RE: Failed delivery
We've also had problems with incoming messages from mailing lists generated by Mailman etc. The logs of the sending server show them being delivered to our ES 5.5 server, and message tracking indicates that they have been delivered to the correct mailboxes. They then appear in some mailboxes correctly, but not in others. I've tried using the Exchange Client to search for the message with no result. We've also had situations where a message (either from within or outside our organisation) is sent to multiple outside mailing lists on multiple outside servers. If one of our users is on more than one of these lists then they receive only one copy of the message - it's as if some form of de-duplication is taking place somewhere. By the way, this latter behaviour also seems to occur in other related organisations who are on the same mailing lists. They all use ES (various versions) as far as I am aware. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Watkins V Sent: 27 February 2003 17:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Failed delivery Absolutely nothing!! For the smpt logs. I'll switch message tracking on, Vanessa -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery What do SMTP logging and message tracking on the Exchange server indicate? On 2/27/03 9:09, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a problem because there aren't any being received. Tests from the list server machine indicate a positive helo and response, so no obvious smtp problem!! -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery Perhaps if you posted a sample DNR... On 2/27/03 8:49, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We have a situation where exchange 5.5 users are subscribed to a list as supplied by a unix listmanager. When a message is sent to this list, there are 240 members, there always seem to be a number of failures, which appear to be random. Any ideas why? I have looked for events in the logs after switching on all logging for mta, is, transport etc, but nothing useful. They are not over their mailbox limit, they do not all have inbox rules, so I am baffled. Ex5.5 sp4 plus fixes, NT 4etc thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway, University of London Tel: 01784 443728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Failed delivery
Perhaps if you posted a sample DNR... On 2/27/03 8:49, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We have a situation where exchange 5.5 users are subscribed to a list as supplied by a unix listmanager. When a message is sent to this list, there are 240 members, there always seem to be a number of failures, which appear to be random. Any ideas why? I have looked for events in the logs after switching on all logging for mta, is, transport etc, but nothing useful. They are not over their mailbox limit, they do not all have inbox rules, so I am baffled. Ex5.5 sp4 plus fixes, NT 4etc thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway, University of London Tel: 01784 443728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Failed delivery
That's a problem because there aren't any being received. Tests from the list server machine indicate a positive helo and response, so no obvious smtp problem!! -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery Perhaps if you posted a sample DNR... On 2/27/03 8:49, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We have a situation where exchange 5.5 users are subscribed to a list as supplied by a unix listmanager. When a message is sent to this list, there are 240 members, there always seem to be a number of failures, which appear to be random. Any ideas why? I have looked for events in the logs after switching on all logging for mta, is, transport etc, but nothing useful. They are not over their mailbox limit, they do not all have inbox rules, so I am baffled. Ex5.5 sp4 plus fixes, NT 4etc thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway, University of London Tel: 01784 443728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Failed delivery
I thought you can only use a dnr on ER? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery Perhaps if you posted a sample DNR... On 2/27/03 8:49, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We have a situation where exchange 5.5 users are subscribed to a list as supplied by a unix listmanager. When a message is sent to this list, there are 240 members, there always seem to be a number of failures, which appear to be random. Any ideas why? I have looked for events in the logs after switching on all logging for mta, is, transport etc, but nothing useful. They are not over their mailbox limit, they do not all have inbox rules, so I am baffled. Ex5.5 sp4 plus fixes, NT 4etc thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway, University of London Tel: 01784 443728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Failed delivery
What do SMTP logging and message tracking on the Exchange server indicate? On 2/27/03 9:09, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a problem because there aren't any being received. Tests from the list server machine indicate a positive helo and response, so no obvious smtp problem!! -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery Perhaps if you posted a sample DNR... On 2/27/03 8:49, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We have a situation where exchange 5.5 users are subscribed to a list as supplied by a unix listmanager. When a message is sent to this list, there are 240 members, there always seem to be a number of failures, which appear to be random. Any ideas why? I have looked for events in the logs after switching on all logging for mta, is, transport etc, but nothing useful. They are not over their mailbox limit, they do not all have inbox rules, so I am baffled. Ex5.5 sp4 plus fixes, NT 4etc thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway, University of London Tel: 01784 443728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Failed delivery
I've had a few desktops I wanted a DNR for. -Patrick R. Sweeney http://boston.craigslist.org/bos/res/8484283.html - Original Message - From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: RE: Failed delivery I thought you can only use a dnr on ER? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery Perhaps if you posted a sample DNR... On 2/27/03 8:49, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We have a situation where exchange 5.5 users are subscribed to a list as supplied by a unix listmanager. When a message is sent to this list, there are 240 members, there always seem to be a number of failures, which appear to be random. Any ideas why? I have looked for events in the logs after switching on all logging for mta, is, transport etc, but nothing useful. They are not over their mailbox limit, they do not all have inbox rules, so I am baffled. Ex5.5 sp4 plus fixes, NT 4etc thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway, University of London Tel: 01784 443728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Failed delivery
Absolutely nothing!! For the smpt logs. I'll switch message tracking on, Vanessa -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery What do SMTP logging and message tracking on the Exchange server indicate? On 2/27/03 9:09, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a problem because there aren't any being received. Tests from the list server machine indicate a positive helo and response, so no obvious smtp problem!! -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Failed delivery Perhaps if you posted a sample DNR... On 2/27/03 8:49, Watkins V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, We have a situation where exchange 5.5 users are subscribed to a list as supplied by a unix listmanager. When a message is sent to this list, there are 240 members, there always seem to be a number of failures, which appear to be random. Any ideas why? I have looked for events in the logs after switching on all logging for mta, is, transport etc, but nothing useful. They are not over their mailbox limit, they do not all have inbox rules, so I am baffled. Ex5.5 sp4 plus fixes, NT 4etc thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway, University of London Tel: 01784 443728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
