[FairfieldLife] A Programmer's Jeremiad on Dr. Mills' CQM
have been watching and visiting the BLP and more recently Millsian websites for years now, waiting for CQM and the rest of Randall Mills theories to be either proven false all together or recoginized as fact and joyfully watch as every Physics and Chemistry book is re-written based on new exact knowledge. Unfortunately, I am not a Physist or Chemist by far (a lowly programmer and aspiring writer) or I would have taken it upon myself to attempt to truly understand some of the subtles of the new theories and perhaps even perform some experiments or calculations to sway my thoughts of the whole matter one way or the other for good. That not being in my cards lacking the expertise necessary to test or think myself an opinion as it were I have to trust my decent understanding of the laws of nature and general science and my gut. From the seemingly likely and elegant assertation that the Dark Matter everyone can't find is hydrinos to the fact that Quantum Theory as a whole is so full of holes, chance and non-predictablility when everything else in the Universe is explainable and definable and exact. These items, as well as many other acedots and assertations and the fact that Dr. Mills has spent so many years creating the tome that is CQM (which is essentially the fundimental understanding that Einstein spent his last days struggling to put together) and the research results he has made available so far I have to believe in what Dr. Mills is selling. Read more: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hydrino/message/13129
[FairfieldLife] The New 'Bill and Hill Show' On Fox
The new Hill and Bill(Reilly does it again!)Show! Come one, come all! Indeed, this is the 'Greatest Show on Earth'... You might think, they are some kind of 'Soul mates'... They well enjoyed each other's company, yes? It was a ratings blowout for business(good for both of their respective careers) They are 'Made' for each other(scary!) Will Hillary use Fox news, as a propaganda outlet, like Bush? A developing story, but what is this new narrative? Is Hillary is still a Goldwater girl at heart? Has she found her 'new' Bill? Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton using Obama's race against him?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were rumors that Hillary Clinton is Lesbian she is starting to appear more and more like a Lesbian everyday. Not sure if it is because women lose their femininity in politics or what. She has even gone as far as insituating she is more of man than he is... All I can say is that if Hillary is gay, and the rumored recipient of more of her...uh... sharp tongue than she gives to Obama is her aide Huma Abedin, Hill's got *much* better taste in women than Bill does. http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos/humaabedin.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
(snip) There's something for us to listen to about that. ...talking from the level of the heart that we're talking about, not just emotional, but the spiritual heart. ...directly connected to this opening to the heart of the world, which is really opening into the core of the earth's intelligence, the revelation of the purpose of Gaia, of our planet, its self-revealing mechanism revealing itself. (snip) You guy's forgot the 'Third Eye Club'... I remember a guy from Wisconsin, Mike Holzman... He started the Third Eye Club with a chapter in FF, back in early '80's ... Don't know if the club still exists, there? Anyway, we use to share our third eye experiences, Like being able to see karma, and into the future and stuff. It's all due to looking out of the third eye... Feeling at 'One with the All'... The more daunting task, is really connecting back directly to the soul energy, above the head, and out to the universal consciousness, Whatever that means? Go Buddhas...
[FairfieldLife] for Shempsky
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[FairfieldLife] Siddhi-refresher-course and weather?
There's supposed to be a siddhi refresher course here in my hometown (Tampere, Finland: 61N30 - 23E45) today (Saturday) and tomorrow. I have no idea how many participants there are, if any, but at least the weather seems to reflect a rather harmonious collective consciousness. http://www.tampere.fi/sanoinjakuvin/kuvat/nettikamerat/ http://www.sarkanniemi.fi/www/webcam.php?lang=fi
[FairfieldLife] 'Clinton's Man in NC/Ruthless?'
RALEIGH, N.C. -- Sitting on the sunny patio of a coffee shop last weekend, Averell AceSmith hardly seemed the kind of guy to strike fear into a politician's heart. The 49-year-old California politicaloperative -- who helped Hillary Rodham Clinton to victories in the California and Texas Democratic presidential primaries and is now running her North Carolina operation -- was a study in bland: beige polo shirt, beige slacks, bright blue eyes framed by wire-rimmedglasses, a fringe of gray hair around a pink scalp. Yet people -- many of them fellow Democrats -- frequently use melodramatic imagery to describehim. I believe that every life lesson in politics can be extrapolated from 'The Godfather,' said Chris Lehane, aDemocratic strategist and friend of Smith's who has worked for the Clintons. Some people are Fredos; at game time they disappear. There are Sonnys, who yell and scream. . . . The mosteffective ones are the Michael Corleones. Very quiet, they know under which rib to insert the knife. . . . Ace is a Michael Corleone. The next round of the seemingly interminablequest for the Democratic nomination takes place Tuesday, when Indiana and North Carolina vote. They are the first contests since April 22, when Clinton beat Barack Obama in Pennsylvania. The race is close in Indiana. In North Carolina, which has a sizable African American electorate, polls have shown Obama ahead, but Clinton has been gaining support over the last week. The fact that the Clinton campaign stationed Smith here signals how crucial the state is to her; she intends to fight for every vote. Everyone knew that Pennsylvania was essentially going to be a walk for Clinton and that the whole thing would come down to Indiana and North Carolina, said Joe Trippi, a top advisor to former presidential candidate John Edwards. Guess where Ace Smith is? I don't think that's an accident. If Smith can help Clinton seriously narrow Obama's margin of victory -- or even beat him -- in the Tar Heel State, the New York senator's argument that she is the more electable of the two will gain considerable strength. A victory would also burnish Smith's reputation as a top-notch strategist and perhaps change his image as a fearsome practitioner of a dark political art: opposition research. Ben Austin, a Democratic political consultant who worked in the Clinton White House and now supports Obama, put it this way: He is one of the few balding, bespectacled guys who I wouldn't want to runinto in a dark alley. But not all Democrats are fans. It's admirable if you can lie and get away with it, said Kam Kuwata, a consultant to former Los Angeles Mayor James Hahn, whoran against Smith client Antonio Villaraigosa twice -- successfully in 2001, unsuccessfully in 2005. And Republicans? Attorney Ken Khachigian, a longtime Republican strategist, is a reluctantadmirer. He faced off with Smith in 2006 when a client, former stateSen. Chuck Poochigian, lost to Smith client and former Gov. Jerry Brown for California attorney general. He does what he has to do, Khachigian said. He'll be relentless and tough. Hefits right in with the Clinton war machine. Khachigian figured in Smith's biggest political heartbreak. In 1990, Smith was deeply involved in the campaign of his father, longtime San Francisco Dist. Atty. Arlo Smith, who ran against Dan Lungren for state attorney general. Smith won on election day but lost two weekslater when absentee ballots barely put Lungren over the top. Evennow, Ace Smith has a hard time discussing it: I'll tell you something. I have a tremendous amount of empathy for President Clinton. . . . I mean, if you see someone criticizing, attackingyour father, in my case, or his wife, in his case, you just want to slug 'em. Nevertheless, he said, you cannot run campaigns if you can't remain calm in the face of adversity and bad polls. The best thing is to be as dispassionate as possible. Up and down the state of California, political reporters have Ace Smith stories. They speak of heavy boxes landing on their desks, ammunition culled from public records that Smith hopes will shape the campaign narrative. The topic might be voting records, inflated resume claims, long-ago brushes with the law orquestionable business dealings. Not infrequently, stories ensue.Reporters say he is charming, helpful, tenacious and not averse to going over their heads to editors in an attempt to shape a story -- or kill one if he senses it is going to make a client look bad. When The Times reported in 2006 that Los Angeles City Atty. Rocky Delgadillo -- then
[FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddhi-refresher-course and weather?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's supposed to be a siddhi refresher course here in my hometown (Tampere, Finland: 61N30 - 23E45) today (Saturday) and tomorrow. I have no idea how many participants there are, if any, but at least the weather seems to reflect a rather harmonious collective consciousness. http://www.tampere.fi/sanoinjakuvin/kuvat/nettikamerat/ http://www.sarkanniemi.fi/www/webcam.php?lang=fi Even Nokia seems to have a rather nice weather at the moment: http://www.jotain.com/tamperecam/ Second row from the bottom, the middlemost pic...
[FairfieldLife] Dumb and Dumber
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Published: April 30, 2008
It is great to see that we finally have
some national unity on energy policy. Unfortunately, the unifying idea
is so ridiculous, so unworthy of the people aspiring to lead our
nation, it takes your breath away. Hillary Clinton has decided to line
up with John McCain in pushing to suspend the federal excise tax on
gasoline, 18.4 cents a gallon, for this summer’s travel season. This is
not an energy policy. This is money laundering: we borrow money from
China and ship it to Saudi Arabia and take a little cut for ourselves
as it goes through our gas tanks. What a way to build our country.
When the summer is over, we
will have increased our debt to China, increased our transfer of wealth
to Saudi Arabia and increased our contribution to global warming for
our kids to inherit.
No, no, no, we’ll just get the money by
taxing Big Oil, says Mrs. Clinton. Even if you could do that, what a
terrible way to spend precious tax dollars — burning it up on the way
to the beach rather than on innovation?
The McCain-Clinton gas
holiday proposal is a perfect example of what energy expert Peter
Schwartz of Global Business Network describes as the true American
energy policy today: “Maximize demand, minimize supply and buy the rest
from the people who hate us the most.”
Good for Barack Obama for resisting this shameful pandering.
But
here’s what’s scary: our problem is so much worse than you think. We
have no energy strategy. If you are going to use tax policy to shape
energy strategy then you want to raise taxes on the things you want to
discourage — gasoline consumption and gas-guzzling cars — and you want
to lower taxes on the things you want to encourage — new, renewable
energy technologies. We are doing just the opposite.
Are you sitting down?
Few
Americans know it, but for almost a year now, Congress has been
bickering over whether and how to renew the investment tax credit to
stimulate investment in solar energy and the production tax credit to
encourage investment in wind energy. The bickering has been so
poisonous that when Congress passed the 2007 energy bill last December,
it failed to extend any stimulus for wind and solar energy production.
Oil and gas kept all their credits, but those for wind and solar have
been left to expire this December. I am not making this up. At a time
when we should be throwing everything into clean power innovation, we
are squabbling over pennies.
These credits are critical because
they ensure that if oil prices slip back down again — which often
happens — investments in wind and solar would still be profitable.
That’s how you launch a new energy technology and help it achieve
scale, so it can compete without subsidies.
The Democrats wanted
the wind and solar credits to be paid for by taking away tax credits
from the oil industry. President Bush said he would veto that. Neither
side would back down, and Mr. Bush — showing not one iota of leadership
— refused to get all the adults together in a room and work out a
compromise. Stalemate. Meanwhile, Germany has a 20-year solar incentive
program; Japan 12 years. Ours, at best, run two years.
“It’s a
disaster,” says Michael Polsky, founder of Invenergy, one of the
biggest wind-power developers in America. “Wind is a very
capital-intensive industry, and financial institutions are not ready to
take ‘Congressional risk.’ They say if you don’t get the [production
tax credit] we will not lend you the money to buy more turbines and
build projects.”
It is also alarming, says Rhone Resch, the
president of the Solar Energy Industries Association, that the U.S. has
reached a point “where the priorities of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Very nice! But you should have posted without the Guy Fawkes address and we would have completely believed you, at least for a while. --- guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
--- R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) There's something for us to listen to about that. ...talking from the level of the heart that we're talking about, not just emotional, but the spiritual heart. ...directly connected to this opening to the heart of the world, which is really opening into the core of the earth's intelligence, the revelation of the purpose of Gaia, of our planet, its self-revealing mechanism revealing itself. (snip) You guy's forgot the 'Third Eye Club'... I remember a guy from Wisconsin, Mike Holzman... He started the Third Eye Club with a chapter in FF, back in early '80's ... Don't know if the club still exists, there? Anyway, we use to share our third eye experiences, Like being able to see karma, and into the future and stuff. It's all due to looking out of the third eye... Feeling at 'One with the All'... The more daunting task, is really connecting back directly to the soul energy, above the head, and out to the universal consciousness, Whatever that means? Go Buddhas... So is so much amazing shit at subtle levels that it ridiculous. You could get lost forever. -Ashtar, King of Gnu Loka To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
RE: [FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 8:39 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Until I got to the end I thought this was true. Now it seems to be someone having nothing better to do... Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice! But you should have posted without the Guy Fawkes address and we would have completely believed you, at least for a while. --- guyfawkes91 wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwared: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. I think we've just met Raja Emanuel's gay and equally humorless lover.
[FairfieldLife] Dennis Raimondi
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton using Obama's race against him?
You got that right. I would love to have a contest TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie wrote: There were rumors that Hillary Clinton is Lesbian she is starting to appear more and more like a Lesbian everyday. Not sure if it is because women lose their femininity in politics or what. She has even gone as far as insituating she is more of man than he is... All I can say is that if Hillary is gay, and the rumored recipient of more of her...uh... sharp tongue than she gives to Obama is her aide Huma Abedin, Hill's got *much* better taste in women than Bill does. http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos/humaabedin.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dennis Raimondi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have Dennis's Email? According to http://speakingfreelywithdennis.com/cms/content/view/19/35/ his email address is draimondi AT yahoo.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Ha! I knew this was going to happen. The TMO is so far gone, they can't even see humor in parody. When a group can not laugh at its underbelly and claims they have no underbelly, you know they are in deep shit and never coming out. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 8:39 AM Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
I thought it was true too,until I came to the He changed me into a newt... passage. We all know that MMY never gave out this siddhi. ;-) --- Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until I got to the end I thought this was true. Now it seems to be someone having nothing better to do... Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice! But you should have posted without the Guy Fawkes address and we would have completely believed you, at least for a while. --- guyfawkes91 wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Crime WHY? What law? What jurisdiction? CAREFUL WHY?
In a message dated 5/3/2008 8:17:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 8:39 AM **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still a crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you extradited as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know what happened after the last one. Nice to know international are on the case though, stamping out fun wherever it my arise. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 8:39 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
On May 3, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. Joerg: What would be the appropriate Vedic punishment? After all, we want to be in accord with natural law! We were thinking ghee-boarding may be the way the go, but you know us crazy Americans. Super Radiantly Yours, Vaj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Disapproval Rating Makes History
off_world_beings wrote: On the contrary, George Washington was known as a traitor, thief, and a despotic landowner, and helping the regimes of fascist papists of Europe. Bhairitu wrote: whereas George W. Bush will be known as the murderer of our country. True, and also known the President who loved his dog more than his country. Ron Paul is already going down in history with the appelation: Ron Paul - The new founding father. Like your comments are supposed to convince me to vote for Ron Paul for the U.S. House of Representatives for Texas?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Strange too, that some folks see humor as hate. What's that saying again? Oh yeah -- knowledge is structured in consciousness! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. snip Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still a crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you extradited as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know what happened after the last one. Nice to know international are on the case though, stamping out fun wherever it my arise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Disapproval Rating Makes History
...whereas George W. Bush will be known as the murderer of our country. Jim wrote: ...neocons for whom he is a defacto saint, who even cares about ronald what day is it? reagan anymore? Bring in the drug addled clowns, the anarchists and the socialists!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as gover...
Some forks se him as guilty not presumed innocent of what crime what jurisdictions? HA! HO! In a message dated 5/3/2008 9:34:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Strange too, that some folks see humor as hate. What's that saying again? Oh yeah -- knowledge is structured in consciousness! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. snip Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still a crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you extradited as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know what happened after the last one. Nice to know international are on the case though, stamping out fun wherever it my arise. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton using Obama's race against him?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: There were rumors that Hillary Clinton is Lesbian she is starting to appear more and more like a Lesbian everyday. Not sure if it is because women lose their femininity in politics or what. She has even gone as far as insituating she is more of man than he is... All I can say is that if Hillary is gay, and the rumored recipient of more of her...uh... sharp tongue than she gives to Obama is her aide Huma Abedin, Hill's got *much* better taste in women than Bill does. http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos/humaabedin.jpg I can't stand hillary's despicable campaign but these rumours about her sexuality is just rehashed nonsense from 90s right wing attack nonsense which also had drug dealing bill clinton killing hillary's lover vince foster. To repeat these just makes you a pawn of the worst of the republicans.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Give poor Joerg a break. He's German. We are highly serious people. --- hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange too, that some folks see humor as hate. What's that saying again? Oh yeah -- knowledge is structured in consciousness! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. snip Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still a crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you extradited as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know what happened after the last one. Nice to know international are on the case though, stamping out fun wherever it my arise. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give poor Joerg a break. He's German. We are highly serious people. I wrote some parts of Europe rather than simply Germany just so I wouldn't offend you. Nice to know you wouldn't have minded ;-) --- hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange too, that some folks see humor as hate. What's that saying again? Oh yeah -- knowledge is structured in consciousness! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. snip Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still a crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you extradited as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know what happened after the last one. Nice to know international are on the case though, stamping out fun wherever it my arise. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clinton using Obama's race against him?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: There were rumors that Hillary Clinton is Lesbian she is starting to appear more and more like a Lesbian everyday. Not sure if it is because women lose their femininity in politics or what. She has even gone as far as insituating she is more of man than he is... All I can say is that if Hillary is gay, and the rumored recipient of more of her...uh... sharp tongue than she gives to Obama is her aide Huma Abedin, Hill's got *much* better taste in women than Bill does. http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos/humaabedin.jpg I can't stand hillary's despicable campaign but these rumours about her sexuality is just rehashed nonsense from 90s right wing attack nonsense which also had drug dealing bill clinton killing hillary's lover vince foster. To repeat these just makes you a pawn of the worst of the republicans. Well, since the rumors long predate her involvement with politics or even with Bill, I give them some credence. But that's kinda beside the point. I wasn't bashing her, I was complimenting her on her taste in carpet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
On May 3, 2008, at 7:53 AM, Peter wrote: Ha! I knew this was going to happen. The TMO is so far gone, they can't even see humor in parody. Were they *ever* able to see that? I must have missed those lectures. As far back as I can recall, they've always walked around like they had boards shoved you-know-where. Humor? What the hell is that? When a group can not laugh at its underbelly and claims they have no underbelly, you know they are in deep shit and never coming out. Sal
[FairfieldLife] A Book for Angela
Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. Obama comes from the orbit of the Ford Foundation, and has never won an election in a real contest. His guru and controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the Trilateral Commission co-founder and mad Russia-hater. Zbig wants a showdown with Russia and China far more dangerous for the US than the Bush-Cheney Iraq quagmire. Obama's economics are pure Skull Bones/Chicago school austerity and sacrifice for American working families, to bail out the bankrupt Wall Street financiers who own him. Obama's lemming legions and Kool-Aid cult candidacy hearken back to Italy in 1919-1922, and raise a spectre of postmodern fascism in America. No voter can afford to ignore the lessons contained in this book. You can order a bound copy for $15, but you can also download it as a PDF for only $5. http://www.lulu.com/content/2325554 Here's a review by John Leonard with more details: Why do we know so little about Obama? Is he the Secret Door to World War for Brzezinski Co? 15 Apr 2008 (updated 15 Apr 2008) by John Leonard Politicians do the opposite of what they promise more often than not. So before you vote, plug your ears to their speeches, and see what policies their advisers advocate. In Obama: the Postmodern Coup, Tarpley gets a giant scoop as the first to delve behind the screen into the forces behind Obama: his policy advisors are far right- wingers! Zbigniew Brzezinski is CEO of the BHO show. For the economy, regressive Skull Bones and Wall Street figures. In military affairs, it's Gen. McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics. Obama's backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Chicago School of Economics, Bilderbergers - and the Ford Foundation six ways to Sunday. No wonder he gets the lion's share of the campaign financing from the corporations and a free ride from the corporate media. All unawares, the United States slipped into the grip of a soft coup last fall, the Brzezinski faction has won over the power elite, and the neo-cons are already lame ducks. Tarpley finds that Zbig also controls two of the three front runners for the presidency -- Barack Obama and John McCain, but that Obama is the elitist favorite for a facelift to the tottering empire. Obama is a Brzezinski protegé, scripted in the lofty role of savior, a required figure in the planned hysteria of the people power coups perfected by the CIA and NGO's in Eastern Europe. The recipe has now been brought home to short-circuit America's political process. Tarpley should be dean of social sciences in a prestigious university, if they aren't all funded by Rockefeller and Ford foundations! I have a poli sci degree, but almost all of Postmodern Coup was new to me: - American political history is marked by cycles or party realignments of about 36 or 40 years, such as FDR's 1932 landslide or the upheavals of 1968. A few right-wing strategists like Samuel Huntington know this. They began planning around 1980 to subvert our current cycle shift, first by the War on Terror, now with the synthetic, pseudo-leftist Obama movement, to set the nation on a course they will determine until around 2050. - The Democrats repeatedly nominate losing presidential candidates with their caucus system, favoring Volvo- driving Democrats who decide the primaries in red states, which the Dems don't win in the GE. Obama continues this tradition of Mondale, Dukakis, McGovern etc., folks who won't play in Peoria. - Fascism doesn't start out as a right-wing, top-down system. How to recognize it in the bud? It begins as a youth movement, often leftist, idealist, mystical, with stirring slogans, euphoria, and a theme of national regeneration. Like Obamania. Mussolini and Hitler both got their start with outwardly leftist laborite parties. - Why does Obama want to attack Pakistan, the world's 6th largest country, with almost 3 times more people than Iran, and 6 times more than Iraq? It's a Chinese ally, and to get at Russia, Brzezinski wants to isolate China, forcing it to attack Russia to get oil. A madcap scheme that will only isolate the US even more. Postmodern Coup is a book with a mission: to stave off the looming world-historical tragedy Tarpley foresees. Yet it's about much more than Manchurian candidate Obama, or even Brzezinski and his earlier puppet, Jimmy Carter. Historian Tarpley draws on an unparalleled store of erudition, past precedents and inside knowledge of today's political
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Book for Angela
On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate… Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. Let's look at each assertion: Personality - Obama's books, written by himself, show a uniquely thoughtful integrated personality esp. compared to most politicians; Megalomaniac - actually the opposite personality esp. when compared to Clintons; Intelligence agencies with fake polls - this is just too nutty to even respond to; Mobs of adolescents - Obama consistently draws the largest mixed aged audiences of any audience, this was certainly true of ffld last summer; Super-rich backers - the facts shows Obama clearly has the broadest range of low donor support among all candidates; Media Hysteria - since overtaking Hillary in all polls Obama has had the sharpest media criticism esp. the nonsense of the past month.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
On May 3, 2008, at 9:47 AM, boo_lives wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate… Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. Of course it does, boo, which is why I didn't even bother trying to refute all the absurdity, (not to mention the double-standard). Where to begin? Let's look at each assertion: Personality - Obama's books, written by himself, show a uniquely thoughtful integrated personality esp. compared to most politicians; Megalomaniac - actually the opposite personality esp. when compared to Clintons; Intelligence agencies with fake polls - this is just too nutty to even respond to; Mobs of adolescents - Obama consistently draws the largest mixed aged audiences of any audience, this was certainly true of ffld last summer; Super-rich backers - the facts shows Obama clearly has the broadest range of low donor support among all candidates; Media Hysteria - since overtaking Hillary in all polls Obama has had the sharpest media criticism esp. the nonsense of the past month. You got it--very well said. Obama's detractors are just showing they'll say anything to try and take him down, basically doing McCain's work for him, which I have no doubt is exactly what Hill wants. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) I'm glad you appreciate the humor here, Sal. I find it side-splitting, myself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. Let's look at each assertion: Personality - Obama's books, written by himself, show a uniquely thoughtful integrated personality esp. compared to most politicians; Megalomaniac - actually the opposite personality esp. when compared to Clintons; Intelligence agencies with fake polls - this is just too nutty to even respond to; Mobs of adolescents - Obama consistently draws the largest mixed aged audiences of any audience, this was certainly true of ffld last summer; Super-rich backers - the facts shows Obama clearly has the broadest range of low donor support among all candidates; Media Hysteria - since overtaking Hillary in all polls Obama has had the sharpest media criticism esp. the nonsense of the past month.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. No! How could you possibly say such a thing? I mean, the guy who wrote it, as I noted above, is a well-known 9/11 Truth activist. I'll bet you don't believe the World Trade Center towers were brought down by controlled demolition by rogue elements of the CIA, or that it was actually a missile that hit the Pentagon, either. Angela and Bhairitu and Edg are going to be *very* disappointed in you, I'm afraid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. No! How could you possibly say such a thing? I mean, the guy who wrote it, as I noted above, is a well-known 9/11 Truth activist. I'll bet you don't believe the World Trade Center towers were brought down by controlled demolition by rogue elements of the CIA, or that it was actually a missile that hit the Pentagon, either. Angela and Bhairitu and Edg are going to be *very* disappointed in you, I'm afraid. BTW, Barry's going to be upset too. I mean, here you are, denouncing a book you haven't even read!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
A good example of the impossibility of anyone continuing the powerful TM and related transcending techniques while trying to maintain a rigid egoic image of themselves-- IMO why many people either become increasingly fundamentalist, bordering on craziness, as a reaction against the ever expanding and encroaching transcendence in their lives while continuing the techniques, waging a desperate yet futile fight against the inevitable and strong tide of disillusion, or quit doing TM altogether. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! I knew this was going to happen. The TMO is so far gone, they can't even see humor in parody. When a group can not laugh at its underbelly and claims they have no underbelly, you know they are in deep shit and never coming out. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: 5/1/2008 8:39 AM _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Sal ...and Sal, drawn to the negative energy like a bee to honey...
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Book for Angela
Thanks, Judy, but I'm so deeply gone into conspiracy theory that I had surmised that such must surely be surely the case. A real miracle at this time in planetary history, given all the garbage in every sector you can see? I implied as much when I said that the whole election process in this country is a show designed to convince us that we have a democracy--have you read Quigley? Ben Franklin was dead serious when, in answer to the question as to what kind of government they'd cooked up (behind closed doors, by the way), he said, A republic--if you can keep it. Given the nature of the Dao, keeping it is a self-contradictory impossibility. Or, maybe, he knew its nature very well, maybe he said it in an ironically loving undertone-a tone of Have fun dearest milch kine, and enjoy your growth, pruning time is coming soon enough--and, believe me, in spite of all appearances, I do worship your ass for bringing down the milk so sweet--and the blood. Trust us to manage well enough so that there will be a resurrection. Insurrection is a whole n'other game plan. Even then, you gotta ask, Whence inspiration? --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. Obama comes from the orbit of the Ford Foundation, and has never won an election in a real contest. His guru and controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the Trilateral Commission co-founder and mad Russia-hater. Zbig wants a showdown with Russia and China far more dangerous for the US than the Bush-Cheney Iraq quagmire. Obama's economics are pure Skull Bones/Chicago school austerity and sacrifice for American working families, to bail out the bankrupt Wall Street financiers who own him. Obama's lemming legions and Kool-Aid cult candidacy hearken back to Italy in 1919-1922, and raise a spectre of postmodern fascism in America. No voter can afford to ignore the lessons contained in this book. You can order a bound copy for $15, but you can also download it as a PDF for only $5. http://www.lulu.com/content/2325554 Here's a review by John Leonard with more details: Why do we know so little about Obama? Is he the Secret Door to World War for Brzezinski Co? 15 Apr 2008 (updated 15 Apr 2008) by John Leonard Politicians do the opposite of what they promise more often than not. So before you vote, plug your ears to their speeches, and see what policies their advisers advocate. In Obama: the Postmodern Coup, Tarpley gets a giant scoop as the first to delve behind the screen into the forces behind Obama: his policy advisors are far right- wingers! Zbigniew Brzezinski is CEO of the BHO show. For the economy, regressive Skull Bones and Wall Street figures. In military affairs, it's Gen. McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics. Obama's backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Chicago School of Economics, Bilderbergers - and the Ford Foundation six ways to Sunday. No wonder he gets the lion's share of the campaign financing from the corporations and a free ride from the corporate media. All unawares, the United States slipped into the grip of a soft coup last fall, the Brzezinski faction has won over the power elite, and the neo-cons are already lame ducks. Tarpley finds that Zbig also controls two of the three front runners for the presidency -- Barack Obama and John McCain, but that Obama is the elitist favorite for a facelift to the tottering empire. Obama is a Brzezinski protegé, scripted in the lofty role of savior, a required figure in the planned hysteria of the people power coups perfected by the CIA and NGO's in Eastern Europe. The recipe has now been brought home to short-circuit America's political process. Tarpley should be dean of social sciences in a prestigious university, if they aren't all funded by Rockefeller and Ford foundations! I have a poli sci degree, but almost all of Postmodern Coup was new to me: - American political history is marked by cycles or party realignments of about 36 or 40 years, such as FDR's 1932 landslide or the upheavals of 1968. A few right-wing strategists like Samuel Huntington know this. They began planning around 1980 to subvert our current cycle shift, first by the War on Terror, now with the synthetic, pseudo-leftist Obama movement, to set the nation on a course they will determine until around 2050. - The
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Book for Angela
How conscious is the Manchurian? What a great question to try to answer. Does he know he's Siva? Is he havin' fun bein' Siva? --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Sal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
Again, I ask, how conscious is Siva's tool? The thing I learned in China is that no matter what they call themselves, ruling class is ruling class. Here's your choice: three different kinds of butchers. Given that choice, I vote for the image. Cause we, the milch kine can always be wrong--history should show that much. --- boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. Let's look at each assertion: Personality - Obama's books, written by himself, show a uniquely thoughtful integrated personality esp. compared to most politicians; Megalomaniac - actually the opposite personality esp. when compared to Clintons; Intelligence agencies with fake polls - this is just too nutty to even respond to; Mobs of adolescents - Obama consistently draws the largest mixed aged audiences of any audience, this was certainly true of ffld last summer; Super-rich backers - the facts shows Obama clearly has the broadest range of low donor support among all candidates; Media Hysteria - since overtaking Hillary in all polls Obama has had the sharpest media criticism esp. the nonsense of the past month. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
Hey Curtis, I just remembered that I want to say I'm sorry to you for dissing your livelihood awhile back-- playing the blues. I remember the context and what drove me to criticize your livelihood, your path, and regardless it was kind of a fucked up thing to do in retrospect. Egg on my face- lol. I find you to be a real and genuine person-- good meat so to speak. Anyway, I owe you that one. Hope you are enjoying the hell out of playing your blues, and keeping it real, as I am sure you are. Maybe one day I'll get to DC again and try to find you on the streets of Alexandria. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. Let's look at each assertion: Personality - Obama's books, written by himself, show a uniquely thoughtful integrated personality esp. compared to most politicians; Megalomaniac - actually the opposite personality esp. when compared to Clintons; Intelligence agencies with fake polls - this is just too nutty to even respond to; Mobs of adolescents - Obama consistently draws the largest mixed aged audiences of any audience, this was certainly true of ffld last summer; Super-rich backers - the facts shows Obama clearly has the broadest range of low donor support among all candidates; Media Hysteria - since overtaking Hillary in all polls Obama has had the sharpest media criticism esp. the nonsense of the past month.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
Yuns are not transcending the level of the problem. Remember, you can't solve a problem on the level of the problem. To make it perfectly plain, yuns can argue back and forth till you get bored, you won't get to a point where an argument can't be countered and you win. --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:47 AM, boo_lives wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. Of course it does, boo, which is why I didn't even bother trying to refute all the absurdity, (not to mention the double-standard). Where to begin? Let's look at each assertion: Personality - Obama's books, written by himself, show a uniquely thoughtful integrated personality esp. compared to most politicians; Megalomaniac - actually the opposite personality esp. when compared to Clintons; Intelligence agencies with fake polls - this is just too nutty to even respond to; Mobs of adolescents - Obama consistently draws the largest mixed aged audiences of any audience, this was certainly true of ffld last summer; Super-rich backers - the facts shows Obama clearly has the broadest range of low donor support among all candidates; Media Hysteria - since overtaking Hillary in all polls Obama has had the sharpest media criticism esp. the nonsense of the past month. You got it--very well said. Obama's detractors are just showing they'll say anything to try and take him down, basically doing McCain's work for him, which I have no doubt is exactly what Hill wants. Sal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
On May 3, 2008, at 9:59 AM, authfriend wrote: And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) I'm glad you appreciate the humor here, Sal. I find it side-splitting, myself. Of course I do, Judy. Who could possibly take such nuttiness seriously? Glad you agree. :) Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
Yup, it's a fun thread. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) I'm glad you appreciate the humor here, Sal. I find it side-splitting, myself. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Perv-O-Rishi Effect hits Texas
So do I. --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel a disturbance in the Yonified Field. Followers support Hindu leader accused of child molestation 5/2/2008 8:10 PM By: Heidi Zhou Prakashanand Saraswati faces child molestation charges. Prakashanand Saraswati's temple shows no sign of the trouble its founder faces. The human body is very precious, Saraswati told worshippers during a teaching last Saturday. You can find the best thingall that is great in this lifetimeif you properly understand and follow the path. Saraswati, or Shree Swamiji as his devotees call him, gave the teaching just hours after his followers paid $1 million to bail him out of the Hays County jail. The 79-year-old Saraswati teaches seminars in New York, but in Austin, 20 counts of child sexual abuse await his return. WATCH THE VIDEO Hindu Leader News 8 Austin's Heidi Zhou tells us about the bond between the guru and his followers. We are deeply saddened by these accusations. They are completely not true, Barsana Dham spokesperson Prabhakari Devi said after learning of Saraswati's arrest. Such loyalty to the spiritual teacher, or guru, is not a surprise according to Hinduism expert Jagannath Vedula. Guru is worshiped, in the sense they bow to the guru, he said. Vedula is Vice President of the Austin Hindu Temple. Unlike Barsana Dham, Vedula's temple doesn't follow a guru. Prakashanand Saraswati's temple shows no sign of the trouble its founder faces.It's a personal preference, Vedula said. Different people do it differently. While some question whether it's blind faith, Saraswati's followers said he is not at the center of a personality cult. But they do refer to him as his divinity, and they said he has impeccable behavior. He's dedicated his whole life to uplifting humanity, Devi said. Anyone who knows him could never think he could ever harm anyone. Not harming anyone by thought, word or deed is Hinduism's basic tenant. Now it's up to the law to decide whether Saraswati remains the example to follow. Saraswati was born in India and came to Central Texas to build his dream temple, Barsana Dham. The two-hundred-acre complex was founded in 1990. According to its Web site, www.barsanadham.org, Barsana Dham is home to about 50 adult residents. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
On May 3, 2008, at 10:26 AM, sandiego108 wrote: And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Sal ...and Sal, drawn to the negative energy like a bee to honey... Dry up, you humorless old fart. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
Vaj, General notes: 1. I'm not enlightened by any standard I know of, but I think I have intellectual clarity about the concepts of Advaita. I find most folks talking about Advaita to be off a bit and not understanding the incredibly fierce philosophy that Advaita presents. It took me many readings before I got it that I wasn't grokking silence, and that my ego was working against my understanding of it -- because Advaita is a mofo ego killer, though to be sure, the ego is not alive and cannot be found! 2. I've read a lot of the works of the neo-Ads. 3. I've read close to all of Ramana's and Nisargadatta's works. 4. I've read Ramana's Talks four full times -- taking up to a year to do so each time -- reading about 30 - 40 minutes per dayand thinking hard whenever the meaning of a sentence was not immediately obvious to me. I continue to browse it with satisfaction and resonance. 5. I've read Nisargadatta's I Am That at least two times and have browsed the book often enough to constitute another reading. 6. I think, for our purposes here, I have a solid education in Advaita, and think I could answer any question that these two Masters could put to me about their works. Not that I know all the Sanskrit words in the glossary, but that I understand the concepts they represent. And, do not think that I am saying that I could pull of wearing a dhoti and grabbing a rose with pinky petals and be a guru who spontaneously says the truth. I'm much more a writer who knows he needs to re-read and edit his words before he can be sure that they would resonate with Advaita to a strong degree. 7. I do not worship any master, nor do I think Ramana is operational except in a very special sense that I might not get around to explaining in this conversation. I'm all for worshiping if someone wants to do so, but to me, worshiping is bhakti, and it doesn't matter to me so much what the object of worship is, but the mental technique that one is using is all important; there's tons of methods for worship/prayer that work, but some are better than others, and some practitioners are far more adept than others. 8. I feel I have a very very strong intuition, but I have an equally long history of ignoring its red flag waving -- I frequently do something I know to be wrong. It is this intuition that is my alarm bell that rings when neo-Ads present themselves. Since I have an ego the size of the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters, I think I'm all set to recognize it in others, and if there is egoic attachment by this reckoning skill of mine, then I read their words with an extra sharp red pencil, because subtleties are the be all and end all of Advaita. Okay, now to your contributions below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Duveyoung wrote: The funniest thing to me is that no one here has yet convinced me that they grok Advaita enough to know what it is enough to accept or reject it. To reject neo-Advaitans is easypeasy if you don't know what you're talking about. It takes some very adroit observations to catch the neo-Advaitans being dissonant with the words of Ramana Maharshi or Nisargadatta Maharaj, but the very fact that language is being used can account for most of the errors of the neo-Ads. LOL. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have an ego, but Advaita's axioms clearly show that language cannot be expected to present the knowledge completely since it is dualistic, and many a language's grammar forces constructions that are incorrect but are nonetheless the closest that that language can get. Many languages have huge differences in how they view time and space for instance -- see S. I. Hayakawa's Language in Thought and Action's ideas about the Navajos' POV. Godel and quantum physics know this too. This sentence is false. for example, is beyond truth or falsity, yet it can be employed didactically just as math's imaginary numbers are a powerful tool for clarity. (Einstein would be nothing if not for Lorenz's contraction theorem's breakthrough use of imaginary numbers - e.g. the square root of minus one -- which had to be discovered before Einstein had the math to embody relativity.) I often find neo-Ad statements are peppered with syntax forced errors. Ramana is quite clear that a statement like I am that, is a case of one being made into three -- knower, knowing, known, and that this proves that the intellect cannot be expected to bring one to unity. The intellect takes one to a doorway, and the ego must be left behind at this point. I often find neo-Ads thinking egoically but also skilled with a bristling defensiveness and having an arsenal of deflection blurbs that can turn the tables on any neophyte quickly and take the spotlight off the guru's ego. Like: Who just now believed your words? Neo-Ads should know -- but often do not -- that only pure silence is the proper response to such questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
Yes, but he an enlightened fart. A fart flambé. --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 10:26 AM, sandiego108 wrote: And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Sal ...and Sal, drawn to the negative energy like a bee to honey... Dry up, you humorless old fart. Sal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
Intellectual clarity does not exist until after enlightenment, doncha know. And even then, it knows itself to be finite. --- Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj, General notes: 1. I'm not enlightened by any standard I know of, but I think I have intellectual clarity about the concepts of Advaita. I find most folks talking about Advaita to be off a bit and not understanding the incredibly fierce philosophy that Advaita presents. It took me many readings before I got it that I wasn't grokking silence, and that my ego was working against my understanding of it -- because Advaita is a mofo ego killer, though to be sure, the ego is not alive and cannot be found! 2. I've read a lot of the works of the neo-Ads. 3. I've read close to all of Ramana's and Nisargadatta's works. 4. I've read Ramana's Talks four full times -- taking up to a year to do so each time -- reading about 30 - 40 minutes per dayand thinking hard whenever the meaning of a sentence was not immediately obvious to me. I continue to browse it with satisfaction and resonance. 5. I've read Nisargadatta's I Am That at least two times and have browsed the book often enough to constitute another reading. 6. I think, for our purposes here, I have a solid education in Advaita, and think I could answer any question that these two Masters could put to me about their works. Not that I know all the Sanskrit words in the glossary, but that I understand the concepts they represent. And, do not think that I am saying that I could pull of wearing a dhoti and grabbing a rose with pinky petals and be a guru who spontaneously says the truth. I'm much more a writer who knows he needs to re-read and edit his words before he can be sure that they would resonate with Advaita to a strong degree. 7. I do not worship any master, nor do I think Ramana is operational except in a very special sense that I might not get around to explaining in this conversation. I'm all for worshiping if someone wants to do so, but to me, worshiping is bhakti, and it doesn't matter to me so much what the object of worship is, but the mental technique that one is using is all important; there's tons of methods for worship/prayer that work, but some are better than others, and some practitioners are far more adept than others. 8. I feel I have a very very strong intuition, but I have an equally long history of ignoring its red flag waving -- I frequently do something I know to be wrong. It is this intuition that is my alarm bell that rings when neo-Ads present themselves. Since I have an ego the size of the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters, I think I'm all set to recognize it in others, and if there is egoic attachment by this reckoning skill of mine, then I read their words with an extra sharp red pencil, because subtleties are the be all and end all of Advaita. Okay, now to your contributions below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Duveyoung wrote: The funniest thing to me is that no one here has yet convinced me that they grok Advaita enough to know what it is enough to accept or reject it. To reject neo-Advaitans is easypeasy if you don't know what you're talking about. It takes some very adroit observations to catch the neo-Advaitans being dissonant with the words of Ramana Maharshi or Nisargadatta Maharaj, but the very fact that language is being used can account for most of the errors of the neo-Ads. LOL. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have an ego, but Advaita's axioms clearly show that language cannot be expected to present the knowledge completely since it is dualistic, and many a language's grammar forces constructions that are incorrect but are nonetheless the closest that that language can get. Many languages have huge differences in how they view time and space for instance -- see S. I. Hayakawa's Language in Thought and Action's ideas about the Navajos' POV. Godel and quantum physics know this too. This sentence is false. for example, is beyond truth or falsity, yet it can be employed didactically just as math's imaginary numbers are a powerful tool for clarity. (Einstein would be nothing if not for Lorenz's contraction theorem's breakthrough use of imaginary numbers - e.g. the square root of minus one -- which had to be discovered before Einstein had the math to embody relativity.) I often find neo-Ad statements are peppered with syntax forced errors. Ramana is quite clear that a statement like I am that, is a case of one being made into three -- knower, knowing, known, and that this proves that the intellect cannot be expected to bring one to unity. The intellect takes one to a doorway, and the ego must be left behind at this point. I often find neo-Ads thinking egoically but also
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but he an enlightened fart. A fart flambé. http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/cza0143l.jpg --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 10:26 AM, sandiego108 wrote: And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) ...and Sal, drawn to the negative energy like a bee to honey... Dry up, you humorless old fart.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
From a bud, only a promise. Then a gentle opening: Rich blooming, bursting fragrance, The fulfillment of the center. --- Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj, General notes: 1. I'm not enlightened by any standard I know of, but I think I have intellectual clarity about the concepts of Advaita. I find most folks talking about Advaita to be off a bit and not understanding the incredibly fierce philosophy that Advaita presents. It took me many readings before I got it that I wasn't grokking silence, and that my ego was working against my understanding of it -- because Advaita is a mofo ego killer, though to be sure, the ego is not alive and cannot be found! 2. I've read a lot of the works of the neo-Ads. 3. I've read close to all of Ramana's and Nisargadatta's works. 4. I've read Ramana's Talks four full times -- taking up to a year to do so each time -- reading about 30 - 40 minutes per dayand thinking hard whenever the meaning of a sentence was not immediately obvious to me. I continue to browse it with satisfaction and resonance. 5. I've read Nisargadatta's I Am That at least two times and have browsed the book often enough to constitute another reading. 6. I think, for our purposes here, I have a solid education in Advaita, and think I could answer any question that these two Masters could put to me about their works. Not that I know all the Sanskrit words in the glossary, but that I understand the concepts they represent. And, do not think that I am saying that I could pull of wearing a dhoti and grabbing a rose with pinky petals and be a guru who spontaneously says the truth. I'm much more a writer who knows he needs to re-read and edit his words before he can be sure that they would resonate with Advaita to a strong degree. 7. I do not worship any master, nor do I think Ramana is operational except in a very special sense that I might not get around to explaining in this conversation. I'm all for worshiping if someone wants to do so, but to me, worshiping is bhakti, and it doesn't matter to me so much what the object of worship is, but the mental technique that one is using is all important; there's tons of methods for worship/prayer that work, but some are better than others, and some practitioners are far more adept than others. 8. I feel I have a very very strong intuition, but I have an equally long history of ignoring its red flag waving -- I frequently do something I know to be wrong. It is this intuition that is my alarm bell that rings when neo-Ads present themselves. Since I have an ego the size of the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters, I think I'm all set to recognize it in others, and if there is egoic attachment by this reckoning skill of mine, then I read their words with an extra sharp red pencil, because subtleties are the be all and end all of Advaita. Okay, now to your contributions below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Duveyoung wrote: The funniest thing to me is that no one here has yet convinced me that they grok Advaita enough to know what it is enough to accept or reject it. To reject neo-Advaitans is easypeasy if you don't know what you're talking about. It takes some very adroit observations to catch the neo-Advaitans being dissonant with the words of Ramana Maharshi or Nisargadatta Maharaj, but the very fact that language is being used can account for most of the errors of the neo-Ads. LOL. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have an ego, but Advaita's axioms clearly show that language cannot be expected to present the knowledge completely since it is dualistic, and many a language's grammar forces constructions that are incorrect but are nonetheless the closest that that language can get. Many languages have huge differences in how they view time and space for instance -- see S. I. Hayakawa's Language in Thought and Action's ideas about the Navajos' POV. Godel and quantum physics know this too. This sentence is false. for example, is beyond truth or falsity, yet it can be employed didactically just as math's imaginary numbers are a powerful tool for clarity. (Einstein would be nothing if not for Lorenz's contraction theorem's breakthrough use of imaginary numbers - e.g. the square root of minus one -- which had to be discovered before Einstein had the math to embody relativity.) I often find neo-Ad statements are peppered with syntax forced errors. Ramana is quite clear that a statement like I am that, is a case of one being made into three -- knower, knowing, known, and that this proves that the intellect cannot be expected to bring one to unity. The intellect takes one to a doorway, and the ego must be left behind at this point. I often find neo-Ads thinking egoically but also skilled
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do Duveyoung and Angela like using the n-word so much?
Vaj, I don't know how you got to thinking I'm okay with Afrocentrism being taught. It's a bunch of shit, but I just know that most dogmas are filled with errors, and that it is a merely matter of degree when comparing Afrocentrism with the dogma of Modern Science. Science is replete with beliefs that go unexamined and are as unfounded as even the worst Afrocentric delusions. Einstein wrote his famous letter to FDR about making the first atomic bomb. What religious belief did Einstein consider before he wrote that letter? When Fritz Haber invented a method for mass producing poisonous gas that had no use except for warfare -- what religious implications can be surmised from that act? Whatever it was that these two big brains said to themselves, how different is that from an Afrocentric persons saying they're psychic because their skin is black? Einstein said, Build the bomb, because I know the full measure of its impact. How's that for delusion? Einstein believed he'd be doing the world a solid by creating that bomb. Oppenheimer said, In some sort of crude sense which no vulgarity, no humor, no overstatement can quite extinguish, the physicists have known sin; and this is a knowledge which they cannot lose. To me, it's a hard question to approach when asked, For the good of all, for the betterment of the world, what would be worse, ten million more Afrocentrists in the world or another Einstein or Oppenheimer? It is one thing to peddle nonsense, it is quite another to open up Pandora's box. If one is going to chide an Afrocentrist, be sure to chide others who are far more dangerously deluded about their abilities to handle the truth. I'd say, spend your time debunking scientific elitism before smacking a bunch of bell-curve-losers for goofy notions. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Afrocentrism is no more or less ignorant than any of the beliefs of every religion on Earthincluding the secular religions of democracy, I'm a good guy, and What me worry. Well, it's not a religion, but it does sometimes impact it. For example, there are a lot of Egyptian cults in the black community (some which are actually quite interesting). I've met a lot of interesting people through them. Talk about the blind leading the blind is, well, spurious, when in fact every group of humans will use delusions for the social glue. Well, we shouldn't be bringing them into science, history, academia and our schools. It took centuries since the Enlightenment for science to build up the knowledge we have today. Can you imagine the disconnect some hard-working African-American student would have to endure if, for example, they raised their hand in a college biochemistry class and mentioned that melanin actually biochemically gave some people psychic abilities or faster reaction times? Or if they went to Egypt and in talking to Egyptians expressed their belief that Black African-Americans were their descendants? I have seen the latter, and it was not a pretty scene. But OTOH, I've sat in ritual spaces with Black Egyptian priestesses who did know what they doing and they were themselves awakening because of it. That is quite beautiful to see. Because of denial being the very fabric of all ideologies, I'm inclined to largely forgive Afrocentrism's motivations and take a step back before I chide its conclusions which are simply as skewed as, say, Fox News. Well I suggest you pickup Lefkowitz's book if it ever grabs your fancy. If having read that and you still want to see these myths being taught as facts to your kids at the HS or college level, then get back to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
You forgot to mention that Professor Van Dyke of Amsterdam is the brother of Dick Van Dyke, who played the nutty professor in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and the Old Excentric Grandfather in that movie is the father of his illigitimate child David Lynch, who's character Giacommetti in Twin Peaks was based on a real character who was in the CIA and a fanatic member of Scientology, which was founded by a rebel FreeMason who idolised Aleister Crowley. The plot thickens OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Oh leave Joerg alone. He's probably Swedish. The Stranglers--Sweden (funny stuff) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btJvIQcPlyg OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Rick Archer wrote: I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some people are full of hate. There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany. And I know Emanuel personally. Just looking into details of that message: It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices. I was there in Vlodrop, when he said: Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean to give it out cheap. Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is. Or think about, wether you accept people to really post anonymous about such matters. cheers joerg. Joerg: What would be the appropriate Vedic punishment? After all, we want to be in accord with natural law! We were thinking ghee-boarding may be the way the go, but you know us crazy Americans. Super Radiantly Yours, Vaj
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Off, that's the post of the week. Deep bow. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to mention that Professor Van Dyke of Amsterdam is the brother of Dick Van Dyke, who played the nutty professor in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and the Old Excentric Grandfather in that movie is the father of his illigitimate child David Lynch, who's character Giacommetti in Twin Peaks was based on a real character who was in the CIA and a fanatic member of Scientology, which was founded by a rebel FreeMason who idolised Aleister Crowley. The plot thickens OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:59 AM, authfriend wrote: And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) I'm glad you appreciate the humor here, Sal. I find it side-splitting, myself. Of course I do, Judy. Who could possibly take such nuttiness seriously? Glad you agree. :) I thought it was so cute how you pretended a post or two ago to be disgusted by the efforts of us Obama-detractors: Obama's detractors are just showing they'll say anything to try and take him down, basically doing McCain's work for him, which I have no doubt is exactly what Hill wants. Actually, though, Tarpley doesn't have a real positive view of McCain either. His prediction: A US attack on Iran occurs within six months after McCain's inauguration, followed by a likely escalation towards all-out thermonuclear confrontation with Moscow and Beijing. Martial law and dictatorship are imposed on the home front, and we discover that the potential of the 2008 party realignment has been aborted into dictatorship and world war. This is what it means to succumb to the siren song of the Obama propaganda machine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. But...but...but I don't *have* a sense of humor, according to some here. I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. Clearly, boo_lives takes them deadly seriously. Look at the energy he put into trying to rebut them!
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Book for Angela
Tarpley seems to have really gone off the deep end over Obama. BTW Angela, Judy didn't like Tarpley on 9-11 whom I quoted several times so why would she find him credible now? The crux of Tarpley's Obama rant (on his weekly radio show) is the Brzezinski connection as if Obama would be his puppet. Here's the link to Tarpley's show World Crisis Radio which is on at 11 AM PDT today (Saturday): http://www.gcnlive.com/Listen_Live.html Angela Mailander wrote: Thanks, Judy, but I'm so deeply gone into conspiracy theory that I had surmised that such must surely be surely the case. A real miracle at this time in planetary history, given all the garbage in every sector you can see? I implied as much when I said that the whole election process in this country is a show designed to convince us that we have a democracy--have you read Quigley? Ben Franklin was dead serious when, in answer to the question as to what kind of government they'd cooked up (behind closed doors, by the way), he said, A republic--if you can keep it. Given the nature of the Dao, keeping it is a self-contradictory impossibility. Or, maybe, he knew its nature very well, maybe he said it in an ironically loving undertone-a tone of Have fun dearest milch kine, and enjoy your growth, pruning time is coming soon enough--and, believe me, in spite of all appearances, I do worship your ass for bringing down the milk so sweet--and the blood. Trust us to manage well enough so that there will be a resurrection. Insurrection is a whole n'other game plan. Even then, you gotta ask, Whence inspiration?-
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
Peter wrote: And to add to the mix: Ramana made it very clear that Atma Vichara is only for a very select few who have done preliminary work (i.e., yoga)and have sattvic intellects. If you attempt atma vichara and you don't awaken, you have to hit the asana mat again! This rather important point seems to be missing from most neoavaitins rap. Peter, I'd like to see what words of Ramana would make a case for your above statement. Ramana, it seems, was himself a case of someone born close to enlightenment. He probably could have gotten free by merely eating cherry Pop Tarts and smoking beedis. He does acknowledge that the nervous system must be refined for atma vichara to do the final work, but he encouraged all to try it, and if that didn't get huge results, he contended that that practice would culture the nervous system such that eventually it would free one. My take is that Ramana said that bhakti or asanas or pranayama were all good techniques for refining one's ability to attend to subtlety, that is, preparing one for the doing of atma vichara, but I'm thinking that he never presented atma vichara as only something for the very advance practitioner to attempt and, say, a waste of time for others. So, I'm hoping you have something definitive up your sleeve to correct me if I'm wrong on this take, because it is quite an important issue, but surely you know that Nisargadatta is far more informal about this issue and considered Who am I? a very powerful technique that the masses should use. Not the asking of the question, but the attending of the self that it leads to. Yet, Nisargadatta did pujas daily in his upper room packed with believers. He wasn't afraid of multiple approaches to freedom. I personally think that practicing TM is a wonderful method of culturing the nervous system that is equal to worship or asanas or pranayama. Here's a very strange thing: I think the TM siddhis offer one an obvious stance about atma vichara and the masses: after only a few months of practicing TM, one is allowed to learn the siddhis, and the technique requires one to return to the self after the sutra is expressed. Only atma vichara can return one to the self -- so right there's TM saying the masses can do atma vichara. I was PROFOUNDLY disturbed when I got my first siddhi instruction and was told to return to the self -- FUCK! Wasn't that the goal of goals, and here it was supposed to be something we all could do well enough to practice a siddhi? I was angry at what I considered then and now to be a huge change in the TMO's dogma. The thing I most rely on about this issue is the omnipresence of self. Ask anyone if they're alive, here, now, real -- anyone knows that they exist. That can only be because of a basic human ability to do atma vichara. One knows one is sentient, and it cannot be gainsaid. Are you here? You just did atma vichara in my book. To me, the big challenge of atma vichara is that practicing it results in nothing being experienced. That is: no thing as an object of consciousness can be found, but the experiencer is nonetheless there. This is goal of TM -- wanting the mantra to be finally dropped and to transcend. This nothingness, this silence sought, this quiet witness cannot be attended to, so one only knows that doing atma vichara is successful if one gets zilch!!! This zilchness experience negatively reinforces the human delusion of causality, see? One cannot get to the bottom of the lotus stalk, but one IS that bottom all the time. Only by ceasing ALL DOINGNESS does the doer stand clear. Like that. Okay, let's see if anyone can tell me where I'm confused above. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Curtis, I just remembered that I want to say I'm sorry to you for dissing your livelihood awhile back-- playing the blues. I remember the context and what drove me to criticize your livelihood, your path, and regardless it was kind of a fucked up thing to do in retrospect. Egg on my face- lol. I find you to be a real and genuine person-- good meat so to speak. Anyway, I owe you that one. Hope you are enjoying the hell out of playing your blues, and keeping it real, as I am sure you are. Maybe one day I'll get to DC again and try to find you on the streets of Alexandria. Thanks Jim, I appreciate that very much. It did give me a chance to get on my high horse about the universality of the blues, so I can't really complain too much! Plus with my advanced case of Vitiligo (think Michael Jackson disease without the boy cravings) a lot of people don't even know I am black. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On May 3, 2008, at 9:34 AM, authfriend wrote: Here's a book you'll want to read, Angela: Obama: The Post-Modern Coup, by Webster Griffin Tarpley (leading 9/11 Truth movement activist). Here's the description from Lulu.com: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short- circuit normal politics and seize power. And speaking of humor, here comes Judy, roaring back from her sojourn in the wilderness, full of laughter, good cheer, and the spice of life. :) Forget her good cheer, try total lunacity! To believe the above manchurian quote shows a complete break with reality. Let's look at each assertion: Personality - Obama's books, written by himself, show a uniquely thoughtful integrated personality esp. compared to most politicians; Megalomaniac - actually the opposite personality esp. when compared to Clintons; Intelligence agencies with fake polls - this is just too nutty to even respond to; Mobs of adolescents - Obama consistently draws the largest mixed aged audiences of any audience, this was certainly true of ffld last summer; Super-rich backers - the facts shows Obama clearly has the broadest range of low donor support among all candidates; Media Hysteria - since overtaking Hillary in all polls Obama has had the sharpest media criticism esp. the nonsense of the past month.
[FairfieldLife] Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo
Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay MOVIE TRAILER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w3ZxcT2Lhkfeature=related ...The vast majority of people now see Guantánamo as so illegitimate that it approaches absurdity. The man held for five years because of his friendship with a suicide bomber (who was alive and well in Germany); the Bosnian Red Crescent worker asked to respond to charges that he associated with a known Al Qaeda member (without being told that person's name--because it was classified); the government lawyer who claimed in court that a little old lady in Switzerland whose charitable donation is unknowingly diverted to Al Qaeda could be detained as an enemy combatant--all of these may one day make the unwieldy Guantanámoesque replace Kafkaesque in the lexicon. The movie's marketers would never have risked alienating a significant chunk of their audience by putting the word Guantánamo in the title if there weren't a broad public consensus that the place is synonymous with injustice. But the use of the prison as a metaphor for legalistic absurdity and government incompetence is only a small piece of the reality at Guantánamo. And this is the really telling thing about the title: America is not ready for Harold and Kumar Go to Abu Ghraib. Guantánamo can be treated as a punch line in part because it is seen by Americans as primarily an abstract issue about executive abuse of power instead of being about real people. [...] At one point in the movie, as a buffoonish Homeland Security official tries to return Harold and Kumar to Guantánamo following their escape, the head of the NSA snaps, These kids are obviously innocent It's people like you who make the rest of the world think Americans are stupid! The audience in the theater I saw the movie in cheered the sentiment. We in the human rights community often struggle with whether to criticize the Bush Administration on moral grounds or for its inefficacy at catching actual terrorists. Sometimes, the broadest public disdain for immoral government practices can be evoked by showing that they don't work as advertised to keep us safe. But often that approach loses sight of the most uncomfortable part of the truth. The movie is very funny. Nothing about the real place is. ~~ Shayana Kadidal in The Nation: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080519/kadidal
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. I'm not exactly the deepest thinker in political matters. I'm still stuck on evaluating if Obama is black enough to win the bluesman vote. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. But...but...but I don't *have* a sense of humor, according to some here. I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. Clearly, boo_lives takes them deadly seriously. Look at the energy he put into trying to rebut them!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
On May 3, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: Yes, but he an enlightened fart. A fart flambé. LOL Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. But...but...but I don't *have* a sense of humor, according to some here. I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. Clearly, boo_lives takes them deadly seriously. Look at the energy he put into trying to rebut them! what i take seriously is that there are people so out of touch that they would consider them revelations. noticed that the book also claims obama is the favorite of the chicago school of economics, well that makes sense, he's from chicago. what a joke to think the chicago school economists favor obama, they're on tv constantly knocking him, he's the opposite of everything they're about. wall street financiers? they're ok with OB, but billary has spend incredible energy the past 16 yrs making that source of money their main support and they have that locked up. Ford and Carnegie foundations? what a laugh thinking they're some kind of shadowy big players in US politics. they probably gave some grant to support his community service work.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. But...but...but I don't *have* a sense of humor, according to some here. I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. Clearly, boo_lives takes them deadly seriously. Look at the energy he put into trying to rebut them! what i take seriously is that there are people so out of touch that they would consider them revelations. You haven't even read the book!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. But...but...but I don't *have* a sense of humor, according to some here. I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. Clearly, boo_lives takes them deadly seriously. Look at the energy he put into trying to rebut them! It appears that the author is using political satire to get his points across. Its like reporting on the radio that the Martians are coming!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. But...but...but I don't *have* a sense of humor, according to some here. I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. Clearly, boo_lives takes them deadly seriously. Look at the energy he put into trying to rebut them! what i take seriously is that there are people so out of touch that they would consider them revelations. You haven't even read the book! your summary was more than enough. not really into crazed lyndon larouche conspiracies. the obama is a manchurian candidate meme is being propagated by the far right wingnuts like coulter et al and now consciously taken up by clinton's camp as well, though usually it's to REVEAL that obama is really a brainwashed muslim, not a brainwashed new world orderite. but it's the same meme that's going to continue through Nov and people like tarpley who purposely play into this meme deserve to be ignored so we can have a sane election, not more propaganda about muslim-elitist-terrorist-communist obama.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. But...but...but I don't *have* a sense of humor, according to some here. I mean, this election is Serious Business. You take lightly these revelations about Obama at your peril. Clearly, boo_lives takes them deadly seriously. Look at the energy he put into trying to rebut them! It appears that the author is using political satire to get his points across. Its like reporting on the radio that the Martians are coming! Who, Tarpley? Nosireebob, he's deadly serious too, about both Obama and 9/11.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip You haven't even read the book! your summary was more than enough. Wasn't my summary, FWIW. But if you haven't read the book, how do you know he doesn't provide solid *support* for what he says? the obama is a manchurian candidate meme is being propagated by the far right wingnuts like coulter et al and now consciously taken up by clinton's camp as well, though usually it's to REVEAL that obama is really a brainwashed muslim, not a brainwashed new world orderite. Oh, really? Taken up by Clinton's camp? I don't suppose you'd like to provide us with a few examples, would you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...people like tarpley who purposely play into this meme deserve to be ignored so we can have a sane election... When speaking of the United States of America, sane election is an oxymoron.
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You took the words right outa my mouth. I'm sure Judy still believes in sane elections, though. --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...people like tarpley who purposely play into this meme deserve to be ignored so we can have a sane election... When speaking of the United States of America, sane election is an oxymoron. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...people like tarpley who purposely play into this meme deserve to be ignored so we can have a sane election... When speaking of the United States of America, sane election is an oxymoron. Especially these two year marathons they've turned into. Enough to burn out the most ardent politico.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a bud, only a promise. Then a gentle opening: Rich blooming, bursting fragrance, The fulfillment of the center. Was someone talking about the yonified field a few posts back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. cheers joerg. Yes Joerg, I'm with you on this entirely. Mr. Rick Archer clearly should be brought up for charges of disorderly and dishonerable conduct on the internet for allowing such spurious accusations on his forum as these accussations against a Raja who so clearly has his fingers on the pulse of things. Even if they are from Reuters. It is just contemptible of all decency what things Rick Archer allows on this FairfieldLife forum. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
Exactly. --- lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a bud, only a promise. Then a gentle opening: Rich blooming, bursting fragrance, The fulfillment of the center. Was someone talking about the yonified field a few posts back. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had failed was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told that maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by teaching meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure we kept prices so high no one would learn. Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to have a trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or we'll see if he's lighter than a duck Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I got better Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a government plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had some help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier. -- ends Hey Guy, Nice piece of satirical work. I checked the Reuters website to see if this article was present in there. I could not find it. So, as everyone suspects, your article is a piece of fiction. You got us thinking about this one. JR
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. cheers joerg. Yes Joerg, I'm with you on this entirely. Mr. Rick Archer clearly should be brought up for charges of disorderly and dishonerable conduct on the internet for allowing such spurious accusations on his forum as these accussations against a Raja who so clearly has his fingers on the pulse of things. Even if they are from Reuters. It is just contemptible of all decency what things Rick Archer allows on this FairfieldLife forum. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF Well, Raja-ji Emanuel certainly has his finger on the pulse of something, but it ain't reality! Oh! Will I lose my dome badge for that comment? Wait a second I don't have a dome badge. Phew, that was close. Jai Guru Dev. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] WHAT Crime? What statue were? : Raja Schiffgens identified as gover...
Rick so just watch enjoy the readings with humor, As I do. No crime statue identified by citation innocent till proved differently by his 12 peers what jurisdiction? LET FREE speech rein on the net as well as in all lands freedom of cartoons as well. In a message dated 5/3/2008 4:50:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what. I think, the message with the number 175 678, stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent, is really crime. cheers joerg. Yes Joerg, I'm with you on this entirely. Mr. Rick Archer clearly should be brought up for charges of disorderly and dishonerable conduct on the internet for allowing such spurious accusations on his forum as these accussations against a Raja who so clearly has his fingers on the pulse of things. Even if they are from Reuters. It is just contemptible of all decency what things Rick Archer allows on this FairfieldLife forum. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF Well, Raja-ji Emanuel certainly has his finger on the pulse of something, but it ain't reality! Oh! Will I lose my dome badge for that comment? Wait a second I don't have a dome badge. Phew, that was close. Jai Guru Dev. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301)
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until I got to the end I thought this was true. Now it seems to be someone having nothing better to do... Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was limited to low level operatives. This phrase tipped me off: penetration was limited to low level operatives. The rumor I have heard dating back 30+ years is that a CIA operative at the highest level of the TMO outed themselves to MMY who appeared unconcerned at that time. Certainly, the security measures we went through during my Yogic FLying block seemed designed by someone who actually had USED security measures in a real life setting (speaking as a former military person with an inactive NATO Secret clearance), so I realized the second it was lowest level that this was bogus. Besides, teh CIA/FBI would easily be able to insert someone into Raja status had they so desired. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. IMO, one shouldn't be using a real name of a news agency in this kind of stuff. I'd prefer e.g. Beuters, Royters, Rutters, Reuterz, or somesuch... Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is painfully obvious that we've been duped just enough to make the thing real to TMers and grab them only to then dump them into their own pile of steaming assumptions. On April Fool's Day, this would have fooled no one, right? I think satire has the right to use some dirty tricks like misusing Reuters' name, but yeah, the writer is flirting with slander. It was uncomfortable as a gotcha for me, because, well, I was done got for a few sentences and had had my blood chemicals change with a rush of what on Earth can the movement do about this scandal? So my anti-TMO emotions were triggered, and I was petardized. I didn't like it, but I bow to the achievement. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. IMO, one shouldn't be using a real name of a news agency in this kind of stuff. I'd prefer e.g. Beuters, Royters, Rutters, Reuterz, or somesuch... Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
You mean the newt wasn't a dead give-away? --- Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is painfully obvious that we've been duped just enough to make the thing real to TMers and grab them only to then dump them into their own pile of steaming assumptions. On April Fool's Day, this would have fooled no one, right? I think satire has the right to use some dirty tricks like misusing Reuters' name, but yeah, the writer is flirting with slander. It was uncomfortable as a gotcha for me, because, well, I was done got for a few sentences and had had my blood chemicals change with a rush of what on Earth can the movement do about this scandal? So my anti-TMO emotions were triggered, and I was petardized. I didn't like it, but I bow to the achievement. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ wrote: Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. IMO, one shouldn't be using a real name of a news agency in this kind of stuff. I'd prefer e.g. Beuters, Royters, Rutters, Reuterz, or somesuch... Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Book for Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humor. Precisely targeted humor. With Angela's love of conspiracy theories involving strings behind the throne, it was very funny and I hope Angela herself is having a good laugh. Welcome back Judy. Your insight is keen. It was funny. Your message reminded me of a poem Curtis, just never forget the garland of garlic and have a wooden stake just in case. ;-) Rumi - Guest House This being human is a guest house Every morning a new arrival. A joy, a depression, a meanness, some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor. Welcome and entertain them all! Even if they are a crowd of sorrows, who violently sweep your house empty of its furniture, still treat each guest honorably. He may be clearing you out for some new delight. The dark thought, the shame, the malice, meet them at the door laughing, and invite them in. Be grateful for whoever comes, because each has been sent as a guide from beyond.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is painfully obvious that we've been duped just enough to make the thing real to TMers and grab them only to then dump them into their own pile of steaming assumptions. Fucking idiot. I'm a real TM'r and I knew it was fake in the first 2 sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow anti-TM crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for joerg, who is Swedish, so that doesn't count). Mostly because the anti- TM'rs are so desperate for fodder for their gossip-starved pea-brains that they hook on anything with their slimy talons hoping for some dry rotting carrion to chew on. What a bunch of meatheads. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCrazy: wife a c*nt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: It's not an internet rumor. It's from a book called The Real McCain: Why Conservatives Don't Trust Him and Why Independents Shouldn't by Cliff Schecter. Here's the passage from the book: Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, You're getting a little thin up there. McCain's face reddened, and he responded, At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c---. McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days. http://tinyurl.com/48r4ar I'm not a big fan of McCain's but I gotta tell ya that if that's the worst they can come up with to show the guy's downside Unfortunately, McInsane is also a complete idiot. OffWorld In my opinion, if we think Bush's view of permanent war is disturbing, it is nothing when seen against what McCain has in mind- we are currently looking at nothing but a skirmish or two in comparison. It doesn't matter what McCain thinks, if he is president he will be a laughing stock and a lame-duck president from day one, and he will bow to pressure, and his one saving grace is that he might actually see reason and change his views once in power. He is the biggest flip- flopper of all time. He will never be president though, so no worries. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
Off, You're hardly worth a post, but just to go public with my actual performance, I knew the article was hinky by the end of the third sentence. So I guess you're smarter than me for having gotten it after only two sentences. And, again, to all who are so unaware of those who are mentally deficient and their challenges, remember that the words idiot, moron and imbecile refer to definite I.Q. ranges. Whenever someone calls someone an idiot, they are using a scientific designation such that it becomes an n-word for that group of folks. This is your sin, Off, but I'm content to let God explain it to you as you're about to leave the body on your deathbed and going south soon. And, as a meat robot, let me inform you that you too are someone with a meathead. If exTMers were/are slow to pick up on the satire, it's entirely understandable given the bizarre nature of the TMO todaysomething which seems to have you as fooled as the article fooled some of us for a few seconds.so whose the dumber? Me for a few seconds, or you for the rest of your life? I'll take my limitations any day. And finally, go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick, cus, I did my time in the chair, and I'M A TMER more than you are apparently, because at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture and retain and expand my New Age values that had gotten me into TM in the first place; while you seem to have found a way to look in the mirror despite your universally decried by FFLers personalitytry to find a single poster here who likes you and quote them about what they think of your personality that you'd be okay with. You'll fail. I'd rather be an idiot in the official sense than be imprisoned in your POV. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is painfully obvious that we've been duped just enough to make the thing real to TMers and grab them only to then dump them into their own pile of steaming assumptions. Fucking idiot. I'm a real TM'r and I knew it was fake in the first 2 sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow anti-TM crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for joerg, who is Swedish, so that doesn't count). Mostly because the anti- TM'rs are so desperate for fodder for their gossip-starved pea-brains that they hook on anything with their slimy talons hoping for some dry rotting carrion to chew on. What a bunch of meatheads. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Michelle Obama: Barack has hit boiling point
Michelle Obama: Barack has hit boiling pointBy Tim Shipman in Raleigh, North Carolina Last Updated: 11:50PM BST 03/05/2008 Obama lifted the lid on the irritation felt by the leading Democrat candidate for the White House at the way anti-American outbursts by his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, have dogged his campaign. He is said to be itching to turn all his fire on John McCain, the Republican candidate, who is benefiting most from Mr Obama's protracted tussle with Hillary Clinton. Mrs Obama told a rally in Durham, North Carolina, on Friday that only her husband's desire to change US politics had helped him to control his feelings: Barack is always thinking three steps ahead – what do we need to do to make change. Her husband was thinking I can't let my ego, my anger, my frustration get in the way of the ultimate goal, she said. Barack has been characterised as many things that have nothing to do with who he is. Senator Obama has known the Rev Wright for more than 20 years, but he was forced to end their friendship last week over repeated claims by his pastor that America was to blame for the 9/11 attacks and for spreading the Aids virus. New polls show the affair may have derailed Mr Obama's chances of sealing a double win in Tuesday's North Carolina and Indiana primary elections, which might have ended Mrs Clinton's hopes. Instead, in just a week, Mrs Clinton has reversed a narrow Obama lead in Indiana and is closing fast in North Carolina, where Mr Obama had hoped for a convincing win. A poll on Saturday found 58 per cent of voters believe his de-nunciation of the Rev Wright was merely an act of political expediency. The Rasmussen survey found 56 per cent of voters thought it likely that Obama shares some of his pastor's anti-American views. A senior Democrat strategist privy to Obama's campaign said: He's sick of the battle against Clinton. He wants to get stuck into McCain. His people have had to remind him that this thing isn't over yet and he needs to focus and put her away. In a press conference on Friday, Mr Obama conceded: We've had a rough couple of weeks, I won't deny that. I don't think what happened with Rev Wright was helpful. While Mr Obama retains an almost unassailable three-figure lead in pledged delegates from the round of primary elections, he still needs a strong showing on Tuesday, when the two largest states remaining in the Democratic contest vote, in order to slow Mrs Clinton's momentum – and with it her claims that she is emerging at the 11th hour as the stronger candidate. He needs to split the remaining half-dozen states that have yet to vote with the former First Lady, and to win the backing of at least a third of the remaining 300 undeclared super-delegates to secure the nomination. In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, his chief strategist David Axelrod said the trickle of super-delegate endorsements would grow this week. He said Mr Obama had garnered the support of 100 more super-delegates since early February, and added: You're going to see a lot more of that soon. Mr Axelrod said Mr Obama had been using games of basketball to let off steam. He said the Wright affair had undoubtedly had some impact on voters, but claimed his candidate was ready for the fight ahead. He has enjoyed the chance to shoot a little ball. I think we're in a good groove, he said. And in a dig at Mrs Clinton and her husband Bill, he said: We knew from the start of this race that we were taking on the most formidable machine in Democratic politics. It's in full display right now. She's tenacious and she can multiply her reach because her husband is working just as hard as either of the candidates. In contrast with the Clintons, Mrs Obama said: We were taught that you don't rip your opponents to pieces, you don't leave them on the roadside. Voters and super-delegates canvassed by The Sunday Telegraph at campaign events in North Carolina agreed that the Rev Wright controversy would damage Mr Obama's chances on Tuesday. Jerry Meek, the Democratic state party chairman, said: It will have an impact. Voters are talking about it. Senator Obama has addressed the issue very forcefully but he's been thrown off message for a week. Kevin Johnson, 36, a white pastor from Boone, said: Obama is getting an increasingly bad press over the Rev Wright thing. I never make political remarks from the pulpit. It's just not appropriate. Jon Violette, 49, who works in advertising, described Mr Obama's problem as a godsend for Mrs Clinton. He said: People are getting
[FairfieldLife] Global oneness
Is Living in Oneness Possible? Holy Lay Monk, Sri Raniji Kumra Offers Solutions for Globally Balanced InfrastructuresGlobal oneness and permanentsolutions for more balanced global infrastructures is possible thoughthe Oneness Blessing, a spiritual solution supported by over 14million people worldwide, whihc ends inner conflict and thesubsequent struggle, strife, and conflict that takes hold in theworld around us www.onenessmovement.org. This blessing slows down the mind, bringing it towards the peaceand serenity of Oneness. Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB)May 2, 2008 -- American statistics on poverty, crime, and disease areparticularly shocking for a nation with the advanced civilization,technology, science and medicine, that defines us. But that's onlythe tip of the iceberg - the plague of unhappiness and unhealthinessalso shows up in the forms of health problems, drug and alcoholabuse, family dysfunction, and the rise of disturbing trends amongstthe youth - the recent school shootings being an example. Nowadays, it seems as if almost everyone has a strong sense of loneliness and is seeking greater meaning in life. Often, those living under the same roof cannot relate meaningfully to each other because conflict has taken the place of compassion, togetherness, and understanding. In relationships across all spectra of society, the epidemic of pain, frustration, insecurity, doubt, and fear is tearing the social and family fabrics apart. The result has been a breakdown of the most basic units of our society, families and communities. It seems that over the last few decades, people have been existing, rather than living. Until we realize that the suffering of any being whomsoever, has a detrimental effect on the well-being of all others, the condition of our world will not change. Living in Oneness is possible. Throughthe Oneness Blessing, a spiritual solution that ends inner conflictand the subsequent struggle, strife, and conflict that takes hold inthe world around us www.onenessmovement.org. This blessing slows down the mind, bringing it towards the peaceand serenity of Oneness. The active mind does not let people be inthe now; rather, it keeps the attention in the past or thefuture, robbing each one of us of the reality of now. There has beenmuch discussion about silencing the mind by great spiritualiststhroughout time, from Gautama Buddha and St Francis of Assisi toMaharishi Mahesh Yogi. The Oneness Blessing is an answer to the urgent call of suffering hearts throughout the world; a solution to the urgent need of our times. This blessing is a transfer of Divine Energy and Intelligence, which begins a process of awakening in the individual. A positive neurobiological change is fostered in the brain, promoting a shift in perception, greater peace of mind, and an expansive flowering of the heart. Divine energy transmissions and blessings rejuvenate the mind, body and spirit; and, most importantly, begin to awaken the Higher Self within. Each person spontaneously begins to discover why each of us is always looking and searching for peace, joy, and bliss in life. We teach people how to discover the mind's habitual involvement with the content rather than the underlying reality of experiences; and how to uncover the tricks of the mind, which tend to take us away from Truth and into the maze of our own illusions. These Energy Blessings are the gift of Sri Bhagavan and Shri Amma, who launched the Oneness Movement in India in 1991 to alleviate the suffering of mankind and create an enlightened collective consciousness - a world of Oneness. So much suffering - every type of suffering - and all caused by the disconnection of practical life with the spiritual content of life, which is abundantly available within each and every individual; yet mostly ignored, denied, and forgotten. It is inspiring to see Oprah Winfrey advocating Eckhart Tolle and Marianne Williamson's teachings about spirituality, faith and healing which lead to ultimate oneness and a new-age. I believe that the ultimate solution to world problems is to make peace within ourselves; only then will we have a peaceful world. States Sri Raniji Kumra, Leader of The Oneness Movement North America and Canada. The Solution is the Evolution of Human Consciousness Awakening How can we change the world if we cannot change ourselves? The aspirations of, a better worldor a golden age, require a worldwide awakening. But thiscan only be accomplished by awakening the individuals everywhere,regardless of religion, culture, skin color, etc. Awakeningmust begin at the individual level. We cannot change the world if wedo not change ourselves first. Brian D. McClure creator of TheUniversal Flag, (which represents the oneness and interdependence ofeveryone and everything http://www.universalflag.com) says, For years I donated money to feed and shelter thehomeless. I felt that I was doing my part for those in need. Thetruth is, I remained
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off, You're hardly worth a post, but just to go public with my actual performance, I knew the article was hinky by the end of the third sentence. So I guess you're smarter than me for having gotten it after only two sentences. And, again, to all who are so unaware of those who are mentally deficient and their challenges, remember that the words idiot, moron and imbecile refer to definite I.Q. ranges. Whenever someone calls someone an idiot, they are using a scientific designation such that it becomes an n-word for that group of folks. idiot is a descriptive term for those who are of obvious slow mental capabilities but profess to be smart...ie. the fundamentalist Anti-TM'rs here. everyone knows that. This is your sin, Off, but I'm content to let God explain it to you Wow, what a nut. God??? WTF?? ! You wouldn't know God if it kracked your ass with 2x4. Don't talk to me about god, you haven't got a clue what god is. Only idiots have to believe in god. Anyways, the rest of your pathetic lecture is not worth more than a speed-reading and delete, because you know that the embarrassingly dense anti-TM crowd are the ones that believed it the longest Mostly because the anti-TM'rs are so desperate for fodder for their gossip-starved pea-brains that they hook on anything with their slimy talons hoping for some dry rotting carrion to chew on. What a bunch of meatheads. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Superdelegate Count
Who Backs Whom The race for Democratic superdelegates reached a milestone this week, when Barack Obama pulled even with Hillary Clinton in the battle for House and Senate support. As of Friday, they had 97 lawmakers each, while 92 remain uncommitted. Somepatterns are obvious. Clinton dominates with female members ofCongress, with 36 endorsements to Obama's 17, with 11 uncommitted.Obama is backed by 23 members of the Congressional Black Caucus, while Clinton has 15 CBC supporters, with threestill uncommitted. Nearlyhalf of Clinton's endorsements, or 46 total, represent three states:New York, New Jersey and California. Obama's support is moregeographically diverse, with over a third coming from states west ofthe Mississippi River. Onecurious trend is the large number of Geoff Garin clients who have endorsed Obama. Garin, president of PeterD. Hart Research Associates, a leading polling firm, became a keypart of Clinton's message team with the demotion of Mark Penn in April, and it has polled for her campaign since March. Inthe weeks since, quite a few Garin clients signed up with the otherteam, including Sen. Robert Casey (Pa.) and Reps. Lois Capps (Calif.), Baron P. Hill (Ind.) and David E. Price (N.C.). Oklahoma Gov. Brad Henry also endorsed Obama in April. In fact, most of Garin'spolitical clients listed on his firm's Web site are either with Obamaor are uncommitted. Onlyone, North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley, has declared support for Clinton in recent weeks,although Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear, another Garin client, is believed to be leaning inClinton's direction. Two lopsided categories show members who won their seats in the big Democratic sweep of 2006, and the most vulnerable Democrats on 2008 tickets. Nearly half of these lawmakers remain uncommitted, but those who have picked candidates prefer Obama. One Democrat who fitsboth categories, Indiana's Hill, signed on with the senator fromIllinois even though he's the underdog in Hill's conservative district. Hill was lured in part by the thousands of new studentvoters the Obama campaign has registered on the Indiana University campus in Bloomington. Freshmen Among freshman House and Senate members, the following are with Clinton: Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.) and Reps. Michael Arcuri (N.Y.), Yvette D. Clarke (N.Y.), Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), John Hall (N.Y.), Joe Sestak (Pa.) and Betty Sutton (Ohio). And here's Obama's freshman lineup: Sens. Robert P. Casey Jr. (Pa.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) and Claire McCaskill (Mo.) and Reps. Bruce Braley (Iowa), Julia Carson (Ind.), Kathy Castor (Fla.), Stephen I. Cohen (Tenn.), Phil Hare (Ill.), Baron Hill (Ind.), Paul W. Hodes (N.H.), Hank Johnson (Ga.), Steve Kagen (Wis.), Dave Loebsack (Iowa), Christopher S. Murphy (Conn.), Patrick J. Murphy (Pa.), Ed Perlmutter (Colo.), Carol Shea-Porter (N.H.), Tim Walz (Minn.), Peter Welch (Vt.) and John Yarmuth (Ky.). Vulnerables Clinton has signed up just two lawmakers -- Gillibrand and Sestak -- who aretargeted by Republicans in 2008. Obama has gained support from six vulnerables: Reps. John Barrow (Ga.), Melissa Bean (Ill.), Hill, Christopher Murphy (Conn.), Patrick Murphy (Pa.) and Shea-Porter. These vulnerables remain uncommitted: Sen. Mary Landrieu (La.) and Reps. Nancy Boyda (Kan.), Chris Carney (Pa.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Gabrielle Giffords (Ariz.), Nick Lampson (Tex.), Tim Mahoney (Fla.), Jim Marshall (Ga.), Harry E. Mitchell (Ariz.), Ciro D. Rodriguez (Tex.) and Zack Space (Ohio). Uncommitted Foursenators elected in 2006 remain neutral: Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Benjamin L. Cardin (Md.), Jon Tester (Mont.) and James Webb (Va.). And these 2006 House members are uncommitted: Boyda (Kan.), Carney (Pa.), Courtney (Conn.), Donnelly (Ind.), Ellsworth (Ind.), Giffords (Ariz.), Hirono (Hawaii), Klein (Fla.), Lampson(Tex.), Mahoney (Fla.), McNerney (Calif.), Mitchell (Ariz.),Rodriguez (Tex.), Sarbanes (Md.), Shuler (N.C.) and Wilson (Ohio). Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] 'May the Best Voice Win!'
Hillsborough, N.C. NORTH CAROLINA is proud of sending into American life so many of its most beautiful voices: Thelonious Monk, Ava Gardner, Nina Simone, a passel of garrulous novelists, James Taylor, Edward R. Murrow. Not a bad list. But lately we’ve felt crowded by all the performer-politicos auditioning here. Our being eloquence-exporters raises local standards for outsiders’ arias. To make your presidential agenda seem a cause, press mere speech into full song! A tall order. I’ve attended many a primary shout-out. Here are a few jotted moral-vocal reviews: Why, just last week, while out for my daily constitutional, I passed the home plate of our Little League park and found it lightning-bugged with cameras. Yes, among spring’s first green, I heard one husky baritone and there, in the back of a blue pickup gummed with Hillary Clinton stickers, stood her husband. You remember the former president? Sure you do. Four hundred of my fellow citizens felt flattered into assembling. Schools let out so students could do reports. Listening to his rasped spiel, you find it impossible to blame the man, for anything — at least while he’s here. His voice gets you into a headlock, then Dutch-rubs you into loving him. He alternates between “aw, shucks” and those public-policy stats he aurally cooks into piping-hot chicken pot pies, enough for all. His pickup podium sits parked at home base, an American flag decorates the backstop. Most folks don’t look good under these conditions. But this man in gray (Armani?) stands trim and tall; he understands how to be most utterly at home here. While praising his wife’s “growth,” he lifts one shoe — like Porter Wagoner leaning on some hay bale as he strums an Opry spiritual. Foot propped on the truck’s ledge, an ex-president tilts forward. And out of him springs basso-profundo facts-figures (no notes, no sheet-music consulted). Good sense, it spills our way like straw turned gold. But he himself is not actually running, is he? Still, he rates an A (alas). His wife is running. Next day, Mrs. Clinton’s event proves staged to perfection. True, her starter notes strike one as Midwestern-student-council sharp. Her peach-toned pantsuit at first looks a wee bit Haz-Mat orange. But give her three minutes and Senator Clinton’s bright hard mezzo asserts its raw forward energy. A force, maybe not of Mozartian crystal-springs talent but surely revealing a titanic Beethoven will. Her speech proves as swift as it is friendly. Half-bawdy, she laughs at the unfairness of her needing more time to get camera-ready than do her male competitors. Unbelievably, Senator Clinton shows no exhaustion. This speech might’ve started her campaign a full 18 months ago. If her factoids more resemble USA Today pie charts than her husband’s baked-goods stories, she hits only salient points. I want her to handle my finances. She reminds me of my tightly buttoned secretly sexy favorite fourth-grade teacher, one whose lessons tasted medicinal going down but have stayed right with me these Ice Ages later. B+ (excellent diction, citizenship, cursive). Now we head, thundering with 20,000 other love-struck souls, to the one stadium big enough to hold Barack Obama’s performance energy. I’m nervous as I enter Chapel Hill’s basketball Valhalla, the Dean (Smith) Dome. Am I about to sing-speak-preach? This is the most perfectly racially integrated crowd I’ve ever been part of. Average age? Twenty-eight. I become that young myself. But three hours is forever amid hot-dog and T-shirt vendors. Still, I wait. This is A+ history. After an eternity of introducers introducing introducers, Senator Obama hops up those stage steps, a semaphore for “youth.” He’s elongated-sanctified as any El Greco saint. White shirt, his usual ice-blue tie, you guess he’ll heat up soon. We’re finally in for a little evangelical preaching worthy of this dark hour in American life. We keel forward, ready to re-love our country through him. Is he fatigued? And we aren’t? He puts in his full 40 minutes. He punches a clock. That clock is 20,000 souls he knew he had already. We’re people who left work early, paid costly sitters, parked a mile away to hear one clarion goose-bumping grace note from him. Is he smart? Yes. Tall? Check. Heat? Sixty-eight degrees. We sit in his peanut gallery waiting to jump up and scream ourselves hoarse with a backlog of “Amens.” We’ve come for that. We never get it. His attitude, as a performer, as a voice for justice and reason and peace, tonight seems that of a calm if besieged martyr. At times he sounds a wifely tiredness; the old “See everything I do for you, night after night?” And this is his audition to compete against a grizzled no-nonsense P.O.W.? Is this the snake charmer whose song we hope will purge that toxic nest called the Bush White House? The rally ends. Grade? A hopeful “Incomplete.” After eight sad years, whichever voice inspires us to recall our Promised Land, that’s the song we’re waiting for.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent
(snip) What would be the appropriate Vedic punishment? After all, we want to be in accord with natural law! We were thinking ghee-boarding may be the way the go, but you know us crazy Americans. Super Radiantly Yours, Vaj I heard today, that water-boarding was only the first step, in the techniques used by the CIA... You know the US absorbed much of the information on torture, from the Nazis who were practiced in the art of torture and other human depravities... This was a very dark time in German history, and human history. We are at a turning point, hopefully we can turn away from such animal like reactions and become more human, as we supposedly evolve... As far as an appropriate punishment, we can leave that to the 'Lords of Karma'... They don't miss a beat, just waiting for the 'right time'.
