Re: [expert] Fax gui frontend

2002-08-25 Thread dfox

 Is there any such beast as a graphical frontend to the hylafax package? It 
 would need to deal with received faxes too, not just sending faxes (be nice 
 to preview what the fax program is planning to send).

ksendfax (part of kde) might be a possibility, but I don't know if it
would tailor itself to hylafax, although in a awy I don't see why
it wouldn't. sendfax (or 'fax send') itself is a 'front end', and
in reality, hylafax is more like sendmail, a transport agent, than
an app that sends faxes (applies to mgetty+sendfax too). 

I ran hylafax for a little while, but now I don't have a modem (just
DSL) and therefore can't send faxes :(. I did experiment with methods
of sending faxes in Star Office, but that didn't work all that well -
multiple page faxes were a problem. Still, sending a fax is 1% (or
less) actually transmission, and the rest is editing/previewing, 
which can be done in any editor, somewhat like printing is. And 
receiving - the fax subsystem (hylafax) should do all that auto-
matically, all the user needs to do is see what was faxed and/or
print it - and there are several tiff / g3 type viewers available.

 praedor



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Re: [expert] Fax gui frontend

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Holt

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Praedor Tempus uttered these words of wisdom:

I have installed and am using the hylafax package on my 8.2 system.  I have 
never used this software before, nor any other linux fax software.  I have 
tried sending a fax via CLI (which appears to be the only method available) 
but do not yet know whether or not I was successful.  As for receiving a 
fax...

Are there any GUIs for hylafax?  I have seen several listed for efax and 
sendfax, but since I am using hylafax, I have simply fax (ie, fax send 
number filename.  Simple enough in principal but I would prefer a 
frontend that anyone could use (I wont get my wife to do CLI stuff).

Is there any such beast as a graphical frontend to the hylafax package? It 
would need to deal with received faxes too, not just sending faxes (be nice 
to preview what the fax program is planning to send).

praedor

I've just recently setup hylafax on my laptop but I don't really use it
that often, so I'm wingin' it.  I use Staroffice 6.0 and just setup
another printer for faxes.  When you fax, you just hit print and then
select fax and it will bring up a dialog box asking for the number.  From
there, I use gfax to see the job status.  I hope this helps.

/mike

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[expert] Fax gui frontend

2002-08-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have installed and am using the hylafax package on my 8.2 system.  I have 
never used this software before, nor any other linux fax software.  I have 
tried sending a fax via CLI (which appears to be the only method available) 
but do not yet know whether or not I was successful.  As for receiving a 
fax...

Are there any GUIs for hylafax?  I have seen several listed for efax and 
sendfax, but since I am using hylafax, I have simply fax (ie, fax send 
number filename.  Simple enough in principal but I would prefer a 
frontend that anyone could use (I wont get my wife to do CLI stuff).

Is there any such beast as a graphical frontend to the hylafax package? It 
would need to deal with received faxes too, not just sending faxes (be nice 
to preview what the fax program is planning to send).

praedor



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Re: [expert] Fax gui frontend

2002-08-13 Thread Derek Jennings

On Tuesday 13 Aug 2002 1:07 pm, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 I have installed and am using the hylafax package on my 8.2 system.  I have
 never used this software before, nor any other linux fax software.  I have
 tried sending a fax via CLI (which appears to be the only method available)
 but do not yet know whether or not I was successful.  As for receiving a
 fax...

 Are there any GUIs for hylafax?  I have seen several listed for efax and
 sendfax, but since I am using hylafax, I have simply fax (ie, fax send
 number filename.  Simple enough in principal but I would prefer a
 frontend that anyone could use (I wont get my wife to do CLI stuff).

 Is there any such beast as a graphical frontend to the hylafax package? It
 would need to deal with received faxes too, not just sending faxes (be nice
 to preview what the fax program is planning to send).

 praedor


kdeprintfax may be configured to use either hylafax or efax as a backend.  
In KDE the CUPS pseudo fax printer will launch kdeprintfax.  I do not know how 
well it works with hylafax since I use efax.

derek





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Re: [expert] Fax gui frontend

2002-08-13 Thread Dave Sherman

On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 07:07, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 I have installed and am using the hylafax package on my 8.2 system.  I have 
 never used this software before, nor any other linux fax software.  I have 
 tried sending a fax via CLI (which appears to be the only method available) 
 but do not yet know whether or not I was successful.  As for receiving a 
 fax...
 
 Are there any GUIs for hylafax?  I have seen several listed for efax and 
 sendfax, but since I am using hylafax, I have simply fax (ie, fax send 
 number filename.  Simple enough in principal but I would prefer a 
 frontend that anyone could use (I wont get my wife to do CLI stuff).
 
 Is there any such beast as a graphical frontend to the hylafax package? It 
 would need to deal with received faxes too, not just sending faxes (be nice 
 to preview what the fax program is planning to send).

Praedor,

If you check www.hylafax.org, you will find a link to several GUI
front-ends, for both Windows and *nix. They generally either use a
shared network printer emulation, or a Samba shared folder for incoming
and outgoing faxes. You can also set up HylaFax to receive email, and
automatically fax an email message if it is in the proper format.

On my system, received faxes are emailed to the fax admin as attachments
(they can also be accessed through a Samba network share, either in
Network Neighborhood or using one of the GUI clients). Faxes are sent
using the GUI front-end (which is Samba-based) or simply via Network
Neighborhood, placing the outgoing fax into a network shared for
outgoing faxes.

All in all, HylaFax is a pretty slick package with tons of
functionality, if a bit complicated at times.

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Re: [expert] Fax gui frontend

2002-08-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

On Tuesday 13 August 2002 07:36 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Tuesday 13 Aug 2002 1:07 pm, Praedor Tempus wrote:
  I have installed and am using the hylafax package on my 8.2 system.  I
  have never used this software before, nor any other linux fax software. 
  I have tried sending a fax via CLI (which appears to be the only method
  available) but do not yet know whether or not I was successful.  As for
  receiving a fax...
[...]
 kdeprintfax may be configured to use either hylafax or efax as a backend.
 In KDE the CUPS pseudo fax printer will launch kdeprintfax.  I do not know
 how well it works with hylafax since I use efax.

I am having problems with hylafax, it seems.  I have a modem on the basic 
/dev/modem device (a linmodem in my laptop).  If I do fax send phone 
number filename, which is efax I believe(?), I get a dialtone, dialout, 
and negotiation. My fax fails to send however.  

I then tried ksendfax (printing to fax) in cups.  It doesn't do anything.  
The fax is qeued up and it says, in the blink of an eye, that the fax is 
being sent.  It isn't.  No dialtone heard, no dialing, no negotiation.  I 
tried it with ksendfax setup for hylafax and for efax.  Neither works.

Here's the output in /var/log/messages wrt my latest hylafax attempt via 
ksendfax:

Aug 13 08:00:51 lapdog FaxSend[7623]: MODEM LT V.90 DATA+FAX MODEM VERSION 
6.00 LT V.90 Data+Fax Modem Version 6.00/
Aug 13 08:00:52 lapdog FaxSend[7623]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 4.1
Aug 13 08:00:52 lapdog FaxSend[7623]: SEND FAX: JOB 3 DEST 4962915 COMMID 
0003
Aug 13 08:00:52 lapdog FaxSend[7623]: DEVICE '/dev/modem'
Aug 13 08:00:54 lapdog FaxQueuer[7626]: Missing ':' separator in modem group 
specification
Aug 13 08:00:54 lapdog FaxQueuer[7626]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 4.1
Aug 13 08:00:54 lapdog FaxQueuer[7626]: Copyright (c) 1990-1996 Sam Leffler
Aug 13 08:00:54 lapdog FaxQueuer[7626]: Copyright (c) 1991-1996 Silicon 
Graphics, Inc.
Aug 13 08:00:55 lapdog FaxQueuer[7579]: FIFO: JOB 3 not found for msg c
Aug 13 08:00:57 lapdog FaxQueuer[7627]: usage: faxq [-q queue-directory] [-D]
Aug 13 08:01:59 lapdog FaxSend[7623]: SEND FAILED: JOB 3 DEST 4962915 ERR No 
carrier detected





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