RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Megginson
So if store.exe is not using more memory (only 512K out of 2GB):
A) Does that guarrentee it does not need more?
B) Is there a way to force or encourage it to use more?

I know, I know. I'm asking for someone else, OK?

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-23 Thread Ben Winzenz
It will use as much as it needs.  You can't force it to use more - it
would be pointless.  When it needs more, it grabs more. 


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Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager


So if store.exe is not using more memory (only 512K out of 2GB):
A) Does that guarrentee it does not need more?
B) Is there a way to force or encourage it to use more?

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Mike Scott
Kurt,

This is totally normal.
Store.exe grabs all the memory it needs, but is well behaved about
giving it back as the system requires it.

Regards,
Mike

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2003 12:42
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size
of
about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe
process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
You got lots of free time on your hands?



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From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size
of
about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe
process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Berepoot
Not really. Why?

Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Martin Blackstone
This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory it
can. It will also release memory if another program needs some.

You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing
nothing? 

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size of
about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe
process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Exchange Discussion List
 
Check out the JET Database Engine section in this document:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;271987.  Ignore that
it is talking about 5.5, same concepts apply to E2K or E2K3 in this case.
Specifically, the phrase dynamic buffer allocation is what will help
explain how the store does what it does.

M
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From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size of
about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe
process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go
unused, now did you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory it
can. It will also release memory if another program needs some.

You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing
nothing? 

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size of
about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe
process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Atkinson, Daniel
Why is that correct? 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2003 16:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go
unused, now did you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory it
can. It will also release memory if another program needs some.

You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing
nothing? 

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size of
about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe
process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Ben Winzenz
It's a saying that Ed is known for.  It quite correctly applies though.
If you buy 2gb of memory for your Exchange server, what good is it doing
if only 512mb gets used.  Does it make you feel better if there is lots
of memory available in reserve just in case?  Memory is much faster to
use than using pagefile, ergo Exchange wants to use memory if it is
available.  Now do you understand why we always use that line?


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
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-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:44 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Store.exe in Task Manager
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager


Why is that correct? 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2003 16:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go
unused, now did you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory
it can. It will also release memory if another program needs some.

You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing
nothing? 

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size
of about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the
store.exe process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Martin Blackstone
Because he made it up. I was going to quote him with credit, but I knew I
would wreck it just like I did. 

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

Why is that correct? 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2003 16:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go
unused, now did you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory it
can. It will also release memory if another program needs some.

You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing
nothing? 

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size of
about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe
process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Atkinson, Daniel
I understand perfectly, although I think it's 'a correct line' not 'the
correct line'.

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From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 October 2003 17:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

It's a saying that Ed is known for.  It quite correctly applies though.
If you buy 2gb of memory for your Exchange server, what good is it doing
if only 512mb gets used.  Does it make you feel better if there is lots
of memory available in reserve just in case?  Memory is much faster to
use than using pagefile, ergo Exchange wants to use memory if it is
available.  Now do you understand why we always use that line?


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:44 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Store.exe in Task Manager
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager


Why is that correct? 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2003 16:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go
unused, now did you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory
it can. It will also release memory if another program needs some.

You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing
nothing? 

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size
of about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the
store.exe process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-22 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
My old friend Martin knows I was kidding him.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

I understand perfectly, although I think it's 'a correct line' not 'the
correct line'.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2003 17:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

It's a saying that Ed is known for.  It quite correctly applies though.
If you buy 2gb of memory for your Exchange server, what good is it doing if
only 512mb gets used.  Does it make you feel better if there is lots of
memory available in reserve just in case?  Memory is much faster to use
than using pagefile, ergo Exchange wants to use memory if it is available.
Now do you understand why we always use that line?


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:44 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Store.exe in Task Manager
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager


Why is that correct? 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 October 2003 16:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go
unused, now did you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory
it can. It will also release memory if another program needs some.

You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing
nothing? 

-Original Message-
From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager

Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4.
When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size
of about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the
store.exe process it only has a value of 25 MB.

Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do
this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act
without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?)

Many thaks
Kurt

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