RE: hard drive space - OT Story
Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine:
A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some
software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server.
While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I
said, he's the boss. Today though, when I came into work, he asks me,
What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time. I said,
I don't know, will look into it.
Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC
software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop. Not only
that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB. Now, the only thing that
saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally
installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually
likes to install programs, the Exchange share.
So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete
control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1
necessary. For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and
teach them the best you can :)
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on any databases copied over from the prod server.
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database
+ 10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the
old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and
1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
.+--xm
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RE: hard drive space - OT Story
My boss doesn't know the admin password. Things are safer that way, though if I was to die or something like that he has a way to get the password -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space - OT Story Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine: A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server. While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I said, he's the boss. Today though, when I came into work, he asks me, What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time. I said, I don't know, will look into it. Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop. Not only that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB. Now, the only thing that saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually likes to install programs, the Exchange share. So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1 necessary. For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and teach them the best you can :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: hard drive space You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space on any databases copied over from the prod server. - Original Message - From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: RE: hard drive space Redirect the temp file -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Yes, regardless of your Exch version. -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000? -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm? -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space Then smokes a cigarette -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space That's not entirely true. What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database + 10%. The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: hard drive space You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: hard drive space exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space equal to the databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at 100% every 2 days. A reboot takes care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at increased rate. disabled av sw. Big problem. Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2 days for the store service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to replace databases with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I can't do this for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas. Thanks .+--xm ,)?r
