Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute--mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... eric Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Adams wrote: BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. Pulse Code Modulation (digital audio) - -- KevinO AMAZING BUT TRUE ... If all the salmon caught in Canada in one year were laid end to end across the Sahara Desert, the smell would be absolutely awful. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/ufCOWOfRC7Rnmv8RAq9QAJ9l9ROm+XUaNd67OMGMtgqntkjNRQCeP3aQ AEtHAqiNO0R2u+HOSTE+URM= =Gmxq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers somewhere. My next trick, since I cannot build a 9.1 kernel on 9.2 is to simply try installing a binary 9.1 kernel on my desktop and see if I can get away with that. No 9.2 kernel I've tried, binary or self-built, works with sound on my system. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 04:29 am, Michael Adams wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. [...] Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute--mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... [...] Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is Pcm as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uj7PaKr9sJYeTxgRAto8AKC6mAgM4yfZ8Nb7XB7M2F4xjjbKfgCbB/Oj roQ0lcFthArbg2ahWzaG5vU= =DD7S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers somewhere. This may not be any help, but this just came through Cooker Bug, and I don't see that anyone mentioned kernel boot parameters. NOTE his *last* sentence: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5821 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-18 18:39 --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added nolapic to my append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was fine. -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks. Actually, I DO suspect apic/apci (I can never keep the two straight). If I disable APIC in the kernel, then 9.2 will not bootup. It freezes shortly after starting the bootup process. This was true during install as well. I had to turn on APIC to get bootup and install. I have tried the noapic switch when booting kernels but it doesn't change anything (still no sound). I have acpi=ht in my kernel options line in lilo (default setup from install). I have tried acpi=off but this doesn't change anything either (still no sound). Somewhere there is a problem in the kernel or the alsa drivers, or perhaps both. It is suspicious that it is impossible to boot a kernel if APIC is disabled (all previous installs of Mandrake up to 9.1 required that I disable APIC in bios to get a fully functional and stable system). SuSE 9.0 uses a modified 2.4.21 kernel (modified with many 2.6.x additions) and it works fine, sound included. I suspect the 2.4.22 kernel series itself. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:09 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the [...] --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added nolapic to my append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was fine. - -- Events are in the saddle and ride mankind. - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/umZkaKr9sJYeTxgRAg8BAKCCT1IhPdu/i2DPOZnUkL+qc8VkOwCfd3tb 5zqAPUMyDRqHsgx4gWlfQ2k= =/H99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. I have an MSI KT333 mobo with via 8233 onboard sound. It worked fine in 9.0 and 9.1, kernels up to 2.4.21-0.13mdk. With a temporary install of SuSE 9.0 (kernel-2.4.21) it worked fine too. Mandrake 9.2, however, no worky. There is something wrong with the mandrake and/or 2.4.22 kernel sound system. The hardware is perfectly OK. No matter what I try, I cannot get sound working. The mixer settings are OK, the driver loads OK, and there are no error messages related to sound anywhere on the system. The system thinks all is OK but there simply is no sound. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. Could I get away with deleting the 2.4.22 kernel sound directory and replacing it lock, stock, and barrel with the kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk sound directory? I want sound. No sound, no mandrake. Anyone have a fix? praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uYEq3Fc5zsI6lBMRAlGjAJ9mPNWjwou9BV9e8PtehEWSBwvxEQCgmsyV vpXkxSdn2xBe7m/ySyV9wvA= =vFTE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:58 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a fix? If you have a choice (OSS/ALSA), try them. I was feeling the same way (see bug at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=57 ). Have you tried rmmod sound and modprobe sound...? ll /dev/sound would also be useful I noticed that any of dsp, mixer, sequencer were missing at times... I've sometimes used kill artsd to get sound too... IMO, sound is in a really bad state -- I'm still running 9.2rc2; but will install 9.2 tomorrow, so the fun will probably start all over... :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute--mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the info but no joy. Sound is broken, plain and simple...so is draksound, apparently. If I fire up draksound and select another driver and go with the oss driver, it doesn't properly update modules.conf. It only partially updates it, leaving most of it setup for alsa. In any case, I totally remove the alsa crap from modules.conf and went oss. No sound. There is nothing wrong with the hardware. It is fine and it works. It works in windoze, it works in 9.1 and 9.0. It is 9.2 that is borked. I'll take a look at your bug link but it is looking like I will have to abandon 9.2 on my desktop and go to SuSE. Without working sound, I am not interested in a distro and it is not acceptable to me to have paid $80 and have to drop the new distro to go back to the previous working version (which is the only other option I can see at this point other than going to SuSE which I KNOW works with sound). Anyone else have suggestions? Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume controls, etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. On Monday 17 November 2003 09:35 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:58 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a fix? If you have a choice (OSS/ALSA), try them. I was feeling the same way (see bug at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=57 ). Have you tried rmmod sound and modprobe sound...? ll /dev/sound would also be useful I noticed that any of dsp, mixer, sequencer were missing at times... I've sometimes used kill artsd to get sound too... IMO, sound is in a really bad state -- I'm still running 9.2rc2; but will install 9.2 tomorrow, so the fun will probably start all over... :P -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uZh+3Fc5zsI6lBMRApcxAKCjxzz4M6UIDg6YMSvfSkyQ6wPLxgCggy1Y b1Y8raT3RI007TaA8pDvoQA= =2syH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:35 -0500, Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?: Anyone else have suggestions? Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume controls, etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. You have a registration number which you can use in case of last resort to get the help if you can`t get it here at www.mandrakeexpert.com. Good luck. (Stupid question, forgimme... did you check all the cabling? It didn`t by accident get loose anywhere?). Best regards, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uZzewC/zk+cxEdMRAjgnAJ9xdRRaRoTQEdlU08jCdFfyDrwUOgCgiIp4 lAQnkzZhgrHGC/qfgEonMyQ= =GCWw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, I did check the wires. Last resort hope for a fix. Everything is fine. It is especially irritating that there isn't an error message anywhere on the system to be found. As far as the system is concerned, sound is OK. I have one more thing to try before I give it up for the night. I am still hoping to keep mandrake on this system. It's all setup and the SuSE install and setup system is different enough to make it difficult to deal with. praedor On Monday 17 November 2003 11:15 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:35 -0500, Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?: Anyone else have suggestions? Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume controls, etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. You have a registration number which you can use in case of last resort to get the help if you can`t get it here at www.mandrakeexpert.com. Good luck. (Stupid question, forgimme... did you check all the cabling? It didn`t by accident get loose anywhere?). Best regards, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uZ+b3Fc5zsI6lBMRAnwlAKDAhbMK7/7L+vhgwCTZ4st6VK1DNgCeNr/m +RIfMKYfnD3SPT+8tA5ZLnE= =bqPw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
