[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss in 
 either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds like, 
 from this article, all you need is to get off planet! Beam me UP!
 
 
  http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html


Interesting article, sounds like Ed Mitchell really took 
the flight. I used to want to be the first yogic flyer in
space. Ah, how ambitious I was! 

There was a reason though, I always noticed, and had 
loads of others confirm it, that meditating on a plane
is one of the best experiences. So much more pure and 
total. Never knew why, TMer ideas like being away from
the disruptive lack of coherence in the general population
didn't convince me, I thought it might be more to do with
low cabin pressure, but if Ed and others have a really 
good hit just from being out there, maybe there is 
something else going on. I volunteer for any research.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gasoline Mafia TestifiesNOT Mafia

2008-05-22 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
 willytex@ wrote:
 
  John wrote:
   The reasons for the oil cost increase are plain 
   and simple-- the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
   
  So, how, exactly, has the war in Iraq and Afghanistan
  caused an increase in oil costs in the U.S.? Does the
  U.S. import very much oil from Iraq or Afghanistan?
 
 Whether the US imports its oil from there or not is irrelevant.  The
 price of oil is set by global markets not by the particular 
countries
 you import from.  
  
  According to Dow Jones, Iraq's crude oil exports 
  are significantly higher in 2008 than they were at 
  this point in 2007; oil exports have risen 22%.
 
 So what?? - the relevant period is pre-war vs now - even with 2008
 increases oil production in iraq is still far below pre war levels 
so
 the war has been a slight contributor to the rapid price increase 
over
 the past several yrs.
 
 Still this is small potatoes- oil price is increasing because global
 production can't keep up with rapidly increasing world demand and 
bush
 admin. has done nothing to reduce demand here or strong arm the
 saudis, which he has the military leverage to do.
 

Richard,

Boo is making good points here which cannot be ignored in analyzing 
the increase of oil.  However, most people are still ignoring the 
fact that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are consuming the oil that 
otherwise would have been used throughout the world for peaceful 
purposes.

Just recently, two economists have estimated that the true cost of 
the war has been deliberately underestimated by the Pentagon.  If all 
the costs were included, such as rehabilitation costs of veterans, 
the total costs of the wars would reach up to 13 trillion dollars.

Similarly, there are hidden effects that the wars are creating which 
contribute to the increase of oil.  For one, I believe other 
countries in the world are hoarding oil in anticipation of energy 
crisis.  As such, the price of oil has gone up which follows the law 
of supply and demand in economics.

Secondly, the OPEC nations are not going to change their production 
quotas, despite of what Bush is demanding, in order to capitalize on 
the profits that the current situation is providing for the member 
nations.

In conclusion, Bush really screwed up the entire US and world economy 
with his flawed decision to invade Iraq.  What we are experiencing 
now are the effects of a MAJOR error of judgement.  If Bush was a 
corporate executive, his ass would have fired a long time ago.  As 
MMY would say, you reap what you sow.

JR


 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Thought police.

2008-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Yesterday I mentioned the BBC 1980 Brave New World which can be 
  found on Google (both US and UK):
  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3536993421073315692
  It is startling to see how close we've come to the Brave New 
  World.  
  Think about how many store clerks these days actually behave like 
  the Gammas in the show.
 
 Thanks for the link! I had no idea the there was a
 movie of BNW, it's always been one of my favourite books,
 I used to try and explain to people why most of it had 
 already come true, but they never got it.

A warning. I downloaded it and started watching
it last night, and then checked out its entry on
the IMDB, where the general consensus among
reviewers was, Arguably the worst film ever made
of a novel. They have a point. The acting and
dialogue are wooden and forced, and the profundity
of some of Huxley's concepts have been lowered to
the lowest common denominator.

I may or may not finish it. It's of interest pri-
marily if you knew the novel and want a short
refresher course in its concepts. But at the
same time it's a little like preparing your
high school book report by reading a Classics
Comic Book of War and Peace instead of reading
the novel.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss in 
 either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds like, 
 from this article, all you need is to get off planet! Beam me UP!
 
  http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html

If you enjoyed this article, you would
probably enjoy checking out a big, glossy
book called The Home Planet.

http://www.amazon.com/Home-Planet-Outer-Space-Photography/dp/0201550954/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1211442559sr=1-1

http://tinyurl.com/5v45pz

It's large-scale photos of the Earth taken
from space, most of them shot with Hasselblads,
so the quality of the images is stunning. But
what makes the book more interesting is that
all of the words in this book about space are
written by people who have been there -- either
American or Russian astronauts.

And it's pretty fascinating. In *both* space
programs, individuality and personality were
carefully screened *out* in potential astronauts. 
The space agencies essentially wanted test pilots
who were more like robots than human beings; they
wanted to be sure they would follow orders and
press button A when they were told to push button
A, with no questions asked and no daydreaming or
gazing out the windows going on.

And then you read the words of the astronauts
themselves.

It's as if the journey into space turned these
hardened rocket nerds into philosophers and poets.
Very inspiring.

Some small versions of the photos and some short
quotes from the astronauts can be seen at:

http://www.solarviews.com/eng/earthsp.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: Thought police.

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
   Yesterday I mentioned the BBC 1980 Brave New World which can 
be 
   found on Google (both US and UK):
   http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3536993421073315692
   It is startling to see how close we've come to the Brave New 
   World.  
   Think about how many store clerks these days actually behave 
like 
   the Gammas in the show.
  
  Thanks for the link! I had no idea the there was a
  movie of BNW, it's always been one of my favourite books,
  I used to try and explain to people why most of it had 
  already come true, but they never got it.
 
 A warning. I downloaded it and started watching
 it last night, and then checked out its entry on
 the IMDB, where the general consensus among
 reviewers was, Arguably the worst film ever made
 of a novel. They have a point. The acting and
 dialogue are wooden and forced, and the profundity
 of some of Huxley's concepts have been lowered to
 the lowest common denominator.
 
 I may or may not finish it. It's of interest pri-
 marily if you knew the novel and want a short
 refresher course in its concepts. But at the
 same time it's a little like preparing your
 high school book report by reading a Classics
 Comic Book of War and Peace instead of reading
 the novel.


No Oscars then ;-)

I had a skim through and it looked like a very literal
interpretation, and somewhat overcooking the deadness
of the people of the new world, or maybe that's just 
bad acting.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey aztjbailey@ 
wrote:
 
  I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss in 
  either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds 
like, 
  from this article, all you need is to get off planet! Beam me UP!
  
   http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html
 
 If you enjoyed this article, you would
 probably enjoy checking out a big, glossy
 book called The Home Planet.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Home-Planet-Outer-Space-
Photography/dp/0201550954/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?
ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1211442559sr=1-1
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5v45pz
 
 It's large-scale photos of the Earth taken
 from space, most of them shot with Hasselblads,
 so the quality of the images is stunning. But
 what makes the book more interesting is that
 all of the words in this book about space are
 written by people who have been there -- either
 American or Russian astronauts.
 
 And it's pretty fascinating. In *both* space
 programs, individuality and personality were
 carefully screened *out* in potential astronauts. 
 The space agencies essentially wanted test pilots
 who were more like robots than human beings; they
 wanted to be sure they would follow orders and
 press button A when they were told to push button
 A, with no questions asked and no daydreaming or
 gazing out the windows going on.
 
 And then you read the words of the astronauts
 themselves.
 
 It's as if the journey into space turned these
 hardened rocket nerds into philosophers and poets.
 Very inspiring.
 
 Some small versions of the photos and some short
 quotes from the astronauts can be seen at:
 
 http://www.solarviews.com/eng/earthsp.htm



Thanks for the links, fantastic photos. I couldn't
get enough shots like that. I shall nip down to a
bookstore and have a browse at the Home Planet.
I can return the favour and recommend this, it's
a most gripping and inspiring tale indeed:

http://www.amazon.com/Men-Earth-Buzz-Aldrin/dp/0553053744

Buzz Aldrins book about his involvement in the space
programme. It's a must read, not only does it give
you an idea of the bravery and determination but you
really get an idea of the immensity of what they were
doing philosophically. Mans first step off the Eart.
Buzz thought that after he'd seen the Earth from space,
that all world leaders, religious or political should
go up there and look down, he thinks the perspective 
gained would end all wars. Or if that doesn't work
we could send them up and leave them there.

Buzz was also the first person to go outside the
capsule, until then the view was through the tiny
windows, his description of floating out through
the hatch and seeing the world as being just a blue 
marble floating in nothingness and seeing night and
day as just a straight line, meteors shooting from 
light to dark in the night sky over Africa, it's 
sheer poetry. He must have one awesome sense of 
perspective.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Jack Canfield Mark Victor Hansen in Fairfield Thurs May 22

2008-05-22 Thread Peter
Do they live in a van down by the river?

--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ed Malloy HYPERLINK

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Date: May 21, 2008 10:31:30 PM CDT
 
 To: Ed Malloy HYPERLINK

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Friends,
 
 Tomorrow afternoon Thursday May 22nd Mark Victor
 Hansen a world renowned motivational speaker and
 Co-Founder of Chicken Soup for the Soul series will
 be offering a free seminar on the principles of
 success and prosperity from 2:00 to 4:00 PM at the
 Sondheim Center. That evening Mark will be joined by
 Jack Canfield his partner in the Chicken Soup for
 the Soul series and referred to as Americas #1
 Success Coach to receive the Maharishi Award for
 Prosperity and Progress. They will each be speaking
 at the awards ceremony as well. It is a rare treat
 to have both of these men in Fairfield � a place
 they have long wanted to visit from the great
 reputation we have for peace, prosperity, creativity
 and entrepreneurship. Please join me in welcoming
 them to our community by attending one or both of
 these events. Please forward this message to friends
 if you would like.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ed Malloy (Mayor of FF)
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html
  
  If you enjoyed this article, you would
  probably enjoy checking out a big, glossy
  book called The Home Planet.
  
 
http://www.amazon.com/Home-Planet-Outer-Space-Photography/dp/0201550954/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1211442559sr=1-1
  
  http://tinyurl.com/5v45pz
  
  It's large-scale photos of the Earth taken
  from space, most of them shot with Hasselblads,
  so the quality of the images is stunning. But
  what makes the book more interesting is that
  all of the words in this book about space are
  written by people who have been there -- either
  American or Russian astronauts.
  
  And it's pretty fascinating. In *both* space
  programs, individuality and personality were
  carefully screened *out* in potential astronauts. 
  The space agencies essentially wanted test pilots
  who were more like robots than human beings; they
  wanted to be sure they would follow orders and
  press button A when they were told to push button
  A, with no questions asked and no daydreaming or
  gazing out the windows going on.
  
  And then you read the words of the astronauts
  themselves.
  
  It's as if the journey into space turned these
  hardened rocket nerds into philosophers and poets.
  Very inspiring.
  
  Some small versions of the photos and some short
  quotes from the astronauts can be seen at:
  
  http://www.solarviews.com/eng/earthsp.htm
 
 Thanks for the links, fantastic photos. I couldn't
 get enough shots like that. I shall nip down to a
 bookstore and have a browse at the Home Planet.

If it's still available. Amazon listed only 
new and remaindered versions. But they were
on the whole very cheap, compared to the 
original price. 

The descriptions of their experiences by the
people who've been in space were truly in-
spiring. On the whole, the Russians were
more poetic, but the Americans weren't bad,
either.

 I can return the favour and recommend this, it's
 a most gripping and inspiring tale indeed:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Men-Earth-Buzz-Aldrin/dp/0553053744
 
 Buzz Aldrins book about his involvement in the space
 programme. It's a must read, not only does it give
 you an idea of the bravery and determination but you
 really get an idea of the immensity of what they were
 doing philosophically. Mans first step off the Eart.

It's even more impressive if you've been to the
Smithsonian and seen some of the early spaceships.
They are sheet metal held together with rivets. 
These guys had major cojones.

 Buzz thought that after he'd seen the Earth from space,
 that all world leaders, religious or political should
 go up there and look down, he thinks the perspective 
 gained would end all wars. Or if that doesn't work
 we could send them up and leave them there.
 
 Buzz was also the first person to go outside the
 capsule, until then the view was through the tiny
 windows, his description of floating out through
 the hatch and seeing the world as being just a blue 
 marble floating in nothingness and seeing night and
 day as just a straight line, meteors shooting from 
 light to dark in the night sky over Africa, it's 
 sheer poetry. He must have one awesome sense of 
 perspective.

Sounds wonderful. I'll try to check it out.

As for the idea of perspective, and of the
overview effect, that reminds me yet again
of one of my favorite quotes by one of my
favorite spiritual teachers, Charlie Chaplin:

Life is a tragedy when seen in close-up, but 
a comedy in long-shot.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread Vaj


On May 22, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Hugo wrote:



Thanks for the links, fantastic photos. I couldn't
get enough shots like that. I shall nip down to a
bookstore and have a browse at the Home Planet.
I can return the favour and recommend this, it's
a most gripping and inspiring tale indeed:

http://www.amazon.com/Men-Earth-Buzz-Aldrin/dp/0553053744

Buzz Aldrins book about his involvement in the space
programme. It's a must read, not only does it give
you an idea of the bravery and determination but you
really get an idea of the immensity of what they were
doing philosophically. Mans first step off the Eart.
Buzz thought that after he'd seen the Earth from space,
that all world leaders, religious or political should
go up there and look down, he thinks the perspective
gained would end all wars. Or if that doesn't work
we could send them up and leave them there.

Buzz was also the first person to go outside the
capsule, until then the view was through the tiny
windows, his description of floating out through
the hatch and seeing the world as being just a blue
marble floating in nothingness and seeing night and
day as just a straight line, meteors shooting from
light to dark in the night sky over Africa, it's
sheer poetry. He must have one awesome sense of
perspective.



Have you tried Google Earth? It's a free application you download and  
many of the areas in the US are in high resolution. For example in my  
yard I can see my car, the individual shrubs, etc. And the cool thing  
is, this satellite imagery is draped over the actual terrain, so you  
can tilt your view at an angle and see all the hills and valleys.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you tried Google Earth? It's a free application you 
 download and many of the areas in the US are in high 
 resolution. For example in my yard I can see my car, 
 the individual shrubs, etc. And the cool thing is, this 
 satellite imagery is draped over the actual terrain, so 
 you can tilt your view at an angle and see all the hills 
 and valleys.

And it's great fun. Spain is not so high-res, 
but I just looked at my place and I can see
individual palm trees on the beach and the very 
pavilion in my garden where I am sitting and 
typing this.

Then you just zoom out again until the Earth is
a blue-green ball in black space. Definitely a
tool to remind us of our relative size and
importance in the universe.





[FairfieldLife] Spiritually Hot in Fairfield, Chicken Soup Today

2008-05-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
FW: Thursday May 22nd Mark Victor Hansen renowned motivational 
speaker and Co-Founder of Chicken Soup for the Soul series will be 
offering a free seminar on the principles of success and prosperity 
from 2:00 to 4:00 PM at the Sondheim Center. 

That evening Mark will be joined by Jack Canfield his partner in the 
Chicken Soup for the Soul series and referred to as Americas #1 Success 
Coach to receive the Maharishi Award for Prosperity and Progress. 

They will each be speaking at the awards ceremony as well. It is a rare 
treat to have both of these men in Fairfield #65533; a place they have long 
wanted to visit from the great reputation we have for peace, 
prosperity, creativity and entrepreneurship. Please join me in 
welcoming them to our community by attending one or both of these 
events.  end paste



[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 22, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Hugo wrote:
 
 
  Thanks for the links, fantastic photos. I couldn't
  get enough shots like that. I shall nip down to a
  bookstore and have a browse at the Home Planet.
  I can return the favour and recommend this, it's
  a most gripping and inspiring tale indeed:
 
  http://www.amazon.com/Men-Earth-Buzz-Aldrin/dp/0553053744
 
  Buzz Aldrins book about his involvement in the space
  programme. It's a must read, not only does it give
  you an idea of the bravery and determination but you
  really get an idea of the immensity of what they were
  doing philosophically. Mans first step off the Eart.
  Buzz thought that after he'd seen the Earth from space,
  that all world leaders, religious or political should
  go up there and look down, he thinks the perspective
  gained would end all wars. Or if that doesn't work
  we could send them up and leave them there.
 
  Buzz was also the first person to go outside the
  capsule, until then the view was through the tiny
  windows, his description of floating out through
  the hatch and seeing the world as being just a blue
  marble floating in nothingness and seeing night and
  day as just a straight line, meteors shooting from
  light to dark in the night sky over Africa, it's
  sheer poetry. He must have one awesome sense of
  perspective.
 
 
 Have you tried Google Earth? It's a free application you download 
and  
 many of the areas in the US are in high resolution. For example in 
my  
 yard I can see my car, the individual shrubs, etc. And the cool 
thing  
 is, this satellite imagery is draped over the actual terrain, so 
you  
 can tilt your view at an angle and see all the hills and valleys.


Yeah I love Google Earth. What a great idea, one of the 
best things on the net I thought. I can even see what's 
hanging on my washing line and the shadows of people 
walking past in the street. I also use it for checking 
out the terrain for holidays, maps rarely show you how 
green or hilly a place is.

Have you noticed they change the quality though, I can 
remember looking at the pyramids and Uluru in Australia
in stunning detail but it's all a bit fuzzy these days.
Hope it's temporary and they make the most of this new
super fast broadband they're rolling out.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
 http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html
   
   If you enjoyed this article, you would
   probably enjoy checking out a big, glossy
   book called The Home Planet.
   
  
 http://www.amazon.com/Home-Planet-Outer-Space-
Photography/dp/0201550954/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?
ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1211442559sr=1-1
   
   http://tinyurl.com/5v45pz
   
   It's large-scale photos of the Earth taken
   from space, most of them shot with Hasselblads,
   so the quality of the images is stunning. But
   what makes the book more interesting is that
   all of the words in this book about space are
   written by people who have been there -- either
   American or Russian astronauts.
   
   And it's pretty fascinating. In *both* space
   programs, individuality and personality were
   carefully screened *out* in potential astronauts. 
   The space agencies essentially wanted test pilots
   who were more like robots than human beings; they
   wanted to be sure they would follow orders and
   press button A when they were told to push button
   A, with no questions asked and no daydreaming or
   gazing out the windows going on.
   
   And then you read the words of the astronauts
   themselves.
   
   It's as if the journey into space turned these
   hardened rocket nerds into philosophers and poets.
   Very inspiring.
   
   Some small versions of the photos and some short
   quotes from the astronauts can be seen at:
   
   http://www.solarviews.com/eng/earthsp.htm
  
  Thanks for the links, fantastic photos. I couldn't
  get enough shots like that. I shall nip down to a
  bookstore and have a browse at the Home Planet.
 
 If it's still available. Amazon listed only 
 new and remaindered versions. But they were
 on the whole very cheap, compared to the 
 original price. 
 
 The descriptions of their experiences by the
 people who've been in space were truly in-
 spiring. On the whole, the Russians were
 more poetic, but the Americans weren't bad,
 either.

One astronaut, can't remember his name, got a bit too
poetic and spaced out. He started going on about shooting
stars and ice crystals forming round the capsule, ground
control were shouting at him to snap out of it but he
ended up missing his re-entry window and was dropped
from future missions. 
 
  I can return the favour and recommend this, it's
  a most gripping and inspiring tale indeed:
  
  http://www.amazon.com/Men-Earth-Buzz-Aldrin/dp/0553053744
  
  Buzz Aldrins book about his involvement in the space
  programme. It's a must read, not only does it give
  you an idea of the bravery and determination but you
  really get an idea of the immensity of what they were
  doing philosophically. Mans first step off the Eart.
 
 It's even more impressive if you've been to the
 Smithsonian and seen some of the early spaceships.
 They are sheet metal held together with rivets. 
 These guys had major cojones.

That really comes over in the book, like not knowing
what was going to happen when you break the sound 
barrier but doing it anyway, the right stuff for sure. 

They've got an actual apollo module in the science 
museum in London, it's pitted and scarred and even
melted in places, I look at it and try to imagine 
what it must have been like coming through the 
atmosphere in it. But at least they landed in water,
the Russians landed in Siberia and the parachutes 
failed more than they like you to know. 

 
  Buzz thought that after he'd seen the Earth from space,
  that all world leaders, religious or political should
  go up there and look down, he thinks the perspective 
  gained would end all wars. Or if that doesn't work
  we could send them up and leave them there.
  
  Buzz was also the first person to go outside the
  capsule, until then the view was through the tiny
  windows, his description of floating out through
  the hatch and seeing the world as being just a blue 
  marble floating in nothingness and seeing night and
  day as just a straight line, meteors shooting from 
  light to dark in the night sky over Africa, it's 
  sheer poetry. He must have one awesome sense of 
  perspective.
 
 Sounds wonderful. I'll try to check it out.
 
 As for the idea of perspective, and of the
 overview effect, that reminds me yet again
 of one of my favorite quotes by one of my
 favorite spiritual teachers, Charlie Chaplin:
 
 Life is a tragedy when seen in close-up, but 
 a comedy in long-shot.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Old Relics

2008-05-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Very cool, Off.  Are you making yours from a kit that Greenland 
 Kayaks offers, or are you using some other template or kit?
 

I am making it from both a book, called Building the Greenland 
Kayak by Christopher Cunningham, but also, I have advice from a 
friend who lives close by, and who has built 3 of them.

There is a place in Maine that he went for a week, and they teach you 
how to make one (which you keep). Then later he made 2 for his sons.

They are very cool. Very light (canvass over wood), surprisingly 
strong and durable, and easily repaired. But most of all, they are 
the most beautiful and best designed kayaks, as well as being one of 
the fastest. 

It will be a lot of work, working on it now and then, but I hope to 
have the most of it done by September.

OffWorld



Re: [FairfieldLife] Helium: Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2008-05-22 Thread Peter
Nice find. 
--- Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ken Chawkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Interesting! Surprisingly nice article on TM at
 Helium.
 Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

http://www.helium.com/items/962057-maharishi-mahesh-legends-beatles
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gasoline Mafia TestifiesNOT Mafia

2008-05-22 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
  willytex@ wrote:
  
   John wrote:
The reasons for the oil cost increase are plain 
and simple-- the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

   So, how, exactly, has the war in Iraq and Afghanistan
   caused an increase in oil costs in the U.S.? Does the
   U.S. import very much oil from Iraq or Afghanistan?
  
  Whether the US imports its oil from there or not is irrelevant.  The
  price of oil is set by global markets not by the particular countries
  you import from.  
   
   According to Dow Jones, Iraq's crude oil exports 
   are significantly higher in 2008 than they were at 
   this point in 2007; oil exports have risen 22%.
  
  So what?? - the relevant period is pre-war vs now - even with 2008
  increases oil production in iraq is still far below pre war levels so
  the war has been a slight contributor to the rapid price increase over
  the past several yrs.
  
  Still this is small potatoes- oil price is increasing because global
  production can't keep up with rapidly increasing world demand and bush
  admin. has done nothing to reduce demand here or strong arm the
  saudis, which he has the military leverage to do.
  
 
 Er, are you saying we should threaten to bomb Saudi Arabia if they
don't 
 increase production?

Of course not, that's your definition of military leverage???  The US
has had an agreement with the royal family of saudi arabia since the
end of WWII that we'd protect them against internal and external
rivals in exchange for reliable and affordable source of oil - plus
the saudis buy $$ billions of military equipment from us that they
really want - plus we have elite troops on the ground there involved
in training the saudi military - plus with the growing strength of
Iran and other shiite factions in the region (due to idiot Bush's
war), they need US military support to maintain their leverage in
regional power plays.  Any other admin. besides oilmen bush and cheney
would have used this leverage to some extent.  

Still, even Saudis are having trouble increasing production so the
real problem is just plain old global supply and demand.

 Fact is, W Leeds is correct that we haven't built any new refineries
lately. BUT, 
 we haven't even built the ones that have already been authorized
many years 
 ago, so to blame it all on Congress and the liberals is a tad of a
stretch. 

Refineries in the US have little to do with the global price of oil. 
Gasoline isn't rising because of some shortage of refineries in the
world - the shortage is the supply of oil coming out of the ground.

I don't 
 know why we're hurting more than other countries are (other than
those with 
 sweetheart deals with Venezuela, that is), but the fact is that most
of the rest 
 of the world is NOT screaming about the high cost of oil quite the
same way 
 we are, even though the prices are pretty much the same everywhere
(outside 
 those with good relations with Venezuela). One plausible explanation
is that 
 more of our economy is dependent on being oil guzzlers so we are more 
 vulnerable to oil-price-fluctuations than the rest of the world, but
that only 
 points out our need to stop depending on oil so much.

The US is hurting more because we use so much more, that's all - about
5% of world population but 30% of consumption.  Plus Europe has had
energy taxes for yrs which has encouraged conservation.  The rest of
the world is hurting, but they're dealing with it better because they
don't have republican politicians who don't dare do anything to hurt
the profits of their oil company contributors.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Old Relics

2008-05-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Off, when you get done would you upload pictures of it to the Photos 
section?

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis 
 reavismarek@ wrote:
 
  Very cool, Off.  Are you making yours from a kit that Greenland 
  Kayaks offers, or are you using some other template or kit?
  
 
 I am making it from both a book, called Building the Greenland 
 Kayak by Christopher Cunningham, but also, I have advice from a 
 friend who lives close by, and who has built 3 of them.
 
 There is a place in Maine that he went for a week, and they teach 
you 
 how to make one (which you keep). Then later he made 2 for his 
sons.
 
 They are very cool. Very light (canvass over wood), surprisingly 
 strong and durable, and easily repaired. But most of all, they are 
 the most beautiful and best designed kayaks, as well as being one 
of 
 the fastest. 
 
 It will be a lot of work, working on it now and then, but I hope 
to 
 have the most of it done by September.
 
 OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] tell me what they did to Jesus but I can't tell you what you did to me

2008-05-22 Thread Louis McKenzie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbLSNhWMyccfeature=related
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Old Relics

2008-05-22 Thread new . morning
   
A slightly different take -- having moved 8 times in the past 10
years, I have tended to give away, throw-out (its amazing what you
can't give away these days), sell, break or lose many of my
possessions, culling my things to a smaller, yet still obnoxious
pile of stuff. One move was for 3 months -- 500 miles away -- I just 
 packed my car and lived off of what I had packed -- including desktop
PC and printer. And I barely used half the stuff. And I remember in my
20's I would head off to Europe or Asia for a year with just one
suitcase. And I lived very well. 
 
Current with that, a somewhat shape-shifting goal has been at times to
reduce my possessions to fit in a 4x6 trailer -- that I can haul and
easily store as I saynyasi (never stay in one place for long) around
the world. Or better, back to one suitcase -- or backpack of stuff.
Thus the image of a trailer and / or backpack have become symbolic
images for me -- internal relics (or mandalas to unfold).

My parents having passed on left me with a lot of family stiff.
Splitting it with my brother, I gave him preference for a lot of the
cherished family relic things -- knowing I was in a moving and
pare-down stage and his stable house was more suitable to house such.
Like a beautiful 4' banjo clock that goes back to f's to and
before the 1820's. And the civil war rifle that my ggf 
used as a 17 year old volunteer in the civil war. Both of which -- the
clock especially -- were relics of my youth -- that is, they triggered
great imaginations and pondering about time and change when I was
growing up. And I gave him all the boxes of family records and
pictures -- which I used to pour over and grew to love, creating a
family tree back to late 1700's and mid 1500's for several branches.
All sort of created a visceral ripping sound from soul as I
relinquished them away.  

I kept some silver and things -- but the deepest relic -- some silver
candle sticks I grew up gazing at during dinners as I grew up,and
later when visiting parents and big family celebrations, mysteriously
dissappeared somewhere in my recent moves. So while the family things
have a warm and fuzzy good feeling, and sense of wonder and
imagination about them, I have learned to give them up gradually.

Empty space has become my core relic. Which radiates a  measure of
freedom, ease, and flexibility not found with truck loads of stuff.
And perhaps irresponsibility and flightiness. Relative to most
peers, I seem like a recent street / homeless person, contrasting to
their, often, 30 years of accumulation in one house.  But I love the
universal comment that I get from nearly all: Wow. I could NEVER move
like you have been/are doing. I have way too much stuff. Too many
layers to dig through and organize. I am here for life. I chuckle and
enjoy the fruits of a type of attainment granted or achieved -- and
the sadness of their life sentence. 

(Btw, in my late teens and 20's I moved something like 28 times. The
rest of my life I have spent 10 or 20 years in the same spot. Whats
the commonality? Well for one thing, being in a Mercury dasha (or
major sub) period. And the two times I have stripped away -- or had
everything stripped away-- to the bone in my life -- were major saturn
dasha and combined transit periods. The rest of the time, without
these influences, quite different circumstances. While these two
correlations are hardly statistically significant, they are one reason
I am occaisionally -- once year when I look at my chart -- amused and
intrigued by jyotish. It seems to pick up various major patterns quite
well. 10-20 other examples like this have occurred, eerily sometimes
major changes in my life starting the day  or week of a major dasha
change, and for me the coincidence hypothesis is getting scarred and
battered.)



*
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 No, NOT the people who hang out on FFL, although 
 some of us are. :-) 
 
 What I had in mind are objects of power -- things
 in your house that you might have picked up along the 
 Way and that hold some spiritual significance for you. 
 
 Whatever they are -- statues or paintings of teachers
 or saints or gods and goddesses you revere, thangkas
 of Tibetan saints, photos of places of power or actual
 objects you collected in those places -- if you're like 
 me you fell in love with these objects when you first 
 saw them, and just had to take them home with you and 
 put them in a place of honor in your house. 
 
 So, just out of curiosity, what cool spiritual objects
 have the folks here at Fairfield Life collected in their
 travels? 
 
 I'm thinking about this because I saw a show of holy 
 relics in Barcelona yesterday, and then came home,
 looked around, and realized that I had my share of them,
 too. Most would qualify as art -- Tibetan tsaklis, a 
 drum from a Zen temple in Kyoto, etc. -- some are just
 rocks or shards of pottery I picked up while visiting
 a place of power. 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  Have you tried Google Earth? It's a free application you 
  download and many of the areas in the US are in high 
  resolution. For example in my yard I can see my car, 
  the individual shrubs, etc. And the cool thing is, this 
  satellite imagery is draped over the actual terrain, so 
  you can tilt your view at an angle and see all the hills 
  and valleys.
 
 And it's great fun. Spain is not so high-res, 
 but I just looked at my place and I can see
 individual palm trees on the beach and the very 
 pavilion in my garden where I am sitting and 
 typing this.
 
 Then you just zoom out again until the Earth is
 a blue-green ball in black space. Definitelwy a
 tool to remind us of our relative size and
 importance in the universe.


Yes! That the universe is ours and we can shrink it down to almost
nothing, or expand it way out. Its so cool that the universe is so
accomodating to my whims. Opps my battery is beeping. Sorry folks, the
universe is going to disappear for a bit. But we will be back -- and
your lives will resume as if nothing had happened! 

Ne way, I have to go to my Solipsists Anonymous meeting. Funny, I am
the only one who ever shows up.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thought police.

2008-05-22 Thread Bhairitu
Hugo wrote:
 No Oscars then ;-)

 I had a skim through and it looked like a very literal
 interpretation, and somewhat overcooking the deadness
 of the people of the new world, or maybe that's just 
 bad acting.

There was also a 1998 version with Leonard Nimoy which occasionally 
plays on TV:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145600/
Not only that I turned the Flash video into a DVD and watched it on my 
HD set so it was a little like watching it with Vaseline smeared on my 
glasses.

No, neither version would win any Oscars.  :)   I also have the old 
1950's BBC production of 1984 which in some ways is more true to the 
book than the one done in the 1980's with John Hurt and Richard Burton.




Re: [FairfieldLife] tell me what they did to Jesus but I can't tell you (Very important info here)

2008-05-22 Thread Louis McKenzie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD9InkKlJOEfeature=related

Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbLSNhWMyccfeature=related 

   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thought police.

2008-05-22 Thread satvadude108
Thank you and I hope your injuries are speedily healing.

The recent events in UK legal history regarding anti-terrorist legislation
does interest me. While I don't follow it closely, as time and sources are
in short supply, the larger picture has implications on this side of the pond. 
The tensions between free speech, civil liberties, and those legislative trends
is troubling. The coupling with religion and the scientologists truly makes 
it fascinating. The debates are healthy.

I too hope the kid gets off.

Should you ever feel inclined to write about post 9/11 changes in civil 
liberties and increased governmental surveillance I would surely read
 with interest. Should you encounter articles regarding these issues, 
pointing me in their direction would be appreciated. The reports I have 
read in our press gives the impression of a very visible rise in video
cameras in public spaces in the UK. My impression is this is steadily 
growing on a much less obvious and overt level in the US. These trends 
disturb me. 

Observing the differences involved and the tenor of the debate hopefully 
gives me some greater degree of cultural perspective. I live in the US. It 
is my home. We Yanks like to think we are believers in liberty. I sometimes 
wonder if a slowly creeping loss of liberty, on several levels, isn't more 
insidious than sudden forfeiture. Mindfully monitoring those changes
may be a way of turning the trend. 

Again, my best healing thoughts go your way.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on the matter Richard. Any 
 reaction to the story? 
  Strong feelings on the issues involved? 
 
 Sure Satvadude, I posted without thinking a bit of context might
 be nice. There is quite a bit of back story.
 
 Basically there are two stories here. First is the group 
 themselves I find scientologists fascinating, their group 
 is actually pretty much the same as TM, a lot of similar 
 concepts like enlightenment, which they call being Clear 
 and techniques to remove deep stress, auditing. But there
 is a lot that is different to the TMO, they appear to be 
 very aggressive towards nay-sayers, particularly ex-members, 
 apparently you have to pay to do an exit course or other 
 scientologists are instructed never to speak to you again, 
 even family members. You also have to have been a member for
 quite a while before you find out the whole of Ron Hubbards 
 scripture, namely that we are descended from aliens that came
 to Earth millions of years ago. They deny all this by the way,
 and they would probably contact me threatening legal advice if
 they read it. So all I can say is I don't know if it's true but
 it fascinates me. I'vealways thought there must be something 
 to it or why would people learn? If it wasn't so expensive 
 I would join just to see what it's like being in a different
 cult.
 
 People don't like being called cult members. That's the other
 story, being allowed to call a closed secretive religious group,
 that allegedly persecutes its ex-members, a cult is apparently 
 illegal. This is recent UK legal history that may not interest
 you but it's causing a storm over here. Since 9/11 the government 
 have introduced all sorts of anti-terrorist legislation but it
 gets abused to stop anyone doing anything. 
 
 Richard Dawkins started a debate on whether religion is
 an outdated concept, and even a dangerous one, and that 
 maybe the countries religious leaders may want to explain
 and justify their beliefs and right to teach others what he
 sees as outdated and useless dogma. The government, trying
 to counter rising Islamophobia, then made it illegal to 
 criticise religion, hence the kid getting arrested. All 
 this has enlivened debate no end, with the religious 
 claiming the right not to have deeply held beliefs
 criticised and the athiests saying why not? It's only
 a meme, a collection of ideas isn't it? I think it's
 an essential debate and very healthy. Peoples opinions 
 of my ideas doesn't bother me, others get very sensitive
 so the debate is mostly rather civilised and respectful,
 though obviously tense at times. It's all good fun but
 I doubt anyones opinion will change, you can't reason 
 someone out of something they weren't reasoned into.
 
 I hope this kid gets let off, it's totally ridiculous. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ 
 wrote:
  
   
   A teenager is facing prosecution for using the word cult
   to describe the Church of Scientology.
   
   The unnamed youth was served the summons by City of London
   police when he took part in a peaceful demonstration opposite
   the London headquarters of the controversial religion.
   
   Demonstrators from the anti-Scientology group, Anonymous, who 
   were outside the church's £23m headquarters near St Paul's 
   cathedral, were 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-22 Thread satvadude108
In the interest of intellectual honesty may I suggest another premise Lurk? 
From what I 
can discern by reading the couple of posts you have made on this issue you did 
not *see* 
and *hear*  this Interview and are basing your POV on a written transcript 
after reading 
one of Ms. Judy's translations using a MediaMatters post. I suggest that 
those are both 
slippery surfaces.
 
TurquoiseB posted a video link sometime back that was a test of perception. 
Upon 
viewing it a second time, after the instruction was changed to observe 
background rather 
than foreground, a moon-walking bear was the dominant object after being 
completely 
missed the first viewing.  

My own POV is decidedly anti-Hillary. I proudly admit that. The cloth of my POV 
has been 
dipped in her stain and placed in the sun to fade many times.  The Media 
Matters story
criticizes the phenomenon of post-parsing and then spends an entire article 
engaging 
in it.

The spin created is that Hillary clearly answered the question and was then 
repeatedly 
badgered until she fumbled, stumbled, and bumbled. Have you ever seen Hillary 
intimidated and badgered by the likes of Steve Kroft? I think not. If you have, 
then the 
tears she shed when the campaign was still in the Norheast were the true tears 
of a victim 
and not those of a masterful ploy by a truly fatigued actress taking 
victimology to new 
heights. 

My impression, as I watched on first airing, was best summed up by the Newsweek 
Howard Fineman article quoted in the Media Matters story.

Hillary Clinton doesn't do anything by accident. I watched that CBS tape of 
Steve Kroft's 
interview very, very carefully and Hillary was brilliantly Machiavellian in 
sounding 
indignant while at the same time raising doubts about Obama. She said, 'I have 
no reason 
to think that he's anything other than a Christian.' That was -- I mean, I'm a 
reporter and 
an analyst, not an editorial writer, but that was positively Nixonian in its 
pauses and 
innuendos. Look at it and look at it carefully, there was nothing accidental 
about it.

Her answer had a nuance and tone that begged for clarification. It 
existentially screamed 
for follow-up and the superbly vague undertone was, in my view, quite 
consciously and 
intentionally placed. It exemplifies why she has such high negative reaction 
polling 
numbers on trustworthiness and honesty. It is her nature.
   
You and I may disagree on the *intent* of Mrs. Clinton's words and whether 
those words 
were placed in her mouth by the interviewer. I would humbly suggest that 
referring to the 
POV that differs from yours a lack of intellectual honesty is a mistake. I 
accept and 
embrace that my POV may be incorrect due to my intense dislike of the person 
involved. 
However, questioning the honesty involved is where one becomes seriously 
attached to 
the words and POV involved. I commend you for not being as nasty as Ms. Judy. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Okay, I get to play Judy here.  Two times she affirms that she has 
 no reason to doubt Obama's assertion that he is not a Muslim.  After 
 the third run at it, she allows as far as I know.  In my book 
 that's polite conversation.  If the person you are talking with 
 insists on pursuing a point that you've already made clear, then I 
 think you're likely to phrase your contrary response in a way short 
 of calling the person an idiot.  
 
 And all you can say is, that the transcript is interesting.  Come 
 on Feste. Call it for what it is -  an interviewer pressing a point 
 until he gets a response he wants. If you want to find a way to 
 support Obama, and discredit Hillary, come up with something more 
 substantial. 
 
 I'm no great fan of Hillary, but, let's have some intellecual 
 honesty here. 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  The transcript is interesting, but I think Hillary is still
  responsible for her own words. The as far as I know was 
 unnecessary. 
  
  And as far as electability in the general election is concerned, 
 the
  latest Zogby poll has Obama ten points ahead of McCain. Hillary 
 leads
  McCain by only one point. I rest my case. 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
I feel the same way about Clinton as Rick's friend. I had a
favorable impression of her when the campaign started, but
when the pressure was on her she resorted to some nasty
little games. Just to give one example, when asked about
rumors that Obama might be a Muslim, she said that he was
not, but then added As far as I know, which was a
dirty trick designed to keep the rumors alive.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
 
 Can Obama beat McCain?
 
 Lol...of course he can. Its a no brainer.
 
 McCain is probably the first ever Lame Duck Candidate.
 
 OffWorld


Sad but true. 

My son has an interesting point:

8 years ago, McCain lost to... George W. Bush.  The message was: GW Bush, one 
of the 
biggest losers in American political history, was better than he was. So
He remakes himself as the royal successor to GW Bush, the most unpopular 
president
in more than 100 years. 

Lawson



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread Louis McKenzie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1eUhtPOMAkNR=1

watch this 

sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
off_world_beings  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie  wrote:
 
 
 
 Lol...of course he can. Its a no brainer.
 
 McCain is probably the first ever Lame Duck Candidate.
 
 OffWorld


Sad but true. 

My son has an interesting point:

8 years ago, McCain lost to... George W. Bush.  The message was: GW Bush, one 
of the 
biggest losers in American political history, was better than he was. So
He remakes himself as the royal successor to GW Bush, the most unpopular 
president
in more than 100 years. 

Lawson




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss in 
 either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds like, 
 from this article, all you need is to get off planet! Beam me UP!
 
 
  http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html



Just remember that Bliss is not blissful --Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

If you're calling it bliss and think its a wonderful feeling, its not Bliss.


Lawson



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-22 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 22, 2008, at 12:08 PM, satvadude108 wrote:

Her answer had a nuance and tone that begged for clarification. It  
existentially screamed
for follow-up and the superbly vague undertone was, in my view,  
quite consciously and
intentionally placed. It exemplifies why she has such high negative  
reaction polling

numbers on trustworthiness and honesty. It is her nature.


I was wondering about that, sat.  Anybody have a link to the video?

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey aztjbailey@ 
 wrote:
 
  I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss 
in 
  either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds 
like, 
  from this article, all you need is to get off planet! Beam me UP!
  
  
   http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html
 
 
 Interesting article, sounds like Ed Mitchell really took 
 the flight. I used to want to be the first yogic flyer in
 space. Ah, how ambitious I was! 
 
 There was a reason though, I always noticed, and had 
 loads of others confirm it, that meditating on a plane
 is one of the best experiences. So much more pure and 
 total. Never knew why, TMer ideas like being away from
 the disruptive lack of coherence in the general population
 didn't convince me, I thought it might be more to do with
 low cabin pressure, but if Ed and others have a really 
 good hit just from being out there, maybe there is 
 something else going on. I volunteer for any research.

I thought of plane flight too when I read this article-- taken so 
much for granted, or maybe it is the extreme discomfort experienced 
by many of us in economy class that cancels out any euphoric 
effect...However I have usually felt high when flying on a plane.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Old Relics

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- TurquoiseB wrote:
  So, does anyone have any cool old relics 
  they'd love to rap about? Things that uplift 
  and inspire you consistently, and are thus 
  of value to you on your spiritual path?
 
 The very first to come to mind are the most prominent of all to 
me: my 
 children.  They definitely are consistently uplifting to me, and 
at the 
 two lowest points in my life, their presence turned me firmly away 
from 
 the notion of disappearing or giving suicide any further 
thought.  
 They are truly the kindest, gentlest, and straightest guides for 
my 
 spiritual path.
 
 Loss seems to be a significant tool of learning for me (maybe has 
to do 
 with Saturn as my main planet).  When I decided to have a child, I 
 thought events would go along like normal: I'd conceive, carry, 
 deliver, and tada! I'd be a mom. 
 
 Then I miscarried 5 times in a row.  I gave up on anything 
 being normal.  Then suddenly I was 3 months pregnant, but I 
could not 
 take anything for granted.  By that time I was hopeful for a 
healthy 
 baby but also prepared to deal with another miscarriage.  I took 
that 
 pregnancy literally one day at a time, always planning for both 
 outcomes.  Only when I held her in my arms moments after her birth 
did 
 I let myself believe that I finally had a baby -- that I had 
finally 
 been entrusted with the care of another's soul (but only for that 
 moment -- always wondering when she would be ripped away from this 
 life...).  That whole experience was an arduous 3-year lesson in 
non-
 attachment.  By the time she appeared I was just so humbly 
grateful for 
 her to have hung in there with me all the way through.
 
 Although I carry authority as her mother and I know she needs that 
to 
 grow, in my heart she is my saint and it is there I kneel to her 
in 
 devotion every day.

Beautiful thoughts-- thanks for a really uplifting post. My daughter 
is also a wonderful inspiration to me because of her clarity, her 
silence, her natural empathy for others, her friendliness and her 
sense of humor. It has been a complete joy to raise her, and as she 
graduates from high school this year I want nothing more than to 
continue our close bond. 

Funnily enough after spending so much of my life reaching a point 
where I can think and act clearly in the moment, she takes it all 
for granted and has no interest in overt spiritual practice at all-- 
she just naturally lives it and always has.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 22, 2008, at 12:18 PM, sparaig wrote:


Sad but true.

My son has an interesting point:

8 years ago, McCain lost to... George W. Bush.  The message was: GW  
Bush, one of the
biggest losers in American political history, was better than he  
was. So
He remakes himself as the royal successor to GW Bush, the most  
unpopular president

in more than 100 years.


His approval rating right now is a whopping 23%, according to Zogby.

How this guy is still standing is beyond me.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Helium: Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ken Chawkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Interesting! Surprisingly nice article on TM at Helium.
 Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 http://www.helium.com/items/962057-maharishi-mahesh-legends-beatles
 You never know who's here on the course living in Fairfield!

I appreciate the grounded and matter-of-fact voice of the author too; 
nothing about saving the world or any other castles in the air, just 
as she says, ...awakening me to Vedic knowledge, to the Science of 
Creative Intelligence, and to the processes of TM Meditation and the 
TM Sidhi Program. Through them, I have become an independent thinker 
with a sense of complete freedom.





[FairfieldLife] Funniest news story of the week?

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo


The Astrological Magazine has ceased publication
due to *unforseen circumstances*.

I'm serious:

http://www.astrologicalmagazine.com/

Now, you couldn't make that up.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On May 22, 2008, at 12:18 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  Sad but true.
 
  My son has an interesting point:
 
  8 years ago, McCain lost to... George W. Bush.  The message was: GW  
  Bush, one of the
  biggest losers in American political history, was better than he  
  was. So
  He remakes himself as the royal successor to GW Bush, the most  
  unpopular president
  in more than 100 years.
 
 His approval rating right now is a whopping 23%, according to Zogby.
 
 How this guy is still standing is beyond me.
 
 Sal


Just had a chat with the plumber. His point? The answer to all these questions
is the same as the answer to why hyper-efficient cars that were demonstrated
25 years ago are not on the road today... Americans (and most of the rest of the
world, for that matter) are uneducated, unthinking buffoons easily led around
by the nose.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Helium: Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2008-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
 
  From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@
  
  Interesting! Surprisingly nice article on TM at Helium.
  Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
  http://www.helium.com/items/962057-maharishi-mahesh-legends-beatles
  You never know who's here on the course living in Fairfield!
 
 I appreciate the grounded and matter-of-fact voice of the author too; 
 nothing about saving the world or any other castles in the air, just 
 as she says, ...awakening me to Vedic knowledge, to the Science of 
 Creative Intelligence, and to the processes of TM Meditation and the 
 TM Sidhi Program. Through them, I have become an independent thinker 
 with a sense of complete freedom.


And yet, saving the world, was always MMY's mission. He just decided that
teaching TM to 1% of the world was an unreachable goal, and set his sights
on establishing the smaller, permanent groups.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ 
wrote:
  
  Can Obama beat McCain?
  
  Lol...of course he can. Its a no brainer.
  
  McCain is probably the first ever Lame Duck Candidate.
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 Sad but true. 
 
 My son has an interesting point:
 
 8 years ago, McCain lost to... George W. Bush.  The message was: 
GW Bush, one of the 
 biggest losers in American political history, was better than he 
was. So
 He remakes himself as the royal successor to GW Bush, the most 
unpopular president
 in more than 100 years. 
 
 Lawson

I think once Obama goes head to head with McCain, it will be no 
contest.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
  
  Can Obama beat McCain?
  
  Lol...of course he can. Its a no brainer.
  
  McCain is probably the first ever Lame Duck Candidate.
 
 Sad but true. 
 
 My son has an interesting point:
 
 8 years ago, McCain lost to... George W. Bush.  The message 
 was: GW Bush, one of the biggest losers in American political 
 history, was better than he was. So
 He remakes himself as the royal successor to GW Bush, the most 
 unpopular president in more than 100 years. 

I think you did an excellent job raising 
your son, Lawson. That is very perceptive,
and I don't think I've heard that particular
POV anywhere in the media. It deserves to
be in the Democratic campaign ads.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Funniest news story of the week?

2008-05-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Astrological Magazine has ceased publication
 due to *unforseen circumstances*.
 
 I'm serious:
 
 http://www.astrologicalmagazine.com/
 
 Now, you couldn't make that up.

LOL, literally. Well said.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Thought police.

2008-05-22 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Thank you and I hope your injuries are speedily healing.
 
 The recent events in UK legal history regarding anti-terrorist 
legislation
 does interest me. While I don't follow it closely, as time and 
sources are
 in short supply, the larger picture has implications on this side 
of the pond. 
 The tensions between free speech, civil liberties, and those 
legislative trends
 is troubling. The coupling with religion and the scientologists 
truly makes 
 it fascinating. The debates are healthy.
 
 I too hope the kid gets off.
 
 Should you ever feel inclined to write about post 9/11 changes in 
civil 
 liberties and increased governmental surveillance I would surely 
read
  with interest. Should you encounter articles regarding these 
issues, 
 pointing me in their direction would be appreciated. The reports I 
have 
 read in our press gives the impression of a very visible rise in 
video
 cameras in public spaces in the UK. My impression is this is 
steadily 
 growing on a much less obvious and overt level in the US. These 
trends 
 disturb me. 


 Observing the differences involved and the tenor of the debate 
hopefully 
 gives me some greater degree of cultural perspective. I live in the 
US. It 
 is my home. We Yanks like to think we are believers in liberty. I 
sometimes 
 wonder if a slowly creeping loss of liberty, on several levels, 
isn't more 
 insidious than sudden forfeiture. Mindfully monitoring those changes
 may be a way of turning the trend. 
 
 Again, my best healing thoughts go your way.   

Thanks man, much appreciated. I am indeed healing well
and should make be able to make the most of the summer,
should we actually get one this year.

I'm a bit pushed for time today but will try to reply
soonn, especially about our surveillance society, will
also keep an eye on the press here for any articles that
may interest you. The government is in trouble at the
moment, and may have to scale down it's latest
anti-terror legislation, or they may make it worse in a
bid to win votes by being tough on crime.

If the scientology kid gets actually charged with this
crime I'm sure there will be demonstrations outside 
parliament, and I will be there!

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on the matter Richard. Any 
  reaction to the story? 
   Strong feelings on the issues involved? 
  
  Sure Satvadude, I posted without thinking a bit of context might
  be nice. There is quite a bit of back story.
  
  Basically there are two stories here. First is the group 
  themselves I find scientologists fascinating, their group 
  is actually pretty much the same as TM, a lot of similar 
  concepts like enlightenment, which they call being Clear 
  and techniques to remove deep stress, auditing. But there
  is a lot that is different to the TMO, they appear to be 
  very aggressive towards nay-sayers, particularly ex-members, 
  apparently you have to pay to do an exit course or other 
  scientologists are instructed never to speak to you again, 
  even family members. You also have to have been a member for
  quite a while before you find out the whole of Ron Hubbards 
  scripture, namely that we are descended from aliens that came
  to Earth millions of years ago. They deny all this by the way,
  and they would probably contact me threatening legal advice if
  they read it. So all I can say is I don't know if it's true but
  it fascinates me. I'vealways thought there must be something 
  to it or why would people learn? If it wasn't so expensive 
  I would join just to see what it's like being in a different
  cult.
  
  People don't like being called cult members. That's the other
  story, being allowed to call a closed secretive religious group,
  that allegedly persecutes its ex-members, a cult is apparently 
  illegal. This is recent UK legal history that may not interest
  you but it's causing a storm over here. Since 9/11 the government 
  have introduced all sorts of anti-terrorist legislation but it
  gets abused to stop anyone doing anything. 
  
  Richard Dawkins started a debate on whether religion is
  an outdated concept, and even a dangerous one, and that 
  maybe the countries religious leaders may want to explain
  and justify their beliefs and right to teach others what he
  sees as outdated and useless dogma. The government, trying
  to counter rising Islamophobia, then made it illegal to 
  criticise religion, hence the kid getting arrested. All 
  this has enlivened debate no end, with the religious 
  claiming the right not to have deeply held beliefs
  criticised and the athiests saying why not? It's only
  a meme, a collection of ideas isn't it? I think it's
  an essential debate and very healthy. Peoples opinions 
  of my ideas doesn't bother me, others get 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Helium: Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ 
wrote:
  
   From: Ken Chawkin kchawkin@
   
   Interesting! Surprisingly nice article on TM at Helium.
   Reflections: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
   http://www.helium.com/items/962057-maharishi-mahesh-legends-
beatles
   You never know who's here on the course living in Fairfield!
  
  I appreciate the grounded and matter-of-fact voice of the author 
too; 
  nothing about saving the world or any other castles in the air, 
just 
  as she says, ...awakening me to Vedic knowledge, to the Science 
of 
  Creative Intelligence, and to the processes of TM Meditation and 
the 
  TM Sidhi Program. Through them, I have become an independent 
thinker 
  with a sense of complete freedom.
 
 
 And yet, saving the world, was always MMY's mission. 

However saving the world from a standpoint of UC becomes quite a 
bit different from viewing that same goal as most saw it when it was 
announced.

He just decided that
 teaching TM to 1% of the world was an unreachable goal, and set 
his sights
 on establishing the smaller, permanent groups.
 
Possibly-- certainly the world decided that 1% doing TM was an 
unreachable goal...



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Instant Karma for Clinton's...'

2008-05-22 Thread satvadude108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On May 22, 2008, at 12:08 PM, satvadude108 wrote:
 
  Her answer had a nuance and tone that begged for clarification. It  
  existentially screamed
  for follow-up and the superbly vague undertone was, in my view,  
  quite consciously and
  intentionally placed. It exemplifies why she has such high negative  
  reaction polling
  numbers on trustworthiness and honesty. It is her nature.
 
 I was wondering about that, sat.  Anybody have a link to the video?
 
 Sal



I'm on a net connection today that is too slow for looking 
around at video Sal. I recollect that Media Matters had a 
YouTube link that I never clicked. I would be more inclined to
look on the CBS website as seeing the entire interview on 
60 Minutes, beginning to end, will give you the true picture. 
   



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Gasoline Mafia TestifiesNOT Mafia

2008-05-22 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote:

 Not what I have hear from liberals who also happen to make their living
 in the oil industry. Fact is, cheap oil is almost gone. It happened far
 faster than anyone predicted.


 lawson
Peak Oil may be a ruse so the wealthy can line their pockets even more 
and turn the rest of the populace into slaves.  They seem to be winning 
and if you fight them you get branded a terrorist though freedom 
fighter would be my choice of words.

What's missing here and I brought up about the Subaru electric is we 
need to ditch combustion engine technology.  It's the real root of the 
problem, isn't it?  Of course a diverse range of technologies have been 
developed to replace the combustion engine and the oil and automotive 
companies bought those up as fast as they could and are sitting on 
them.  If these people aren't evil, who is?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Funniest news story of the week?

2008-05-22 Thread Bhairitu
Hugo wrote:
 The Astrological Magazine has ceased publication
 due to *unforseen circumstances*.

 I'm serious:

 http://www.astrologicalmagazine.com/

 Now, you couldn't make that up.
Though I never subscribed and only have one issue that was complimentary 
it was a pretty good magazine with articles written by jyotishis from 
all over.  That means it included some interesting articles from Indian 
village astrologers with simple techniques anyone could learn that gave 
good results.  I didn't know it went out of publication but it's 
possible Raman's kids (whom I've met) didn't want to keep publishing 
it.  There were new jyotish  publications and web sites that sort of 
took over too.
 
Believe me they were well aware of the muhurta of the magazine and may 
have just chosen the time to stop publication.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread Louis McKenzie
there was never a contest just think the only things they can come up with 
regarding Obama are things that have nothing to do with him directly but with 
people he associated with.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-udITSc1y8feature=related

sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
sparaig  
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie  
wrote:
  
  
  
  Lol...of course he can. Its a no brainer.
  
  McCain is probably the first ever Lame Duck Candidate.
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 Sad but true. 
 
 My son has an interesting point:
 
 8 years ago, McCain lost to... George W. Bush.  The message was: 
GW Bush, one of the 
 biggest losers in American political history, was better than he 
was. So
 He remakes himself as the royal successor to GW Bush, the most 
unpopular president
 in more than 100 years. 
 
 Lawson

I think once Obama goes head to head with McCain, it will be no 
contest.




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[FairfieldLife] Gasoline Oil issue

2008-05-22 Thread bettyblue109
First lets have some facts:


From The (UK) Times May 22, 2008



They're wrong about oil, by George
Rip up your textbooks, the doubling of oil prices has little to do 
with China's appetite
Anatole Kaletsky 
Just as the credit crunch seemed to be passing, at least in the US, 
another and much more ominous financial crisis has broken out. The 
escalation of oil prices, which this week reached a previously 
unthinkable $130 a barrel (with predictions of $150 and $200 soon to 
come), threatens to do far more damage to the world economy than the 
credit crunch. 
Instead of just causing a brief recession, the oil and commodity boom 
threatens a prolonged period of global stagflation, the lethal 
combination of high inflation and economic stagnation last seen in 
the world economy in the 1970s and early 1980s. This would be a 
disaster far more momentous than the repossession of a few million 
homes or collapse of a couple of banks.
Commodity inflation is far more lethal than a credit crunch for two 
reasons. It prevents central banks in advanced economies from cutting 
interest rates to keep their economies growing. Even worse, it 
encourages the governments of developing countries to turn their 
backs on global markets, resorting instead to price controls, trade 
restrictions and currency manipulations to protect their citizens 
from the rising costs of energy and food. For both these reasons, the 
boom in oil and commodity prices, if it lasts much longer, could 
reverse the globalisation process that has delivered 20 years of 
almost uninterrupted growth to America and Europe and rescued 
billions of people from extreme poverty in China, India, Brazil and 
many other countries.
That is the bad news. The good news is that the world is not as 
impotent as is often suggested in the face of this danger, since 
soaring commodity prices are not the ineluctable outcome of some 
fateful conjuncture of global economic forces, but rather the product 
of a typical financial boom-bust cycle, which could be deflated - 
especially with some help from sensible political action - as quickly 
as it built up.
The present commodity and oil boom shows all the classic symptoms of 
a financial bubble, such as Japan in the 1980s, technology stocks in 
the 1990s and, most recently, housing and mortgages in the US. But 
surely, you will say, this commodity boom is different? Surely it is 
driven by profound and lasting changes in global supply and demand: 
China's insatiable appetite for food and energy, geopolitical 
conflicts in the Middle East, the peaking of global oil reserves, 
droughts caused by global warming and so on. All these fundamental 
points are perfectly valid, but they tell us nothing about whether 
the oil price will soon jump to $200, stay at $130 or fall back to 
$60 next month.
To see that these fundamentals are all irrelevant, we have merely 
to ask which of them has changed in the past nine months. The answer 
is none. The oil markets didn't suddenly discover China's oil demand 
nine months ago so this cannot explain the doubling of prices since 
last August. In fact, China's insatiable demand growth has 
decelerated. In 2004 it was consuming an extra 0.9 million barrels a 
day; in 2007 it was consuming just an extra 0.3 mbd. In the same 
period global demand growth has slowed from 3.6 mbd to 0.7 mbd. As a 
result, the increase in global demand growth is now well below last 
year's increase of 0.8 mbd in non-Opec production, according to Mike 
Rothman, of ISI, a leading New York consulting group.
Why, then, are commodity prices still rising? The first point to note 
is that many no longer are. Rice, wheat and pork are 20 to 30 per 
cent cheaper than they were two months ago, when financial pundits 
identified Asian and African food riots as the first symptoms of a 
commodity super-cycle that would drive prices much higher. And the 
price of industrial commodities such as lead, zinc and nickel, 
supposedly in short supply a year ago, has now dropped by 40 to 60 
per cent. In fact, most major commodity indices would already be in a 
downtrend were it not for the dominance of oil.
But oil is the commodity that really matters and surely the latest 
jump in prices proves that demand really does exceed supply? Not at 
all. In the late stages of financial bubbles, it is quite normal for 
prices to become completely detached from economic fundamentals. 
House prices in Florida and Spain kept rising even after property 
developers built far more homes than they could possibly sell. The 
same thing happened in credit markets: mortgage securities kept 
rising even while banks created special purpose vehicles to acquire 
vast inventories of bonds for which there were no genuine buyers - 
and dozens of similar examples can be cited from the bubbles in 
internet stocks and Japan. Similarly, the International Gold Council 
reported this week that gold demand for commercial uses and 
investment fell 17 per cent in January, 

[FairfieldLife] How can the God of destruction be supreme?

2008-05-22 Thread tertonzeno
from http://www.saivam.org



How can the god of destruction be the Supreme ? 
Destruction is one among the three activities that is undertaken by 
the Three Holy Manifestations of sanAtana dharma respectively. That 
being the case how could one say Lord Shiva who gets associated with 
the destruction be the Supreme God ? 

braHma, viShNu, rudra, often referred to collectively as trimUrti, 
play the role of masters of creation, protection and destruction 
respectively. If we take this world as an example it is an easy task 
for almost everybody to involve in the acts of creation. (This is not 
to say that the Universal creation is a trivial task. All due 
respects to Lord braHma). Whereas as for as protection is concerned 
it is only few good hearted people, who have the strength and 
inclination to help for the cause of goodness do the protection 
deeds. But... not everybody is provided with the power of 
destruction. When anybody starts doing the destruction then there 
would be chaos which they call the law and order problem. There is 
normally one authority called government is given the authority to 
destroy and not others. This would show how difficult is the action 
of destruction and how carefully it has to be dealt with. This is the 
reason the act of destruction (to be correct this word should be 
actually reduction, as things are not getting destroyed but only a 
change of state happens odukkam in thamiz and pralayam in 
saMskR^itam) is handled by a form of Lord shiva Itself, Who is called 
rudra. Since rudra is a form of the Lord, rudra is considered as Lord 
shiva Itself. 

Ok, so far only one part of the question is answered. Agreed, the 
importance of the act of reduction (destruction). But when this Lord 
being one among the Trinity, how can this Lord be considered the 
Supreme ? 

Let us take an example of a small shop. The owner employs a few 
skilled people to do the regular work and at peak hours or at 
critical periods, he/she also takes some important work and executes 
it. Now that individual wears two caps. One as the owner of the shop 
and other as the worker in the shop, but the individual is the same 
irrespective of whether he /she is acting as the owner or as a 
worker. Nobody questions his/her ownership because he/she shares the 
work load with the others in the shop. The same way though the 
Supreme Lord shiva is beyond the five deeds, It also takes roles in 
the critical deeds assuming a form specific to that role. So though 
Lord shiva gets associated with one of the three in the Trinity, He 
is the Supreme Itself. 

A point to note here is that it is not just these three actions, but 
there are totally five deeds which are the acts of/on behalf of the 
Supreme. These five activities referred to as panycha kR^ityam are 
creation, sustenance, reduction, illusioning and blessing. The holy 
masters for these five activities are braHma, viShNu, rudra, 
maheshwara, sadAshiva respectively. Of these the later three are 
nothing but the forms of the Supreme shiva (called parashivA). So to 
conclude Lord Shiva is the Supreme, Who assumes various critical 
roles and assumes appropriate names and forms, and also stands 
transcending all these. 







[FairfieldLife] Oil issue continued

2008-05-22 Thread bettyblue109
High Oil prices will reduce demand (already has worldwide) and drive 
innovation for alternative energy in a big wayas mentioned Suburu 
electric car, Lexus will come out with a Prius type of Hybrid , 
dedicated to high MPG, Chevy Volt in 2010, etc etc...so high oil prices 
may be actually may be a postive event in that alternatives will 
be perfected and  produced for the masses this time..(we missed our 
wake up call in the 1970's



[FairfieldLife] Re: Gasoline Oil issue

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 First lets have some facts:
 
 
 From The (UK) Times May 22, 2008
 
 
 
 They're wrong about oil, by George
 Rip up your textbooks, the doubling of oil prices has little to do 
 with China's appetite

Excellent article. So basically the commodity market prices are 
driven by the continued perception of spiking demand driven by an 
initial economic transformational event vs. the mathematical model 
that equates commodity price strictly to supply and demand.

Thanks for helping me to put the pieces together. 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil issue continued

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 High Oil prices will reduce demand (already has worldwide) and drive 
 innovation for alternative energy in a big wayas mentioned 
Suburu 
 electric car, Lexus will come out with a Prius type of Hybrid , 
 dedicated to high MPG, Chevy Volt in 2010, etc etc...so high oil 
prices 
 may be actually may be a postive event in that alternatives will 
 be perfected and  produced for the masses this time..(we missed 
our 
 wake up call in the 1970's

Yep-- I am hoping for a similar transformation in US politics, driven 
by the abuses of the current administration.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Gasoline Oil issueit the comities market OIL FUTURES

2008-05-22 Thread WLeed3
The price is set by the futures market NOT the OIL companies. I feel  perhaps 
now the 1. fear factor ( disruption of supply)as well as the 2.  fear of its 
demand increasing India PPR China etc. 3 comities  speculators  set the price 
to increase to where it presently is. Thus perhaps $ 70.00  certainly $ 50.00 
to the 460.00 oil executives stated at the senate hearing  would the be the 
pure demand price with out the fear factor.
 
Solutions 1. decrease the taxes on the comity. 2. allow drilling of the  
coasts  in ANWAR etc. 3. expedite the building of refineries in country to  
refine heave  sulphur crude for  Canada  also off shore sources.  4. remove 
the $ 
.50 cent import tax on Ethanol made in Brazil for wood chips   sugar cane 
stalk  other callousness products. 
 
In a non related but different tack I would encourage non food sources  for 
the production of ethanol  NOT food sources as CORN or even soy. A  waste of 
good corn  soy for human or animal consumption  2. ethanol  uses t much 
water to produce ONLY 2/3s the power of unleaded  petrol,  presently depleting 
the mid west aquifer.This while only producing  but 2/3 s the BTU's of 
unleaded petrol per gallon.
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2008 4:01:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
First  lets have some facts:


From The (UK) Times May 22,  2008



They're wrong about oil, by George
Rip up your  textbooks, the doubling of oil prices has little to do 
with China's  appetite
Anatole Kaletsky 
Just as the credit crunch seemed to be  passing, at least in the US, 
another and much more ominous financial  crisis has broken out. The 
escalation of oil prices, which this week  reached a previously 
unthinkable $130 a barrel (with predictions of $150  and $200 soon to 
come), threatens to do far more damage to the world  economy than the 
credit crunch. 
Instead of just causing a brief  recession, the oil and commodity boom 
threatens a prolonged period of  global stagflation, the lethal 
combination of high inflation and  economic stagnation last seen in 
the world economy in the 1970s and early  1980s. This would be a 
disaster far more momentous than the repossession  of a few million 
homes or collapse of a couple of banks.
Commodity  inflation is far more lethal than a credit crunch for two 
reasons. It  prevents central banks in advanced economies from cutting 
interest rates  to keep their economies growing. Even worse, it 
encourages the governments  of developing countries to turn their 
backs on global markets, resorting  instead to price controls, trade 
restrictions and currency manipulations  to protect their citizens 
from the rising costs of energy and food. For  both these reasons, the 
boom in oil and commodity prices, if it lasts much  longer, could 
reverse the globalisation process that has delivered 20  years of 
almost uninterrupted growth to America and Europe and rescued  
billions of people from extreme poverty in China, India, Brazil and  
many other countries.
That is the bad news. The good news is that the  world is not as 
impotent as is often suggested in the face of this danger,  since 
soaring commodity prices are not the ineluctable outcome of some  
fateful conjuncture of global economic forces, but rather the product  
of a typical financial boom-bust cycle, which could be deflated -  
especially with some help from sensible political action - as quickly  
as it built up.
The present commodity and oil boom shows all the  classic symptoms of 
a financial bubble, such as Japan in the 1980s,  technology stocks in 
the 1990s and, most recently, housing and mortgages  in the US. But 
surely, you will say, this commodity boom is different?  Surely it is 
driven by profound and lasting changes in global supply and  demand: 
China's insatiable appetite for food and energy, geopolitical  
conflicts in the Middle East, the peaking of global oil reserves,  
droughts caused by global warming and so on. All these fundamental  
points are perfectly valid, but they tell us nothing about whether 
the  oil price will soon jump to $200, stay at $130 or fall back to 
$60 next  month.
To see that these fundamentals are all irrelevant, we have merely  
to ask which of them has changed in the past nine months. The answer  
is none. The oil markets didn't suddenly discover China's oil demand  
nine months ago so this cannot explain the doubling of prices since  
last August. In fact, China's insatiable demand growth has  
decelerated. In 2004 it was consuming an extra 0.9 million barrels a  
day; in 2007 it was consuming just an extra 0.3 mbd. In the same  
period global demand growth has slowed from 3.6 mbd to 0.7 mbd. As a  
result, the increase in global demand growth is now well below last  
year's increase of 0.8 mbd in non-Opec production, according to Mike  
Rothman, of ISI, a leading New York consulting group.
Why, then, are  commodity prices still rising? The first point to note 
is that many no  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Obama beat McCain

2008-05-22 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 there was never a contest just think the only things they can come 
up with regarding Obama are things that have nothing to do with him 
directly but with people he associated with.  
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-udITSc1y8feature=related
 
I agree. The only variable is how deeply racism is embedded in the 
American psyche. If not so deeply, Barack wins easily. It almost comes 
down to how many seniors vs. younger generation come out to vote.



[FairfieldLife] Oil Prices

2008-05-22 Thread bettyblue109
Oil prices are set by commodity futures markets and also on the cash 
market. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Jack Canfield Mark Victor Hansen in Fairfield Thurs May 22

2008-05-22 Thread wayback71
But this is quite refreshing that the TMO would actually honor people outside 
of the org.  
Or maybe the TMO has run out of its own to honor, or maybe they are trying to 
hitch a 
ride on the coattails of others?  I hope this is the beginning of breaking down 
the walls of 
ours is the only Way.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do they live in a van down by the river?
 
 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Ed Malloy HYPERLINK
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Date: May 21, 2008 10:31:30 PM CDT
  
  To: Ed Malloy HYPERLINK
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Friends,
  
  Tomorrow afternoon Thursday May 22nd Mark Victor
  Hansen a world renowned motivational speaker and
  Co-Founder of Chicken Soup for the Soul series will
  be offering a free seminar on the principles of
  success and prosperity from 2:00 to 4:00 PM at the
  Sondheim Center. That evening Mark will be joined by
  Jack Canfield his partner in the Chicken Soup for
  the Soul series and referred to as Americas #1
  Success Coach to receive the Maharishi Award for
  Prosperity and Progress. They will each be speaking
  at the awards ceremony as well. It is a rare treat
  to have both of these men in Fairfield � a place
  they have long wanted to visit from the great
  reputation we have for peace, prosperity, creativity
  and entrepreneurship. Please join me in welcoming
  them to our community by attending one or both of
  these events. Please forward this message to friends
  if you would like.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Ed Malloy (Mayor of FF)
  
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jack Canfield Mark Victor Hansen in Fairfield Thurs May 22

2008-05-22 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 22, 2008, at 4:58 PM, wayback71 wrote:

But this is quite refreshing that the TMO would actually honor  
people outside of the org.


They've been doing that for as far back as I can remember.  I've seen
it usually as an attention-getting device.

Or maybe the TMO has run out of its own to honor, or maybe they are  
trying to hitch a
ride on the coattails of others?  I hope this is the beginning of  
breaking down the walls of

ours is the only Way.


Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Jack Canfield Mark Victor Hansen in Fairfield Thurs May 22

2008-05-22 Thread yifuxero
--(below - an attention-getting strategy). Probably true.  We can't 
expect much from the swinish brotherhood (Animal Farm):

The animals' Seven Commandment credo is painted in big white letters 
on the barn. All animals are equal. No animal shall drink alcohol, 
wear clothes, sleep in a bed, or kill a fellow four-footed creature. 
Those that go upon four legs or wings are friends and the two-legged 
are, by definition, the enemy. Too soon, however, the pigs, who have 
styled themselves leaders by virtue of their intelligence, succumb to 
the temptations of privilege and power. We pigs are brainworkers. 
The whole management and organisation of the farm depend on us. Day 
and night, we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake 
that we drink that milk and eat those apples. While this swinish 
brotherhood sells out the revolution, cynically editing the Seven 
Commandments to excuse their violence and greed, the common animals 
are once again left hungry and exhausted, no better off than in the 
days when humans ran the farm. Satire Animal Farm may be, but it's a 
stony reader who remains unmoved when the stalwart workhorse, Boxer, 
having given his all to his comrades, is sold to the glue factory to 
buy booze for the pigs


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On May 22, 2008, at 4:58 PM, wayback71 wrote:
 
  But this is quite refreshing that the TMO would actually honor  
  people outside of the org.
 
 They've been doing that for as far back as I can remember.  I've 
seen
 it usually as an attention-getting device.
 
  Or maybe the TMO has run out of its own to honor, or maybe they 
are  
  trying to hitch a
  ride on the coattails of others?  I hope this is the beginning 
of  
  breaking down the walls of
  ours is the only Way.
 
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Re: How can the God of destruction be supreme?

2008-05-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 from http://www.saivam.org
 
 
 
 How can the god of destruction be the Supreme ? 
 Destruction is one among the three activities that is undertaken by 
 the Three Holy Manifestations of sanAtana dharma respectively. That 
 being the case how could one say Lord Shiva who gets associated with 
 the destruction be the Supreme God ? 
 
 braHma, viShNu, 

Oh, shucks! They shouldn't try to use any transliteration
scheme they obviously are not familiar with! : /



 



[FairfieldLife] Rearranged letters in words - typical TM-speak trick.

2008-05-22 Thread tertonzeno
For example, if we rearrange the letters in MMY's favorite word: 
Being (b-e-i-n-g), we get Geibn - which, as everybody knows, is a 
Kling-On word denoting one's satiation after drinking a hearty draft 
of blood wine.  Here are more rearrangements:


DORMITORY: 
When you rearrange the letters: 
DIRTY ROOM 


  




PRESBYTERIAN:
When you rearrange the letters: 
BEST IN PRAYER


  




  



ASTRONOMER:
When you rearrange the letters: 
MOON STARER


  




  



DESPERATION: 

When you rearrange the letters: 
A ROPE ENDS IT


  




  



THE EYES:! 
When you rearrange the letters:
THEY SEE


  




  



GEORGE BUSH:
When you rearrange the letters: 
HE BUGS GORE


  




  



THE MORSE CODE:
When you rearrange the letters: 
HERE COME DOTS


  




  



SLOT MACHINES:
When you rearrange the letters: 
CASH LOST IN ME


  




  



ANIMOSITY:
When you rearrange the letters: 
IS NO AMITY


  




  



ELECTION RESULTS:
When you rearrange the letters: 
LIES - LET'S RECOUNT


  




  



SNOOZE ALARMS:
When you rearrange the letters: 
ALAS! NO MORE Z 'S


  




  



A DECIMAL POINT:
When you rearrange the letters: 
IM A DOT IN PLACE


  




  



THE EARTHQUAKES:
When you rearrange the letters: 
THAT QUEER SHAKE


  




  



ELEVEN PLUS TWO:
When you rearrange the letters: 
TWELVE PLUS ONE


  




  



AND FOR THE GRAND FINALE:

MOTHER-IN-LAW: 
When you rearrange the letters:
WOMAN HITLER 






































Re: [FairfieldLife] Rearranged letters in words - typical TM-speak trick.

2008-05-22 Thread Peter
Post of the month!

(No stomp the foth!)

--- tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For example, if we rearrange the letters in MMY's
 favorite word: 
 Being (b-e-i-n-g), we get Geibn - which, as
 everybody knows, is a 
 Kling-On word denoting one's satiation after
 drinking a hearty draft 
 of blood wine.  Here are more rearrangements:
 
 
 DORMITORY: 
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 DIRTY ROOM 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 PRESBYTERIAN:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 BEST IN PRAYER
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 ASTRONOMER:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 MOON STARER
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 DESPERATION: 
 
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 A ROPE ENDS IT
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 THE EYES:! 
 When you rearrange the letters:
 THEY SEE
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 GEORGE BUSH:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 HE BUGS GORE
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 THE MORSE CODE:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 HERE COME DOTS
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 SLOT MACHINES:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 CASH LOST IN ME
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 ANIMOSITY:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 IS NO AMITY
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 ELECTION RESULTS:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 LIES - LET'S RECOUNT
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 SNOOZE ALARMS:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 ALAS! NO MORE Z 'S
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 A DECIMAL POINT:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 IM A DOT IN PLACE
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 THE EARTHQUAKES:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 THAT QUEER SHAKE
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 ELEVEN PLUS TWO:
 When you rearrange the letters: 
 TWELVE PLUS ONE
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jack Canfield Mark Victor Hansen in Fairfield Thurs May 22

2008-05-22 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But this is quite refreshing that the TMO would actually honor
people outside of the org.  
 Or maybe the TMO has run out of its own to honor, or maybe they are
trying to hitch a 
 ride on the coattails of others?  I hope this is the beginning of
breaking down the walls of 
 ours is the only Way.

The TMO has always given awards to outsiders - that was the whole
purpose of the seasonal celebrations that went on for yrs.  If you're
rich and or influential in some way, they're eager to butter you up. 
Nothing new here.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
  Do they live in a van down by the river?
  
  --- Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   From: Ed Malloy HYPERLINK
  
  mailto:emalloy@emalloy@
   
   Date: May 21, 2008 10:31:30 PM CDT
   
   To: Ed Malloy HYPERLINK
  
  mailto:emalloy@emalloy@
   
   Friends,
   
   Tomorrow afternoon Thursday May 22nd Mark Victor
   Hansen a world renowned motivational speaker and
   Co-Founder of Chicken Soup for the Soul series will
   be offering a free seminar on the principles of
   success and prosperity from 2:00 to 4:00 PM at the
   Sondheim Center. That evening Mark will be joined by
   Jack Canfield his partner in the Chicken Soup for
   the Soul series and referred to as Americas #1
   Success Coach to receive the Maharishi Award for
   Prosperity and Progress. They will each be speaking
   at the awards ceremony as well. It is a rare treat
   to have both of these men in Fairfield � a place
   they have long wanted to visit from the great
   reputation we have for peace, prosperity, creativity
   and entrepreneurship. Please join me in welcoming
   them to our community by attending one or both of
   these events. Please forward this message to friends
   if you would like.
   
   Thanks,
   
   Ed Malloy (Mayor of FF)
   
   
   No virus found in this outgoing message.
   Checked by AVG. 
   Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 -
   Release Date: 5/21/2008 7:21 AM

 
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Mind Medicine

2008-05-22 Thread Vaj
http://www.alumni.berkeley.edu/California/200803/ellison.aspMind medicineBY KATHERINE ELLISONScientists have launched the largest study to date on whether meditation can produce positive changes in the brain, right down to the molecular level.At the Shambhala Mountain Center, a 600-acre Buddhist retreat nestled at 8,000 feet in the Colorado Rockies, UC Davis neuroscientist Clifford Saron and his team were busy gathering what amounted to more than 2,300 hours of data from physiological tests and interviews. Ambling outside, smiling blissfully despite the chilly late-year winds, were a few of the research subjects themselves—members of a group totaling 64, from the United States, Thailand, the Netherlands, and points in between.On the Road to Shambhala: It may look like Tibet, but the Great Stupa of Dharmakaya (top left) is actually located high in the Colorado Rockies, at the Shambhala Mountain Center (above), where scientists are conducting extensive tests (top right) to better understand the effect of meditation on the brain.Stupa, Meditation: Adeline Von Waning; Electrodes: Courtesy of Clifford Saron.The scientists and their guinea pigs converged in this small valley just south of the Wyoming border, in a locale best known for the 108-foot-tall Great Stupa of Dharmakaya, a sacred Buddhist monument that is the largest of its kind in North America. For 3 months—from September to December—and for as many as 12 hours a day, participants paid some extraordinary attention to attention. They learned to focus on the flow of their breath, donning rubber skullcaps wired with dozens of electrodes to test their cognitive and emotional skills, while samples of their blood and saliva were periodically taken.A researcher at the Center for Mind and brain, Saron and his crew—including the study's contemplative director, B. Alan Wallace, a popular Buddhist author and former translator for the Dalai Lama—invested their time and more than $1 million in research funding. They examined whether meditation can lead to lasting changes in a subject's well-being—changes visible right down to a person's molecular makeup. Preliminary results show the intensive training did indeed improve performance, as compared with a control group, for both short-term and sustained attention, Saron says.The study, called the Shamatha Project after a Tibetan school of meditation training, represents the most comprehensive research yet performed on the effect of meditation on the mind. The project turned a patch of semi-wilderness into ground zero for a new wave of Western enthusiasm with East Asian meditative practices, just as scientists at leading U.S. universities, including Berkeley, are beginning to focus on "positive" sentiments such as concentration, love, and compassion."Meditation has been demystified, to the point where it is now being studied very seriously by very serious scientists," says Berkeley psychology professor Robert Levenson, a Shamatha Project consultant. In recent years, Levenson has carried out his own research into meditation, including blasting a French Buddhist monk with noise to gauge his startle reflex. (The reflex was there, Levenson reports, but significantly muted by some meditation techniques.)continues...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Old Relics

2008-05-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Off, when you get done would you upload pictures of it to the Photos 
 section?

I sure will, I'll try to get pics of the process too.

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss in 
 either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds like, 
 from this article, all you need is to get off planet!

I've been sayin' that for years.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey aztjbailey@ 
wrote:
 
  I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss in 
  either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds 
like, 
  from this article, all you need is to get off planet! Beam me UP!
  
  
   http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html
 
 
 
 Just remember that Bliss is not blissful --Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 
 If you're calling it bliss and think its a wonderful feeling, its 
not Bliss.


Total, and complete BS.

The universe is bliss, everything else of imaginary enlightenment is 
self-deception.

OffWorld







[FairfieldLife] Re: Gasoline Oil issue

2008-05-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  First lets have some facts:
  
  
  From The (UK) Times May 22, 2008
  
  
  
  They're wrong about oil, by George
  Rip up your textbooks, the doubling of oil prices has little to 
do 
  with China's appetite
 
 Excellent article. So basically the commodity market prices are 
 driven by the continued perception of spiking demand driven by an 
 initial economic transformational event vs. the mathematical model 
 that equates commodity price strictly to supply and demand.
 
 Thanks for helping me to put the pieces together.

In addition, the oil companies (and car companies) deliberately and 
methodically killed the electric car in the 1990's, so that they 
could still make profits as fast as possible from the hundred billion 
barrels they knew were still in the ground.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Old Relics

2008-05-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 No, NOT the people who hang out on FFL, although 
 some of us are. :-) 
 
 What I had in mind are objects of power -- things
 in your house that you might have picked up along the 
 Way and that hold some spiritual significance for you. 



Oh, the picture i have of John Hagelin on my alter.  Along with 
Ammachi, Karunamayi, Mother Meera, Yogananda, Guru Dev and other 
saints.  Along with my meditation and spiritual practices i also 
pray, that John Hagelin could pull it off.

I keep a cool hammering rock that was left on my property.  It 
flipped up to the surface about 25 years ago while i was disking and 
harrowing one spring.  A hand made rock tool from a kind of rock that 
is not from around here which some native American left behind.  A 
lot of people have lived here for a long time, is sort of humbling.  
I also got some glacial eratics that show the movements of past 
glaciers over here.  Age old.  





 So, does anyone have any cool old relics they'd love to
 rap about? Things that uplift and inspire you consistently,
 and are thus of value to you on your spiritual path?






 
 Whatever they are -- statues or paintings of teachers
 or saints or gods and goddesses you revere, thangkas
 of Tibetan saints, photos of places of power or actual
 objects you collected in those places -- if you're like 
 me you fell in love with these objects when you first 
 saw them, and just had to take them home with you and 
 put them in a place of honor in your house. 
 
 So, just out of curiosity, what cool spiritual objects
 have the folks here at Fairfield Life collected in their
 travels? 
 
 I'm thinking about this because I saw a show of holy 
 relics in Barcelona yesterday, and then came home,
 looked around, and realized that I had my share of them,
 too. Most would qualify as art -- Tibetan tsaklis, a 
 drum from a Zen temple in Kyoto, etc. -- some are just
 rocks or shards of pottery I picked up while visiting
 a place of power. 
 
 My favorite, just to show that I really am curious 
 and that I collect such things myself, is a garment that
 hangs on the wall above my bed. It's a Tibetan high lama's 
 robe, 17th century, from the Drepung monastery. The head 
 lama of the monastery would have worn it on ceremonial 
 occasions, during which he would have danced for his 
 students, simultaneously transmitting an empowerment. 
 
 For me it just rocks. I get high just looking at it, and
 imagining the culture cool enough to invent something like
 teaching your students via telepathy while dancing for
 them. But to other people, it's just a faded brown robe
 embroidered with dragons. For them it would have no more 
 ability to uplift and inspire than a dishrag.
 
 For you the relic might be a book signed by one of your 
 spiritual teachers, or a photo taken of you standing with 
 them, or a statuette of Lakshmi you bought in India in a 
 place that really uplifted and inspired you. It could be
 a musical instrument played by someone cool, or by your-
 self in some way cool place. If you've hung onto the 
 object for years, and it still serves to uplift and 
 inspire you, that's the kind of thing I'm talking 
 about -- whatever it might be.
 
 So, does anyone have any cool old relics they'd love to
 rap about? Things that uplift and inspire you consistently,
 and are thus of value to you on your spiritual path?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Gasoline Oil issue

2008-05-22 Thread bettyblue109
Off World,

are you 100% sure that oil cmpanies and auto industry killed the 
elctric car in the 90's? Can you prove it?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   First lets have some facts:
   
   
   From The (UK) Times May 22, 2008
   
   
   
   They're wrong about oil, by George
   Rip up your textbooks, the doubling of oil prices has little to 
 do 
   with China's appetite
  
  Excellent article. So basically the commodity market prices are 
  driven by the continued perception of spiking demand driven by an 
  initial economic transformational event vs. the mathematical 
model 
  that equates commodity price strictly to supply and demand.
  
  Thanks for helping me to put the pieces together.
 
 In addition, the oil companies (and car companies) deliberately and 
 methodically killed the electric car in the 1990's, so that they 
 could still make profits as fast as possible from the hundred 
billion 
 barrels they knew were still in the ground.
 
 OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] One's Self I Sing

2008-05-22 Thread yifuxero
Walt Whitman (1819–1892).  Leaves of Grass.  1900. 

1. One's-Self I Sing



ONE'S-SELF I sing—a simple, separate Person;   
Yet utter the word Democratic, the word En-masse.   
   
Of Physiology from top to toe I sing;   
Not physiognomy alone, nor brain alone, is worthy for the muse—I say 
the Form complete is worthier far;   
The Female equally with the male I sing.  5 
   
Of Life immense in passion, pulse, and power,   
Cheerful—for freest action form'd, under the laws divine,   
The Modern Man I sing. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Jack Canfield Mark Victor Hansen in Fairfield Thurs May 22

2008-05-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But this is quite refreshing that the TMO would actually honor people outside 
 of the org.  
 Or maybe the TMO has run out of its own to honor, or maybe they are trying to 
 hitch a 
 ride on the coattails of others?  I hope this is the beginning of breaking 
 down the walls of 
 ours is the only Way.

Actually, the first few Maharishi Awards our TM center awarded were to 
non-TMers.

Its only in later days that the Maharishi Award became so incestuous. Maybe 
noone
was interested in receiving it?


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] flax hull lignans

2008-05-22 Thread tertonzeno
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20040408.htm

Driving cancer cells to mass suicide

A survivor's tale: concentrated flax hull lignans beat back cancer 
for 'hopeless' cases.

If its power against cancer isn't enought, that's just the start.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Space Euphoria and the Overview Effect

2008-05-22 Thread aztjbailey

Here is a link to some cool space pictures: 



http://www.texasjim.com/NASApix/NASA%20pix.htm


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I have experienced only a few instances of altered-state bliss in 
 either TM or Ishaya Ascension Attitude practice and it sounds like, 
 from this article, all you need is to get off planet! Beam me UP!
 
 
  http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/05/space-euphoria.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: Gasoline Oil issue

2008-05-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Off World,
 are you 100% sure that oil cmpanies and auto industry killed the 
 elctric car in the 90's? Can you prove it?

Let the name calling begin!


 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 
sandiego108@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
First lets have some facts:


From The (UK) Times May 22, 2008



They're wrong about oil, by George
Rip up your textbooks, the doubling of oil prices has little 
to 
  do 
with China's appetite
   
   Excellent article. So basically the commodity market prices 
are 
   driven by the continued perception of spiking demand driven by 
an 
   initial economic transformational event vs. the mathematical 
 model 
   that equates commodity price strictly to supply and demand.
   
   Thanks for helping me to put the pieces together.
  
  In addition, the oil companies (and car companies) deliberately 
and 
  methodically killed the electric car in the 1990's, so that they 
  could still make profits as fast as possible from the hundred 
 billion 
  barrels they knew were still in the ground.
  
  OffWorld