RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-29 Thread Amit Zinman

Ooh, I like horror books.

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I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-29 Thread Joe D. Llewelyn

I'm waiting eagerly for publication :-)

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Ooh, I like horror books.

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I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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Re: Exchange clustering

2001-10-27 Thread Mark Hanji

Even for EX2000?

Thanks.

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 I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?
 
 Ed Crowley
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 Hi all,
 
 New to the group however I've been watching for some time.
 
 This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
 the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.
 
 Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
 I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
 full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.
 
 Regards,
 
 Joe
 
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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-27 Thread Kevin Miller

Is even worse in exchange 2k.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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Even for EX2000?

Thanks.

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 I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?
 
 Ed Crowley
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 New to the group however I've been watching for some time.
 
 This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information 
 regarding the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.
 
 Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or 
 book? I've searched high and low on various search engines but just 
 get sites full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.
 
 Regards,
 
 Joe
 
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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-27 Thread David Strome

because of the user limit or another reason? 

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Is even worse in exchange 2k.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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Even for EX2000?

Thanks.

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 I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?
 
 Ed Crowley
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 Hi all,
 
 New to the group however I've been watching for some time.
 
 This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information 
 regarding the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.
 
 Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or 
 book? I've searched high and low on various search engines but just 
 get sites full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.
 
 Regards,
 
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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-27 Thread Kevin Miller

There is that wonderful built in error in the core processor of Exchange
in the active active cluster.

It is just a waste of hardware. Getting a separate second server would
be much better.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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because of the user limit or another reason? 

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Is even worse in exchange 2k.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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Even for EX2000?

Thanks.

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 I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?
 
 Ed Crowley
 Compaq Computer
 
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 This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information
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 book? I've searched high and low on various search engines but just 
 get sites full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.
 
 Regards,
 
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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-26 Thread Ed Crowley

Well, I was speaking to Exchange 2000 clusters.  It's a no-brainer that a
cost-benefit analysis looks pretty damn good when the computer is free.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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I disagree w/ most postings on this list in regards to Clustering, I have
gotten 2K Clustering to work just fine, now there are some issues w/ cost
but I just happen to get a free Compaq CL server.
M$ has a great white paper on HOW TO: install Exchange 2K Sp1. Also gives
some great reference articles in there. Other than that I hope you have a
friend who has a site on it, I know of nothing else.

-John Q

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Being a man of wisdom, perhaps expand on that?

I'm only really interested in it - I look after a system which someone
else set up. Would like to learn it myself for future reference that's
all.

Thanks

Joe

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I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Joe D. Llewelyn

Sander,

Many thanks for your reply. I'm looking at it now and I'll report back
:-)

All the best

Joe

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Hi Joe

Try this link for some info on Exchange 2000 Clusters.
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG246265.html

Hope this helps

Regards

Sander

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I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
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Regards,

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Re: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Ed Crowley

I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Joe D. Llewelyn

Being a man of wisdom, perhaps expand on that?

I'm only really interested in it - I look after a system which someone
else set up. Would like to learn it myself for future reference that's
all.

Thanks

Joe

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering

I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
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Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Grupe, Robert

Hi Joe:

Here's some links you may find useful...

*   MS Exchange 2000 Clustering
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechn
ol/exchange/deploy/depovg/exonclus.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtech
nol/exchange/deploy/depovg/exonclus.asp  
*   Installing Microsoft Exchange 2000 with Windows Clustering
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechn
ol/exchange/proddocs/ex2kplan/c20clust.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtech
nol/exchange/proddocs/ex2kplan/c20clust.asp  
*   Installing Microsoft Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2000 Cluster:
Step-by-Step Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/exonclus.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/exonclus.asp  

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Subject:Exchange clustering

Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek
information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they
web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but
just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe


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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Edgington, Jeff

Additionally MS has a pretty good step-by-step guide.

'Installing Microsoft Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2000 Cluster:Step-by-Step
Guide'
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechn
ol/exchange/deploy/depovg/exonclus.asp

Also may want to look at 'Step-by-Step Guide to Installing Cluster Service'
(sorry, don't have the URL for this one)

Both are white-papers... 

jeff e.


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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding the
clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book? I've
searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites full of
mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Osborn, Joel

Boy, that would be a short book. More like a greeting card. 8-{)

...Jole

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I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
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I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Mike Morrison

Can I get an autographed copy? I'm guessing it's only going to need to be
postcard sized... :-)

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


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I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

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Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Edgington, Jeff

Interesting you should say that... I am grappling with this issue right
now... the rest of my organization is pushing for Exchange on clustering...
from what I have been able to gather it really only protects you from
hardware failures and adds another layer of complication to the server...
can you give me some excerpts from this 'upcoming book'?

Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding the
clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book? I've
searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites full of
mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Andy David

Probably about the size of a IC coupon I would think...

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Can I get an autographed copy? I'm guessing it's only going to need to be
postcard sized... :-)

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Mike Morrison

Ed has pretty eloquently expressed his opinions on this subject in the past
(as have others on both sides of the issue), so it is well documented in the
archives. Simpler-Webb can provide you with a copy of the archives for a
nominal fee: the info on ordering it is in the FAQ.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
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Being a man of wisdom, perhaps expand on that?

I'm only really interested in it - I look after a system which someone
else set up. Would like to learn it myself for future reference that's
all.

Thanks

Joe

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 October 2001 08:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering

I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Joe D. Llewelyn

Thanks to all for your input. It is most appreciated :-)

I'm actually researching it both for myself and for an idea based around
running exchange and doing some wild and wacky things with it.

The system is being designed to take some serious load. I think the team
are under the impression that to handle a huge amount of users and
transactions more than one server is needed. Is this a logical approach
or are they being muppets?

Cheers

Joe!

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 14:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Interesting you should say that... I am grappling with this issue right
now... the rest of my organization is pushing for Exchange on
clustering...
from what I have been able to gather it really only protects you from
hardware failures and adds another layer of complication to the
server...
can you give me some excerpts from this 'upcoming book'?

Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:49 PM
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Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the
clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've
searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites full
of
mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Andy David

It depends...More info would be needed and of course it also depends on who
the muppets are (I worry about Bert and Ernie myself)

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Thanks to all for your input. It is most appreciated :-)

I'm actually researching it both for myself and for an idea based around
running exchange and doing some wild and wacky things with it.

The system is being designed to take some serious load. I think the team
are under the impression that to handle a huge amount of users and
transactions more than one server is needed. Is this a logical approach
or are they being muppets?

Cheers

Joe!

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 14:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Interesting you should say that... I am grappling with this issue right
now... the rest of my organization is pushing for Exchange on
clustering...
from what I have been able to gather it really only protects you from
hardware failures and adds another layer of complication to the
server...
can you give me some excerpts from this 'upcoming book'?

Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the
clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've
searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites full
of
mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Joe D. Llewelyn

Hi Andy,

I'm not entirely sure - it's very technical however I hope to have a
rough idea of the system components with regard to Exchange by tomorrow.
I'll add them to this thread and see if anyone understands, because I
probably will not :-)

All the best

Joe!

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From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 14:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


It depends...More info would be needed and of course it also depends on
who
the muppets are (I worry about Bert and Ernie myself)

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Joe D. Llewelyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Thanks to all for your input. It is most appreciated :-)

I'm actually researching it both for myself and for an idea based around
running exchange and doing some wild and wacky things with it.

The system is being designed to take some serious load. I think the team
are under the impression that to handle a huge amount of users and
transactions more than one server is needed. Is this a logical approach
or are they being muppets?

Cheers

Joe!

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 14:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Interesting you should say that... I am grappling with this issue right
now... the rest of my organization is pushing for Exchange on
clustering...
from what I have been able to gather it really only protects you from
hardware failures and adds another layer of complication to the
server...
can you give me some excerpts from this 'upcoming book'?

Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the
clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've
searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites full
of
mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Hunter, Lori

You can use multiple servers without clustering.  That's the way I would go
if I had the choice.

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From: Joe D. Llewelyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Thanks to all for your input. It is most appreciated :-)

I'm actually researching it both for myself and for an idea based around
running exchange and doing some wild and wacky things with it.

The system is being designed to take some serious load. I think the team
are under the impression that to handle a huge amount of users and
transactions more than one server is needed. Is this a logical approach
or are they being muppets?

Cheers

Joe!

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 14:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Interesting you should say that... I am grappling with this issue right
now... the rest of my organization is pushing for Exchange on
clustering...
from what I have been able to gather it really only protects you from
hardware failures and adds another layer of complication to the
server...
can you give me some excerpts from this 'upcoming book'?

Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:49 PM
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Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the
clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've
searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites full
of
mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Hunter, Lori

I'd heartily endorse that book.

I think most people really believe you can install service packs on the
offline side to make sure you don't blow up in production.

This is a fallacy.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Can I get an autographed copy? I'm guessing it's only going to need to be
postcard sized... :-)

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread Mike Morrison

Sorry, Lori... I forgot to mention that you had plenty of horror stories
documented in the archives as well! :-)

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


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From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


I'd heartily endorse that book.

I think most people really believe you can install service packs on the
offline side to make sure you don't blow up in production.

This is a fallacy.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Can I get an autographed copy? I'm guessing it's only going to need to be
postcard sized... :-)

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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Re: Exchange clustering

2001-10-25 Thread John Q

I disagree w/ most postings on this list in regards to Clustering, I have
gotten 2K Clustering to work just fine, now there are some issues w/ cost
but I just happen to get a free Compaq CL server.
M$ has a great white paper on HOW TO: install Exchange 2K Sp1. Also gives
some great reference articles in there. Other than that I hope you have a
friend who has a site on it, I know of nothing else.

-John Q

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From: Joe D. Llewelyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange clustering


Being a man of wisdom, perhaps expand on that?

I'm only really interested in it - I look after a system which someone
else set up. Would like to learn it myself for future reference that's
all.

Thanks

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 October 2001 08:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering

I'm planning my first book, Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Exchange clustering

2001-10-24 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar

Hi Joe

Try this link for some info on Exchange 2000 Clusters.
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG246265.html

Hope this helps

Regards

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Joe D. Llewelyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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