RE: Domain used by Spammers

2003-02-10 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk
Been there, done that. Most ISP's don't bother.

However, check to see a domainname and find out who is hosting it. I had 
some success closing down the offenders website..


--B.

At 09:10 07-02-2003 -0800, you wrote:
trace the header ip's to track down the originator and get in contact with
the isp?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Domain used by Spammers




For the last few weeks I have been plagued by what I had originally
considered to be spam attacks. These were showing up as NDR's which I have
forwarded to my own mailbox for review. They were always some nonexistent
random alphanumeric user i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . This morning I had over one hundred of them
so decided to investigate further and see if there was way to screen them
out.

As it turns out, these are not emails being sent to me, but rather someone
is spamming using these random alphanumeric in the From field and the NDR's
are coming back to me from whoever is in the To field.

I re-tested my own exchange server to ensure that they were not relaying of
the Exchange server. I then telneted to my personal attbi.com mail server
and sent and email as a nonexistent user in my domain to a bogus mail
address. The attbi.com server promptly sent back and NDR to my domain.

I concerned about any implications of getting on any RBL lists. I guess I
would equate this to identity theft but have no how to address this serious
issue.

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Domain used by Spammers

2003-02-10 Thread Dave Vantine
I spent a considerable amount of time trying to trace the offenders. What is
strange is that although the bulk of it is coming from
http://digitaletics.tv (supposedly in Brazil). There are others coming from
what I believe to be Korea and Russia. Each of them appears to be using a
randomly generated user name against our legitimate domain. I guess I am
wondering if these companies have contracted with some 3rd party to do bulk
mailing which to some degree is not their fault.

The digitaletics website only offers a email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
to contact them and it does appear to be valid as there is a mail server at
the site as well. The others don't even supply any type of contact
information. I had considered forwarding all the bounced mail to that
address but would rather resolve it in a more agreeable fashion.

I also have started receiving some nasty emails within these NDR's about our
spamming practices and am possibly anticipating some how getting
blacklisted.

I sent an email with a copy of the emails to what I believe is the ISP of
record in Brazil but have not heard any response. I had considered calling
the ISP's phone number but I am wondering the chances of someone speaking
English. 

-Dave Vantine

-Original Message-
From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Domain used by Spammers


Been there, done that. Most ISP's don't bother.

However, check to see a domainname and find out who is hosting it. I had 
some success closing down the offenders website..


--B.

At 09:10 07-02-2003 -0800, you wrote:
trace the header ip's to track down the originator and get in contact 
with the isp?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Domain used by Spammers




For the last few weeks I have been plagued by what I had originally 
considered to be spam attacks. These were showing up as NDR's which I 
have forwarded to my own mailbox for review. They were always some 
nonexistent random alphanumeric user i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . This morning I had over one hundred of 
them so decided to investigate further and see if there was way to 
screen them out.

As it turns out, these are not emails being sent to me, but rather 
someone is spamming using these random alphanumeric in the From field 
and the NDR's are coming back to me from whoever is in the To field.

I re-tested my own exchange server to ensure that they were not 
relaying of the Exchange server. I then telneted to my personal 
attbi.com mail server and sent and email as a nonexistent user in my 
domain to a bogus mail address. The attbi.com server promptly sent back 
and NDR to my domain.

I concerned about any implications of getting on any RBL lists. I guess 
I would equate this to identity theft but have no how to address this 
serious issue.

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Domain used by Spammers

2003-02-07 Thread Johnny Martinez
trace the header ip's to track down the originator and get in contact with
the isp?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 7:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Domain used by Spammers




For the last few weeks I have been plagued by what I had originally
considered to be spam attacks. These were showing up as NDR's which I have
forwarded to my own mailbox for review. They were always some nonexistent
random alphanumeric user i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . This morning I had over one hundred of them
so decided to investigate further and see if there was way to screen them
out.
 
As it turns out, these are not emails being sent to me, but rather someone
is spamming using these random alphanumeric in the From field and the NDR's
are coming back to me from whoever is in the To field. 
 
I re-tested my own exchange server to ensure that they were not relaying of
the Exchange server. I then telneted to my personal attbi.com mail server
and sent and email as a nonexistent user in my domain to a bogus mail
address. The attbi.com server promptly sent back and NDR to my domain.
 
I concerned about any implications of getting on any RBL lists. I guess I
would equate this to identity theft but have no how to address this serious
issue.
 
Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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