Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
If this is really not configurable, you're using a buggy and wrong MTA. I have noticed this on my BB as well and I haven't looked into the configuration to see but I make it a personal note not to reply to lists on my BB for this reason. I use SnapperMail on a Palm OS device, it seems to do quoting quite well and lets me edit the entirety of a reply. The only problem I have with it is that it occasionally does some really funky stuff with line wraps / long lines. Sadly it is only available for Palm OS [AFAIK] which means I won't be using it for too much longer. But for anyone with a Palm OS device I recommend it. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:23 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: The way most emailers default in the reply edit mode is to position your cursor at the top of the original. The reason this is done is apparently, unaccountably, non-obvious to millions of the NetNewbies of the past several years. The reason it positions that way is to encourage the user to drill down through the original post, While all this is true, I agree completely, it is utterly pointless to point it out. The vast vast majority of people DO NOT CARE about netiquette (or the convenience of subsequent readers). Thus you are wasting bandwidth and every other readers time. Hashing these things with people WHO DO NOT CARE is pointless. I disagree. I make it a point of noting (politely!) when people top-post. If no-one ever mentions it, how is the clueless newbie going to learn? OTOH a long diatribe in answer to every transgression gets old very fast. The compromise I've settled on is to keep the complaint to one line and only do it if I was going to reply anyway. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! Chuck... bg wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 07:15, Dave Jewett wrote: I apologize for the top post. Most of the world top posts; bg: Which simply demonstrates that the world is mostly made up of the clueless and care-less. dave: and I could not immediate find the section of my email client to reconfigure it for this specific email. Reconfigure it??? What email client are you using that would require reconfiguring in order to arrange original and reply in the correct chronological sequence? I have used five or six different email clients over the past nearly thirty years, and I cannot recall a single one that would require reconfiguration. The way most emailers default in the reply edit mode is to position your cursor at the top of the original. The reason this is done is apparently, unaccountably, non-obvious to millions of the NetNewbies of the past several years. The reason it positions that way is to encourage the user to drill down through the original post, snipping out those portions not directly relevant to their intended reply, and not so incidentally reinforcing their knowledge of what the original was saying; then having reached the bottom of the original, and with any luck at all having reduced it, if it was a long one, by say 80%, commence their reply. Top posting may be marginally acceptable for a single one-on-one exchange in a business environment; --- Okay - Mario's on Fourth at 12:45! Wanna have lunch tomorrow --- even though it reads illogically in that reverse chronology. Fine. But top-posting is an irritant on any form of e-list or discussion group where there are multi-message threads. Yeah, I know, those religious wars again. But I will not acquiesce to sloppy, hard-to-read practices just because millions of clueless newbies don't know how to work their reply edit function as it was intended, and worse, don't much care either way. Brewster - -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3944 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkrOA6AACgkQvo/pZKjjE/PsIwCfaMlVKhZ6Qu7bodOpk3vp517F tMcAn3b8lOFQ4w7RkY1wTxCrhw0wTJdS =FRX1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! Chuck... yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:28 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! Chuck... yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. And they much be narrow-ruled, none of that silly wide-ruled stuff. I need those extra lines per page. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Reid Thompson wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. evolution's yellow-pad-connector crashes too frequently. That problem is already fixed in evolution 2.33 which hasn't been released, but 2.33 only allows top posting or back posting (writing on the back of the yellow pad). ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. evolution's yellow-pad-connector crashes too frequently. Oh, Oh Tomboy integration! Sweet. I'm not worried, it will never crash for me. For whatever reason [seriously] my systems always seem much more stable than other peoples. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
Hi Charles, On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. On technical mailing-lists, between someone who takes care of quoting correctly and follows the netiquette, and someone who just dumps the entire thread with an added top-post blurb, my choice of who will be the next person I'll help is quickly done. Xav ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
