[FairfieldLife] Re: silver galactic ocean + physiology of wealth
DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Maharishi, Sanskrit course from Dome Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] date Jan 20, 2008 12:41 PM 1. Good News from Dr. Bevan Morris 2. Sanskrit Recitation Course at The Raj 1. Good News from Dr. Bevan Morris Dr. Morris would like to share this message with the entire community: Dear All: The wonderful news is that Maharishi is in very deep silence here, and all is going very, very well, and he is listening to the World Congress of Rajas from time to time when he is not in complete silence. It is going very well! Here in Maharishi's house the stillness is the most profound I have ever experienced, powerful silence like a silver galactic ocean. Jai Guru Dev 2. Sanskrit Recitation Course at The Raj Dr. Keith Wegman, Ph.D in Maharishi Vedic Science, will be presenting a special four-lesson course in Sanskrit Recitation at The Raj Health Spa starting Thursday, January 31st from 8-9pm and continuing Thursday nights for four weeks. The course is open to the entire community from beginners to advanced Sanskrit readers. No experience is necessary. In this course, participants will recite selections from the Purana texts pertaining to Mahalakshmi. Mahalakshmi represents the quality of wealth and abundance pervading the entire universe. Recitation of these sounds enlivens the qualities of Mahalakshmi in the brain physiology and the environment. Course fee is $40, or $10 per individual lesson. Call 472-8279 or email Keith @ theraj.com for more details. *** DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the Maharishi University of Management community. To sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail message to dome-l-request @ mum.edu and put the word subscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. cardemaister wrote: Whoa! That's awesome. In four lessons one learns to recite selections from the puraaNa-s! :o pretty modest price; only $40 for the road to riches
[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please give me and friends that lowdown on this governor couple which for USD 400 tells you your level of consciousness on a scale of 1 to 1,000 ... I think the only person on FFL who has sent in his money has included his score on the How evolved are you scale in his ID: nablus1008 :-)
[FairfieldLife] From Bevan
wrote: Dear All: The wonderful news is that Maharishi is in very deep silence here, and all is going very, very well, and he is listening to the World Congress of Rajas from time to time when he is not in complete silence. It is going very well! Here in Maharishi's house the stillness is the most profound I have ever experienced, powerful silence like a silver galactic ocean. Jai Guru Dev Dr. Bevan Morris FW: i am trying to get my mind around Maharishi dying. i realize that i think of him as an immortal value. i know that i do not have the same respect for the words of any other source. i more than believe in his status, i have experienced it. he has perplexed me, but i have no question that the technique that he taught me has worked, and i have a level of gratitude for his tradition that i do not have for anything else. as far as i'm concerned, there is no one to replace him. i don't know what it means to be without one's teacher. i am suspecting that it will feel very different. i am assuming that i will feel that there is no ultimate arbitrator, and that will make me feel adrift. that the world has returned to argument only. that the transcendent has lost its best articulator. i don't think that i will feel that Nature speaks english anymore. i will be concerned about losing my way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: OMG ! I have it on good authority that he has left the body today, of all days, on January the 12th...how wierd is that !??? It is uncanny ! What now?!! OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
--- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
If this is all they do, of what possible value could it be? You have a thought about how evolved you are. I don't get it? --- feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know one person who has done this and is very happy with it. I think the guy may be sincere and genuinely believes he can channel divine energies your way, but it seems like an unconscious scam to me, if that's the right phrase. He gets a lot of money each time someone enrolls but he doesn't have to do any more work to earn it and there is no way to verify what he is doing, if he is doing anything at all. I would say, avoid. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please give me and friends that lowdown on this governor couple which for USD 400 tells you your level of consciousness on a scale of 1 to 1,000 and for the initial fee continue to make follow up phone calls on one's status. Of course I have my own opinion, but this is being asked for a friend. Thank you kindly for your time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is all they do, of what possible value could it be? You have a thought about how evolved you are. I don't get it? No, no, no, Pete...you really *don't* get it. It's not just a thought about how evolved you are, it's your OFFICIAL SCORE. You can use it often around Fairfield. For example: Excuse me, but I've noticed that you are in front of me in this queue. Why yes, I am. Is that a problem? That depends...what's your Casidy Rating? 438. Why? Well, my Casidy Rating is 872. So according to the laws of nature you have no right to be in front of me in this line. Oh, pardon me. I'll move behind you immediately. Thank you very much. That's very...uh...evolved of you, and I'm sure it will help you improve your score in the next incarnation. By the way, the people just behind me have higher Casidy Rating scores than you do, too, so you might as well keep going to the end of the line. See that fat guy there, Bevan? You can slip into the line right in front of him. :-) --- feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know one person who has done this and is very happy with it. I think the guy may be sincere and genuinely believes he can channel divine energies your way, but it seems like an unconscious scam to me, if that's the right phrase. He gets a lot of money each time someone enrolls but he doesn't have to do any more work to earn it and there is no way to verify what he is doing, if he is doing anything at all. I would say, avoid. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: Please give me and friends that lowdown on this governor couple which for USD 400 tells you your level of consciousness on a scale of 1 to 1,000 and for the initial fee continue to make follow up phone calls on one's status. Of course I have my own opinion, but this is being asked for a friend. Thank you kindly for your time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: I think the distinction was implicit in what Curtisdeltablues said, but Judy missed it. Now that she understands it, I think we're all pretty much in agreement. Angela. Every single time you venture to suss out my thinking, you fall flat on your face, and this is no exception. You're so wildly off-base here I don't know how to begin to go about straightening you out. Just stick to commenting on what people *say*, not what you imagine them to have understood. You'll be a lot better off. Pot. Kettle. Black. If we had a nickel for every time YOU have done this, we'd be able to afford to payt the two shyster-Governors to tell us how high we are. :-) No, see, the black here is to do it *cluelessly*, the way Angela does it-- and the way you do it as well. Both of you are so convinced of your own wonderfulness, of your own self- importance, that you don't think you need to pay attention to what people actually say. Angela doesn't even bother to make sure she's responding to the right post (see #161689, for example, which was actually another response to the post of mine quoted above), or that she has the correct referent of a pronoun (see #161640). Just slapdash, in other words, sloppy, slipshod, intellectually lazy. Neither of you thinks there's any need to check out the reality to see whether it's in accord with your fantasies before you indulge them. How you'd *like* things to be takes precedence in your minds over how things actually are. (And no, I'm not talking about Truth here, just garden-variety relative on-the-record facts that are accessible to everyone.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: I think the distinction was implicit in what Curtisdeltablues said, but Judy missed it. Now that she understands it, I think we're all pretty much in agreement. Angela. Every single time you venture to suss out my thinking, you fall flat on your face, and this is no exception. You're so wildly off-base here I don't know how to begin to go about straightening you out. Just stick to commenting on what people *say*, not what you imagine them to have understood. You'll be a lot better off. Pot. Kettle. Black. If we had a nickel for every time YOU have done this, we'd be able to afford to payt the two shyster-Governors to tell us how high we are. :-) No, see, the black here is to do it *cluelessly*, the way Angela does it-- and the way you do it as well. Both of you are so convinced of your own wonderfulness, of your own self- importance, that you don't think you need to pay attention to what people actually say. As opposed to...uh...reacting to having it pointed out that you do *exactly* the same thing you're accusing Angela of, and far more frequently, by getting all uppity and defensive? :-) I think the black that you're trying to convey is that you are always RIGHT when you claim to know what someone here is really thinking when they post, or what their real intent was behind the post, or when you add one of your famous Translation: comments to change what the poster actually said into what you think they said. :-) That's 47, BTW. :-) :-) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
From what I've heard, he tells most people that they are close to the score that correlates with being enlightened, but tells them that they just need that little extra push that he, along with his divine helpers, can of course supply. I have never heard of him telling someone that he or she has a very low score. I think the idea is to give people hope that they are almost there, and that a check in the mail will ensure that they get the boost they need. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If this is all they do, of what possible value could it be? You have a thought about how evolved you are. I don't get it? No, no, no, Pete...you really *don't* get it. It's not just a thought about how evolved you are, it's your OFFICIAL SCORE. You can use it often around Fairfield. For example: Excuse me, but I've noticed that you are in front of me in this queue. Why yes, I am. Is that a problem? That depends...what's your Casidy Rating? 438. Why? Well, my Casidy Rating is 872. So according to the laws of nature you have no right to be in front of me in this line. Oh, pardon me. I'll move behind you immediately. Thank you very much. That's very...uh...evolved of you, and I'm sure it will help you improve your score in the next incarnation. By the way, the people just behind me have higher Casidy Rating scores than you do, too, so you might as well keep going to the end of the line. See that fat guy there, Bevan? You can slip into the line right in front of him. :-) --- feste37 feste37@ wrote: I know one person who has done this and is very happy with it. I think the guy may be sincere and genuinely believes he can channel divine energies your way, but it seems like an unconscious scam to me, if that's the right phrase. He gets a lot of money each time someone enrolls but he doesn't have to do any more work to earn it and there is no way to verify what he is doing, if he is doing anything at all. I would say, avoid. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: Please give me and friends that lowdown on this governor couple which for USD 400 tells you your level of consciousness on a scale of 1 to 1,000 and for the initial fee continue to make follow up phone calls on one's status. Of course I have my own opinion, but this is being asked for a friend. Thank you kindly for your time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: I think the distinction was implicit in what Curtisdeltablues said, but Judy missed it. Now that she understands it, I think we're all pretty much in agreement. Angela. Every single time you venture to suss out my thinking, you fall flat on your face, and this is no exception. You're so wildly off-base here I don't know how to begin to go about straightening you out. Just stick to commenting on what people *say*, not what you imagine them to have understood. You'll be a lot better off. Pot. Kettle. Black. If we had a nickel for every time YOU have done this, we'd be able to afford to payt the two shyster-Governors to tell us how high we are. :-) No, see, the black here is to do it *cluelessly*, the way Angela does it-- and the way you do it as well. Both of you are so convinced of your own wonderfulness, of your own self- importance, that you don't think you need to pay attention to what people actually say. As opposed to...uh...reacting to having it pointed out that you do *exactly* the same thing you're accusing Angela of, and far more frequently, by getting all uppity and defensive? :-) This is an example, BTW, of what I'm talking about: You didn't pay attention to what I actually said, so your comment is a non sequitur. I think the black that you're trying to convey is that you are always RIGHT when you claim to know what someone here is really thinking when they post, or what their real intent was behind the post, or when you add one of your famous Translation: comments to change what the poster actually said into what you think they said. :-) Nope, not always (another example). But I'm a lot better at it than you or Angela, because I *pay attention* to what people say and base my remarks on that rather than just consulting my imagination.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, see, the black here is to do it *cluelessly*, the way Angela does it-- and the way you do it as well. Both of you are so convinced of your own wonderfulness, of your own self- importance, that you don't think you need to pay attention to what people actually say. As opposed to...uh...reacting to having it pointed out that you do *exactly* the same thing you're accusing Angela of, and far more frequently, by getting all uppity and defensive? :-) I think the black that you're trying to convey is that you are always RIGHT when you claim to know what someone here is really thinking when they post, or what their real intent was behind the post, or when you add one of your famous Translation: comments to change what the poster actually said into what you think they said. :-) That's 47, BTW. :-) :-) :-) Jesus, Barry. Counting Judy's posts? Will you ever grow up?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I occasionally wonder if this had been presented to me instead of TM in the early 70's, if I would have found it a useful tool. http://www.phoenix-services.org/betty.htm BTW, For you Milton Erickson fans out there I have been tactfully informed by a long standing NLP counselor that this being entirely of Betty's creation may be a bit apocryphal. It makes sense Milton may have helped in the construction of it. He did though, like to refer to it as her technique, and she was enthusiastic about promoting its use. Thanks for posting this. It reminds me of some drills John Grinder used to have us do to disrupt our thinking patterns to make a change or instill a new ability or confidence. I'm not sure I would have kept up with any technique without the whole belief system support of the higher states theory or even the stress theory. Most people I knew in NLP would use these kind of techniques for a specific purpose. I'll give it a whirl and see where it takes me. I am going to discuss hypnosis and especially self-hypnosis on a thread with Peter and I hope you'll join in with your insights.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If this is all they do, of what possible value could it be? You have a thought about how evolved you are. I don't get it? No, no, no, Pete...you really *don't* get it. It's not just a thought about how evolved you are, it's your OFFICIAL SCORE. You can use it often around Fairfield. For example: Excuse me, but I've noticed that you are in front of me in this queue. Why yes, I am. Is that a problem? That depends...what's your Casidy Rating? 438. Why? Well, my Casidy Rating is 872. So according to the laws of nature you have no right to be in front of me in this line. Oh, pardon me. I'll move behind you immediately. Thank you very much. That's very...uh...evolved of you, and I'm sure it will help you improve your score in the next incarnation. By the way, the people just behind me have higher Casidy Rating scores than you do, too, so you might as well keep going to the end of the line. See that fat guy there, Bevan? You can slip into the line right in front of him. :-) Very funny :-) But as the only one here with a score that blasts that fellows rating I can assure you, I've seen it, that Mr. Morris is doing very well indeed. The last few weeks has been a blast for Bevan. It is possible to read someones point of evolution. But it is not information intended for people still in incarnation. If anyone knows this Casidy fellow they should tell him to stop doing this immediately. It is not as grave, it won't have the same kind of consequences as fiddeling with other Masters meditation and using the checking procedure from Maharishi on Ammas students like Rich Archer is doing, but it still is a violation of occult law. So spoke mr Nablusoss: 1008 ! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: I think the distinction was implicit in what Curtisdeltablues said, but Judy missed it. Now that she understands it, I think we're all pretty much in agreement. Angela. Every single time you venture to suss out my thinking, you fall flat on your face, and this is no exception. You're so wildly off-base here I don't know how to begin to go about straightening you out. Just stick to commenting on what people *say*, not what you imagine them to have understood. You'll be a lot better off. Pot. Kettle. Black. If we had a nickel for every time YOU have done this, we'd be able to afford to payt the two shyster-Governors to tell us how high we are. :-) No, see, the black here is to do it *cluelessly*, the way Angela does it-- and the way you do it as well. Both of you are so convinced of your own wonderfulness, of your own self- importance, that you don't think you need to pay attention to what people actually say. As opposed to...uh...reacting to having it pointed out that you do *exactly* the same thing you're accusing Angela of, and far more frequently, by getting all uppity and defensive? :-) This is an example, BTW, of what I'm talking about: You didn't pay attention to what I actually said, so your comment is a non sequitur. I think the black that you're trying to convey is that you are always RIGHT when you claim to know what someone here is really thinking when they post, or what their real intent was behind the post, or when you add one of your famous Translation: comments to change what the poster actually said into what you think they said. :-) Nope, not always (another example). But I'm a lot better at it than you or Angela, because I *pay attention* to what people say and base my remarks on that rather than just consulting my imagination. 48. Compulsive posters with ego issues are so easy.
[FairfieldLife] When does week begin
I know about the 50 posts per week rule, but what is the first day of the week? Or is it a rolling seven days?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. Pete, I've been giving some thought to the distinctions you made on a previous post between meditation and hypnosis. I am very interested in your perspective on how they relate. Since both of them study the inward direction of a person's mind, there must be some areas of illumination for both fields. Here is where I am so far. 1. Studying hypnosis teaches you about how language shifts a person's state for their usual mix of sensory attention, to an inward state where the mind is more flexible. When I studied the language of hypnosis, I was struck with how teaching meditation used similar language patterns. Both techniques lead to a state of mind that is different from our eyes opened state. With the inner states self hypnosis achieve, the differences get even more murky. 2. But the goals and end state may have some big differences. Usually in hypnosis therapy you shift the state just enough to help facilitate a specific change in a behavior or thinking pattern. So getting to the deepest possible trance is not necessary or even desirable. In meditation the purpose is to experience your awareness itself in at it's simplest state, beyond the objects of attention. (I know MMY would have a conniption fit about having an intent in meditation to reach any state! I am not talking about the process, just the theoretical goal of reaching the source of thought) It is the state itself that is cultivated as an end in itself repeatedly, so that it can be experienced along with activity. (MMY has a washer woman dying a cloth analogy here, but in my version she gets her gauze-like blouse wet as she dyes the cloth!) 3. Because hypnosis has specific therapeutic goals it can be useful for making specific changes. The meditation state doesn't replace the states reached by hypnosis and vice versa. I am not 100% on this. 4. Self hypnosis as practiced by John Grinder in NLP begins to bridge the views a bit. He was always seeking what he called states of genius. States of mind that were not hampered by the constraints of pre-programming. He tries to push his mind into challenging situations that will squeeze out more resources. This might be as physical as rock climbing or as internal as mental techniques to shut down the mind's normal functions for a while. We used to do exercises of double inductions where you would have one person in each ear giving you different instructions for experience. 5. I have not seen that the transcending experience delivers more flexibility in a person's thinking as predicted by MMY. It is as if the state is so unstructured that it is separate from a person's mental function. In the context of a goal of enlightened functioning this doesn't seem to bother long-term practicers, who seem to place little emphasis on its relative benefits over time. 6. But the hypnosis change techniques take more effort and I never found them charming enough to practice them regularly, even though in the short term I have found them useful. When I start going inward in a self hypnosis technique my mind usually reverts to a more content free state of pure awareness so I feel too lazy to do specific work. 7. Vaj had some interesting distinctions that seemed to indicate that he believes that hypnosis and superficial meditation lead to a similar state. But that meditation if pursued further can lead to an even deeper state of mind. I tend to believe that this is possible, but I am not convinced that it is desirable. The only reason to go to such an extreme state of mind seems to be a confidence in a traditional perspective on its value within spiritual development. So that's a start if anyone would care to join in. I believe that keeping these two fields of understanding the mind's capability apart is a waste of possible perspective and insight. I think there is much that can be learned looking at each perspective to see where they overlap and where they differ. With techniques like the sidhis, I think we find more areas of overlap. the Age of Enlightenment technique is another obvious blend for me. Anytime we are functioning with specific intent within a state of meditation, hypnotic principles may apply. And since those principles with their benifits and pitfalls have been studied to some degree by some mental health professionals (Dr, Peter!) we might be able to understand our minds better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
a violation of occult law Nice one Nabby! I'm having fun picturing who might be the creatures who would enforce such laws from Tolkin and JK Rowling's works. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If this is all they do, of what possible value could it be? You have a thought about how evolved you are. I don't get it? No, no, no, Pete...you really *don't* get it. It's not just a thought about how evolved you are, it's your OFFICIAL SCORE. You can use it often around Fairfield. For example: Excuse me, but I've noticed that you are in front of me in this queue. Why yes, I am. Is that a problem? That depends...what's your Casidy Rating? 438. Why? Well, my Casidy Rating is 872. So according to the laws of nature you have no right to be in front of me in this line. Oh, pardon me. I'll move behind you immediately. Thank you very much. That's very...uh...evolved of you, and I'm sure it will help you improve your score in the next incarnation. By the way, the people just behind me have higher Casidy Rating scores than you do, too, so you might as well keep going to the end of the line. See that fat guy there, Bevan? You can slip into the line right in front of him. :-) Very funny :-) But as the only one here with a score that blasts that fellows rating I can assure you, I've seen it, that Mr. Morris is doing very well indeed. The last few weeks has been a blast for Bevan. It is possible to read someones point of evolution. But it is not information intended for people still in incarnation. If anyone knows this Casidy fellow they should tell him to stop doing this immediately. It is not as grave, it won't have the same kind of consequences as fiddeling with other Masters meditation and using the checking procedure from Maharishi on Ammas students like Rich Archer is doing, but it still is a violation of occult law. So spoke mr Nablusoss: 1008 ! ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the Washington Post's Mensa Invitational which once again asked readers to take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or changing one letter, and supply a new definition. I loved those. This week the Post is re-running a contest where you take a common word and give it a new definition. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/18/AR2008011801849.html?sub=new You probably have to sign in to read the link. Some winners from prior years: Apiary: An apartment shared by three bachelors. ( Registry: To give your final answer. Juggernaut: A flat-chested woman. Gypsum: The primary ingredient in car undercoating. A Dictionary of Honorable Mentions: Abed: Defeated in a debate. Alleviate: When you realize there isn't a word for it on the tip of your tongue, you invent a neologism. Asinine: Seven of Nine's ex-husband. Asinine: An almost perfect derrière. Aspic: Vote. Bedpan: To have an affair with a man who never grew up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about the 50 posts per week rule, but what is the first day of the week? Or is it a rolling seven days? As far as I know, the week starts at midnight Fairfield Time on Friday night. 00:00 Saturday morning. That's why I give Judy such a hard time about being so OCD about replying to every imagined slight that she's shot her wad by Monday morning. I keep thinking that *someday* she'll learn the value of picking your battles and exercising a little discrimination and self control, but so far it hasn't happened. Now try to imagine the time when there were NO posting limits, and in which she and two other people could -- and did -- post as much as the voices in their head told them to post. Things are better now...
RE: [FairfieldLife] Let me show you how to be successful and happy.
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:08 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about the 50 posts per week rule, but what is the first day of the week? Or is it a rolling seven days? As far as I know, the week starts at midnight Fairfield Time on Friday night. 00:00 Saturday morning. That’s right. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let me show you how to be successful and happy.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I removed her membership. Amazing Rick, that removed my misery! Thanks. Success and happiness are sure to follow! Rick Archer President SearchSummit HYPERLINK http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=1108+S.+B+St.csz=Fairfield% 2C+IA+52556-3805country=us \n1108 S. B St. Fairfield, IA 52556-3805 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: fax: Skype ID: HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signatureTo=641-472-9336Email=r [EMAIL PROTECTED] \n641-472-9336 914-470-9336 Rick_Archer HYPERLINK https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=25769982909v0=356483k0=1251699766v1=35648 4k1=804482755src=client_sig_212_1_card_joininvite=1 \nAlways have my latest info HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig; \nWant a signature like this? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susmita Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; p; p; p Subject: [FairfieldLife] Let me show you how to be successful and happy. Here is a link where you will find things that will remove all your miseries, obstacles, Bad luck and help you to succeed in life love and career. HYPERLINK http://www.west2india.com/c-102-yantra.aspxCLICK} SECRETOFLIFE _ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. HYPERLINK http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http:/mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8H DtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ%20Try it now. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: I know about the 50 posts per week rule, but what is the first day of the week? Or is it a rolling seven days? As far as I know, the week starts at midnight Fairfield Time on Friday night. 00:00 Saturday morning. That's why I give Judy such a hard time about being so OCD about replying to every imagined slight that she's shot her wad by Monday morning. I keep thinking that *someday* she'll learn the value of picking your battles and exercising a little discrimination and self control, but so far it hasn't happened. Um, I do pick my battles. Barry just wishes I'd pick *different* ones, particularly ones that don't involve exposing his phoniness. Nor are many or even most of the battles I do pick about imagined slights (or even real slights). That's Barry referring to his fantasies again instead of to reality. The amusing thing is that Barry is always on about the importance of having fun, yet it seems incomprehensible to him that a person might have more fun by shooting their wad for a few days rather than by carefully rationing their posts. Why, you'd almost think Barry takes posting to FFL very seriously.
[FairfieldLife] This guy has lots of interesting spiritual videos
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:40 AM, John wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Watch out for those gunas, John, especially when there's a full moon. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity ruthsimplicity@ wrote: I know about the 50 posts per week rule, but what is the first day of the week? Or is it a rolling seven days? As far as I know, the week starts at midnight Fairfield Time on Friday night. 00:00 Saturday morning. That's why I give Judy such a hard time about being so OCD about replying to every imagined slight that she's shot her wad by Monday morning. I keep thinking that *someday* she'll learn the value of picking your battles and exercising a little discrimination and self control, but so far it hasn't happened. Um, I do pick my battles. Barry just wishes I'd pick *different* ones, particularly ones that don't involve exposing his phoniness. Nor are many or even most of the battles I do pick about imagined slights (or even real slights). That's Barry referring to his fantasies again instead of to reality. The amusing thing is that Barry is always on about the importance of having fun, yet it seems incomprehensible to him that a person might have more fun by shooting their wad for a few days rather than by carefully rationing their posts. Why, you'd almost think Barry takes posting to FFL very seriously. No, but you do, and you've only got one left for the week. :-) Will you spend on something...uh...substantive, or will you piss it away on puny-ass grudges? Duh.
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[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be de-emphasized?
FF Trends: Pundits and dome invincible programs in FF to be de- emphasized? Quoting: Turning point in history: Hagelin said the motivation to establish the Maharishi Towers of invincibility arose from the news there are more than enough experts trained in Maharishi's peace-creating technologies of consciousness to raise the entire world to invincibility. The M towers of invincibility will be connected to the 48 centers Brahmananda Saraswati Nagars- that are now under construction in India. This is where Maharishi Vedic pandits will maintain coherence in world consciousness through their daily performance of transcendental meditation, yogic flying, and yagyas, Hagelin said. excerpt from front page TMmovement type of press release article published, in The Fairfield Daily Ledger Jan 17, 2008
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:53 AM, feste37 wrote: From what I've heard, he tells most people that they are close to the score that correlates with being enlightened, but tells them that they just need that little extra push that he, along with his divine helpers, can of course supply. I have never heard of him telling someone that he or she has a very low score. I think the idea is to give people hope that they are almost there, and that a check in the mail will ensure that they get the boost they need. How is this different from your garden-variety con scam artist, feste? I'm in complete awe that there's people out there who still actually fall for this junk. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy has lots of interesting spiritual videos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_RgS1EnLjY Wow... nice. Amma truly seems genuine to me. Thanks, Rick. Question: I've often heard that camphor burns without a residue. However, whenever I've burned camphor for the Guru Dev Puja, the camphor has left a sticky black residue. The camphor I've used came in little squares wrapped in plastic from the pharmacy. Is there a different kind that burns differently? ...anyone?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be …de-emphasized?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:42 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be …de-emphasized? The M towers of invincibility will be connected to the 48 centers … – Brahmananda Saraswati Nagars- that are now under construction in India. This is where Maharishi Vedic pandits will maintain coherence in world consciousness through their daily performance of … transcendental meditation, yogic flying, and yagyas, Hagelin said. If they’re only in India, and not FF, there will be no accountability. You’ll just have to take the TMO’s word that there are X number of pundits doing their thing over there. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a violation of occult law Nice one Nabby! I'm having fun picturing who might be the creatures who would enforce such laws from Tolkin and JK Rowling's works. Dolores Umbridge, whacking her wand on your head if you step in front of your betters.
[FairfieldLife] a fresh approach
a new site: http://www.beyondthemind.net/krishnamurti-index.html regards, jb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/J-Krishnamurti_andLife/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy has lots of interesting spiritual videos
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy has lots of interesting spiritual videos --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HYPERLINK HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_RgS1EnLjYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r _RgS1EnLjY Wow... nice. Amma truly seems genuine to me. Thanks, Rick. Question: I've often heard that camphor burns without a residue. However, whenever I've burned camphor for the Guru Dev Puja, the camphor has left a sticky black residue. The camphor I've used came in little squares wrapped in plastic from the pharmacy. Is there a different kind that burns differently? ...anyone? The video at the above link explains that there is edible camphor, extracted from a certain tree, vs. chemically manufactured camphor. The guy who put up the video said: The other video is one about Amma blessing water and her unique use of burning camphor in the water. I assume it's edible camphor she's burning, or at least they know where it comes from. Even so, the amount is probably diluted, considering even burning camphor in water a little while gives a strong aroma to the water, yet Amma's water given out doesn't have any smell of camphor (ie, it's safe!). In case any of you New Agers feel guided to burn camphor in water and drink it, please don't. Once you've re-peated my experiment, you'll see what's not seen on the vid: chunks of camphor are shooting off the burning piece and coating the surface of the water, since it doesn't readily dissolve in water. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM
[FairfieldLife] Diirghatamas and ambiguous sandhi, part 1
(Just fooling around...) The great Diirghatamas (Long darkness?), son of Ucathya (Aucathyo Diirghatamaa [sic!] RSiH) has written the suuktas 140 through 164 of the first maNDala of Rgveda. One of the kewlest suuktas of the Rgveda, IMO, is, well, that suukta called asya-vaamasya (I 164). The famous Rco akSare -verse is the 39th one of that suukta. The second hemistich of that verse goes like this: samhitaa-paaTha (sentence-reading): yas tan na veda kim Rcaa kariSyati, ya it tad vidus ta ime samaasate. pada-paaTha (= word reading) i.e., without sandhi: yaH | tat | na | veda | kim | Rcaa | kariSyati | ye | it | tat | viduH | te | ime | samaasate | Exercise: how do the words in the pada-paaTha differ from those in the samhitaa-paaTha?
[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy has lots of interesting spiritual videos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: This guy has lots of interesting spiritual videos --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: HYPERLINK HYPERLINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_RgS1EnLjYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r _RgS1EnLjY Wow... nice. Amma truly seems genuine to me. Thanks, Rick. Question: I've often heard that camphor burns without a residue. However, whenever I've burned camphor for the Guru Dev Puja, the camphor has left a sticky black residue. The camphor I've used came in little squares wrapped in plastic from the pharmacy. Is there a different kind that burns differently? ...anyone? The video at the above link explains that there is edible camphor, extracted from a certain tree, vs. chemically manufactured camphor. Any info on where the 'edible' non-residue camphor can be ordered?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
Like conveniently forgetting that my remarks about buildings falling were made
in the context of an article by a physicist?
- Original Message
From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:01:38 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL
PROTECTED] . wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
I think the distinction was implicit in what
Curtisdeltablues
said, but Judy missed it. Now that she understands it, I
think
we're all pretty much in agreement.
Angela. Every single time you venture to
suss out my thinking, you fall flat on your
face, and this is no exception. You're so
wildly off-base here I don't know how to
begin to go about straightening you out.
Just stick to commenting on what people
*say*, not what you imagine them to have
understood. You'll be a lot better off.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
If we had a nickel for every time YOU
have done this, we'd be able to afford
to payt the two shyster-Governors to
tell us how high we are. :-)
No, see, the black here is to do it
*cluelessly* , the way Angela does it--
and the way you do it as well. Both of
you are so convinced of your own
wonderfulness, of your own self-
importance, that you don't think you
need to pay attention to what people
actually say.
As opposed to...uh...reacting to having
it pointed out that you do *exactly* the
same thing you're accusing Angela of, and
far more frequently, by getting all uppity
and defensive? :-)
This is an example, BTW, of what I'm talking
about: You didn't pay attention to what I
actually said, so your comment is a non
sequitur.
I think the black that you're trying to
convey is that you are always RIGHT when you
claim to know what someone here is really
thinking when they post, or what their real
intent was behind the post, or when you add
one of your famous Translation: comments
to change what the poster actually said into
what you think they said. :-)
Nope, not always (another example). But I'm a
lot better at it than you or Angela, because I
*pay attention* to what people say and base my
remarks on that rather than just consulting my
imagination.
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[FairfieldLife] Would you see this movie?
Oliver Stone is going to do a movie about Dubya, a biography about how he came to power. At first I thought cool, but then I thought if we can't stand to look at the guy now whose going to want to see a movie about him? http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117979349.html?categoryid=10cs=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. That first contest so much fun that I sat in a cafe for a few minutes this afternoon and tried to come up with some of my own entries. Enjoy, and please contribute your own. This is a really fun word game. It is fun. A couple more: reguvenation: governor recertification transcent: What happens when you are in the dome meditating next to the guy who hasn't taken a shower medihater: A person who is vocally disappointed in his guru or meditation technique. comic consciousness: Off's state of being besearch: research into self awareness
[FairfieldLife] Religious Leaders Worldwide | Newsweek Religion | Newsweek.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: wrote: snip The amusing thing is that Barry is always on about the importance of having fun, yet it seems incomprehensible to him that a person might have more fun by shooting their wad for a few days rather than by carefully rationing their posts. Why, you'd almost think Barry takes posting to FFL very seriously. No, but you do Think Barry wants everyone to take him seriously on that point? I'll leave y'all to ponder that, because... and you've only got one left for the week. :-) ...that was my last post for the week. And perhaps the most fun of all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be de-emphasized?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:42 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be de-emphasized? The M towers of invincibility will be connected to the 48 centers Brahmananda Saraswati Nagars- that are now under construction in India. This is where Maharishi Vedic pandits will maintain coherence in world consciousness through their daily performance of transcendental meditation, yogic flying, and yagyas, Hagelin said. If they're only in India, and not FF, there will be no accountability. You'll just have to take the TMO's word that there are X number of pundits doing their thing over there. Vedic Pundits in Fairfield, Iowa, USA are like fish without water. I sincerely hope they will not have to stay in that atmosphere very long. In fact I hope all the meditators and Sidhas one day can go to India and live there permanently - no spiritual wampires allowed.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Trends, program s in FF to be …de-emphasized?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be …de-emphasized? Vedic Pundits in Fairfield, Iowa, USA are like fish without water. I sincerely hope they will not have to stay in that atmosphere very long. In fact I hope all the meditators and Sidhas one day can go to India and live there permanently - no spiritual wampires allowed. Does that mean that everyone in India practices the TM and TM-Sidhis program as taught by MMY? Is India Maharishi’s country? (Some in FF claim that FF is “Maharishi’s town” and that’s what you are implying). No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
On Jan 21, 2008, at 11:01 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: 7. Vaj had some interesting distinctions that seemed to indicate that he believes that hypnosis and superficial meditation lead to a similar state. But that meditation if pursued further can lead to an even deeper state of mind. I tend to believe that this is possible, but I am not convinced that it is desirable. The only reason to go to such an extreme state of mind seems to be a confidence in a traditional perspective on its value within spiritual development. For me the reason one would inquire as to the Nature of Mind is that it allows one to see the illusion of self built on self-and-other: the codependent arising of the virtual self. That insight allows our Ethical Know-How to arise as a direct experience. Once one begins see self as largely fragmented, transitory--inescapably so--the radical 'not-doing' of mindfulness fosters a freedom from conditioned states of mind which further fosters increased mindfulness in more and more areas of our life. Eventually we realize there is no self in any of our interactions--an experience which can be quite unnerving at first. But once one 'gets used to' this more unified, less self-centered perspective and the mind relaxes more and more into awareness, a natural sense of warmth and inclusiveness begins to appear naturally. Self interest naturally is replaced with interest in others. The full realization of our innate groundlessness or empty-nature cannot occur without that sense of warmth. Eventually we understand that the Nature of Mind, of groundlessness, is compassion. So it's really about coming into contact with our own Ethical Know-How--our innate virtue. We had it all along. The reason some systems of meditation place an emphasis on ethical behavior isn't because they want us to be good boys and girls, but because it's easier to grasp empty nature, our groundlessness, if we mimic it's natural qualities. The relative Awakened Heart is the basic starting point for realizing the absolute Awakened Heart. Absolute Awakened Heart allows Virtue to arise relatively as well: spontaneous appropriate action beyond naive compassion.
[FairfieldLife] Horns on a Rabbit
Thanks, Vaj for inspiring me to look for a real Horns on a rabbit creature: The Buddhist doctrine for this world Is not to be separated from worldly knowledge. To search for enlightenment apart from this world Is equivalent to seeking horns on a rabbit! Hui Neng It's #10: Ceratogaulus Rhinoceros. The Wired caption says This explains why there were no good golf courses in the Pliocene epoch. http://www.tinyurl.com/2ltzbz
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:40 AM, John wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Watch out for those gunas, John, especially when there's a full moon. Sal I know very well personally what its like to be unknowingly ruled by the gunas. For freedom's sake, I prefer to be without them. John R.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:31 PM, John wrote: I know very well personally what its like to be unknowingly ruled by the gunas. For freedom's sake, I prefer to be without them. John, I'm not sure if you're aware of the inherent irony in that last sentence, but thanks for the laugh. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
Vaj, Melancholy here. There's so much density in your statement -- who can expect the masses of the world to comprehend it or bother to care? I am bothered that we knowers cannot effectively communicate the basic facts of reality to those of less intellectual power, or less interest in spirituality, or already locked into another dogma, or, far more tellingly, not even to each other here when all of us seemingly have such spiritual acumen -- we're all dogma gunslingers at high noon here. I sag under the weight of the burden we truly face to get the world to think as we do. But it's not about getting the masses to think certain cool thoughts, eh? There's the rub. Mindfully chopping wood and carrying water might be a far better spiritual exercise than any teachable set of axioms we knowers could construct.er, if we were able to certify what a knower is. Another seven inches of snow is falling here, and, today, given this topic, it seems fitting as a metaphor: reality conspires to cover up minds faster than any of us shovelers can clear the walkways. Everytime you turn on the TV for a weather report, another storm (economic, political, environmental, etc.) is crossing our land and gathering the group consciousness into yet another cul-de-sac in which to roil while the elite buy their yachts. It was once so simple: The World Plan -- GAWD I wanted that to workwho couldn't understand sitting with eyes closed? But consider these troubling words of Christ: John 12:8 You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me. I wonder if that's where I messed up, and I became an elitist when Maharishi became my focus, and it became easy to ignore the real world for the Maharishi Christ I thought I'd found? I taught the program to thousands, lectured to tens of thousands, but did I really care about the world? Doesn't seem so. I'll make shoveling my walk a mindful japa meditation today -- might help. Each shovelful will have a billion perfect constructions of nature -- how's that for the utter plenitude of God? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 11:01 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: 7. Vaj had some interesting distinctions that seemed to indicate that he believes that hypnosis and superficial meditation lead to a similar state. But that meditation if pursued further can lead to an even deeper state of mind. I tend to believe that this is possible, but I am not convinced that it is desirable. The only reason to go to such an extreme state of mind seems to be a confidence in a traditional perspective on its value within spiritual development. For me the reason one would inquire as to the Nature of Mind is that it allows one to see the illusion of self built on self-and-other: the codependent arising of the virtual self. That insight allows our Ethical Know-How to arise as a direct experience. Once one begins see self as largely fragmented, transitory--inescapably so--the radical 'not-doing' of mindfulness fosters a freedom from conditioned states of mind which further fosters increased mindfulness in more and more areas of our life. Eventually we realize there is no self in any of our interactions--an experience which can be quite unnerving at first. But once one 'gets used to' this more unified, less self-centered perspective and the mind relaxes more and more into awareness, a natural sense of warmth and inclusiveness begins to appear naturally. Self interest naturally is replaced with interest in others. The full realization of our innate groundlessness or empty-nature cannot occur without that sense of warmth. Eventually we understand that the Nature of Mind, of groundlessness, is compassion. So it's really about coming into contact with our own Ethical Know-How--our innate virtue. We had it all along. The reason some systems of meditation place an emphasis on ethical behavior isn't because they want us to be good boys and girls, but because it's easier to grasp empty nature, our groundlessness, if we mimic it's natural qualities. The relative Awakened Heart is the basic starting point for realizing the absolute Awakened Heart. Absolute Awakened Heart allows Virtue to arise relatively as well: spontaneous appropriate action beyond naive compassion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. I have never been a TM teacher. So, I don't proclaim to know all of the TM dogma. Personally, I am specifically addressing how MMY would react to hypnotism, as he had mentioned on his commentary to the Gita. Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Overall, as MMY states in his commentary, people take on the practice of meditation for different purposes. There are those who seek knowledge of truth. And, there are those who seek a reprieve from misery. According to the Gita, either objectives are valid reasons to take up meditation or yoga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
On Jan 21, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Vaj, Melancholy here. There's so much density in your statement -- who can expect the masses of the world to comprehend it or bother to care? Well understand I am talking to Curtis, who may or may not get what I'm saying. I dunno, but I hope so! That's why I put it in terms of mindfulness, hopefully without too much technical baggage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Wow. That first contest so much fun that I sat in a cafe for a few minutes this afternoon and tried to come up with some of my own entries. Enjoy, and please contribute your own. This is a really fun word game. It is fun. A couple more: reguvenation: governor recertification transcent: What happens when you are in the dome meditating next to the guy who hasn't taken a shower medihater: A person who is vocally disappointed in his guru or meditation technique. comic consciousness: Off's state of being besearch: research into self awareness Very nice. I was wondering if anyone else would join in the fun. 'Reguvination' is particularly cool. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Given MMY's lack of interest in any idea that didn't come from his own mouth, I find it highly unlikely that he has more than the most superficial understanding of the many styles of hypnosis. I can't even imagine a context where he would be exposed to these ideas. Like GW Bush, MMY is not much of a reader, so his views are often shaped by one person he talked with about a certain subject. And like GW, this superficial exposure to ideas suits him fine cuz he is following his inner truthiness and doesn't like confronting details that contradict that. Even when he works with the physicists he is often caught up with how a word sounds rather then its meaning. He will riff on a rhyme for an hour rather than get into the actual meaning of a physics term. As far as his opinion of whatever he is not selling himself goes...you can pretty much predict is uninformed position without ever getting into the content. Selling it = Good Not selling it = Bad --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- John jr_esq@ wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. I have never been a TM teacher. So, I don't proclaim to know all of the TM dogma. Personally, I am specifically addressing how MMY would react to hypnotism, as he had mentioned on his commentary to the Gita. Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Overall, as MMY states in his commentary, people take on the practice of meditation for different purposes. There are those who seek knowledge of truth. And, there are those who seek a reprieve from misery. According to the Gita, either objectives are valid reasons to take up meditation or yoga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: wrote: snip The amusing thing is that Barry is always on about the importance of having fun, yet it seems incomprehensible to him that a person might have more fun by shooting their wad for a few days rather than by carefully rationing their posts. Why, you'd almost think Barry takes posting to FFL very seriously. No, but you do Think Barry wants everyone to take him seriously on that point? I'll leave y'all to ponder that, because... and you've only got one left for the week. :-) ...that was my last post for the week. And perhaps the most fun of all. Judy, the point you keep missing is that it really isn't about when you use up your 50 posts. It's what you use them up ON that's so disappointing. A mind like yours, and your idea of fun is to get off on trying to lessen people you don't like, hold grudges against people for decades, play word games about silly nitpicks that no one sane cares about, and defend beliefs that you probably don't even *hold* any more. What a waste. The Rama guy I studied with had an interesting take on America. He always said that the problem with it was that its people have such mediocre dreams. THAT is why I keep nagging at you, Jude...to see if someday, somehow, I or someone else here can get through to you and get you to see that you have wasted 14+ years of your life pursuing really, really, really mediocre ideas of fun.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:31 PM, John wrote: I know very well personally what its like to be unknowingly ruled by the gunas. For freedom's sake, I prefer to be without them. John, I'm not sure if you're aware of the inherent irony in that last sentence, but thanks for the laugh. Sal Sal, are you laughing because you don't believe in the gunas, or is it because it's impossible to be free from them? John R.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 8:53 AM, feste37 wrote: From what I've heard, he tells most people that they are close to the score that correlates with being enlightened, but tells them that they just need that little extra push that he, along with his divine helpers, can of course supply. I have never heard of him telling someone that he or she has a very low score. I think the idea is to give people hope that they are almost there, and that a check in the mail will ensure that they get the boost they need. How is this different from your garden-variety con scam artist, feste? I'm in complete awe that there's people out there who still actually fall for this junk. Sal I doubt its an outright scam on their part. I'm sure they believe they are actually doing what they claim to be doing. In fact, maybe they are doing what they claim to be doing! Who knows! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Given MMY's lack of interest in any idea that didn't come from his own mouth, I find it highly unlikely that he has more than the most superficial understanding of the many styles of hypnosis. I can't even imagine a context where he would be exposed to these ideas. Like GW Bush, MMY is not much of a reader, so his views are often shaped by one person he talked with about a certain subject. And like GW, this superficial exposure to ideas suits him fine cuz he is following his inner truthiness and doesn't like confronting details that contradict that. Even when he works with the physicists he is often caught up with how a word sounds rather then its meaning. He will riff on a rhyme for an hour rather than get into the actual meaning of a physics term. As far as his opinion of whatever he is not selling himself goes...you can pretty much predict is uninformed position without ever getting into the content. Selling it = Good Not selling it = Bad MMY may know more about hypnotism than you think. From what I've read, hynoptism has been practiced in India for thousands of years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- John jr_esq@ wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. I have never been a TM teacher. So, I don't proclaim to know all of the TM dogma. Personally, I am specifically addressing how MMY would react to hypnotism, as he had mentioned on his commentary to the Gita. Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Overall, as MMY states in his commentary, people take on the practice of meditation for different purposes. There are those who seek knowledge of truth. And, there are those who seek a reprieve from misery. According to the Gita, either objectives are valid reasons to take up meditation or yoga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
This is really interesting Vaj! Thanks for summing up a lot of info in a concise form. I'll need to give it some more thought but here is where I am now: I'm not sure I feel a need to go beyond naive compassion. When it comes to ethics, that seems to work pretty well. Ethics seems like almost a given if you have been well brought up to function with integrity in society. For those encounters in life where the lines are less easy to draw, I think we all just wing it as best we can. By watching the results you can do better next time. I don't know if a certain state of mind really improves this human situation. As far as the virtual self goes, I'm not sure I could relate to this concept without your background and training in using it. So it might apply to my experience and I just don't know it. It is not a perspective that I would naturally come across outside some specialized teaching. And that was my point before. You pretty much have to have an ounce of faith that the system has a deeper insight to go through the steps to experience it for yourself. As far as increased mindfulness in our life goes, this concepts does have immediate appeal. I have been spending more time applying this concept to my life and I think there is obvious value. Although I am probably practicing it on a much lower level than a radical no self state. It may be semantics, or it may be a real difference in the state of mind. But practically, driving home from a gig in another state this Winter in an ice storm, I did use this perspective to allow the experience instead of resisting it and plunging into debilitating terror. I was able to flow into the shitstorm and relax for the hours it took to get out of it. Of course my version may have nothing to do with what you are talking about! But it was useful even on my level. I'll give what you wrote more thought. This is a very useful discussion for me so thanks for that! I may have to have more exposure over time to some of the concepts you raise to begin to understand them as you do. For me the reason one would inquire as to the Nature of Mind is that it allows one to see the illusion of self built on self-and-other: the codependent arising of the virtual self. That insight allows our Ethical Know-How to arise as a direct experience. Once one begins see self as largely fragmented, transitory--inescapably so--the radical 'not-doing' of mindfulness fosters a freedom from conditioned states of mind which further fosters increased mindfulness in more and more areas of our life. Eventually we realize there is no self in any of our interactions--an experience which can be quite unnerving at first. But once one 'gets used to' this more unified, less self-centered perspective and the mind relaxes more and more into awareness, a natural sense of warmth and inclusiveness begins to appear naturally. Self interest naturally is replaced with interest in others. The full realization of our innate groundlessness or empty-nature cannot occur without that sense of warmth. Eventually we understand that the Nature of Mind, of groundlessness, is compassion. So it's really about coming into contact with our own Ethical Know-How--our innate virtue. We had it all along. The reason some systems of meditation place an emphasis on ethical behavior isn't because they want us to be good boys and girls, but because it's easier to grasp empty nature, our groundlessness, if we mimic it's natural qualities. The relative Awakened Heart is the basic starting point for realizing the absolute Awakened Heart. Absolute Awakened Heart allows Virtue to arise relatively as well: spontaneous appropriate action beyond naive compassion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
I just got my rating and its a 4. Hmmm. Trouble ahead? --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a violation of occult law Nice one Nabby! I'm having fun picturing who might be the creatures who would enforce such laws from Tolkin and JK Rowling's works. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If this is all they do, of what possible value could it be? You have a thought about how evolved you are. I don't get it? No, no, no, Pete...you really *don't* get it. It's not just a thought about how evolved you are, it's your OFFICIAL SCORE. You can use it often around Fairfield. For example: Excuse me, but I've noticed that you are in front of me in this queue. Why yes, I am. Is that a problem? That depends...what's your Casidy Rating? 438. Why? Well, my Casidy Rating is 872. So according to the laws of nature you have no right to be in front of me in this line. Oh, pardon me. I'll move behind you immediately. Thank you very much. That's very...uh...evolved of you, and I'm sure it will help you improve your score in the next incarnation. By the way, the people just behind me have higher Casidy Rating scores than you do, too, so you might as well keep going to the end of the line. See that fat guy there, Bevan? You can slip into the line right in front of him. :-) Very funny :-) But as the only one here with a score that blasts that fellows rating I can assure you, I've seen it, that Mr. Morris is doing very well indeed. The last few weeks has been a blast for Bevan. It is possible to read someones point of evolution. But it is not information intended for people still in incarnation. If anyone knows this Casidy fellow they should tell him to stop doing this immediately. It is not as grave, it won't have the same kind of consequences as fiddeling with other Masters meditation and using the checking procedure from Maharishi on Ammas students like Rich Archer is doing, but it still is a violation of occult law. So spoke mr Nablusoss: 1008 ! ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
On Jan 21, 2008, at 1:07 PM, John wrote: John, I'm not sure if you're aware of the inherent irony in that last sentence, but thanks for the laugh. Sal Sal, are you laughing because you don't believe in the gunas, or is it because it's impossible to be free from them? At the whole idea that someone would try to 'free' themselves from creations of their own minds, John. Unless you really feel that your brain is inhabited by little green whatevers, there's nothing to free yourself from. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard and Lynn Casidy
On Jan 21, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Peter wrote: I just got my rating and its a 4. Hmmm. Trouble ahead? I just got mine and it's -25! Holy sh*t! Maybe John has a point about those gunas after all. I do believe in gunas, I do believe in gunas, I do believe... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
MMY may know more about hypnotism than you think. From what I've read, hynoptism has been practiced in India for thousands of years. If that is the case then he might have had exposure to traditional hypnosis techniques but not a modern understanding, particularly after the work of Milton Erickson and the modeling of his techniques and extraction of his strategies by Neuro Linguistic Programming founders, Grinder and Bandler. To put it in TM context, this is like saying you know all about meditation because you learned a concentration technique before TM was out. There is little likelihood that MMY spent any time being open to the advancements that have come in understanding hypnotic states in modern times. One of my biggest problems with MMY's POV is his lack of openness to the advancement of knowledge. He believes it was already complete in the past. His use of science a marketing prop is an example of his disdain for modern scientific insights compared with the so called complete knowledge in the Vedic literature. So that is why I don't take him as an authority on anything other than his TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Given MMY's lack of interest in any idea that didn't come from his own mouth, I find it highly unlikely that he has more than the most superficial understanding of the many styles of hypnosis. I can't even imagine a context where he would be exposed to these ideas. Like GW Bush, MMY is not much of a reader, so his views are often shaped by one person he talked with about a certain subject. And like GW, this superficial exposure to ideas suits him fine cuz he is following his inner truthiness and doesn't like confronting details that contradict that. Even when he works with the physicists he is often caught up with how a word sounds rather then its meaning. He will riff on a rhyme for an hour rather than get into the actual meaning of a physics term. As far as his opinion of whatever he is not selling himself goes...you can pretty much predict is uninformed position without ever getting into the content. Selling it = Good Not selling it = Bad MMY may know more about hypnotism than you think. From what I've read, hynoptism has been practiced in India for thousands of years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- John jr_esq@ wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. I have never been a TM teacher. So, I don't proclaim to know all of the TM dogma. Personally, I am specifically addressing how MMY would react to hypnotism, as he had mentioned on his commentary to the Gita. Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Overall, as MMY states in his commentary, people take on the practice of meditation for different purposes. There are those who seek knowledge of truth. And, there are those who seek a reprieve from misery. According to the Gita, either objectives are valid reasons to take up meditation or yoga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
This reminded me of the recall of the SCI tapes dealing with biology and ? can't remember the other one (maybe chemistry.) They recalled two of the tapes during the first year that they were out. I taught my first SCI class in Napa, CA using them, and when I played them, I just squirmed throughout the session because Maharishi's biology was so goofy-assedno wonder they withdrew it. So much for Maharishi's connection to the basic truths of existence. I wonder if I would squirm as much today -- maybe he was far seeing and only now biologists are catching up to his vision -- ahem, rght. Everyone's got an opinion, but I took Maharishi's as concepts of pristine clarity delivered to him by the devas that oversaw the laws of nature. Like that. Sigh. Here's how bad the pain is to look into my mirror: I can't even ask Edg, what were you thinking? I fucking know what I was thinking, and I should have yelled loudly almost from the get-go about the imperfections touted by the movement as inconsequential or easily explained and spun. I saw the tells, and just turned from their truth. Shudda got out of TM in the first year if I'd had integrity, but, nope, my hopes and faith (denial) locked me into a thirty year battle for my freedom from Maharishi-says-ism. It's a hard thing to know about one's own earplugs and blinders. So hard, that on my better days, I forgive Nab, Off, Shemp, George, Dick, et al for their continued travail with the tar baby. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Given MMY's lack of interest in any idea that didn't come from his own mouth, I find it highly unlikely that he has more than the most superficial understanding of the many styles of hypnosis. I can't even imagine a context where he would be exposed to these ideas. Like GW Bush, MMY is not much of a reader, so his views are often shaped by one person he talked with about a certain subject. And like GW, this superficial exposure to ideas suits him fine cuz he is following his inner truthiness and doesn't like confronting details that contradict that. Even when he works with the physicists he is often caught up with how a word sounds rather then its meaning. He will riff on a rhyme for an hour rather than get into the actual meaning of a physics term. As far as his opinion of whatever he is not selling himself goes...you can pretty much predict is uninformed position without ever getting into the content. Selling it = Good Not selling it = Bad --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- John jr_esq@ wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. I have never been a TM teacher. So, I don't proclaim to know all of the TM dogma. Personally, I am specifically addressing how MMY would react to hypnotism, as he had mentioned on his commentary to the Gita. Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Overall, as MMY states in his commentary, people take on the practice of meditation for different purposes. There are those who seek knowledge of truth. And, there are those who seek a reprieve from misery. According to the Gita, either objectives are valid reasons to take up meditation or yoga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 1:07 PM, John wrote: John, I'm not sure if you're aware of the inherent irony in that last sentence, but thanks for the laugh. Sal Sal, are you laughing because you don't believe in the gunas, or is it because it's impossible to be free from them? At the whole idea that someone would try to 'free' themselves from creations of their own minds, John. Unless you really feel that your brain is inhabited by little green whatevers, there's nothing to free yourself from. Sal Now, you're getting to an area in which the Gita discusses for seventeen chapters or so. I don't believe we have time to dissect the merits and demerits of using the word gunas to describe the fluctuations of the mind in the relative world. John R.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When does week begin
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about the 50 posts per week rule, but what is the first day of the week? Or is it a rolling seven days? As far as I know, the week starts at midnight Fairfield Time on Friday night. 00:00 Saturday morning. That's why I give Judy such a hard time about being so OCD about replying to every imagined slight that she's shot her wad by Monday morning. I keep thinking that *someday* she'll learn the value of picking your battles and exercising a little discrimination and self control, but so far it hasn't happened. Now try to imagine the time when there were NO posting limits, and in which she and two other people could -- and did -- post as much as the voices in their head told them to post. Things are better now... Saturday mornings on FFL resemble a horse race. You could almost do a play by play starting with they're off an running! It's Judy in the lead followed by I just ignored those posts when there were no limits. I don't believe in limits at all. I'm not a baby and don't need diapers but apparently some folks need assistance when it comes to reading Yahoo Groups. :D :D :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
Well my heavens if you worked worth John Grinder, you know a few things about the subject! I am not an expert on hypnosis. I attended a hypnotherapy certification course years ago at NLP Comprehensive in a suburb outside Denver. The business now sells books and DVD's on NLP, I don't believe they organize seminars anymore. It was at that course where Betty's method was introduced. I did hypnotherapy with a few friends, however I did not develop it into a full time occupation. http://www.nlpco.com/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey aztjbailey@ wrote: I occasionally wonder if this had been presented to me instead of TM in the early 70's, if I would have found it a useful tool. http://www.phoenix-services.org/betty.htm BTW, For you Milton Erickson fans out there I have been tactfully informed by a long standing NLP counselor that this being entirely of Betty's creation may be a bit apocryphal. It makes sense Milton may have helped in the construction of it. He did though, like to refer to it as her technique, and she was enthusiastic about promoting its use. Thanks for posting this. It reminds me of some drills John Grinder used to have us do to disrupt our thinking patterns to make a change or instill a new ability or confidence. I'm not sure I would have kept up with any technique without the whole belief system support of the higher states theory or even the stress theory. Most people I knew in NLP would use these kind of techniques for a specific purpose. I'll give it a whirl and see where it takes me. I am going to discuss hypnosis and especially self-hypnosis on a thread with Peter and I hope you'll join in with your insights.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
From Larry Domash-(Attn: Judy) Behind these rules of neurophysiological specificity there lies a rich and fascinating theory of the mantras and their application; *to date Maharishi has not published his interpretation of this theory*, although he has indicated a desire to do so. MMY still hasn't and apparently won't. So you see Judy, it will always be controversial, that is, the mystery of the mantras vis-a-vis TM! We know basically where they come from but how MMY arrived at what he did is his secret!, which is buried in his mind and won't see the light of day! It's gotta make you wonder.I guess you're pleased just taking MMY's word for it, so be it! From the History of TM by Larry Domash (link below). http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.transcendental/msg/ca2a85b2ebe3f495?q=domash+collected+group%3Aalt.meditation.transcendental
[FairfieldLife] Oh Lovely!
Just wait until tomorrow because the US markets are closed for the holiday: http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Stock_markets_plunge_worldwide_01212008.html Good things we are all not attached to our money and investments, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
Well, maybe its been hard-won, but there is often wisdom in your comments. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminded me of the recall of the SCI tapes dealing with biology and ? can't remember the other one (maybe chemistry.) They recalled two of the tapes during the first year that they were out. I taught my first SCI class in Napa, CA using them, and when I played them, I just squirmed throughout the session because Maharishi's biology was so goofy-assedno wonder they withdrew it. So much for Maharishi's connection to the basic truths of existence. I wonder if I would squirm as much today -- maybe he was far seeing and only now biologists are catching up to his vision -- ahem, rght. Everyone's got an opinion, but I took Maharishi's as concepts of pristine clarity delivered to him by the devas that oversaw the laws of nature. Like that. Sigh. Here's how bad the pain is to look into my mirror: I can't even ask Edg, what were you thinking? I fucking know what I was thinking, and I should have yelled loudly almost from the get-go about the imperfections touted by the movement as inconsequential or easily explained and spun. I saw the tells, and just turned from their truth. Shudda got out of TM in the first year if I'd had integrity, but, nope, my hopes and faith (denial) locked me into a thirty year battle for my freedom from Maharishi-says-ism. It's a hard thing to know about one's own earplugs and blinders. So hard, that on my better days, I forgive Nab, Off, Shemp, George, Dick, et al for their continued travail with the tar baby. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Given MMY's lack of interest in any idea that didn't come from his own mouth, I find it highly unlikely that he has more than the most superficial understanding of the many styles of hypnosis. I can't even imagine a context where he would be exposed to these ideas. Like GW Bush, MMY is not much of a reader, so his views are often shaped by one person he talked with about a certain subject. And like GW, this superficial exposure to ideas suits him fine cuz he is following his inner truthiness and doesn't like confronting details that contradict that. Even when he works with the physicists he is often caught up with how a word sounds rather then its meaning. He will riff on a rhyme for an hour rather than get into the actual meaning of a physics term. As far as his opinion of whatever he is not selling himself goes...you can pretty much predict is uninformed position without ever getting into the content. Selling it = Good Not selling it = Bad --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- John jr_esq@ wrote: MMY has warned readers about the use of hypnotism. It is not the same as meditation. As I understand it, hypnotism does not free one from the gunas. Rather, it makes one be more attached to the gunas. Meditation has its place. Hypnosis has its place. Reading this post makes you more attached to the gunas. John instead of repeating boilerplate TM dogma, try thinking independently. Quite refreshing, actually. I have never been a TM teacher. So, I don't proclaim to know all of the TM dogma. Personally, I am specifically addressing how MMY would react to hypnotism, as he had mentioned on his commentary to the Gita. Based on my experience with the TM practice, I am confirming the reason why MMY has questions about the use of hypnotism. Overall, as MMY states in his commentary, people take on the practice of meditation for different purposes. There are those who seek knowledge of truth. And, there are those who seek a reprieve from misery. According to the Gita, either objectives are valid reasons to take up meditation or yoga. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Lovely!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wait until tomorrow because the US markets are closed for the holiday: http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Stock_markets_plunge_worldwide_012 12008.html Good things we are all not attached to our money and investments, right? The Question is: how long should one wait before starting merrily buying underpriced stocks? :)
[FairfieldLife] 'Nader R�m's Message to Maharishi'
Maharâja Nader Râm's Message to Maharishi 12 January 2008 Your gift of infinite silence, eternal peace, with none other than you in it I embraced, my Lord, with joy and it filled me with bliss. In it You breathe life into Ved. Your thoughts are pure knowledge. In it You leave nothing to be desired. There is no need, no want. You are the soul of all that there is: Atma, Brahm, eternal freedom, totality, unboundedness. Tender softly permeating everything, all encompassing, binding the loose ends of creation, unifying all opposites, resolving all conflicts. You are and give meaning and all the glory to silence, that gift of Guru Dev, that which You taught us to be Guru Dev. With Your grace, my Lord, my silence has been full. Please, today do not wish us to experience its emptiness. I shall remain in it, but, please, do not take away from me the hope to be always able to open my eyes and say: Jai Guru Dev. For other than to You and under your guidance to whom shall I speak? Yes, of course, You say and I know, You will be with me forever and my task will be easy keeping You company in silence. But why, suddenly today, I feel the need to speak and the need to tell You again and again and never loose the chance to be able to tell You again how much I adore you. Yes, I know that we will be together unified and strong with you, for there is nothing in us other than You and I see the day, when I will be fulfilled again, that day which I cannot wait for too long, that day when everyone alive on this planet earth will in every breath in his heart and mind uphold Your silence Your Guru Dev, our Guru Dev. Only on that day, maybe, I will stop missing you. Jai Guru Dev - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Lovely!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wait until tomorrow because the US markets are closed for the holiday: Here's what they're saying about tomorrow: U.S. stock futures point to major decline on reopen http://tinyurl.com/22cvgk http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Stock_markets_plunge_worldwide_01212008.html Good things we are all not attached to our money and investments, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be de-emphasized?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Trends, programs in FF to be de-emphasized? Vedic Pundits in Fairfield, Iowa, USA are like fish without water. I sincerely hope they will not have to stay in that atmosphere very long. In fact I hope all the meditators and Sidhas one day can go to India and live there permanently - no spiritual wampires allowed. Does that mean that everyone in India practices the TM and TM- Sidhis program as taught by MMY? Is India Maharishi's country? (Some in FF claim that FF is Maharishi's town and that's what you are implying). Get a hug.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's secret!
That's 47, BTW. Jesus, Barry. Counting Judy's posts? Will you ever grow up? Another perfectly good discussion topic hijacked. Why don't you just tell us where the TM mantras come from? What's the big secret? Fifty years obsfuscation and conning the poor students - this is outrageous behavior. Why can't you TMers just be honest? Stop the lying! Maharishi's secret! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/161709
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice. I was wondering if anyone else would join in the fun. 'Reguvination' is particularly cool. :-) Yogic frying: bringing out the flavor of spices by heating in ghee.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Very nice. I was wondering if anyone else would join in the fun. 'Reguvination' is particularly cool. :-) Here's one, Barry--- superlafib: a really good lie. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Nader Râm's Message to Maharishi'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharâja Nader Râm's Message to Maharishi 12 January 2008 Your gift of infinite silence, eternal peace, with none other than you in it I embraced, my Lord, with joy and it filled me with bliss. In it You breathe life into Ved. Your thoughts are pure knowledge. In it You leave nothing to be desired. There is no need, no want. You are the soul of all that there is: Atma, Brahm, eternal freedom, totality, unboundedness. Tender softly permeating everything, all encompassing, binding the loose ends of creation, unifying all opposites, resolving all conflicts. You are and give meaning and all the glory to silence, that gift of Guru Dev, that which You taught us to be Guru Dev. With Your grace, my Lord, my silence has been full. Please, today do not wish us to experience its emptiness. I shall remain in it, but, please, do not take away from me the hope to be always able to open my eyes and say: Jai Guru Dev. For other than to You and under your guidance to whom shall I speak? Yes, of course, You say and I know, You will be with me forever and my task will be easy keeping You company in silence. But why, suddenly today, I feel the need to speak and the need to tell You again and again and never loose the chance to be able to tell You again how much I adore you. Yes, I know that we will be together unified and strong with you, for there is nothing in us other than You and I see the day, when I will be fulfilled again, that day which I cannot wait for too long, that day when everyone alive on this planet earth will in every breath in his heart and mind uphold Your silence Your Guru Dev, our Guru Dev. Only on that day, maybe, I will stop missing you. Jai Guru Dev That's funny, MMY never claimed to be any of that!! In fact he constantly diverted his attention from himself to Guru Dev, we don't know who or what MMY was,and he never said! Was he enlightened?, who knows?, nobody! But I'm sure he will be a part of the Holy Tradition now, in spite of it starting with him (TM started with him), oh well, that would be par for the course with the TMorg.
[FairfieldLife] 'Video: Obama's Transcendent Speech'
Subject: VIDEO: Obama's speech at Dr. King's church Robert -- Barack Obama gave a stirring speech at Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s church in Atlanta, Georgia on Sunday morning. Watch this video of the event and share it with someone you know: http://my.barackobama.com/KingChurch The full text of the speech is below. Thank you, Obama for America -- Remarks of Senator Barack Obama: The Great Need of the Hour Atlanta, GA | January 20, 2008 The Scripture tells us that when Joshua and the Israelites arrived at the gates of Jericho, they could not enter. The walls of the city were too steep for any one person to climb; too strong to be taken down with brute force. And so they sat for days, unable to pass on through. But God had a plan for his people. He told them to stand together and march together around the city, and on the seventh day he told them that when they heard the sound of the ram's horn, they should speak with one voice. And at the chosen hour, when the horn sounded and a chorus of voices cried out together, the mighty walls of Jericho came tumbling down. There are many lessons to take from this passage, just as there are many lessons to take from this day, just as there are many memories that fill the space of this church. As I was thinking about which ones we need to remember at this hour, my mind went back to the very beginning of the modern Civil Rights Era. Because before Memphis and the mountaintop; before the bridge in Selma and the march on Washington; before Birmingham and the beatings; the fire hoses and the loss of those four little girls; before there was King the icon and his magnificent dream, there was King the young preacher and a people who found themselves suffering under the yoke of oppression. And on the eve of the bus boycotts in Montgomery, at a time when many were still doubtful about the possibilities of change, a time when those in the black community mistrusted themselves, and at times mistrusted each other, King inspired with words not of anger, but of an urgency that still speaks to us today: Unity is the great need of the hour is what King said. Unity is how we shall overcome. What Dr. King understood is that if just one person chose to walk instead of ride the bus, those walls of oppression would not be moved. But maybe if a few more walked, the foundation might start to shake. If a few more women were willing to do what Rosa Parks had done, maybe the cracks would start to show. If teenagers took freedom rides from North to South, maybe a few bricks would come loose. Maybe if white folks marched because they had come to understand that their freedom too was at stake in the impending battle, the wall would begin to sway. And if enough Americans were awakened to the injustice; if they joined together, North and South, rich and poor, Christian and Jew, then perhaps that wall would come tumbling down, and justice would flow like water, and righteousness like a mighty stream. Unity is the great need of the hour -- the great need of this hour. Not because it sounds pleasant or because it makes us feel good, but because it's the only way we can overcome the essential deficit that exists in this country. I'm not talking about a budget deficit. I'm not talking about a trade deficit. I'm not talking about a deficit of good ideas or new plans. I'm talking about a moral deficit. I'm talking about an empathy deficit. I'm taking about an inability to recognize ourselves in one another; to understand that we are our brother's keeper; we are our sister's keeper; that, in the words of Dr. King, we are all tied together in a single garment of destiny. We have an empathy deficit when we're still sending our children down corridors of shame -- schools in the forgotten corners of America where the color of your skin still affects the content of your education. We have a deficit when CEOs are making more in ten minutes than some workers make in ten months; when families lose their homes so that lenders make a profit; when mothers can't afford a doctor when their children get sick. We have a deficit in this country when there is Scooter Libby justice for some and Jena justice for others; when our children see nooses hanging from a schoolyard tree today, in the present, in the twenty-first century. We have a deficit when homeless veterans sleep on the streets of our cities; when innocents are slaughtered in the deserts of Darfur; when young Americans serve tour after tour of duty in a war that should've never been authorized and never been waged. And we have a deficit when it takes a breach in our levees to reveal a breach in our compassion; when it takes a terrible storm to reveal the hungry that God calls on us to feed; the sick He calls on us to care for; the least of these He commands that we treat as our own. So we have a deficit to close. We have walls --
[FairfieldLife] Word Fun
Someone today described the TM movement as The Bland leading the Bland Tom
[FairfieldLife] hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... she was having sex with him and going to the ia course or school ?? perhaps not currently enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two years ago. i was in classes with her about three years ago. he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary and finds pretty things to screw ??? this is common knowledge among the people who know her. so what right, but his character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his salary for that building he is gonna give maharishi kinda dumb but does anyone want to talk about these so called leaders were being left with. they talk a different rap than what they live eh
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word Fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone today described the TM movement as The Bland leading the Bland Tom So, that would be the Maharishi Affect? People suffering from invincibla?
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... she was having sex with him and going to the ia course or school ?? perhaps not currently enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two years ago. i was in classes with her about three years ago. he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary and finds pretty things to screw ??? this is common knowledge among the people who know her. so what right, but his character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his salary for that building he is gonna give maharishi kinda dumb but does anyone want to talk about these so called leaders were being left with. they talk a different rap than what they live eh Haglin has sex? Don't make me imagine it. Oh ish.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
Not as bad as Bevan would be to imagine in that position. - Original Message From: ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:22:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, nadarrombus royboyunity@ ... wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... she was having sex with him and going to the ia course or school ?? perhaps not currently enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two years ago. i was in classes with her about three years ago. he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary and finds pretty things to screw ??? this is common knowledge among the people who know her. so what right, but his character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his salary for that building he is gonna give maharishi??? ? kinda dumb but does anyone want to talk about these so called leaders were being left with. they talk a different rap than what they live eh Haglin has sex? Don't make me imagine it. Oh ish. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] 12-story tower in Fairfield, fire?
Om, Twelve story tower complex? Jefferson County has the fire safety resources to back up such a building? Or, would Vedic City come forward to have the necessary fire equipment for it? Fairfield Meditating community to build 12-story tower complex. According to front page press-release article of The Fairfield Ledger (Jan 17,2008 edition), the project of a twelve story building flanked with two large buildings has been inaugurated, offered as a gift by John Hagelin, raja of the United States.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word Fun
Someone today described the TM movement as The Bland leading the Bland So, that would be the Maharishi Affect? No, that's the Ben Afflect, and the Jennifer Nopez. Which is the bland leaving the bland, and no candy for Jennifer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
How about: Invinbicility--the belief that your butt-bouncing has saved the nation and the world when the stock-market is in turmoil and housing starts, the value of the dollar and other economic indicators swim with the awareness-dimming toilet trout. Obsolute (alternative)-- a rule or policy that is still applied as absolute truth long past the time when the situation that led to its original imposition has passed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word Fun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, that would be the Maharishi Affect? People suffering from invincibla? I don't think so. More likely people going hu in a somewhat high pitched voice after making a point. Somewhat akin to a televangalist saying amen after making a salient point. Or perhaps some rusty eyelids after emerging from meditation. Or saying, it's so beautiful after reflecting upon some aspect of the knowledge. This, my dear, I would call the Maharishi Affect. If you find yourself experiencing any of these symptoms, I suggest you enroll in a curtisdeltablues remedial class.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: Invinbicility--the belief that your butt-bouncing has saved the nation and the world when the stock-market is in turmoil and housing starts, the value of the dollar and other economic indicators swim with the awareness-dimming toilet trout. These are truly excellent. But the above definition could also apply to Inwineability-one result of imbiding too much wine. Obsolute (alternative)-- a rule or policy that is still applied as absolute truth long past the time when the situation that led to its original imposition has passed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
Gee, does Cathrine know you are making her private sex life public? I'm sure she'd just love knowing that she is now part of a public archive that eventually will be part of a Google data base. --- nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... she was having sex with him and going to the ia course or school ?? perhaps not currently enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two years ago. i was in classes with her about three years ago. he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary and finds pretty things to screw ??? this is common knowledge among the people who know her. so what right, but his character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his salary for that building he is gonna give maharishi kinda dumb but does anyone want to talk about these so called leaders were being left with. they talk a different rap than what they live eh To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... she was having sex with him and going to the ia course or school ?? perhaps not currently enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two years ago. i was in classes with her about three years ago. he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary and finds pretty things to screw ??? this is common knowledge among the people who know her. so what right, but his character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his salary for that building he is gonna give maharishi kinda dumb but does anyone want to talk about these so called leaders were being left with. they talk a different rap than what they live eh May he and his companion have abundant pleasure, and comfort, and joy, and happiness, and love, and more pleasure, and sex, and ecstasy, and bliss, and release, and mutual respect, and charity, and kindness, and wealth, and abundance, and optimism, and enthusiasm, and energy, and zest, and community, and wisdom, and courage to withstand the blatant shouts of envy.
[FairfieldLife] was: Message to Maharishi-pandits already chanting MMY's name
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Maharâja Nader Râm's Message to Maharishi 12 January 2008 Your gift of infinite silence, eternal peace, with none other than you in it I embraced, my Lord, with joy and it filled me with bliss. In it You breathe life into Ved. Your thoughts are pure knowledge. In it You leave nothing to be desired. There is no need, no want. You are the soul of all that there is: Atma, Brahm, eternal freedom, totality, unboundedness. Tender softly permeating everything, all encompassing, binding the loose ends of creation, unifying all opposites, resolving all conflicts. You are and give meaning and all the glory to silence, that gift of Guru Dev, that which You taught us to be Guru Dev. With Your grace, my Lord, my silence has been full. Please, today do not wish us to experience its emptiness. I shall remain in it, but, please, do not take away from me the hope to be always able to open my eyes and say: Jai Guru Dev. For other than to You and under your guidance to whom shall I speak? Yes, of course, You say and I know, You will be with me forever and my task will be easy keeping You company in silence. But why, suddenly today, I feel the need to speak and the need to tell You again and again and never loose the chance to be able to tell You again how much I adore you. Yes, I know that we will be together unified and strong with you, for there is nothing in us other than You and I see the day, when I will be fulfilled again, that day which I cannot wait for too long, that day when everyone alive on this planet earth will in every breath in his heart and mind uphold Your silence Your Guru Dev, our Guru Dev. Only on that day, maybe, I will stop missing you. Jai Guru Dev That's funny, MMY never claimed to be any of that!! In fact he constantly diverted his attention from himself to Guru Dev, we don't know who or what MMY was,and he never said! Was he enlightened?, who knows?, nobody! But I'm sure he will be a part of the Holy Tradition now, in spite of it starting with him (TM started with him), oh well, that would be par for the course with the TMorg. The Vedic pandits are already chanting MMY's name. Heard it tonight, several times, on M.O.U.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Message to Maharishi-pandits already chanting MMY's name
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Vedic pandits are already chanting MMY's name. Heard it tonight, several times, on M.O.U. Going on right now at 9:45 pm US central time. I take it that this is unusual?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Word fun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: How about: Invinbicility--the belief that your butt-bouncing has saved the nation and the world when the stock-market is in turmoil and housing starts, the value of the dollar and other economic indicators swim with the awareness-dimming toilet trout. These are truly excellent. But the above definition could also apply to Inwineability-one result of imbiding too much wine. Inwinceable--the state I am in after reading too many puns.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Lovely!
If it does crash, invest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wait until tomorrow because the US markets are closed for the holiday: http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Stock_markets_plunge_worldwide_01212008.html Good things we are all not attached to our money and investments, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's already happened. http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1910,148180-230192,00.html Gee, does Cathrine know you are making her private sex life public? I'm sure she'd just love knowing that she is now part of a public archive that eventually will be part of a Google data base. --- nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... she was having sex with him and going to the ia course or school ?? perhaps not currently enrolled so ok to screw a teacher... it was two years ago. i was in classes with her about three years ago. he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary and finds pretty things to screw ??? this is common knowledge among the people who know her. so what right, but his character is it worth a shit. maybe he saved his salary for that building he is gonna give maharishi kinda dumb but does anyone want to talk about these so called leaders were being left with. they talk a different rap than what they live eh To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
RE: [FairfieldLife] hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nadarrombus Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:16 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know he comes to town to teach a course once evey so often as a requirement, only once a year, to get his six figure salary Before he began getting that salary, he was trying to run a business (Enlightened Audio Design, which manufactured high-end audio equipment). This took up a lot of his time, but he didn’t want to give it up, because he wanted to be financially comfortable. I think this bugged the hell out of MMY. He wanted John to devote all his time to the movement. So he offered him a salary that would satisfy him. Besides, the business wasn’t doing that well anyway. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 8:23 PM
[FairfieldLife] Tuesdays are fun
Tuesdays are fun...what will happen to the stockmarket on this Tuesday? Woohoo...could be a wild ride. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... in her twenties ... not exactly jail bait more like consenting adult, bro she was having sex with him ... so what right, exactly: so what! (as you yourself know, right?) but his character is it worth a shit. and now so is yours, for posting this kind of malicious gossip; you damage the rep of both dr. john and the girl; and i cant imagine why ... oh wait: they have sex, but you didnt; that must really piss you off, she consented to him but not to you. is that it?
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul could soften this crash
Ron Paul could soften this crash, if only it was not the people's destiny to be stupid and vote for more of the same bullshit, either Republican or Democrat. The rest of those candidates are ignorant fucks compared to Ron Paul, watch this video and watch your economy fail due to ignorant politicians with no intelligent policies. http://youtube.com/watch?v=nWyygiyPbdA OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuesdays are fun
When the market crashes, buy [EMAIL PROTECTED] futures. On Wednesday or Thursday when the market rebounds heavily, sell. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuesdays are fun...what will happen to the stockmarket on this Tuesday? Woohoo...could be a wild ride. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Betty Erickson's Self Hypnosis Technique
you have some growing up to do, sir-- answers below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me the reason one would inquire as to the Nature of Mind is that it allows one to see the illusion of self built on self-and- other: the codependent arising of the virtual self. That insight allows our Ethical Know-How to arise as a direct experience. ethics are a belief, not a naturally arising direct experience. and belief is the antithesis of experience. Once one begins see self as largely fragmented, transitory--inescapably so--the radical 'not-doing' of mindfulness fosters a freedom from conditioned states of mind which further fosters increased mindfulness in more and more areas of our life. Eventually we realize there is no self in any of our interactions--an experience which can be quite unnerving at first. who is realizing this? But once one 'gets used to' this more unified, less self-centered perspective and the mind relaxes more and more into awareness, relaxes into awareness? makes no sense. awareness IS; no rleaxation necessary. a natural sense of warmth and inclusiveness begins to appear naturally. bullsh*t. Self interest naturally is replaced with interest in others. did you memorize this? The full realization of our innate groundlessness or empty-nature cannot occur without that sense of warmth. who has brainwashed you into this? someone is guessing at this, and making the assumption that what is true with the contaminated mind is true with a clean mind, only more so. Sort of how to gain liberation, in terms of bondage. real BS. Eventually we understand that the Nature of Mind, of groundlessness, is compassion. So it's really about coming into contact with our own Ethical Know-How--our innate virtue. We had it all along. what a huge load of bullsh*t. stinky. The reason some systems of meditation place an emphasis on ethical behavior isn't because they want us to be good boys and girls, but because it's easier to grasp empty nature, our groundlessness, if we mimic it's natural qualities. oh really? LOL-- again, learn from the lessons of prison, for they will apply when you are free. stinky. The relative Awakened Heart is the basic starting point for realizing the absolute Awakened Heart. what?!!? the relative Awakened Heart--are you f*ckin' kidding me??? Absolute Awakened Heart allows Virtue to arise relatively as well: spontaneous appropriate action beyond naive compassion. someone has sold you a real load, Mr Vaj. you've probably been studying this stuff for years-- I've got a big hint for you- make a big u-turn and run for your life!
