RE: MEC

2002-09-27 Thread Don Couch

Unfortunately, I can not attend - next year, hopefully!

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I too will be there.  Any words of advice for first time attendees?  I
plan on bringing clean underwear and trying my first fish taco.  In
addition to that, what else can I expect?

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RE: MEC

2002-09-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

Next year should be interesting. This is essentially the last MEC.
According to the latest MEC mailing, Next year they will be combining MEC
and TechEd into one new conference.

-Original Message-
From: Don Couch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:09 AM
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Subject: RE: MEC


Unfortunately, I can not attend - next year, hopefully!

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I too will be there.  Any words of advice for first time attendees?  I plan
on bringing clean underwear and trying my first fish taco.  In addition to
that, what else can I expect?

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RE: Brightmail

2002-09-27 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Yeah, me stupid foreigner :) I mis-read legit vs illegit.

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From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:25 PM
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Huh?

You got your math wrong, Andrey.

Alberto,
Contact me offline if you want more input on nemx.

/Peter
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From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: Brightmail


Hehe that sounds like Hotmail new strategy - reject 99% of mail and chances
are most spam will be killed.

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From: Alberto Faccioli . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Brightmail


NEMX seems to have good tools for spam filtering (and more).  Server based
(with user-specific rules), use RBL, and run on MSX 2K/5.5 and SBS4.5/2K.

http://www.nemx.com/products/index.asp

But I never heard of NEMX on this list other than one satisfied comment in
early September: I'm using it succesfuly. It quarantines about 2000
messages a day of wich 20 are legit messages.

Anybody else out there has any other experience to share?

Alberto


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From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:22 AM
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Subject: RE: Brightmail


CloudMark is also a client app.  Runs ok most of them.

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I'm running a copy of IHateSpam from Sunbelt (www.sunbelt-software.com).
Seems to work well.  This is not a server-based solution, but does most
of the other things you want.  You could add it to a standard image.

David

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We're currently investigating anti-spam products and are particularly
interested in any products that allow the end user the ability to have
some control over what is considered spam and what is not.  Ideally,
we'd like a product that places suspected spam into a separate folder
within the clients' mailboxes where they can then deal with it
themselves.  In addition, we'd like for this to be a completely
server-based solution.  I know some products allow you to append a
phrase to the subject of suspected spam messages so that users can then
set up rules in Outlook to move those messages to a folder, but we'd
prefer to have this happen automatically (without user intervention).
The only product I've seen so far that can do this is Brightmail.  Is
anyone using Brightmail for Exchange?  Are there any other products out
there that would accomplish our goals?  We're running Exchange 2000 SP2
and have about 2000 users.

Thanks,

Abby


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RE: MIME and Exchange

2002-09-27 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Not sure. Some time ago I had an issue where Gordano NT Mail and Exchange 2000 could 
not communicate reliably with each other. We had to dumb down Exchange - US ASCII 
instead of default Western European ISO-8859-1 (default). Provide message body as 
plain text. I guess all these were for traffic from Exchange to NT Mail.

Also I am looking at the settings right now. For the inbound traffic on the Exchange 
server we set the SMTP Virtual Server to  only process 1 message per connection. For 
some reason NT Mail and Exchange did not agree on processing multiple messages per 
connection.

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From: Joe Berthiaume [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 5:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MIME and Exchange


Andrey-

This is an interesting point...i've forwarded it on to the PMDF
guys...the only question I have is, if the encoding were screwed up, why
are only certain files/mail messages getting hung up? 



-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MIME and Exchange

If there is no DATA command, how does Exchange ever know that the data
will be MIME or something else? I think there is something else going on
there like different character sets or 7-bit vs 8-bit encoding.

Also is there any way to force that PRDL system to send messages in
UUENCODE?

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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MIME and Exchange



Here's the story. We have essentially 2 systems...legacy system running
PMDF mail, and the Windows end running Exchange 2000. Users frequently
send messages, with attachments(simple text files) or bodies full of
text(plain...fixed width), from the legacy end, via PMDF 6.11, to the
Exchange Server ( Windows 2000 sp2, exchange sp2) and the messages are
read with a mix of Outlook 2000 - 2002. 

Recently, some of these mails have not been reaching users inbox in
Outlook. PMDF logs show that the message was sent, but no acknowledgment
was received from Exchange, so PMDF marks it as a failure, and backs off
and tries again later. SMTP logs on the Exchange Server show EHLO, MAIL,
RCPT commands but no DATA or QUIT commands as a successful SMTP
conversation would.

Playing around with it some more resulted in some more data...it's
possible to force PMDF to send the attachment as different MIME parts.
If the attachment comes across as the 2nd MIME part it gets delivered on
Exchange with no problem...but if it's included as the 1st MIME part, it
doesn't come through. Note that the message isn't long...it just has a
lot of columns.(224) sometimes with characters and things like tabs, *,
- or ~'s. If we send just a short message, and short attachment, in the
first MIME part, it comes across...thus leading me to believe that
there's some kind of byte limitation in the first MIME part.

PMDF support, and the PMDF admin here thinks it's Exchange...that it's
in violation of some MIME RFC...I don't know. I can grab one of the
files that won't come over and send it to Exchange from Yahoo, Hotmail,
or AOL (yuck) and it comes over without a problem...I know that most
mail services embed the attachments in the 2nd MIME part, but I think
that's because even if you don't include any body text, they stick in
that dumb advertising in the body of the message, thus forcing the
attachment into MIME part #2.

They are telling me to call PSS about this...but I hesitate to do so
because stuff like this inevitably winds up being a PMDF screw up or
misconfiguration (in case you haven't figured it out by now, I hate
PMDF).

Latest version of Trend Scanmail for Exchange 2000 is installed and
running on the Exchange 2000 box. 

Thanks in advance.


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Disappearing appointments

2002-09-27 Thread Gonzalez, Alex

Has anyone ever heard of Calendar appointments just disappearing?  My users are 
complaining that they had a calendar appointment but it some how was deleted.  Also 
one is saying that someone just received an invitation to a meeting from December of 
last year.  Any one heard of this behavior?

Thank you,
 
Alex 

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RE: win2k sp2 smtp server error 5.0.0

2002-09-27 Thread Rob Ellis

Updated - 

I think I might have found the problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q240832

but if I set it to use HELO, I don't get the option for it to use EHLO,
so I would lose the ability to send out as ESMTP??



Rob Ellis 
Network Manager 
Profectus IT 
Tel 023 9224 7960 
Mob 07974 111867


-Original Message-
From: Rob Ellis 
Sent: 26 September 2002 15:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: win2k sp2 smtp server error 5.0.0

Using a Win2K sp2 box in our DMZ running the MS smtp server, as a relay
for our E2K server.  All incoming traffic flows fine, but we are getting
a number of NDRs such as:

The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report
a specific reason.  Check the address and try again.  If it still fails,
contact your system administrator.

mail.profectus.co.uk #5.0.0 smtp;500 Syntax error, command
unrecognized

this is happening for a variety of domain names, including hotmail.com
(which I'm not that worried about, but some of the domains are actually
'proper' domains.)

Could it be that the IP that our server sits on has been blacklisted by
certain ISPs?



Rob Ellis 
Network Manager 
Profectus IT 
Tel 023 9224 7960 
Mob 07974 111867



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Re: Disappearing appointments

2002-09-27 Thread Tony Hlabse

How is the calendar settings. Maybe check the date range.

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Subject: Disappearing appointments


Has anyone ever heard of Calendar appointments just disappearing?  My users
are complaining that they had a calendar appointment but it some how was
deleted.  Also one is saying that someone just received an invitation to a
meeting from December of last year.  Any one heard of this behavior?

Thank you,

Alex

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RE: Disappearing appointments

2002-09-27 Thread Busby, Jacob

 Has anyone ever heard of Calendar appointments just 
 disappearing?  

Yes, but I tended to put it down to user error. 

 My users are complaining that they had a 
 calendar appointment but it some how was deleted.  

It's probably worth checking to see if the meeting creator didn't cancel/recall it. 
I'd start with the meeting creator (or their delegates if their inbasket is shared in 
any way) before I went any further.

 Also one 
 is saying that someone just received an invitation to a 
 meeting from December of last year.  Any one heard of this behavior?

Are you using pure Exchange or do you have any legacy systems on the side? (eg. PROFS 
connector, POP3 server) 

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Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Callan, Chris

Is there a process in the migration is there a tool or anything that clears
up any whitespace, or any errors that the old edb may have?  Am trying to
get some time allotted to run isinteg and eseutil on both of my edb's, but
higher ups seem to think that something along the lines of an isinteg and
eseutil are done by the migration process.

cc

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RE: Disappearing appointments

2002-09-27 Thread Gonzalez, Alex

Well it was an appointment that was from the current day.  It was there
at 8am but gone by 3pm when the appointment was.


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From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Disappearing appointments

How is the calendar settings. Maybe check the date range.

- Original Message -
From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: Disappearing appointments


Has anyone ever heard of Calendar appointments just disappearing?  My
users
are complaining that they had a calendar appointment but it some how was
deleted.  Also one is saying that someone just received an invitation to
a
meeting from December of last year.  Any one heard of this behavior?

Thank you,

Alex

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RE: Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

You have 2000? Create a new information store and move mailboxes to the new store. The 
mailbox move process preserves single instance storage. Moving the mailboxes only 
brings over the actual data, leaving whitespace behind.

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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:47 AM
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Subject: Conversion


Is there a process in the migration is there a tool or anything that clears
up any whitespace, or any errors that the old edb may have?  Am trying to
get some time allotted to run isinteg and eseutil on both of my edb's, but
higher ups seem to think that something along the lines of an isinteg and
eseutil are done by the migration process.

cc

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Re: Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Tony Hlabse

What are you migrating to? New hardware or newer Exchange?

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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:46 AM
Subject: Conversion


 Is there a process in the migration is there a tool or anything that
clears
 up any whitespace, or any errors that the old edb may have?  Am trying to
 get some time allotted to run isinteg and eseutil on both of my edb's, but
 higher ups seem to think that something along the lines of an isinteg and
 eseutil are done by the migration process.

 cc

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using mailserver from another domain

2002-09-27 Thread Berepoot

I have 2 w2k domains. 1 (domA) has a Xch mail server, the other (domB)
not.
Is it possible for the users of domB to use the mail server in domA. And
what are the steps I have to take?
Can I make a mailbox for the users of domB on the exhange server in domA?


Many thanks in advance
Berepoot

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RE: Disappearing appointments

2002-09-27 Thread Andy David

Well, you havent given us much to go on, so at this point try disabling the
local calendar option in Outlook. 
Unless you are using O2002, in which case that option doesnt exist.



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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disappearing appointments


Has anyone ever heard of Calendar appointments just disappearing?  My users
are complaining that they had a calendar appointment but it some how was
deleted.  Also one is saying that someone just received an invitation to a
meeting from December of last year.  Any one heard of this behavior?

Thank you,
 
Alex 

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RE: Exchange HELL

2002-09-27 Thread Dupler, Craig

A HUGE block of training - in a hurry.

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Subject: Exchange HELL


I was recently given the responsibility for an Exchange 2000 Server.
This server has lots of problems:

1- The database disk is full, it has only 16MB free. The database has
5GB.

2- The online defragmentation tells me that the database has 1,9GB free,
but I don't have enough free space to do an offline defrag.

3- When I run System Manager I only see Recipients and Tools.
There's no sign of Global Settings and Administrative Groups

4- When I select Recipients I get the messages 
An invalid ADSI pathname was passed
An operations error occurred
 

I would like to hear your suggestions to solve all this problems.

Thanks in advance.

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RE: MIME and Exchange

2002-09-27 Thread Dupler, Craig

Did you run the obvious other set of tests? Try sending from PMDF to those
other mail systems as well.  If you cough up the same errors, then . . . 

-Original Message-
From: Joe Berthiaume [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MIME and Exchange



Here's the story. We have essentially 2 systems...legacy system running
PMDF mail, and the Windows end running Exchange 2000. Users frequently
send messages, with attachments(simple text files) or bodies full of
text(plain...fixed width), from the legacy end, via PMDF 6.11, to the
Exchange Server ( Windows 2000 sp2, exchange sp2) and the messages are
read with a mix of Outlook 2000 - 2002. 

Recently, some of these mails have not been reaching users inbox in
Outlook. PMDF logs show that the message was sent, but no acknowledgment
was received from Exchange, so PMDF marks it as a failure, and backs off
and tries again later. SMTP logs on the Exchange Server show EHLO, MAIL,
RCPT commands but no DATA or QUIT commands as a successful SMTP
conversation would.

Playing around with it some more resulted in some more data...it's
possible to force PMDF to send the attachment as different MIME parts.
If the attachment comes across as the 2nd MIME part it gets delivered on
Exchange with no problem...but if it's included as the 1st MIME part, it
doesn't come through. Note that the message isn't long...it just has a
lot of columns.(224) sometimes with characters and things like tabs, *,
- or ~'s. If we send just a short message, and short attachment, in the
first MIME part, it comes across...thus leading me to believe that
there's some kind of byte limitation in the first MIME part.

PMDF support, and the PMDF admin here thinks it's Exchange...that it's
in violation of some MIME RFC...I don't know. I can grab one of the
files that won't come over and send it to Exchange from Yahoo, Hotmail,
or AOL (yuck) and it comes over without a problem...I know that most
mail services embed the attachments in the 2nd MIME part, but I think
that's because even if you don't include any body text, they stick in
that dumb advertising in the body of the message, thus forcing the
attachment into MIME part #2.

They are telling me to call PSS about this...but I hesitate to do so
because stuff like this inevitably winds up being a PMDF screw up or
misconfiguration (in case you haven't figured it out by now, I hate
PMDF).

Latest version of Trend Scanmail for Exchange 2000 is installed and
running on the Exchange 2000 box. 

Thanks in advance.


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RE: Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Chris Scharff

Depends on the migration process being used.

 -Original Message-
 From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Conversion
 
 
 Is there a process in the migration is there a tool or 
 anything that clears up any whitespace, or any errors that 
 the old edb may have?  Am trying to get some time allotted to 
 run isinteg and eseutil on both of my edb's, but higher ups 
 seem to think that something along the lines of an isinteg 
 and eseutil are done by the migration process.
 
 cc
 
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RE: using mailserver from another domain

2002-09-27 Thread Tom Meunier

In the same AD Forest?  Run setup.exe /domainprep on domB.

 -Original Message-
 From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:01 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: using mailserver from another domain
 Subject: using mailserver from another domain
 
 
 I have 2 w2k domains. 1 (domA) has a Xch mail server, the 
 other (domB) not. Is it possible for the users of domB to use 
 the mail server in domA. And what are the steps I have to 
 take? Can I make a mailbox for the users of domB on the 
 exhange server in domA?
 
 
 Many thanks in advance
 Berepoot
 
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Lyris Experience?

2002-09-27 Thread Chris H

I am running a mailing with Lyris Listserver and I have a mail oddity going
on.
Mails dont get delivered to anyone on my list with an @aol.com domain.
If I open up Outlook Express on the same server and deliver the mail by
sending to my ISP's SMTP server the mail gets to the AOL user.
If I deliver using Lyris whether direct DNS delivery or sending on to same
SMTP server for forwarding the mail never gets to the AOL account.
The server has a DNS registration as well as a PTR record
(list.jergens.com).
When I had the domain name (jergens.com) entered under the computer name -
advanced tab, the Outlook Express send would fail as well. Once I removed
that, the Outlook Express send works now but the Lyris send is still
failing.

Anyone have any ideas?

TIA

Chris


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RE: using mailserver from another domain

2002-09-27 Thread Doug Kassay

Just allow for relaying from domB by IP address


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-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: using mailserver from another domain

I have 2 w2k domains. 1 (domA) has a Xch mail server, the other (domB)
not.
Is it possible for the users of domB to use the mail server in domA. And
what are the steps I have to take?
Can I make a mailbox for the users of domB on the exhange server in domA?


Many thanks in advance
Berepoot

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RE: Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Callan, Chris

New Hardware and New exchange

Going from Two Exch5.5 Machine to A Clustered E2k Machine.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Conversion


What are you migrating to? New hardware or newer Exchange?

- Original Message -
From: Callan, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:46 AM
Subject: Conversion


 Is there a process in the migration is there a tool or anything that
clears
 up any whitespace, or any errors that the old edb may have?  Am trying to
 get some time allotted to run isinteg and eseutil on both of my edb's, but
 higher ups seem to think that something along the lines of an isinteg and
 eseutil are done by the migration process.

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RE: Trend Scanmail Q: filt EXE but make exceptions

2002-09-27 Thread Hunter, Lori

Don't block .zip, make them zip their .exe.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Trend Scanmail Q: filt EXE but make exceptions


Can anyone using the Trend Scanmail product on Exchange(55) answer the
following:
Q: Is it possible to set the scanmail to filter EXE attachments, and/but
Make exceptions for centain EXE's?

Here is the deal:
Ive got Exch55sp4 NT4sp6a...
Running GRPSHL 4.5sp1(stop laughing it works now..finally)
Ok So Ive got GS to filter out all EXE (along with martins list of evil
too...plus some others)
My problem was that I had to make an exception for 2 EXE's for an internal
app to send out...NAI Tech came up with a reg hack/entry where I could
specify these 2 EXE's and GS would allow them to pass.

Ive been considering going to Scanmail...but have not gotten a straight
answer(from Trend) as to weather I could do this...All I got was...dont
filter EXE on the exchange box..do it at the interscan smtp prefilter
software/boxsorry but I want to filter EXE's in the exchange box
toobut I need these exceptions

thanks
bill

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Why move to E2K

2002-09-27 Thread M2web

I have been asked by our CTO to justify why we should go to E2K and spend
$2.00 as result of the move on new real time mirroring software. I have
gathered the usual MS stuff but would you have any compelling reason that I
could also add or point me to other resources.

Thanks

the extra 20 grand comes as a result of Double Take (which unfortunately we
already own) not supporting E2K like Exch 5.5 (if you look at their site
they never mention this) and thus the need to go to NSI Geo Cluster (another
crap, pardon my english) as our CTO wants an automatic failover just in case
there is no one around.


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RE: Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Callan, Chris

New Hardware and New exchange

Going from Two Exch5.5 Machine to A Clustered E2k Machine.


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RE: Multiple updaters for a DL

2002-09-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

Well yea. She expecting to meet a guy. 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple updaters for a DL


Missy still talks to anyone who will listen about our first in person
meeting. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Murray Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 11:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Multiple updaters for a DL
 
 
 I'm not quite sure now.
 
 Oh, Missy? Have you met Chris? I think you two would get
 along famously.
 
 humor-challenged
 Yes, I'm aware that Chris and Missy have attended several MEC
 events, and have probably met in person. I'm making another 
 of my (in)famous attempts at humor. Please see the archives 
 (and good luck to you) for examples of my previous successes. 
 /humor-challenged
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 3:04 PM
 Subject: RE: Multiple updaters for a DL
 
 
  Dls can't be owners of DLs. What's the question again?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Murray Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:53 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: Multiple updaters for a DL
  
  
   You're killing me, Missy.
  
   So, obviously it wasn't Missy who said that a DL couldn't own
   another. My brilliant facility with logic enables me to 
 deduce that
   it must've been someone else. Either that, or I've imagined the
   whole thing.
  
   So, first thing in the morning, I'm gonna have another
 whack at it.
  
   On a related note, Missy's second statement about E2K has me
   somewhat concerned (only somewhat, because I'm the calm, cool, 
   collected type). This leads me to two questions:
  
   Isn't this a migration issue?
   How have other people dealt with this?
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Missy Koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 8:41 AM
   Subject: Re: Multiple updaters for a DL
  
  
In 5.5, a DL can own another DL.  In E2K, it cannot.
- Original Message -
From: Murray Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple updaters for a DL
   
   
That's what I thought. However, I couldn't make it happen.
   I seem to
remember a post from some expert (you? Chris Scharff?
   Missy? Daniel?
Oh, dear, that's gonna drive me nuts) saying that a DL
   couldn't be the
owner
   of
another DL. Hoping that this wasn't true, I tried it again
   and again.
It seems to be true.
   
- Original Message -
From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple updaters for a DL
   
   
 I thought the way to do it was to put the DL in the Owner
   field for
 the list.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
 Tech Consultant
 hp Services
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
 Of Murray
 Alexander
 Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Multiple updaters for a DL


 In the hope that I'm actually contributing something
   useful, because
 I _still_ can't figure out how to get at the archives...

 EX5.5 SP3, NT4 SP6a:
 I've discovered how to give multiple people update
   privileges on a
 DL. We have two domains, PEOPLE and EXCHANGE, where
 the latter
 trusts the former. Each Exchange mailbox is associated
   with a PEOPLE
 domain account. I created a NT Global Group (DLADMINS)
   that contains
 the NT accounts associated with the mailboxes of
 those who need
 update privileges. Then, in Exchange Administrator, I
 added that
 group, with User privileges, to the Permissions page
   of DLs that
 needed attention from these people.

 I know I've seen posts from others asking about this,
 but can't
 remember if anyone had a solution.

 If you did all this months ago and posted your findings, when
 did you do that? I've been keeping my own archive for about a
   year, and
 couldn't find it.

 If you know how to get to the archives, please give
 me lots of
 details off-line. Despite some foot-in-mouth postings
 earlier, I
 consider myself reasonably intelligent. I really do want to
 understand this stuff.



 
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RE: Wrong address pops up in OL2k

2002-09-27 Thread Webb, Andy

note that you can also delete a specific nickname from the list.  when
the little popup appears on the screen, you can hit the delete key and
remove just that nickname.

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:36 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Wrong address pops up in OL2k
Subject: RE: Wrong address pops up in OL2k


Q242074 got it.  Thanks, all.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Wrong address pops up in OL2k
 
 
 Sure.  Turn off auto-name checking.  Type in the SMTP name (i.e.,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and let it resolve.  It should stay
 that way from then on.  Then, if you want, turn auto-name 
 checking back on.
 
 Geoff...
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Wrong address pops up in OL2k
 
 
 Here's the situation:
 
 Mike (the user) wants to send an email to Heather (who is
 external to our organization).
 
 Heather is in Mike's Contacts list, and to email Heather he
 just types Heather in OL's To: field and everything is fine.
 
 Heather's email address has recently changed.  Mike changed
 her entry in his Contacts to reflect the new address, but 
 when he types Heather in the To: field now, it resolves to 
 her old email address.  I've confirmed that she is the only 
 Heather in his Contacts, and that her email address as 
 entered there is the current one.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 
 
 ___
 Chris Levis
 Applied Geographics, Inc.
 
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RE: smtp address

2002-09-27 Thread Webb, Andy

Default Recipient Policy.

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-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: smtp address


I have a windows2000 domain and an Exchange 2000 server. All new mail
enabled users recieve the [EMAIL PROTECTED] domain. But I want to
change it in Exchange so that all the users get an email address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] domain. And the problem is that I know not enough of
exchange to do that. Is there anyone who can give me the place where I
can configure it in Exchange system management.

Tx in advance
Berepoot  

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RE: Opening other user's mailboxes

2002-09-27 Thread Webb, Andy

it's impossible to correct every off-base random usenet poster. 

you should, indeed, avoid looking at permissions on the M: drive.

for mailbox permissions, you need to use the Mailbox Rights tab on the
mailboxes as described in the KB articles.

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-Original Message-
From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opening other user's mailboxes


Oh, that was a random Usenet poster telling another random Usenet poster
that they should modify Mailbox permissions from the folders under the
M:\ drive. 
They needed calendar permissions changed, so I assumed (very wrongly)
that it could work also for the inbox permissions.  However, because of
this list, I am afraid to even look at the M:\ icon  in Explorer so I
thought I'd ask.  
By the way, no one responded to that random Usenet person telling them
they are wrong. 

AW


On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, you wrote:
 What? Do it in AD. Besides what does right clicking on Calendar have 
 to do with Mailbox access?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:09 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opening other user's mailboxes
 
 
 Hi,
 
 If I look in the ACtive-directory Computers and Users console,
 I see that one
 of the users (that can open other mailboxes) is a domain-user, 
 and also members
 of some distribution lists I setup.
 
 But if I use explorer, I see that under M:\ - DOMAIN - MBX -
 UserName -
 Inbox   has the group everybody with full rights (!)
 
 I am not sure how this happened but I'd like to know how to change it.
 
 
 
 On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, you wrote:
  what permissions do the users have, I know that if you have
 Admin privleges
  you can open anyone mailbox.  A
  -Original Message-
  From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:53 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Opening other user's mailboxes
  
  
  Hallo,
  
  I have (at least) 2 users that can open other user's Mailboxes.
  In my frantic search for a solution, I came across a post on 
 usenet which
  states:
  
  Check the permissions in the (M) drive that exchange
 creates. Goto the
  mail box that you want to view, right click on the calendar, goto 
  security, then set the permissions. Hope this helps.
  
  From reading this list, I know to ignore the M drive for
 doing backups.  But
  in
  this case can I change permissions as mentioned above?  I
 don't see how to
  do
  it in the Exchange Administrator console nor on the client.
  
  Thanks,
  AW
  
  Exchange 2000, client Outlook 2000
  
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RE: How did you set up Searching Public Folders?

2002-09-27 Thread Webb, Andy

Not free.  Microsoft SharePoint Portal Server can index and search
public folders.  There are other third party applications too.

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-Original Message-
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How did you set up Searching Public Folders?


I've looked on Microsoft Knowledgebase and have found that you can't
search sub folders with Public Folders because they can be on different
Servers. Has any one an application or plug in that can do this?

john

 Remember 9/11

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RE: Exchange 2000 ssl accelerator

2002-09-27 Thread Webb, Andy

I know people have done this quite a bit.  Don't know about that
specific hardware though.  Does OWA work on the FE without the SSLA?

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-Original Message-
From: Info1 Team [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 ssl accelerator


Anyone ever been successful deploying E2k in a front end/back end
scenario with the front end box in a DMZ along with a hardware ssl
accelerator? Can't get OWA to work correctly.  You get prompted for
authentication twice and then you can get into OWA, but Exchange
automatically redirects it to a http vice an https connection.  It's the
exact same problem that is outlined in the below Q article.  The only
problem is that we aren't running a proxy server and there is no way on
the h/w accelerator box to add the header. OWA will be the primary means
of accessing corporate email and we need the functionality provided by
the hardware SSL accelerator to handle all the SSL encryption/decryption
with as many connections as possible vice limiting the number of
connections using traditional IIS SSL.

E2k Enterprise svc pk 3
Win2k Svc Pk 3
Intel Netstructure 7110 hardware accelerators


PSS ID Number: Q260772
Article last modified on 09-18-2000

winnt:

winnt


==

---

The information in this article applies to:

 - Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server

---


SYMPTOMS


When you use Microsoft Outlook Web Access (OWA) with Secure Sockets
Layer
(SSL)
enabled to connect to a front-end Exchange 2000 Server computer that is
running behind a proxy server, the SSL connection may not be successful.
This problem may also occur when you are using only a back-end Exchange
2000 Server computer.


CAUSE
=

This problem can occur because SSL or HTTPS requests arrive at the
back-end Exchange 2000 Server computer on port 80 instead of arriving at
the front-end Exchange 2000 Server computer. Redirects are returned as
http://; instead of https://;.

RESOLUTION
==

To resolve this problem, configure the proxy server to add the following
header on upstream requests when OWA SSL requests are on port 443:

   FrontendHTTPS:ON

STATUS
==

Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem in Microsoft Exchange 2000
Server.

Additional query words: xmrp

==
Keywords  :
Component : WebClient
Version   : winnt:
Platform  : winnt
Issue type: kbbug
Solution Type : kbnofix

=

Copyright Microsoft Corporation 2000.



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RE: MEC

2002-09-27 Thread Ed Crowley

I thought they'd already done that more or less.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:47 AM
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Next year should be interesting. This is essentially the last MEC.
According to the latest MEC mailing, Next year they will be combining
MEC and TechEd into one new conference.

-Original Message-
From: Don Couch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC


Unfortunately, I can not attend - next year, hopefully!

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I too will be there.  Any words of advice for first time attendees?  I
plan on bringing clean underwear and trying my first fish taco.  In
addition to that, what else can I expect?

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RE: Trend Scanmail Q: filt EXE but make exceptions

2002-09-27 Thread Durkee, Peter

For what it's worth you can do this in Antigen.

-Peter


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Can anyone using the Trend Scanmail product on Exchange(55) answer the
following:
Q: Is it possible to set the scanmail to filter EXE attachments, and/but
Make exceptions for centain EXE's?

Here is the deal:
Ive got Exch55sp4 NT4sp6a...
Running GRPSHL 4.5sp1(stop laughing it works now..finally)
Ok So Ive got GS to filter out all EXE (along with martins list of evil
too...plus some others)
My problem was that I had to make an exception for 2 EXE's for an internal
app to send out...NAI Tech came up with a reg hack/entry where I could
specify these 2 EXE's and GS would allow them to pass.

Ive been considering going to Scanmail...but have not gotten a straight
answer(from Trend) as to weather I could do this...All I got was...dont
filter EXE on the exchange box..do it at the interscan smtp prefilter
software/boxsorry but I want to filter EXE's in the exchange box
toobut I need these exceptions

thanks
bill

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RE: Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Ed Crowley

Migrate using FAQ Appendix A and whitespace won't migrate.

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New Hardware and New exchange

Going from Two Exch5.5 Machine to A Clustered E2k Machine.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Conversion


What are you migrating to? New hardware or newer Exchange?

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Subject: Conversion


 Is there a process in the migration is there a tool or anything that
clears
 up any whitespace, or any errors that the old edb may have?  Am trying

 to get some time allotted to run isinteg and eseutil on both of my 
 edb's, but higher ups seem to think that something along the lines of 
 an isinteg and eseutil are done by the migration process.

 cc

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RE: Why move to E2K

2002-09-27 Thread William Lefkovics

Did you want justifications for IT or reasons it will help your
business?  Are you looking for a way to justify it so you can use it or
are there actual business needs that E2K provides?

The efforts in your justification may well point to it being
unnecessary.

William


To save time:

From: M2web [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Why go to E2k

My justifications:

Information store can be split a different HDs. thus corruption doesnot
mean probable loss of all of the days' emails or downtime for everyone.
 
Exchange 2000 with Microsoft Windows 2000 has a single, enterprise
directory, the Microsoft Active Directory directory service, for all
file, print, application, user, and other messaging objects. 

When Microsoft Office documents are stored in Exchange 2000, Office
users can take advantage of the power of Outlook to view, sort, search,
and manage documents with the same tools they currently use for their
messages, calendars, and contacts. 

Tightly integrated instant messaging, chat, multimedia conferencing, and
mobile services 

Enhanced functionality for Microsoft Internet Explorer users When
accessed through Internet Explorer , Outlook Web Access closely
resembles the full client interface (see Figure 1). Outlook Web Access
is also more efficient for Internet Explorer users because it does not
require communication with the Outlook Web Access server for every mouse
click in the interface 

support for embedded items  Outlook Web Access now supports embedded
items such as messages, appointments, and meeting requests, as well as
contacts and posts. 

Support for public folders that contain contact and calendar items 

AD and Exchange can now be managed thru a single interface.


however I am afraid this might not be enough!



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Subject: Why move to E2K


I have been asked by our CTO to justify why we should go to E2K and
spend $2.00 as result of the move on new real time mirroring
software. I have gathered the usual MS stuff but would you have any
compelling reason that I could also add or point me to other resources.

Thanks

the extra 20 grand comes as a result of Double Take (which unfortunately
we already own) not supporting E2K like Exch 5.5 (if you look at their
site they never mention this) and thus the need to go to NSI Geo Cluster
(another crap, pardon my english) as our CTO wants an automatic failover
just in case there is no one around.


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RE: Why move to E2K

2002-09-27 Thread Webb, Andy

We don't know anything about how your organization uses Exchange, so
there's no way to offer any constructive information about the ROI of
upgrading.

Certainly having an additional $20K to overcome will make the return
harder to achieve.

===
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Simpler-Webb, Inc.   Austin, TX512-322-0071
=== 

-Original Message-
From: M2web [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:56 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Why move to E2K
Subject: Why move to E2K


I have been asked by our CTO to justify why we should go to E2K and
spend $2.00 as result of the move on new real time mirroring
software. I have gathered the usual MS stuff but would you have any
compelling reason that I could also add or point me to other resources.

Thanks

the extra 20 grand comes as a result of Double Take (which unfortunately
we already own) not supporting E2K like Exch 5.5 (if you look at their
site they never mention this) and thus the need to go to NSI Geo Cluster
(another crap, pardon my english) as our CTO wants an automatic failover
just in case there is no one around.


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RE: MEC

2002-09-27 Thread Martin Blackstone

Mark Your Calendar
To make it as convenient as possible for our customers to learn about the
Microsoft platform - how the products work together, how to plan
deployments, and how to build solutions - next year, the MEC content will be
combined with Tech*Ed. Microsoft will be releasing of a core set of products
in 2003 including Windows .NET Server 2003, Exchange, Office, Visual Studio
.NET 2003, SharePoint Portal Server, SharePoint Team Services and SQL
Server. In order to offer a mix of IT infrastructure and developer content
in a single event, Tech*Ed will be significantly expanded and MEC will be
discontinued as a stand-alone conference. An additional day and more than
100 new sessions have been added to the Tech*Ed agenda. You'll also receive
more information about other Tech*Ed activities that will continue to foster
the strong IT professional community. And, as a MEC 2002 attendee, you will
receive $500 off the Tech*Ed 2003 registration fee. 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC


I thought they'd already done that more or less.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC


Next year should be interesting. This is essentially the last MEC.
According to the latest MEC mailing, Next year they will be combining MEC
and TechEd into one new conference.

-Original Message-
From: Don Couch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC


Unfortunately, I can not attend - next year, hopefully!

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Force
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I too will be there.  Any words of advice for first time attendees?  I plan
on bringing clean underwear and trying my first fish taco.  In addition to
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Re: Conversion

2002-09-27 Thread Tony Hlabse

Need much more info. If your asking how to do this by asking this list then
you should hire someone to do it. All migrations/upgrades have there own
unique problems and processes based on the infrastructure.  There is no one
way.


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From: Callan, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Conversion


 New Hardware and New exchange

 Going from Two Exch5.5 Machine to A Clustered E2k Machine.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Conversion


 What are you migrating to? New hardware or newer Exchange?

 - Original Message -
 From: Callan, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 8:46 AM
 Subject: Conversion


  Is there a process in the migration is there a tool or anything that
 clears
  up any whitespace, or any errors that the old edb may have?  Am trying
to
  get some time allotted to run isinteg and eseutil on both of my edb's,
but
  higher ups seem to think that something along the lines of an isinteg
and
  eseutil are done by the migration process.
 
  cc
 
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