RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
I don't think our illustrious IT1 will be able to set up a new machine. Configurations on Navy ships are rather fixed. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. This could be done with a separate machine that receives mail for your domain and only relays valid addresses to you. In order to help with the bandwidth problem, this machine would have to be somewhere that did not have a bandwidth limitation. Tom -Original Message- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. - UPDA TE
My Black hole fix seems to be doing a pretty good job. So far, I have 97 email addresses added to it and I'm adding more as I receive the Unknown Recipient messages. I temporarily added myself as a member of the distro list so that I can put some numbers out there and actually see what kind of daily savings I'll be getting. In the past 24 hours, the black hole list has received 306 emails totaling 1293K, so it saved me at least that much from being transmitted back out. Thanks again for all your help. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer System Administrator/Network Analyst Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also set a small size limit on it. That brings up another question: If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange deny the email when it receives the header information or does it download the whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the header information, that would be great. Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of anything would work in that regards with your situation. Like Andy said, be careful out there. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
I would remove the size limit for your blackhole recipients. If a message NDR's due to size it will be sent back to the sender with the rejection message AND the complete original message and attachment(s). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also set a small size limit on it. That brings up another question: If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange deny the email when it receives the header information or does it download the whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the header information, that would be great. Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of anything would work in that regards with your situation. Like Andy said, be careful out there. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think this will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
Now remember, this is a Distribution List with no members, so I dont necessarily see a reason to set message size limits myself, otherwise it will generate NDRs if a message is larger than what you have specified.. When the emails come in to this DL, they will vaporize. - Original Message - From: Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also set a small size limit on it. That brings up another question: If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange deny the email when it receives the header information or does it download the whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the header information, that would be great. Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of anything would work in that regards with your situation. Like Andy said, be careful out there. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http
Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
Short of unsubscribing all the users from all those lists... - Original Message - From: Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think this will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
Exactly! -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. Short of unsubscribing all the users from all those lists... - Original Message - From: Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think this will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
This could be done with a separate machine that receives mail for your domain and only relays valid addresses to you. In order to help with the bandwidth problem, this machine would have to be somewhere that did not have a bandwidth limitation. Tom -Original Message- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
It reduces the total bandwidth used by 50% as no NDR is returned. On 3/24/03 6:56, Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think this will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
Size limits for individual mailboxes are not evaluated at the connector level in Exchange 5.5/DMS. In E2K with AD, you may be able to get evaluations of message size done earlier in the transmissions process... I can't remember for certain. On 3/24/03 10:27, Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also set a small size limit on it. That brings up another question: If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange deny the email when it receives the header information or does it download the whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the header information, that would be great. Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth. That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of anything would work in that regards with your situation. Like Andy said, be careful out there. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of anything would work in that regards with your situation. Like Andy said, be careful out there. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions 1. Create a Distribution List with no members. 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List. No NDRS, Emails disapear. And be careful out there. -- Original Message -- From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list. Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day! I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I would sure appreciate it. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
