RE: The spam that gets through
Trend InterScan Messaging Security Suite I believe, although I don't administer our internal systems. The guys that do happended to mention that SurfControl was way better at catching spam. I'll see if I can find some figures. Neil -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 08 July 2003 21:19 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: RE: The spam that gets through What were you using previously, and how many messages enter it from the Internet in a day? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:55 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: RE: The spam that gets through If it gets past the database of known spam (we use SurfControl), then it also undergoes a keyword scan. Sometimes this blocks legitimate mail, which is a PITA. I've removed myself from the keyword scanning, as I was spending more time getting messgaes released than I was dealing with spam. It doesn't bother me to delete a few messages. If it gets past the keyword scan, then sometimes we evaluate the text, and we add in specific rules to combat that particular message. For example, we can't see much communication involving septic tanks within our normal day-to-daty activities. :0) The manual adding is not very scalable I admit. But SurfControl's spam datbase is catching 3x the amount of our previous product. Neil -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 08 July 2003 16:45 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202 360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.silversands.co.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
Some of our users use the Delete key - yours truly included - but some of them want the spam to analysed further and blocked in the future. I guess my question was phrased badly, so I'll rephrase it: How do you handle users who receive spam that want that source of spam blocked on the filters? (I'm not speaking from a tehcnical angle of tracing the spam, more of an organistional angle) Del Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
We still do that seat of the pants. We ask the users to forward the message, intact, to our postmaster group, and we manually analyze it in a completely unscientific manner. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The spam that gets through Some of our users use the Delete key - yours truly included - but some of them want the spam to analysed further and blocked in the future. I guess my question was phrased badly, so I'll rephrase it: How do you handle users who receive spam that want that source of spam blocked on the filters? (I'm not speaking from a tehcnical angle of tracing the spam, more of an organistional angle) Del Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
That all sounds very familiar! :-) -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 09 July 2003 12:39 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: RE: The spam that gets through We still do that seat of the pants. We ask the users to forward the message, intact, to our postmaster group, and we manually analyze it in a completely unscientific manner. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The spam that gets through Some of our users use the Delete key - yours truly included - but some of them want the spam to analysed further and blocked in the future. I guess my question was phrased badly, so I'll rephrase it: How do you handle users who receive spam that want that source of spam blocked on the filters? (I'm not speaking from a tehcnical angle of tracing the spam, more of an organistional angle) Del Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202 360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.silversands.co.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
I usually shake my head then kind of sigh. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
ROFL! Is that what's required to hit the delete key just right? Geez...and all this time I've been doing it wrong. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The spam that gets through I usually shake my head then kind of sigh. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
If it gets past the database of known spam (we use SurfControl), then it also undergoes a keyword scan. Sometimes this blocks legitimate mail, which is a PITA. I've removed myself from the keyword scanning, as I was spending more time getting messgaes released than I was dealing with spam. It doesn't bother me to delete a few messages. If it gets past the keyword scan, then sometimes we evaluate the text, and we add in specific rules to combat that particular message. For example, we can't see much communication involving septic tanks within our normal day-to-daty activities. :0) The manual adding is not very scalable I admit. But SurfControl's spam datbase is catching 3x the amount of our previous product. Neil -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 08 July 2003 16:45 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202 360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.silversands.co.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
I've just shaken my head and sighed at today's OOF messages I've got. :-) Including Liam Murphy at HP who I used to work with. Hi Liam! Neil -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 08 July 2003 16:47 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: RE: The spam that gets through I usually shake my head then kind of sigh. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202 360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.silversands.co.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
Del -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
And know they love you. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The spam that gets through I usually shake my head then kind of sigh. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang= english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
Neil, Where did you work with Liam? Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 July 2003 16:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The spam that gets through I've just shaken my head and sighed at today's OOF messages I've got. :-) Including Liam Murphy at HP who I used to work with. Hi Liam! Neil -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 08 July 2003 16:47 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: RE: The spam that gets through I usually shake my head then kind of sigh. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202 360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.silversands.co.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (04) *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
And then fall asleep. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The spam that gets through I usually shake my head then kind of sigh. -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The spam that gets through
What were you using previously, and how many messages enter it from the Internet in a day? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:55 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: RE: The spam that gets through If it gets past the database of known spam (we use SurfControl), then it also undergoes a keyword scan. Sometimes this blocks legitimate mail, which is a PITA. I've removed myself from the keyword scanning, as I was spending more time getting messgaes released than I was dealing with spam. It doesn't bother me to delete a few messages. If it gets past the keyword scan, then sometimes we evaluate the text, and we add in specific rules to combat that particular message. For example, we can't see much communication involving septic tanks within our normal day-to-daty activities. :0) The manual adding is not very scalable I admit. But SurfControl's spam datbase is catching 3x the amount of our previous product. Neil -Original Message- From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 08 July 2003 16:45 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: The spam that gets through Subject: The spam that gets through Quick question following a vigourous debate here: How do people out in list-land handle spam which gets past the spam filters? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202 360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.silversands.co.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
