RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Hlabse
After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and you 
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have to 
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce 
email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it available 
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.

From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400
If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.
Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K
I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?
I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.
Thoughts?

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RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Edgington, Jeff
We take an approach that may work for you...We have a recovery domain
(restore.domain.com) and of course the production domain of domain.com

When a mailbox server in domain.com goes down, the following occurs.

1.  Diagnose the cause of the failure and repair this cause (for
example, replace the hardware at issue).

2.  If the OS on the mail server in domain.com is not damaged, then copy
TLOGS from production server to recovery server (in restore.domain.com)
and then reset the databases on the production mail server... this gives
everyone e-mail service... but they won't have their old data and won't
have their rules.

3.  Now recover the production databases using restore.domain.com and
the TLOGS that you copied from the production mail server.

4.  Once recovered, copy these dbs back to the production server (but
use a different name for the files than the production mail server is
using for the dbs)..

5.  Dismount the reset dbs on the production server, rename these dbs to
something else, rename the recovered dbs (the ones you copied) to the
correct names and then remount... your users now have their mail up to
the point of your failure and their rules back, but are now missing
recent e-mail... 

6.  Copy the reset dbs back to the restore.domain.com domain and then
use exmerge to dump this mail to pst files... then exmerge these pst
files back into the production... you users now have all mail restored.

The link below gives more detail and the MS references for doing this.

http://web.umr.edu/~jedg/Work%20Stuff/Exchange_2000/e2k_disaster_recover
y_informatio.htm

Hope this helps you :)





-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K


After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and
you 
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have
to 
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce

email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it
available 
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.


From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400

If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K

I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?

I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.

Thoughts?

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RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Hlabse
Yes but he wanted to know if the hardware just plain went out the door. No 
OS no nothing. He just wanted to use the exsisting email servers still up to 
take up the slack until th recovery process could take place. It's a long 
story but that what you get for having someone else maintain your system. 
Not that they are not good but there is always finger pointing when 
outsourcing services

From: Edgington, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:12:34 -0500
We take an approach that may work for you...We have a recovery domain
(restore.domain.com) and of course the production domain of domain.com
When a mailbox server in domain.com goes down, the following occurs.

1.  Diagnose the cause of the failure and repair this cause (for
example, replace the hardware at issue).
2.  If the OS on the mail server in domain.com is not damaged, then copy
TLOGS from production server to recovery server (in restore.domain.com)
and then reset the databases on the production mail server... this gives
everyone e-mail service... but they won't have their old data and won't
have their rules.
3.  Now recover the production databases using restore.domain.com and
the TLOGS that you copied from the production mail server.
4.  Once recovered, copy these dbs back to the production server (but
use a different name for the files than the production mail server is
using for the dbs)..
5.  Dismount the reset dbs on the production server, rename these dbs to
something else, rename the recovered dbs (the ones you copied) to the
correct names and then remount... your users now have their mail up to
the point of your failure and their rules back, but are now missing
recent e-mail...
6.  Copy the reset dbs back to the restore.domain.com domain and then
use exmerge to dump this mail to pst files... then exmerge these pst
files back into the production... you users now have all mail restored.
The link below gives more detail and the MS references for doing this.

http://web.umr.edu/~jedg/Work%20Stuff/Exchange_2000/e2k_disaster_recover
y_informatio.htm
Hope this helps you :)





-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and
you
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have
to
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce
email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it
available
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400
If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.
Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K
I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?
I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.
Thoughts?

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RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Edgington, Jeff
hrm... guess I didn't get that from the original note.

sorry.


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K


Yes but he wanted to know if the hardware just plain went out the door.
No 
OS no nothing. He just wanted to use the exsisting email servers still
up to 
take up the slack until th recovery process could take place. It's a
long 
story but that what you get for having someone else maintain your
system. 
Not that they are not good but there is always finger pointing when 
outsourcing services


From: Edgington, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:12:34 -0500

We take an approach that may work for you...We have a recovery domain
(restore.domain.com) and of course the production domain of domain.com

When a mailbox server in domain.com goes down, the following occurs.

1.  Diagnose the cause of the failure and repair this cause (for
example, replace the hardware at issue).

2.  If the OS on the mail server in domain.com is not damaged, then copy
TLOGS from production server to recovery server (in restore.domain.com)
and then reset the databases on the production mail server... this gives
everyone e-mail service... but they won't have their old data and won't
have their rules.

3.  Now recover the production databases using restore.domain.com and
the TLOGS that you copied from the production mail server.

4.  Once recovered, copy these dbs back to the production server (but
use a different name for the files than the production mail server is
using for the dbs)..

5.  Dismount the reset dbs on the production server, rename these dbs to
something else, rename the recovered dbs (the ones you copied) to the
correct names and then remount... your users now have their mail up to
the point of your failure and their rules back, but are now missing
recent e-mail...

6.  Copy the reset dbs back to the restore.domain.com domain and then
use exmerge to dump this mail to pst files... then exmerge these pst
files back into the production... you users now have all mail restored.

The link below gives more detail and the MS references for doing this.

http://web.umr.edu/~jedg/Work%20Stuff/Exchange_2000/e2k_disaster_recover
y_informatio.htm

Hope this helps you :)





-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K


After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and
you
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have
to
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce

email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it
available
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.


From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400

If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K

I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?

I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.

Thoughts?

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RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-16 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K

I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In 
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one 
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is 
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he 
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new 
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have 
to do logout of Outlook?

I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back 
may be ok.

Thoughts?

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RE: Mailbox Recovery

2002-09-20 Thread Chris Scharff

IIRC OS doesn't matter, but Exchange version and SP/hotfix do.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Mailbox Recovery
 
 
 In the past I have I have used server to restore a single 
 mailbox by installing Exchange as a new site using the 
 original ORG/SITE then restoring the IS and running 
 consistency checker. Since my last test of this procedure I 
 have upgraded  my production server to W2k and my restore 
 server is an older NT4 sp6a. Both machines are running 5.5 SP4. 
 
 The IS will not start after the restore. Perhaps I made some 
 error while following the DR white paper and I am getting 
 ready to uninstall Exchange and start over. Should this 
 procedure be able to work or will it only work if the O/S, 
 Exch Ver and SP are the same
 
 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine
 
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RE: Mailbox Recovery

2002-09-18 Thread Morrison, Mike L.

If memory serves (and it doesn't always!), your last sentence is the key.
The servers need to be identical down to the hot-fix, or it won't work.

Mike Morrison
Staff System Engineer
Fletcher Allen Health Care 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox Recovery


In the past I have I have used server to restore a single mailbox by
installing Exchange as a new site using the original ORG/SITE then restoring
the IS and running consistency checker. Since my last test of this procedure
I have upgraded  my production server to W2k and my restore server is an
older NT4 sp6a. Both machines are running 5.5 SP4. 

The IS will not start after the restore. Perhaps I made some error while
following the DR white paper and I am getting ready to uninstall Exchange
and start over. Should this procedure be able to work or will it only work
if the O/S, Exch Ver and SP are the same

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Mailbox Recovery

2002-09-18 Thread Tristan Gayford

It can be done, but not necessarily easily. Dave didn't give any clues with
errors from the IS, but I would guess (having experienced it several times
in my labs), that Q224977 may well help.

Tris

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Cranfield University at Silsoe



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From: Morrison, Mike L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 18 September 2002 16:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox Recovery

If memory serves (and it doesn't always!), your last sentence is the key.
The servers need to be identical down to the hot-fix, or it won't work.

Mike Morrison
Staff System Engineer
Fletcher Allen Health Care 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox Recovery


In the past I have I have used server to restore a single mailbox by
installing Exchange as a new site using the original ORG/SITE then restoring
the IS and running consistency checker. Since my last test of this procedure
I have upgraded  my production server to W2k and my restore server is an
older NT4 sp6a. Both machines are running 5.5 SP4. 

The IS will not start after the restore. Perhaps I made some error while
following the DR white paper and I am getting ready to uninstall Exchange
and start over. Should this procedure be able to work or will it only work
if the O/S, Exch Ver and SP are the same

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Mailbox Recovery

2002-09-18 Thread Brian Ko

That article will help.  If not, you'll have to run ESEUTIL /R before
you can start the service.

Brian

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tristan Gayford
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox Recovery


It can be done, but not necessarily easily. Dave didn't give any clues
with
errors from the IS, but I would guess (having experienced it several
times
in my labs), that Q224977 may well help.

Tris

-
Tristan Gayford
Deputy Systems  Network Manager
Cranfield University at Silsoe



-Original Message-
From: Morrison, Mike L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 18 September 2002 16:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox Recovery

If memory serves (and it doesn't always!), your last sentence is the
key.
The servers need to be identical down to the hot-fix, or it won't work.

Mike Morrison
Staff System Engineer
Fletcher Allen Health Care 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox Recovery


In the past I have I have used server to restore a single mailbox by
installing Exchange as a new site using the original ORG/SITE then
restoring
the IS and running consistency checker. Since my last test of this
procedure
I have upgraded  my production server to W2k and my restore server is an
older NT4 sp6a. Both machines are running 5.5 SP4. 

The IS will not start after the restore. Perhaps I made some error while
following the DR white paper and I am getting ready to uninstall
Exchange
and start over. Should this procedure be able to work or will it only
work
if the O/S, Exch Ver and SP are the same

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Mailbox Recovery

2002-09-18 Thread Bolser, Scott

As long as Exchange server is the same version (sp's and hotfixes) you can
use an older OS server for a restore server or vice-versa (upgrade to newer
OS).  What you will have to do is after the restore, is defrag the db (it
will state it in the app log).  Run eseutil /d against the priv, and after
it finishes, you'll be able to start the IS.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox Recovery


In the past I have I have used server to restore a single mailbox by
installing Exchange as a new site using the original ORG/SITE then restoring
the IS and running consistency checker. Since my last test of this procedure
I have upgraded  my production server to W2k and my restore server is an
older NT4 sp6a. Both machines are running 5.5 SP4. 

The IS will not start after the restore. Perhaps I made some error while
following the DR white paper and I am getting ready to uninstall Exchange
and start over. Should this procedure be able to work or will it only work
if the O/S, Exch Ver and SP are the same

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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