RE: Backups Checklist
Ouch. Hey the free AOL trial is not so bad... -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Alas, I have no hottub. But I do have broadband internet access. How you doin' with that, hoss? :P -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! 10 Reasons to Stop Bombing Afghanistan - http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11764 -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Thank you for that update. But do you work remotely from the hottub, like Mr Miller? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Proof! Vindication! :) Anyway, I haven't been in a position to build a real server for nearly a year (working remotely), so I haven't had to think about it lately... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist I've had that happen. The first ProLiant I got had the infamous Western Digital 2GB drives. Four of the five failed, although each at a different time so I never lost the RAID array! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one batch all failing at once or close to each-other. On the extremely off chance of that happening, I always loaded my servers with drives that had non-sequential serial numbers, if I had them... -- Drew _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backups Checklist
If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backups Checklist
Right. Backing up the log files with the IS running is worthless. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backups Checklist
And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backups Checklist
I always thought that if you backed up priv.edb at midnight and then priv.edb goes down at say noon the next day, that rolling back the log files from midnight to noon when the failure occured would allow you to reclaim the mail that is not in that restored version of priv.edb? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backups Checklist
Sure, that's true. But the mail in those log files wouldn't have been backed up since he's talking about backing everything up at the same time. If you do an incremental backup of Exchange, that's just what it does--it backs up the log files. But it won't be of much use if you don't use the Exchange-aware backup. If you put your log files on a separate drive from the IS, you're pretty well protected and shouldn't lose any data in the event of a single drive failure. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist I always thought that if you backed up priv.edb at midnight and then priv.edb goes down at say noon the next day, that rolling back the log files from midnight to noon when the failure occured would allow you to reclaim the mail that is not in that restored version of priv.edb? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backups Checklist
The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backups Checklist
Turn off that circular logging!! Your full online backup should be set to flush committed logs and then they'll go away. If they don't go away, check your backups. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backups Checklist
committed flush... -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Turn off that circular logging!! Your full online backup should be set to flush committed logs and then they'll go away. If they don't go away, check your backups. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual
Re: Backups Checklist
Thanks for the feedback. I do have 3 physical arrays on 2 different controllers (1 with 2 channels) C: mirror - OS D: mirror - Logs E: Raid5 - DBs So it seems I can just do a full online backup of the stores via the exchange aware ntbackup. If I lose the store, I can put new disks in my raid5 array, restore the db and then play back my log files from D:. Thanks! Oh yeah, and FLUSH THOSE COMMITTED LOGS ;) he he - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe
RE: Backups Checklist
Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Ook. - The Librarian. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Backups Checklist
you mean the one log file that is being written to at the time of the backup? Magic, of course! Hmmm Good question . . . Open File Agent? But then I need ArcServe or BE right? Do *you* know the answer? Besides an OFFLINE backup? LOL - Original Message - From: Drewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Ook. - The Librarian. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backups Checklist
Not backing up the log files but expecting them to be in existence on the server after a failure of the priv or pub in which case I should be able to do a no loss restore (previous nights store plus todays logfiles). Isn't that kind of the point of turning off circular logging in the first place -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Ook. - The Librarian. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
RE: Backups Checklist
Why, he'll use the NTBACKUP /IMEANIT switch of course! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Ook. - The Librarian. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource
RE: Backups Checklist
Yes, except that the restore will replay the log files for you automatically. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist Thanks for the feedback. I do have 3 physical arrays on 2 different controllers (1 with 2 channels) C: mirror - OS D: mirror - Logs E: Raid5 - DBs So it seems I can just do a full online backup of the stores via the exchange aware ntbackup. If I lose the store, I can put new disks in my raid5 array, restore the db and then play back my log files from D:. Thanks! Oh yeah, and FLUSH THOSE COMMITTED LOGS ;) he he - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List
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No, the answer is: Put your log files on a seperate set of spindles that you bought at a different time than the spindles the IS is on and you should be ok. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign... until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. -- Abraham Lincoln -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist you mean the one log file that is being written to at the time of the backup? Magic, of course! Hmmm Good question . . . Open File Agent? But then I need ArcServe or BE right? Do *you* know the answer? Besides an OFFLINE backup? LOL - Original Message - From: Drewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Ook. - The Librarian. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use
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It matters when you buy the drives? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist No, the answer is: Put your log files on a seperate set of spindles that you bought at a different time than the spindles the IS is on and you should be ok. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign... until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. -- Abraham Lincoln -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist you mean the one log file that is being written to at the time of the backup? Magic, of course! Hmmm Good question . . . Open File Agent? But then I need ArcServe or BE right? Do *you* know the answer? Besides an OFFLINE backup? LOL - Original Message - From: Drewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Again -- how are you going to back up the log files while they're in use? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Ook. - The Librarian. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mood, Steve Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist The point would be that if the priv or pub got trashed (assuming hardware failure of some sort on the drive with those files) while the system was running you could restore the priv or pub from the previous night and replay the current days log files that are on a different drive (recommended configuration) to get it back to its most current state. As I understand it. If you have a corrupt db that required you to go back several days you would not want to replay the log files as you would in essence replay the corruption. -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backups Checklist THANKS! That was a most excellent slide deck and answers most of my questions. Only other thing is: if I am then doing FULL ONLINE backups every night do I need to worry about turning off circular logging as I will be deleting the log files each night after they are backed up? Correct? - Original Message - From: Mood, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Backups Checklist And a cool PPT of the whole thing I found while confirming the log file thing (I was thinking of trying to replay the log files in event of longstanding corruption which would be a useless thing to do). I always work better with big pretty pictures. http://www.exchangeserverboston.com/archives/DBMgmt.ppt -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist If you are doing an online backup, why backup the log files? -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backups Checklist NTBackup in XCH2K recognizes an Exchange Install as it does in NT4. So if I backup System State, IS and DS through the Exchange Server Checkbox and then the drive with the log files I should be all set for a full restore no? The Exchange server folder on C:\ is all binaries right? I have those on C:, logfiles on D: and the stores on E:. Anything I am missing? I have never had to do a restore before but soon will have to for DR practice pursposes. Besides documentation on all my settings and options, am I missing anything all of you tried and true backup gurus know of? Did I mention I HATE BACKUPS!! TIA Chris Destiny...is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925); American lawyer and politician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com
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Proof! Vindication! :) Anyway, I haven't been in a position to build a real server for nearly a year (working remotely), so I haven't had to think about it lately... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist I've had that happen. The first ProLiant I got had the infamous Western Digital 2GB drives. Four of the five failed, although each at a different time so I never lost the RAID array! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one batch all failing at once or close to each-other. On the extremely off chance of that happening, I always loaded my servers with drives that had non-sequential serial numbers, if I had them... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law.- George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist It matters when you buy the drives? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist No, the answer is: Put your log files on a seperate set of spindles that you bought at a different time than the spindles the IS is on and you should be ok. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you for that update. But do you work remotely from the hottub, like Mr Miller? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Proof! Vindication! :) Anyway, I haven't been in a position to build a real server for nearly a year (working remotely), so I haven't had to think about it lately... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist I've had that happen. The first ProLiant I got had the infamous Western Digital 2GB drives. Four of the five failed, although each at a different time so I never lost the RAID array! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one batch all failing at once or close to each-other. On the extremely off chance of that happening, I always loaded my servers with drives that had non-sequential serial numbers, if I had them... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law.- George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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He's Ba-aack -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Thank you for that update. But do you work remotely from the hottub, like Mr Miller? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Proof! Vindication! :) Anyway, I haven't been in a position to build a real server for nearly a year (working remotely), so I haven't had to think about it lately... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist I've had that happen. The first ProLiant I got had the infamous Western Digital 2GB drives. Four of the five failed, although each at a different time so I never lost the RAID array! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one batch all failing at once or close to each-other. On the extremely off chance of that happening, I always loaded my servers with drives that had non-sequential serial numbers, if I had them... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law.- George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Alas, I have no hottub. But I do have broadband internet access. How you doin' with that, hoss? :P -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! 10 Reasons to Stop Bombing Afghanistan - http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11764 -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Thank you for that update. But do you work remotely from the hottub, like Mr Miller? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Proof! Vindication! :) Anyway, I haven't been in a position to build a real server for nearly a year (working remotely), so I haven't had to think about it lately... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist I've had that happen. The first ProLiant I got had the infamous Western Digital 2GB drives. Four of the five failed, although each at a different time so I never lost the RAID array! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist Well, I have heard of drives that were all from one batch all failing at once or close to each-other. On the extremely off chance of that happening, I always loaded my servers with drives that had non-sequential serial numbers, if I had them... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law.- George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backups Checklist _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
