RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space
I set the Exchange option to FULL. I went back out there on Friday. I shut down Exchange gracefully, and checked the logs. Everything was flushed. I nuked the logs and restarted Exchange. Everything is working fine now. I tweaked BENT a little in hopes that an error about writing catalogs disappears. Thanks to all for the refresher info. Much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:16 PM To: 'Exchange Discussions' Subject: Re: Flusing log files - almost out of space How exactly did you set the logs to flush in BE? Verify that job method for Exchange (Tools/Options) and the job itself is set for a full online backup. - Original Message - From: Pat Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space Yep. BENT 8.x with the Exchange agent. But it appears it was only flushing the logs on Fridays. Well, last Friday's job didn't finish because it couldn't write the catalog to the drive (due to space). BENT shows the job as successful, but there's an entry in the app log about the catalog failure. That's what makes me think that's why it couldn't flush. I set the daily BU jobs to also flush, but it (apparently) didn't do this on Monday night. I'm heading back there to look at these possible causes/resolutions: XADM: Using Eseutil to Determine Which Logs Have Been Committed http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;182961 XADM: How to Recover from a Full Transaction Log File Drive http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;259751 XADM: How to Tell Which Transaction Log Files Can Be Safely Removed http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;240145 Thanks for the input so far! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Marriott Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:31 AM To: 'Exchange Discussions' Subject: RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space If a full BU is not removing the logs you need to find out why. ? BU software ? Exchange aware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pat Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com
RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space
Pat, You need to check the header info (/mk) to see up to which log files have been committed and remove the ones before only. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Pat Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2003 16:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (6) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flusing log files - almost out of space
Verify that you are doing a full backup. If you cant get it to work with BE, try doing a full online backup with NTBACKUP. - Original Message - From: Pat Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space
If a full BU is not removing the logs you need to find out why. ? BU software ? Exchange aware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pat Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space
Have a look at KB 259751. Also, a full successful backup will clear the logs, but maybe you should think about having BE on a different drive - its logs can get mighty big. Along with the store, the transaction log drive is the ultimate in Exchange - you should protect both of these drives from other apps and files as much as you can so that this very scenario doesn't happen again. Tris - Tristan Gayford Deputy Systems Network Manager Cranfield University at Silsoe -Original Message- From: Pat Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 February 2003 16:03 To: Exchange Discussions NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flusing log files - almost out of space
If you stopped the Exchange services cleanly then the transaction logs are committed to the database. That does not solve the problem with a backup not purging the logs. - Original Message - From: Pat Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space
Yep. BENT 8.x with the Exchange agent. But it appears it was only flushing the logs on Fridays. Well, last Friday's job didn't finish because it couldn't write the catalog to the drive (due to space). BENT shows the job as successful, but there's an entry in the app log about the catalog failure. That's what makes me think that's why it couldn't flush. I set the daily BU jobs to also flush, but it (apparently) didn't do this on Monday night. I'm heading back there to look at these possible causes/resolutions: XADM: Using Eseutil to Determine Which Logs Have Been Committed http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;182961 XADM: How to Recover from a Full Transaction Log File Drive http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;259751 XADM: How to Tell Which Transaction Log Files Can Be Safely Removed http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;240145 Thanks for the input so far! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Marriott Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:31 AM To: 'Exchange Discussions' Subject: RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space If a full BU is not removing the logs you need to find out why. ? BU software ? Exchange aware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pat Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space
Do a full backup using NTBACKUP to flush the log files. -kevin -Original Message- From: Pat Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:03 AM Posted To: Exchange Conversation: Flusing log files - almost out of space Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flusing log files - almost out of space
How exactly did you set the logs to flush in BE? Verify that job method for Exchange (Tools/Options) and the job itself is set for a full online backup. - Original Message - From: Pat Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space Yep. BENT 8.x with the Exchange agent. But it appears it was only flushing the logs on Fridays. Well, last Friday's job didn't finish because it couldn't write the catalog to the drive (due to space). BENT shows the job as successful, but there's an entry in the app log about the catalog failure. That's what makes me think that's why it couldn't flush. I set the daily BU jobs to also flush, but it (apparently) didn't do this on Monday night. I'm heading back there to look at these possible causes/resolutions: XADM: Using Eseutil to Determine Which Logs Have Been Committed http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;182961 XADM: How to Recover from a Full Transaction Log File Drive http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;259751 XADM: How to Tell Which Transaction Log Files Can Be Safely Removed http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;240145 Thanks for the input so far! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Marriott Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:31 AM To: 'Exchange Discussions' Subject: RE: Flusing log files - almost out of space If a full BU is not removing the logs you need to find out why. ? BU software ? Exchange aware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pat Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Flusing log files - almost out of space NT 4 SP6 (I think) Ex 5.5 SP4 - single org, site, server One problem led to many others. Drive with the log files (also the system drive) ran low on space, so the MTA stopped. I cleared some stuff off the drive to get up to 150MB. MTA started, and it's working. The disk space problem also caused BENT to not run correctly because it couldn't write the catalog to the disk (space was down to 7MB when I got there on Monday). I believe that this caused the Exchange logs to not get flushed. The logs now comprise 3GB of space (and growing). One successful backup has run since, but again, the logs aren't flushed. My question is (to refresh my memory)... Can I stop Exchange, copy the logs to another drive for archiving, then kill the originals, and restart Exchange? If I recall, it should recreate new log files, correct? (I'm making the assumption that the transactions in the logs are committed). It looks like the drive that the store is on has plenty of space (including enough to defrag the store, etc). All services are running fine. But obviously, I need to clear those logs, and want to make sure it's how I remember it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
