Re: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

VPN.

 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:10:20 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to 
Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use 
Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 
2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to the 
internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access 
enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to 
check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail 
option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of long 
distance
calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any 
more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that 
route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring 
etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Vincent Avallone

Oh I forgot to mention that VPN is not going to happen right now.  I
think we have some political and IP issues we need to work out first

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From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: Remote Access

VPN.

 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:10:20 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to 
Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use 
Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 
2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to the 
internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access 
enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to 
check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail 
option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of long 
distance
calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any 
more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that 
route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring 
etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535



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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

IP issues?


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:16:43 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh I forgot to mention that VPN is not going to happen 
right now.  I
think we have some political and IP issues we need to work 
out first

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Remote Access

VPN.

 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:10:20 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to 
Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use 
Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does 
have 
2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to the 
internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access 
enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to 
check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail 
option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of 
long 
distance
calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open 
any 
more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that 
route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with 
calendaring 
etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote 
access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Vincent Avallone

Intellectual Property.

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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access

IP issues?


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:16:43 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh I forgot to mention that VPN is not going to happen 
right now.  I
think we have some political and IP issues we need to work 
out first

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Remote Access

VPN.

 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:10:20 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to 
Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use 
Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does 
have 
2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to the 
internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access 
enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to 
check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail 
option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of 
long 
distance
calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open 
any 
more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that 
route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with 
calendaring 
etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote 
access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

How is this affected by using a VPN? 


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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:27:30 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Intellectual Property.

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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access

IP issues?


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:16:43 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh I forgot to mention that VPN is not going to happen 
right now.  I
think we have some political and IP issues we need to work 
out first

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Remote Access

VPN.

 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:10:20 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering what others are doing for remote access 
to 
Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use 
Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does 
have 
2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to 
the 
internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote 
Access 
enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to 
check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail 
option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of 
long 
distance
calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open 
any 
more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going 
that 
route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with 
calendaring 
etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote 
access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Martin Blackstone

You have a few options:
VPN (MAPI)
OWA
POP
IMAP
Or poke a ton of holes in the FW (Im glad you have a security guy to stop
that).

That is basically what you have.weigh the pros and cons, and choose.

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Oh I forgot to mention that VPN is not going to happen right now.  I think
we have some political and IP issues we need to work out first

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Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Remote Access

VPN.

 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:10:20 -0400
From: Vincent Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remote Access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to
Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use
Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does have
2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to the
internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access
enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to
check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail
option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of long
distance
calls.

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any
more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring
etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535



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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Mellott, Bill

Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of long distance
calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread TGreen

How about an 800 number for direct dial-in?

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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange
2000.  Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so
the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet
accounts through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet
wherever they are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on
our 2000 network.
My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their
email, either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in
Outlook, they are blocked by our firewall.
Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot of long distance
calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes
in the firewall.
I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that route, but
then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
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Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
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From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange 2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook, they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Jeremy I. Shannon

How about a VPN??

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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange 2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook, they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Mellott, Bill

Umm true I do punch the Citrix port in the firewall.
1 port...the citrix client has security. 56 des...it will go to 128 if you
would like.

true the TS port might be less secure...I mean I trust M$ dont you?

I guess I could get crazy fun...VPN and allow only the Citrix client port
;-)

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
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-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange 2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook, they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Vincent Avallone

I get the feeling that a VPN might be a good idea. :-)
I think the tide is turning in that direction.

Thanks for your advice.

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-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access

Umm true I do punch the Citrix port in the firewall.
1 port...the citrix client has security. 56 des...it will go to 128 if
you
would like.

true the TS port might be less secure...I mean I trust M$ dont you?

I guess I could get crazy fun...VPN and allow only the Citrix client
port
;-)

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it
under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange
2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the
OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000
network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their
email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook,
they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying
for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes
in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring
etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

What kind of VPN solution are we talking about?  MS PPTP??  LOL!  NOT!!
L2TP?  NOT!  CHAP?  NOT!

I like the Cisco VPN concentrators or the like.  I don't have to punch holes
in the FW, it runs parallel to it.  Use the IPSEC client and you're at least
able to sleep at night.


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


How about a VPN??

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange 2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook, they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

No, I don't trust MS (please don't use M$, I and a lot other people here
really hate that), not ever.  ;o)

I just don't like punching holes in my FW when there are appliances out
there to do the job I need without punching holes in the FW.


Don Ely
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-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm true I do punch the Citrix port in the firewall.
1 port...the citrix client has security. 56 des...it will go to 128 if you
would like.

true the TS port might be less secure...I mean I trust M$ dont you?

I guess I could get crazy fun...VPN and allow only the Citrix client port
;-)

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange 2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook, they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Martin Blackstone

Hee hee. I do the same thing! Cisco VPN running paralel to the FW. IPSec
client on the desktops.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


What kind of VPN solution are we talking about?  MS PPTP??  LOL!  NOT!!
L2TP?  NOT!  CHAP?  NOT!

I like the Cisco VPN concentrators or the like.  I don't have to punch holes
in the FW, it runs parallel to it.  Use the IPSEC client and you're at least
able to sleep at night.


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


How about a VPN??

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange 2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook, they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Jeremy I. Shannon

What type of VPN is up to him and depends on the hardware that he has, or the software 
if he wants to go that way.  I do use a Cisco PIX for mine with IPSEC clients, but 
that may not be what he wants.  To each their own  :)

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


What kind of VPN solution are we talking about?  MS PPTP??  LOL!  NOT!!
L2TP?  NOT!  CHAP?  NOT!

I like the Cisco VPN concentrators or the like.  I don't have to punch holes
in the FW, it runs parallel to it.  Use the IPSEC client and you're at least
able to sleep at night.


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


How about a VPN??

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any security
oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd never get me to do it under
any circumstance...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.

bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Remote Access


I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to Exchange 2000.
Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use Offline Folders, so the OWA
isn't going to work for them. Our company does have 2 Internet accounts
through ATT that users can use to connect to the internet wherever they
are.  We also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 network. My
problem is that if users dial in using ATT and try to check their email,
either by directly connecting or using Remote mail option in Outlook, they
are blocked by our firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a
lot of long distance calls.  

I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any more holes in
the firewall. I thought of switching the accounts to IMAP and going that
route, but then you lose the Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.

So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?

Thanks for any help.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

Of course, it comes with its own headaches, but they could be a lot worse
than they are...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 What kind of VPN solution are we talking about?  MS PPTP??  
 LOL!  NOT!! L2TP?  NOT!  CHAP?  NOT!
 
 I like the Cisco VPN concentrators or the like.  I don't have 
 to punch holes in the FW, it runs parallel to it.  Use the 
 IPSEC client and you're at least able to sleep at night.
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 How about a VPN??
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any 
 security oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd 
 never get me to do it under any circumstance...
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
 You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.
 
 bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Remote Access
 
 
 I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to 
 Exchange 2000. Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use 
 Offline Folders, so the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our 
 company does have 2 Internet accounts through ATT that users 
 can use to connect to the internet wherever they are.  We 
 also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 
 network. My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and 
 try to check their email, either by directly connecting or 
 using Remote mail option in Outlook, they are blocked by our 
 firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot 
 of long distance calls.  
 
 I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any 
 more holes in the firewall. I thought of switching the 
 accounts to IMAP and going that route, but then you lose the 
 Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.
 
 So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?
 
 Thanks for any help.
 --
 Vincent Avallone
 iBiquity Digital
 (410) 872-1535
 
 
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RE: Remote Access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

True...


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Remote Access


Of course, it comes with its own headaches, but they could be a lot worse
than they are...

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 What kind of VPN solution are we talking about?  MS PPTP??
 LOL!  NOT!! L2TP?  NOT!  CHAP?  NOT!
 
 I like the Cisco VPN concentrators or the like.  I don't have
 to punch holes in the FW, it runs parallel to it.  Use the 
 IPSEC client and you're at least able to sleep at night.
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy I. Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 How about a VPN??
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 You still have to punch holes in the FW.  Not something any
 security oriented person is really willing to do.  You'd 
 never get me to do it under any circumstance...
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Remote Access
 
 
 Umm if you have time/money to burn/hardware/etc...
 You could use TS (terminal services) /Citrix.
 
 bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Remote Access
 
 
 I was wondering what others are doing for remote access to
 Exchange 2000. Many of my users DO use the OWA but a few use 
 Offline Folders, so the OWA isn't going to work for them. Our 
 company does have 2 Internet accounts through ATT that users 
 can use to connect to the internet wherever they are.  We 
 also have Routing and Remote Access enables on our 2000 
 network. My problem is that if users dial in using ATT and 
 try to check their email, either by directly connecting or 
 using Remote mail option in Outlook, they are blocked by our 
 firewall. Or if they dial in directly we are paying for a lot 
 of long distance calls.  
 
 I don't think the Security guy is going to want to open any
 more holes in the firewall. I thought of switching the 
 accounts to IMAP and going that route, but then you lose the 
 Exchange functionality with calendaring etc.
 
 So, what are others doing to give their users remote access?
 
 Thanks for any help.
 --
 Vincent Avallone
 iBiquity Digital
 (410) 872-1535
 
 
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