RE: Legato
We use Legato here for backing up pretty much everything. It can be infuriating when it doesn't work and their tech support is lousy. On the other hand, if Legato says something is backed up, you can rest assured you can recover it if need be. Their BSM (business suite modules) for Exchange seem to work just fine - I've only encountered one problem which you can avoid by making sure you have the latest Legato server software. One thing to watch for: don't run clients that are newer than the server version - that isn't support and can get you in trouble. Clients older than the server are OK. Legato is solid and flexible, but it is also complicated. If you are going to be the primary Legato person, expect a LARGE learning curve. You may want to consider contracting out support to a third party - particularly if using a complex tape jukebox. Above all, TEST TEST TEST! -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Legato
Then is it like more like Tivoli? I have used CA, Veritas, HP SureStore, and Palindrome (Seagate). I have touched Tivoli but just doing restore/recovery for Exchange. Tivoli has so much to it than the other it seems. - Original Message - From: Ken Cornetet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: RE: Legato We use Legato here for backing up pretty much everything. It can be infuriating when it doesn't work and their tech support is lousy. On the other hand, if Legato says something is backed up, you can rest assured you can recover it if need be. Their BSM (business suite modules) for Exchange seem to work just fine - I've only encountered one problem which you can avoid by making sure you have the latest Legato server software. One thing to watch for: don't run clients that are newer than the server version - that isn't support and can get you in trouble. Clients older than the server are OK. Legato is solid and flexible, but it is also complicated. If you are going to be the primary Legato person, expect a LARGE learning curve. You may want to consider contracting out support to a third party - particularly if using a complex tape jukebox. Above all, TEST TEST TEST! -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Legato
Tony, Have you tried Netbackup from Veritas? (I assume by Veritas you were referring to there BE product). Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 December 2002 16:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Legato Then is it like more like Tivoli? I have used CA, Veritas, HP SureStore, and Palindrome (Seagate). I have touched Tivoli but just doing restore/recovery for Exchange. Tivoli has so much to it than the other it seems. - Original Message - From: Ken Cornetet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: RE: Legato We use Legato here for backing up pretty much everything. It can be infuriating when it doesn't work and their tech support is lousy. On the other hand, if Legato says something is backed up, you can rest assured you can recover it if need be. Their BSM (business suite modules) for Exchange seem to work just fine - I've only encountered one problem which you can avoid by making sure you have the latest Legato server software. One thing to watch for: don't run clients that are newer than the server version - that isn't support and can get you in trouble. Clients older than the server are OK. Legato is solid and flexible, but it is also complicated. If you are going to be the primary Legato person, expect a LARGE learning curve. You may want to consider contracting out support to a third party - particularly if using a complex tape jukebox. Above all, TEST TEST TEST! -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (6) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Legato
With Exchange 2000, remember to create a directive to skip the M: drive. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Legato
Always read the NSXCHSV.log to make sure that the backup was a success. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Legato
And the directory exchange is installed on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Legato With Exchange 2000, remember to create a directive to skip the M: drive. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Legato
Thanks. - Original Message - From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:08 PM Subject: RE: Legato Always read the NSXCHSV.log to make sure that the backup was a success. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Legato
I guess I will find out once I get into it but, does it kill the log files by default or is that should be set in the options. - Original Message - From: Christopher Hummert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Legato And the directory exchange is installed on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Legato With Exchange 2000, remember to create a directive to skip the M: drive. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Legato
By default it does clear the logs. Using the Client you can do a copy which doesn't. Legato itself can be a bear but, once you manage the GUI it is OK. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Legato I guess I will find out once I get into it but, does it kill the log files by default or is that should be set in the options. - Original Message - From: Christopher Hummert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Legato And the directory exchange is installed on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Legato With Exchange 2000, remember to create a directive to skip the M: drive. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legato I have been asked to work with Legato for backing up of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 and also Window Servers. Anything that is a gotcha that I should look out for. It will be my first time using this software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Legato Networker for Exchange 2000
First of all it is very quirky with all the prerequisites that need to be done before you can restore a server to another machine (all the machines need to be registered clients, the source machine has to be configured with explicit remote permissions so that the other machine can perform a directed restore). But that I can get used to. We have a ton of servers to backup. The Legato server seems to not be able to handle such a number of servers. The admin interface is super slow and very often disconnects when you try to do something. Finally, I have never had a case where an Exchange restore went smoothly. It usually takes a few hours to get the restore going. Currently I have been wrestling with a particular restore for 2 straight days. It is an information store restore to an offline server. It needs two tapes - a full one and an incremental one. Legato perfectly knows what needs to be restored - legato verbose logs indicate that it knows that it first needs to restore the full thing, next the transaction logs from the incremental tape. But right when it is done restoring from the full tape, it tries to do hard recovery without waiting for the transaction logs to come in from another tape!!! Sure in the past I have seen it work fine in this situation, but this time (and a few other times in the past) it is pulling this crap. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
