Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Pete Biggs

> > It may depend on your IMAP server and particular configuration options 
> > but I wouldn't count on Evolution performing better than Thunderbird.
> > 
> > The last time I used Evolution was on Fedora 27 (so it was a recent 
> > build) on a test computer with a nice old 5,200 RPM hard drive. I asked 
> > it to load a folder of 12,000 messages and it was SO SLOW I had to abort 
> > and reran it with libeatmydata because Evolution was sending a 
> > continuous stream of fsync calls for sqlite databases.
> 
> I assume that by "load a folder" you're referring to indexing a folder
> of previously unseen messages. This is an operation you will only
> rarely perform in real life, so I'm not sure how relevant the test is.
> I have several IMAP folders that are much larger than this (e.g. the
> Evolution list of over 17,000 messages or the Fedora Users list of over
> 40,000) and notice no performance problem at all. I'm also on Fedora 27
> and my /home is on a conventional 7200rpm drive.
> 
Yeah, there are problems with Evolution, but I've never really classed
"performance" as being one of them.

P.
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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:04 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> On 12/9/2017 11:49 AM, da...@thekramers.net wrote:
> > I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons.
> 
> It may depend on your IMAP server and particular configuration options 
> but I wouldn't count on Evolution performing better than Thunderbird.
> 
> The last time I used Evolution was on Fedora 27 (so it was a recent 
> build) on a test computer with a nice old 5,200 RPM hard drive. I asked 
> it to load a folder of 12,000 messages and it was SO SLOW I had to abort 
> and reran it with libeatmydata because Evolution was sending a 
> continuous stream of fsync calls for sqlite databases.

I assume that by "load a folder" you're referring to indexing a folder
of previously unseen messages. This is an operation you will only
rarely perform in real life, so I'm not sure how relevant the test is.
I have several IMAP folders that are much larger than this (e.g. the
Evolution list of over 17,000 messages or the Fedora Users list of over
40,000) and notice no performance problem at all. I'm also on Fedora 27
and my /home is on a conventional 7200rpm drive.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:49 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote:
> I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons.  I'm 
> involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for those 
> groups together, including the ones I send.  One of the features I'm 
> looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email I am 
> sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that lets me 
> do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose via pulldown 
> to save the sent email to the current folder, or any other folder.
> 
> I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to 
> want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're 
> involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent 
> no matter what the mail is about?  Doesn't that make it hard to find 
> conversations later?
> 
> Is there a way to do this in Evolution?

Edit->Preferences->->Defaults->Save replies in the folder of the 
message being replied to

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:04 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> If you have a SSD it will be fine.

I had no issues with Evo 3.24 on Fedora 26 on a 7200rpm HDD and IMAP
mail folders (sync'ed for offline usage) having >50 messages. YMMV.

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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Zan Lynx

On 12/9/2017 11:49 AM, da...@thekramers.net wrote:

I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons.


It may depend on your IMAP server and particular configuration options 
but I wouldn't count on Evolution performing better than Thunderbird.


The last time I used Evolution was on Fedora 27 (so it was a recent 
build) on a test computer with a nice old 5,200 RPM hard drive. I asked 
it to load a folder of 12,000 messages and it was SO SLOW I had to abort 
and reran it with libeatmydata because Evolution was sending a 
continuous stream of fsync calls for sqlite databases.


It could PROBABLY wait until it had read the whole folder of mail before 
syncing. Really.


If you have a SSD it will be fine.
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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Ángel
On 2017-12-09 at 13:49 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote:
> I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to 
> want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're 
> involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent 
> no matter what the mail is about?  Doesn't that make it hard to find 
> conversations later?
> 
> Is there a way to do this in Evolution?

I do like to keep my own replies filled in the same folder as the rest
of the thread. I perform this by setting the Inbox as the Sent folder
(Edit → Preferences → Account → Defaults), and later move to the proper
folder using a manually-triggered filter.

Note however that this has the side-effect of making the Reply button to
work as Reply All on the inbox (as the inbox is at the same time the
Sent folder, and the Reply option is made to work this way there since
usually you don't want to reply to yourself).
It's not a big issue when you are aware of it, but it was hard to me to
find out what was happening.

Best regards

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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 20:32:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>Unless I shouldn't miss something

A nice double negative mistake, isn't it? :D

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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 13:49:41 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote:
>I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons.
>I'm involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for
>those groups together, including the ones I send.  One of the features
>I'm looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email
>I am sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that
>lets me do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose
>via pulldown to save the sent email to the current folder, or any
>other folder.
>
>I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people
>to want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're 
>involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to
>Sent no matter what the mail is about?  Doesn't that make it hard to
>find conversations later?
>
>Is there a way to do this in Evolution?

Evolution does provide incoming and outgoing filters, let alone

  Edit > Preferences > Composer Preferences > Send account

while I prefer Claws over Evolution, I'm missing several features for
Claws, that actually are provided by Evolution, e.g. something banal as
an outgoing filter.

Usually there a workarounds, for easy to use features provided by other
MUAs, what ever else MUA you are using.

Unless I shouldn't miss something, the outgoing filter provided by
Evolution, should do the job you are asking for.

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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Tibor Attila Anca
Hello,
Am Samstag, den 09.12.2017, 13:49 -0500 schrieb da...@thekramers.net:
> 
> Is there a way to do this in Evolution?

Did you try a filter for outgoing mails?

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Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:49 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote:
> I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons.  I'm 
> involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for those 
> groups together, including the ones I send.  One of the features I'm 
> looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email I am 
> sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that lets me 
> do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose via pulldown 
> to save the sent email to the current folder, or any other folder.
> 
> I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to 
> want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're 
> involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent 
> no matter what the mail is about?  Doesn't that make it hard to find 
> conversations later?
> 
> Is there a way to do this in Evolution?

I do not think so.

You could use search folders to see complete threads:
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-search-folders.html
You could set up (static) filters to move messages to certain folders:
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters.html
You could change which default folder to save sent messages in:
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-default-folder-locations.html

andre
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[Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder

2017-12-09 Thread da...@thekramers.net
I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons.  I'm 
involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for those 
groups together, including the ones I send.  One of the features I'm 
looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email I am 
sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that lets me 
do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose via pulldown 
to save the sent email to the current folder, or any other folder.

I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to 
want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're 
involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent 
no matter what the mail is about?  Doesn't that make it hard to find 
conversations later?

Is there a way to do this in Evolution?

Thanks.

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