RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-13 Thread Hutchins, Mike
On a side note, how about those ihatespam shirts? :-) 


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From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:39 AM
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Thanks Bob...this is exactly why I would never install a 3rd party
product on the e2k server itself

-Original Message-
From: Bob Jiantonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Look out for this if you UN install GFI Mail Essentials:
http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001683

Bob
Sunbelt Software

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.
I'm evaling using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which
receives then relays mail to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a
.net server configured as a standalone.  I've found no messages in my
badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists have proved
successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people
were having trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied
from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little
different. All email sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to
badmail. Anything sent to a distribution list from Outlook Express or
any other exchange client works fine. It is very strange. I contacted
GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to contact them
about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi
mail essentials 8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not
distributed but ends up in the badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr
files always read 'error is processing file in pickup directory', no
other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do have
valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is
with regard to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable
in this case, this is beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole
business, please bear with me if I forgot to include necessary
information and just let me know. I'll try to post everything that's
needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Depends on who was wearing them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


On a side note, how about those ihatespam shirts? :-) 


-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Thanks Bob...this is exactly why I would never install a 3rd party product
on the e2k server itself

-Original Message-
From: Bob Jiantonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Look out for this if you UN install GFI Mail Essentials:
http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001683

Bob
Sunbelt Software

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval. I'm
evaling using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which receives
then relays mail to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a .net server
configured as a standalone.  I've found no messages in my badmail folder and
testing sending to distribution lists have proved successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people
were having trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied from
that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little different.
All email sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to badmail.
Anything sent to a distribution list from Outlook Express or any other
exchange client works fine. It is very strange. I contacted GFI, and they
said this is a known issue. Have you tried to contact them about this
problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi mail
essentials 8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not distributed
but ends up in the badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr files always read
'error is processing file in pickup directory', no other error code or
number is visible. The mails in question do have valid 'from:' and 'to:'
addresses. Since all I found on this topic is with regard to using cdonts
and therefore (presumeably) not applicable in this case, this is beyond me.
Since I am quite new to this whole business, please bear with me if I forgot
to include necessary information and just let me know. I'll try to post
everything that's needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
I have nothing to complain about!  I've been evaling for about a month...only 3 false 
positives thus far.  Easy to configure, self maintainable whitelists if mail is 
configured to route out through MailEssentials. 3 levels of detection that are 
customizablebeautiful product 

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials


All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Jasa, Ken
Thanks for taking the time to reply Casey. 
How much spam do you think is still sneaking through?

Ken

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:01 AM
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I have nothing to complain about!  I've been evaling for about a
month...only 3 false positives thus far.  Easy to configure, self
maintainable whitelists if mail is configured to route out through
MailEssentials. 3 levels of detection that are customizablebeautiful
product 

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials


All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
A pretty good guess is all I have.  Monitoring before/after filtering showed that mail 
received by my E2K server dropped by 35% when counting incoming messages during the 
same time frames.

I could go back through the monitor window that is installed with the product and 
look.  The monitor window shows every message received by the MailEssentials Gateway.

Further more, you can configure custom NDR's for messages deemed as spam by 
MailEssentials.  You can also configure disclaimers for outbound mail and you can set 
up to have messages that are considered spam sent to an e-mail address..like a public 
folder.



-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Thanks for taking the time to reply Casey. 
How much spam do you think is still sneaking through?

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have nothing to complain about!  I've been evaling for about a
month...only 3 false positives thus far.  Easy to configure, self
maintainable whitelists if mail is configured to route out through
MailEssentials. 3 levels of detection that are customizablebeautiful
product 

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials


All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Bill Kuhl
I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people were having 
trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little different. All email 
sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to badmail. Anything sent to a 
distribution list from Outlook Express or any other exchange client works fine. It is 
very strange. I contacted GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to 
contact them about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi mail essentials 
8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not distributed but ends up in the 
badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr files always read 'error is processing file in 
pickup directory', no other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do 
have valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is with regard 
to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable in this case, this is 
beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole business, please bear with me if I 
forgot to include necessary information and just let me know. I'll try to post 
everything that's needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.  I'm evaling 
using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which receives then relays mail 
to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a .net server configured as a standalone.  
I've found no messages in my badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists 
have proved successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people were having 
trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little different. All email 
sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to badmail. Anything sent to a 
distribution list from Outlook Express or any other exchange client works fine. It is 
very strange. I contacted GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to 
contact them about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi mail essentials 
8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not distributed but ends up in the 
badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr files always read 'error is processing file in 
pickup directory', no other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do 
have valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is with regard 
to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable in this case, this is 
beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole business, please bear with me if I 
forgot to include necessary information and just let me know. I'll try to post 
everything that's needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Bob Jiantonio
Look out for this if you UN install GFI Mail Essentials:
http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001683

Bob
Sunbelt Software

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.
I'm evaling using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which
receives then relays mail to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a
.net server configured as a standalone.  I've found no messages in my
badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists have proved
successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people
were having trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied
from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little
different. All email sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to
badmail. Anything sent to a distribution list from Outlook Express or
any other exchange client works fine. It is very strange. I contacted
GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to contact them
about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi
mail essentials 8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not
distributed but ends up in the badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr
files always read 'error is processing file in pickup directory', no
other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do have
valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is
with regard to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable
in this case, this is beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole
business, please bear with me if I forgot to include necessary
information and just let me know. I'll try to post everything that's
needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Bill Kuhl
This is not first hand experience, just what I saw searching through a discussion 
group. Maybe it  is an installation issue. 

Bill 

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From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.  I'm evaling 
using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which receives then relays mail 
to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a .net server configured as a standalone.  
I've found no messages in my badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists 
have proved successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people were having 
trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little different. All email 
sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to badmail. Anything sent to a 
distribution list from Outlook Express or any other exchange client works fine. It is 
very strange. I contacted GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to 
contact them about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi mail essentials 
8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not distributed but ends up in the 
badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr files always read 'error is processing file in 
pickup directory', no other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do 
have valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is with regard 
to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable in this case, this is 
beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole business, please bear with me if I 
forgot to include necessary information and just let me know. I'll try to post 
everything that's needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
Thanks Bob...this is exactly why I would never install a 3rd party product on the e2k 
server itself

-Original Message-
From: Bob Jiantonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Look out for this if you UN install GFI Mail Essentials:
http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001683

Bob
Sunbelt Software

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.
I'm evaling using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which
receives then relays mail to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a
.net server configured as a standalone.  I've found no messages in my
badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists have proved
successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people
were having trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied
from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little
different. All email sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to
badmail. Anything sent to a distribution list from Outlook Express or
any other exchange client works fine. It is very strange. I contacted
GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to contact them
about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi
mail essentials 8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not
distributed but ends up in the badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr
files always read 'error is processing file in pickup directory', no
other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do have
valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is
with regard to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable
in this case, this is beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole
business, please bear with me if I forgot to include necessary
information and just let me know. I'll try to post everything that's
needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Peter Orlowski
We use it and have been fairly happy with it.  One problem that we do have
with it is its Delete and Notify of banned attachments feature.  It deletes
the mail but doesn't bother to notify the intended recipient.

- Peter

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From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials

All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-09 Thread Peter Orlowski
We use it and have been fairly happy with it.  One problem that we do have
with it is its Delete and Notify of banned attachments feature.  It deletes
the mail but doesn't bother to notify the intended recipient.

- Peter

-Original Message-
From: Jasa, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: GFI MailEssentials

All, 

Part of our company is interested in using this product. I would appreciate
hearing some opinions of the product- particularly the spam portion.

Thanks.

Ken Jasa
Messaging Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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