[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Meera, my neighbour

2008-02-22 Thread gyselsvishnu


Hagen,


I think we are on the same wave-length regarding these issues.

A Mario Mantese week-end, which means just sitting in a hall in 
Zurich or Munchen and listening to him, costs about a 100 Euro. 
Lodging and food are not included.

Easily some 2000 people attend, so you can make the account.
Mario says that he donates a lot to Amnesty International and the 
like and I hope he does.
His books are an inspiring read. 
So I wish him and his students the best but it is not my cup of tea.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dirk,
 
 thanks for your well-balanced reply. You are right, their might be 
lucent people in the world, whose presence is emanating something 
pleasant and for some even overwhelming. This I do not want to 
disavow. But the aptness of people to define their spiritual 
progress rather due to repetitive kicks from outside than going 
for hard mental work (in an for sure easy manner - that should not 
be the point !), makes me feel invoiced to tell them: Hey, come out 
of your cushy attitude and be initiative with full responsibility ! 
 
 And if some Mario Mantese indirectly says, it's only fruitful to 
sit in my presence, then he is a really good and successful 
sucker. But in the nights, while counting his immense income of the 
day, on the one hand he presumably will not stop laughing... . But 
on the other hand very deep inside he must be feeling immense 
lonely, subconsciously waiting for the visitation of his 
own master of camouflage ... or may be, if he changed his mind, of 
awakening.
 
 Hagen
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: gyselsvishnu 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:16 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Meera, my neighbour
 
 
 
   I go along with your conclusion that one has te be 
a 'contributor' 
   working with the spiritual (and other) tools that one has, 
rather 
   than a receiver. Shree Maa told me once: 'spirituality is giving 
   more than you take' which is true.
 
   On the other hand, we should be humble and open enough to 
   acknowledge that darshan of a highly evolved being may provide 
some 
   kind of 'positive contamination' of a subtle presence and 
quality of 
   being. I must say that I had this kind of experience with Mother 
   Meera.
 
   Since you belong to the German speaking world, you may be aware 
   of 'Meister' Mario Mantese, a Swiss spiritual teacher who also 
gives 
   darshans. He has a huge following in South Germany, Austria and 
   Switserland. People pay large amounts of money to just be in the 
   energy field of this 'cosmic master'. For me, it was not really 
   worth the money but my wife liked the experience very much.
 
   While Mother Meera encourages her visitors to engage in 
spiritual 
   practises, 'Meister M.' says they are all fruitless.
   Many people just like somebody else to take them to the light.
   I think that many so-called spiritual persons are basically lazy.
 
   It was Patanjali who said that only continuous practise without 
   break could bring any real results... 
 
   Dirk Gysels, Belgium
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz 
   hagen.j.holtz@ wrote:
   
Someone recently announced that Mother Meera would go on tour 
and 
   that people should announce their interest aborningly. Isn't it 
a 
   waste of time ?

I am in the lucky position that Mother Meera is sitting in my 
   neighbourhood, 10 km far away at Balduinstein, State Rheinland-
Pfalz 
   in Germany. I am with my family (my wife and four kids between 9 
and 
   19) at Katzenelnbogen, dealing with organic fertilizer. It took 
my 
   quite some effort to once go there to that castle and have a 
look, 
   what would happen. I am honest enough to say that I did not 
expect 
   much, but Michael Zarte, one of her secretaries, coming to our 
   house, invited us as special customers and so we did not want 
to 
   be so impolite to refuse.

The ambience could not have been much more eldrich: Somehow 
   arcane, after having taken off the shoes, my wife and me got 
lead 
   into a dimmy lighted hall, where many people sat on chairs 
arranged 
   in a rectangle to the stage, as if having been fallen into deep 
   lethargy. We got directed to a special place like in a dark film-
   theatre. We sat down and gazed. A lady in wrapped foulard 
sitting 
   cross-legged, with a face which we could hardly make out from 
the 
   distance, silently welcomed one visitor after the other without 
   saying anything. I thought, we also could have entered a 
crematory 
   or a church, there was not much difference in atmosphere. And 
there 
   was no difference at all, just dead unenlivened silence. I also 
was 
   not able to make out, what people to my right and those to my 
left 
   really wanted or expected, and I guess it was just the same with 
   them and it was exactly that, what linked us together to our 

[FairfieldLife] The times they are a'changing (sp?)?

2008-02-22 Thread cardemaister

The president of France is of Finno-Ugric (ie. non-Indo-European) 
ancestry (Hungarian):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarkozy

The next president of USA shall have typical Islamic
middle name (Hussein)?

The next president of Russia shall be just a little taller
than Napoleon Bonaparte (1,62 metric?)?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak

2008-02-22 Thread Vaj


On Feb 21, 2008, at 9:23 PM, sparaig wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Frank McLaughlin
 frank3373@ wrote:
 
  This post begs two questions: 1) was the TM org in better shape  
when
  Chopra was active in the early 90's? What is different now and  
then?

  2) What is wrong with the current state of the TM org other than
  everything is too expensive (in the US), but that has been the
  case for a long time. -- Frank


 With all due respect, King Tony reacts to being
 told the horrible truth that Maharishi is (wait
 for it) mortal and can get sick like everyone else
 with a pathological level of denial, and the only
 two questions that this begs to you are about
 the state of the TM movement?


With a ll due respect, you assume that Chopra is telling the truth  
about telling this to

Nader in the first place?

 Personally, I'd be more concerned that the future
 of a 2.5 billion dollar organization and the welfare
 or all the people who believe in it has been entrusted
 to a crazy person.



You think Chopra isn't a tad crazy too? I mean, according to HIM,  
MMY is the only person

in his life he's ever met whom he is certain was fully enlightened



OK King Tony...

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread Vaj


On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:

“To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly  
independently,” said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of the  
Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts  
General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. “It’s been  
hypothesized for many years, but never proven.”



Thanks. We won't hold our breaths... 

[FairfieldLife] Re: benefits of hyaluronic acid (HA).

2008-02-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 
 Benefits of Synthovial 7™
 
 Synthovial 7™ is hyaluronic acid.  Hyaluronic acid (HA) is a  
special 
 mucopolysacharide that is the normal lubricant in human joints. 
When 
 present in a joint, even a joint with minimal or no cartilage, it 
can 
 provide a  cushion effect. 
 
 Hyaluronic acid helps to maintain smooth, elastic skin.  HA is used 
 in many cosmetics such as make-up and moisturizing creams.  
 Basically, HA helps to hold water in the skin. 
 
 HA helps control cell migration which protect cells and also 
 activates the white cells.  Since HA is an endogenous substance, it 
 can be used to reduce the need for antibiotics by stimulating the 
 immune system. 
 
 HA helps reduce bacterial infections and has been found to inhibit 
 the growth of a variety of strains of bacteria.  It has also been 
 concluded that HA even reduced the number of chronic bronchitis 
 infections in patients. 
 
 Other benefits may include: 
 
 Increased Mobility 
 
 Softer Skin 
 
 Faster Wound Healing 
 
 Fibromyalgia Relief 
 
 Retinal Lubrication 
 
 Clearer Vision 
 
 Dry Skin Relief 
 
 Dietary Benefits 
 
 Improved Sleep 
 
 Stabilized Emotions 
 
 Reduced Fine Lines 
 
 Improved Vitality 
 
 Hair Growth 
 
 Hair Color Restoration 
 
 Tissue Reconstruction 
 
 Improved Bone Density 
 
 Increased Mental Alertness 
 
 Improved Muscle Strength 
 
 Increased Sexual Potency 
 
 Strengthening of Internal Organs

Interesting. This stuff is a prescription or natural ?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: was: questions for Deepak publically. now: Deepak, give Rick a call, please

2008-02-22 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:21 PM, new.morning wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And all the heavens opened and blazed with thunder such as  
seemed  shoutings of all the sons of God.


Sal


Hey Sal, nice quote. Is it biblical? Or did you simply dive into  
your well of lyrical genius (with songs) and compose it on the spot?


I cognized it, new.  It's nothing, really, I do it all the time!

Alfred Tennyson Tennyson (1809–1892)
Idylls of the King: The holy Grail. Line 507

(Thanks for the kind words anyway.)

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Out TMO experience summed up in one New Yorker cartoon

2008-02-22 Thread shempmcgurk
http://tinyurl.com/3anaeb





[FairfieldLife] Had enough - now will lurk

2008-02-22 Thread boyboy_8
Goodbye and all the best.

Fred



[FairfieldLife] Re: Out TMO experience summed up in one New Yorker cartoon

2008-02-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/3anaeb

The FFL experience summed up in one Internet cartoon:

http://xkcd.com/386/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Out TMO experience summed up in one New Yorker cartoon

2008-02-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/3anaeb
 
 The FFL experience summed up in one Internet cartoon:
 
 http://xkcd.com/386/

I thought Turq's head was smaller but funny nonetheless :-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
 
  To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly  
  independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of the  
  Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts  
  General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been  
  hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
 
 
 Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...

especially those of us with dualistic views.



[FairfieldLife] December at Yase --Gery Snyder

2008-02-22 Thread new . morning
Gary nailed some of us too.

(Marek, were you in Davis when he was teaching there?)


December at Yase

You said, that October,
In the tall dry grass by the orchard
When you chose to be free,
Again someday, maybe ten years.

After college I saw you
One time. You were strange.
And I was obsessed with a plan.

Now ten years and more have
Gone by: I've always known
where you were--
I might have gone to you
Hoping to win your love back.
You still are single.

I didn't.
I thought I must make it alone. I
Have done that.

Only in dream, like this dawn,
Does the grave, awed intensity
Of our young love
Return to my mind, to my flesh.

We had what the others
All crave and seek for;
We left it behind at nineteen.

I feel ancient, as though I had
Lived many lives.
And may never now know
If I am a fool
Or have done what my
karma demands.

Gary Snyder




[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak

2008-02-22 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Feb 21, 2008, at 9:23 PM, sparaig wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Frank McLaughlin
   frank3373@ wrote:
   
This post begs two questions: 1) was the TM org in better shape
  when
Chopra was active in the early 90's? What is different now and
  then?
2) What is wrong with the current state of the TM org other than
everything is too expensive (in the US), but that has been the
case for a long time. -- Frank
  
  
   With all due respect, King Tony reacts to being
   told the horrible truth that Maharishi is (wait
   for it) mortal and can get sick like everyone else
   with a pathological level of denial, and the only
   two questions that this begs to you are about
   the state of the TM movement?
  
 
  With a ll due respect, you assume that Chopra is telling the truth
  about telling this to
  Nader in the first place?
 
   Personally, I'd be more concerned that the future
   of a 2.5 billion dollar organization and the welfare
   or all the people who believe in it has been entrusted
   to a crazy person.
  
  
 
  You think Chopra isn't a tad crazy too? I mean, according to HIM,
  MMY is the only person
  in his life he's ever met whom he is certain was fully
enlightened


 OK King Tony...


Maharishi's hiding the truth about his illness...
King Tony's denial of that truth...
Nabulosus's indifference to that truth

goes a long way in explaining the irrelevance of the TMO on the world
stage.

JohnY





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  
  On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
  
   To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly  
   independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of the  
   Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts  
   General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been  
   hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
  
  
  Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
 
 especially those of us with dualistic views.


sandiego108 [aka Jim Flanegan] apparently supports 'bait and switch'
world peace. The kind he foresees is when everyone turns into
obnoxious zombie non-persons like him who actually do zilch about
anything in the real world. Wars, poverty, human suffering of all
manner keep happening but it no longer matters to freaks like him who
live in an alternate invincible reality of imaginary invincible
kingdoms in imaginary invincible countries.









[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak

2008-02-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Frank McLaughlin
 frank3373@ wrote:
 
  This post begs two questions: 1) was the TM org in better shape when 
  Chopra was active in the early 90's? What is different now and then? 
  2) What is wrong with the current state of the TM org other than 
  everything is too expensive (in the US), but that has been the 
  case for a long time. -- Frank
 
 
 With all due respect, King Tony reacts to being 
 told the horrible truth that Maharishi is (wait 
 for it) mortal and can get sick like everyone else
 with a pathological level of denial, and the only 
 two questions that this begs to you are about
 the state of the TM movement?
 
 Personally, I'd be more concerned that the future
 of a 2.5 billion dollar organization and the welfare
 or all the people who believe in it has been entrusted
 to a crazy person.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, william108wm 
  william108wm@ wrote:
  
   I spoke with Deepak Chopra this morning after a radio 
   interview he did in DC. As we walked to his car, he 
   spoke about his sadness about the current state of the 
   TM org. I mentioned that I felt that his recent essays
   after Maharishi's passing were very valuable for people 
   to hear and that it has stimulated alot of emails on 
   this YahooGroup discussion board. He said that he just 
   had to do it to clear the air about his relationship 
   with the TM org over the years.
   
   He said that when Maharishi first came to Holland Deepak 
   got Tony Nadar's attention and said Let's take a walk.
   During that walk he told Tony about all the details of 
   Maharishi's near death illnesses and his time in England. 
   Deepak said that upon hearing this, Tony was in shock 
   and said to him I don't believe a word of this. 
   
   I asked Deepak if I may share his conversation with this 
   group. He said Absolutely
   
   John

Don't worry! I'll bet King Tony doesn't sign the checks :) 

JohnY



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
  
   
   On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
   
To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied 
truly  
independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus 
of the  
Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at 
Massachusetts  
General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been  
hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
   
   
   Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
  
  especially those of us with dualistic views.
 
 
 sandiego108 [aka Jim Flanegan] apparently supports 'bait and 
switch'
 world peace. The kind he foresees is when everyone turns into
 obnoxious zombie non-persons like him who actually do zilch about
 anything in the real world. Wars, poverty, human suffering of all
 manner keep happening but it no longer matters to freaks like him 
who
 live in an alternate invincible reality of imaginary invincible
 kingdoms in imaginary invincible countries.

i know-- if he'd *only* change, *i'd* be a lot happier and the world 
would be a *much* better place for all of us. bastard.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Out TMO experience summed up in one New Yorker cartoon

2008-02-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   http://tinyurl.com/3anaeb
  
  The FFL experience summed up in one Internet cartoon:
  
  http://xkcd.com/386/
 
 I thought Turq's head was smaller but funny nonetheless :-)

ba-da-bing!



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
   

On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:

 To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied 
 truly  
 independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus 
 of the  
 Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at 
 Massachusetts  
 General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been  
 hypothesized for many years, but never proven.


Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
   
   especially those of us with dualistic views.
  
  
  sandiego108 [aka Jim Flanegan] apparently supports 'bait and 
 switch'
  world peace. The kind he foresees is when everyone turns into
  obnoxious zombie non-persons like him who actually do zilch about
  anything in the real world. Wars, poverty, human suffering of all
  manner keep happening but it no longer matters to freaks like him 
 who
  live in an alternate invincible reality of imaginary invincible
  kingdoms in imaginary invincible countries.
 
 i know-- if he'd *only* change, *i'd* be a lot happier and the world 
 would be a *much* better place for all of us. bastard.


Typical bullshit 'avoid-the-issue' non-answer from our local
self-proclaimed 'enlightened' guy.






[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 
sandiego108@
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ 
wrote:

 
 On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
 
  To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied 
  truly  
  independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director 
emeritus 
  of the  
  Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at 
  Massachusetts  
  General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's 
been  
  hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
 
 
 Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...

especially those of us with dualistic views.
   
   
   sandiego108 [aka Jim Flanegan] apparently supports 'bait and 
  switch'
   world peace. The kind he foresees is when everyone turns into
   obnoxious zombie non-persons like him who actually do zilch 
about
   anything in the real world. Wars, poverty, human suffering of 
all
   manner keep happening but it no longer matters to freaks like 
him 
  who
   live in an alternate invincible reality of imaginary invincible
   kingdoms in imaginary invincible countries.
  
  i know-- if he'd *only* change, *i'd* be a lot happier and the 
world 
  would be a *much* better place for all of us. bastard.
 
 
 Typical bullshit 'avoid-the-issue' non-answer from our local
 self-proclaimed 'enlightened' guy.

John, I can appreciate that you like a tidy universe where everyone 
makes the same assumptions as you do, and those that don't are 
wrong. But that is a tad too fundamentalist for my liking, and my 
experience, so I won't be spending my time here engaging you in a 
meaningless argument about who is right and who is wrong in this 
situation. 

I am perfectly OK with you dreaming whatever dream you wish to, and 
I will continue to do the same. If you continue to insist that I 
conform to your assumptions, however rational and true they seem for 
you, then I would ask that you please go fuck yourself. I'm done. 
Thanks.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 
 sandiego108@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
  
   To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied 
   truly  
   independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director 
 emeritus 
   of the  
   Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at 
   Massachusetts  
   General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's 
 been  
   hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
  
  
  Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
 
 especially those of us with dualistic views.


sandiego108 [aka Jim Flanegan] apparently supports 'bait and 
   switch'
world peace. The kind he foresees is when everyone turns into
obnoxious zombie non-persons like him who actually do zilch 
 about
anything in the real world. Wars, poverty, human suffering of 
 all
manner keep happening but it no longer matters to freaks like 
 him 
   who
live in an alternate invincible reality of imaginary invincible
kingdoms in imaginary invincible countries.
   
   i know-- if he'd *only* change, *i'd* be a lot happier and the 
 world 
   would be a *much* better place for all of us. bastard.
  
  
  Typical bullshit 'avoid-the-issue' non-answer from our local
  self-proclaimed 'enlightened' guy.
 
 John, I can appreciate that you like a tidy universe where everyone 
 makes the same assumptions as you do, and those that don't are 
 wrong. But that is a tad too fundamentalist for my liking, and my 
 experience, so I won't be spending my time here engaging you in a 
 meaningless argument about who is right and who is wrong in this 
 situation. 
 
 I am perfectly OK with you dreaming whatever dream you wish to, and 
 I will continue to do the same. If you continue to insist that I 
 conform to your assumptions, however rational and true they seem for 
 you, then I would ask that you please go fuck yourself. I'm done. 
 Thanks.


The little phony 'enlightened' guy can't handle obvious factual
objective reality and common sense so he runs for the hills.







[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
 
  �To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly  
  independently,� said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of the  
  Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts  
  General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. �It�s been  
  hypothesized for many years, but never proven.�
 
 
 Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...


By all accounts, Benson never learned TM, so if he told the reporter he 
practices it, he was 
making the assumption that breath-counting is the same as TM. Hardly a reliable 
source 
of info, from the start.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
  
   To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly  
   independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of 
   the  
   Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts  
   General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been  
   hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
  
  
  Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
 
 
 By all accounts, Benson never learned TM, so if he told the 
 reporter he practices it, he was making the assumption that 
 breath-counting is the same as TM. Hardly a reliable source 
 of info, from the start.


Lawson, you did it AGAIN.

There are *several* ways of seeing this quote,
only one of which you pursued -- the one that
you could use to portray Herbert Benson as a
LIAR, and thus as unreliable.

1) The reporter could have gotten it wrong.
2) Benson could have started TM in the days
since you last heard of him.
3) Benson *qualified* his statement by saying
To the best of my knowledge...

AND, the real bottom line is that you consider
yourself somewhat up on the research on TM.
If you think that Benson was incorrect in the
best of his knowledge, all you had to do was
post the citations of the *independent* (that
is, studies in which none of the researchers 
were TMers) research that has been done on the ME.

Right?

You took none of these options, all of which
were available to you. Instead, AGAIN, you went
for the cheap shot of implying that Benson lied
to the reporter, in an attempt to portray him
as unreliable.

Don't you SEE what you do here, Lawson? It's 
actually a kind of sickness on your part. You
seemingly have to react to anyone who suggests
a different way of seeing things than the way
you see them as if they have nefarious motives,
or as if they are lying.

I'm using my last post of the week talking about
this because I think it's possible that you 
really DON'T see your pattern here, and why
your statements don't have the impact you seem
to think they will have when you fire them off.
They're mean-spirited, Lawson. 

You COULD have just posted the citations of the
truly independent research on the ME, if it exists.
My suspicion is that it DOESN'T exist, *exactly*
as Dr. Benson suggests, and so that avenue wasn't
open to you. Frustrated by this, you took the
path of the cheap shot and implied YET AGAIN that
a person who is less supportive of the TM claims
than you want them to be is a LIAR, and thus
unreliable.

By now we're all hip to this harp on a nitpick to
distract people from what is really being said
technique. We've seen it FAR too often, almost always
employed by the pro-TMers. In recent days you have
used it to demonize Chopra, and now you're using it
to demonize Herbert Benson. The nitpicks themselves
don't really matter IMO; it's the *pattern* that's
important. And that pattern is -- exactly as I said
earlier -- that when you encounter someone who 
believes something different about TM, Maharishi,
or the TMO than you do, your first knee-jerk impulse
is to prove that person a liar, and/or unreliable.

You're better than that, IMO. By continuing to do this,
the only person you are proving unreliable is yourself.





[FairfieldLife] Re: benefits of hyaluronic acid (HA).

2008-02-22 Thread yifuxero
---Thanks, just received my shipment of 2 vials of 100% pure HA 
yesterday, for an Arizona retailer. It's non-prescription.
Various products are on the market with counterclaims on the efficacy 
of high vs low molecular weights.  The Synthovial Seven literature 
has online reports on the superiority of high molecular weights. To 
quote, Journal of Applied Nutrition, 2004 (whole study at 
http://www.hyalogic.com

Consumers and health care professionals need to be aware of the 
different types of HA and their very large differences in 
properties.  One source, hydrolyzed chicken sternal cartilage, is 
clearly unlike native HA, does not match the biological properties of 
native HA, and consequently should not be represented as HA to 
consumers on product labels.
  The online report gives detailed results on the products with 
various molecular weights (measured in Daltons); with HA being the 
highest.
 Do a quick google search to get the lowest price.

Hyaluronic Acid (HA) is found throught the human body and makes up 
the synovial flued in the joints. (also found in the vitreous humor 
of the eyes, gums, hair,  skin).  Has numerous important biologic 
properties; and could be one of the ultimate anti-aging 
substances.  


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
   
  
  Benefits of Synthovial 7™
  
  Synthovial 7™ is hyaluronic acid.  Hyaluronic acid (HA) is a  
 special 
  mucopolysacharide that is the normal lubricant in human joints. 
 When 
  present in a joint, even a joint with minimal or no cartilage, it 
 can 
  provide a  cushion effect. 
  
  Hyaluronic acid helps to maintain smooth, elastic skin.  HA is 
used 
  in many cosmetics such as make-up and moisturizing creams.  
  Basically, HA helps to hold water in the skin. 
  
  HA helps control cell migration which protect cells and also 
  activates the white cells.  Since HA is an endogenous substance, 
it 
  can be used to reduce the need for antibiotics by stimulating the 
  immune system. 
  
  HA helps reduce bacterial infections and has been found to 
inhibit 
  the growth of a variety of strains of bacteria.  It has also been 
  concluded that HA even reduced the number of chronic bronchitis 
  infections in patients. 
  
  Other benefits may include: 
  
  Increased Mobility 
  
  Softer Skin 
  
  Faster Wound Healing 
  
  Fibromyalgia Relief 
  
  Retinal Lubrication 
  
  Clearer Vision 
  
  Dry Skin Relief 
  
  Dietary Benefits 
  
  Improved Sleep 
  
  Stabilized Emotions 
  
  Reduced Fine Lines 
  
  Improved Vitality 
  
  Hair Growth 
  
  Hair Color Restoration 
  
  Tissue Reconstruction 
  
  Improved Bone Density 
  
  Increased Mental Alertness 
  
  Improved Muscle Strength 
  
  Increased Sexual Potency 
  
  Strengthening of Internal Organs
 
 Interesting. This stuff is a prescription or natural ?





[FairfieldLife] America's last Black President

2008-02-22 Thread shempmcgurk
http://tinyurl.com/232auc





[FairfieldLife] Re: December at Yase --Gery Snyder

2008-02-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Yeah, New, I was and had friends who studied with him but for one 
reason or another I never heard him read.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Gary nailed some of us too.
 
 (Marek, were you in Davis when he was teaching there?)
 
 
 December at Yase
 
 You said, that October,
 In the tall dry grass by the orchard
 When you chose to be free,
 Again someday, maybe ten years.
 
 After college I saw you
 One time. You were strange.
 And I was obsessed with a plan.
 
 Now ten years and more have
 Gone by: I've always known
 where you were--
 I might have gone to you
 Hoping to win your love back.
 You still are single.
 
 I didn't.
 I thought I must make it alone. I
 Have done that.
 
 Only in dream, like this dawn,
 Does the grave, awed intensity
 Of our young love
 Return to my mind, to my flesh.
 
 We had what the others
 All crave and seek for;
 We left it behind at nineteen.
 
 I feel ancient, as though I had
 Lived many lives.
 And may never now know
 If I am a fool
 Or have done what my
 karma demands.
 
 Gary Snyder





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 'Sites for `Maharishi Effect' (Welcome to Parma) Spread Across U.S.
  
   David Ahntholtz for The New York Times
   Thomas Murach is an architectural expert with the Global Country
of World Peace, which is trying to build peace palaces in Parma, Ohio,
and elsewhere. The palaces, all in the same style, would be centers
for learning Transcendental Meditation. 

Putting the M.E. aside, what do you think of the architecture itself?
 Do you think these vastu homes are appealing compared to modern
custom made homes these days? Let's say a comparable custom made home
in the mid west for $1 mil. 



[FairfieldLife] Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread suziezuzie
Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  
  On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
  
   �To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly  
   independently,� said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of the  
   Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts  
   General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. �It�s been  
   hypothesized for many years, but never proven.�
  
  
  Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
 
 
 By all accounts, 

? I think he was. In 1970/71 he visited our TTC. I think he was
meditating. This was before his breath technique. When he was doing
research on TM. (M got impatient with HB's insistence on scientific
protocals. Alright already, we don't need all that to show that TM
does EVERYTHING! )


Benson never learned TM, so if he told the reporter he practices it,
he was 
 making the assumption that breath-counting is the same as TM. Hardly
a reliable source 
 of info, from the start.
 
 
 Lawson





[FairfieldLife] Chopra / Mahapatra

2008-02-22 Thread Rick Archer
From a friend.

 

XXX was just here.  We both agreed that Dr. Mahapatra is probably the Dr
GM referred to in the email disputing what Chopra said about MMY in London,
etc.  He fits the description exactly.  He was MMY's personal physician (or
that's how he describes himself) and was the manager of the 8000 boy pundits
and other things mentioned.  We both agree that when he told us about
Maharishi's heart attack and treatment in London, that he didn't seem to
have all the details, he just knew it happened.  Nor did it seem that he was
there.  He has lately been seeming to elevate himself by talking a lot about
his time with Maharishi, but not disclosing that he was kicked out by
Maharishi, nor revealing his long list of grievances with Maharishi and
stories about Maharishi that he spoke about 2-3 years ago.  Knowing how
Maharishi and everyone around him kept everything so very secret at all
times, (I know this from first hand experience in Switzerland in the 70's)
it is most likely he just didn't know the true story.  He is not an
impressive person from an intellectual standpoint.  Our sentiment is that
Chopra is a far more reliable source.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread sallysunshine01
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita?

The Idiot's Guide To the Guru Gita--Everything You Always Wanted to
Know About Everything

http://www.idiotsguidetothegurugita.com



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  
  On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
  
   To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied truly  
   independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus of 
the  
   Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at Massachusetts  
   General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been  
   hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
  
  
  Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
 
 especially those of us with dualistic views.

This place FFL; how it attracted personalities like Jim is one thing, 
that he choose to stay here for the time being is a mystery, :-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread Frank McLaughlin
I don't have a dog in this fight (A guy named Lawson versus Mr. 
Flame thrower), BUT as of 2001 Benson had not learned TM and 
indicted tacitly he had no intention of learning since he considers 
his technique the equivalent. He still provides seminars in which he 
teaches his technique. 

I base this on work my ex-business partner did on his website, and 
his attendance at his seminar and one-on-one conversations that they 
had about TM. A reasonable person speaking with Benson would come 
away understanding that Benson does not plan to ever practice TM. He 
has his own MA-based institute and no rocket science is required to 
read that site and understand that this guy doesn't do TM or know 
much about it.  

Frank


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
  
   On Feb 22, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Robert wrote:
   
To the best of my knowledge, it has never been studied 
truly  
independently, said Dr. Herbert Benson, director emeritus 
of 
the  
Benson-Henry Institute for Mind Body Medicine at 
Massachusetts  
General Hospital, and a TM practitioner himself. It's been  
hypothesized for many years, but never proven.
   
   
   Thanks. We won't hold our breaths...
  
  
  By all accounts, Benson never learned TM, so if he told the 
  reporter he practices it, he was making the assumption that 
  breath-counting is the same as TM. Hardly a reliable source 
  of info, from the start.
 
 
 Lawson, you did it AGAIN.
 
 There are *several* ways of seeing this quote,
 only one of which you pursued -- the one that
 you could use to portray Herbert Benson as a
 LIAR, and thus as unreliable.
 
 1) The reporter could have gotten it wrong.
 2) Benson could have started TM in the days
 since you last heard of him.
 3) Benson *qualified* his statement by saying
 To the best of my knowledge...
 
 AND, the real bottom line is that you consider
 yourself somewhat up on the research on TM.
 If you think that Benson was incorrect in the
 best of his knowledge, all you had to do was
 post the citations of the *independent* (that
 is, studies in which none of the researchers 
 were TMers) research that has been done on the ME.
 
 Right?
 
 You took none of these options, all of which
 were available to you. Instead, AGAIN, you went
 for the cheap shot of implying that Benson lied
 to the reporter, in an attempt to portray him
 as unreliable.
 
 Don't you SEE what you do here, Lawson? It's 
 actually a kind of sickness on your part. You
 seemingly have to react to anyone who suggests
 a different way of seeing things than the way
 you see them as if they have nefarious motives,
 or as if they are lying.
 
 I'm using my last post of the week talking about
 this because I think it's possible that you 
 really DON'T see your pattern here, and why
 your statements don't have the impact you seem
 to think they will have when you fire them off.
 They're mean-spirited, Lawson. 
 
 You COULD have just posted the citations of the
 truly independent research on the ME, if it exists.
 My suspicion is that it DOESN'T exist, *exactly*
 as Dr. Benson suggests, and so that avenue wasn't
 open to you. Frustrated by this, you took the
 path of the cheap shot and implied YET AGAIN that
 a person who is less supportive of the TM claims
 than you want them to be is a LIAR, and thus
 unreliable.
 
 By now we're all hip to this harp on a nitpick to
 distract people from what is really being said
 technique. We've seen it FAR too often, almost always
 employed by the pro-TMers. In recent days you have
 used it to demonize Chopra, and now you're using it
 to demonize Herbert Benson. The nitpicks themselves
 don't really matter IMO; it's the *pattern* that's
 important. And that pattern is -- exactly as I said
 earlier -- that when you encounter someone who 
 believes something different about TM, Maharishi,
 or the TMO than you do, your first knee-jerk impulse
 is to prove that person a liar, and/or unreliable.
 
 You're better than that, IMO. By continuing to do this,
 the only person you are proving unreliable is yourself.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread tertonzeno
---from http://www.syda.org
in S. Fallsburg, NY; the HQ of SYDA.
I just sent away this morning for a video  of Swami Muktananda chanting 
the Guru Gita, as well as an audio CD.
I have the small booklet in front of me.  Comes in a book with larger 
pages also.Comes in a larger book size also.
Transliteration starts out:

Om. Lord Sadasiva is the seer of the mantras of this hymn, Shri Guru 
Gita

Its verse patterns are diverse.  The Guru, the Supreme Self, is its 
deity.

Ham is its seed leter, sah its power, and drom its nail.  The purpose 
of repeating it is to win the Guru's grace.

The Guru, who dwells in the lotus surrounded by the divine petals ham 
and sahy, which reside in all beings and are the cause of the world, 
manifested the world in his own way and of his own free will. Meditate 
on the Guru, who revealt That, who is the expressionof teh shambhava 
state (Shivahood), who illumines like the flame of a lamp, who is 
eternal and all-pervasie, and who is a visible form of all letters.

I repeat the Guru Gita to realize the four goals of life (dharma, 
righteousness; artha, wealth; kama, pleasure; moksha, libration).

Suta said: On the beautiful summit of Mount Kailasa, Parvati, having 
bowed with reverence to Lord Shiva, who is the master of uniting one 
with devotion, asked:

The Goddess said: Om. Salutations, O God, O lord of gods, O higher 
than the highest, O teacher of the universe, O benevolent one, O great 
God initiate me into the nowledge of the Guru.

O Lord, by which path can an embodied Soul become one with Brahman 
(absolute reality)? Have compassion on me, O Lord! I bow to your feet.

[then, the rest of the Guru Gita is Shiva's reply]...which amounts to 
devotion to the Guru and repeating the Guru Gita. 

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak

2008-02-22 Thread Frank McLaughlin
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Frank McLaughlin
   frank3373@ wrote:
This post begs two questions: 1) was the TM org in better shape when
Chopra was active in the early 90's? What is different now and then?
2) What is wrong with the current state of the TM org other than
everything is too expensive (in the US), but that has been the
case for a long time. -- Frank
  
  
   With all due respect, King Tony reacts to being
   told the horrible truth that Maharishi is (wait
   for it) mortal and can get sick like everyone else
   with a pathological level of denial, and the only
   two questions that this begs to you are about
   the state of the TM movement?

With all due respect, I think you are having trouble reading 
English. I didn't say these two questions were the only two 
questions that this 'begs. I sought clarification on two questions 
of interest to *me*. The implication of the rest of the post is 
evident, and doesn't need elaboration.  

Someone saying that they don't believe a word Deepak says does not 
to me indicate a pathological level of denial, but in any event I 
do not care what Tony Nadar thinks about Maharishi. Since he cared 
for Maharishi daily during the last year of Maharishi's life when 
clearly Maharishi was ill, I would assume Nadar understood 
Maharishi's mortality. But who cares? 



[FairfieldLife] UU Fellowship in Fairfield

2008-02-22 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
I just saw the note for the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship meeting this 
Saturday upstairs at Revelations from 6-8.  This is exactly what Fairfield 
needs:  freethinking townies and ruu's meeting face-to-face (and with nametags 
with your real name on them!)  engaging in highflying rhetorical combat over 
the spiritual/material landscape of the Lebenswelt this forum is named for.  
UU's demand (1) organizational transparency, (2) democratic process, (3) 
freedom of belief (also we don't much like patriarchy).  Sounds like a good 
place to start a real cultural/organizational force for good.
   
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[FairfieldLife] Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread Angela Mailander
A good friend, noting someone's request for Guru Gita,
sends me the following and asks me to post it here:

Sri Ganapati Sachchidananda Swamiji sings Guru Gita
most beautifully on a cd which also contains Adi
Shankaracharya's Guru Ashtakam.
I have shared this with a number of people who are
literally blown away at the production and clarity.

This is available through www.dycusa.org
Click on bookstallcd's a scroll through as their
search engine doesn't work so well.
Also the book is available with the words and Sri
Swamiji's commentary.
click on books then scroll through to Sree Guru
Gita.

They are only $10 each.

The album is available through iTunes music store as
well as over 50 other cd's composed by Him.

All Love,

Sri Guru Datta

Hanuman


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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'NYT- Maharishi Effect Spreads Across U.S.'

2008-02-22 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
  'Sites for `Maharishi Effect' (Welcome to Parma) Spread Across U.S.
   
David Ahntholtz for The New York Times
Thomas Murach is an architectural expert with the Global Country
 of World Peace, which is trying to build peace palaces in Parma, Ohio,
 and elsewhere. The palaces, all in the same style, would be centers
 for learning Transcendental Meditation. 
 

 Putting the M.E. aside, what do you think of the architecture itself?
  Do you think these vastu homes are appealing compared to modern
 custom made homes these days? Let's say a comparable custom made home
 in the mid west for $1 mil.


***

Vastu homes can be built in many architectural styles, as long as they 
meet the SV guidelines -- I'm sure you'll see something other than the 
current limited repertoire  of SV home styles in Vedic City as MSV 
becomes more popular. http://www.vastuhomes.com/faq.asp#question4



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread deepaconn


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita?

Here's a link to the Siddha Yoga Bookstore...lots of possibilities for
Guru Gitas here:

http://siddhayogabookstore.org/search.aspx?find=guru+gita
http://siddhayogabookstore.org/search.aspx?find=guru+gita

Cath



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread Bhairitu
I bought that years ago on LP (that about tells you how long ago) and it 
is a nice rendition and I believe the text that came with it gave both 
the transliteration and the translation.

tertonzeno wrote:
 ---from http://www.syda.org
 in S. Fallsburg, NY; the HQ of SYDA.
 I just sent away this morning for a video  of Swami Muktananda chanting 
 the Guru Gita, as well as an audio CD.
 I have the small booklet in front of me.  Comes in a book with larger 
 pages also.Comes in a larger book size also.
 Transliteration starts out:

 Om. Lord Sadasiva is the seer of the mantras of this hymn, Shri Guru 
 Gita

 Its verse patterns are diverse.  The Guru, the Supreme Self, is its 
 deity.

 Ham is its seed leter, sah its power, and drom its nail.  The purpose 
 of repeating it is to win the Guru's grace.

 The Guru, who dwells in the lotus surrounded by the divine petals ham 
 and sahy, which reside in all beings and are the cause of the world, 
 manifested the world in his own way and of his own free will. Meditate 
 on the Guru, who revealt That, who is the expressionof teh shambhava 
 state (Shivahood), who illumines like the flame of a lamp, who is 
 eternal and all-pervasie, and who is a visible form of all letters.

 I repeat the Guru Gita to realize the four goals of life (dharma, 
 righteousness; artha, wealth; kama, pleasure; moksha, libration).

 Suta said: On the beautiful summit of Mount Kailasa, Parvati, having 
 bowed with reverence to Lord Shiva, who is the master of uniting one 
 with devotion, asked:

 The Goddess said: Om. Salutations, O God, O lord of gods, O higher 
 than the highest, O teacher of the universe, O benevolent one, O great 
 God initiate me into the nowledge of the Guru.

 O Lord, by which path can an embodied Soul become one with Brahman 
 (absolute reality)? Have compassion on me, O Lord! I bow to your feet.

 [then, the rest of the Guru Gita is Shiva's reply]...which amounts to 
 devotion to the Guru and repeating the Guru Gita. 

  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita?

 



   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bought that years ago on LP (that about tells you how long ago)
and it 
 is a nice rendition and I believe the text that came with it gave both 
 the transliteration and the translation.


Here's a beautiful 8 min video clip of Shri Guru Gita sung by Kumuda
(Sharon Janis). 

Kumuda became very familiar with the syllables and sentiments of this
chanting prayer during her decade of monastic life in the Siddha Yoga
ashram of Baba Muktananda and Gurumayi Chidvilasananda. Early every
morning, the ashram residents and guests chanted this text as the main
ingredient in a daily, hour-and-a-half devotional chanting session.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDmCl2sL4m8feature=related



[FairfieldLife] 'Cyndy McCain Reveals: Dr. Strangelove...'

2008-02-22 Thread Robert
Since Cyndy speaks so, infrequently, 
  I hang on every word she says...
  For example, she says; I am always a nationalist!
  What a good nazi she is!
  Secondly she intoduced her husband as: The Candidate...
  Now, who introduces thier husband as the candidate...
  It seemed strange to me, a couple of weeks ago, but not now...
  She, like many other wives, has been cheated and lied to.
  More importantly though, it feels like Dr, Stangelove!
  Uh, oh
   
  Robert Gimbel   Seattle, WA   2008

   
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[FairfieldLife] 'In Dallas: Another Innocent Serving His County, dies...'

2008-02-22 Thread Robert
It's really the end of an era, folks
   
  R.gimbel   seattle, wa.  2008

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: UU Fellowship in Fairfield

2008-02-22 Thread Patrick Gillam
Lebenswelt: What a cool word! Thanks for using it perfectly! Good
luck with the church.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I just saw the note for the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship
meeting this Saturday upstairs at Revelations from 6-8.  This is
exactly what Fairfield needs:  freethinking townies and ruu's meeting
face-to-face (and with nametags with your real name on them!) 
engaging in highflying rhetorical combat over the spiritual/material
landscape of the Lebenswelt this forum is named for.  UU's demand (1)
organizational transparency, (2) democratic process, (3) freedom of
belief (also we don't much like patriarchy).  Sounds like a good place
to start a real cultural/organizational force for good.





[FairfieldLife] �Baghdad Blitzkrieg led to Republican Collapse�

2008-02-22 Thread Robert
The Bush- Blitzkrieg -(shock  awe)- on Baghdad, 
   
  Has left the Republican Party in shambles…
   
  One weak candidate, remains standing-
Senator John McCain…(R. AZ)
  And up until the NYT’s story, yesterday…
  He’s the man, Conservatives loved to hate.
  And, considered him, a traitor to their cause.
  Now those same hate/war mongers- 
  Set their sites on a more worthy enemy:
   'The Liberal Press'.
  Thankfully for them, they now,
  Have an entity to hate more than their own candidate.
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: ‘Baghdad Blitzkrieg led to Republican Collapse’

2008-02-22 Thread matrixmonitor
--LONDON (AFP) - Hollywood actor Will Smith won a public apology and 
damages in London's High Court Friday over a false allegation that he 
had described the former Nazi leader Adolf Hitler as a good person. 

His lawyer Rachel Atkins told judge David Eady the deeply 
distressing libellous allegation by World Entertainment News Network 
Limited (WENN) had caused her client acute embarrassment.

The claim arose after London-based WENN, which provides entertainment 
news and photographs around the world, published an article on 
December 23 last year entitled Smith: Hitler Was A Good Person, the 
court was told.

Atkins said the article wholly misrepresents an interview her 
client gave to a Scottish newspaper and in fact he considered Hitler 
to be a vile and heinous man.

The allegation that he could think otherwise is deeply distressing 
to the claimant and has caused him acute embarrassment, she said.




- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Bush- Blitzkrieg -(shock  awe)- on Baghdad, 

   Has left the Republican Party in shambles…

   One weak candidate, remains standing-
 Senator John McCain…(R. AZ)
   And up until the NYT's story, yesterday…
   He's the man, Conservatives loved to hate.
   And, considered him, a traitor to their cause.
   Now those same hate/war mongers- 
   Set their sites on a more worthy enemy:
'The Liberal Press'.
   Thankfully for them, they now,
   Have an entity to hate more than their own candidate.


 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: ‘Baghdad Blitzkrieg led to Republican Collapse’

2008-02-22 Thread matrixmonitor
--Thanks. I found a pic of Rory's past incarnation:

http://www.thirdreich.net/Bormann_Bio.html



- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Bush- Blitzkrieg -(shock  awe)- on Baghdad, 

   Has left the Republican Party in shambles…

   One weak candidate, remains standing-
 Senator John McCain…(R. AZ)
   And up until the NYT's story, yesterday…
   He's the man, Conservatives loved to hate.
   And, considered him, a traitor to their cause.
   Now those same hate/war mongers- 
   Set their sites on a more worthy enemy:
'The Liberal Press'.
   Thankfully for them, they now,
   Have an entity to hate more than their own candidate.


 

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[FairfieldLife] Cancer-Inhibitory effects of Pot

2008-02-22 Thread yifuxero
from Life-enhancement.org

Bad News for the DEA: More Evidence for the Cancer-Inhibitory Effects 
of Cannabinoids 

Matrix metalloproteinases are gelatinases that are importantly 
involved in the invasion of cancer cells. One of the important 
natural regulators of matrix metalloproteinases (MMPs) is TIMP, 
tissue inhibitors of MMPs. Researchers treated human cervical cancer 
(HeLa) cells with cannabinoids, an analog of the endogenous 
cannabinoid anandamide, as well as with Ä9-tetrahydrocannabinol 
(THC), a constituent of cannabis; the cells were also exposed to the 
presence or absence of antagonists to cannabinoid receptors CB1 or 
CB2 or other receptors.1 At the lowest concentration tested, THC 
(0.01 ìM) caused a decrease in invasion that was accompanied by an 
increase in the expression of TIMP-1. Pretreatment of cells with 
antagonists of CB11 or CB2 reversed the stimulation of TIMP-1 
expression and the suppression of cell invasion. 

The authors concluded, Increased expression of TIMP-1 mediates an 
anti-invasive effect of cannabinoids. Cannabinoids may therefore 
offer a therapeutic option in the treatment of highly invasive 
cancers. 

Now, if only the cannabinoids could offer a therapeutic option for 
inhibiting highly invasive federal agencies like the DEA, EPA, and 
FDA. 

Reference 

Ramer and Hinz. Inhibition of cancer cell invasion by cannabinoids 
via increased expression of tissue inhibitor of matrix 
metalloproteinases-1. J Natl Cancer Inst 100:59-69 (2008).




[FairfieldLife] Hyaluronic acid testimonials

2008-02-22 Thread yifuxero
(using the pure 100% type - Synthovial-7):
http://www.easysource.com/ha/testmon.htm



[FairfieldLife] 'Another Sign of the Beginning of the End:

2008-02-22 Thread Robert
Of the War-Machine...?
   
  B-2 stealth bomber crashes on Guam 
6 minutes ago 
  

  HAGATNA, Guam - A B-2 stealth bomber crashed at an air base on Guam but both 
pilots ejected safely and were in good condition, the Air Force said. 
   Thick black smoke could be seen billowing from the wreckage at Andersen Air 
Force Base, said Geanne Ward, a resident in the northern village of Yigo who 
was on the base visiting her husband.
  Ward said she didn't witness the crash but noticed a rising plume of smoke 
behind the base's air control tower.
  She said crowds began to gather as emergency vehicles arrived Saturday 
morning local time.
  Everybody was on their cell phones, and the first thing everyone wanted to 
know was did the pilots make it out in time, she said.
  A board of officers will investigate the accident.
  Each B-2 bomber costs about $1.2 billion to build. All 21 stealth bombers are 
based at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri but the Air Force has been 
rotating several of them through Guam since 2004, along with B-1 and B-52 
bombers.
  The rotations are designed to boost the U.S. security presence in the 
Asia-Pacific region while other U.S. forces diverted to fight in the Middle 
East.
  The accident occurred 11 days after a Navy plane crashed into the ocean about 
20 miles northeast of Guam's Ritidian Point. Four aircrew members ejected from 
the EA-6B Prowler electronic warfare aircraft and were rescued by helicopter.
  Guam is a U.S. territory 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.



   
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[FairfieldLife] Enhanced mental physical performance with L-Carnitine

2008-02-22 Thread yifuxero
from http://www.life-enhancement.com

It's Never Too Late! Improved Mental and Physical Performance in 
Centenarians Treated with L-Carnitine 

A randomized controlled clinical trial was conducted in 66 
centenarians who were suffering from the onset of fatigue with even 
slight physical activity. They were divided into two groups, in which 
individuals received either 2 grams of L-carnitine or placebo once 
daily for 6 months. They were tested for changes in total fat mass, 
total muscle mass, serum triacylglycerols, total cholesterol, HDL-
cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol, Mini-Mental State Examination (MMSE), 
activities of daily living, and a 6-minute walking corridor test. 

The results showed that those receiving the L-carnitine achieved a 
reduction of total fat mass, an increase in total muscle mass, and 
increased physical and cognitive activity by reducing fatigue and 
improving cognitive functions. For example, before L-carnitine 
treatment, the walking distance in meters was 10.2 ± 3.8, whereas 
after treatment the walking distance was significantly longer at 14.6 
± 3.9 meters. There was no significant difference between the before 
and after for those receiving placebo. Total fat-free mass in those 
receiving L-carnitine increased significantly from 35.1 ± 3.2 kg to 
38.9 ± 3.9 kg. The MMSE improved significantly in the L-carnitine 
treated group but not in the placebo group. 

We take L-acetylcarnitine, which is a more bioavailable form of L-
carnitine, being better able to pass through cell membranes. 

Reference 

Malaguarnera et al. L-Carnitine treatment reduces severity of 
physical and mental fatigue and increases cognitive functions in 
centenarians: a randomized and controlled clinical trial. Am J Clin 
Nutr 86:1738-44 (2007). 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's take a walk. Speaking with Deepak

2008-02-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 Third, what is wrong with either you or he believing 
 this? He is permitted to believe anything he wants, as 
 are you. You'll notice that Chopra (as far as I know) 
 does NOT go out of his way the way you do to trash 
 anyone who doesn't believe that Maharishi is enlightened. 
 He just presents what he believes, and allows others to
 believe what they believe.
 
 I'm suggesting that you could learn from his example.


I never said there was anything wrong with Chopra believing or disbelieving 
things. I'm 
merely wondering why you assume he's telling the truth.

BTW, I am not certain that MMY was enlightened in any respect, even to the 
Cosmic 
Consciousness level, even assuming that his interpretation of things has some 
validity in 
the first place.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: UU Fellowship in Fairfield

2008-02-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I just saw the note for the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship meeting this 
 Saturday 
upstairs at Revelations from 6-8.  This is exactly what Fairfield needs:  
freethinking 
townies and ruu's meeting face-to-face (and with nametags with your real name 
on them!) 
 engaging in highflying rhetorical combat over the spiritual/material 
landscape of the 
Lebenswelt this forum is named for.  UU's demand (1) organizational 
transparency, (2) 
democratic process, (3) freedom of belief (also we don't much like patriarchy). 
 Sounds like 
a good place to start a real cultural/organizational force for good.

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Pah! I was raised in a uni-uni church. While its possibly more rare than in 
other churches, 
there are plenty of card-carrying Unitarian Universalists out there who are 
every bit as 
fundamentalist in their Uni-Uni-isms as any other fundamentalists.





Lawson (who was once chastised by the church secretary for not understanding 
the 
Unitarian Universalist Way to the great delight and amusement of the minister 
of the 
church)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, deepaconn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@
 wrote:
 
  Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita?
 
 Here's a link to the Siddha Yoga Bookstore...lots of possibilities for
 Guru Gitas here:
 
 http://siddhayogabookstore.org/search.aspx?find=guru+gita
 http://siddhayogabookstore.org/search.aspx?find=guru+gita
 
 Cath

Thanks for the suggestions. I ordered Sri Guru Gita (Paperback)
by Swami Narayanananda (Author) on Amazon.com. 



[FairfieldLife] 'Feds Need to Step in on O'Reilly's Hate Speech!'

2008-02-22 Thread Robert
   Bill O'Reilly needs to be prosecuted,by the Feds.
  For his hate speech;
  And also for inciting to riot.
  His stand on Nationalism-
  That it is never OK, to question your government...
  Reminds me of Nazi Propaganda, 
  What else could it be.
  Bill needs to be reminded,
  We live in the United States of American...
  Not Nazi Germany!
   
  Robert Gimbel  Seattle,WA
  
 
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra / Mahapatra

2008-02-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From a friend.
 
  
 
 XXX was just here.  We both agreed that Dr. Mahapatra is probably 
the Dr
 GM referred to in the email disputing what Chopra said about MMY 
in London,
 etc.  He fits the description exactly.  He was MMY's personal 
physician (or
 that's how he describes himself) and was the manager of the 8000 
boy pundits
 and other things mentioned.  We both agree that when he told us 
about
 Maharishi's heart attack and treatment in London, that he didn't 
seem to
 have all the details, he just knew it happened.  Nor did it seem 
that he was
 there.  He has lately been seeming to elevate himself by talking a 
lot about
 his time with Maharishi, but not disclosing that he was kicked out 
by
 Maharishi, nor revealing his long list of grievances with Maharishi 
and
 stories about Maharishi that he spoke about 2-3 years ago.  Knowing 
how
 Maharishi and everyone around him kept everything so very secret at 
all
 times, (I know this from first hand experience in Switzerland in 
the 70's)
 it is most likely he just didn't know the true story.  He is not an
 impressive person from an intellectual standpoint.  Our sentiment 
is that
 Chopra is a far more reliable source.



When credibility is at stake and, on the one hand, you have a 
physician who has violated doctor/patient privilege and, on the 
other, a blowhard cult sycophant wanna-be, go with the former.







 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Gita

2008-02-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Can someone recommend a good version of the Guru Gita?


The Saint James version always did it for me.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Feds Need to Step in on O'Reilly's Hate Speech!'

2008-02-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bill O'Reilly needs to be prosecuted,by the Feds.
   For his hate speech;
   And also for inciting to riot.
   His stand on Nationalism-
   That it is never OK, to question your government...
   Reminds me of Nazi Propaganda, 
   What else could it be.
   Bill needs to be reminded,
   We live in the United States of American...
   Not Nazi Germany!

   Robert Gimbel  Seattle,WA



Please share
O Mighty Gimbel
Exactly what
The blowhard said in reference to:
1) hate speech;
2) inciting to riot;
3) nationalism.





   
  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Obama= A Shephard for the Sheep-Like Masses'

2008-02-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John McCain looked so sheep-like, yesterday...
   Our whole culture seemed so lost, sometimes...
   We have felt, then Obama entered the stage.
   We've had to bear Britney Spears, wandering aimlessly around 
Hollywood.
   We've had to bear soldiers, coming back,
   Maimed and deranged from war.
   We are tired of war.
   We are thankful for a President like George W.  Bush...
   He has been so bad, that he prepared us for this magnificent 
change.
   We are lost as a nation; it's so obvious.
   But, we have learned certain things during the past few years.
   We want to go a different way, than in the past.
   We want to create a new paradigm.
   We reject, the notion of a hundred years war.
   This is Old School.
   This is unacceptable to New School philosophy.
   New School Philosophy believes that the pen,
   Is mightier than the sword.
   New School philosophy, feels that we need to talk to our enemies'
   New School philosophy requires a leader of Barack Obama's 
   Magnitude to Inspire, and to lead.
   So we all begin to aspire for something, a direction, something 
higher-
   Something more than consumerism, and death.
   We need to work on our 'Collective Soul'...

   Robert Gimbel  Seattle,WA





I can only imagine
That
The ideal candidate
For Nimble Gimbel
Would be
Jesse Jackson
Because
Like Robert
Everything he says
rhymes










 

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[FairfieldLife] An inconvenient truth: global cooling

2008-02-22 Thread shempmcgurk
Please!  Please!  Please!

Help combat global cooling!  Please get in your car this week-end and 
take an unnecessary drive somewhereleave the car running for an 
hour or two in the driveway...burn some coal!

http://tinyurl.com/3b5h2l