RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager
This is good to know. Thank you. Dot -Original Message- From: Dan Bartley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager Depends on whether you have the Application Pack. Just MOM alone will do nothing for you with Ex5.5. It will monitor the Win2k OS out of the box. The agent is well behaved in 99% of the environments. I haven't tried against Ex5.5, but it can have some issues with certain report scripts on E2k with App Pack. It does not bring the box down in one test arena, it just does not function consistently with the mailbox needed for Exchange reporting functions. I regularly have to restart the agent service to get a script to complete on one test arena. In another, it just won't work with the mailbox most of the time, no matter what I do. This is with the App Pack. It works fine on the OS, SQL, etc. In one of the test arenas, the WMI service regularly runs away with the CPU, due directly to the failure of the Exchange scripts. In the other one, it does not, it just fails to complete the scripts without restarting the agent. The biggest thing about MOM is to be sure you assign computer groups to the rule sets, or you'll get nothing, and be very careful what you decide to pull from the logs and scripts. The database will get very large, very quickly. Dan Bartley, MCSE+Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:05 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager I'm concerned with the agent and the overhead. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager The agent or the application and databases and $tonofotheroverhead? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager Has anyone installed MOM on their Exchange server? I have Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on a Windows 2000 server sp2. I am also running Trend Micro virus scan and content filter 3.52 and 3.11 respectively on it. I have no issues with the server or Exchange but I'm being asked to think about installing Microsoft Operations Manager on it. My contention is that I don't know enough about MOM to know the impact it may have on Exchange. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dot Harris William Blair Company _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager
The agent or the application and databases and $tonofotheroverhead? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager Has anyone installed MOM on their Exchange server? I have Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on a Windows 2000 server sp2. I am also running Trend Micro virus scan and content filter 3.52 and 3.11 respectively on it. I have no issues with the server or Exchange but I'm being asked to think about installing Microsoft Operations Manager on it. My contention is that I don't know enough about MOM to know the impact it may have on Exchange. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dot Harris William Blair Company _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager
I'm concerned with the agent and the overhead. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager The agent or the application and databases and $tonofotheroverhead? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager Has anyone installed MOM on their Exchange server? I have Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on a Windows 2000 server sp2. I am also running Trend Micro virus scan and content filter 3.52 and 3.11 respectively on it. I have no issues with the server or Exchange but I'm being asked to think about installing Microsoft Operations Manager on it. My contention is that I don't know enough about MOM to know the impact it may have on Exchange. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dot Harris William Blair Company _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager
I've had it running in a test situation on some scratch production network boxes. The agent doesn't do much loading of the server, but MOM really isn't designed for an Exchange 5.5 NT 4.0 environment. It's forte is remote/automated/centralized management of a Win2K/E2K environment. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager I'm concerned with the agent and the overhead. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager The agent or the application and databases and $tonofotheroverhead? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager Has anyone installed MOM on their Exchange server? I have Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on a Windows 2000 server sp2. I am also running Trend Micro virus scan and content filter 3.52 and 3.11 respectively on it. I have no issues with the server or Exchange but I'm being asked to think about installing Microsoft Operations Manager on it. My contention is that I don't know enough about MOM to know the impact it may have on Exchange. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dot Harris William Blair Company _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager
Installing the agents should be ok, the load isnt really that large. Installing the MOM server on your Exchange box is a big no no. MOM is a resource hog, the same as Exchange. Glenn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager Has anyone installed MOM on their Exchange server? I have Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on a Windows 2000 server sp2. I am also running Trend Micro virus scan and content filter 3.52 and 3.11 respectively on it. I have no issues with the server or Exchange but I'm being asked to think about installing Microsoft Operations Manager on it. My contention is that I don't know enough about MOM to know the impact it may have on Exchange. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dot Harris William Blair Company _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager
Depends on whether you have the Application Pack. Just MOM alone will do nothing for you with Ex5.5. It will monitor the Win2k OS out of the box. The agent is well behaved in 99% of the environments. I haven't tried against Ex5.5, but it can have some issues with certain report scripts on E2k with App Pack. It does not bring the box down in one test arena, it just does not function consistently with the mailbox needed for Exchange reporting functions. I regularly have to restart the agent service to get a script to complete on one test arena. In another, it just won't work with the mailbox most of the time, no matter what I do. This is with the App Pack. It works fine on the OS, SQL, etc. In one of the test arenas, the WMI service regularly runs away with the CPU, due directly to the failure of the Exchange scripts. In the other one, it does not, it just fails to complete the scripts without restarting the agent. The biggest thing about MOM is to be sure you assign computer groups to the rule sets, or you'll get nothing, and be very careful what you decide to pull from the logs and scripts. The database will get very large, very quickly. Dan Bartley, MCSE+Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:05 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager I'm concerned with the agent and the overhead. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager The agent or the application and databases and $tonofotheroverhead? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MOM - Microsoft Operations Manager Has anyone installed MOM on their Exchange server? I have Exchange 5.5 sp4 running on a Windows 2000 server sp2. I am also running Trend Micro virus scan and content filter 3.52 and 3.11 respectively on it. I have no issues with the server or Exchange but I'm being asked to think about installing Microsoft Operations Manager on it. My contention is that I don't know enough about MOM to know the impact it may have on Exchange. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dot Harris William Blair Company _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
