Re: [Evolution] Improvements since version 3.18

2017-06-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Sat, 2017-06-10 at 00:31 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> See all the .news files in the "3.19" to "3.24" folders in
> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution

Hi,
do not forget of evolution-data-server, because evolution it tight to
it. It's basically the main issue with dependencies, because other
system applications also link to the evoltuion-data-server, thus they
require rebuild or update as well. Otherwise dependencies are not that
big issue, because they didn't change significantly for years (it's a
dependency issue from the other side/up-side-down). Users can compile
from source even to a different prefix [1], though it can be tricky for
daily use due to D-Bus services.

Running something like:

   $ git log --pretty=format:"[%h] %s (%an)" EVOLUTION_3_18_5_2.. | wc -l

in the gnome-3-24 checkout gives me 827 general commits, 407 commits in
translations and 48 commits in the help (user documentation). Similarly
in evolution-data-server 378 general commits and 194 commits in
translations. The numbers are raw commits, not necessarily features or
bug fixes.

The web interface, not FTP, for the files can be found here:
https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution-data-server/
https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution/

As Andre suggested, the NEWS files are the place to look for divided
changes. You can look on all of them at once here:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-3-24
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-3-24

Bye,
Milan

[1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building
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Re: [Evolution] Keyboard shortcut (accelerator) to get to the Search bar in Evolution

2017-06-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Sat, 2017-06-10 at 00:37 +0200, Tiri wrote:
> I simply cannot find what keyboard
> shortcut (accelerator in linux terminology) gets me to the Search bar
> in Evolution (it's Ctrl-E in Outlook).

Hi,
when you hold the Alt key on the keyboard for a few seconds (it's
like 2 for me), then some of the letters get underlined, both in the
top menu bar, then also in the search bar. The English translation
shows me the 'w' in the "Show:", 'c' in the "Search:" and 'n' in the
"in" words on the search bar, thus pressing Alt+W focuses the Show
combo, Alt+C the Search entry and so on. Your translation can have
chosen different letters as accelerators.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Improvements since version 3.18

2017-06-12 Thread David Burleigh
On Mon, 2017-06-12 at 09:39 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-06-10 at 00:31 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > 
> > See all the .news files in the "3.19" to "3.24" folders in
> > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution
>   Hi,
> do not forget of evolution-data-server, because evolution it tight to
> it. It's basically the main issue with dependencies, because other
> system applications also link to the evoltuion-data-server, thus they
> require rebuild or update as well. Otherwise dependencies are not
> that
> big issue, because they didn't change significantly for years (it's a
> dependency issue from the other side/up-side-down). Users can compile
> from source even to a different prefix [1], though it can be tricky
> for
> daily use due to D-Bus services.
> 
> Running something like:
> 
>    $ git log --pretty=format:"[%h] %s (%an)" EVOLUTION_3_18_5_2.. |
> wc -l
> 
> in the gnome-3-24 checkout gives me 827 general commits, 407 commits
> in
> translations and 48 commits in the help (user documentation).
> Similarly
> in evolution-data-server 378 general commits and 194 commits in
> translations. The numbers are raw commits, not necessarily features
> or
> bug fixes.
> 
> The web interface, not FTP, for the files can be found here:
> https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution-data-server/
> https://download.gnome.org/sources/evolution/
> 
> As Andre suggested, the NEWS files are the place to look for divided
> changes. You can look on all of them at once here:
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-
> 3-24
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-3-24
> 
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
> [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Building
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Thank you, it was nice to browse through the improvements, but they see
m to be out of reach until Linux Mint moves on to a Ubuntu base later
than 16.04, unless I abandon Linux Mint and install Debian Stretch
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Re: [Evolution] Improvements since version 3.18

2017-06-12 Thread Martin Dietze
On 12 June 2017 at 09:39, Milan Crha  wrote:
> Otherwise dependencies are not that
> big issue, because they didn't change significantly for years (it's a
> dependency issue from the other side/up-side-down).

So far this has always been an issue for me. I am using Oracle Linux,
which is a fork of RHEL.
The evolution version shipped with my distribution had some serious
gtk-related issues, so I tried to backport the latest-possible
evolution version.
I ended up with evolution 3.20, which is still fairly old.

Here's some examples of related package versions on my box:

gnome-shell-3.14.4-53.el7.x86_64
webkitgtk3-devel-2.4.9-6.el7.x86_64
gtk3-devel-3.14.13-20.el7_3.1.x86_64

I would not mind backporting some referenced libraries, build tools
etc., but dependencies of the newer evolution version went deep into
gnome, so that I would have had to use entirely my own gnome
installation which I did not want (since this usually creates lots of
issues and conflicts with other packages).

I usually use the .src.rpm files for Fedora that I get on rpmfind.net
as a basis, and I may have to adapt this and that. Maybe the
dependencies listed there are not what is actually really needed?

I would really like to have an up-to-date evolution version, but so
far this has been pretty much out of reach for me.

Cheers,

Martin

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Deutsch-Ukrainischer Kulturverein e.V.
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Re: [Evolution] Improvements since version 3.18

2017-06-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2017-06-12 at 11:10 +0200, Martin Dietze wrote:
> I usually use the .src.rpm files for Fedora that I get on rpmfind.net
> as a basis, and I may have to adapt this and that. Maybe the
> dependencies listed there are not what is actually really needed?

Hi,
that 'there' means rpmfind or the .spec file? The .spec file is
correct.

I forgot of one important change when writing the previous post,
the switch to WebKit2 (from WebKit1 usage), which is the reason why you
stopped on 3.20.x, because WebKit2 (Fedora has it packages as
webkitgtk4) is very new (the other main dependencies like glib2 and
gtk3 are not for that latest code). My fault, I'm sorry for confusion.
Bye,
Milan
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[Evolution] can't change any preference setting

2017-06-12 Thread NT KC
Hi, I use Evolution 3.18.5.2 on a Debian jessy box.

Adding accounts etc. is no problem, but nearly all preference settings (eg 
preference -> composer preference -> format essages in html) can't be set.

Anyone any idea how to fix this ?


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Re: [Evolution] can't change any preference setting

2017-06-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 18:47 +, NT KC wrote:
> Hi, I use Evolution 3.18.5.2 on a Debian jessy box.
> Adding accounts etc. is no problem, but nearly all preference
> settings (eg preference -> composer preference -> format essages in
> html) can't be set.
> Anyone any idea how to fix this ?

Please describe what "can't be set" means. Also, is 3.18 the default
version shipped by Debian? Have you checked the Debian bug tracker?

Thanks,
andre
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Re: [Evolution] can't change any preference setting

2017-06-12 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 18:47 +, NT KC wrote:
> Hi, I use Evolution 3.18.5.2 on a Debian jessy box.
> Adding accounts etc. is no problem, but nearly all preference
> settings (eg preference -> composer preference -> format essages in
> html) can't be set.
> Anyone any idea how to fix this ?
> 

It sounds like a permissions problem. 

Run Evolution from the command line and see if there are any error
messages when you try and change those settings.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] can't change any preference setting

2017-06-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 18:47:10 +, NT KC wrote:
>Anyone any idea how to fix this ?

sudo rm /run/user/1???/dconf/user

Permissions of the temporary dconf file could change from user to root
permissions after e.g. running a GTK based Gnome alike editor with root
privileges.


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