RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
Hi Ben, Microsoft Professional Product Services talked me through this. Their approach allows you to move them back to the correct place if needed. Have you learned nothing from the replies? Don't manually move the log files. EVER. The Exchange Optimizer will move them for you. Safely. It has to stop the services first before moving them. This way, Exchange knows where the old log files are in case you need to perform a restore and roll-back the log files (so you don't lose any mail).=20 Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
I may have not been clear enough. If your server does not have room to hold all of its transaction log files (on any partition) and if you can not back it up, and you want to avoid filling up the partition containing the log files, you can stop the services, move the (no longer needed) log files elsewhere and restart the services. (I've done it without any problem many times in the lab and a few times in a production environment.) You later run the backup when it's available. Keep all the log files, though, as you may need them if you have a crash. No one said do this carelessly. Do this if you have no alternative. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
Have you learned nothing from the replies? Don't manually move the log files. EVER. The Exchange Optimizer will move them for you. Safely. It has to stop the services first before moving them. This way, Exchange knows where the old log files are in case you need to perform a restore and roll-back the log files (so you don't lose any mail). Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:27 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Manually relocate transaction log files Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files I may have not been clear enough. If your server does not have room to hold all of its transaction log files (on any partition) and if you can not back it up, and you want to avoid filling up the partition containing the log files, you can stop the services, move the (no longer needed) log files elsewhere and restart the services. (I've done it without any problem many times in the lab and a few times in a production environment.) You later run the backup when it's available. Keep all the log files, though, as you may need them if you have a crash. No one said do this carelessly. Do this if you have no alternative. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
Thanks for clearing that up. I can now rip out all references to using the Exchange Optimizer from any books I have. From: Chris Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 06:26:45 -0700 I may have not been clear enough. If your server does not have room to hold all of its transaction log files (on any partition) and if you can not back it up, and you want to avoid filling up the partition containing the log files, you can stop the services, move the (no longer needed) log files elsewhere and restart the services. (I've done it without any problem many times in the lab and a few times in a production environment.) You later run the backup when it's available. Keep all the log files, though, as you may need them if you have a crash. No one said do this carelessly. Do this if you have no alternative. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
If your drive is full and you need to get rid of transaction logs, and for some reason you can't run a full backup... the next best choice is to turn on circular logging so that it would safely eat the unnecessary logs. Then turn off circular logging and do a full backup ASAP. Moving transaction logs somewhere else is NUTS! Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files I may have not been clear enough. If your server does not have room to hold all of its transaction log files (on any partition) and if you can not back it up, and you want to avoid filling up the partition containing the log files, you can stop the services, move the (no longer needed) log files elsewhere and restart the services. (I've done it without any problem many times in the lab and a few times in a production environment.) You later run the backup when it's available. Keep all the log files, though, as you may need them if you have a crash. No one said do this carelessly. Do this if you have no alternative. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services, all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases. I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere just in case. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
No way. Never do it manually, never. Way to often people move or delete their log files and hose the whole system. Next thing you know they are on the phone with PSS. Use the tools provided by Exchange to do the job. In your case, the optimizer. -Original Message- From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services, all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases. I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere just in case. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
What? I don't thnik so. From: Chris Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:53:41 -0700 You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services, all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases. I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere just in case. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
And how do you tell Exchange where to look for transaction logs next time it starts? Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services, all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases. I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere just in case. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
You are kidding, right? Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Manually relocate transaction log files You can also simply stop the Exch55 services, move (keep) the log files to another drive/server, and start the services. When you stop the services, all data in the transaction logs SHOULD be committed to the databases. I've seen KBs on MS' website implying it doesn't always happen ut it has always worked for me. Definately move the files and save them elsewhere just in case. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Manually relocate transaction log files
You can run the Exchange Performance Optimizer to relocate the log files. //how -Original Message- From: Sanjeev Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Manually relocate transaction log files I am in a very difficult situation right now. The backup server for my 2 exchange servers crashed which is currently being rebuilt but in the meantime the primary partition on my both exchange servers is running out of space because I could not backup both the exchange servers and transaction logs are keep growing eating up the space. My question is how can I manually relocate the logs to an alternative location so that I can have my exchange server running until the backup server gets rebuilt completely. Could I cause any damage to the application if I do that? Please help soon! I would greatly appreciate any help on this quickly. Thanks! Platform: Win NT 4.0 Server Application: Exchange 5.5 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
