Re: [Factor-talk] Desperate UI help

2015-02-23 Thread Jim Mack
Also consider having your ui consist of an embedded web browser that
browses to itself.  Factor serves web pages and can, IIRC, embed a web
browser under its control that browses to localhost.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:08 PM, John Benediktsson mrj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 The UI is a cross-platform interface built on OpenGL and we haven't
 implemented cross-platform popups or modal dialogs. The current popups are
 rendered into the window.

 However, we support on each platform calling any of the native UI's. So
 basically anything you can create on the native interface is available from
 within Factor, just not wrapped nicely and made available for
 cross-platform use.

 So basically, is there a way to call the native UI directly to solve your
 issue?

 Thanks,
 John,


  On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Mark Green m...@antelope.nildram.co.uk
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Most problems can render outside of their window if needed for a menu.
 For example, try shrinking your web browser window vertically so that only
 one line or so of the web page is visible, then right-clicking in the
 visible space.
 
  Mark
 
 
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Re: [Factor-talk] Desperate UI help

2015-02-21 Thread John Benediktsson
Hi Mark,

The UI is a cross-platform interface built on OpenGL and we haven't 
implemented cross-platform popups or modal dialogs. The current popups are 
rendered into the window.

However, we support on each platform calling any of the native UI's. So 
basically anything you can create on the native interface is available from 
within Factor, just not wrapped nicely and made available for cross-platform 
use. 

So basically, is there a way to call the native UI directly to solve your issue?

Thanks,
John,


 On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Mark Green m...@antelope.nildram.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Most problems can render outside of their window if needed for a menu. For 
 example, try shrinking your web browser window vertically so that only one 
 line or so of the web page is visible, then right-clicking in the visible 
 space.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: [Factor-talk] Desperate UI help

2015-02-21 Thread Mark Green
Hi,

Most problems can render outside of their window if needed for a menu. For
example, try shrinking your web browser window vertically so that only one
line or so of the web page is visible, then right-clicking in the visible
space.

Mark
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[Factor-talk] Desperate UI help

2015-02-21 Thread Mark Green
Hi folks,

I'm really sorry to have to post about this again but I'm getting flak at
this point and having to consider pulling a project off Factor because of
the difficulties with the UI library.

Is there any way to print or trace the behavior of UI objects so that I can
see why a model is behaving improperly and failing to feed its value on
activation?

Is there any way to allow show-menus to break the boundaries of their
window, as pop-up windows generally can?

Mark
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Re: [Factor-talk] Desperate UI help

2015-02-21 Thread Doug Coleman
Hey Mark,

Have you tried the ``watch`` word to print the stack before and after
calling a word? I would look at your code if you pastebin something that
doesn't work.

The problem with putting a breakpoint in the UI thread is that it starves
the single thread that Factor runs in and the UI can't update. I'm not sure
what to do about it yet.

I think in general you can't render outside of your window. Does anyone
know if it's possible and if it's good practice and which programs use it?
Maybe we could make it an actual popup or modal?

Doug

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Mark Green m...@antelope.nildram.co.uk
wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm really sorry to have to post about this again but I'm getting flak at
 this point and having to consider pulling a project off Factor because of
 the difficulties with the UI library.

 Is there any way to print or trace the behavior of UI objects so that I
 can see why a model is behaving improperly and failing to feed its value on
 activation?

 Is there any way to allow show-menus to break the boundaries of their
 window, as pop-up windows generally can?

 Mark



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