RE: hard drive space
Service pack 4 installed last week!
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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:12 AM
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
You have the latest Exchange 5.5 service pack installed?
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:51 AM
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Ok got the go ahead to add 2 drives. I'll add the drives mirror and then run 5.5
optimization to move to new drives. I had just installed exchange svp 4, I would have
thought I had already rec'd latest ver of store!! Will check. The system was running
CA av but I stopped all the services for CA. Store still pegged.
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From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
1. You might make sure you have the latest version of store.exe.
2. Exmerge out the data. Mount a blank store. Merge it back in.
3. Otherwise, contact MS and have them take a user dump when the store is pegged.
They'll be able to review it and see what is causing the store spike. Then they will
probably have you exmerge out the data, mount a blank store, and merge it back in. ;)
Jeff
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Conversation: hard drive space
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes care of cpu for the
next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need
better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Matt, you actually need more than the database size. Say, 1.2 times. You can use
network connected disk space to do the offline defrag. Might take awhile depending on
network speed. Or even attach a larger drive to your system for temp storage.
Ron
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From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled
av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need
better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
1. You might make sure you have the latest version of store.exe.
2. Exmerge out the data. Mount a blank store. Merge it back in.
3. Otherwise, contact MS and have them take a user dump when the store is pegged.
They'll be able to review it and see what is causing the store spike. Then they will
probably have you exmerge out the data, mount a blank store, and merge it back in. ;)
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Posted At: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:34 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: hard drive space
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled
av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need
better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
What Exchange AV package are you using? NAI, CA?
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From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
I was wondering what that smell was last time I ran a defrag...
Steven
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
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From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
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Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Yes
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Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
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Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
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RE: hard drive space
Before of course. Who the hell smokes in bed?
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From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:48 AM
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
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From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
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Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
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Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
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Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
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From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
There are command switches that enable you to redirect it to another drive.
You can also redirect it to a mapped drive on another box. This will of
course affect the performance of the defrag though.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:09 AM
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
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Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
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From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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Re: hard drive space
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space on
any databases copied over from the prod server.
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
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Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
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Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
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Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database +
10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data
from the old
file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain
on drive where
edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6
gb and 1 gb
with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
.+--xm
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RE: hard drive space
Not sure, Martins answer covered what I have done in the past. It is a jet
direct utility so as long as you have the .edb .stm files you may be able
to. Anyone know?
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space on
any databases copied over from the prod server.
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database
+ 10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the
old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and
1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
.+--xm
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i??)?l+-r?rW{jx?m^zx%?S ?^jAZ? 2?G(L\x?fyb?)
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RE: hard drive space - OT Story
Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine:
A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some
software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server.
While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I
said, he's the boss. Today though, when I came into work, he asks me,
What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time. I said,
I don't know, will look into it.
Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC
software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop. Not only
that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB. Now, the only thing that
saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally
installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually
likes to install programs, the Exchange share.
So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete
control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1
necessary. For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and
teach them the best you can :)
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on any databases copied over from the prod server.
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database
+ 10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the
old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and
1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
.+--xm
,)?r(? \?y'
i??)?l+-r?rW{jx?m^zx%?S ?^jAZ? 2?G(L\x?fyb?)
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Re: hard drive space
Not sure about what?
If you can do it?
Technet article: 244525
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Not sure, Martins answer covered what I have done in the past. It is a
jet
direct utility so as long as you have the .edb .stm files you may be
able
to. Anyone know?
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on
any databases copied over from the prod server.
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database
+ 10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the
old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and
1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
.+--xm
,)?r(? \?y'
i??)?l+-r?rW{jx?m^zx%?S ?^jAZ? 2?G(L\x?fyb?)
)
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RE: hard drive space - OT Story
My boss doesn't know the admin password. Things are safer that way, though if I was to die or something like that he has a way to get the password -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space - OT Story Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine: A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server. While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I said, he's the boss. Today though, when I came into work, he asks me, What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time. I said, I don't know, will look into it. Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop. Not only that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB. Now, the only thing that saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually likes to install programs, the Exchange share. So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1 necessary. For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and teach them the best you can :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: hard drive space You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space on any databases copied over from the prod server. - Original Message - From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: RE: hard drive space Redirect the temp file -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes, regardless of your Exch version. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000? -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm? -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space Then smokes a cigarette -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space That's not entirely true. What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database + 10%. The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: hard drive space exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled av sw. Big problem. Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas. Thanks .+--xm ,)?r
RE: hard drive space
Well that answers that, the answer is yes.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space
Not sure about what?
If you can do it?
Technet article: 244525
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Not sure, Martins answer covered what I have done in the past. It is
a
jet
direct utility so as long as you have the .edb .stm files you may be
able
to. Anyone know?
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has
space
on
any databases copied over from the prod server.
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current
database
+ 10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from
the old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the
new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need
space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb
and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs
cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
.+--xm
,)?r(? \?y'
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RE: hard drive space
Ok got the go ahead to add 2 drives. I'll add the drives mirror and then run 5.5
optimization to move to new drives.
I had just installed exchange svp 4, I would have thought I had already rec'd latest
ver of store!! Will check. The system was running CA av but I stopped all the services
for CA. Store still pegged.
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
1. You might make sure you have the latest version of store.exe.
2. Exmerge out the data. Mount a blank store. Merge it back in.
3. Otherwise, contact MS and have them take a user dump when the store is pegged.
They'll be able to review it and see what is causing the store spike. Then they will
probably have you exmerge out the data, mount a blank store, and merge it back in. ;)
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Posted At:
Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:34 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: hard drive space
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes care of cpu for the
next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need
better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: hard drive space
You have the latest Exchange 5.5 service pack installed?
Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Ok got the go ahead to add 2 drives. I'll add the drives mirror and then run 5.5
optimization to move to new drives.
I had just installed exchange svp 4, I would have thought I had already rec'd latest
ver of store!! Will check. The system was running CA av but I stopped all the services
for CA. Store still pegged.
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
1. You might make sure you have the latest version of store.exe.
2. Exmerge out the data. Mount a blank store. Merge it back in.
3. Otherwise, contact MS and have them take a user dump when the store is pegged.
They'll be able to review it and see what is causing the store spike. Then they will
probably have you exmerge out the data, mount a blank store, and merge it back in. ;)
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Posted At:
Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:34 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: hard drive space
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's
are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform
this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space
remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes care of cpu for the
next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service
to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to
see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need
better Ideas.
Thanks
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