E2k trans logs #s increasing rapidly
Hi all, The number of transaction logs being created on one of my Exchange servers(E2k sp3) has increased quite a bit recently. For this installation, the total trans log size was under 1 gig every day until a few weeks back and now is between 4-5 gig. MSFT KB talks about the possible culprits being Virusscan or backup programs accessing the M drive for filescans or to make backups. In my case I use both Exchange aware AV program and backup program(Groupshield and Arcserve E2k agent) and I confirmed that neither is accessing the M drive directly for scanning or backing up. Searches from OWA also supposedly increases the number of logs being created, but I don't think that is the case here - don't think usage pattern has changed dramatically in the last few weeks. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any other thoughts on what could be causing this. Thanks in advance . Regards, Reju _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: E2k trans logs #s increasing rapidly
Mail Loop? - Original Message - From: George, Reju [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:44 PM Subject: E2k trans logs #s increasing rapidly Hi all, The number of transaction logs being created on one of my Exchange servers(E2k sp3) has increased quite a bit recently. For this installation, the total trans log size was under 1 gig every day until a few weeks back and now is between 4-5 gig. MSFT KB talks about the possible culprits being Virusscan or backup programs accessing the M drive for filescans or to make backups. In my case I use both Exchange aware AV program and backup program(Groupshield and Arcserve E2k agent) and I confirmed that neither is accessing the M drive directly for scanning or backing up. Searches from OWA also supposedly increases the number of logs being created, but I don't think that is the case here - don't think usage pattern has changed dramatically in the last few weeks. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any other thoughts on what could be causing this. Thanks in advance . Regards, Reju _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trans logs
Are you sure you're doing a NORMAL or FULL backup, instead of a COPY? And you're checking the dates on the logs, right? - Original Message - From: Ashraph, Elizabeth A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: RE: Trans logs All the backups being performed are full, and yet the logs are not getting deleted. Where would you start in troubleshooting that problem, the backup system or Exchange? Thanks. Liz Ashraph -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs There is no such option in backup packages, including NTBACKUP, I've worked with. If you perform a full (normal) or incremental backup, the backup program purges the logs. If you perform a differential or copy backup, the logs are not purged. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of knighTslayer Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs Your Exchange aware backup product does that. Or you do if you manually do so after a successful off-line backup. If the logs were not purged, then the option to do so wasn't set. knighTslayer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trans logs Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trans logs
All the backups being performed are full, and yet the logs are not getting deleted. Where would you start in troubleshooting that problem, the backup system or Exchange? Thanks. Liz Ashraph -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs There is no such option in backup packages, including NTBACKUP, I've worked with. If you perform a full (normal) or incremental backup, the backup program purges the logs. If you perform a differential or copy backup, the logs are not purged. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of knighTslayer Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs Your Exchange aware backup product does that. Or you do if you manually do so after a successful off-line backup. If the logs were not purged, then the option to do so wasn't set. knighTslayer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trans logs Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trans logs
Check the backup logs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs All the backups being performed are full, and yet the logs are not getting deleted. Where would you start in troubleshooting that problem, the backup system or Exchange? Thanks. Liz Ashraph -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs There is no such option in backup packages, including NTBACKUP, I've worked with. If you perform a full (normal) or incremental backup, the backup program purges the logs. If you perform a differential or copy backup, the logs are not purged. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of knighTslayer Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs Your Exchange aware backup product does that. Or you do if you manually do so after a successful off-line backup. If the logs were not purged, then the option to do so wasn't set. knighTslayer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trans logs Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trans logs
Take a look at the log directory and make a not of when the logs were created. I've seen instances where it appeared as though logs were not getting purged by backup when in fact they were, but there was a huge amount of data being processed since the backup due to mail looping and a lack of prohibit send/receive. If the logs are all dated after your last backup, then I would diagnose in Exchange, if the logs predate your backup job, then perhaps review your backup configuration. I hope this helps Jim Collins Sr. Systems Engineer Competitive Computing, Inc. www.competitive.com -Original Message- From: Ashraph, Elizabeth A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs All the backups being performed are full, and yet the logs are not getting deleted. Where would you start in troubleshooting that problem, the backup system or Exchange? Thanks. Liz Ashraph -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs There is no such option in backup packages, including NTBACKUP, I've worked with. If you perform a full (normal) or incremental backup, the backup program purges the logs. If you perform a differential or copy backup, the logs are not purged. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of knighTslayer Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs Your Exchange aware backup product does that. Or you do if you manually do so after a successful off-line backup. If the logs were not purged, then the option to do so wasn't set. knighTslayer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trans logs Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trans logs
Have you tried a full online backup with NTBACKUP? - Original Message - From: Ashraph, Elizabeth A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: RE: Trans logs All the backups being performed are full, and yet the logs are not getting deleted. Where would you start in troubleshooting that problem, the backup system or Exchange? Thanks. Liz Ashraph -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs There is no such option in backup packages, including NTBACKUP, I've worked with. If you perform a full (normal) or incremental backup, the backup program purges the logs. If you perform a differential or copy backup, the logs are not purged. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of knighTslayer Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs Your Exchange aware backup product does that. Or you do if you manually do so after a successful off-line backup. If the logs were not purged, then the option to do so wasn't set. knighTslayer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trans logs Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trans logs
Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trans logs
Your Exchange aware backup product does that. Or you do if you manually do so after a successful off-line backup. If the logs were not purged, then the option to do so wasn't set. knighTslayer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trans logs Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trans logs
There is no such option in backup packages, including NTBACKUP, I've worked with. If you perform a full (normal) or incremental backup, the backup program purges the logs. If you perform a differential or copy backup, the logs are not purged. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of knighTslayer Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trans logs Your Exchange aware backup product does that. Or you do if you manually do so after a successful off-line backup. If the logs were not purged, then the option to do so wasn't set. knighTslayer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ashraph, Elizabeth A. Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trans logs Please forgive me in advance for asking this, but in Ex5.5 who deletes the transaction logs after a full backup, does Exchange or the Exchange aware Backup software (like Veritas). Has anyone seen cases where backups are successful but the logs don't get purged, what might cause this. Thanks. Liz Ashraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
