RE: Editing Inbox Contents
Skive: 'To evade one's work or duty, esp. out of laziness' (Penguin Pocket English Dictionary) Obviously just a British word... Tris -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 September 2001 21:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Editing Inbox Contents There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. I don't really see how it's any different than if they compose their e-mail in Notepad, then cut and pasted it later. What is the real worry? Please provide a scenario. What does skive mean? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, we've just moved a load of users onto outlook 2001 (mac) from OE5. They're not too happy because of missing features and no easy migration tools, but hey ho. The admin at one site has raised the point that in outlook, as with the pc version, you can edit and save messages in the inbox. He's worried people will abuse this feature to forge dishonest email to help them skive off and generally get away with stuff at work. I'm sure there's no way to restrict this, but how would you handle this one with the powers-that-be, should they be concerned? cheers dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Editing Inbox Contents
hi ed, i don't see a problem with editing inbox contents, in fact i find it to be a useful feature. however, one of our site managers expressed the opinion that someone could falsify the contents of a recieved message (say from a customer) in order to get away with something. What does skive mean? sorry, english slang here. Skiving (sky-ving) means not doing any work, or not even turning up for work 'Where's the admin gone, is he skiving off somewhere?' 'I'm so tired after last night, I might skive off work today'. dan. There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. I don't really see how it's any different than if they compose their e-mail in Notepad, then cut and pasted it later. What is the real worry? Please provide a scenario. What does skive mean? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, we've just moved a load of users onto outlook 2001 (mac) from OE5. They're not too happy because of missing features and no easy migration tools, but hey ho. The admin at one site has raised the point that in outlook, as with the pc version, you can edit and save messages in the inbox. He's worried people will abuse this feature to forge dishonest email to help them skive off and generally get away with stuff at work. I'm sure there's no way to restrict this, but how would you handle this one with the powers-that-be, should they be concerned? cheers dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Editing Inbox Contents
on the contrary, i'm not worried in the least. i just wanted some feedback from other exchange admins on how they may respond to such a concern from their managers. in fact, your comments are much the same as what I've already sent to the manager in question. dan. I think you are needlessly worrying about editing received messages. Certainly it is possible. My experience has shown that almost all employees are looking to contribute to the company/dept/organization. When some user changes a message, it will most likely be discovered or challenged. Compare the message to the one in the sent items folder of the original sender. Then let management deal with the incident. Michael Herrick Groton CIT Messaging Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] customer) in order to get away with something. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Editing Inbox Contents
The modified date is changed in that case. Ed Crowley Compaq Computer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Editing Inbox Contents hi ed, i don't see a problem with editing inbox contents, in fact i find it to be a useful feature. however, one of our site managers expressed the opinion that someone could falsify the contents of a recieved message (say from a customer) in order to get away with something. What does skive mean? sorry, english slang here. Skiving (sky-ving) means not doing any work, or not even turning up for work 'Where's the admin gone, is he skiving off somewhere?' 'I'm so tired after last night, I might skive off work today'. dan. There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. I don't really see how it's any different than if they compose their e-mail in Notepad, then cut and pasted it later. What is the real worry? Please provide a scenario. What does skive mean? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, we've just moved a load of users onto outlook 2001 (mac) from OE5. They're not too happy because of missing features and no easy migration tools, but hey ho. The admin at one site has raised the point that in outlook, as with the pc version, you can edit and save messages in the inbox. He's worried people will abuse this feature to forge dishonest email to help them skive off and generally get away with stuff at work. I'm sure there's no way to restrict this, but how would you handle this one with the powers-that-be, should they be concerned? cheers dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Editing Inbox Contents
If the staff are not trusted that much then they shouldn't be there (or the admin, for being so untrusting). Let the bosses decide what to do with staff if they do this and not worry about fixing the cause (after all, they could use Word to send themselves memos..) Tris -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 September 2001 16:50 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Editing Inbox Contents hi all, we've just moved a load of users onto outlook 2001 (mac) from OE5. They're not too happy because of missing features and no easy migration tools, but hey ho. The admin at one site has raised the point that in outlook, as with the pc version, you can edit and save messages in the inbox. He's worried people will abuse this feature to forge dishonest email to help them skive off and generally get away with stuff at work. I'm sure there's no way to restrict this, but how would you handle this one with the powers-that-be, should they be concerned? cheers dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Editing Inbox Contents
thanks for your comments - my thoughts exactly! dan. If the staff are not trusted that much then they shouldn't be there (or the admin, for being so untrusting). Let the bosses decide what to do with staff if they do this and not worry about fixing the cause (after all, they could use Word to send themselves memos..) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Editing Inbox Contents
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. I don't really see how it's any different than if they compose their e-mail in Notepad, then cut and pasted it later. What is the real worry? Please provide a scenario. What does skive mean? Ed Crowley Compaq Computer --- Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, we've just moved a load of users onto outlook 2001 (mac) from OE5. They're not too happy because of missing features and no easy migration tools, but hey ho. The admin at one site has raised the point that in outlook, as with the pc version, you can edit and save messages in the inbox. He's worried people will abuse this feature to forge dishonest email to help them skive off and generally get away with stuff at work. I'm sure there's no way to restrict this, but how would you handle this one with the powers-that-be, should they be concerned? cheers dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
