Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 08:18 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> And yes, "status" is more than just Read/Unread.  There's no "Sort by
> Read/Unread".  (If you think there should be then file an enhancement
> bug.)

I just use the drop-down menu to select Unread. In fact I have it
permanently set that way on all my folders unless I want to search for
some old message or see a complete thread.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 22:26 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:
> Not quite a perfect guess I'm afraid. It has improved things 
> considerably

Hi,
okay, I understand this as the Group By Thread had been set and you did
unset it.

> but those that I've replied to are still further down the list. I have
> the ones that are unread and not replied to, then the rest 
> had replies.

Right, as had been said, the Status is more than just read/unread. I
still believe you get what you want now, which means, unread mails are
together and they are at the top.

Or, do you mean that the messages, which are unread & replied to at the
same time, are mixed in the message list between other messages? It's
possible to prioritize the unread flag over the other flags in the
Status column for the sorting. If that's it and if you are willing and
able to file a feature request at [1], I'd appreciate it. That way
there will be a history behind the change.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new

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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Kiwi Rider via evolution-list

Good evening,

Firstly, my thanks for your work on this project.

On 20/01/21 10:14 pm, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 12:45 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:

that still leaves many messages scattered throughout the
listing.

Hi,
by any chance, is View->Group By Threads checked? The screenshots of
Thunderbird you posted in another message in this thread suggest you do
not use it there, thus if it's enabled in Evolution you might want to
disable it too.

Just a wild guess.



Not quite a perfect guess I'm afraid. It has improved things 
considerably but those that I've replied to are still further down the 
list. I have the ones that are unread and not replied to, then the rest 
of the messages that haven't had replies, then the messages that have 
had replies.


I blame being stuck in a Windows shop where the best I could use was 
Thunderbird. If I'd been allowed Linux and Evolution life would've been 
a hell of a lot easier, and I'd have developed more sane workflows :)


Thanks again.

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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 12:45 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:
> that still leaves many messages scattered throughout the 
> listing.

Hi,
by any chance, is View->Group By Threads checked? The screenshots of
Thunderbird you posted in another message in this thread suggest you do
not use it there, thus if it's enabled in Evolution you might want to
disable it too.

Just a wild guess.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 21:30 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:
>  I don't have a "read status" column, nor is it in the list. I have
> status

"Status" is the one I meant, sorry.

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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Kiwi Rider via evolution-list
I don't have a "read status" column, nor is it in the list. I have 
status, flagged, attachments, received date, from, subject, and date. If 
I bring up "add column" I get the options of to, size, flag status, 
follow up flag, due by, location, sender, recipients, messages, messages 
to, labels, subject - trimmed, UID, sender mail and recipients mail.


The one you're suggesting is the one I desperately want! :)

As previous, version is "*3.36.4-0ubuntu1*" - is this perhaps something 
that version lacks for some reason?


Thanks very much for your time!

On 20/01/21 9:08 pm, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:

On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 12:43 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:

With Thunderbird, when I set up a new mail folder (whether the inbox
of
a new account or some other folder). I first click the Date header to
sort by date, then I click the "sort by read" column

Click the "Read status" column header to sort by [un]read status. Then
Ctrl-click the date column header to apply as secondary sort criterion.

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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 12:43 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:
> Installation is default as of this morning (I'd not installed it on this 
> machine before today).
> 
> With Thunderbird, when I set up a new mail folder (whether the inbox of 
> a new account or some other folder). I first click the Date header to 
> sort by date, then I click the "sort by read" column
> 

Right click on the header bar of the message list, then Customise View
-> Sort.  You then can choose 4 levels of sorting.  

And yes, "status" is more than just Read/Unread.  There's no "Sort by
Read/Unread".  (If you think there should be then file an enhancement
bug.)

Once you have a folder how you want it to look, then Save the view
(View -> Current View -> Save Custom View ... and give it a name). It
will become the default (so you never have to even click on headers
when you create a new folder) and if you need to switch a folder to how
you like it, then just View -> Current View and click on the name
you've given the view. 

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-20 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 12:43 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:
> With Thunderbird, when I set up a new mail folder (whether the inbox
> of
> a new account or some other folder). I first click the Date header to
> sort by date, then I click the "sort by read" column

Click the "Read status" column header to sort by [un]read status. Then
Ctrl-click the date column header to apply as secondary sort criterion.

andre
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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-19 Thread Kiwi Rider via evolution-list
Thanks, but that still leaves many messages scattered throughout the 
listing. I think replying to a message also alters the "status", hence 
it's not just read/unread but read, unread, replied-to and perhaps 
something(s) else.


On 20/01/21 9:44 am, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:

On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 09:29 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:

  As per previous, I'm still hoping to be able to simply sort my
messages by whether or not an email is flagged as 'read'.

Click on the header of the (by default) first column in the list.

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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-19 Thread Kiwi Rider via evolution-list
Installation is default as of this morning (I'd not installed it on this 
machine before today).


With Thunderbird, when I set up a new mail folder (whether the inbox of 
a new account or some other folder). I first click the Date header to 
sort by date, then I click the "sort by read" column


I've put a couple of screenshots at https://postimg.cc/gallery/KYshgKM 
to show what I am referring to.


With the workflow I've developed over the last however many years I've 
been using Thunderbird (at least 9), this is quite useful to me. I don't 
have the ability to remember to do things like changing views, which is 
why I am stuck on TB since it lets me see all my unread stuff at the top 
of the list, then everything else in date order below that. At a single 
glance as I walk past the screen I can see if there is anything to take 
care of that I may have forgotten, rather than having to remember to 
change screens for whatever else may be there.


On 20/01/21 10:21 am, Zan Lynx wrote:

On 1/19/21 1:29 PM, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:


As per previous, I'm still hoping to be able to simply sort my 
messages by whether or not an email is flagged as 'read'.


You need to sort by _something_. Probably Received would work best.

Then there is a dropdown near the top of the message list where you 
can choose to view All, only Unread, Last 7 Days, and other options. 
The Unread filter is what you want I think.


That is part of the Search Bar I believe, so if you moved or made that 
hidden somehow you'll have to find it again.




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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-19 Thread Zan Lynx

On 1/19/21 1:29 PM, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:


As per previous, I'm still hoping to be able to simply sort my messages 
by whether or not an email is flagged as 'read'.


You need to sort by _something_. Probably Received would work best.

Then there is a dropdown near the top of the message list where you can 
choose to view All, only Unread, Last 7 Days, and other options. The 
Unread filter is what you want I think.


That is part of the Search Bar I believe, so if you moved or made that 
hidden somehow you'll have to find it again.


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Re: [Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-19 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 09:29 +1300, Kiwi Rider via evolution-list wrote:
>  As per previous, I'm still hoping to be able to simply sort my
> messages by whether or not an email is flagged as 'read'.

Click on the header of the (by default) first column in the list.

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[Evolution] Sorting by "unread"

2021-01-19 Thread Kiwi Rider via evolution-list

Good morning folks,

As per previous, I'm still hoping to be able to simply sort my messages 
by whether or not an email is flagged as 'read'.


Not by date - some of my contacts get screwed up dates in their system.
Not by whether or not I've replied to a message - some need a followup 
reply and I'd rather keep them handy
Not by whether or not I've seen the message - I may be on the road and 
take a quick look, realise I can't deal with it today, and change it 
back to 'unread' for tomorrow
Not by any of the other sorting options - I just want to bring the 
'unread' messages to the top of the list - ALL of the unread messages.



I just tried with version *3.36.4-0ubuntu1*  on *Mint 20* (64 bit) using 
*Mate 1.24.0* for the desktop


I'd prefer to use Evolution over Thunderbird, and hopefully could work 
with most of the other differences (though I'd need to use TB a half a 
dozen or so times each week for it's "mail merge" plugin at least until 
Ev gets that as a plugin/native :) ), but this one is a definite 
deal-breaker for me :(


Thanks for your time,
KR
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