Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?

2022-09-14 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
-- 
On Tue, 2022-09-13 at 17:23 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> You are absolutely free to use whatever fits your needs better, or to
> change the code as you like. It's all your freedom of choice.

Actually, I'm not, since I have no programming skills at all( i haven't
done it since college -2009). I was hoping it was due to a theme or
something I could change to be more usable. I guess not, I'm sure the
changes were made to be more "mobile device friendly". Sad days,I guess
I'll figure out a way to fix it or learn to like Thunderbird (doubtful)
:(  
Tim McConnell 
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution or dbus issue ?

2022-09-14 Thread Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 02:33 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> On 2022-09-13 at 16:57 -0500, Anonymous Japhering wrote:
> > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
> > Linux Mint 20.3 Una
> > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
> > Default browser:  Brave
> > 
> > For the last couple of weeks, I have been seeing a new behavior
> > while
> > using Evolution.  Previous when I open
> > a link in Evolution, it would open in the default browser as a new
> > tab (browser is always open).
> > 
> > However, now I'm seeing  the link open is the already running
> > instance of Brave as well as a completely new
> > instance of Brave being started.
> > 
> > Anyone else seeing this?    Is this a new quirk in Evolution or a
> > bug
> > in dbus?
> > 
> > Thanks
> 
> When you open a new link, the program (evolution here) will -af ter
> sme
> indirections- launch a new copy of your browser (here, brave), which
> would detect it is already running and open the link on a new
> window/tab in the exiting window.
> 
> The flatpak sandbox may be confusing brave.

It is more like Flatpak is confused.   As both a new Brave window
opens, but the link is opened
in the existing Brave.  It is like  Flatpak  see a link click .. starts
a new instance of the default
browser before checking to see if one is already running and then
checks, detects the original
instance of the browser and had hands the link to the original
instance.

> 
> Your problem seems quite similar to 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-August/msg00107.html
> but in the opposite way.

I don't see it .   This is about Chrome not opening a mailto: link when
the default mail client is
set to Evolution

> Are you also using wayland?

No, I am not.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution or dbus issue ?

2022-09-14 Thread Tim McConnell via evolution-list
   A. On Tue, 2022-09-13 at 16:57 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via
  evolution-list wrote:
> Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
> Linux Mint 20.3 Una
> Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
> Default browser:  Brave
> 
> For the last couple of weeks, I have been seeing a new behavior while
> using Evolution.  Previous when I open
> a link in Evolution, it would open in the default browser as a new
> tab (browser is always open).
> 
> However, now I'm seeing  the link open is the already running
> instance of Brave as well as a completely new
> instance of Brave being started.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this?    Is this a new quirk in Evolution or a bug
> in dbus?
> 
> Thanks
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Yes and I'm on 3.45.3-2 and Kernel 5.19. It happens with Firefox and
Chromium as well. But it's intermittent. Debian Bookworm (btw)
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Re: [Evolution] Is there a way to set the interface back to what it was?

2022-09-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 01:41 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> I am looking at gedit as a representative application.

Professional grade iPadOS apps for music and graphic are using old
faithful menus. To get things done menus are even not dropped on
portable devices. Menus are dropped for unprofessional software only, it
has nothing to do with phones and tablets vs desktop computers.

Btw. gtk3-nocsd seems still to work, see attachment. FWIW I prefer Xed
over Pluma.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q gtk3-nocsd-git gedit pluma xed
gtk3-nocsd-git r72.4e1c45d-1
gedit 42.2-1
pluma 1.26.0-2
xed 3.2.7-1
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pactree --reverse gtk4
gtk4
├─ghex
├─gtksourceview5
│ ├─gnome-calculator
│ └─zrythm
├─libadwaita
│ ├─gnome-calculator
│ └─zrythm
└─zrythm
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pactree --reverse gtk3 | grep -egedit -epluma
-exed
│ ├─gedit
│ └─xed
│ ├─gigedit-svn
│ ├─gedit
│ ├─pluma
│ └─xed
│ │ └─xed
│ ├─gedit
│ ├─pluma
│ └─xed
│ └─pluma
│   └─pluma
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[Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

2022-09-14 Thread Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list
Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
Linux Mint 20.3 Una
Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP

Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen.  

I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the same
email message or different 
email messages.

However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen until
I reboot my laptop, which is
the pain point.

Anyone else seeing similar behavior ?

Thanks.
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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

2022-09-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
> Linux Mint 20.3 Una
> Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
> 
> Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen.  
> 
> I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the
> same
> email message or different 
> email messages.
> 
> However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen
> until
> I reboot my laptop, which is
> the pain point.
> 
> Anyone else seeing similar behavior ?

Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

2022-09-14 Thread Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 22:49 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Evolution 3.44.4 (by Flathub.org) 
> > Linux Mint 20.3 Una
> > Linux 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
> > 
> > Forth time in the last week that my preview pane has frozen.  
> > 
> > I haven't been watching closely enough to see if it is always the
> > same
> > email message or different 
> > email messages.
> > 
> > However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen
> > until
> > I reboot my laptop, which is
> > the pain point.
> > 
> > Anyone else seeing similar behavior ?
> 
> Never seen that. Perhaps mention your desktop and video driver.

Mate 1.26.0
Mesa Drivers 21.2.6
X11-server  7.7+8
Xorg   7.7+19Ubuntu14


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution or dbus issue ?

2022-09-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-09-13 at 16:57 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> However, now I'm seeing  the link open is the already running
> instance of Brave as well as a completely new
> instance of Brave being started.

Hi,
there's not involved the D-Bus in this, well, with Flatpak there can,
but not that much, only to pass the request from the sandbox to the
host system through a portal.

You should get quite similar results when you run from a terminal:

   $ xdg-open https://www.gnome.org/

You can run it from the Flatpak sandbox too, it's in two steps:

   $ flatpak run --command=sh org.gnome.Evolution
   $ xdg-open https://www.gnome.org/

Evolution 3.44.4 had been released on 2022-08-05, almost 6 weeks ago,
and it had been updated on the Flathub.org site shortly afterwards. I
doubt anything will change when you downgrade to 3.44.3, because there
were only minimal changes in the 3.44.4, none related to the link
opening. It's more likely some of the background libraries changed, my
guess would be the glib library, which is used for these things in the
code. Even the portal could change on the host machine (check updates
of the xdg-desktop-portal* packages). Browsers have settings to open
links in a new tab or in a new window, though in your case it's weird
to have it open in both.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

2022-09-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:26 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> However,  it is a permanent failure.  The pane will remain frozen
> until I reboot my laptop, which is the pain point.

Hi,
is the whole machine frozen, or only the Evolution, or only the preview
panel itself? Is there a higher CPU usage when it freezes? Maybe it's
doing something in the background, waiting long enough may recover it.

Try to run evolution from a terminal:

   $ flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

and let it freeze, maybe it'll print something useful there. If you can
move between messages, then you might be able to close Evolution as
well. When you click the close button multiple times, you'll be asked
whether you want to close the app immediately or keep waiting.

It should work fine, when you run Evolution again, no? If the whole app
is frozen, then do:

   $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution

instead of the whole machine restart.

Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] Forwarding a mail to action fraud that is potentially fraudulent

2022-09-14 Thread Steve T via evolution-list
>From time to time I get EMails that appear to be scams or phishing mails. In 
>the UK the police have set up 'Action
Fraud' - a group that looks into EMail/text scams. The problem I have is that 
when I forward the dubious mail to action
fraud's Email address, the mail fails to send and gets an error message telling 
me that it is potentially fraudulent!

Is that message from Evolution or from my mail provider, and if from Evolution, 
can I disable the scam check for an
individual mail?

Thanks,
Steve T
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Re: [Evolution] Forwarding a mail to action fraud that is potentially fraudulent

2022-09-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2022-09-15 at 06:59 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> Is that message from Evolution or from my mail provider, and if from
> Evolution, can I disable the scam check for an individual mail?

Hi,
I'd need to see an exact message and when it shows up to know for sure,
but I guess it returns your SMTP server. You can see what's going on
under the hood when you run Evolution as:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=smtp evolution

and try to re-send the message. I guess you use SMTP, you did not say
that.

I do not know whether acceptable by the recipients, but maybe if you
save the message to an mbox file (right-click it, it's in the context
menu), then compress it with a .zip and that compressed file will be
sent to the involved parties, then maybe it'll avoid the error.

In any case, Evolution itself doesn't do any spam filtering when
sending messages, it scans for spam on received messages only.
Bye,
Milan

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