RE: OWA and IIS Security

2002-07-09 Thread Fioon

1.The lockdown tool can't lock down the *.htr files that keeps the most
important thing (username  password). Lockdown tool can lock down the whole
IIS lope holes.(If I do this, user cant log in)

If I use lockdown tool to unblocked the *.htr files, I've tried the url
scan, there are lope holes that gave hacker chance to hack in. 

Any suggestion?

Thanks
Rgds
Fioon

-Original Message-
From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and IIS Security


1. What about using the iis lockdown tool and url scan?  Check technet for
how to get this to work nicely w/ owa.

2. yeah, but you'll still need to allow an rpc/mapi session between owa and
the mailbox server(s), so you'll need to have the dmz configured for the
necessary ports.  So the idea here is that now a hack will have to
compromise the web with http/s (because that's all that's open on the public
side of the firewall), gain root, then discover and compromise the mailbox
servers using the limited number of ports available between them and the
then compromised owa host (dmz).  Or, alternatively you could leave it on
the internal lan whereby a hack would need to compromise the web with
http/s, gain root, then easily discover everything and have full socket
access to your other systems (subject to your application layer security
model).  I guess there are many ways to look at it.  I've done it either way
w/ 5.5.

Good luck-byron

-Original Message-
From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and IIS Security


Hi Everyone,

Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of our Exchange
Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  However I have
Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the Exchange server
to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security patches (that I know
of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. There are two
things I'd like to know: -

1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch or 3rd party
tool?

2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server that is running
IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we have a web server
that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of attack if I remove
IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? I know this is
probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. I've checked out
the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular scenario. The Exchange
server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The web server is
running W2K (SP2).

I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.

Regards
Tony

Tony McCarthy
Systems Engineer
OSI Software Ltd
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph:64 09 522 5909 
Fax:64 09 522 5901 
Mob: 021 703035 



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RE: OWA and IIS Security

2002-07-08 Thread Smith, Ronni

1) I think you can't really make anything bulletproof but Microsoft has a
security tool that sets perms for an IIS server running OWA to minimize
risk. Search for the IIS security tool or something like that.

2) Yes you can run OWA on a different server. I do that. I have a cheapo
ex-desktop that runs IIS and OWA and that is it. But I don't have very many
users on it either. Be aware that if you have the IIS server in a DMZ then
you may have to open more holes in your firewall than you would like. Some
folks recommend keeping the OWA server inside the firewall so you don't have
to open more than 2 ports to it. This has been discussed on the list in the
past. People can get somewhat passionate about their view on the subject.
You might want to check the archives although I don't know how well the
search feature is working right now.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA and IIS Security
 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of 
 our Exchange
 Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
 unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  
 However I have
 Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
 considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the 
 Exchange server
 to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security 
 patches (that I know
 of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. There are two
 things I'd like to know: -
 
 1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch 
 or 3rd party
 tool?
 
 2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server 
 that is running
 IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we 
 have a web server
 that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of 
 attack if I remove
 IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? 
 I know this is
 probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. 
 I've checked out
 the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular 
 scenario. The Exchange
 server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The 
 web server is
 running W2K (SP2).
 
 I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.
 
 Regards
 Tony
 
 Tony McCarthy
 Systems Engineer
 OSI Software Ltd
 Auckland
 New Zealand
 Ph:64 09 522 5909 
 Fax:64 09 522 5901 
 Mob: 021 703035 
 
 
 
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RE: OWA and IIS Security

2002-07-08 Thread Tony McCarthy


Thanks for the info. I'll have a go at installing OWA on the web server I
think. I see IIS as a necessary evil. We're basically a Microsoft
environment here so since I have to use IIS for the web server I may as well
install OWA on it as well. Do I just install the OWA component from SP4? Any
other Exchange components required?

Regards
Tony

-Original Message-
From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 8:49 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and IIS Security

1) I think you can't really make anything bulletproof but Microsoft has a
security tool that sets perms for an IIS server running OWA to minimize
risk. Search for the IIS security tool or something like that.

2) Yes you can run OWA on a different server. I do that. I have a cheapo
ex-desktop that runs IIS and OWA and that is it. But I don't have very many
users on it either. Be aware that if you have the IIS server in a DMZ then
you may have to open more holes in your firewall than you would like. Some
folks recommend keeping the OWA server inside the firewall so you don't have
to open more than 2 ports to it. This has been discussed on the list in the
past. People can get somewhat passionate about their view on the subject.
You might want to check the archives although I don't know how well the
search feature is working right now.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA and IIS Security
 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of 
 our Exchange
 Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
 unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  
 However I have
 Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
 considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the 
 Exchange server
 to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security 
 patches (that I know
 of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. There are two
 things I'd like to know: -
 
 1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch 
 or 3rd party
 tool?
 
 2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server 
 that is running
 IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we 
 have a web server
 that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of 
 attack if I remove
 IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? 
 I know this is
 probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. 
 I've checked out
 the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular 
 scenario. The Exchange
 server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The 
 web server is
 running W2K (SP2).
 
 I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.
 
 Regards
 Tony
 
 Tony McCarthy
 Systems Engineer
 OSI Software Ltd
 Auckland
 New Zealand
 Ph:64 09 522 5909 
 Fax:64 09 522 5901 
 Mob: 021 703035 
 
 
 
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RE: OWA and IIS Security

2002-07-08 Thread Smith, Ronni

You need to start with the Exchange install cd and then apply SP4 as far as
I know (I had to do that but we were only on SP3 at that point). I thought
there was something in the FAQ about this too? In one of the appendices
maybe? Yup, here it is:

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxg.htm

Ronni

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA and IIS Security
 
 
 
 Thanks for the info. I'll have a go at installing OWA on the 
 web server I
 think. I see IIS as a necessary evil. We're basically a Microsoft
 environment here so since I have to use IIS for the web 
 server I may as well
 install OWA on it as well. Do I just install the OWA 
 component from SP4? Any
 other Exchange components required?
 
 Regards
 Tony
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 8:49 a.m.
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA and IIS Security
 
 1) I think you can't really make anything bulletproof but 
 Microsoft has a
 security tool that sets perms for an IIS server running OWA 
 to minimize
 risk. Search for the IIS security tool or something like that.
 
 2) Yes you can run OWA on a different server. I do that. I 
 have a cheapo
 ex-desktop that runs IIS and OWA and that is it. But I don't 
 have very many
 users on it either. Be aware that if you have the IIS server 
 in a DMZ then
 you may have to open more holes in your firewall than you 
 would like. Some
 folks recommend keeping the OWA server inside the firewall so 
 you don't have
 to open more than 2 ports to it. This has been discussed on 
 the list in the
 past. People can get somewhat passionate about their view on 
 the subject.
 You might want to check the archives although I don't know 
 how well the
 search feature is working right now.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: OWA and IIS Security
  
  
  Hi Everyone,
  
  Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of 
  our Exchange
  Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
  unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  
  However I have
  Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
  considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the 
  Exchange server
  to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security 
  patches (that I know
  of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. 
 There are two
  things I'd like to know: -
  
  1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch 
  or 3rd party
  tool?
  
  2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server 
  that is running
  IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we 
  have a web server
  that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of 
  attack if I remove
  IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? 
  I know this is
  probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. 
  I've checked out
  the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular 
  scenario. The Exchange
  server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The 
  web server is
  running W2K (SP2).
  
  I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.
  
  Regards
  Tony
  
  Tony McCarthy
  Systems Engineer
  OSI Software Ltd
  Auckland
  New Zealand
  Ph:64 09 522 5909 
  Fax:64 09 522 5901 
  Mob: 021 703035 
  
  
  
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