Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 16:22 -0700, bg wrote: > I know a lot of people who won't even open HTML-encoded > emails, and I can't tell them they're wrong. Hi BG, That would kind of be hard to do in modern day time. EVERYTHING comes in the HTML formatting now I think. My bank emails, Youtube, etc etc Unless you mean, that they wont open emails from personal friends or family that is formatted in HTML? Thank you and take care! -- Chris Main Email address: ch...@cwm030.com (Please send all off topic messages to my main address..Thanks) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
On Mon, 2018-08-06 at 11:28 -0400, andré via evolution-list wrote: > Le 2018-08-06 à 05:30, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > > On Mon, 2018-08-06 at 08:51 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 16:22 -0700, bg wrote: > > > > Why format emails in HTML in the first place? > > > > > > There have been enough 'HTML vs plain text' discussions in the last > > > decades and I don't expect surprising new arguments by having yet > > > another 'HTML vs plain text' discussion. > > > There are some pros and some cons and we all know that. > > > > > > Proposing to stick to the actual bug instead. > > > > > > andre > > > > Agreed, but I'd just note that plaintext is preferred *on this list* > > (which is a separate topic of course). > > > > poc > > > > Also, plain text is preferred on *most lists* of this type (if not all), > which accept response by users. Sure. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
Le 2018-08-06 à 05:30, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : On Mon, 2018-08-06 at 08:51 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 16:22 -0700, bg wrote: Why format emails in HTML in the first place? There have been enough 'HTML vs plain text' discussions in the last decades and I don't expect surprising new arguments by having yet another 'HTML vs plain text' discussion. There are some pros and some cons and we all know that. Proposing to stick to the actual bug instead. andre Agreed, but I'd just note that plaintext is preferred *on this list* (which is a separate topic of course). poc Also, plain text is preferred on *most lists* of this type (if not all), which accept response by users. -- another André ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
On Mon, 2018-08-06 at 08:51 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 16:22 -0700, bg wrote: > > Why format emails in HTML in the first place? > > There have been enough 'HTML vs plain text' discussions in the last > decades and I don't expect surprising new arguments by having yet > another 'HTML vs plain text' discussion. > There are some pros and some cons and we all know that. > > Proposing to stick to the actual bug instead. > > andre Agreed, but I'd just note that plaintext is preferred *on this list* (which is a separate topic of course). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 16:22 -0700, bg wrote: > Why format emails in HTML in the first place? There have been enough 'HTML vs plain text' discussions in the last decades and I don't expect surprising new arguments by having yet another 'HTML vs plain text' discussion. There are some pros and some cons and we all know that. Proposing to stick to the actual bug instead. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
On Sun, 2018-08-05 at 17:32 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > I got no joy about this so I opened an issue for it: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/86 > > A fix would be lovely; this is actually causing me some pain. Even > just a verification that others see it (it's pretty simple to > reproduce) would be nice. > bg: Why format emails in HTML in the first place? A great many people view HTML-coded emails, and not unreasonably IMO, as poor security, since AFAIK they can contain little ride-along malware poison pills buried in their code. I know a lot of people who won't even open HTML-encoded emails, and I can't tell them they're wrong. Maybe my information in this regard is out of date, in which case I'm sure someone will set me straight:-) Brewster -- ** "...notability, which can lead to fame, is something every academic heaps scorn on while secretly craving. The only thing more popular in faculty lounges than cheap red wine is vicious sniping at members of the guild who command an audience outside the academy." Milo Yiannopoulos *** W. Brewster Gillettb...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA *** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. *** ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
I got no joy about this so I opened an issue for it: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/86 A fix would be lovely; this is actually causing me some pain. Even just a verification that others see it (it's pretty simple to reproduce) would be nice. Cheers! On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 18:10 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Hi all; I recently upgraded my system to Ubuntu 18.04 which provides > Evolution 3.28.1 (from Evolution 3.26). > > I've noticed an annoying issue: quoting of quoted messages is broken > when replying to plain text email in HTML mode. For example if I > receive a plain text email and it includes some quoted text like > this: > > > > here is a quote > > and here is a response > > > and I reply to this message with my composer preference set to HTML > mode, then the composer shows a response where the quoted text is at > the same quoting level as the normal text. That is, instead of: > > > > > here is a quote > > > > and here is a response > > > > I just get (in HTML of course): > > > > here is a quote > > > > and here is a response > > > > And this is true no matter how many levels of quoting there are in > theoriginal email, everything is reduced to a single > level. Converting this message to plain text doesn't fix it. > > If I'm replying to an HTML email, quoting works properly. > > If I change my composer preference to disable HTML by default, then > it all works properly: the plain text reply has all the correct > quoting. If I convert the message to HTML it keeps the correct > quoting. > > Has anyone else run into this with Evolution 3.28? > > Cheers! ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
Anyone have any ideas about this? I've now had to upgrade my work system and it's much more of a problem there, because I need to send most of my work email in HTML mode, and it doesn't work as below... FYI, packages: ii evolution 3.28.1-2 ii gir1.2-webkit-3.0:amd64 2.4.11-3ubuntu3 ii gir1.2-webkit2-4.0:amd642.20.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 ii libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.20.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 ii libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37-gtk2:amd64 2.20.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 ii libwebkitgtk-3.0-0:amd642.4.11-3ubuntu3 ii libwebkitgtk-3.0-dev:amd64 2.4.11-3ubuntu3 On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 18:10 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Hi all; I recently upgraded my system to Ubuntu 18.04 which provides > Evolution 3.28.1 (from Evolution 3.26). > > I've noticed an annoying issue: quoting of quoted messages is broken > when replying to plain text email in HTML mode. For example if I > receive a plain text email and it includes some quoted text like > this: > > > > here is a quote > > and here is a response > > > and I reply to this message with my composer preference set to HTML > mode, then the composer shows a response where the quoted text is at > the same quoting level as the normal text. That is, instead of: > > > > > here is a quote > > > > and here is a response > > > > I just get (in HTML of course): > > > > here is a quote > > > > and here is a response > > > > And this is true no matter how many levels of quoting there are in > the > original email, everything is reduced to a single level. Converting > this message to plain text doesn't fix it. > > If I'm replying to an HTML email, quoting works properly. > > If I change my composer preference to disable HTML by default, then > it > all works properly: the plain text reply has all the correct > quoting. > If I convert the message to HTML it keeps the correct quoting. > > Has anyone else run into this with Evolution 3.28? > > Cheers! > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
On Mon, 2018-06-18 at 15:17 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 18:10 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > Has anyone else run into this with Evolution 3.28? > > Which exact WebKitGTK version is used? I'm using these versions: $ dpkg -l \*webkit\* | grep ^i ii gir1.2-webkit2-4.0:amd64 2.20.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64 ii libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64 2.20.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.28.1: Incorrect quoting of text emails
On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 18:10 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Has anyone else run into this with Evolution 3.28? Which exact WebKitGTK version is used? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list