[FairfieldLife] Yugas and virtues
maanava-dharma-shaastra I 86: tapaH paraM kRtayuge tretaayaaM jñaanamucyate | dvaapare yajñamevaahurdaanamekaM kalau yuge || (tapaH paraM kRta-yuge tretaayaam; jñaanam ucyate | dvaapare yajñam eva+aahuH; daanam ekam; kalau yuge ||) 86. In the Krita age the chief (virtue) is declared to be (the performance of) austerities, in the Treta (divine) knowledge, in the Dvapara (the performance of) sacrifices, in the Kali liberality alone. tapaH (austerities) paraM (chief) kRta-yuge (in the kRta age) tretaayaam (in the treta); jñaanam (knowledge) ucyate (is declared) | dvaapare (in the dvaapara) yajñam (sacrifices) eva+aahuH; daanam (liberality) ekam (alone) kalau (in the kali) yuge (in the age) ||
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men
I read the book before I saw the movie and the scene that ends the movie appears about half way through the book. The movie and book are really about Tommy Lee Jones's character but most of what you you see on the screen and also in the book is about the josh Brolin character. Go figure. Its actually clearer in the book because the Jones' character introduces each chapter with a train of thought. They tried that in the movie, but i don't think it worked as well. --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't see it, Steve, but I have seen references to the ending. Even the producer's website has a link called Notes on the ending, which has, in turn, links to discussions of it. Visit http://www.nocountryforoldmen.com/. Thanks Gilster, I missed that. I'll check it out. Defininitely recommend it. Javier Bardem plays an awesome villian. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] 'Blacks/LBJ The Clinton Years'
I'm not quite sure what the Clinton's did for Black People. During the 90's Black neighborhoods collapsed, With an epidemic of crack cocaine, and the incarceration- Of tens of thousands of young black men. Many neigborhoods in the inner cities began collapsing. Jobs were sent overseas. During the reign of LBJ, this country came close to being completely ripped apart... It was the beginning of the great partisan divide... The Republicans want to take us back to the 50's. Do we really want to go back in time? - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] Kubera?
I think Benjamin Feldman is nowadays called 'Kubera-jii'. kubera or in later Sanskr2it %{kuvera} m. (originally) N. of a chief of the evil beings or spirits or darkness having the N. Vais3ravan2a AV. viii , 10 , 28 S3Br. c. ; (afterwards) the god of riches and treasure (regent of the northern quarter which is hence called % [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kum. iii , 25) Mn. MBh. c. ; (he is regarded as the son of Vis3ravas by Id2avid2a1 [BhP.] , the chief of the Yakshas , and a friend of Rudra [Hariv. 13131] ; he is represented as having three legs and only eight teeth ; with Jainas he is the attendant of the nineteenth Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1) ; N. of a prince of Devara1sht2ra ; of the great-grandfather of Ba1n2a- bhat2t2a (author of the Ka1dambari1) ; of the author of the Datta- candrika1 ; the tree Cedrela Toona ; (mfn.)* , deformed , monstrous L. ; slow , lazy L.** [*] mfn. = masculine-feminine-neuter: the word is used as an adjective whose gender depends on that of its head word. [**] L. = lexicographers (i.e. a word or meaning which although given in native lexicons, has not yet been met with in any published text). http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/mwview/index.php?sfx=pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: How do you grieve for someone you never really knew?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking aloud is often useful. Just about everything I've heard said in this forum, good and bad, about the Marshy Is your name Angus?
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Blacks/LBJ The Clinton Years'
In a message dated 1/14/08 6:26:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Republicans want to take us back to the 50's. Do we really want to go back in time? Right, black and white TV and everything. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?
Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches. On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:04 AM, cardemaister wrote: I think Benjamin Feldman is nowadays called 'Kubera-jii'. kubera or in later Sanskr2it %{kuvera} m. (originally) N. of a chief of the evil beings or spirits or darkness having the N. Vais3ravan2a AV. viii , 10 , 28 S3Br. c. ; (afterwards) the god of riches and treasure (regent of the northern quarter which is hence called % [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kum. iii , 25) Mn. MBh. c. ; (he is regarded as the son of Vis3ravas by Id2avid2a1 [BhP.] , the chief of the Yakshas , and a friend of Rudra [Hariv. 13131] ; he is represented as having three legs and only eight teeth ; with Jainas he is the attendant of the nineteenth Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1) ; N. of a prince of Devara1sht2ra ; of the great-grandfather of Ba1n2a- bhat2t2a (author of the Ka1dambari1) ; of the author of the Datta- candrika1 ; the tree Cedrela Toona ; (mfn.)* , deformed , monstrous L. ; slow , lazy L.** [*] mfn. = masculine-feminine-neuter: the word is used as an adjective whose gender depends on that of its head word. [**] L. = lexicographers (i.e. a word or meaning which although given in native lexicons, has not yet been met with in any published text). http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/mwview/index.php?sfx=pdf
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?
On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Vaj wrote: Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches. Does it work? I guess it might for some. It's a rather common and popular initiation in some quarters. Personally, I always preferred Tara.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Vaj wrote: Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches. Does it work? Sal Better to invoke Mahalakshmi. More wholistic than simply material wealth. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Fourth Uncle in the Mountain
Highly recommended. A review by Michael J. Wilson on www.amazon.com of *Fourth Uncle in the Mountain: The Remarkable Legacy of a Buddhist Itinerant Doctor in Vietnam (Paperback) by Marjorie Pivar In buddhist legend, meditation adepts attain a samadhi fantastic beyond description. This is Fourth Uncle. The magic, sorcery, and martial art stories give way to the natural magic of one pointed concentration - in the cave of the primoridal, original, and pristine mind. I enjoyed this book so much, in spite of the tragic backdrop of pre and post Vietnamese colonial history. There is a great human truth here, that goes beyond religions, in the narration that radiates out through the eyes of a child coming into adulthood. There is also a lot of what is called by aboriginal peoples, indigenous knowledge about Viet Nam, which sadly may be disappearing because of enviromental desecration. This book is also a hommage to the folk doctor tradition. This tradition, so vital to the revitalization of the human spirit, is also in danger of being marginalized by institutionalized medicine. Better that it be accommodated for what it is - natural wisdom. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/ 002-9790301-2891216?%5Fencoding=UTF8search-type=ssindex=booksfield- author=Marjorie%20Pivar http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/ 002-9790301-2891216?%5Fencoding=UTF8search-type=ssindex=booksfield- author=Quang%20Van%20Nguyen(Author) http://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Uncle-Mountain-Remarkable-Itinerant/dp/ 0312314310/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1200310734sr=8-1
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kubera?
On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Vaj wrote: Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches. Does it work? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jan. 12 Notes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend: Today was incredible. Nader Raam's farewell message to Maharishi, I will never forget. Maharishi is so fulfilled he is turning everything over to Nader Raam and 'the Invincible Raja of America' and all the ministers and Rajas. Nader Raam said something like, 'I know you said you would always be with me. I know that is true. But why, suddenly are you leaving me to be on my own... Words cannot express how much I adore you I cannot imagine opening my eyes and not be able to say Jai Guru Dev I will not be fulfilled again until I see you everywhere and in everyone in the world.. It was so moving. Many were in tears. Well, that takes care of Goneril. Who's gonna be Regan?
[FairfieldLife] ÊÚáã ÇááÛÉ ÇáÚÑÈíÉ /Arabic Lan guage Learning System
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[FairfieldLife] The latest mmy-hype
Hello, dear Rick, thx for posting the latest from the mmy-centre on your FFL. cheers Here is my point: One word to the latest hype around Mr. M. Planning is his shadow-part of his personality. It comes from a former life, where he was in charge, and planned, and built. These things still exist. And people look at it, wonder, and don`t understand, what they are meant for. The dark part of his inner side is: You should be happy according to my plans. There you get overshadowed, if you accept that. Look back into 1977. We where fresh and new. Coming out of the 6 months course, we all where hopping, and giving out new knowledge. And we where made competent to give these new courses. And we had several meditation academies in no time. 15 or more alone in germany. So the idea, big buildings would bring in something competent ? Think again. England. Mr. M. had some magnificient buildings. All bought. Mentmore Towers, Roydan Hall. So did those buildings bring in the people for meditation ? Did he have competent people filling them with knowledge ? Hardly. If someone shows you around and is impressed by the building alone, be sure he is some kind of museum guide. Nothing more. So if you follow a hollow plan, even throw in some money to make it happen, be sure to be disappointed. Things grow out of itself. But did people grow ? Do people radiate a new kind of thrill, enlightenment ? Or do they simply talk ? Be sure to next time distinguish between merely touristic set-ups, called courses, that mainly want your attendance, your silence, and nothing more. And those opportunities, that train you into more and bigger competence. Which later is acknowledged with success in society. And be careful. There are so many rotten buildings throughout history all over the globe, that where maybe important during their time, centuries ago. Pyramids, temples, whole cities. They all are empty and no one knows their real meaning. Reason ? No more competent people to run them. So pls. don`t ad some more incompetent block building. Maybe look into your heart, and see, what you really aspire for. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 1/13/2008 8:23 PM
[FairfieldLife] Kucinich Diamond: Clarity, Cut-above, CareLit Weight, and Colorful Spirit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--eVRYFd7kgfeature=user Here's a nice, sit-down-be-straight, calm, cogent talk with Kucinich. He comes off as SO REAL. They say he's a meditator, and in this video, he FEELS like one. He just lays it on the line so succinctly. MSNBC kicked him out of the debate they invited him to in Las Vegas -- this is so understandable when you see the video above -- they just don't want a debate where true core values have a hero like this. In his light, all the other offerings are sputtering candle flames comparatively. Edg.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I just saw this movie. Were there two endings, does anyone know? The ending I saw was lame- in IMO. No resolution, no bad guy getting offed. Just kind of absurd at the end. As usual the Cohen bros are playing with conventions. We expect the bad guy to get it in the end and the cop to now retire knowing he has no unfinished business. Instead we get something more akin to real life. Well, now that you guys have screwed up the movie for me with your spoilers, I might as well skip it. :-) Then again, I'm the kinda guy who would see the movie (or live the movie) even if I already *know* that things aren't going to get explained or wrap- ped up in neat little packages at the end. I'm on the road in France right now, and after the business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO versions of my Must See List while here. This film is one of them, *whatever* the ending.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest mmy-hype
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, dear Rick, thx for posting the latest from the mmy-centre on your FFL. cheers Here is my point: And be careful. There are so many rotten buildings throughout history all over the globe, that where maybe important during their time, centuries ago. Pyramids, temples, whole cities. They all are empty and no one knows their real meaning. Reason ? No more competent people to run them. So pls. don`t ad some more incompetent block building. And so many rotten people. Go back to your underground cave where you belong.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I just saw this movie. Were there two endings, does anyone know? The ending I saw was lame- in IMO. No resolution, no bad guy getting offed. Just kind of absurd at the end. As usual the Cohen bros are playing with conventions. We expect the bad guy to get it in the end and the cop to now retire knowing he has no unfinished business. Instead we get something more akin to real life. Well, now that you guys have screwed up the movie for me with your spoilers, I might as well skip it. :-) Then again, I'm the kinda guy who would see the movie (or live the movie) even if I already *know* that things aren't going to get explained or wrap- ped up in neat little packages at the end. I'm on the road in France right now, and after the business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO versions of my Must See List while here. This film is one of them, *whatever* the ending. How many times have you watched Fargo knowing well how it ends? I have watched it many times. It's the pleasure of watching the Cohen brothers craft of storytelling that keeps me coming back. And I'm looking forward to seeing No Country for Old Men again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?
Kubera is also considered the treasurer of the demigods. Hence, he may fulfilling this kind of role in the TMO. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kubera is often invoked to obtain riches. On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:04 AM, cardemaister wrote: I think Benjamin Feldman is nowadays called 'Kubera-jii'. kubera or in later Sanskr2it %{kuvera} m. (originally) N. of a chief of the evil beings or spirits or darkness having the N. Vais3ravan2a AV. viii , 10 , 28 S3Br. c. ; (afterwards) the god of riches and treasure (regent of the northern quarter which is hence called % [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kum. iii , 25) Mn. MBh. c. ; (he is regarded as the son of Vis3ravas by Id2avid2a1 [BhP.] , the chief of the Yakshas , and a friend of Rudra [Hariv. 13131] ; he is represented as having three legs and only eight teeth ; with Jainas he is the attendant of the nineteenth Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1) ; N. of a prince of Devara1sht2ra ; of the great-grandfather of Ba1n2a- bhat2t2a (author of the Ka1dambari1) ; of the author of the Datta- candrika1 ; the tree Cedrela Toona ; (mfn.)* , deformed , monstrous L. ; slow , lazy L.** [*] mfn. = masculine-feminine-neuter: the word is used as an adjective whose gender depends on that of its head word. [**] L. = lexicographers (i.e. a word or meaning which although given in native lexicons, has not yet been met with in any published text). http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/mwview/index.php?sfx=pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan (centre) of India
Om, this is beautiful. I can see the palm tree groves and the Palaces. The croquet, badminton and and the bowling greens. The cricket, and polo fields. It is beautiful. To which offshore account can I send money to help make this come true as soon as is, possible? Jai, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan (centre) of India by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 13 January 2008 During the auspicious celebration of 12 January at MERU Holland, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, asked that it be announced to the world that on this day the Capital of Raam Raj was established at the Brahmasthan* of India. This will be the ceremonial seat of silence of Maharaja Nader Raam, first sovereign ruler of the Global Country of World Peace, the Rajas (Administrators) and Ministers of the Global Country, and 16,000 Vedic Pandits. Dr Girish Chandra Varma, Director-General of the Maharishi World Capital of Peace at the Brahmasthan of India, reported that construction and facilities for 11,000 Vedic Pandits are now almost complete, along with 12 Palaces of Peace for the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace. This campus is being constructed on 50 acres of beautiful land of mango orchards, and another 30 palaces will be built soon for the Rajas along with buildings for the 12 Ministers of the Global Country. In the middle of the whole campus with be a beautiful palace for Maharaja Nader Raam. This will be the Global Capital of Raam Raj, Maharishi said, and also the Capital of Invincibility for all the Rajas, from where the administration of Brahm [Totality] will bless the world all the time. All the buildings are constructed and aligned with Natural Law according to the principles of Maharishi Sthapatya Veda, the Vedic science of architecture in accord with Natural Law. The Rajas will come and stay there and bless the area of 16,000 Vedic Pandits who will be performing both Yoga and Yagya morning and evening, Transcendental Meditation and the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme , including Yogic Flying. The Vedic Pandits will also be doing seven to eight hours of performance of Maharishi Yagyas every day. 'The Global Capital of Raam Raj will be the most beautiful place on earth, full of coherence and bliss and from there all the Rajas can sit and command the countries and territories of their domain,' Dr Varma said. Dr Varma said that the intention is that everything will be ready by Guru Purnima, the auspicious celebration of the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge on the full moon in July, and at that time it will be his joy to welcome and host both his Majesty Maharishi Nader Raam and all the Rajas at the capital of Raam Raj in the Brahmasthan of India. Dr Varma then announced that since the first of January about 700 Vedic Pandits are doing one Maha Rudra Bhishek [special Vedic peace- creating performance] every day in the Brahmasthan, and at two other locations in India. So every day three Maha Rudrabhishek are being performed. Maharishi then asked that it be announced that 'with this Raam Raj* has been established in three places. They are the Capitals of Raam Raj', and there will be representatives of Maharaja Nader Raam in each place. The Global Capital of Raam Raj will be at the Brahmasthan of India with 16,000 Vedic Pandits. Even if Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace are not physically present there at the Global Capital, there will be a group of Pandits for each Raja, and they will be permanently performing the Yagyas for the Raja's country, for the citizens and countries of their domain. * Brahmasthan: the central most auspicious center of Natural Law for the country Copyright © 2007 Global Good News(sm) Service. - Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men
TurquoiseB wrote: I'm on the road in France right now, and after the business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO versions of my Must See List while here. This film is one of them, *whatever* the ending. BTW, you might want to check out Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles which debuted on Fox last night. It has Summer Glau from your favorite series in it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: I'm on the road in France right now, and after the business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO versions of my Must See List while here. This film is one of them, *whatever* the ending. BTW, you might want to check out Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles which debuted on Fox last night. It has Summer Glau from your favorite series in it. Saw it some time ago in a pre-release version from Miro. It didn't suck at all, and it's great to see Summer again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consciousness researcher Stuart Hameroff, on the audience reaction to his talk at the 2006 Beyond Belief meeting (a gathering of mostly atheists) at the Salk Institute in La Jolla: Comments from the audience were negative, but off base. Physicist Lawrence Krauss said my suggestion of backward time effects in the quantum unconscious (indicated by experiments, and required to rescue consciousness from its unfortunate characterization as epiphenomenal illusion) were impossible. He was apparently unaware of the verification of Wheeler's delayed choice experiments which precisely prove such backward time effects For those who are interested, Wikipedia has a rundown on quantum mind theories, which is a good starting point and at least gives some idea of the issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind Wikipedia also has a nice brief discussion of the measurement problem and the falsifiability issue when concepts of consciousness become part of the theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. Still mostly philosophy and no real science on the big consciousness questions. Of course, this all could be a bunch of scientists getting way out of the realms of hard science, much like Linus Pauling and vitamin C.
[FairfieldLife] January 12'th celebrations
The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at http://maharishichannel.org/ Highly recommended !
[FairfieldLife] The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in theVedic City NOW?already?
Did we not several yrs ago contribute to Nader Ram place or palace in Vedic city why is he not or seldom present in his palace there? In a message dated 1/14/2008 3:20:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Om, this is beautiful. I can see the palm tree groves and the Palaces. The croquet, badminton and and the bowling greens. The cricket, and polo fields. It is beautiful. To which offshore account can I send money to help make this come true as soon as is, possible? Jai, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan (centre) of India by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News Translate This Article 13 January 2008 During the auspicious celebration of 12 January at MERU Holland, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, asked that it be announced to the world that on this day the Capital of Raam Raj was established at the Brahmasthan* of India. This will be the ceremonial seat of silence of Maharaja Nader Raam, first sovereign ruler of the Global Country of World Peace, the Rajas (Administrators) and Ministers of the Global Country, and 16,000 Vedic Pandits. Dr Girish Chandra Varma, Director-General of the Maharishi World Capital of Peace at the Brahmasthan of India, reported that construction and facilities for 11,000 Vedic Pandits are now almost complete, along with 12 Palaces of Peace for the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace. This campus is being constructed on 50 acres of beautiful land of mango orchards, and another 30 palaces will be built soon for the Rajas along with buildings for the 12 Ministers of the Global Country. In the middle of the whole campus with be a beautiful palace for Maharaja Nader Raam. This will be the Global Capital of Raam Raj, Maharishi said, and also the Capital of Invincibility for all the Rajas, from where the administration of Brahm [Totality] will bless the world all the time. All the buildings are constructed and aligned with Natural Law according to the principles of Maharishi Sthapatya Veda, the Vedic science of architecture in accord with Natural Law. The Rajas will come and stay there and bless the area of 16,000 Vedic Pandits who will be performing both Yoga and Yagya morning and evening, Transcendental Meditation and the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme , including Yogic Flying. The Vedic Pandits will also be doing seven to eight hours of performance of Maharishi Yagyas every day. 'The Global Capital of Raam Raj will be the most beautiful place on earth, full of coherence and bliss and from there all the Rajas can sit and command the countries and territories of their domain,' Dr Varma said. Dr Varma said that the intention is that everything will be ready by Guru Purnima, the auspicious celebration of the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge on the full moon in July, and at that time it will be his joy to welcome and host both his Majesty Maharishi Nader Raam and all the Rajas at the capital of Raam Raj in the Brahmasthan of India. Dr Varma then announced that since the first of January about 700 Vedic Pandits are doing one Maha Rudra Bhishek [special Vedic peace- creating performance] every day in the Brahmasthan, and at two other locations in India. So every day three Maha Rudrabhishek are being performed. Maharishi then asked that it be announced that 'with this Raam Raj* has been established in three places. They are the Capitals of Raam Raj', and there will be representatives of Maharaja Nader Raam in each place. The Global Capital of Raam Raj will be at the Brahmasthan of India with 16,000 Vedic Pandits. Even if Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace are not physically present there at the Global Capital, there will be a group of Pandits for each Raja, and they will be permanently performing the Yagyas for the Raja's country, for the citizens and countries of their domain. * Brahmasthan: the central most auspicious center of Natural Law for the country Copyright © 2007 Global Good News(sm) Service. - Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consciousness researcher Stuart Hameroff, on the audience reaction to his talk at the 2006 Beyond Belief meeting (a gathering of mostly atheists) at the Salk Institute in La Jolla: Comments from the audience were negative, but off base. Physicist Lawrence Krauss said my suggestion of backward time effects in the quantum unconscious (indicated by experiments, and required to rescue consciousness from its unfortunate characterization as epiphenomenal illusion) were impossible. He was apparently unaware of the verification of Wheeler's delayed choice experiments which precisely prove such backward time effects For those who are interested, Wikipedia has a rundown on quantum mind theories, which is a good starting point and at least gives some idea of the issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind Wikipedia also has a nice brief discussion of the measurement problem and the falsifiability issue when concepts of consciousness become part of the theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. Still mostly philosophy and no real science on the big consciousness questions. Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Consciousness researcher Stuart Hameroff, on the audience reaction to his talk at the 2006 Beyond Belief meeting (a gathering of mostly atheists) at the Salk Institute in La Jolla: Comments from the audience were negative, but off base. Physicist Lawrence Krauss said my suggestion of backward time effects in the quantum unconscious (indicated by experiments, and required to rescue consciousness from its unfortunate characterization as epiphenomenal illusion) were impossible. He was apparently unaware of the verification of Wheeler's delayed choice experiments which precisely prove such backward time effects For those who are interested, Wikipedia has a rundown on quantum mind theories, which is a good starting point and at least gives some idea of the issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind Wikipedia also has a nice brief discussion of the measurement problem and the falsifiability issue when concepts of consciousness become part of the theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_problem From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. Did you read what he wrote that I quoted?? Please go back and look at it again. If he is familiar with it, his comments were disingenuous. He suggested that the backward-in-time problem, for example, was a function of bad science on MMY/Hagelin's part, rather than an inherent--and experimentally proven, as Hameroff notes --paradox of QM. Still mostly philosophy and no real science on the big consciousness questions. Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose? Of course, this all could be a bunch of scientists getting way out of the realms of hard science, much like Linus Pauling and vitamin C. Of course the *interpretations* of QM--Copenhagen, many worlds, etc.--are out of the realm of hard science. But that's not in any way parallel to Pauling's ventures with vitamin C. The hard science of QM comprises a bunch of mathematics and experimental data that appears to contradict everything we think we know about how reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it. The only people really qualified to even guess at what QM means are those who at least grasp the math and the data.
[FairfieldLife] MUM student article in Edge Life mag
http://edgelife.net/article.php?id=0910
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at http://maharishichannel.org/ Highly recommended ! Thanks Nabby, I enjoyed it from my Asura level. Now let me get this straight... The most creative enlightened people in the world, in whose hands the future of world peace rests, and the hope for elimination of all suffering...these guys can't do a better animation job to illustrate this most important event in human history than my local Indian cable channel does on a weekly basis? Infantile, silly, uncreative, poor quality, shoddy computer work, poor sense of conveying information visually... If I was teaching a bunch of high school kids Web animation I would flunk this kid. I enjoyed the chanting. I can appreciate the ancient tradition of transmitting knowledge it represents. But it wasn't created by anyone in the movement. The video intro was. This is just my take on the intro. Now his immenseness Bevan Jabba the Hut Morris is speaking in his extra soft delicate voice. I'll give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done.
[FairfieldLife] Islamic Jesus
The bulk of Jesus, the Spirit of God, which won an award at the 2007 Religion Today Film Festival in Italy, faithfully follows the traditional tale of Jesus as recounted in the New Testament Gospels, a narrative reproduced in the Koran and accepted by Muslims. But in Talebzadeh's movie, God saves Jesus, depicted as a fair- complexioned man with long hair and a beard, from crucifixion and takes him straight to heaven. It is frankly said in the Koran that the person who was crucified was not Jesus but Judas, one of the 12 Apostles and the one the Bible holds betrayed Jesus to the Romans, he said. In his film, it is Judas who is crucified. Islam sees Jesus as one of five great prophets -- others being Noah, Moses and Abraham -- sent to earth to announce the coming of Mohammed, the final prophet who spread the religion of Islam. It respects Jesus' followers as people of the book. http://tinyurl.com/ysavuv
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose? Yes. They have theories but still no one knows anything really about the Mind, about consciousness. The hard science of QM comprises a bunch of mathematics and experimental data that appears to contradict everything we think we know about how reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it. The only people really qualified to even guess at what QM means are those who at least grasp the math and the data. No disagreement here. That is one of the wonders of science. When we begin to understand one thing, it opens the door to many new mysteries. Right now QMs is full of mysteries for science to explore. Whether what is learned will tell us anything about consciousness is subject to considerable debate and considerable doubt. I doubt any of us here of physicists. My background makes me at least a fair issue spotter. At best we are equipped to learn where there may be consensus, to determine what theories are being explored, and to have a very basic understanding of what the issues are regarding one theory or another. For us to try to draw conclusions about anything regarding QM is fun, but that is about it. Because theorists tend to get attached to their theories, we cannot even draw good conclusions about what they say is evidence in support of their theories unless there is pretty good consensus in the applicable scientific community.
[FairfieldLife] Fairfielder Jeffrey Headquist voice on new Ron Paul ad again
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JC6T2WTVN3Y
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at http://maharishichannel.org/ Highly recommended ! Still going on live right now. Report on the Pundits by Raja Wynne, now 535 in MVC, very interesting. http://maharishichannel.org channel nr 3
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
Bevan effeminately shames people for leaving ot go home. He thinks people should just stay as Maharishi requested. Just like his MIU routine after the Amherst course. Bevan sees anyone with personal obligations as disobeying MMY. Bevan shames the video picture guy for not having finished what was the idea last night in his mincingly condescending way. Nice touch. Ned Win tells a story about an Island Van Watu in the South Pacific the movement bought and a sidha who went there to raise a flag for MMY. Raja Win implied many miracles, friendly taxi guy (wow) seas filled with dolphins and flying fish. They met support every step of the way. Extra credit to Raja Win (sp?) for not talking in an affected manor. 47 minutes into the show discussion of the pundits. The pundits never travel anywhere without their Brahman cooks. How nice. No low born hands on the food. (Low born means anyone reading this.) Ned is delighted that the pundits never get a day off, ever. People can watch the pundits through one way glass so the prisoners, I mean pundits, don't get distracted. OK, I just lost an hour of my life. I think that is enough, I leave the Raja explaining the magical effect of how yagyas effect the world in excruciating detail, to a bunch of elite movement people who know the theory at least as well as he does. The guy doesn't even care if he is boring his audience with stuff they already know. He is just getting off on hearing him say stuff that MMY does is my guess why someone would explain beginner level mysticism principles to fellow experts in that same fantasy. I do love this stuff! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at http://maharishichannel.org/ Highly recommended ! Thanks Nabby, I enjoyed it from my Asura level. Now let me get this straight... The most creative enlightened people in the world, in whose hands the future of world peace rests, and the hope for elimination of all suffering...these guys can't do a better animation job to illustrate this most important event in human history than my local Indian cable channel does on a weekly basis? Infantile, silly, uncreative, poor quality, shoddy computer work, poor sense of conveying information visually... If I was teaching a bunch of high school kids Web animation I would flunk this kid. I enjoyed the chanting. I can appreciate the ancient tradition of transmitting knowledge it represents. But it wasn't created by anyone in the movement. The video intro was. This is just my take on the intro. Now his immenseness Bevan Jabba the Hut Morris is speaking in his extra soft delicate voice. I'll give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done.
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at http://maharishichannel.org/ Highly recommended ! Still going on live right now. Report on the Pundits by Raja Wynne, now 535 in MVC, very interesting. http://maharishichannel.org channel nr 3 I wish I could keep up with the dueling commentaries Nabby! I wish you could jump around instead of having to watch it all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues I do love this stuff! Me too :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done. Good. Just make sure you are back in your dark cave before the sun rises.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. snip Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
[FairfieldLife] The Truth According to Puppetji
The Truth According to Puppetji: http://www.puppetji.blogspot.com/ http://www.puppetji.blogspot.com/ [:x]
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. This wiki entry notes how Schroedinger was more mystical than many quantum scientists. Nevertheless, Schroedinger did not have much respect for what he called the lofty consequences people drew from quantum science. For example he knew that there was no evidence or any good theory for the proposition that consciousness influences an object being observed. It was an unsupported belief drawn from the fact that measuring devices interfere with objects under measurement. As he said: Sensations and thoughts do not belong to the world of energy. They cannot produce any change in the world of energy. . . (from My View of the World, Cambridge University Press, 1964). I especially like these quotes from the article: The scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It give a lot of factual information, puts all our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. . . .it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good and bad, God and eternity. Whence I come and whither I go? That is the great unfathomable question, the same for every one of us. Science has no answer to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose? Yes. They have theories but still no one knows anything really about the Mind, about consciousness. They're also doing some hard science that has a great deal to do with consciousness. The hard science of QM comprises a bunch of mathematics and experimental data that appears to contradict everything we think we know about how reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it. The only people really qualified to even guess at what QM means are those who at least grasp the math and the data. No disagreement here. Then why compare the physicists doing the guessing to Linus Pauling? That is one of the wonders of science. When we begin to understand one thing, it opens the door to many new mysteries. Right now QMs is full of mysteries for science to explore. Whether what is learned will tell us anything about consciousness is subject to considerable debate and considerable doubt. I doubt any of us here of physicists. My background makes me at least a fair issue spotter. At best we are equipped to learn where there may be consensus, to determine what theories are being explored, and to have a very basic understanding of what the issues are regarding one theory or another. For us to try to draw conclusions about anything regarding QM is fun, but that is about it. Because theorists tend to get attached to their theories, we cannot even draw good conclusions about what they say is evidence in support of their theories unless there is pretty good consensus in the applicable scientific community. No argument with any of this. But some here (e.g., Vaj) are doing just that nevertheless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Have you about read Hameroff's work, and that of Penrose? Yes. They have theories but still no one knows anything really about the Mind, about consciousness. They're also doing some hard science that has a great deal to do with consciousness. Well, that is what they believe. Others disagree. They are doing hard science but whether it tells us anything at all about consciousness is doubted. Interestingly, we still have no hard facts about consciousness at all. A more mystical question is whether we ever will know anything about consciousness. The hard science of QM comprises a bunch of mathematics and experimental data that appears to contradict everything we think we know about how reality is structured. As Bohr (I think) said, if you aren't shocked by QM, you don't understand it. The only people really qualified to even guess at what QM means are those who at least grasp the math and the data. No disagreement here. Then why compare the physicists doing the guessing to Linus Pauling? Because all their theories could end up going no where. They could all be wrong because to the extent any of their experiments teaches us anything about consciousness is still doubtful. They may be better at guessing than us, but it doesn't mean that they are right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The very inspiering celebrations are seen on channel 3 at http://maharishichannel.org/ Highly recommended ! Still going on live right now. Report on the Pundits by Raja Wynne, now 535 in MVC, very interesting. http://maharishichannel.org channel nr 3 I wish I could keep up with the dueling commentaries Nabby! I wish you could jump around instead of having to watch it all. Seeing the transfers from Vlodrop these past few days, and at this moment, has been a great joy. I had no idea of the enormous expansion that has been going on in yhe Movement all over the world, it is truly amazing. 45000 acres bought in Ukraine, huge land in Japan and South-America, the government of our dear friend Hugo donating the worlds first Maharishi Natural Park in Venezuela, and land bought all over the world on a truly grand scale. The doors of schools all over eastern europe is open to us to teach now, something marvelous must have happened during the last 4-5 years, all we have to do is walk in and teach. Amazing. Peace Palaces going up in all corners of the world. Truly great, very beautiful. What a gift and legacy Maharishi is leaving behind !
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 hours drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 12'th. Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 suites for Purusha. :-) It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA !
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'll give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done. Good. Just make sure you are back in your dark cave before the sun rises. Caves are for special spiritual homeless people Nabby. Exactly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: 208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 hours drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 12'th. Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 suites for Purusha. :-) It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA ! Real estate speculation is a joy? Is it the buying low or the selling high that feels good? You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are. No electricity in your cave I suppose...
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: 208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 hours drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 12'th. Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 suites for Purusha. :-) It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA ! Real estate speculation is a joy? Is it the buying low or the selling high that feels good?
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I'll give my report from my lower state of consciousness when I'm done. Good. Just make sure you are back in your dark cave before the sun rises. Caves are for special spiritual homeless people Nabby. Don't you read your scriptures?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. snip Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does not require a human participant. However, we have to be careful when drawing conclusions like travel back in time from his experiment and other related experiments as time travel is not necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment. Interesting stuff though. Shows how elusive answers can be when you are out there on the cutting edge.
[FairfieldLife] Oooooo, immortality, yes, but new brains too!
http://tinyurl.com/35l5dk This article about how they've found a way to make a heart from scratch that beats explains about the technique. What they don't say is that, hey, why not use this same technique on a brain? Instant mind in a jar! I'm scared. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it might for some. It's a rather common and popular initiation in some quarters. Personally, I always preferred Tara. I knew it Vaj. I always had you pegged as a Gone With The Wind afficianado
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?
On Jan 14, 2008, at 6:55 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kubera is also considered the treasurer of the demigods. Hence, he may fulfilling this kind of role in the TMO. Does he do it all while while he's sitting in the old gum tree? LOL...that's the line I was trying to think of, Lurk. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kubera?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kubera is also considered the treasurer of the demigods. Hence, he may fulfilling this kind of role in the TMO. Does he do it all while while he's sitting in the old gum tree?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
On Jan 14, 2008, at 6:15 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. This wiki entry notes how Schroedinger was more mystical than many quantum scientists. Nevertheless, Schroedinger did not have much respect for what he called the lofty consequences people drew from quantum science. For example he knew that there was no evidence or any good theory for the proposition that consciousness influences an object being observed. It was an unsupported belief drawn from the fact that measuring devices interfere with objects under measurement. As he said: Sensations and thoughts do not belong to the world of energy. They cannot produce any change in the world of energy. . . (from My View of the World, Cambridge University Press, 1964). I especially like these quotes from the article: The scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It give a lot of factual information, puts all our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. . . .it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good and bad, God and eternity. Whence I come and whither I go? That is the great unfathomable question, the same for every one of us. Science has no answer to it. Of course this was before Reich's rediscovery of life-energy. Once prana actually becomes measurable, it's possible--maybe even likely-- we'll finally see the possibility of a truly unified theory.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Global Capital of Raam Raj now established in the Brahmasthan (centre) of India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Om, this is beautiful. I can see the palm tree groves and the Palaces. The croquet, badminton and and the bowling greens. The cricket, and polo fields. It is beautiful. To which offshore account can I send money to help make this come true as soon as is, possible? Dude, no need. You're just having a good experience. You just described Jana Loka. What till you get to Sat Loka. Lordy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are. No electricity in your cave I suppose... Nab, I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards Curtis. You know that light that stays on during sleeping, dream and sleep.? Yet that sun, bro.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. snip Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does not require a human participant. However, we have to be careful when drawing conclusions like travel back in time from his experiment and other related experiments as time travel is not necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment. Interesting stuff though. Shows how elusive answers can be when you are out there on the cutting edge. Be careful of Judy's Golem, a peculiar form of strawman fallacy where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others thoughts, and then based on that distorted monster attempts to show who that misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have actually zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even close to what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll see this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg others on to further entice with her latest Golem.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does not require a human participant. However, we have to be careful when drawing conclusions like travel back in time from his experiment and other related experiments as time travel is not necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment. Interesting stuff though. Shows how elusive answers can be when you are out there on the cutting edge. Yes indeed. Which is where the ideas Off cited that Vaj was scoffing at as absurd come from, Vaj erroneously thinking (or, more likely, hoping he could lead others to think) they came from MMY and Hagelin. Sorry to belabor the point about Vaj, Ruth, but it's a long-term trend with him, and he needs to be called on it every time. It's like whack-a-mole.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. snip Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does not require a human participant. However, we have to be careful when drawing conclusions like travel back in time from his experiment and other related experiments as time travel is not necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment. Interesting stuff though. Shows how elusive answers can be when you are out there on the cutting edge. Be careful of Judy's Golem, a peculiar form of strawman fallacy where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others thoughts, and then based on that distorted monster attempts to show who that misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have actually zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even close to what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll see this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg others on to further entice with her latest Golem. snicker Vaj's mantra when he's caught at it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No Country For Old Men
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu buttsplicer@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I just saw this movie. Were there two endings, does anyone know? The ending I saw was lame- in IMO. No resolution, no bad guy getting offed. Just kind of absurd at the end. As usual the Cohen bros are playing with conventions. We expect the bad guy to get it in the end and the cop to now retire knowing he has no unfinished business. Instead we get something more akin to real life. Well, now that you guys have screwed up the movie for me with your spoilers, I might as well skip it. :-) Then again, I'm the kinda guy who would see the movie (or live the movie) even if I already *know* that things aren't going to get explained or wrap- ped up in neat little packages at the end. I'm on the road in France right now, and after the business is done I'm going to try to see a few VO versions of my Must See List while here. This film is one of them, *whatever* the ending. How many times have you watched Fargo knowing well how it ends? I have watched it many times. It's the pleasure of watching the Cohen brothers craft of storytelling that keeps me coming back. And I'm looking forward to seeing No Country for Old Men again. The ending can't be spoiled. It may help to know its a bit off kilter. I am looking forward to my next screening of it. as well. s.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:22 PM, authfriend wrote: snicker Vaj's mantra when he's caught at it. The wicked witches face when water is splashed on it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are. No electricity in your cave I suppose... Nab, I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards Curtis. You know that light that stays on during sleeping, dream and sleep.? Yet that sun, bro. Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was that story? At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned out to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC. Not being Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm all enlightened up without the Burger King hat. Plus I don't have to thpeek like Bevan when he takes all the known adjectives on parade to expreth how gloriouth it all ith.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course this was before Reich's rediscovery of life-energy. Once prana actually becomes measurable, it's possible--maybe even likely-- we'll finally see the possibility of a truly unified theory. I can't help but think of the movie Sleeper and the orgasmatron.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
---Right traveling backward in time may be an inappropriate phrase. However, the phrase backward causation is officially used; but the paradox is that there's no evidence of a signal, at least one that physicists can detect. The presence of a human observer has traditionally been a requirement in the Copenhagen viewpoint of QM, propounded by most of the 20's pioneers (Schroedinger, Heisenberg, Bohr, etc). Einstein was the antagonist to Borh in this controversey. Other physicists OTOH believe that the environment is the observer; and downplay the necessity of a human observer. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. snip Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does not require a human participant. However, we have to be careful when drawing conclusions like travel back in time from his experiment and other related experiments as time travel is not necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment. Interesting stuff though. Shows how elusive answers can be when you are out there on the cutting edge. Be careful of Judy's Golem, a peculiar form of strawman fallacy where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others thoughts, and then based on that distorted monster attempts to show who that misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have actually zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even close to what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll see this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg others on to further entice with her latest Golem. snicker Vaj's mantra when he's caught at it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
On Jan 14, 2008, at 9:00 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course this was before Reich's rediscovery of life-energy. Once prana actually becomes measurable, it's possible--maybe even likely-- we'll finally see the possibility of a truly unified theory. I can't help but think of the movie Sleeper and the orgasmatron. Yeah, a lot of people say that. :-) Actually the rumor was his student masturbated in them. What convinced me was when I saw the video of the repeated study where they created a room (I've actually been in that room) which multiplied prana many times. Within that room they used further prana accumulators to trap the life-energy into a vacuum tube, which was then excited. If you've ever seen prana in meditation, you immediately recognize it and I was struck by the utter beauty of it. Incredible sky/cobalt blue. I had actually seen the original old 16 mm film of Reich's at his lab of this same experiment--and the repeated experiment looked remarkably the same. It's one of those experiments, once you realize it may be what it's purported to be -- you'd like to try it yourself!
[FairfieldLife] Winston, Raja w/Spine is Back. On to Victory!
Doug: Winston is back: From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just in... Rick: I don't get it. Who is this Winston? Is he a Raja? Lurk: This Winston piece was pretty intriquing. I'd love to get some independent confirmation Winston, Raja with Spine is Back. V! for Victory! Parody. Straight parody. Satire. Is easy satirical. Is much moral vacuum that is, Maharishi. Makes a natural moral-gap filler to fill that kind of vacuum with parody Churchill-ian, by contrast. Only 70 years since these words were spoken against an evil menace then, and you don't recognize them? ( Tisk, Tisk: Those who don't study history are condemned to repeat it(?) Churchill: Tyrants are those who use their power over people to steal their property. Evil menace is that which misuses the goodwill of people against them to steal their property, liberties and freedom. Maharishi has left himself and his TMmovement wide open to this `victory' kind of moral satirical criticism. Is an easy irony and it works because it has some essential truth to it. So, it is. Run, you fools Gandalf. Mainstream: Exhibit # 1 - demonstrating the genesis of religion- induced war.. 160827 wrote: Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008): I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me a gift. Winston is back: From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just in... Forward: paste From: A Raja with spine, in reply: To: Maharishi, All we have to offer is blood, toil, tears and sweat. You have faced us with this greatest crisis in our long movement history. You now ask what donations we will make, what is our position, what is our policy? What monuments will we build? Nay it is to wage war, with all our might. War, against a monstrous tyranny in our TMorg. You ask what is our aim? It is victory. Victory despite all the costs to the movement of your monies, victory despite all the terror of your administration. Victory no matter how long and hard the road may be. For without victory in this, there is no survival of what is special and precious. Without victory there will be no survival of Guru Dev's teaching and all that it has stood for from origin. War, and victory for the spiritual regeneration movement of Guru Dev. Damn the monument builders, damn the idolaters and damn your money-changers. That spiritual teaching which Guru Dev once represented has vanished in them. There is no room for negotiation. Negotiation is compromise, which only would destroy all that has made Guru Dev and the SRM special. Nay, why keep your movement, your administration, if the teaching it once represented has vanished in them? Off with your robes and off with your crowns. Down with your monuments. You are an embarrassment to all that was once good. Go. Go. Go. Go on. Leave your attachments to this. It is time. For the teaching of Guru Dev and all it has stood for, for humankind, you must go now. We will see you on to hell. It is time. You have done your mischief. Jai Guru Dev, Jai, the Spiritual Regeneration Movement Jai, the International Meditation Movement of Guru Dev -We move to teach transcending. Jai Guru Dev, -Winston, Prime Minister of Greater Britain Rajastan in the Global Country of Peace p.s., It is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrages of your TMmovement and this teaching now; this repository, this embodiment of soul-destroying wrongs and shames of humanity. We will never make a peace with this. No matter what happens we will fight on. If the long history of the TMmovement is to end with Rajas and your monuments, let it end Onward soldiers of Truth. We hold these truths to be Self-evident. We speak to you in a solemn hour, in a war for the soul of mankind. It is time for you Maharishi to go, as the will of God in Heaven, so be it. The future for the 21st century is research published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals. Period. Get used to it. -Winston end paste --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: 160598 An MUM Governor-faculty member sent this to a friend, as fairly accurate notes of today's most historic time of all time From another source Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008): I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me a gift. Somewhere or everywhere we want the Rajas to ... We want to perpetuate this some ... For invincibility because we have had the honor of creating the invincibility for the world and we want to make it really a perpetual shrine for the world. A place of ... Should think of a memorial of the world transformed into invincibility. Will all the rajas consider where it can be created? I feel just now My work is done. My work is done. On
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language. I'd be in the dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message (parade of adjectives) which said how precious and how beautiful and how joyful and how etc. something was. And it was really, really bad writing. Who writes this crap? And why doesn't someone say, Hey, this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same way. Oh yes. I have thought that it would be fun to design one of the funny translators you can find on the internet to translate regular talk to movement talk. Kind of like talk like a pirate speak translator: http://talklikeapirateday.com/translate/index.php Let's see, maybe nice day today, translates into This is the most perfect and auspicious phase of thought and action where we can spontaneously and profoundly experience heaven on earth. Or something like that.
[FairfieldLife] Video about FFL Haters and others
Video about FFL Haters and others http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
---Let's see some Movement art!! In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language. I'd be in the dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message (parade of adjectives) which said how precious and how beautiful and how joyful and how etc. something was. And it was really, really bad writing. Who writes this crap? And why doesn't someone say, Hey, this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same way. - Original Message From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:42:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, lurkernomore200020 00 steve.sundur@ ... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are. No electricity in your cave I suppose... Nab, I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards Curtis. You know that light that stays on during sleeping, dream and sleep.? Yet that sun, bro. Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was that story? At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned out to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC. Not being Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm all enlightened up without the Burger King hat. Plus I don't have to thpeek like Bevan when he takes all the known adjectives on parade to expreth how gloriouth it all ith. !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text- align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language. I'd be in the dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message (parade of adjectives) which said how precious and how beautiful and how joyful and how etc. something was. And it was really, really bad writing. Who writes this crap? And why doesn't someone say, Hey, this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same way. - Original Message From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:42:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, lurkernomore200020 00 steve.sundur@ ... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are. No electricity in your cave I suppose... Nab, I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards Curtis. You know that light that stays on during sleeping, dream and sleep.? Yet that sun, bro. Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was that story? At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned out to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC. Not being Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm all enlightened up without the Burger King hat. Plus I don't have to thpeek like Bevan when he takes all the known adjectives on parade to expreth how gloriouth it all ith. !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
Well, I guess that was my point. There isn't any. I mean the graphic stuff on brochures etc. the pastels, the scrolls, the gold. All in terribly bad taste. Music is the same way. Mother Divine singing, Maharishi's bri-he-he-nging heaven on earth, heaven on earth... Very insipid. No soul. No life. No spirit. - Original Message From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:03:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations ---Let's see some Movement art!! In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ ... wrote: You know, I've often wondered what it is with Movement language. I'd be in the dome, and there'd be this poster with this long message (parade of adjectives) which said how precious and how beautiful and how joyful and how etc. something was. And it was really, really bad writing. Who writes this crap? And why doesn't someone say, Hey, this is really bad? Movement art strikes me the same way. - Original Message From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ ... To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:42:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, lurkernomore200020 00 steve.sundur@ ... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: You are not listening. Perhaps the sun has come up wherever you are. No electricity in your cave I suppose... Nab, I have it on good authority that the sun never sets as regards Curtis. You know that light that stays on during sleeping, dream and sleep.? Yet that sun, bro. Yeah and I got that way by hating Krishna, or was it Shiva, what was that story? At first I thought I was hating a deity but it turned out to be just a Tranny walking the gauntlet on 14th st in DC. Not being Eddie Murphy, I didn't give her/him a ride home. Anyh, now I'm all enlightened up without the Burger King hat. Plus I don't have to thpeek like Bevan when he takes all the known adjectives on parade to expreth how gloriouth it all ith. !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px 0px;padding: 0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a; font-size: 85%;font- weight:bold; line- height:122%; margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom: 10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff; text-decoration: none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family: Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight: bold;font- size:78%; line-height: 122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom: 10px;padding: 0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family: Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family: Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white- space:nowrap; } .bld{font-weight: bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom: 10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- transform:uppercase ;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight: bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration: none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font- size:77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video about FFL Haters and others
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Video about FFL Haters and others http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M OffWorld I am humbled by such creativity and brilliance. Excellent Off!
[FairfieldLife] Barenboim takes Palestinian passport
Though he dismissed any wish to play a political role, the former music director of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra took a dig at Bush's strikingly forceful call in Jerusalem last week for Israel to end, in the president's own words, the occupation. Now even not very intelligent people are saying that the occupation has to be stopped, Barenboim said. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13487401.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. snip Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? Uh...VajI really haven't kept track of this thread, but I have never proposed anything like that. It is obvious to me (but very few scientists) that the human observer is irrelavent. A microbe or a squirrel is an observer, and all things are observed by something else in an unbroken chain of connection called 'unity'. That means the totality of all those observations are more than the sum of its parts, which is called 'Brahman'..which is simply consciousness. It seems vaj makes false claims about people to make his silly arguments about which which no-one is interested. OffWorld I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video about FFL Haters and others
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Video about FFL Haters and others http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M That sucks! THEY ALL SUCK ! ! ! ! OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video about FFL Haters and others
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Video about FFL Haters and others http://youtube.com/watch?v=p21nZmtq56M That sucks!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Same Grandfathers of Physics Speak Out.......was/The Grandfathers of Phy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Right traveling backward in time may be an inappropriate phrase. However, the phrase backward causation is officially used; but the paradox is that there's no evidence of a signal, at least one that physicists can detect. The presence of a human observer has traditionally been a requirement in the Copenhagen viewpoint of QM, propounded by most of the 20's pioneers (Schroedinger, Heisenberg, Bohr, etc). Einstein was the antagonist to Borh in this controversey. Other physicists OTOH believe that the environment is the observer; and downplay the necessity of a human observer. True. I cannot believe it has taken 50 years for the most obvious truth to come home to these childish retards we call 'scientists'. There must be some brain damage that causes a person to seek a career in science. It is called 'the mistake of the intellect' That is why, at the age of 15, after studying astronomy and cosmology in-depth ( I used to save up all my pocket money at 13+ years old to buy big thick books on astronomy and modern cosmology and pour over them with amazement ), I essentially gave up the ignorance of the scientific journey for the more precarious and wonder-filled journey of an artist. See some of my work at www.satwagraphics.com The artist is superior to the scientist on all levels. At 15 I had forgotton more than any scientist will know in a lifetime. How could anyone but the most stupid being to ever live think that somehow the observation of a human is more important than that of say an elephant or chimpanzee, and those are somehow more relevant than a mouse or a beetle, and those are more relevant than a microbe or even a particle that registers (observes) an energy or effect. PLEASE KILL ME NOW !... ...if we are in the year 2008 and people have STILL NOT REALIZED that all things make observations (register changes), and that that is an unbroken chain of observation (reaction) throughout eternity. As such, all things are observed (even if to the smallest degree of significance) and are registered in this memory-bank we call 'the universe'. Therefore...we, the observer, have created the perception of what we percieve, and that perception changes when the perciever changes (Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness - Maharishi ) OffWorld In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: snip From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is familiar with this stuff. snip Also check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism It's a very good synopsis. Quoting Vaj from an earlier post: What are you proposing Off, that the observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that travels back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the machine? What about when there is no human observer and some automatic recording machine does the observing? Does the machine travel back through time? I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of false propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his physicists-marketeers. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment does not require a human participant. However, we have to be careful when drawing conclusions like travel back in time from his experiment and other related experiments as time travel is not necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment. Interesting stuff though. Shows how elusive answers can be when you are out there on the cutting edge. Be careful of Judy's Golem, a peculiar form of strawman fallacy where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others thoughts, and then based on that distorted monster attempts to show who that misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have actually zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even close to what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll see this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg others on to further entice with her latest Golem. snicker Vaj's mantra when
[FairfieldLife] Partial transcripts from Jan 12th Celebration
Forwarded from a friend of a friend of a friend: Here are transcripts of three short parts of the Jan. 12 celebration. These are my own effort, not official. Numbers refer to the hours and minutes into the celebration these appeared (beginning from the initial Vedic chanting). Prime Minister Bevan Morris's narration appears without quotes, and is not always exact. Jai Guru Dev #1 - 2:34 When he heard this announcement, and the warm reception of all to the foundation of this organization, the Brahmananda Saraswati Trust, Maharishi said, I am grateful for this warm sendoff of Invincibility to the whole world, for all times. It was my pleasure, at the feet of Guru Dev, to take the light of Guru Dev, and pass it on to my environment. Now, today, I am closing my designated duty to Guru Dev. I can only say, 'Live long the world--in peace, happiness, prosperity, and freedom from suffering.' Today, this farewell marks the establishment of Invincibility for all mankind under the capable, silent rulership of Maharaja Raja Raam, and under the capable guidance of all the Ministers, and all the glorified minds in terms of all dignity of the light in Invincibility for every country. And it is my satisfaction that I offer this to the lotus feet of Shri Guru Dev. Jai Guru Dev. And offer my everything to the blessings of Guru Dev. And continue with the world in peace, prosperity and happiness. This formation the Brahmananda Saraswati Trust is going to be a glory for the administration for future life on earth, on the individual and national level. All glory to Guru Dev. Jai Guru Dev. Express my delight for all the millennia to come, that the world is going to be a happy world. The Brahmananda Saraswati Trust is going to take the lighted lamp every morning and night, every night to come. The future of the world is bright, and that is my delight. #2 - 2:42 Here is His Majesty Maharaja Nader Raam's message, expressed today to His Holiness to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: Your gift of infinite silence, eternal peace, with none other than You in it, I embraced, my Lord, with joy. And it filled me with bliss. In it, you breathe life into Veda. Your thoughts are Pure Knowledge. In it, you leave nothing to be desired. There is no need, no want. You are the soul of all that there is--Atma, Brahm, eternal freedom, totality, unboundedness. Tender, softly permeating everything, all encompassing, binding the loose ends of creation, unifying all opposites, resolving all conflicts, you are and give meaning and all the glory to Silence--that gift of Guru Dev--that which you taught us to be Guru Dev. With your grace, my Lord, my silence has been full. Please today do not wish us to experience its emptiness. I shall remain in it. But please do not take away from me the hope to be always able to open my eyes and say, 'Jai Guru Dev.' For other than to you, and under your guidance, to whom shall I speak? Yes, of course, you say--and I know--you will be with me forever. And my task will be easy, keeping you company in silence. But why suddenly, today, I feel the need to speak, and the need to tell you again and again, and never lose the chance to be able to tell you again, how much I adore you. Yes, I know that we will all be together, unified and strong, with you--for there is nothing in us, other than you. And I see the day when I will be fulfilled again--that day which I cannot wait for too long, that day when everyone alive on this planet Earth will with every breath, in his heart and mind, uphold your Silence, your Guru Dev--our Guru Dev. Only on that day--maybe--I will stop missing you. Jai Guru Dev. #3 - 2:49:30 Yesterday, when Maharishi was reflecting on all the praise that was expressed to him by all the Rajas and Ministers, Maharishi said, in thinking about all that was said, the Invincible Raja of America came to his mind. So he said, Invincible Raja of America, when I am saying this, I am reminded of you. Maharishi was speaking about the discovery of the Unified Field, and the spontaneous operation of all life on earth from that level of the Unified Field. So he said, Invincible Raja of America, when I am saying this, I am reminded of you, in you I have seen that Invincibility that cannot be isolated anywhere. You will be able to design the human race functioning on the level of Invincibility and motivated by Total Natural Law. It's beautiful. It's such a joy to say it. Even though one cannot pinpoint anything, because it is all spontaneous and automatic--it is such a joy today, when I am closing my performance, and closing my days of life, when I am hearing all these beautiful realities of all successes on the basis of which we have built up Invincibility to be the perpetual phase to be lived in life, I am expressing, It is not I that has done it. If it is I, it is a big 'I'. And I would like to
[FairfieldLife] Talk by Maharishi
A friend said: This transcript comes from a very strong Governor friend, who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. [Each Raja speaks about the Bramananda Saraswati Trust, and praises Maharishi, and discusses his gifts to them individually and to the world] Maharishi replies: Listening, my mind goes to (from) where all this was happening. I did not know from where this is happening. That was all I knew - it was the destiny of the world. It was the fortune of the world being designed, designed by whom I did not know. By some skill beyond my ability. I was simply working [3x]. I did not know from where all the instruments are coming to give shape to the world. Here there and everywhere I was only working. When I am hearing all the beautiful sentiments, I would like to find out from where this was happening? The depth of Vedic wisdom for life is so enormous that it is completely self-sufficient in articulating everything. One would never know from where one is acting. When I hear all this sentiments the only thing I can say - the only thing I can say - from where I am doing - I was not doing. It was happening - from place to place I was moving around. It was happening but it was not. I was not instrumental to it in any way. I find no source of it - because unfathomable is the field of Natural Law. Unfathomable is the field of Natural Law, and it happens and it happens. And it works out the destiny of everyone. But you go to find this logic, that logic, that logic. You are not able to pinpoint from where it is happening, and ultimately you are left with something that you can only say Jai Guru Dev. It's from where that it is happening. I remember a Vedic saying naguro ardikum [4x]. There is nothing greater than Guru Dev. Nothing greater than Guru Dev. Guru bramha. It is how our Guru Dev is defined. Guru vishnu. And Guru Deva Maheshvara. And above all Guru sakshat param brama. Tasmai shri gurave namah. Guru is para brahm. I end up with something beyond anything, and that is the reality of life. You can't find the source because the source is all over. Where the intellectual ends, ends everything. It is the transcendental - it is the reality of all possibilities. So glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru Dev and we got to that course of action. We got to a course of action from where everything is all possibilities automatically. Nothing can be pinpointed. When I was hearing all the glory, all the efforts, all my own appreciation from all the Rajas I was knowing what they're doing - they're stretching something because they are not able to isolate it - very great. The glory of unbounded energy, intelligence, unbounded energy and intelligence. The source is everywhere and that is Vedic civilization. What is at the basis of this? Total knowledge. Jyotish. Jyotish Vidya. Jyotish. Jyotish. Jyotish is that source of unbounded energy. And all knowingness. That is Jyotish. There one is trained. There is the secret of all secrets. You can't pinpoint. We can't pinpoint our understanding, our status. We can't pinpoint our stand, our status, our activity. From where all this is happening. It's happening of course but from where? It is complete transcendental in nature. The picture of Jyotish, of Yoga, the picture of devotion, the field of knowledge, is unfathomable. Completely unfathomable. That is why what we have done is established the rule of authority in silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe. In silence is the script of natural law, which is eternally guiding the destiny of everyone. Such a beautiful picture is provided But from where is it painted? From where it is? Totality is real. Totality is real. All the yoga, all the yoga, all the yoga, the whole field of life you find from where to draw it. But it is not possible to located the source of it. It is unfathomable. Unfathomable is the field of Brahm - it is totality. You cannot locate it. You can take out anything you want but you don't know from where it is coming. It is a beautiful picture. I would like the invincible Raja of America - he is the greatest visionary of today, the greatest scientist of total law today - The unified field is such a spread out thing. Unified - completely spread out. You use it...spontaneously is the word. Completely spontaneously is the word. That is what. The experience of that has always been there. And it is there now in Invincible, invincible America and invincible Raja of America, Invincible Raja of America. When I say this I am reminded of you, because you have seen that invincibility that cannot be isolated anywhere. And you'll be able to design invincibility on that level of invincibility, motivated by Natural Law - total Natural Law. Is beautiful. It is such a joy to say it even though one cannot pinpoint anything, but certainly one can say it is spontaneous,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Talk by Maharishi
WTF --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend said: This transcript comes from a very strong Governor friend, who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. [Each Raja speaks about the Bramananda Saraswati Trust, and praises Maharishi, and discusses his gifts to them individually and to the world] Maharishi replies: Listening, my mind goes to (from) where all this was happening. I did not know from where this is happening. That was all I knew - it was the destiny of the world. It was the fortune of the world being designed, designed by whom I did not know. By some skill beyond my ability. I was simply working [3x]. I did not know from where all the instruments are coming to give shape to the world. Here there and everywhere I was only working. When I am hearing all the beautiful sentiments, I would like to find out from where this was happening? The depth of Vedic wisdom for life is so enormous that it is completely self-sufficient in articulating everything. One would never know from where one is acting. When I hear all this sentiments the only thing I can say - the only thing I can say - from where I am doing - I was not doing. It was happening - from place to place I was moving around. It was happening but it was not. I was not instrumental to it in any way. I find no source of it - because unfathomable is the field of Natural Law. Unfathomable is the field of Natural Law, and it happens and it happens. And it works out the destiny of everyone. But you go to find this logic, that logic, that logic. You are not able to pinpoint from where it is happening, and ultimately you are left with something that you can only say Jai Guru Dev. It's from where that it is happening. I remember a Vedic saying naguro ardikum [4x]. There is nothing greater than Guru Dev. Nothing greater than Guru Dev. Guru bramha. It is how our Guru Dev is defined. Guru vishnu. And Guru Deva Maheshvara. And above all Guru sakshat param brama. Tasmai shri gurave namah. Guru is para brahm. I end up with something beyond anything, and that is the reality of life. You can't find the source because the source is all over. Where the intellectual ends, ends everything. It is the transcendental - it is the reality of all possibilities. So glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru Dev and we got to that course of action. We got to a course of action from where everything is all possibilities automatically. Nothing can be pinpointed. When I was hearing all the glory, all the efforts, all my own appreciation from all the Rajas I was knowing what they're doing - they're stretching something because they are not able to isolate it - very great. The glory of unbounded energy, intelligence, unbounded energy and intelligence. The source is everywhere and that is Vedic civilization. What is at the basis of this? Total knowledge. Jyotish. Jyotish Vidya. Jyotish. Jyotish. Jyotish is that source of unbounded energy. And all knowingness. That is Jyotish. There one is trained. There is the secret of all secrets. You can't pinpoint. We can't pinpoint our understanding, our status. We can't pinpoint our stand, our status, our activity. From where all this is happening. It's happening of course but from where? It is complete transcendental in nature. The picture of Jyotish, of Yoga, the picture of devotion, the field of knowledge, is unfathomable. Completely unfathomable. That is why what we have done is established the rule of authority in silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe. In silence is the script of natural law, which is eternally guiding the destiny of everyone. Such a beautiful picture is provided But from where is it painted? From where it is? Totality is real. Totality is real. All the yoga, all the yoga, all the yoga, the whole field of life you find from where to draw it. But it is not possible to located the source of it. It is unfathomable. Unfathomable is the field of Brahm - it is totality. You cannot locate it. You can take out anything you want but you don't know from where it is coming. It is a beautiful picture. I would like the invincible Raja of America - he is the greatest visionary of today, the greatest scientist of total law today - The unified field is such a spread out thing. Unified - completely spread out. You use it...spontaneously is the word. Completely spontaneously is the word. That is what. The experience of that has always been there. And it is there now in Invincible, invincible America and invincible Raja of America, Invincible Raja of America. When I say this I am reminded of you, because you have seen that invincibility that cannot be isolated anywhere. And you'll be able
[FairfieldLife] Re: Talk by Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend said: This transcript comes from a very strong Governor friend, who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. A friend said: This transcript comes from a very strong Governor friend, who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. Thank God, thank God it is from a strong Governor in Vlodrop. Imagine if it was from a less than strong Governor in Vlodrop. Heaven would stutter. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF [Each Raja speaks about the Bramananda Saraswati Trust, and praises Maharishi, and discusses his gifts to them individually and to the world] Maharishi replies: Listening, my mind goes to (from) where all this was happening. I did not know from where this is happening. That was all I knew - it was the destiny of the world. It was the fortune of the world being designed, designed by whom I did not know. By some skill beyond my ability. I was simply working [3x]. I did not know from where all the instruments are coming to give shape to the world. Here there and everywhere I was only working. When I am hearing all the beautiful sentiments, I would like to find out from where this was happening? The depth of Vedic wisdom for life is so enormous that it is completely self-sufficient in articulating everything. One would never know from where one is acting. When I hear all this sentiments the only thing I can say - the only thing I can say - from where I am doing - I was not doing. It was happening - from place to place I was moving around. It was happening but it was not. I was not instrumental to it in any way. I find no source of it - because unfathomable is the field of Natural Law. Unfathomable is the field of Natural Law, and it happens and it happens. And it works out the destiny of everyone. But you go to find this logic, that logic, that logic. You are not able to pinpoint from where it is happening, and ultimately you are left with something that you can only say Jai Guru Dev. It's from where that it is happening. I remember a Vedic saying naguro ardikum [4x]. There is nothing greater than Guru Dev. Nothing greater than Guru Dev. Guru bramha. It is how our Guru Dev is defined. Guru vishnu. And Guru Deva Maheshvara. And above all Guru sakshat param brama. Tasmai shri gurave namah. Guru is para brahm. I end up with something beyond anything, and that is the reality of life. You can't find the source because the source is all over. Where the intellectual ends, ends everything. It is the transcendental - it is the reality of all possibilities. So glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru Dev. Glory to Guru Dev and we got to that course of action. We got to a course of action from where everything is all possibilities automatically. Nothing can be pinpointed. When I was hearing all the glory, all the efforts, all my own appreciation from all the Rajas I was knowing what they're doing - they're stretching something because they are not able to isolate it - very great. The glory of unbounded energy, intelligence, unbounded energy and intelligence. The source is everywhere and that is Vedic civilization. What is at the basis of this? Total knowledge. Jyotish. Jyotish Vidya. Jyotish. Jyotish. Jyotish is that source of unbounded energy. And all knowingness. That is Jyotish. There one is trained. There is the secret of all secrets. You can't pinpoint. We can't pinpoint our understanding, our status. We can't pinpoint our stand, our status, our activity. From where all this is happening. It's happening of course but from where? It is complete transcendental in nature. The picture of Jyotish, of Yoga, the picture of devotion, the field of knowledge, is unfathomable. Completely unfathomable. That is why what we have done is established the rule of authority in silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe. In silence is the script of natural law, which is eternally guiding the destiny of everyone. Such a beautiful picture is provided But from where is it painted? From where it is? Totality is real. Totality is real. All the yoga, all the yoga, all the yoga, the whole field of life you find from where to draw it. But it is not possible to located the source of it. It is unfathomable. Unfathomable is the field of Brahm - it is totality. You cannot locate it. You can take out anything you want but you don't know from where it is coming. It is a beautiful picture. I would like the invincible Raja of America - he is the greatest visionary of today, the greatest scientist of total law today - The unified field is such a spread out thing. Unified - completely spread out. You use it...spontaneously is the word. Completely spontaneously is the word. That
[FairfieldLife] Re: Winston, Raja w/Spine is Back. On to Victory!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug: Winston is back: From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just in... Rick: I don't get it. Who is this Winston? Is he a Raja? Lurk: This Winston piece was pretty intriquing. I'd love to get some independent confirmation Winston, Raja with Spine is Back. V! for Victory! Parody. Straight parody. Satire. Is easy satirical. Is much moral vacuum that is, Maharishi. Makes a natural moral-gap filler to fill that kind of vacuum with parody Churchill-ian, by contrast. Only 70 years since these words were spoken against an evil menace then, and you don't recognize them? ( Tisk, Tisk: Those who don't study history are condemned to repeat it(?) Churchill: Tyrants are those who use their power over people to steal their property. Evil menace is that which misuses the goodwill of people against them to steal their property, liberties and freedom. Maharishi has left himself and his TMmovement wide open to this `victory' kind of moral satirical criticism. Is an easy irony and it works because it has some essential truth to it. So, it is. Run, you fools Gandalf. Mainstream: Exhibit # 1 - demonstrating the genesis of religion- induced war.. 160827 wrote: Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008): I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me a gift. Winston is back: From the Rajastan of, Great Britain -This just in... Forward: paste From: A Raja with spine, in reply: To: Maharishi, All we have to offer is blood, toil, tears and sweat. You have faced us with this greatest crisis in our long movement history. You now ask what donations we will make, what is our position, what is our policy? What monuments will we build? Nay it is to wage war, with all our might. War, against a monstrous tyranny in our TMorg. You ask what is our aim? It is victory. Victory despite all the costs to the movement of your monies, victory despite all the terror of your administration. Victory no matter how long and hard the road may be. For without victory in this, there is no survival of what is special and precious. Without victory there will be no survival of Guru Dev's teaching and all that it has stood for from origin. War, and victory for the spiritual regeneration movement of Guru Dev. Damn the monument builders, damn the idolaters and damn your money-changers. That spiritual teaching which Guru Dev once represented has vanished in them. There is no room for negotiation. Negotiation is compromise, which only would destroy all that has made Guru Dev and the SRM special. Nay, why keep your movement, your administration, if the teaching it once represented has vanished in them? Off with your robes and off with your crowns. Down with your monuments. You are an embarrassment to all that was once good. Go. Go. Go. Go on. Leave your attachments to this. It is time. For the teaching of Guru Dev and all it has stood for, for humankind, you must go now. We will see you on to hell. It is time. You have done your mischief. Jai Guru Dev, Jai, the Spiritual Regeneration Movement Jai, the International Meditation Movement of Guru Dev -We move to teach transcending. Jai Guru Dev, -Winston, Prime Minister of Greater Britain Rajastan in the Global Country of Peace p.s., It is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrages of your TMmovement and this teaching now; this repository, this embodiment of soul-destroying wrongs and shames of humanity. We will never make a peace with this. No matter what happens we will fight on. If the long history of the TMmovement is to end with Rajas and your monuments, let it end Onward soldiers of Truth. We hold these truths to be Self-evident. We speak to you in a solemn hour, in a war for the soul of mankind. It is time for you Maharishi to go, as the will of God in Heaven, so be it. The future for the 21st century is research published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals. Period. Get used to it. -Winston end paste I'm an American http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxOHwu0CA5E --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: 160598 An MUM Governor-faculty member sent this to a friend, as fairly accurate notes of today's most historic time of all time From another source Maharishi-Jii (1-9-2008): I would like to make a wish and see if all the Rajas can give Me a gift. Somewhere or everywhere we want the Rajas to ... We want to perpetuate this some ... For invincibility because we have had the honor of creating
[FairfieldLife] Off_world's early Vermont Spring
Off_world on Dec. 26: Outta here, see ya'll. Its been a laugh watching the fundies squirm under the harsh light of truth. Research published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals. The sun is out, the solstice is over, and the skiing is great, so I am bowing out until the Spring. Maybe by then some more of you will have entered the modern age and will accept research published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals :-) OffWorld on Dec. 26, Mainstream wrote: His self-imposed hiatus until Spring must mean that even in Vermont, Spring will be early. I don't look forward to it, but will see him back by Jan. 5th. It was rather quiet without you, Off. Apparently you were missed. Welcome back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: January 12'th celebrations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: 208 acres bought in Blue Ridge Mountains, West Virginia, 1 1/2 hours drive from Washington DC for the Global Capital for Purusha. Flag hosting and Bumi Puja performed bu Eicke Hartmann on january 12'th. Vedic gardens, 12 Yagya mandalas, Palace for America's Raja. 800 suites for Purusha. :-) It's such a joy finally to hear good news from the USA ! Real estate speculation is a joy? Is it the buying low or the selling high that feels good? Oh, the buy low and sell high experience is okay, but the best experience is this: inspire a local community to fund a purchase of a building for use as a community center; allow the locals to use the building for a few years so they will be none the wiser; then sell the building, transfer all proceeds overseas, and rationalize to the locals that they have contributed to a better world through the process. In a few years, go back to the locals, and repeat
[FairfieldLife] Re: Winston, Raja w/Spine is Back. On to Victory!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Straight parody. Satire. Is easy satirical. Is much moral vacuum that is, Maharishi. Makes a natural moral-gap filler to fill that kind of vacuum with parody Churchill-ian, by contrast. Only 70 years since these words were spoken against an evil menace then, and you don't recognize them? ( Tisk, Tisk: Those who don't study history are condemned to repeat it(?) I was going to spoil the joke, but figured you should have the punchline. :-) There might have also been a place for We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
[FairfieldLife] The Sun in a Binary Star System
To All: Please watch these presentations below for explanation of precession and the idea of the Sun being in a Binary Star System. Regards, John R. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqAuEu9YU7UNR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oMM5xcoR9kfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svuqa_Xgedsfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tmVZ6QU46Mfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17CpDXPtFmcfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ew7qxwqdCEfeature=related
Re: [FairfieldLife] Talk by Maharishi
On Jan 14, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Rick Archer wrote: A friend said: This transcript comes from a very strong Governor friend, Does he eat a lot of spinach or something? who has a friend in Vlodrop prepared this. With or without ghee? :) Sal