RE: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-26 Thread Orr, Dale

Radmin Rocks. V2.1 particularly.

-Original Message-
From: March, Harold W. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)



If he's willing to part with the cash, RAdmin is an
alternative if you're a pure NT/W2K shop:
http://www.famatech.com/


> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:07 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)
> 
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
> > I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware"
> > still scares management around here ("But who will you call for
> > support?").
> 
>   http://www.tridia.com
> 
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RE: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-26 Thread March, Harold W.


If he's willing to part with the cash, RAdmin is an
alternative if you're a pure NT/W2K shop:
http://www.famatech.com/


> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:07 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)
> 
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
> > I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware"
> > still scares management around here ("But who will you call for
> > support?").
> 
>   http://www.tridia.com
> 
> -- 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

I'll help you Tom!  What would you like today?  Would you like fries with
that?  ;o)


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-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Think I should open up a PSS call for not having to reboot mine
periodically?  Didn't have to with Gold or SP1, either.  I guess I'm doing
something wrong.  Maybe a consultant could help me...

-tom

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 01:45 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Frankly, Exchange 5.5 SP4 that we have has been running
> without restarting for MANY months now.
> 
> But Exchange 2000 does not seem to be as stable. Maybe by the
> time they release SP4 it will be stable :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> bzzzttt...
> 
> Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need
> to reboot periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been 
> found, and rebooting is a stop gap, not a real solution!
> 
> M
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> u they only have 1 user :)
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Sir,
> 
> How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday
> without any (or little:-)) errors?
> 

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

Whose to say I can't figure that out your work address sitting right here?


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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And this isn't the same Linux box. Same config though. This one runs my
website. I had to take it down cause I added more Ram in it. I'm not giving
out the IP to my work one. -Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

ROFLMFAO!!

If you don't know what it is, don't tell us we can't take your box down.


Don Ely
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Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap? What's that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

But he said it has been up for a year and 4 months.  You're saying it's been
up for 35 days?


Don Ely
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(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
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-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good.
Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
>

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

$50???  Is that all?   Not worth it for some lame Linux box and don't think
some stupid feature like IPChains is gonna keep someone out.

I believe Roger has said it best...  "BSD Skunks the Penguin!"


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
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> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-26 Thread Ely, Don

Funny, I was thinking leaky memory in third party admin...  ;o)


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(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

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From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Ray Zorz

MG came close though. Their cars wouldn't start. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Mynhier
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:19 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Soysal, Serdar

In this organization every network problem is first reported as an "Exchange
Issue".  It's probably due to the fact that Outlook is the only network
application that EVERY client uses and it is usually the very first network
application that they open.  That's probably the reason why the network
problems are reported as exchange issues.  Well, that and an untrainable
mass of helpdeskians.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


I am amazed daily at the number of people who blame Exchange when they are
having DNS issues

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


"Awaiting Directory Lookup" this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your exchange
servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the "Awaiting
Directory Lookup" queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those pesky
messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP virtual
server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can simply remove
those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When OWA
gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or memory
utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA does not like
people's passwords anymore. Although this could have something to do with
Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and IIS
services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops accepting
users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Glaman, Mark

Its not really a surprise.. Most people don't understand DNS.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


I am amazed daily at the number of people who blame Exchange when they
are having DNS issues

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


"Awaiting Directory Lookup" this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the "Awaiting
Directory Lookup" queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Dillon, Jeff

Nor one that could reliably crash several times a day.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:19 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Stephen Mynhier

I am amazed daily at the number of people who blame Exchange when they
are having DNS issues

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


"Awaiting Directory Lookup" this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the "Awaiting
Directory Lookup" queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Stephen Mynhier

And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:19 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Wanted to clarify my earlier statements:

the Exchange server that we end up resetting every night is the back-end
Exchange server with about 1,500 mailboxes.

The front-end Exchange 2000 servers with SP2 normally run for months on end
without problems. They deal with SSL and non-SSL OWA, POP3, IMAP, SMTP,
Virus scanning (Sybari Antigen). All they need is a good amount of RAM and
they have 1GB of it each.

The back-end deals with OWA, POP3, IMAP, SMTP connections from the
front-ends, + direct Outlook MAPI connections. It also runs Sybari Antigen.
The back-end has 4GB of RAM and 2 Xeon CPUs.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Frankly, Exchange 5.5 SP4 that we have has been running without restarting
for MANY months now.

But Exchange 2000 does not seem to be as stable. Maybe by the time they
release SP4 it will be stable :)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


bzzzttt...

Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need to reboot
periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been found, and rebooting is
a stop gap, not a real solution!

M
- Original Message -
From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


u they only have 1 user :)

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

There are no obstacles between Exchange servers and DC/GC servers

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


"Awaiting Directory Lookup" this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the "Awaiting
Directory Lookup" queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread missy koslosky

You need AS to take advantage of having that much RAM.

- Original Message -
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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


It has 4G Ram but...
Q266096 says the /3GB switch is for "Advanced Server", mine's just
"Windows
2000 Server"  Would upgrading that help? Would I get my money back if it
doesn't?

Before I had E2KSP2 I tried the /3GB switch anyway, and the event log
recorded an event suggesting that the switch was wrong. This was a long
time
ago I don't think I have that event log item anymore. I've read other Q
Articles that also suggest /3GB is only for Advanced Server.

Meanwhile my server did whatever it does that makes it stop again this
morning so as soon as I rebooted I printed screens of Task Manager
showing
memory usage, peak memory, cpu and will repeat the next time I have
trouble
- maybe this will give me a lead on which of the 100s of parameters in
PerfMon to monitor for an actual cause for this problem. The event log
showed

MSExchangeDSAccess Topology
Event ID: 2103
Process MAD.EXE (PID=1844). All Global Catalog Servers in use are not
responding:
exchange.JohnBurnham.com

EventID.net suggests this may be ignored in single GC/DC environments
like
my own.
The Microsoft Content Redirect link in the event log, as usual, shows
nothing.

Maybe this has nothing to do with my "need" to reboot, which I would
rather
schedule at night than unscheduled when my phone rings people saying
"stuff
is in my outbox"; "I'm not getting email"; or "The salesperson I support
is
in the field and needs help getting their email from the internet"

Thanks for everyone's input & suggestions thus far.

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
>
>
> Sounds like what I am dealing with. Although I have not seen
> Fragmented
> Memory warnings for a long time now. Ever since I put the
> /3GB switch in the
> BOOT.INI
>
> How much physical RAM does your server have? If you use more
> than 1GB of
> RAM, you should put /3GB switch in the BOOT.INI or the server
> cannot take
> advantage of the memory above 1GB and starts fragmenting the existing
> memory.
>
> Check this for more info
> http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
>
>
> I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
> Memory
> is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
> few
> days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
> outboxes
> slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
> this
> happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
> and
> Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well
> again for a
> few
> days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server
> Resource Kit to
> get
> shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Julian Stone

"Awaiting Directory Lookup" this would indicate that you have dsaccess
problems, which would also start to explain the OWA logon issues. 

So, IMHO, I think you should look at the communication between your
exchange servers and your DC\GC servers.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the "Awaiting
Directory Lookup" queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those
pesky messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP
virtual server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can
simply remove those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem: When
OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA
does not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have
something to do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on
time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Chuck Bryant

It has 4G Ram but...
Q266096 says the /3GB switch is for "Advanced Server", mine's just
"Windows
2000 Server"  Would upgrading that help? Would I get my money back if it
doesn't?

Before I had E2KSP2 I tried the /3GB switch anyway, and the event log
recorded an event suggesting that the switch was wrong. This was a long
time
ago I don't think I have that event log item anymore. I've read other Q
Articles that also suggest /3GB is only for Advanced Server.

Meanwhile my server did whatever it does that makes it stop again this
morning so as soon as I rebooted I printed screens of Task Manager
showing
memory usage, peak memory, cpu and will repeat the next time I have
trouble
- maybe this will give me a lead on which of the 100s of parameters in
PerfMon to monitor for an actual cause for this problem. The event log
showed 

MSExchangeDSAccess  Topology 
Event ID:   2103
Process MAD.EXE (PID=1844). All Global Catalog Servers in use are not
responding: 
exchange.JohnBurnham.com 
 
EventID.net suggests this may be ignored in single GC/DC environments
like
my own.
The Microsoft Content Redirect link in the event log, as usual, shows
nothing.

Maybe this has nothing to do with my "need" to reboot, which I would
rather
schedule at night than unscheduled when my phone rings people saying
"stuff
is in my outbox"; "I'm not getting email"; or "The salesperson I support
is
in the field and needs help getting their email from the internet"
 
Thanks for everyone's input & suggestions thus far.

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Sounds like what I am dealing with. Although I have not seen 
> Fragmented
> Memory warnings for a long time now. Ever since I put the 
> /3GB switch in the
> BOOT.INI
> 
> How much physical RAM does your server have? If you use more 
> than 1GB of
> RAM, you should put /3GB switch in the BOOT.INI or the server 
> cannot take
> advantage of the memory above 1GB and starts fragmenting the existing
> memory.
> 
> Check this for more info
> http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
> Memory
> is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
> few
> days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
> outboxes
> slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
> this
> happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
> and
> Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well 
> again for a
> few
> days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server 
> Resource Kit to
> get
> shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Kelly_Borndale


No one has... it isn't just Microsoft.

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Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Tom Meunier

Think I should open up a PSS call for not having to reboot mine
periodically?  Didn't have to with Gold or SP1, either.  I guess I'm
doing something wrong.  Maybe a consultant could help me...

-tom

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 01:45 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Frankly, Exchange 5.5 SP4 that we have has been running 
> without restarting for MANY months now.
> 
> But Exchange 2000 does not seem to be as stable. Maybe by the 
> time they release SP4 it will be stable :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> bzzzttt...
> 
> Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need 
> to reboot periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been 
> found, and rebooting is a stop gap, not a real solution!
> 
> M
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> u they only have 1 user :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Sir,
> 
> How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday 
> without any (or little:-)) errors?
> 

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Frankly, Exchange 5.5 SP4 that we have has been running without restarting
for MANY months now.

But Exchange 2000 does not seem to be as stable. Maybe by the time they
release SP4 it will be stable :)

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


bzzzttt...

Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need to reboot
periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been found, and rebooting is
a stop gap, not a real solution!

M
- Original Message -
From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


u they only have 1 user :)

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

As far as I can see, nothing is wrong. The server ran fine for months
without any restarts or reboots before SP2.

We went with SP2 because of better OWA features and better SMTP queue
management. Before SP2 we used to get messages stuck in the "Awaiting
Directory Lookup" queue and there was no way to get rid of them. Those pesky
messages eventually ate all the memory. We had to stop the SMTP virtual
server and create a new SMTP virtual server. After SP2, we can simply remove
those messages from this queue.



But a few days after installing SP2, we ran into the OWA problem:
When OWA gives up, there are no warnings or errors in the event log, CPU or
memory utilization do not change. Everything looks the same, but OWA does
not like people's passwords anymore. Although this could have something to
do with Kerberos tickets expiring (or not expiring) on time...

-Original Message-
From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

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Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread missy koslosky

bzzzttt...

Come on, I was running this stuff YEARS ago without the need to reboot
periodically.  There's an issue that hasn't been found, and rebooting is
a stop gap, not a real solution!

M
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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


u they only have 1 user :)

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

u they only have 1 user :)

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the problems.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Sounds like what I am dealing with. Although I have not seen Fragmented
Memory warnings for a long time now. Ever since I put the /3GB switch in the
BOOT.INI

How much physical RAM does your server have? If you use more than 1GB of
RAM, you should put /3GB switch in the BOOT.INI or the server cannot take
advantage of the memory above 1GB and starts fragmenting the existing
memory.

Check this for more info
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q266096

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
Memory
is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
few
days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
outboxes
slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
this
happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
and
Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well again for a
few
days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server Resource Kit to
get
shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Julian Stone

What else is wrong with your systems to warrant this ?? 

I have systems that have been running for months on SP2 with no issues.


Yours, 

Julian Stone 


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 April 2002 19:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and
IIS services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops
accepting users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Sometimes the very thing that leaks is the one that you cannot chop (or
upgrade)

-Original Message-
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You have leaky memory.

Performance monitor, Task manager.  Use these tools to find the culprit
and then . Chop it out/upgrade etc...

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

There is a RESTART.VBS that comes in the Windows 2000 support tools or in
the Windows 2000 Res Kit (can't remember which one)

You could write a batch file that will run RESTART.VBS and schedule it to
run every Sunday.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Hey since Exchange SP2 I have had to stop and start all my Exchange and IIS
services EVERY NIGHT. If I don't, the following day OWA stops accepting
users' passwords in the middle of a production day.

-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
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But why are the reboots required?


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RE: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-25 Thread Michael Hollingsworth

We run VNC on every computer (server and workstation) in our corporation.

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The VNC was featured in the Windows & .NET Magazine.

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> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
> > I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware"
> > still scares management around here ("But who will you call for
> > support?").
>
>   http://www.tridia.com
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Re: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-25 Thread David McSpadden

The VNC was featured in the Windows & .NET Magazine.

- Original Message -
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)


> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
> > I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware"
> > still scares management around here ("But who will you call for
> > support?").
>
>   http://www.tridia.com
>
> --
> Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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VNC support (was: scheduling automatic rebooting of server)

2002-04-25 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 4:38pm, Ken Cornetet wrote:
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware"
> still scares management around here ("But who will you call for
> support?").

  http://www.tridia.com

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Rocky Stefano

maybe in your relationship :)

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kim Schotanus
> Sent: April 25, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> A woman has the last word in any argument. 
> Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 25 April, 2002 4:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Regards,
> Mylo
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 25 April 2002 16:23
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> No.  All you need is Netmeeting installed on the Servers.  Then, once
> Netmeeting is installed, you can configure it to enable Remote Desktop
> Sharing.  Once that is installed, you can connect to it from your box
> via
> Netmeeting.  Try a search on Technet for Netmeeting Remote Desktop
> Sharing.
> You'll probably find a bunch of info.
> 
> Ben Winzenz, MCSE
> Network/Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> Roger,
> 
> Do you need an ILS Server for that ?
> 
> Regards
> Mylo
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
> else out there. It really rocks.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
> > upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
> > altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
> > world, I can't really do that.
> > 
> > On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
> > rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
> > 
> > I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
> > "freeware" still scares management around here ("But who will 
> > you call for support?").
> > 
> > I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
> > no more 3rd party remote control.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
> > stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
> > system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Peregrine Systems
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> > > 
> > > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> > > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> > > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> > > 
> > > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> > > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> > > never go 

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Myles, Damian

Stop cross-posting Kim :)

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 16:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


A woman has the last word in any argument. 
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Thanks

Regards,
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 16:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


No.  All you need is Netmeeting installed on the Servers.  Then, once
Netmeeting is installed, you can configure it to enable Remote Desktop
Sharing.  Once that is installed, you can connect to it from your box
via
Netmeeting.  Try a search on Technet for Netmeeting Remote Desktop
Sharing.
You'll probably find a bunch of info.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

Roger,

Do you need an ILS Server for that ?

Regards
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
> upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
> altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
> world, I can't really do that.
> 
> On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
> rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
> 
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
> "freeware" still scares management around here ("But who will 
> you call for support?").
> 
> I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
> no more 3rd party remote control.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
> stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
> system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> > 
> > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> > 
> > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> > never go down cleanly.
> > 
> > In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> > days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> > 
> > For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> > aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> > me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> > and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> > RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> > our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> > servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> 

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Kim Schotanus

A woman has the last word in any argument. 
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Thanks

Regards,
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 16:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


No.  All you need is Netmeeting installed on the Servers.  Then, once
Netmeeting is installed, you can configure it to enable Remote Desktop
Sharing.  Once that is installed, you can connect to it from your box
via
Netmeeting.  Try a search on Technet for Netmeeting Remote Desktop
Sharing.
You'll probably find a bunch of info.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

Roger,

Do you need an ILS Server for that ?

Regards
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
> upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
> altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
> world, I can't really do that.
> 
> On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
> rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
> 
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
> "freeware" still scares management around here ("But who will 
> you call for support?").
> 
> I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
> no more 3rd party remote control.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
> stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
> system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> > 
> > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> > 
> > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> > never go down cleanly.
> > 
> > In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> > days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> > 
> > For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> > aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> > me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> > and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> > RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> > our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> > servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> > test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> > and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> > 
> > I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is n

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Myles, Damian

Thanks

Regards,
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 16:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


No.  All you need is Netmeeting installed on the Servers.  Then, once
Netmeeting is installed, you can configure it to enable Remote Desktop
Sharing.  Once that is installed, you can connect to it from your box via
Netmeeting.  Try a search on Technet for Netmeeting Remote Desktop Sharing.
You'll probably find a bunch of info.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

Roger,

Do you need an ILS Server for that ?

Regards
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
> upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
> altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
> world, I can't really do that.
> 
> On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
> rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
> 
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
> "freeware" still scares management around here ("But who will 
> you call for support?").
> 
> I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
> no more 3rd party remote control.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
> stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
> system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> > 
> > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> > 
> > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> > never go down cleanly.
> > 
> > In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> > days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> > 
> > For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> > aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> > me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> > and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> > RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> > our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> > servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> > test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> > and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> > 
> > I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
> > bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> > obscure bugs obscure.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> > To: Exch

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Ben Winzenz

No.  All you need is Netmeeting installed on the Servers.  Then, once
Netmeeting is installed, you can configure it to enable Remote Desktop
Sharing.  Once that is installed, you can connect to it from your box via
Netmeeting.  Try a search on Technet for Netmeeting Remote Desktop Sharing.
You'll probably find a bunch of info.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

Roger,

Do you need an ILS Server for that ?

Regards
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
> upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
> altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
> world, I can't really do that.
> 
> On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
> rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
> 
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
> "freeware" still scares management around here ("But who will 
> you call for support?").
> 
> I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
> no more 3rd party remote control.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
> stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
> system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> > 
> > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> > 
> > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> > never go down cleanly.
> > 
> > In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> > days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> > 
> > For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> > aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> > me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> > and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> > RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> > our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> > servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> > test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> > and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> > 
> > I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
> > bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> > obscure bugs obscure.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > But why are the reboots required?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Myles, Damian

Roger,

Do you need an ILS Server for that ?

Regards
Mylo

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
> upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
> altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
> world, I can't really do that.
> 
> On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
> rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
> 
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
> "freeware" still scares management around here ("But who will 
> you call for support?").
> 
> I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
> no more 3rd party remote control.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
> stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
> system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> > 
> > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> > 
> > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> > never go down cleanly.
> > 
> > In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> > days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> > 
> > For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> > aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> > me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> > and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> > RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> > our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> > servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> > test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> > and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> > 
> > I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
> > bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> > obscure bugs obscure.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > But why are the reboots required?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
> > our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> > for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> > what you want.
> > 
> > It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
> > verifies that they do indeed stop).

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Roger Seielstad

Depends. Do you have a Premier Support Agreement? If so, the answer can be
yes.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Fix it how? Who's the vendor that I can go to and say "fix 
> it!"? Microsoft? Legato?
> 
> Even if I remove Legato and PCAnywhere from my servers so 
> that it is Microsoft only, do you think Microsoft is going to 
> send engineers out here to track down why our IS does not 
> shut down cleanly after the server has been running for months?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Yeah, and then you fix it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:26 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> The fact that some people can smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a 
> day and still live to be 90 years old doesn't mean that 
> cigarettes aren't dangerous. Likewise, the fact that you (and 
> others) can run problem-free computer systems without 
> rebooting doesn't mean there aren't bugs in the software. It 
> simply means that people have different computer 
> environments. Different users, different software, different 
> networks, hell, maybe different gamma rays - who knows?
> 
> The simple fact is that NT and Exchange (and other auxiliary 
> software like backup agents and remote-control) are not 
> bug-free, nor will they ever be. Some bugs, when tickled, 
> create subtle "corruption" (overwriting a random memory 
> location, locking a resource, whatever). Eventually, some 
> vital organ is hit and the system gets sick...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Sir,
> 
>   How do you explain the folks who run this stuff 
> everyday without any (or little:-)) errors?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA 
> server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> 
> Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking 
> out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> 
> Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to 
> the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> never go down cleanly.
> 
> In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 
> days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> 
> For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots 
> aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> 
> I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not 
> bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> obscure bugs obscure.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I&#x

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Roger Seielstad

Try Netmeeting Remote Desktop. Its as good (if not better) than anything
else out there. It really rocks.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we 
> upgraded from 8 to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers 
> altogether, but considering that my servers are all over the 
> world, I can't really do that.
> 
> On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are 
> rock-solid, so I can't say for sure it's a problem.
> 
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but 
> "freeware" still scares management around here ("But who will 
> you call for support?").
> 
> I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - 
> no more 3rd party remote control.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your 
> stability. And no, I'm not joking. I've never once seen a 
> system that was more stable with that installed than without it.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> > 
> > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> > 
> > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> > never go down cleanly.
> > 
> > In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> > days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> > 
> > For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> > aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> > me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> > and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> > RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> > our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> > servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> > test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> > and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> > 
> > I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
> > bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> > obscure bugs obscure.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > But why are the reboots required?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
> > our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> > for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> > what you want.
> > 
> > It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
> > verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> > complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> > reboot is running after the reboot.
> > 
> > Sends email showing the results.
> >

Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-25 Thread Matt Monteleone-Haught

I'll second that.  Dameware rocks.  And the NT utils are pretty d*mn handy.


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


>
> Check out Dameware Utilities.  I have their remote control package on my
> servers and no issues what so ever.  Dameware also has various utilities
> that come in handy as well.
>
> ~
> -K.Borndale
> IT Manager
> Sybari Software
> 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> 631.439.0689 -fax
> http://www.sybari.com
> "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
>
>
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> | |   |
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>
>
>
>
> I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we upgraded from
> 8
> to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers altogether, but considering that
> my
> servers are all over the world, I can't really do that.
>
> On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are rock-solid, so
> I
> can't say for sure it's a problem.
>
> I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware"
still
> scares management around here ("But who will you call for support?").
>
> I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - no more 3rd
> party remote control.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
>
>
> Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your stability. And
> no,
> I'm not joking. I've never once seen a system that was more stable with
> that
> installed than without it.
>
> ------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> >
> >
> > Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> > server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> >
> > Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> > out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice
> > monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are
> > "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> >
> > Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> > the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and
> > when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would
> > never go down cleanly.
> >
> > In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> > days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> >
> > For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> > aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling
> > me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware
> > and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa
> > RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
> > our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the
> > servers unless we fully understand and test first on sepa

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

And I think that it is fairly safe to say that you won't really get any
love by coming on a list designed for a specific Microsoft product and
bad-mouthing both the product and the company.  Every technology has an
exploit.  Whether it's an OS or a server application, there are
weaknesses and exploits.  And if you want to talk about charging for
software, then someone please tell me where I can download a free copy
of SuseMail, because I am curious to play with it!



-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:33 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Linux already has one. It's called 'alt.destroy.microsoft'

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


One of these days, someone's going to start a newsgroup or discussion
list geared towards advocacy of one NOS over others.  There seems to be
a demand for it.

Maybe usenet, somewhere in the comp.os.*.advocacy hierarchy...

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Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Daniel Chenault

Linux already has one. It's called 'alt.destroy.microsoft'

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


One of these days, someone's going to start a newsgroup or discussion
list geared towards advocacy of one NOS over others.  There seems to be
a demand for it.

Maybe usenet, somewhere in the comp.os.*.advocacy hierarchy...

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Tom Meunier

One of these days, someone's going to start a newsgroup or discussion
list geared towards advocacy of one NOS over others.  There seems to be
a demand for it.

Maybe usenet, somewhere in the comp.os.*.advocacy hierarchy...

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Oh my God... That is absolutely amazing!  I managed to upgrade IE on my
Win 2k Adv Server today without rebooting it!  I have accomplished the
impossible!  We need a committee to study this!

(get your facts straight)

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:29 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 12:42pm, Roger Seielstad wrote:
> ... not to mention that you're running Redhat 7.2, which hasn't been 
> available for 16 months ...

  You can upgrade the OS (sans the kernel) without rebooting Linux.

  (You cannot even upgrade the *web browser* without rebooting Windows.)

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Kelly_Borndale


Check out Dameware Utilities.  I have their remote control package on my
servers and no issues what so ever.  Dameware also has various utilities
that come in handy as well.

~
-K.Borndale
IT Manager
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
"One man's ceiling is another man's floor"


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I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we upgraded from
8
to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers altogether, but considering that
my
servers are all over the world, I can't really do that.

On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are rock-solid, so
I
can't say for sure it's a problem.

I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware" still
scares management around here ("But who will you call for support?").

I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - no more 3rd
party remote control.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your stability. And
no,
I'm not joking. I've never once seen a system that was more stable with
that
installed than without it.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
>
>
> Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA
> server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
>
> Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking
> out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice
> monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are
> "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
>
> Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to
> the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and
> when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would
> never go down cleanly.
>
> In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2
> days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
>
> For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots
> aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling
> me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware
> and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa
> RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
> our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the
> servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate
> test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
> and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
>
> I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not
> bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep
> obscure bugs obscure.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Bill Kuhn - MCSE

So switch to rAdmin. It's not free (it is inexpensive though), and it beats hell out 
of PC/AW for stability and speed.

Seriously!

And yes - move to 2000 server and use Terminal Service in admin mode!

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:38 PM
To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we upgraded from 8
to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers altogether, but considering that my
servers are all over the world, I can't really do that.

On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are rock-solid, so I
can't say for sure it's a problem.

I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware" still
scares management around here ("But who will you call for support?").

I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - no more 3rd
party remote control.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your stability. And no,
I'm not joking. I've never once seen a system that was more stable with that
installed than without it.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA 
> server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> 
> Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking 
> out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> 
> Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to 
> the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> never go down cleanly.
> 
> In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 
> days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> 
> For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots 
> aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> 
> I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not 
> bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> obscure bugs obscure.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Glaman, Mark

Postfix is better

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Then run SendMail


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

I agree about PCAnywhere. Things definitely improved when we upgraded from 8
to 9. I'd like to pull it off my servers altogether, but considering that my
servers are all over the world, I can't really do that.

On the other hand, some of my servers with PCAnywhere 8 are rock-solid, so I
can't say for sure it's a problem.

I tried to talk my boss into letting me switch to VNC, but "freeware" still
scares management around here ("But who will you call for support?").

I'm really looking forward to win2k and terminal services - no more 3rd
party remote control.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your stability. And no,
I'm not joking. I've never once seen a system that was more stable with that
installed than without it.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA 
> server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> 
> Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking 
> out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> 
> Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to 
> the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> never go down cleanly.
> 
> In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 
> days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> 
> For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots 
> aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> 
> I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not 
> bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> obscure bugs obscure.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett 
>  
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

Fix it how? Who's the vendor that I can go to and say "fix it!"? Microsoft?
Legato?

Even if I remove Legato and PCAnywhere from my servers so that it is
Microsoft only, do you think Microsoft is going to send engineers out here
to track down why our IS does not shut down cleanly after the server has
been running for months?

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Yeah, and then you fix it.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The fact that some people can smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a day and still
live to be 90 years old doesn't mean that cigarettes aren't dangerous.
Likewise, the fact that you (and others) can run problem-free computer
systems without rebooting doesn't mean there aren't bugs in the software. It
simply means that people have different computer environments. Different
users, different software, different networks, hell, maybe different gamma
rays - who knows?

The simple fact is that NT and Exchange (and other auxiliary software like
backup agents and remote-control) are not bug-free, nor will they ever be.
Some bugs, when tickled, create subtle "corruption" (overwriting a random
memory location, locking a resource, whatever). Eventually, some vital organ
is hit and the system gets sick...

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
Jam

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread William Lefkovics

That's what I wanted, yes.


-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The suite works.  I've never had to nor wanted to change solutions.  What do
you want a resume?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Seriously?

What makes you so emphatic about that?

William

-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The Legato Networker Client is a fine addition to any *well managed*
Exchange server.  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. I

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Jim Helfer

>
>  You can upgrade the OS (sans the kernel) without rebooting Linux.
>
>  (You cannot even upgrade the *web browser* without rebooting Windows.)


  You are wrong.  A reboot won't upgrade the web browser on Windows. Rather,
you muist install, reboot and Log in a 2nd time *as an administrator* to
upgrade a web browser.  failure to do this disables the machine. 

  Jim "Who let down one of the "good users" last weekend because of that
nonsense" Helfer

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Thank's for that link. It's a hell of a lot better then the one I was
using


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


www.insecure.org/nmap

Nmap is the best port scanner, around..
well, at least for the 7337...

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap? What's that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55

> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
> 2000 Servers. I have looked 

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 12:42pm, Roger Seielstad wrote:
> ... not to mention that you're running Redhat 7.2, which hasn't been
> available for 16 months ...

  You can upgrade the OS (sans the kernel) without rebooting Linux.

  (You cannot even upgrade the *web browser* without rebooting Windows.)

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, at 11:58am, Roger Seielstad wrote:
> And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
> hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

  Can we keep the FUD off this list?  This is patently false.

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Baker, Jennifer

The suite works.  I've never had to nor wanted to change solutions.  What do
you want a resume?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Seriously?

What makes you so emphatic about that?

William

-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The Legato Networker Client is a fine addition to any *well managed*
Exchange server.  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washing

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread King, John

Actually you could patch a running Linux kernel, well kind of..  If you
follow the virtual Linux server stuff.  It gets confusing, but you can run
many 'virtual' servers on top of a real server.  Each virtual server, is
considered it's own node..
http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/

Patching a Linux kernel and not rebooting, is like saying that you can apply
Win2k SP2 and not reboot.

Besides if he uses IPtables, TCPwrappers, PortSentry to block TCP/IP/UDP
ports that arn't being used, then how do you exploit kernel level security
holes..?

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Seeing as its impossible to patch a running kernel without rebooting a Linux
box, not to mention that you're running Redhat 7.2, which hasn't been
available for 16 months, I'd like to know how you've not rebooted during
that time. Or are all those kernel holes still there.

Now - the exchange servers, which average a few thousand messages an hour,
moderate use, have been up 130 days since restarting, and that was the
result of system level updates.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 
> 216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page 
> to prove it but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you 
> $50 if you get through.good luck cause your going to need it
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging 
> and collaboration services off your Linux box?
> 
> And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there 
> have been a few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 
> 16 months...
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
> software I run 
> > on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> > over 1 year 4 months
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> > Mynhier
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > But why are the reboots required?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to 
> reboot our MSX55 
> > servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> > for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> > 
> > It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> > they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it 
> verif

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

Seeing as its impossible to patch a running kernel without rebooting a Linux
box, not to mention that you're running Redhat 7.2, which hasn't been
available for 16 months, I'd like to know how you've not rebooted during
that time. Or are all those kernel holes still there.

Now - the exchange servers, which average a few thousand messages an hour,
moderate use, have been up 130 days since restarting, and that was the
result of system level updates.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 
> 216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page 
> to prove it but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you 
> $50 if you get through.good luck cause your going to need it
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging 
> and collaboration services off your Linux box?
> 
> And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there 
> have been a few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 
> 16 months...
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
> software I run 
> > on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> > over 1 year 4 months
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> > Mynhier
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Hmmmmm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps....
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > But why are the reboots required?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to 
> reboot our MSX55 
> > servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> > for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> > 
> > It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> > they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it 
> verifies that 
> > any service running at the time of reboot is running after 
> the reboot.
> > 
> > Sends email showing the results.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
> > 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have 
> found next 
> > to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is 
> on our Mail 
> > server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday 
> night

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread King, John

www.insecure.org/nmap

Nmap is the best port scanner, around..
well, at least for the 7337...

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap? What's that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
> 
&g

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

And this isn't the same Linux box. Same config though. This one runs my
website. I had to take it down cause I added more Ram in it. I'm not
giving out the IP to my work one.
-Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israe

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Nmap? What's that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail

> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisr

RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread King, John

Nmap gives it a good score..
As long as you are keeping your SSH protocal up to date, looks good..

Uptime 35.809 days (since Tue Mar 19 18:58:40 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3677580 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Muqeem Syed

I would agree with Soysal on this instead locate which application
is causing the memory leak... lots of times... guys.. I have worked on
SOlaris as well... so please no cursing on microsofft alone.. lots a
timess theres so many apps that cause memory leaks on solaris as well..
and the resolution was to be able to locate the app and fix the bugs on
it. 


-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I
want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If
anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andy David

Why am I not surprised.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Exchange 5.5 has NEVER blue screened a box

-Original Message-
From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:05 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


You mean like BSOD..?

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Which still doesn't do half what Exchange does.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail
> server on Linux it would be qmail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Then run SendMail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the
> software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
> need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Martin Blackstone

Ill probe it

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is 216.210.178.29
If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it but don't do
anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get through.good luck
cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run 
> on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in 
> over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55 
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that 
> they do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 
> 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next 
> to nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
> server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a 
> certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would 
> greatly appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Nothing that a cron job running up2date can't fix. The IP is
216.210.178.29 If you can get in, then change the front page to prove it
but don't do anything destructive. I'll give you $50 if you get
through.good luck cause your going to need it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and
collaboration services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a
few hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the
> software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
> need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Which is why I use exchange


-Original Message-
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Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Which still doesn't do half what Exchange does.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail
> server on Linux it would be qmail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Then run SendMail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the
> software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
> need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread King, John

You mean like BSOD..?

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Which still doesn't do half what Exchange does.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail 
> server on Linux it would be qmail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Then run SendMail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
> software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
> need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

Which still doesn't do half what Exchange does.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail 
> server on Linux it would be qmail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Then run SendMail
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
> software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
> need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

And just how many people are provided exterprise messaging and collaboration
services off your Linux box?

And what's the IP so I can drop it like a rock, since there have been a few
hundred security flaws in Linux over the last 16 months...

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the 
> software I run on my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the 
> need to reboot it in over 1 year 4 months
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Stephen Mynhier
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Oh I don't think it's exchange's fault. I think it's other programs
included with windows, IIS ect ect


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger
Seielstad
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The 2 dozen Exchange boxes I have around here seem to not have a problem
with memory management. What are you doing wrong on yours?

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> Fax: 202-842-0991
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.newisraelfund.org
> 
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

Take PCAnywhere off the box and see if that improves your stability. And no,
I'm not joking. I've never once seen a system that was more stable with that
installed than without it.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA 
> server weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.
> 
> Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking 
> out after a month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice 
> monthly is probably overkill, but since the reboots are 
> "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice monthly.
> 
> Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to 
> the reboots, we would occasionally start seeing errors, and 
> when we tried to manually reboot, the exchange services would 
> never go down cleanly.
> 
> In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 
> days. We've not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.
> 
> For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots 
> aren't needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling 
> me how reboots aren't required if you have quality hardware 
> and good admin practices. The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa 
> RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise, 
> our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the 
> servers unless we fully understand and test first on separate 
> test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT 
> and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.
> 
> I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not 
> bug-free. I've found that periodic reboots tend to keep 
> obscure bugs obscure.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
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>  
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

The 2 dozen Exchange boxes I have around here seem to not have a problem
with memory management. What are you doing wrong on yours?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot 
> our MSX55 servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly 
> for IMS, weekly for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for 
> what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do indeed stop). After the reboot is 
> complete, it verifies that any service running at the time of 
> reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000 Servers. I have looked on the their website and 
> have found next to nothing about how to do this. What I am 
> trying to do is on our Mail server I want to have the machine 
> reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone 
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly 
> appreciate the information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> James Cornett
> 
> Network Administrator
> New Israel Fund
> 1101 14th Street, NW
> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
> Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Roger Seielstad

But you're not looking to see what's causing the issue. Find the cuprit
through perfmon and fix that.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event 
> Viewer says Memory is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? 
> ignore that for anywhere from a few days to a few weeks, then 
> OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients outboxes slowly fill 
> up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When this 
> happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have 
> stopped, and Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and 
> all is well again for a few days up to a few weeks.  I intend 
> to order Win2K Server Resource Kit to get shutdown.exe, and 
> schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > But why are the reboots required?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to 
> reboot our MSX55 
> > servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly 
> > for OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> > 
> > It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and
> > verifies that they do
> > indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> > any service
> > running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> > 
> > Sends email showing the results.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of
> > Windows 2000
> > Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found 
> > next to nothing
> > about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
> > server I want to
> > have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain 
> > time. If anyone
> > knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
> > information.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _
> > James Cornett 
> >  
> > Network Administrator
> > New Israel Fund
> > 1101 14th Street, NW
> > Sixth Floor
> > Washington, DC 20005
> > Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
> > Fax: 202-842-0991
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Kelly_Borndale


I don't have this issue with any of my MS based servers.  Last time any of
them were rebooted it was because we were physically moving them.  Oh, and
there was a Great Plains install.

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Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Ah sendmail sucks. No public folders. If I was to run a mail server on
Linux it would be qmail


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:34 AM
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Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Then run SendMail


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Then run SendMail


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Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:22 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
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Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Woodruff, Michael

Yeah, and then you fix it.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:26 PM
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Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The fact that some people can smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a day and still
live to be 90 years old doesn't mean that cigarettes aren't dangerous.
Likewise, the fact that you (and others) can run problem-free computer
systems without rebooting doesn't mean there aren't bugs in the software. It
simply means that people have different computer environments. Different
users, different software, different networks, hell, maybe different gamma
rays - who knows?

The simple fact is that NT and Exchange (and other auxiliary software like
backup agents and remote-control) are not bug-free, nor will they ever be.
Some bugs, when tickled, create subtle "corruption" (overwriting a random
memory location, locking a resource, whatever). Eventually, some vital organ
is hit and the system gets sick...

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

The fact that some people can smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a day and still
live to be 90 years old doesn't mean that cigarettes aren't dangerous.
Likewise, the fact that you (and others) can run problem-free computer
systems without rebooting doesn't mean there aren't bugs in the software. It
simply means that people have different computer environments. Different
users, different software, different networks, hell, maybe different gamma
rays - who knows?

The simple fact is that NT and Exchange (and other auxiliary software like
backup agents and remote-control) are not bug-free, nor will they ever be.
Some bugs, when tickled, create subtle "corruption" (overwriting a random
memory location, locking a resource, whatever). Eventually, some vital organ
is hit and the system gets sick...

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Funny thing is I never have this problem on any of the software I run on
my Linux box. In fact there hasn't been the need to reboot it in over 1
year 4 months

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen
Mynhier
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Hm I'm guessing leaky memory in third party aps

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:24 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Stephen Mynhier

He doesn't have much on his social calendars for Sundays

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread William Lefkovics

Seriously?

What makes you so emphatic about that?

William

-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


The Legato Networker Client is a fine addition to any *well managed*
Exchange server.  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Baker, Jennifer

The Legato Networker Client is a fine addition to any *well managed*
Exchange server.  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




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Re: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Daniel Chenault

Why? There's typically no need to do this. There is, however, a tool in the
Win2K resource kit (IIRC) that will do this. But, again, why?

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Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
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have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andrew Chan

Personally, I think the Legato Networker Client is not a good addition
on the box.  I bet you will experience less of the problem if you
uninstall it.  Of course, you then have to think of some other way of
backing up your Exchange.  H Decisions, decisions...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:57 AM
Posted To: DiscussionGroup
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably
due to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a
large scale. Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you
don't just cover it up, but you keep working with the software vendors
to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server
weekly, we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a
month or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably
overkill, but since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we
go for twice monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots,
we would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've
not tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't
needed: please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots
aren't required if you have quality hardware and good admin practices.
The boxes are HP netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC
disk arrays. Likewise, our administration is VERY conservative. We do
nothing to the servers unless we fully understand and test first on
separate test systems. The only software on these boxes other than NT
and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've
found that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
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New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Soysal, Serdar

IMS and mailbox servers have been extremely stable in my experience.
However OWA5.5 does puke regularly under heavy load.  That is probably due
to the fact that the product was never designed to be used on a large scale.
Still, the fact remains that if you have a problem, you don't just cover it
up, but you keep working with the software vendors to fix the problem.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
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Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Woodruff, Michael

Sir,

How do you explain the folks who run this stuff everyday without any
(or little:-)) errors?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
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Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying your
head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

Because ASP gets senile quickly. If we don't reboot the OWA server weekly,
we start seeing ASP errors on the OWA server.

Likewise, we can count on the IMS servers to start flaking out after a month
or two if we don't reboot them. Twice monthly is probably overkill, but
since the reboots are "free" (ie: users never notice), we go for twice
monthly.

Mailbox servers tend to be a bit more stable, but prior to the reboots, we
would occasionally start seeing errors, and when we tried to manually
reboot, the exchange services would never go down cleanly.

In honesty, we started these reboots in the NT SP5 & MSX SP2 days. We've not
tried reducing them since we went to 6a & SP3.

For the people on the list who insist that periodic reboots aren't needed:
please save yourselves the effort of telling me how reboots aren't required
if you have quality hardware and good admin practices. The boxes are HP
netservers, lotsa RAM and CPU, and are running on EMC disk arrays. Likewise,
our administration is VERY conservative. We do nothing to the servers unless
we fully understand and test first on separate test systems. The only
software on these boxes other than NT and Exchange is PCAnywhere and Legato
networker client.

I like Exchange. I like Exchange a lot. But it is not bug-free. I've found
that periodic reboots tend to keep obscure bugs obscure.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Chuck Bryant

I was wondering that myself; even after a few hours Event Viewer says
Memory
is Fragmented blah blah. I can safely? ignore that for anywhere from a
few
days to a few weeks, then OWA will stop working, then MAPI clients
outboxes
slowly fill up with half-sent things and mail delivery ceases.  When
this
happens I take a few minutes looking at Services - None have stopped,
and
Event logs, nothing obvious to me. I reboot and all is well again for a
few
days up to a few weeks.  I intend to order Win2K Server Resource Kit to
get
shutdown.exe, and schedule it for latenight Saturdays.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> But why are the reboots required?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
> servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, 
> weekly for
> OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.
> 
> It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and 
> verifies that they do
> indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that 
> any service
> running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.
> 
> Sends email showing the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of 
> Windows 2000
> Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found 
> next to nothing
> about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail 
> server I want to
> have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain 
> time. If anyone
> knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
> information.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>  
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> Sixth Floor
> Washington, DC 20005
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Adam Romain

You have leaky memory.

Performance monitor, Task manager.  Use these tools to find the culprit
and then . Chop it out/upgrade etc...

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 April 2002 17:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

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But why are the reboots required?


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From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




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1101 14th Street, NW
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Christopher Hummert

Due to MS wonder memory management in Win2K

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they
do indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any
service running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to
nothing about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail
server I want to have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a
certain time. If anyone knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would
greatly appreciate the information.




_
James Cornett

Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andy David

But why are the reboots required?


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
James Cornett  
Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Ken Cornetet

If you are into Perl, I've got a script that I use to reboot our MSX55
servers (monthly for mailbox servers, twice monthly for IMS, weekly for
OWA). It could undoubtedly be tweaked for what you want.

It shuts down the MSX services before the reboot (and verifies that they do
indeed stop). After the reboot is complete, it verifies that any service
running at the time of reboot is running after the reboot.

Sends email showing the results.

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
James Cornett  
Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Andy David

Yup. No one knew it was me until Daphne pulled off my thong.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Are you the guy from the haunted amusement park??

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And I would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for you meddling admins.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


 e???   

Why on earth would you want to do that?

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
1101 14th Street, NW
Sixth Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Phone: 202-842-0900 ext. 269
Fax: 202-842-0991
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.newisraelfund.org


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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

2002-04-24 Thread Jeremy I. Shannon

Using the shutdown tool from systernals, psshutdown, you could write a batch file and 
put into the task scheduler.  
http://www.systernals.com/ntw2k/freeware/pstools.shtml
-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


 e???   

Why on earth would you want to do that?

-Original Message-
From: James Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Does anyone know how to schedule the automatic rebooting of Windows 2000
Servers. I have looked on the their website and have found next to nothing
about how to do this. What I am trying to do is on our Mail server I want to
have the machine reboot say every Sunday night at a certain time. If anyone
knows how to do this in Windows 2000 I would greatly appreciate the
information.




_
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Network Administrator
New Israel Fund
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Fax: 202-842-0991
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