RE: A CHALLENGE to the List
I accept. Being a relatively new member to this list, I believe an impartial review of this publication is within my abilities. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A CHALLENGE to the List Well, it appears that a number of individuals from this list have chosen to engage in childish and cowardly ad hominem attacks on myself and Achieving Process Profitability: Building the IT Profit Center without ever even reading a single page of it. I have been in contact with Amazon.com so these reviews will be removed in the near future. I could take this opportunity to opine about how unprofessional, unfair, childish and cowardly this is, but instead I offer this challenge: I will send you a copy of my Achieving Process Profitability at my own expense for you to review. All that I ask in return is that you actually read Achieving Process Profitability and post an honest, impartial review of it's contents, not your personal prejudices, to Amazon.com and this list. I will only respond to indivuals that publicly accept my challenge on this list, just respond to this message and then privately email me your name and address. I have a limited supply of books so I will accept the first 10-12 responses to this challenge. All fair-minded individuals will accept this challenge and the rest of the pompous bags of gas will be exposed for what they are. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Usenet newsfeeds
Hello all, I would like to set up certain groups here at the hospital (most namely sci.med.* and Microsoft.public.*, but our ISP doesn't appear to have a news provider that allows push/pull (supernews). If anyone knows of free newsfeeds with push/pull, let me know! TIA, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000)
Stupid question, are you right clicking on the parent folder, right below Folders-Public Folders? When I right click on the next level folder (one that has sub folders), I am able to see propagate settings under the all tasks context menu. Using E2k/sp3+rollups on W2k/sp4+criticals Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HOLLIDAY, Eric Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000) Yup, sure am. Eric -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000) hrm... are you using a userid that has exchange admin? -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000) OK. When I right click a Public Folder, the only things that appear are 'Properties' 'Help'. Eric -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000) ESM. -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000) Which program are you referring to? I do not get that option in either AD UC nor ESM. Yes, I know _I_ didn't specify the prog in my original post, so I deserve this... Eric -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000) Right click on the folder-all tasks-propagate settings. -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question on Public Folders (Ex2000) To all: How do you set up Public Folders to enable replication to propagate down? Right now, I have to click on every single public folder and add the appropriate server. There has GOT to be a better way! My environment: Windows 2000 AS SP3 Exchange 2000 SP4 Enterprise TIA, Eric Holliday Exchange Administrator Corporate Information Systems Logistics Management Institute (703) 917-7117 2000 Corporate Ridge McLean, Virginia 22102 www.lmi.org _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK
One odd thing I have noticed, NDR's have taken the space after Undeliverable: out. Now messages have subject lines with no space between the colon and the original subject line. Is this editable? If so, where? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK Ok, I am a little sleepy, my bad. :-/ -Original Message- From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK Back to the email sent on Tuesday. September 2003 Exchange 2000 Server Post-Service Pack 3 Rollup http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824282 Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:37 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK Subject: RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK Wasn't it released in March? -Original Message- From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK Hello, FWIW, the newly released E2K post-SP3 Roll-up fix has been working fine on a production techie server for over a day now. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813840 E2K: Native, Scanmail 6.1 OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native OUTLOOK/MAPI, OWA, POP, IMAP used regularly on this server. YMMV, Brent _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Icon's and piping username/domain/password.
Lart the bitch with a 2x4 Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Icon's and piping username/domain/password. Install Metaframe server and create two separate application sessions with different credentials. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Icon's and piping username/domain/password. Create 2 batch files that launch Outlook via the runas command. Jason -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Icon's and piping username/domain/password. Exchange 5.5 We have a new president coming into the University who has some unusual requests. She would like to have two separate icons available on her desktop which point to two separate outlook accounts which will pipe in the username/domain/password. One for herself and one for the husband. She does not want to be bothered with typing in login information. Never heard of this request before, so I thought I would post it. Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Postmaster question
On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Postmaster question Go to Servers- your server - Protocols - SMTP - Default SMTP server. Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the box that says Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts put in the address you wish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J. Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Postmaster question Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sobig.F alert
That is actually overestimating the price of security. Redhat is free (without support), and a pc to run this would cost less than 250 if you knew where to look. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert It shouldn't...but yes, it does. I mean, come on. For the cost of a $250 PC and a $50 copy of RedHat 9.0 (actually, a recycled PII or PII would do), thrown in front of every access point to the network, they could be blocking every attachment on the Martin Blackstone list! BAS! -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert And this surprises you??? -- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert I was S disgusted on Friday with our federal government's anti-virus policy!! I had to make a trip over to the passport office in Seattle to get a new passport for the wife, who was leaving on a 1:23pm flight that day for Chile. The passport office is an office of the Department of State. Does the Department of State computer security full under the jurisdiction of the Office of Homeland Security? One would think so. We had just made plane reservations with a credit card, received a confirmation number, but for some reason the airline couldn't send us a fax...I'm guessing they had their outside link to the world cut off for security. We get to the passport office on Friday morning, only to have them tell us that they couldn't process our request with just a confirmation number, due to the fact that the State Dept.'s computer network was down due to the Sobig.f virus!!! Arrrggghh!! Absolutely disgusting, shoddy, second-rate governmental attitude strikes again! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert I'm blaming the pizza I just had for the big jump in gas. -Original Message- From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert Can we blame this virus for the big jump in gas prices today? -Original Message- From: Sagert, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert Me too. Oh well, now we can still go the bar after work instead of staying and fighting viruses all nite. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert This is the most anti climactic virus ever. I want my money back -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steck, Herb Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert Looks like my upstream has killed routes the all of theseway to go ISP. -Original Message- From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert 68.38.159.161 and 65.95.193.138 seem to be the last two standing unless ICMP is turned off on some of the other servers/pc's. Because that really wouldn't matter, the theory is that the infect machines are going to get their instructions from these 20 masters servers and then launch a distributed attack on the root DNS servers..1 minute left -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert well's that where My q came inChris even put up a piece which said they new about 20 servers ..18 OFFL, 2 ONL so then they have ID'd these things right? why not publish the IP and/or the domain names ..so people could block these too... it just say's about UDP port ..couldnt that also change on the fly? bill -Original Message- From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert wouldve been nice for them to publish the IP list so we could block it from our firewalls. Incoming and outgoing. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert If only Arnold wasn't running for
RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.
He did seem a bit defensive didn't he? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I understood that you had not scanned the Exchange files with a file based AV product. However, if you have a product that runs for a long time, then suddenly stops working (locking up the server, etc) then the server starts working again when you take the product off, you should look at the points of intersection as to where a problem may have developed. In this case, your message databases. -1018 errors don't have to be recorded to have a problem inside the database. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:04 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I don't have a corrupted database. Why would you or what leads you to make that assumption? I have no 1018 errors, I have no event logs of any kind that point to any database errors. The problem has not re-occurred since removing the AV software. Like I said before, I did not have the file-level AV scanning the databases. If you are going to make a claim such as I should run maintenance, back it up with the reasons why. Not just saying you think I have database corruption. Tell me why you think I have corruption. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Ben: Sounds like you may have a corrupted database. Have you thought about running maintenance on the server? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:28 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. We had been running 3 layers until it seems that Symantec's product for Exchange 2000 (coupled with Corp Ed as file level) locked up the server a couple of times. I can't prove it was Symantec, but I removed all AV off our Exchange server, and it hasn't had a problem since. And yes, I'm not stupid enough to scan the Exchsrvr directories with file-based scanners. Now, we are only running 2. SAV for SMTP Gateways, and Desktop. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:39 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email systems. My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable with desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and spam. Desktop is Symantec and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling is to also protect the IS stores too. How many have 3 levels. _ bGet MSN 8/b and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.
If that were the case Ben, those of us who run Symantec products both against the mailstore and as file based would have problems, would we not? No problems here... Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Thanks, John. I didn't want to come across as harsh, I just wanted you to provide some reasoning for why you felt that way. I've seen so many posts here and elsewhere blindly recommending to folks that they should run eseutil and/or isinteg, etc., when the poster has no clue how powerful those tools are or what they really do. I'm not inferring that's what you did, but that is where I am coming from. I will take a closer look at the store, but I am still of the opinion that the Symantec product is at fault. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:32 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I understood that you had not scanned the Exchange files with a file based AV product. However, if you have a product that runs for a long time, then suddenly stops working (locking up the server, etc) then the server starts working again when you take the product off, you should look at the points of intersection as to where a problem may have developed. In this case, your message databases. -1018 errors don't have to be recorded to have a problem inside the database. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:04 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I don't have a corrupted database. Why would you or what leads you to make that assumption? I have no 1018 errors, I have no event logs of any kind that point to any database errors. The problem has not re-occurred since removing the AV software. Like I said before, I did not have the file-level AV scanning the databases. If you are going to make a claim such as I should run maintenance, back it up with the reasons why. Not just saying you think I have database corruption. Tell me why you think I have corruption. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Ben: Sounds like you may have a corrupted database. Have you thought about running maintenance on the server? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:28 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. We had been running 3 layers until it seems that Symantec's product for Exchange 2000 (coupled with Corp Ed as file level) locked up the server a couple of times. I can't prove it was Symantec, but I removed all AV off our Exchange server, and it hasn't had a problem since. And yes, I'm not stupid enough to scan the Exchsrvr directories with file-based scanners. Now, we are only running 2. SAV for SMTP Gateways, and Desktop. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:39 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email systems. My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable with desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and spam. Desktop is Symantec and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling is to also protect the IS stores too. How many have 3 levels. _ bGet MSN 8/b and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _
RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.
What an asshole Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Bite me. If I told you that you should run eseutil on your databases just because I think your database is corrupt, without any reasoning why I thought it was corrupt, would you? I certainly won't. John responded to my response with what seemed to be a well though out answer. You, however, seem to have no clue. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:35 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. He did seem a bit defensive didn't he? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I understood that you had not scanned the Exchange files with a file based AV product. However, if you have a product that runs for a long time, then suddenly stops working (locking up the server, etc) then the server starts working again when you take the product off, you should look at the points of intersection as to where a problem may have developed. In this case, your message databases. -1018 errors don't have to be recorded to have a problem inside the database. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:04 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I don't have a corrupted database. Why would you or what leads you to make that assumption? I have no 1018 errors, I have no event logs of any kind that point to any database errors. The problem has not re-occurred since removing the AV software. Like I said before, I did not have the file-level AV scanning the databases. If you are going to make a claim such as I should run maintenance, back it up with the reasons why. Not just saying you think I have database corruption. Tell me why you think I have corruption. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Ben: Sounds like you may have a corrupted database. Have you thought about running maintenance on the server? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:28 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. We had been running 3 layers until it seems that Symantec's product for Exchange 2000 (coupled with Corp Ed as file level) locked up the server a couple of times. I can't prove it was Symantec, but I removed all AV off our Exchange server, and it hasn't had a problem since. And yes, I'm not stupid enough to scan the Exchsrvr directories with file-based scanners. Now, we are only running 2. SAV for SMTP Gateways, and Desktop. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:39 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email systems. My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable with desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and spam. Desktop is Symantec and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling is to also protect the IS stores too. How many have 3 levels. _ bGet MSN 8/b and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ
RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.
You are right Tony, What I should have said is: Boy what a prick, *ploink* goes the asshole. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Boy, I am going to have to say a Rosary for both you guys. From: Lawrence, Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:56:42 -0500 What an asshole Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Bite me. If I told you that you should run eseutil on your databases just because I think your database is corrupt, without any reasoning why I thought it was corrupt, would you? I certainly won't. John responded to my response with what seemed to be a well though out answer. You, however, seem to have no clue. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:35 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. He did seem a bit defensive didn't he? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I understood that you had not scanned the Exchange files with a file based AV product. However, if you have a product that runs for a long time, then suddenly stops working (locking up the server, etc) then the server starts working again when you take the product off, you should look at the points of intersection as to where a problem may have developed. In this case, your message databases. -1018 errors don't have to be recorded to have a problem inside the database. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:04 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I don't have a corrupted database. Why would you or what leads you to make that assumption? I have no 1018 errors, I have no event logs of any kind that point to any database errors. The problem has not re-occurred since removing the AV software. Like I said before, I did not have the file-level AV scanning the databases. If you are going to make a claim such as I should run maintenance, back it up with the reasons why. Not just saying you think I have database corruption. Tell me why you think I have corruption. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Ben: Sounds like you may have a corrupted database. Have you thought about running maintenance on the server? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:28 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. We had been running 3 layers until it seems that Symantec's product for Exchange 2000 (coupled with Corp Ed as file level) locked up the server a couple of times. I can't prove it was Symantec, but I removed all AV off our Exchange server, and it hasn't had a problem since. And yes, I'm not stupid enough to scan the Exchsrvr directories with file-based scanners. Now, we are only running 2. SAV for SMTP Gateways, and Desktop. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:39 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email systems. My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable with desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and spam. Desktop is Symantec and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling is to also protect the IS stores too. How many have 3
RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.
Well his attitude says otherwise. Very defensive to what seemed like a reasonable QUESTION, not a directive. When I noted that defensiveness he jumps down my throat? The world doesn't need any more loose cannons like this. I have ploinked the fool. Any further discussions about him can be private, but don't pollute the message list further. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I can say with absolute certainty that Ben is *not* an a-hole. He did learn a few too many things from me[1], but he's not an a-hole. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. [1] A few of which were actually good -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. What an asshole Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Bite me. If I told you that you should run eseutil on your databases just because I think your database is corrupt, without any reasoning why I thought it was corrupt, would you? I certainly won't. John responded to my response with what seemed to be a well though out answer. You, however, seem to have no clue. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:35 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. He did seem a bit defensive didn't he? Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I understood that you had not scanned the Exchange files with a file based AV product. However, if you have a product that runs for a long time, then suddenly stops working (locking up the server, etc) then the server starts working again when you take the product off, you should look at the points of intersection as to where a problem may have developed. In this case, your message databases. -1018 errors don't have to be recorded to have a problem inside the database. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:04 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. I don't have a corrupted database. Why would you or what leads you to make that assumption? I have no 1018 errors, I have no event logs of any kind that point to any database errors. The problem has not re-occurred since removing the AV software. Like I said before, I did not have the file-level AV scanning the databases. If you are going to make a claim such as I should run maintenance, back it up with the reasons why. Not just saying you think I have database corruption. Tell me why you think I have corruption. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Ben: Sounds like you may have a corrupted database. Have you thought about running maintenance on the server? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:28 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. We had been running 3 layers until it seems that Symantec's product for Exchange 2000 (coupled with Corp Ed as file level) locked up the server a couple of times. I can't prove it was Symantec, but I removed all AV off our Exchange server, and it hasn't had a problem since. And yes, I'm not stupid enough to scan the Exchsrvr directories with file-based scanners. Now, we are only running 2. SAV
RE: Items moving to deleted items folder
I think what he meant was the setting under Tools, Options, Email Options, Tracking Options, Delete blank voting and meeting responses after processing (This is in Outlook 2002, but 98 should have something similar. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Items moving to deleted items folder There are no third party spam filters. The eMAILs are going to the deleted items folder unread and unopened. Thanks -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Items moving to deleted items folder Uncheck the automatically process read receipts box. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:23 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Items moving to deleted items folder Subject: Items moving to deleted items folder Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 Windows 2000 I have a user that has meeting notifications for Accepted:, Deleted: and Canceled: going directly to his Deleted Items folder. He has no rules turned on; we have deleted his .RWZ file; his adult content is not turned on and as a last resort we copied his mailbox to a PST, deleted his old mailbox, created a new mailbox, and restored from the PST. Still no good. These items are moving to the deleted items folder. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Mike Mitchell Systems email Administrator Alverno Information Services * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211 Education is when you read the fine print, experience is what you get when you don't! - Pete Seeger _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where'd the setting go?
You are not crazy. =) The setting I believe you are looking for is under your System Manager, Administrative Groups, (first administrative group), Routing Groups, Connectors. If I read your message correctly, you want to create a connector to route email to specific domains through a relay that that domain will accept mail from. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence Network Administrator/Systems Analyst **Good|Cheap|Fast (Pick Two)** -Original Message- From: Robert Blomquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Where'd the setting go? Sorry if this is a duplicate, I received no confirmation that the first one went. I did receive a notice that it didn't like my subject Mail Delivery. On my Mail 55 server I could set Exchange to use DNS to resolve the remote server's address and send the message directly to that server AND manually set specific domains to relay through another mail server. This worked well for me since other internal sites are using external IP addresses internally (DOH!!). The only way I could get mail out to certain domains was to relay to our ISP's mail server so it could route it properly. I'm almost positive I had this setup on my Exchange 2000 server but switched to all mail being relayed through a smart host. I'm now running into the problem of many of our clients blocking our mail as spam because UUNet's servers are on a lot of black lists and I want to change back. But for the life of me I can't find where the setting is to specify certain domains be sent to another SMTP server. In 5.5 I could do it on the IMS connector on the Connections tab. In Message Delivery there is a button to specify E-Mail domain. Where is that stinking setting, or am I crazy and 2000 never had this? Robert Blomquist Supervisor of Information Technology _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SWBELL.NET bouncing all of the sudden?
I knew it wasn't me. What should I expect from the old prodigy service. Thank you, Mitchell D. Lawrence -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SWBELL.NET bouncing all of the sudden? Yeah, it lets you do a HELO, but then on the MAIL FROM: it goes 550. I haven't tried all their servers (they do round-robin DNS on their MX records) because I'm lazy and it's not my problem. ;) -Original Message- From: Mitch Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:31 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: SWBELL.NET bouncing all of the sudden? Subject: SWBELL.NET bouncing all of the sudden? Has anyone else noticed recent bounce messages when users try to send mail to swbell.net? Any ideas why I am all of the sudden? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
