[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning in America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1951@ wrote: In order to have an enlightened monarchy, it would require an enlightened monarch and an enlightened public. Enlightened monarchies could exist only in Sat Yuga, a time supposedly when the world was at its' most enlightened state. Doesn't this sound like a fairy tale? What evidence do we have for the existence of any of this? Evidence? We don't need to show you no steenkin' evidence. We've got Maharishisez. :-) It just sounds like lollipop trees and rivers of chocolate in the land of Hatchy Milatchy to me. Some people prefer fairy tales to reality. That is their choice, but when they encounter a Big Bad Wolf in the forest, believing that a basket of goodies is going to keep the wolf away is not necessarily going to keep them from getting eaten. Tex Avery's classic Red Hot Riding Hood -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQtYQouzNsk In Kali Yuga, enlightened leaders are crucified by ignorant masses and enlightened masses are ruled by ignorant leaders and governments. Compared to what? We have human leaders. They have limitations. Bu...buh...but Curtis, these leaders are no longer (spit) human. They're enlightened. Some mean well and are smart and some are dumbasses and self serving. The enlightened are never self serving. And they certainly aren't dumbasses. I mean, would a dumbass try to convince the nations of the world to tear their capital cities of the world to the ground and start over? No...it takes an enlightened visionary to do that. :-) It has always been like this. No magical past when humans weren't humans. The idea that any leader ever existed who was a perfect daddy seems like wishful thinking. Historically, it IS wishful thinking. There exists no record of such a time, except in the fantasies of those who have been brain- washed into believing that there was one. What we have learned from history is that even well meaning people become a version of asshole when they get royal powers. That's why it isn't popular today. We stopped believing in the fairy tale of a perfect leader. But some people not only did NOT stop believ- ing in such fairy tales, they still promote the fairy tales here on a daily basis, as if they were reality. That's what makes this place so interesting -- seemingly rational people who cannot tell the difference between fairy tales and reality. That's charming when seen in a child, but a little scary when seen in adults.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse is not good for the country where the shadow is cast. Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in which chairs had been placed upside down. I assume you believe that is a valid reason for fear as well. What IS it about superstitious people that makes them believe that because they are afraid of more things than rational people, they're better or more knowledgeable or more evolved than the rational people? There may be a scientific explanation for it. We just haven't discovered it yet. At present, we know that the power of the Sun is vital to life on earth. Without its light, we would not be here, or life as we know it will end. For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun utra should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it affects the world as a whole. Is there anyone who can share this knowledge with the group?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse is not good for the country where the shadow is cast. Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in which chairs had been placed upside down. I assume you believe that is a valid reason for fear as well. What IS it about superstitious people that makes them believe that because they are afraid of more things than rational people, they're better or more knowledgeable or more evolved than the rational people? There may be a scientific explanation for it. We just haven't discovered it yet. At present, we know that the power of the Sun is vital to life on earth. Without its light, we would not be here, or life as we know it will end. Every question is an opportunity for the answer we have already prepared. - Maharishi :-) For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun sutra should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it affects the world as a whole. Is there anyone who can share this knowledge with the group? The fact that you would consider the subjective perceptions or intuitions of TM siddhas to be knowledge worthy of being shared with the group is almost scarier than the fact that you believe the shadow cast by an eclipse is malefic. THIS is the reason that people like Jim stop reading books and start believing that anything they feel is not only true but Truth. Maharishi presented an approach to knowledge that specified that not only was completely subjective perception or intuition valid know- ledge, it was *more valid* knowledge than what can be objectively verified. Again, while I *understand* that many still believe this, I do not. I trust my subjective experiences and my intuitions to some extent, but I would never declare them as fact or as knowledge. They are what they are -- mere subjective experiences and intuitions. And, as such, they are worth diddleysquat. I at least can admit this. can you, John? Or are your subjective experiences and intuitions somehow on a higher plane, one that can legitimately be called knowledge?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Don't knock his act. You have to appreciate how he got to where he is from a humble immigrant beginning. This falls into the same category as you saying that you have to interpret the Vedas a certain way. In other words, *bullshit*. YOU may have to, but I don't. I live in Spain, so I am not subjected to the US propaganda machine except when I want to be, but I had just finished reading an article in Esquire that painted Bobby Jindal as the Great Brown Hope of the Republican Party. And then I chose to watch this speech, and realized that if that's true, the Republican Party has tied its hopes to the tail of an idiot. Dude, there are Indian idiots, just like there are American idiots and Russian idiots and Muslim idiots. Which *flavor* idiot you are doesn't change the fact that you're spouting idiocy, if you are. You were born as an American citizen and yet you have not been elected as governor of your home state. Why? Is it because you are too smart for the people of your home and country? He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya. If he's turned to Christianity, then his pastor may doing something special. Maybe, like you, Bobby Jindal runs inside and cowers in fear during an eclipse, for fear of getting some of the malefic effects of the moon's shadow on him. Maybe the gods and goddesses who are so vain and so stupid as to be appeased and feel honored because a few petty humans give them tubs of ghee and sing songs to them during yagyas made his political base so stupid they can't tell that they elected an idiot. Then again, maybe superstitious people think all these things rather than just admit that -- like everyone else -- they don't have a clue how things work, and are just babbling like idiots themselves to keep the boogeymen away. I *understand* that you really *believe* these ridiculous things that you write here, John. It's just that you should understand how ridiculous they sound to someone who *doesn't* believe them. You say these things as if they are self-evident, and as if anyone who *doesn't* see the world that way is a fool. I agree that some people don't believe in any gods. It is their right to form their own opinion. This is a fact of life here on earth. IMO, this condition was described by the rishis in the vedic story relating to the churning of the ocean of milk. The devas (believers) and the rakshasas (nonbelievers) were involved in the churning to obtain the amrita, the nectar of immortality. In the end, the amrita that was produced was awarded to the devas and not the rakshasas. Due to this seemingly unfair treatment, the rakshasas waged war against the devas. Thus, we see this same conflict being played here on earth. We can argue about the validity of gods and demons. But the message still rings true. Some of us believe that people who think that way just might be better candidates for being cate- gorized as fools. This is a good example of the never ending conflict by the powers discussed above. One of the things that makes Fairfield Life so consistently entertaining is the ongoing parade of Things People Believe. My contention is that if one gets stuck in an echo chamber, surrounded by people who believe the same things they do, they often lose touch with how off the wall and superstitious and, well, idiotic some of the things they believe sound like to others, who don't necessarily believe those same things. In these responses, I'm not saying to you that you should *not* believe the things that you believe, merely that it might behoove you every so often to step back and think about how those things sound to people who believe differently than you do. Have you ever considered the fact that your opinion is just the exact opposite of what I'm proposing? I can ask you the same thing for the things that you dis-believe. And, it's equally valid. As the vedic story implies, the important thing is whether or not you are happy about your own disbelief. The story indicates that the nonbelievers will never get the amrita, which is the bliss of living. As such, these nonbelievers are forever arguing about why they too can have the amrita for being who they are. I believe this existentialist burden is very heavy for the human psyche as evident in the writings of Sartre and Nietzche. Life is too short for being miserable. But they chose to do so for the sake of being a human being, as they define it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Anybody watch Bobby Jindal's response to Obama's address to Congress last night? This clip nails it. Very funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wROwWvq6zvw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Don't knock his act. You have to appreciate how he got to where he is from a humble immigrant beginning. This falls into the same category as you saying that you have to interpret the Vedas a certain way. In other words, *bullshit*. YOU may have to, but I don't. I live in Spain, so I am not subjected to the US propaganda machine except when I want to be, but I had just finished reading an article in Esquire that painted Bobby Jindal as the Great Brown Hope of the Republican Party. And then I chose to watch this speech, and realized that if that's true, the Republican Party has tied its hopes to the tail of an idiot. Dude, there are Indian idiots, just like there are American idiots and Russian idiots and Muslim idiots. Which *flavor* idiot you are doesn't change the fact that you're spouting idiocy, if you are. You were born as an American citizen and yet you have not been elected as governor of your home state. Why? Is it because you are too smart for the people of your home and country? No, it's because I never had any interest in running for public office. Why do YOU think that Bobby Jindal was elected governor? Was it because either wannabe or real Hindus performed yagyas to propitiate the gods in his name, or that Roman Catholic priests did the same? I'm serious. You seem to have some VERY ODD ideas about how the world works. I'm curious as to what they are. He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya. If he's turned to Christianity, then his pastor may doing something special. Maybe, like you, Bobby Jindal runs inside and cowers in fear during an eclipse, for fear of getting some of the malefic effects of the moon's shadow on him. Maybe the gods and goddesses who are so vain and so stupid as to be appeased and feel honored because a few petty humans give them tubs of ghee and sing songs to them during yagyas made his political base so stupid they can't tell that they elected an idiot. Then again, maybe superstitious people think all these things rather than just admit that -- like everyone else -- they don't have a clue how things work, and are just babbling like idiots themselves to keep the boogeymen away. I *understand* that you really *believe* these ridiculous things that you write here, John. It's just that you should understand how ridiculous they sound to someone who *doesn't* believe them. You say these things as if they are self-evident, and as if anyone who *doesn't* see the world that way is a fool. I agree that some people don't believe in any gods. It is their right to form their own opinion. I see. Their opinion is just opinion, which you oh-so-benevolently grant them the right to hold, but YOUR opinion, in the next sentence, is fact. Did I get that right? This is a fact of life here on earth. He says, humbly. IMO, this condition was described by the rishis in the vedic story relating to the churning of the ocean of milk. The devas (believers) and the rakshasas (nonbelievers) were involved in the churning to obtain the amrita, the nectar of immortality. In the end, the amrita that was produced was awarded to the devas and not the rakshasas. Cool. *MY* presentation of fact about this condition is that Coyote created the first humans by kicking around a ball of shit. It's either that or that Coyote created the human race by having sex with a woman who had killed off all the other males by having sex with them. Brave guy, that Coyote. One of the two. Both are as much fact as your fairy tale from the vedic stories. Due to this seemingly unfair treatment, the rakshasas waged war against the devas. Thus, we see this same conflict being played here on earth. To paraphrase When Harry Met Sally, am I the rakshasa in this scenario? :-) We can argue about the validity of gods and demons. But the message still rings true. To YOU it rings true, John. To ME -- and to millions of other people who can tell the difference between fairy tales and reality, the sound of bells we hear is associated with ding-a-lings, not Truth. :-) Go back up and reread your post, John. In it, you have essentially presented anyone who does not believe the fairy tales you believe as not only ignorant of the facts, but rakshasas. That's some compassion and humility and lack of ego you've got going for you, John. :-) Some of us believe that people who think that way just might be better candidates for being cate- gorized as fools. This is a good example of the never ending conflict by the powers discussed above. Rakshasas R Us. :-) One of the things that makes Fairfield Life so consistently entertaining is the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Some of us believe that people who think that way just might be better candidates for being cate- gorized as fools. This is a good example of the never ending conflict by the powers discussed above. John, since I have now wasted several of my last posts of the week trying unsuccess- fully to get you to see where I'm coming from, I might as well waste one more. :-) I happen to *love* myth. I read myths often. Some of my favorite writers of fiction, like Roger Zelazny, base their modern novels on older myths. Like Joseph Campbell, I find great value in myths. They often contain great metaphors for life, and can express relative truths about life in those metaphors. But John, when I read myths, I never lose sight of what it is that I am reading. I am reading FICTION. I may find *enormous* value in reading that fiction. I may gain *tremendous* insights from reading it, as I do reading the fiction of my favorite modern writers. But it's still FICTION. Based on the things you have written here, I have to assume that you do NOT assume that the things you read in the Vedic literature are fiction. In fact, the things you have written lead me to believe that you believe that they were often literal fact. People really DID leap from India to Sri Lanka. Blue-skinned guys really DID drive chariots and tell others who it was OK to kill and who it was not. Gods and goddesses really DID get into petty squabbles that resemble -- more than anything else -- a modern TV soap opera. This may help you to find value in the things you read. Considering them true, or even -- as you have said -- Eternal Truth may help you with the process of delving into their metaphors and finding some personal meaning or value in them. I need no such crutch. I can read these myths AS myths and gain just as much value from them as you do. Hell, I can gain just as much value from watching a good mythic movie as you gain from pouring over the Vedic literature. The movie and the Vedas have several things in common. Both were created by human beings. Both are fiction. And both contain metaphors from which a person can discern for himself or her- self some personal meaning or value. But don't ask me to believe that the movie I watched was literal truth in order to enjoy it and find value in it, eh? And similarly, don't ask me to believe that the fairy tales in the Vedas are literal truth for me to find value in them, either. For some of us, it's *enough* that they are uplifting fiction to find things in them that ring true. We don't have to believe that they are fact, or Eternal Truth. That does not make us lesser than you, let alone rakshasas.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
When the host of a Finnish talk show asked Maharishi in 1973, what would Hitler have been like had he been meditating, Maharishi answered: Hitler would have been more useful for the whole world. His whole concentration was in Germany for Germans, but if he had been meditating, his awareness would have been broadened, and in stead of making all these Autobahns only within Germany he would have made Autobahns in Austria and all over.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: When the host of a Finnish talk show asked Maharishi in 1973, what would Hitler have been like had he been meditating, Maharishi answered: The story that went around was that he said: ... he would have made a wonderful Centre Chairman. Uns.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
Did you write that, emptybill? --- On Thu, 2/26/09, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:40 AM In outer yoga, sun and moon progressively illuminate the fields of outer and inner activity and define the phases of expansion and decrease. In inner yoga the unification of sun and moon means placing them together (samadhi) into a state of equal balance. In innermost yoga, the sun and moon are the signatories of sequence (krama), defined either by temporal succession or vertical causation. Whether balanced or imbalanced, the sun and moon thus define the fundamental mortality and interdependence of a being or system. Within innermost yoga, the eclipse of the sun or moon signifies the occlusion of any temporality or causal contingency. This is a state of freedom. The instantiation of this freedom is the immediacy of transcendence within the living presence of an individual being. Or you could just smoke some weed and call it enlightenment. Other stoners will agree and this certainly will confirm it forever. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: In inner yoga, the unification of the sun and the moon is the goal: samadhi. On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:24 PM, John wrote: The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse is not good for the country where the shadow is cast.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:17 AM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse is not good for the country where the shadow is cast. Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in which chairs had been placed upside down. I assume you believe that is a valid reason for fear as well. What IS it about superstitious people that makes them believe that because they are afraid of more things than rational people, they're better or more knowledgeable or more evolved than the rational people? There may be a scientific explanation for it. We just haven't discovered it yet. At present, we know that the power of the Sun is vital to life on earth. Without its light, we would not be here, or life as we know it will end. For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun utra should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it affects the world as a whole. Is there anyone who can share this knowledge with the group? I had clear experiences during the sun the moon and polestar siddhis. It would start as a beam of light the penetrated my body through the crown, and there was the perception that this light grounded in the earth. As it ascended out of the crown, it spread into an immense umbrella-like set of spokes which formed an umbrella- like web. Outside of this the different layers of the planets interpenetrated it. The atmosphere of the earth had similar, layered appearance, as did the crown of the head, where soma would pour through these gauze-like sieves. An eclipse would correspond to the crown of the head. Eclipses are generally thought to be very auspicious for performing certain sadhanas, as their power is magnified many times. In Vedic superstition, the opposite is the case.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:40 AM, emptybill wrote: Or you could just smoke some weed and call it enlightenment. Other stoners will agree and this certainly will confirm it forever. Don't smoke too much.
[FairfieldLife] Obama's Executive Privilege: Bush Redux?
Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), the longest-serving Democratic senator, is criticizing President Obama's appointment of White House czars to oversee federal policy, saying these executive positions amount to a power grab by the executive branch... Obama faces a decision as early as next week on whether to support a claim of executive privilege made by former President Bush in refusing to allow Karl Rove, the former deputy White House chief of staff, to be deposed by the House Judiciary Committee on the White House's role in the 2006 firing of nine U.S. attorneys. Read more: http://tinyurl.com/b925t4 You can rely on Senator Bryd to defend the Constitution but had he been paying attention to Obama's refusal to provide his records for legislative papers, datebooks, college transcripts, graduate transcripts, complete medical records and a vault copy of his birth certificate, he would have known transparency was never high on Obama's list. Two thirds of Sen. Byrd's state, West Virginia, voted for Hillary but he endorsed Obama. Maybe he's having second thoughts. I'm glad he is warning of an executive power grab, but I fear it's too late to do anything about it. Get ready for Bush Redux. raunchydog
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun sutra should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it affects the world as a whole. Is there anyone who can share this knowledge with the group? The fact that you would consider the subjective perceptions or intuitions of TM siddhas to be knowledge worthy of being shared with the group is almost scarier than the fact that you believe the shadow cast by an eclipse is malefic. It's interesting the superstitiousness of patriarchal Brahmanic thinking (often the opposite of tantric mindsets) has definitely become not only part of the TM org mindset, but an often an unshakeable part of many TMers beliefs. Witness some of the superstitions we've seen here: garlic is antithetical to your meditation and your evolution--it's not a part of real Ayurveda (even though classic Ayurvedic texts praise it), no pets in the room while you meditate, women are unclean during their period, don't touch the Maharishi he's so much purer than us, all other meditation techniques are inferior, don't read Vedic or yogic texts it will only confuse you, only speak the sweet truth--no critical thinking, at least out loud, etc. The most destructive spiritual communities are the ones where the teacher has no shadow, they are purity incarnate, but inevitably patriarchal, power-centered, destructive ego trips. The student, not being so pure and shadow free, must follow or believe in strange rules if they are too evolve. I see little humility in such spiritual leaders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Irrational Exuberance?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip I mean, hey, it's a lot better than the doom and gloom coming out of the mouth of Barack Obama and others, like George Soros, who keep telling us this is going to be worse than the Great Depression. Please supply some quotes to this effect. http://tinyurl.com/a9svlp Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union. You need a quote from Obama and at least one other person to make it Obama and others. No, Judy, the reference to Obama was to doom and gloom; it was to the others that I was ascribing the claim to this is going to be worse than the Great Depression. But Barky did say it was the worst since the Great Depression, which is pretty close: Magoo is trolling, as usual: 85 percent say [Obama's] speech makes them more optimistic about country's direction. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/24/speech.poll/index.html http://tinyurl.com/crz9b7 As for one other of note who said it is worse: Paul Volcker: http://tinyurl.com/ap3t45
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: OK, Doug, I officially apologize for the personal nature of my two rants this morning. Dear Turq, apology accepted. With Best Regards, -Doug in FF ps i liked your rants too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: I just found out Jindal was born as a Hindu, but converted to Roman Catholicism. In either case, both religions perform yagyas. You don't have to be a TMer to appreciate the support of Nature through yagyas. Although he is an intelligent person (a Rhodes scholar at that), his success in politics has to be attributed to other intangibles which are not related to education alone. Others may call it Luck. Jindal's success in politics at this point is way overrated. His performance in that speech was an embarrassment, laughed at and panned across the board from the bobble-head punditry [left AND right], the lefties/Democrats to Republicans and the right wing NRO loony types. If that's all the GOP has to offer in 2012 [along with Dan Quayle with a ponytail, Palin]] the Democrats will have nothing at all to worry about. Pretty much all that's left of the GOP base is the radical right wing fringe. And after they had their way destroying the country for eight years they've gotten their asses kicked out of office in the last two elections. They're now not much more than a noisy obstructionist distraction to repairing the mess they made - and the polls show that the American people see it that way. They're mostly impotent and in my view, will will remain that way for the foreseeable future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Don't knock his act. You have to appreciate how he got to where he is from a humble immigrant beginning. He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya. If he's turned to Christianity, then his pastor may doing something special. He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya? WTF are you talking about? You drank way too much TMO kool-aid friend. (unless you're putting me on. If so.that's a good one!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Anybody watch Bobby Jindal's response to Obama's address to Congress last night? This clip nails it. Very funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wROwWvq6zvw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
Ten fold? snip Actually, research being done at Columbia University for the last 10 years shows that cannabis use (yes plain old marijuana) increases the likelihood of developing psychosis by ten fold. Even if it was two-fold, this is interesting to me. I was just dealing with this in some extended family member who is a pot-addict from way back. Was a nice smart funny person but now an extremely malevolent person . If you read the Marijuana Addicts Anonymous (MAA) links, this is not uncommon with long-term chronic pot use. Abuse becomes abusive abuser. There is a reality there it is not just benign. What is the research? Anybody have it to look at? Seems is very timely in many ways here and everywhere. With Best Regards from Fairfield, -Doug snip Actually, research being done at Columbia University for the last 10 years shows that cannabis use (yes plain old marijuana) increases the likelihood of developing psychosis by ten fold. The point is, it's effects on the brain are real and not necessarily helpful for certain people in certain situations where quick memory retrieval is necessary. Yes? And? Per my prior post -- some activities are not enhanced with cannabis. Don't do them. We are not talking using it 24/7 whereby the features of cnnabis are permanent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:49 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Pot has been used for thousands of years and has never been anything but a boon to any culture -- until Hearst et al. Actually, research being done at Columbia University for the last 10 years shows that cannabis use (yes plain old marijuana) increases the likelihood of developing psychosis by ten fold. You are joking right? Another satire? quote Down at the bottom of the CNN report (Marijuana may increase psychosis risk, analysis says ) on the Lancet published study that claims that frequent marijuana use may cause psychosis we find: Bingo: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556097_6 I will allow Ruth and others who like delving into research to do so on this one, but it looks to me as if they started backwards and worked towards a foregone conclusion. In his books on meditation, Zen master and neurologist Jim Austin not only goes into the bodies endogenous drug producing systems, he also goes over the research on all the major recreational drugs as well. On marijuana he shares an interesting study of 311 grown twins, where one twin had used marijuana before 17, the other had not. The twin who HAD used marijuana before 17 was 2.1 to 5.2 times more likely to engage in other drug use, to develop alcohol dependence and to develop some drug dependence. It true, it would back the idea of marijuana being a gateway drug. (But clearly Austin is also of a previous generation, he was born in 1925, and he seems to abhor all drug use, even of botanicals.) Marijuana also decrease theta waves globally in the brain and disrupts both the transient attentional and the more sustained functions that the subjects require to solve working memory tasks. It's interesting that in Ayurveda, a botanical that causes excitation of the cerebral cortex is used as the antidote for marijuana. When pure THC is given to subjects it produces schizophrenia-like positive and negative symptoms, alters perception, leads to both anxiety and to euphoria, and disrupts both immediate and delayed word recall.27 Large doses of cannabis can also provoke an acute psychosis that resembles schizophrenia. Heavy users among young recruits in the Swedish army had a sixfold greater incidence of schizophrenia on follow-up. It would be interesting to see some studies on the botanical antidotes to some of these side-effects and also a cross- comparison of smoking/vaporization of marijuana vs. traditional preparations like bhang--marijuana drinks, usually in almond milk with some herbs and jaggery. These traditional drinks are said to curb a number of the traditional side effects. You can still purchase of number of Ayurvedic rasayanas and powders, which contain marijuana as key ingredients, in this country.
[FairfieldLife] The Cafferty File: GOP in position to talk fiscal responsibility?
Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpBwPFLK8gs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: I just found out Jindal was born as a Hindu, but converted to Roman Catholicism. In either case, both religions perform yagyas. You don't have to be a TMer to appreciate the support of Nature through yagyas. Somehow in my 14 yrs of catholic education I missed attending or hearing about the catholic fire ceremonies to the vedic gods. Of course Jindal is known for having written about performing an exorcism on someone in which he claims to have successfully driven out the devil, so obviously the guy is enlightened. Although he is an intelligent person (a Rhodes scholar at that), his success in politics has to be attributed to other intangibles which are not related to education alone. Others may call it Luck. Well George W, an evangelical and an idiot, rose much higher than Jindal, so I'd say Jesus kicks vedic butt when it comes to luck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Don't knock his act. You have to appreciate how he got to where he is from a humble immigrant beginning. He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya. If he's turned to Christianity, then his pastor may doing something special. He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya? WTF are you talking about? You drank way too much TMO kool-aid friend. (unless you're putting me on. If so.that's a good one!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Anybody watch Bobby Jindal's response to Obama's address to Congress last night? This clip nails it. Very funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wROwWvq6zvw
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Cafferty File: GOP in position to talk fiscal responsibility?
Bingo!!! Watch: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=xpBwPFLK8gs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
All this discussion about eclipses of the sun in Vedic and tantric lore is very interesting. But the link in the initial post in the thread is to a video of an eclipse of the sun by the *earth* as seen from the *moon*, not an eclipse of the sun by the moon as seen from the earth (as the thread title indicates). Somehow I doubt either Vedic or tantric lore deals with such an eclipse. Nothing wrong with changing the subject. I just wondered if anybody had noticed that's what happened. It's really quite a knockout video, BTW. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/25feb_kaguyaeclipse.htm? list967212 http://tinyurl.com/d7j7vf --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:17 AM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: The eclipse may look spectacular. But in jyotish, an eclipse is not good for the country where the shadow is cast. Maharishi used to refuse to enter rooms in which chairs had been placed upside down. I assume you believe that is a valid reason for fear as well. What IS it about superstitious people that makes them believe that because they are afraid of more things than rational people, they're better or more knowledgeable or more evolved than the rational people? There may be a scientific explanation for it. We just haven't discovered it yet. At present, we know that the power of the Sun is vital to life on earth. Without its light, we would not be here, or life as we know it will end. For practitioners of the TM-Siddhi, their samyama about the Sun utra should reveal to them the meaning of the eclipse, and how it affects the world as a whole. Is there anyone who can share this knowledge with the group? I had clear experiences during the sun the moon and polestar siddhis. It would start as a beam of light the penetrated my body through the crown, and there was the perception that this light grounded in the earth. As it ascended out of the crown, it spread into an immense umbrella-like set of spokes which formed an umbrella- like web. Outside of this the different layers of the planets interpenetrated it. The atmosphere of the earth had similar, layered appearance, as did the crown of the head, where soma would pour through these gauze-like sieves. An eclipse would correspond to the crown of the head. Eclipses are generally thought to be very auspicious for performing certain sadhanas, as their power is magnified many times. In Vedic superstition, the opposite is the case.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Don't knock his act. You have to appreciate how he got to where he is from a humble immigrant beginning. Jindal isn't an immigrant, just for the record. Also for the record, his act got bad reviews across the political spectrum: February 26, 2009 Gov. Jindal, Rising Star, Plummets After Speech By SHAILA DEWAN Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana has been a rising star in the Republican Party, but his stock took a hit as he was roundly panned for his televised response to President Obama's first speech to Congress on Tuesday night. Conservative commentators were among the harshest critics, calling Mr. Jindal's delivery animatronic, his prose cheesy and his message that federal spending is not the answer to the nation's economic problems uninspired This was the moment for him to seize the mantle with new ideas, new direction, and lay the groundwork for himself as a creative new thinker, said Thomas Schaller, a political scientist at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. He just used old platitudes and party clichés. Laura Ingraham, the talk radio host; David Brooks, the New York Times columnist; and Juan Williams of Fox News were among Mr. Jindal's unimpressed reviewers in television commentary, while Rush Limbaugh defended the governor on his radio show. Several commentators noted that response speeches, in which a designated member of the opposition party delivers a short, canned speech with no live audience, have often been a recipe for failure. He went in there with high expectations, probably too high for any politician, said David Johnson, a Republican political strategist. Republicans are looking for a voice to lead them out of the wilderness. Still, Mr. Johnson said, it was a flop. Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/politics/ 26jindal.html?pagewanted=print http://tinyurl.com/dguejw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Irrational Exuberance?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip I mean, hey, it's a lot better than the doom and gloom coming out of the mouth of Barack Obama and others, like George Soros, who keep telling us this is going to be worse than the Great Depression. Please supply some quotes to this effect. http://tinyurl.com/a9svlp Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union. You need a quote from Obama and at least one other person to make it Obama and others. No, Judy, the reference to Obama was to doom and gloom; it was to the others that I was ascribing the claim to this is going to be worse than the Great Depression. But Barky did say it was the worst since the Great Depression, which is pretty close: Not that close. Worst since means only that none of the recessions since the Great Depression has been as bad as this one. http://tinyurl.com/crz9b7 As for one other of note who said it is worse: Paul Volcker: http://tinyurl.com/ap3t45 Actually he said the deterioration in the economy *may be* taking place faster than it did in the Great Depression: 'I don't remember any time, maybe even in the Great Depression, when things went down quite so fast, quite so uniformly around the world,' Mr Volcker told a luncheon of economists and investors at Columbia University. And the comments of Bernanke you cited, BTW, weren't all that hopeful, as AP noted: But he said there were significant risks to that forecast and any economic turnaround would hinge on the success of the Fed and the Obama administration in getting credit and financial markets to operate more normally again. 'Only if that is the case, in my view there is a reasonable prospect that the current recession will end in 2009 and that 2010 will be a year of recovery,' Bernanke said. As WSJ said, But that's a mighty 'if.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: snip I agree that some people don't believe in any gods. It is their right to form their own opinion. I see. Their opinion is just opinion, which you oh-so-benevolently grant them the right to hold, but YOUR opinion, in the next sentence, is fact. Did I get that right? No. This is a fact of life here on earth. What's a fact of life here on earth, according to John, is that some people don't believe in any gods. snip To YOU it rings true, John. To ME -- and to millions of other people who can tell the difference between fairy tales and reality, the sound of bells we hear is associated with ding-a-lings, not Truth. :-) Go back up and reread your post, John. In it, you have essentially presented anyone who does not believe the fairy tales you believe as not only ignorant of the facts, but rakshasas. That's some compassion and humility and lack of ego you've got going for you, John. :-) Clearly less compassionate and humble than calling believers ding-a-lings... snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: To YOU it rings true, John. To ME -- and to millions of other people who can tell the difference between fairy tales and reality, the sound of bells we hear is associated with ding-a-lings, not Truth. :-) Go back up and reread your post, John. In it, you have essentially presented anyone who does not believe the fairy tales you believe as not only ignorant of the facts, but rakshasas. That's some compassion and humility and lack of ego you've got going for you, John. :-) Clearly less compassionate and humble than calling believers ding-a-lings... snicker Might I present two of John's own definitions? They are things in parentheses below, presented as equivalent to the words that precede them: The devas (believers) and the rakshasas (nonbelievers) were involved in the churning to obtain the amrita, the nectar of immortality. In the end, the amrita that was produced was awarded to the devas and not the rakshasas. Followed up by the following, referring to one of my quotes as an example of the rakshasa/ nonbeliever group: This is a good example of the never ending conflict by the powers discussed above. Rakshasa: A goblin, demon, evil spirit; a demonic personality. Ding-a-ling: An eccentric or crazy person. I would say that I let John off easy by calling him a ding-a-ling. I'd go so far as to suggest that my choice of term was compassion incarnate compared to his. :-)
[FairfieldLife] 'The Inner Life'
The Inner Life By ROGER COHEN- NYT Published: February 25, 2009 I was reading on the crowded subway when a distraught-looking woman stumbled into me. “Please, please help me out,” she said. “Please. I’m trying to buy flowers for a funeral arrangement.” She was African-American, middle-aged, wide-eyed. Her words were not addressed to me but to the whole subway car. The slightness of her build belied the strength of her voice. So many things are dying at the moment — an entire free-spending epoch is being laid to rest — that I wondered which particular burial she had in mind. “My cousin was a good kid,” she said. “Please, please. For the funeral arrangement, I need flowers.” People averted their eyes. Early-evening fatigued, city-churned, they did not want to hear talk of funerals, much less help pay for them. They were headed home to hear a new president diagnose the state of America. Some shook their heads, thinking, “She’s crazy!” I returned to my reading, a profile of the British author Ian McEwan in The New Yorker. I admire McEwan, enjoy his novels, often read them in a sitting or two, but do not feel transported by him. There is something too carefully plotted in his effects that precludes falling under his spell. His studied brilliance never quite attains greatness. Still, he takes a scalpel to sexual need and obsessive violence, the dark undertows of life, in ways that can be utterly compelling. I read this phrase from McEwan — “Narrative tension is primarily about withholding information” — and nodded. Having part of the picture incites an anxiety, the desire to see it whole, completed. I wondered who the stumbling subway woman’s cousin was, how “the kid” died, in a knife fight or from withering illness, what flower arrangement she had in mind (chrysanthemums? gladioli?) — or whether the whole story was made up, just a scam. Piecing together fragments is what we do right now as we emerge from the Grand Illusion, a time when the human herd frolicked in limitless pastures to the seductive lilt of Ponzi promises. We are trying to get our bearings, find out where the bottom is in order to put one foot in front of the other. Bernard Madoff’s investment firm did not buy any securities for clients in 13 years. And nobody noticed. You couldn’t make this stuff up. It’s not only narrative tension that withheld information produces; it’s $50 billion going poof in the night. As it happened, I’d been reading McEwan that morning on the late John Updike in The New York Review of Books: the profiled as profiler. He quotes Updike describing the facts of life as “unbearably heavy, weighted as they are with our personal death. Writing, in making the world light — in codifying, distorting, prettifying, verbalizing it — approaches blasphemy.” But what beautiful, what necessary, blasphemy! Perhaps the Age of Excess had to end before we could all turn inward just enough to rediscover the gold standard of the perfectly formed phrase, and make connections again. McEwan chooses a sentence from Updike’s “Couples” that could describe his own work: “Nature dangles sex to keep us walking toward the cliff.” It dangles chance, too. In the same New York Review was Anita Desai’s piece on Azar Nafisi, best known for her much-loved “Reading Lolita in Tehran.” I’d just returned from Tehran and devoured the review of Nafisi’s new book, “Things I’ve Been Silent About: Memories.” “Reading Lolita” was precisely about turning inward, away from desperate events — in this case a revolution that had betrayed many of its protagonists, offering veils of repression rather than long-sought freedom — to the consolation of great Western literature. It was a book of passionate personal transcendence. Nafisi’s new book is essentially a family memoir, but in the tumult of Iran, her story and the nation’s overlap. She alludes to the terrible misconceptions of Iranian democrats and leftists about Ayatollah Khomeini in the revolutionary fervor of 1979: “Too arrogant to think of him as a threat and deliberately ignorant of his designs, we supported him. We welcomed the vehemence of Khomeini’s rants against imperialists and the Shah and were willing to overlook the fact that they were not delivered by a champion of freedom.” This was truly a tragic illusion for which a heavy price has been paid by Iranians, their nation now scattered in a diaspora stretching from California to Australia. Many ache still for their homeland. By comparison, the cost of American illusions pales. A decimated 401(k) is painful, but no exile. It is true, as President Obama said in his first address to a joint session of Congress: “We will rebuild; we will recover.” That, at least, is what American history suggests. As the woman proceeded down the car, I could hear that phrase being repeated — “Please I’m trying to buy flowers for a funeral arrangement” — until at last it grew muffled in a kind of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning in America and Collective Consciousness Determines Leader
I find that premise that leadership reflects the collective consciousness of a nation is an interesting hypothesis. Hardly substantiated or established -- but interesting speculation. Look at the ramifications IF true: ColCon has been jumping around like grasshoppers in a hot skillet. (Attempting to) look at the intelligence, leadership qualities, and personal qualities of presidents -- outside of politics -- paints a picture of pretty extreme jumps -- back and forth. Is ColCon really that jumpy? And Lincoln, then Washington are usually at the top of historians' lists of greatest presidents. is ColCon devolving? And take GWB -- on almost all levels, in the lower range on most scales - possibly the worst president in ages, if not ever. Did ColCon just shrivel up and die in the last 8 years. And then spring to blazing life with Obama - who regardless of politics -- appears to score better on all dimensions than Bush -- often dramatically? And the more nuanced interpretation of the premise (leadership reflects the collective consciousness of a nation) is that people get what they deserve under each leader. Since we all have experienced ups and downs in life, we can't really say our consciousness has changed as dramatically as our circumstances. IF karma is a deep and widespread -- multi-dimensional characteristic of life and ColCon -- then that may be a hint. People work off bad karma under a bad leader and work off good karma under a good leader -- and the direction is not simply up -- but jumps around. Per this framework GWB may have been one of the deepest stresses / distortions in ColCon and its now released -- and much more light has now entered the scene. And ColCon I would venture -- is a set of forces plying against each other. Darkness vs light -- if you will -- in simple terms. At some points darkness is just a hair more substantive than light. A tipping point. GWB JUST squeaked by in two elections. The kaboom, light overtakes darkness. Still murky gray, but ColCon perhaps reaches tipping points -- wan what appears to be quantum phase shifts -- when the tipping point, the critical mass, is reached. And ColCon is made up of a shifting population. Every 8 years 5% or so of people exit and 5%+ or so people enter the stage. Over 50 years, there i sa huge change of players. (Who may be ourselves -- but in different clothes) Its all a speculative framework until the ColCon and Karma meters are developed. But frameworks (theories) can make predictions well in advance of their validation. Its interesting (to me) to look at how this framework would view emerging -- and future events. I am curious if others have any insights or views on this.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
On Feb 26, 2009, at 9:35 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Abuse becomes abusive abuser. There is a reality there it is not just benign. What is the research? Anybody have it to look at? Seems is very timely in many ways here and everywhere. There are several studies which claim to show marijuana increases susceptibility to psychosis or even (paranoid) schizophrenia. I believe what they're noticing is that some people tend to get really paranoid when they get stoned. Anyone who grew up in the 60's or 70's will already be familiar with this, as there was always someone who got really freaked out when stoned: the cops were following you, they were afraid if they forgot to breathe they'd die, people were watching them etc. Apparently if these type of people smoke long enough, they can develop problems--as opposed to the types that laugh their asses off, get totally into music or TV, make love like Casanova, enthrall at the minute details of nature or become very creative.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
Kirk, According to the Urban Dictionary cuntfact is an insult used by a Republican eunuch posing as Buddhist when a woman withers what's left of his willy and his hard-on for Bobby Jindal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Fuck you. Don't bitch Jindal out. He has real humans doing yajnas for him of all states in the union. Cuntfact. You should take cuntfact as a compliment. Don't fuck with Jindal. - Original Message - From: raunchydog raunchy...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Anybody watch Bobby Jindal's response to Obama's address to Congress last night? This clip nails it. Very funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wROwWvq6zvw Jindal, Mr. Rogers? LOL These guys got nothin'. We should send Republicans sweaters March 20th for Won't You Wear a Sweater? day, commemorating Jindal's Mr. Rogers impersonation. http://tinyurl.com/2tf65e Palin's feistiness would have been a better choice. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning in America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote: I was thinking of what was referred to in the Indian Scriptures, i.e., King Janaka described as an enlightened monarch. Since this was during Sat Yuga, the people were supposed to have been enlightened also. If this actually existed, then you have the circumstances that for an enlightened monarchy. Capitalism is probably the best system we have in this age. I figured that. And I appreciate your using the word supposedly when discussing these stories about India's Golden Age. I would no more believe this story as historical fact than I would accept the Native American mythology that mankind came out of a corn cob. For me accepting their literal meaning strips these stories of their instructive message. Unlike Dawkins I don't hate scriptures of the world, I love them. But I love them as literature not as history. Contained in the Indian scriptures are many instructive tales about human nature and how humans assert power over others. It, like the Christian Bible, is also full of many ideas that modern people have rejected (slavery in the Bible, and sex with children as a way to make an old man feel younger,in the Charaka Samhita.) as well as attempts to describe natural events with supernatural explanations. (Surya drags the Sun across the sky is not just another way to describe what is happening, it is completely wrong since we now know it is the earth moving around the sun. If they had described Surya dragging the earth around the sun we might have the beginning of a case for a Vedic science!) So I guess we all find different values in these old stories. I believe that comparing humans today with enlightened perfect people does an injustice to our humanity. Even the concept of human enlightenment or being a siddha, perfect being seems like a tyrannical concept to compare our imperfect lives to. But I guess some people are inspired by such an ideal. Where I might say, I am not enlightened and don't appreciate being judged by a perfectionist standard some other might say But someday I will be! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1951@ wrote: In order to have an enlightened monarchy, it would require an enlightened monarch and an enlightened public. Enlightened monarchies could exist only in Sat Yuga, a time supposedly when the world was at its' most enlightened state. Doesn't this sound like a fairy tale? What evidence do we have for the existence of any of this? It just sounds like lollipop trees and rivers of chocolate in the land of Hatchy Milatchy to me. In Kali Yuga, enlightened leaders are crucified by ignorant masses and enlightened masses are ruled by ignorant leaders and governments. Compared to what? We have human leaders. They have limitations. Some mean well and are smart and some are dumbasses and self serving. It has always been like this. No magical past when humans weren't humans. The idea that any leader ever existed who was a perfect daddy seems like wishful thinking. What we have learned from history is that even well meaning people become a version of asshole when they get royal powers. That's why it isn't popular today. We stopped believing in the fairy tale of a perfect leader. I was thinking of what was referred to in the Indian Scriptures, i.e., King Janaka described as an enlightened monarch. Since this was during Sat Yuga, the people were supposed to have been enlightened also. If this actually existed, then you have the circumstances that for an enlightened monarchy. Capitalism is probably the best system we have in this age.
[FairfieldLife] The 2010 US Budget is up
Go to www.budget.gov which redirects to http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/ .
[FairfieldLife] Marek -- dispassion or ???? (Re: How old is your brain)
Marek, I believe you've had to practice dispassion more than most. When I taught special education, I had to just not go there when my students' possible futures came to my mind. I knew they all had a hard life coming, and my job was to teach how to read and do simple math, but their swords of Damocles were felt as if over my head too. I'd get inklings of their possible futures by meeting their parents and seeing some of their support system, but often the parents were obviously falling far short of being ideal. And, it was impossible to think about these kids with any hope that they'd have a chance at the good life. Batting away such speculations was a constant feature of my teaching experience, and, eventually, it drove me from that career. I didn't have what it takes. Yet here you are faced with helping folks who are in some of the hardest circumstances possible, and much of it due to their own failings, and they, probably in the various stages of anger, denial, etc., will hardly be in an emotional state that best serves them in trying to help you help them. My heart would break on the first case. How do you find this super-dispassion? Did it take practice, or was it something in your DNA? I'm betting on the DNA. It is one thing to be able to maintain clarity by one's intellect grasping all the elements of a situation and discovering what sort of triage is necessary, but it is quite another not to be bothered by the psychic carnage you witness everyday. If it isn't DNA then maybe ya gots something to impart to us here about how to keep one's soul unsullied by a dark roiling on the rank injustice of the world. After all, all your clients were once cuddly sweet little babies who were then funneled into their futures by every sort of personality skewing abuse from parents and peers. I watched Dr. Phil interview Nadya Suleman, the octo-mom, and she was so out of it regarding the issues she faced -- the stress she's processing is utterly intense, and she's just not built to handle it. And she's in denial about it. I see her thinking she can pass the course by writing a blue book, instead, you know, of seeing that she's taking a final exam for the advanced math course. I cannot but think that most of your clients are just exactly so muddled and unhelpful. How does your heart respond when even the person who is being helped is suspicious, resentful, even angry of/at you? Oh, you're going to come back with it's all just water off my ducky back, maybe, but ditch the brave face for us, let your hair down, and give us some insight on the grind of a public defender's life. Inquiring minds want to know if you're Mother Teresa disguised as Atticus Finch disguised as surfer-trikker dude. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Cool, Edg (as re BiteLite search and find mission). You know, maybe the field of Civil Law is full of tight asses, but humor is such a huge positive in life, and that's true in the courtroom, too; and particularly so when you're in front of a jury. I love jurors to laugh and unburden their hearts a little bit, even moreso when the subject matter of the trial is distasteful or gruesome. Just yesterday I was in court all afternoon with a new-ish judge doing a double misdemeanor calendar call (i.e., she was calling her own court's misdemeanor pretrial cases and the misdemeanor pretrial cases for another judge's courtroom who was unavailable). I was carrying about 30-35 cases myself and there were maybe 90-100 cases called total. Normally, I'd be done by 4:00-4:30, but I didn't get out till 6:00. Everyone was overworked, the court clerk was audibly complaining about having to work so hard and trying to keep up with all the cases (the court clerk makes a running log of all the Court's orders and findings which are printed up and distributed as the minutes for the files), the courtroom was packed with impatient and unhappy misdemeanor defendant's. Every appropriate opportunity I got I'd insert some more-or-less humorous comment into the litany of negotiations, pleas, and continuances. Like you, I was always a wise- ass in school, always getting in trouble for saying the wrong (but funny) thing at the wrong time; but now I find that with a little discretion that wise-ass stuff pays real dividends in the day-in-day- out grind of the job. I kept it as light as the situation allowed and by the end of the calendar everyone was happy to be done and mostly smiling. As to the mental work, for the most part it doesn't burden me internally, but there is a lot of it to do. If you look at my dining room, the table and the floor is loaded with witness files, discovery, and research for a murder trial I start at the end of next month. The trial will last 4-6 weeks and I spend some time with it every evening and each weekend; there's still motions to write, witnesses
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: To YOU it rings true, John. To ME -- and to millions of other people who can tell the difference between fairy tales and reality, the sound of bells we hear is associated with ding-a-lings, not Truth. :-) Go back up and reread your post, John. In it, you have essentially presented anyone who does not believe the fairy tales you believe as not only ignorant of the facts, but rakshasas. That's some compassion and humility and lack of ego you've got going for you, John. :-) Clearly less compassionate and humble than calling believers ding-a-lings... snicker Might I present two of John's own definitions? They are things in parentheses below, presented as equivalent to the words that precede them: The devas (believers) and the rakshasas (nonbelievers) were involved in the churning to obtain the amrita, the nectar of immortality. In the end, the amrita that was produced was awarded to the devas and not the rakshasas. Followed up by the following, referring to one of my quotes as an example of the rakshasa/ nonbeliever group: This is a good example of the never ending conflict by the powers discussed above. Rakshasa: A goblin, demon, evil spirit; a demonic personality. Ding-a-ling: An eccentric or crazy person. I would say that I let John off easy by calling him a ding-a-ling. I'd go so far as to suggest that my choice of term was compassion incarnate compared to his. :-) Yeah, but the point is that you're no more willing to accept that both beliefs are equally valid than he is. And in any case, he didn't define rakshasa as a goblin, demon, etc. He defined a rakshasa simply as an unbeliever. From the story he told, it appears that the unbelievers became demonic only after they got so angry at the believers--for having snagged the amrita they had worked together to obtain for everybody--that they attacked them. Seems to me both sides have something of a beef, and neither gets to posture that their side is more virtuous, intellectually or any other way.
[FairfieldLife] Mourning in America
Some people including this woman caller on local KGO talk radio yesterday morning feel they aren't going to get any help from the government. This poor caller who grew up and lives in Marin county (the upscale county just north of San Francisco) who with her husband own two businesses, have three children and four cars are just barely able to make their mortgage. The evening host on KGO, Gene Burns, heard this call and went ballistic last night in his first hour. Gene is no socialist, in fact he is a former libertarian who only changed his registration to the Democratic party so he could vote for Obama in the state primary. He was enraged by this woman's feeling of entitlement. You see if you were born and grew up and can afford to live in Marin country you're pretty damn fortunate. So why whine? We seem to have a few whiners on FFL too who probably aren't exactly homeless and jobless but greedy. Here is a link to the MP3 file from the first hour of last nights show (don't know if folks out of the country can download this as KGO used to block foreign downloads). http://bayradio.com/kgo_archives/32000.mp3 (note that these files change weekly so if you're reading this in the future you may not get the right file). Link to the archive page (for more hours, 7pm-10pm of the program): http://www.kgoradio.com/Article.asp?id=49920
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mourning in America
I should should have mentioned that KGO records the full hour (usually leaving blank space for some commercials) so the actual show starts 5-7 minutes into the file. Bhairitu wrote: Some people including this woman caller on local KGO talk radio yesterday morning feel they aren't going to get any help from the government. This poor caller who grew up and lives in Marin county (the upscale county just north of San Francisco) who with her husband own two businesses, have three children and four cars are just barely able to make their mortgage. The evening host on KGO, Gene Burns, heard this call and went ballistic last night in his first hour. Gene is no socialist, in fact he is a former libertarian who only changed his registration to the Democratic party so he could vote for Obama in the state primary. He was enraged by this woman's feeling of entitlement. You see if you were born and grew up and can afford to live in Marin country you're pretty damn fortunate. So why whine? We seem to have a few whiners on FFL too who probably aren't exactly homeless and jobless but greedy. Here is a link to the MP3 file from the first hour of last nights show (don't know if folks out of the country can download this as KGO used to block foreign downloads). http://bayradio.com/kgo_archives/32000.mp3 (note that these files change weekly so if you're reading this in the future you may not get the right file). Link to the archive page (for more hours, 7pm-10pm of the program): http://www.kgoradio.com/Article.asp?id=49920
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
Fuck Dude was I wasted when I wrote that or what. Marijuana causing paranoid episodes and bad spelling. Just accept my apologies please. I was trying to say cuntface, which frankly I find complimentary, but whatever. It was fucking Mardi Gras. - Original Message - From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood Kirk, According to the Urban Dictionary cuntfact is an insult used by a Republican eunuch posing as Buddhist when a woman withers what's left of his willy and his hard-on for Bobby Jindal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Fuck you. Don't bitch Jindal out. He has real humans doing yajnas for him of all states in the union. Cuntfact. You should take cuntfact as a compliment. Don't fuck with Jindal. - Original Message - From: raunchydog raunchy...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Anybody watch Bobby Jindal's response to Obama's address to Congress last night? This clip nails it. Very funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wROwWvq6zvw Jindal, Mr. Rogers? LOL These guys got nothin'. We should send Republicans sweaters March 20th for Won't You Wear a Sweater? day, commemorating Jindal's Mr. Rogers impersonation. http://tinyurl.com/2tf65e Palin's feistiness would have been a better choice. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
Yes I wrote it but I was occluded. I admit it. High sounding talk like that may seem pedantic but I figure meditating stoners will flip back and forth with it in a bardo of felt meaning. Who needs the immediacy of transcendence when you can have felt meaning? Reminds me of a sutra I heard somewhere - Experience is not always what it seems, Even skimmed milk parades as ghee.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama the torturer
I am the eternal wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:02 PM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net wrote: Exclusive: Lawyer says Guantanamo abuse worse since Obama LONDON (Reuters) - Abuse of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay has worsened sharply since President Barack Obama took office as prison guards get their kicks in before the camp is closed, according to a lawyer who represents detainees. Abuses began to pick up in December after Obama was elected, human rights lawyer Ahmed Ghappour told Reuters. He cited beatings, the dislocation of limbs, spraying of pepper spray into closed cells, applying pepper spray to toilet paper and over-forcefeeding detainees who are on hunger strike. Applying pepper spray to toilet paper sounds rough since most of the inhabitants don't use toilet paper. We shouldn't feel bad about the detainees. Bhairitu I'm sure will be happy to step in and explain that this is all their karma. Gee, according to eternal, they worked hard to get there.
[FairfieldLife] Christ in Egypt - Book Release
My 'sister', with the 'scholarly brains' (Acharya S), has written several books that everyone interested in the spiritual should have on their shelf. Her newest, 'Christ in Egypt', is released this week. Acharya is a Greek trained archeologist who decided in the '90s, to dig into all the available 'religious' books and sources to verify their authenticity and, WOW - you knowing this stuff will put you light years ahead of the members of all religions because you'll see what's a fact and, what's fiction! I have all the answers to religion questions from her several books right at my finger tips (of course, I'm lazy so I call her up). Cutting through the 'bullshit' with religions is a 'leg up' in the spiritual/conscious world. Things that will be mainstream tomorrow are right here now - and you have a contact right to the source! It's not far fetched to say that Acharya is at least equivalent to the leading scholar on the subject! Being in the heart is the 'cherry on the creme' BUT, the rest of the story... YOU want to know, is right here! Read her comment below, before clicking on her 'steller house publishing'! Arhata Hi there! I am delighted to announce that after all this time and through much adversity, I have finally finished my magnum opus Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection! Even better - it is now available! That's right - you can finally get your copy sent out to you today! http://stellarhousepublishing.com/christinegypt.html Those of you who have been interested in knowing the facts behind the Horus and Egyptian elements of the movie ZEITGEIST, you need my massive study, Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection. This book essentially proves the contentions regarding Horus and the Egyptian religion as found in ZG and my earlier works. I used thousands of pages of PRIMARY SOURCES, including the Book of the Dead, the Pyramid Texts and the Coffin Texts. I also used the works of highly credentialed scholars in relevant fields. There are over 2,400 footnotes/citations from over 900 sources. http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/christinegypt.html If you find yourselves in debates about this material, you will want to have this book. This information has never before been put together in a single volume. This book takes things to a whole new level! Take a look - and enjoy! Acharya S/D.M. Murdock Author, The Christ Conspiracy, Suns of God, Who Was Jesus? and Christ in Egypt http://TruthBeKnown.com http://StellarHousePublishing.com http://TBKNews.blogspot.com P.S. Please pass this notice around to everyone you know who may be interested in the facts behind ZEITGEIST. I am a completely independent scholar, and I rely on word of mouth! You can also post it in forums and groups. Thanks for your help! P.P.S. If you can't afford a copy, please ask your local library to obtain one: ISBN 9780979963117. I promise you will not want to miss this one!
[FairfieldLife] Pentagon lifted its ban on press coverage of war dead today
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/26/pentagon.media.war.dead/index.html or at your favorite news site. Judging by the leftist idealism recently stated in FFL that'll probably be http://english.pravda.ru/ . I'm traveling today and have a lot of spare time to do some reading. I'm finding the draft 2010 US budget fascinating reading.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth eclipses the sun
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptyb...@... wrote: Yes I wrote it but I was occluded. I admit it. High sounding talk like that may seem pedantic but I figure meditating stoners will flip back and forth with it in a bardo of felt meaning. Who needs the immediacy of transcendence when you can have felt meaning? Reminds me of a sutra I heard somewhere - Experience is not always what it seems, Even skimmed milk parades as ghee. Yes, I know, That is so.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning in America
On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:04 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote: I was thinking of what was referred to in the Indian Scriptures, i.e., King Janaka described as an enlightened monarch. Since this was during Sat Yuga, the people were supposed to have been enlightened also. If this actually existed, then you have the circumstances that for an enlightened monarchy. Capitalism is probably the best system we have in this age. I figured that. And I appreciate your using the word supposedly when discussing these stories about India's Golden Age. I would no more believe this story as historical fact than I would accept the Native American mythology that mankind came out of a corn cob. Of course, that's crazy. Everyone knows mankind came out of a seashell. For me accepting their literal meaning strips these stories of their instructive message. Unlike Dawkins I don't hate scriptures of the world, I love them. But I love them as literature not as history. Contained in the Indian scriptures are many instructive tales about human nature and how humans assert power over others. It, like the Christian Bible, is also full of many ideas that modern people have rejected (slavery in the Bible, and sex with children as a way to make an old man feel younger,in the Charaka Samhita.) as well as attempts to describe natural events with supernatural explanations. (Surya drags the Sun across the sky is not just another way to describe what is happening, I'll say it isn't! Everyone knows that's Apollo's job. it is completely wrong since we now know it is the earth moving around the sun. If they had described Surya dragging the earth around the sun we might have the beginning of a case for a Vedic science!) Sal
[FairfieldLife] The Federal Government is the largest energy consumer in the world.
Page 22 of the 2010 US draft budget.
[FairfieldLife] Hexagonal hyperbolic tiling.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Uniform_tiling_73-t12.png
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yearbook Page at MUM LIbrary
Who has died? From my years? I know some people from the year after myself do well with galleries aand art shows and stuff. Alexis, and some others. - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yearbook Page at MUM LIbrary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yateendrajee mcint...@... wrote: PDF's of old yearbooks are available at the MUM website. Might be helpful for group participants to point themselves out, and/or refresh their memories about classmates. I've been having a misty-eyed time looking at those dear people! http://www.mum.edu/yearbooks.html Cameron McIntosh Student '77-79 Wow, that was a trip and a half. I'm in the '83 and '84 yearbooks, the two years that I was there. I saw Kirk's picture in the '84 yearbook. Some of the people are dead. Quite a few are still in Fairfield. One of them has been married to me for almost 22 years. Lots of them are people I haven't thought about in a very long time. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Miracle at St. Anna
I finally got around to seeing this film on Blu-Ray last night. I was knocked out and think this is Spike Lee's best movie so far. It's sort of Spike Lee does an Italian film since it is set in Italy. But the filming style is very much what we see with Italian films like the ones I used to see on Sunday afternoons at the local arthouse. The only problem with the film was Terence Blanchard's score which was a little overbearing. I would take it that WWII dramas are not Terence's forte. ;-) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1046997/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: I just found out Jindal was born as a Hindu, but converted to Roman Catholicism. In either case, both religions perform yagyas. You don't have to be a TMer to appreciate the support of Nature through yagyas. Somehow in my 14 yrs of catholic education I missed attending or hearing about the catholic fire ceremonies to the vedic gods. Look again at what was done by the priests. At certain masses, the priest would pour incense into the fire, the censer. The smoke coming from the censer is spread around the altar to purify the location for the sacrifice. As a matter of fact, the entire mass can be considered a fire ceremony. The fire lies within each individual present at the mass.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Fuck Dude was I wasted when I wrote that or what. Marijuana causing paranoid episodes and bad spelling. Just accept my apologies please. I was trying to say cuntface, which frankly I find complimentary, but whatever. It was fucking Mardi Gras. Kirk, The person you are addressing is a dudette, for your information.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
Om, Turq this was one of the more interesting things you wrote that hit kind of close to Fairfield. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I think that this is *exactly* the kind of wake up call it's been needing for a long, long time. ... I think it would be just *great* if this scandal led back to participants in the growing operation who are well-respected first generation members of the TM community, not just the second- and third-generation offspring, reacting to their parents' hypocrisy. Well, you don't live here? What i hear out around in town when i ask is that a family more behind this is not netted now. meditating family, father and son at least. Partying with kids growing up here. An open refrigerator stocked with pot. Open door policy. Inter-generational partying. Cocaine when it comes through. Some old guys trading sex with pretty young things for drugs too. In to the biz of growing medicinal where it can be, selling the surplus. Money laundering. Been going in this direction for a decade or so. What might you think now if this was in your village? With your young kids or other kids growing up in the village? Would you be writing a little different tune if you were living here knowing something more of what is behind the news headline, like this? Just wondering what your civic standard is when the back-story actually goes this way?Whether is in the meditating community or otherwise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: I just found out Jindal was born as a Hindu, but converted to Roman Catholicism. In either case, both religions perform yagyas. You don't have to be a TMer to appreciate the support of Nature through yagyas. Although he is an intelligent person (a Rhodes scholar at that), his success in politics has to be attributed to other intangibles which are not related to education alone. Others may call it Luck. Jindal's success in politics at this point is way overrated. His performance in that speech was an embarrassment, laughed at and panned across the board from the bobble-head punditry [left AND right], the lefties/Democrats to Republicans and the right wing NRO loony types. If that's all the GOP has to offer in 2012 [along with Dan Quayle with a ponytail, Palin]] the Democrats will have nothing at all to worry about. Pretty much all that's left of the GOP base is the radical right wing fringe. And after they had their way destroying the country for eight years they've gotten their asses kicked out of office in the last two elections. They're now not much more than a noisy obstructionist distraction to repairing the mess they made - and the polls show that the American people see it that way. They're mostly impotent and in my view, will will remain that way for the foreseeable future. Based on the media reaction and the group consensus, Jindal appears to have hit a snagged in the rise of his political stock. The Republican managers would have to think of someone else as a candidate for the next presidential election. Right off hand, I'm thinking of Arnold the governator. But he can't be a legitimate contender since he was not born in this country. Unless the Republicans can change the constitution, the governator is hasta la vista, baby! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Don't knock his act. You have to appreciate how he got to where he is from a humble immigrant beginning. He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya. If he's turned to Christianity, then his pastor may doing something special. He may have the support of Nature through an undisclosed yagya? WTF are you talking about? You drank way too much TMO kool-aid friend. (unless you're putting me on. If so.that's a good one!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Anybody watch Bobby Jindal's response to Obama's address to Congress last night? This clip nails it. Very funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wROwWvq6zvw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Om, Turq this was one of the more interesting things you wrote that hit kind of close to Fairfield. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I think that this is *exactly* the kind of wake up call it's been needing for a long, long time. ... I think it would be just *great* if this scandal led back to participants in the growing operation who are well-respected first generation members of the TM community, not just the second- and third-generation offspring, reacting to their parents' hypocrisy. Well, you don't live here? What i hear out around in town when i ask is that a family more behind this is not netted now. meditating family, father and son at least. Partying with kids growing up here. An open refrigerator stocked with pot. Open door policy. Inter-generational partying. Cocaine when it comes through. Some old guys trading sex with pretty young things for drugs too. In to the biz of growing medicinal where it can be, selling the surplus. Money laundering. Been going in this direction for a decade or so. What might you think now if this was in your village? With your young kids or other kids growing up in the village? Would you be writing a little different tune if you were living here knowing something more of what is behind the news headline, like this? Just wondering what your civic standard is when the back- story actually goes this way? Whether is in the meditating community or otherwise. Well, let me start by saying that the meditating community you describe is a hypocritical farce. If what you are saying is true, OBVIOUSLY Fairfield is *no different* than any other small town in America. If there is a market for the drugs, that means that the people who live in this medi- tating community DID NOT FIND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN MEDITATION. That applies to them whether they are young or old. If people were selling marijuana and using it this way, THAT IS THE FAULT OF THOSE WHO MADE IT ILLEGAL AND THUS MADE IT A THING THAT CAN BE PROFITED FROM. This could not have happened in the Netherlands. It could not have happened in Spain, or in any of the other places on the planet that have realized that the way to handle marijuana is to tolerate, control, and tax it. It happened because fucking Puritans decided to make it illegal, and to demonize those who liked to smoke it as not only lesser than they were, but criminals. So -- whether it be my community or yours -- I put the blame for this situation on the people WHO MADE SELLING MARIJUANA A PROFITABLE INDUSTRY. That's you. And all the people who think like you, if you think it should be made illegal and treated with Puritanical intolerance rather than tolerance. What you are describing is EXACTLY the same situation as, say, a person who was active in getting legal abortion banned complaining that the daughter of one of his neighbors died at the hands of a back-room illegal abortionist. The person who made abortion a crime is the guilty party in that case. The persons who made selling marijuana a crime rather than find a sensible way of dealing with it are responsible for the situation you described. And, as far as I can tell, you are one of those people. You asked me how I would react to your scenario. Well, this is how I react. The pot dealer(s) fulfilled a NEED, a NEED that was VERY present in your meditating com- munity, a NEED fueled by intolerant people like yourself, who made it impossible to buy grass in a controlled, safe situation. YOU made it necessary for these kids to go to someone who would take advantage of them. If you want to blame anyone for this situation, blame yourself. If you had handled it the sane and tolerant way that the Netherlands handled it, NONE of the things you described would ever have happened.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
do.rflex wrote: His performance in that speech was an embarrassment, laughed at and panned across the board from the bobble-head punditry [left AND right], the lefties/Democrats to Republicans and the right wing NRO loony types... More embarrassment than the fact that none of the Dems had even read the stimulus bill? That Dems don't understand how devastating it is for Jindal to point out that Dems didn't even read the bill and still don't know what is in it, only helps Republicans. Read more: Wizbang, February 25, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/bah3xj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: Yep, of COURSE you're hip to the Trappist brew! Lately I've been really getting into some of the fine India Pale Ales that are produced right here in the USA. Ever try Ruination IPA brewed by Stone in CA? Beautiful stuff that you just hold in your mouth and savor. Damn Curtis. One of these dayswe gotta hang out and do some serious listening, dining and tasten'! Yeah, long overdue Geezer. Do you have SKYPE? It is a free video conference program and I've been using it to jam with other musicians over the Internet. We might be able to hoist one this way before either of us gets to the opposite coast! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: . You can experience some real social peak experiences that celebration cakes do not provide. (Invincibility to Uruguay...) Quote of the day. Great points Curtis! BTW, ever delighted in the sent-from-heaven complexity of a Belgium Trappist Monk ale like Chimay or Westmalle? It really is damn near a religious experience! Oh yeah. complex and satisfying like liquid bread! And with Hops as a cousin to cannabis who knows which part the magic brew gives it the magic! I favor domestic versions for the freshness but I'm a micro brew man. Yep, of COURSE you're hip to the Trappist brew! Lately I've been really getting into some of the fine India Pale Ales that are produced right here in the USA. Ever try Ruination IPA brewed by Stone in CA? Beautiful stuff that you just hold in your mouth and savor. Damn Curtis. One of these dayswe gotta hang out and do some serious listening, dining and tasten'!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: When the host of a Finnish talk show asked Maharishi in 1973, what would Hitler have been like had he been meditating, Maharishi answered: The story that went around was that he said: ... he would have made a wonderful Centre Chairman. Uns. I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0 Forget to mention, judging by how his dog(s?) behaved near him, he might have had a rather powerful darshana.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
Judy wrote: Also for the record, his act got bad reviews across the political spectrum: Maybe you'd like to discuss what Jindal actually said instead of how he looked and sounded on TV. If Jindal continues to do interviews like the one he did today on Today he will be a superstar by the time 2012 rolls around... Wizbang: http://tinyurl.com/bah3xj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
TurquoiseB wrote: ...they don't have a clue how things work, and are just babbling like idiots themselves to keep the boogeymen away. You sound really, really scared and confused! Palin and Jindal, or Jindal and Palin -- Whichever way you spindal That ticket can't failin. Liberals believe they are the good people with the good beliefs, the good hearts. Especially about race. How could it be otherwise? They are so nice and so good-hearted. And Bobby Jindal is not a liberal. He's a conservative. That's not good. That's bad. Bad, bad Bobby Jindal. Quick! Help me think of all the ways Bobby Jindal is just terrible. Ack! Don't look at him! He's horrible! I can barely stand to look at him. When he first emerges from behind a curtain, I moan Oh, God. This is terrible. This is automatically horrible. A man of color, who is not supporting our side. One look and I am disgusted. How loathsome! Read more: 'Why racial attitudes that helped Barack Obama will hurt Bobby Jindal' Posted by Ann Althouse: http://tinyurl.com/cstyca
[FairfieldLife] Marek -- dispassion or ???? (Re: How old is your brain)
Marek, something you said really drives home something I was just ranting about to Doug: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Most people who've been participants in the criminal justice system as defendants, have had pretty shitty lives, are used to be shit on, and frequently (and not surprisingly) have internalized all that shit and believe it to be true. They've been told that their whole lives and in the context of the criminal proceedings, the same message is being given. But I know that there is very little difference between them and me, and that difference I don't perceive as being that substantive. Beautifully said, Marek. One of my favorite Bruce Cockburn songs is called One Day I Walk. It's one of the first ones I ever heard him play: Oh I have been a beggar And shall be one again And few the ones with help to lend Within the world of men One day I walk in flowers one day I walk on stones Today I walk in hours One day I shall be home I've sat on the street corner And watched the bootheels shine And cried out glad and cried out sad With every voice but mine One day I walk in flowers one day I walk on stones Today I walk in hours One day I shall be home One day I shall be home [ Download URL that might work ] http://beemp3.com/download.php?file=535415song=One+Day+I+Walk There is magic in this song. Bruce is a strong Christian, but one of the good ones. He walks the walk. And, like you, he realizes that there really is not that much difference between him and bums on the street or the supposed criminals except the turning of the wheel. If reincarnation is real, we have all been beggars, and we all will be again. Someone who has realized this does not spend his life *judging* those who are on the beggar or the criminal turn of the wheel. He doesn't look down his nose at them and consider himself better or more highly evolved. Sounds as if you are one of those kinda people. It also sounds as if you're exactly the kinda guy that Curtis and I would enjoy hoisting a few with. I see them pretty much as I see myself and treat them that way. Attention is love. They feel that (even if they don't think about it that way) and they respond to it. Of course they do. How would YOU react if you had been looked down on by most of the people around you most of your life? With regard to the sad situation that Doug just talked about, I reacted by talking about an *alternative* to judging people and criminalizing their behavior because you don't like it. It's an alternative I got to see on my many trips to Amsterdam. And it *worked* there. As I've said before, after over 30 years of making marijuana available and controlling it, *less than 5% of the Dutch population have ever bothered to try it*. Compare to the United States, where the great-great- great-grandchildren of uptight, judgmental elitist Protestants (people who had been chased out of every country in Europe *for* being uptight, judgmental elitists) reacted to substances they thought were evil by turning them into profitable industries. They did it during the years of alcohol prohibition, and they are doing it now with marijuana. And IMO the real reason they're doing it is because they are uptight, judgmental elitists who cannot look at a bum on the street and consider him their equal. And the amazing thing is that many of them do this while claiming to be followers of spiritual teachers like Christ who were not so limited.
[FairfieldLife] MUM -- Lonnie Gamble
[Achievements] [The latest developments from Maharishi University of Management u] FEBRUARY 16, 2009 ⢠ISSUE 26 University Website http://www.mum.edu/[Photo1] Mr. Gamble teaches a renewable energy class at M.U.M. [Photo1] Driving a biodiesel powered bus on a field trip [Photo2] Solar oven demonstration in a permaculture class [Photo3] A student senior project: solar panels that track the sun at Abundance Ecovillage [Photo4] Students learn how to make cobb in a natural building workshop Lonnie Gamble and the Application of Natural Law Lonnie Gamble, Assistant Professor of Sustainable Living, is one of the most sought-after sustainability educators in the Midwest. As an electrical engineer, he has been interested in renewable energy since the 1980s. He has founded ten for-profit companies and two non-profits in the areas of telecommunications and renewable energy. His first energy business was in hydroelectric power, and he installed his first solar panels and wind generator in 1980. His other passion is permaculture, which led him to develop farms in Hawaii and in Iowa. Naturally, Mr. Gambleâs many areas of expertise qualified him to be one of the founding faculty of the Sustainable Living Program http://www.mum.edu/sustainable_living at Maharishi University of Management. As a full-time professor, he teaches courses on energy, permaculture design, green building, and local economy. He also supervises many of the hands-on projects students build such as a biodiesel processor, a wind generator, and a solar electric car. âI enjoyed the team-building aspect of the classes and getting something practical done,â says student Todd Ashelman, who participated in the wind generator project and several other ones. âLearning to work in a team is key to success in life.â In addition to teaching at M.U.M., Mr. Gamble teaches at Grinnell College, Iowa, and speaks at conferences and seminars all over the country. He founded Abundance Ecovillage http://www.abundance-ecovillage.com/ , a 15-acre, off-the-grid, sustainable development in Fairfield, and Big Green Summer http://www.biggreensummer.org/ , a summer educational internship program in sustainability. Mr. Gamble also lives what he teaches: his straw bale home is powered by wind and solar, he maintains an organic vegetable garden, and he runs his car on biodiesel. âMr. Gamble has years and years of experience in renewable energy,â says Mark Stimson, Sustainable Living faculty member. âHe hasnât paid an electric bill in 17 years. He always comes up with big and challenging projects for the students.â As a board member of M.U.M.âs Green Trust, he contributes to the University's efforts to create a more sustainable campus. He also participates in student and faculty recruitment, and, due to his and his departmentâs efforts, the Sustainable Living Program prides itself as the largest and fastest growing undergraduate program at M.U.M. with 70 students currently enrolled. Mr. Gamble attributes the success of the program to Maharishiâs work in shifting collective consciousness to be more in tune with Natural Law. âWe at the Sustainable Living Program are the applied branch of that Natural Law,â he says.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Yagnya
Christian Eucharistic rites are also a type of yagnya. They were developed and refined over centuries during the Roman and Byzantine empires. By form and practice they are derived from and correspond to the rites of neo-platonic theurgies performed to elevate the souls of worshipers to the cosmic and super-cosmic gods. In Hinduism yagnya is a generic term that includes pujas performed using rites derived also from tantras and agamas. Thus an Agni-hotra is only one type of yagnya. An abhisheka performed for Shiva Mahadeva is a ritual ablution used for bathing a shiva-lingam in various fluid substances - sugar water, honey, milk, yogurt, perfume-water and ordinary water. No fire is necessary; water and milk will suffice. However, most Maha-Rudra-Abhishekams also are performed after an Agni-hotra is conducted first. Offering the fruits of the incredible labor needed to produce wine and bread allows Eucharistic rites to enfold human productivity, not just nature's own growths. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: I just found out Jindal was born as a Hindu, but converted to Roman Catholicism. In either case, both religions perform yagyas. You don't have to be a TMer to appreciate the support of Nature through yagyas. Somehow in my 14 yrs of catholic education I missed attending or hearing about the catholic fire ceremonies to the vedic gods. Look again at what was done by the priests. At certain masses, the priest would pour incense into the fire, the censer. The smoke coming from the censer is spread around the altar to purify the location for the sacrifice. As a matter of fact, the entire mass can be considered a fire ceremony. The fire lies within each individual present at the mass.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mourning in America
Bhairitu wrote: Some people including this woman caller on local KGO talk radio yesterday morning feel they aren't going to get any help from the government... Why should American taxpayers be bailing out people that live in your state? Your state politicians have been been living in a fantasy world of overspending, investment-deadening taxation and job-killing regulation. When do you think they will wake up? Now they have to crawl to Obama and beg for a bailout. It's simple: you can't afford your own workforce - too much welfare. You probably already realize this being the owner of your own business. There are a host of reasons why California has become toxic to business, ranging from the highest personal income tax rate in the country (small business owners are especially hard hit by PITs), to an environmental regulatory regime that has made electricity so expensive businesses simply can't compete in California. Read more: 'Should We Let California Go Bankrupt?' Posted by Steven Malanga: http://tinyurl.com/cy6rxe
[FairfieldLife] CIA debriefs Prez on crack cocaine
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[FairfieldLife] HONK! If youre paying my mortgage.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mourning in America
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Some people including this woman caller on local KGO talk radio yesterday morning feel they aren't going to get any help from the government... Why should American taxpayers be bailing out people that live in your state? Your state politicians have been been living in a fantasy world of overspending, investment-deadening taxation and job-killing regulation. I've already mentioned this here. They should have set their budgets at a median between max revenue and minimum revenue then they wouldn't be in this mess. They all acted like a bunch of little kids thinking that boom times were going to go on forever. But this has nothing to do with the caller on the radio show. She thought the federal government should do something for her. When do you think they will wake up? Now they have to crawl to Obama and beg for a bailout. It's simple: you can't afford your own workforce - too much welfare. You probably already realize this being the owner of your own business. There are a host of reasons why California has become toxic to business, ranging from the highest personal income tax rate in the country (small business owners are especially hard hit by PITs), to an environmental regulatory regime that has made electricity so expensive businesses simply can't compete in California. Read more: 'Should We Let California Go Bankrupt?' Posted by Steven Malanga: http://tinyurl.com/cy6rxe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mourning in America
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Some people including this woman caller on local KGO talk radio yesterday morning feel they aren't going to get any help from the government... Why should American taxpayers be bailing out people that live in your state? Your state politicians have been been living in a fantasy world of overspending, investment-deadening taxation and job-killing regulation. When do you think they will wake up? Now they have to crawl to Obama and beg for a bailout. It's simple: you can't afford your own workforce - too much welfare. You probably already realize this being the owner of your own business. There are a host of reasons why California has become toxic to business, ranging from the highest personal income tax rate in the country (small business owners are especially hard hit by PITs), to an environmental regulatory regime that has made electricity so expensive businesses simply can't compete in California. Read more: 'Should We Let California Go Bankrupt?' Posted by Steven Malanga: http://tinyurl.com/cy6rxe I don't think you listened to the radio show. This wasn't about the California state budget. As for this Ahnuld was making a joke when he told governors who didn't want bailout money to send it to him. And I've already said many times that Californians are spoiled and want everything but not pay for it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
Bob, how did you know that posted passage was quoting Lincoln? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Disgusting. This thread has devolved into where's the best Mexican food? I understand gallows humor, but I don't understand the caustic and haughty sniping at these poor kids who are now in a hell that cannot be imagined unless one has lived that reality too. These are our spiritual grandchildren -- they were raised in the FF village. This is not a time for whispered chuckles about these kids. Shame on anyone who's thinking these kids're going to get anything near to justice -- brevity cut No justice? Well, they'll proly get some due process of law. there is, even now, something of ill-omen, amongst us. I mean the increasing disregard for law which pervades the country; the growing disposition to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgment of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for the executive ministers of justice. This disposition is awfully fearful in any community; and that it now exists in ours, though grating to our feelings to admit, it would be a violation of truth, and an insult to our intelligence, to deny. ** Say it, Abe! http://snipurl.com/cdqjz [books_google_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Several Maharishi Graduates Busted For Growing Pot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote: Bob, how did you know that posted passage was quoting Lincoln? * Because Google has scanned so many books that you can enter a phrase into Google search and it frequently comes up on top of the searches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: there is, even now, something of ill-omen, amongst us. I mean the increasing disregard for law which pervades the country; the growing disposition to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgment of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for the executive ministers of justice. This disposition is awfully fearful in any community; and that it now exists in ours, though grating to our feelings to admit, it would be a violation of truth, and an insult to our intelligence, to deny. ** Say it, Abe! http://snipurl.com/cdqjz [books_google_com]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Yagnya
On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:57 PM, emptybill wrote: Christian Eucharistic rites are also a type of yagnya. They were developed and refined over centuries during the Roman and Byzantine empires. By form and practice they are derived from and correspond to the rites of neo-platonic theurgies performed to elevate the souls of worshipers to the cosmic and super-cosmic gods. Worth mentioning in this regard is that some of the few remaining Neoplatonic gnostic practitioners are/were in Iraq. That is till George W. Bush rocked their world. You see, they're seen as filthy and infidels in Islamic-majority Iraq. Under Saddam Hussein, their existence was tolerated and maintained. But since W. 'brought Democracy' to Iraq, the 'Religion of Peace' majority has used this opportunity to commit genocide on these people. Some made it to Syria or Jordan. Others are, as we speak, living in the Boston area where they've been relocated. But there's a problem. These people cannot be evacuated and given asylum in the US fast enough, because they can't get the visas which will allow mass resettlement to take place. Current resettlement policy settles them across the globe--but since they don't believe in conversion (you have to be born into the sect to be an initiate) this is actually a recipe for extinction. P-2 visa status is desperately needed. Since the US Gov't doesn't want to distinguish between different religious groups of need in the Iraq mess, the future of these groups, who speak an ancient variant of Aramaic, is hanging in the balance. Interesting, one of the few groups that practiced Neoplatonic rites in the west, the Cathars, were previously exterminated by the Catholic church. Now another religion, quite literally, promises to finish them off. Now's the time to call your senator and engage human rights groups to save the Mandaeans and Sabians from extinction. Otherwise a rare world treasure may be lost.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yearbook Page at MUM LIbrary
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Who has died? From my years? Calvin Haynes and Walter McLean are the two I know of. I don't know if you knew them or not.
[FairfieldLife] Weird message board on MUM web server
I just stumbled upon this: http://forums.mum.edu/mb/whosarat Which seems to be associated with some sort of cloak'n'dagger conspiracy site, WhosaRat.com WTF?
[FairfieldLife] The American Mandaeans
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
People of stature who met him at more intimate gatherings remarked on his ordinariness. However he was extra-ordinary when in front of a crowd giving a speech. He gave darshsana because he was a channel for pure power - which he himself understood in a Nietchean manner. He was not a channeler possessed by some spirit but rather was a powerful soul. As you know shakti means power (dynamis), not energy or work (energia). His tale is a warning about the dark side of shakti, artfully left out of conversations by shakti worshipers and matriarcal fantisizers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0 Forget to mention, judging by how his dog(s?) behaved near him, he might have had a rather powerful darshana.
Re: [FairfieldLife] HONK! If you’re paying my mort gage.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com wrote: Get yours today! You can make a donation online below with a credit or debit card or print out our order form and order by mail with a check or money order. Read more: http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/71410/ OK, Obama and Benake have both admitted that there were people who bought a house they couldn't afford and they knew it. The problem is separating these out. Of course it's good for home values to go back to where they were in 1995 but the massive shrinkage in wealth would really bring on a depression. We're going to have to bite the bullet and help all who need it, provided that they are, as Obama said in his Congressional speech, making a good face effort to pay their mortgage. The way Obama talked, he is happy with the plan already in place to lower mortgages $2,400 a year or a bit more. The thing is, $200 a year is a drop in the bucket for those who bought way over their head. So there's a safety catch right there that'll prevent us from paying the mortgage on those who knew they didn't have any hope of paying off the mortgage and the speculators. I read through the entire preamble to a budget outline Obama submitted for 2010. Man, this is not going to fly. There are so many entitlements that he intends to cut out or lower, including subsidies to good old Iowa farmers. I caught a glimpse of CNN Asian Edition where Obama was equating the economic crisis to a thread to the national security of the country. Hmm. That worked for GW Bush, why not give it a try, eh? Perhaps Obama can resurrect Line Item Veto from the courts? If Reagan had it and Obama is undoing Reagan's legacy, why can't Obama have a line item veto?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:12 PM, cardemaister wrote: I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0 From FFL message # 16079: Maharishi on Hitler This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years, including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He’s now with a different teacher. We had a private discussion about this a couple of months ago and I asked if I could post this. He said I could but asked that I not mention his name. Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement, that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, celebrating Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about the whole thing. I remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few years back during our 6-month course in Arosa (we were good friends during that course): that Maharishi had met with the Germans in Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented Hitler as a great demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were different and that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader. I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad that he did so much indiscriminate killing. All these caused me quite a shock at the time, and finally I decided to confront a question that had bothered me from childhood: how could intelligent, sophisticated Germans (and some of the leaders of his party and the SS were indeed sophisticated and intelligent) follow him? Some of them were reputed to be lovers of classical music, devoted husbands, doting fathers, fond of animals and loved to tend their rose gardens -- but had no problem going to work in the morning, work being the extermination of yet another transport of thousands of Jews. I asked one of my German friends to get me some Nazi literature about Hitler, that I was interested in learning more about how THEY viewed him. One of them got me a few magazines which were published on high-quality paper, with no ads (so a lot of money was involved). The magazines were all in German. I struggled through the articles, and was particularly struck by two of them: one about Hitler's love affairs, and another an account by his driver, who was the last person to see Hitler alive. The one about the love affairs was interesting: it turned out, that although he was partially impotent -- some of his aids were constantly on the lookout for any medical doctor who could provide him with a preparation to increase his potency -- once he had an affair with a woman, that woman was so enamored with him, that when he left her she committed suicide. This has happened a number of times. It even happened in the case of a British woman, who was in England when Churchill declared war, so she could not return to Germany and committed suicide from agony. Such was his charisma and power over people. But what was much more revealing to me was the account of his driver. As he was describing Hitler's last hours, he was speaking about the terrible loss and bereavement that he experienced -- and there was something heartbreaking about his devotion to Hitler. I'm serious: I completely identified with his intense emotions. I was only familiar with such powerful emotions in relationship to God or to one's Guru -- but here was a person who was relating to Hitler in this way, and was still lamenting his death so many years later, knowing all that he had done! I later on saw a BBC 6-hr documentary program on the rise of Nazism. They interviewed a person who worked with him closely at one point. And that person spoke about Hitler with the same passion that one speaks of one's Guru. He described his experience of interacting with Hitler -- there's no other way to describe it, except a spiritual experience -- and said, in this regard: I saw this side of Hitler, Hitler's most beautiful side; and no one can take it away from me. That is the Hitler I know and cherish. Why am I saying all this? Because that was the first time I understood how Hitler could have done what he had done. People who came in contact with him had a spiritual experience, and you know how such a profound experience often makes you surrender your discriminating ability. And you can even do atrocities. It was also the first time I realized that the power of spiritual people to give experience is potentially dangerous. It made me realize, that had I been a non-Jewish German at the time of Hitler, I could have potentially joined to Nazi party -- if that was the transmission that came out of Hitler. My response to this was: This is interesting stuff. As you know, the Vedas depict many great
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:01 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: His tale is a warning about the dark side of shakti, artfully left out of conversations by shakti worshipers and matriarcal fantisizers. Perhaps it's this dark side which draw the TM abusers to this Yahoo group day after day. They can speak only negative about TM. OK, so they've made their point. Now why don't they just don't get tired and leave. Remember that Hitler's SS had a great fascination with things of the East. They took a number of field trips to the Himalayas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
Okay sorry - Original Message - From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Fuck Dude was I wasted when I wrote that or what. Marijuana causing paranoid episodes and bad spelling. Just accept my apologies please. I was trying to say cuntface, which frankly I find complimentary, but whatever. It was fucking Mardi Gras. Kirk, The person you are addressing is a dudette, for your information. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: When the host of a Finnish talk show asked Maharishi in 1973, what would Hitler have been like had he been meditating, Maharishi answered: The story that went around was that he said: ... he would have made a wonderful Centre Chairman. Uns. I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler was a second degree Initiate. Maharishi was very well aware of this fact, thus His conforming that Hitler could have done much good to the world if he had not chosen to do do the opposite. Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0
Re: [FairfieldLife] Weird message board on MUM web server
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: I just stumbled upon this: http://forums.mum.edu/mb/whosarat Which seems to be associated with some sort of cloak'n'dagger conspiracy site, WhosaRat.com WTF? Obviously just an extension of the Ron Paul for President/Let Me Do Anything I Want Party still alive and well in Fairfield. There appear to be a lot of members of that party right here on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Apple Cider Vinegar Usage And Dosage
Apple Cider Vinegar Usage And Dosage The benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar can be traced back to Biblical times, the ancient Egyptians, Hippocrates, treated his patients with Apple Cider Vinegar (or ACV). Julius Caesar’s army used ACV to stay healthy and fight off disease. The Greeks and Romans kept vinegar vessels for healing and flavoring, and Samurai warriors drank it for strength and power. Today the benefits of ACV are still being felt and used daily, the traditional dosage of ACV is 2-3 Tsp of ACV in 8 oz of water 3x a day. Add honey to taste. Arthritis Two teaspoons of ACV to eight-ounce glass of water also add 2 teaspoons of honey 3x a day. For external use, Soak the painful joint (hand or foot) in a hot but comfortable solution of ACV for ten minutes, two to three times a day a quarter of a cup of ACV to one and a half cups of water. For painful knees or shoulder you can make a poultice by soaking a cloth in a mixture of ACV and water. A quarter of a cup of ACV to one and a half cups of water. Repeat as needed though out the day. Athlete's foot Soak a cloth or cotton ball in ACV and apply it to the entire foot twice a day. Let ACV air dry before you put your socks and shoes on. Acne Apply a solution of ACV and water, 2 tablespoons to eight-ounce glass of water with a cloth or cotton ball several times a day. This will help reduce infection and dry out inflammation. Asthma One tablespoonful of ACV added to a glass of water and sip for half and hour. The wheezing should lessen in intensity. If wheezing still persist a second glass of the same mixture can be taken. Deep breathing exercises are also a beneficial treatment. Apple cider vinegar baths ACV baths can, alleviate itchiness, poison ivy, and sunburn discomfort. Use 2-4 cups ACV in a hot bath. It will also help combat “unfriendly” bacteria. . Candida An inexpensive remedy can be found by douching with a solution of ACV until the symptoms disappear. Add 2 tablespoons of ACV to a quart of lukewarm water. Cholesterol Two or 3 teaspoons to eight-ounces glass of water followed by a lifestyle that includes eating a diet high in fruits and vegetables, maintaining your weight, exercising and avoiding processed foods. The amino acids contained in ACV can neutralize some of the harmful oxidized LDL cholesterol. Colds One teaspoon of ACV to ½ cup of water several times a day. It has been found that the pH factor of the body becomes a bit more alkaline prior to a cold or flu. When you take ACV it helps to rebalance the acid level of your body. Coughs Two teaspoons of ACV and 1-2 teaspoons of honey mixed with a glassful of water should be taken before meals, or when the irritation occurs. Diabetes Try a daily 2 or 3 teaspoons of ACV to eight-ounces glass of water. Adding dietary fiber, as contained in AVC, is said to be beneficial in controlling blood glucose levels. Dizziness Two teaspoons of ACV together with 2 teaspoons of honey in a glass of water 3x a day should help with dizziness considerably. However, one should never expect instant results, but you will notice a lessened of intensity. Eczema Take the usual dosage of ACV and honey in a glassful of water 3x a day, with meals. An application of well-diluted ACV can also be applied to the skin several times daily 1 teaspoonful to half a cup of water. There is usually a potassium deficiency in those people suffering from eczema. Fatigue Regular use of ACV can help beat fatigue. Take the usual dosage of ACV and honey in a glassful of water 3x a day, with meals. Food Poisoning There have been many cases where people who were taking ACV regularly did not suffer from food poisoning. ACV has an antiseptic quality that seems to combat food poisoning. Hay fever Before the onset of the hay-fever season the ordinary dosage of ACV and honey should then be taken 2-3 teaspoons of ACV and 1-2 teaspoons of honey in a glass of water, three times a day. This dosage should be maintained during the entire hay-fever season. Headaches There are several types of headache, caused by various reasons. An effective remedy is to take equal parts of ACV and water, place in a small pan on the stove, allow it to boil slowly. When the steam begin to raise from the pan lean your head over it until the fumes are comfortably strong. Inhale for approximately 50 to 80 breaths. Generally this alleviates the headache considerably, if not entirely. Inhaling the vapors from a small bottle of ACV can also help or if you have a vaporizer, add some ACV to the water and inhale the vapors for five minutes. Heartburn-Hiccups Taking the usual dosage of ACV and water before meals to help alleviate the unpleasant feeling of heartburn. Sore throat A gargle made from ACV and water could prove to be a great relief for a sore throat - be that a bacterial or virus infection. The solution is a 50/50 mixture, spit out the solution after gargling, and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yearbook Page at MUM LIbrary
Calvin if he was the staffer. Not sure of the other. One of my friends Sara had a big family I heard. Older Bender girl married and helped me do that dinner thing. So many people really I would like to know about. I have done a search for everyone once but nobody has a web presence. I remember looking across Yajnavalkya Hall once and seing my huge class of weird people like me and feeling a love that almost killed me. The first two weeks I got to MIU were such a relief from North Hollywood that I couldn't stop laughing. In the 85 yearbook I look wierd because I had died my hair blonde and red for an airband show with Scott Puffer and Beth et all that old crowd, and the school made me die it black which with the lack of any suntan made me look sort of stark, and weirdly intelligent. I like that picture of me. I remember you well from back then Alex. Not that we knew each other. But Annapurna was a small village. You know, we had a Selassie related to Hailie my year. We had a big burly black guy my first year. From New Orleans. He was my first impression of this place, and given his character I had a natural liking for it here (NOLA). Partially leading to my move. I want to go on but I have this one lasting thought about my MIU experience and it is this - it was an historic experiment in trying to change the world for the better. The Berlin wall fell after Taste of Utopia. There's no telling what a football stadium full of sidhas could do. I do believe that we could fly. It will take an American guru someday to make such a thing happen, after the mysticism of guruism is gone. We all who had the kundalini and we who worked and served the world we lit it. Someday it will spark and flare up. Of course I have been to other non-TM events like Kalachakra Toronto but as anyone who sat in the dome could tell you (during the heydays) there was some strong shakti. Not to slight HHDL or anything. It's called Merlot. - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yearbook Page at MUM LIbrary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Who has died? From my years? Calvin Haynes and Walter McLean are the two I know of. I don't know if you knew them or not. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Weird message board on MUM web server
Look to the left and look to the right. Just kidding. - Original Message - From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Weird message board on MUM web server I just stumbled upon this: http://forums.mum.edu/mb/whosarat Which seems to be associated with some sort of cloak'n'dagger conspiracy site, WhosaRat.com WTF? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:12 PM, cardemaister wrote: I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0 From FFL message # 16079: Maharishi on Hitler This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years, including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's now with a different teacher. I know this fellow, ask him how he felt when the the germans shouted endlosung now - final solution- during programme ! He simply did not understand their unstressing, their unstressing of family-line going back for generations. In fact he understood very little. Maharishi told him in Boppard to relax since his intellect was sharp. Did he unerstand even such a simply statement ? No. He would always chatter away on his computer until very late at night and was detested by his neighbours. The fellow you are reffering to is Igal.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:01 PM, emptybill wrote: His tale is a warning about the dark side of shakti, artfully left out of conversations by shakti worshipers and matriarcal fantisizers. Bill, I suspect people who followed asuriac gurus in previous lives, as if stuck in some cosmic groove, are often doomed to repeat those patterns. Often that means defending their new asura. Bizarre, huh?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Feb 21 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 28 00:00:00 2009 743 messages as of (UTC) Thu Feb 26 23:42:53 2009 48 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 44 authfriend jst...@panix.com 41 Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net 38 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 38 I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com 36 Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com 31 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 30 Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@yahoo.com 27 Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com 24 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com 24 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 22 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 22 bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com 20 do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com 19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 19 boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com 18 enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 17 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 16 yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com 13 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 12 shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net 12 geezerfreak geezerfr...@yahoo.com 11 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 11 Peter drpetersutp...@yahoo.com 10 grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.com 9 arhatafreespe...@yahoo.com 9 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 9 Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com 9 Marek Reavis reavisma...@sbcglobal.net 8 yateendrajee mcint...@scn.org 8 ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.com 8 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 8 John jr_...@yahoo.com 7 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 6 BillyG. wg...@yahoo.com 5 at_man_and_brahman at_man_and_brah...@sbcglobal.net 4 Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@gmail.com 4 Dick Richardson somerse...@yahoo.com 3 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 3 shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca 3 off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com 3 gullible fool ffl...@yahoo.com 2 wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com 2 paultrunk paultr...@yahoo.com 2 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 2 hermandan0 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 2 dan hawkeye422...@yahoo.com 2 wle...@aol.com 2 Patrick Gillam jpgil...@yahoo.com 2 Joe Smith msilver1...@yahoo.com 2 Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com 1 uns_tressor uns_tres...@yahoo.ca 1 sanosh2002 sanosh2...@yahoo.com 1 pranamoocher bh...@hotmail.com 1 metoostill metoost...@yahoo.com 1 mainstream20016 mainstream20...@yahoo.com 1 guyfawkes91 guyfawke...@yahoo.com 1 billy jim emptyb...@yahoo.com 1 amarnath anatol_z...@yahoo.com 1 Larry inmadi...@hotmail.com 1 Hugo richardhughes...@hotmail.com 1 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 1 Eustace emf...@nyu.edu 1 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 1 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan-=C5ke_Ingvar_J=F6nsson?= transcendentalcosmicbl...@yahoo.se Posters: 66 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@... wrote: 44 authfriend jst...@... For the record, I did notice in my Gmail feed of FFL traffic that Judy double posted the same thing, yesterday, at 7:35pm on the Earth eclipses the sun thread. So, that puts Judy at 43.
[FairfieldLife] Obama's life is in danger, according to Invincible America
Stipends are being given out for foreigners again to up the numbers on IA. A bunch of the people I typically sponsor are making flight arrangements to go ASAP. I'm on my way to a town called Bum Fuck so I won't be able to join them. It appears a joytishi looked at Obama's chart and decided that he is in grave danger. Well, Obama has lasted in office longer than I ever expected he would. I wish him well and long life, preferably in another line of work.
[FairfieldLife] Amazing, Funny Parrot!!!!
This Parrot is AMAZING! http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=OPz2MYp67ic http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama's life is in danger, according to Invincible America
I am the eternal wrote: Stipends are being given out for foreigners again to up the numbers on IA. A bunch of the people I typically sponsor are making flight arrangements to go ASAP. I'm on my way to a town called Bum Fuck so I won't be able to join them. It appears a joytishi looked at Obama's chart and decided that he is in grave danger. Well, Obama has lasted in office longer than I ever expected he would. I wish him well and long life, preferably in another line of work. What's wrong with what Obama's doing now? Or are you so unfortunate that you are making more than $250K a year? If so, we all feel really sorry for your hardship. Were you raised by Republicans? Have you not yet learned that free markets don't work? And that trickle down means peeing on the public? Obama is quite talented. I just read on Raw Story that he is going to shoot down an North Korea missile if they launch it. I wonder if that is by remote control from the White House? He must play more video games than has been reported. I also read he is ending the raids on medical marijuana clubs. About time. Let's not waste any more money on drug wars. He should appoint Ron Paul drug czar. And wasn't it great to listen to someone who could speak to a higher level of intellect than second graders like Bush did? But then who would you want as president? Sarah Palin. ROTFL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's life is in danger, according to Invincible America
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:36 PM, I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com wrote: Stipends are being given out for foreigners again to up the numbers on IA. A bunch of the people I typically sponsor are making flight arrangements to go ASAP. I'm on my way to a town called Bum Fuck so I won't be able to join them. It appears a joytishi looked at Obama's chart and decided that he is in grave danger. Well, Obama has lasted in office longer than I ever expected he would. I wish him well and long life, preferably in another line of work. Sidhas and Governors Around the World SPECIAL INVITATION Join the Invincible America Assembly It is a great joy to offer to our global family of Sidhas and Governors the precious opportunity once again to join the Invincible America Assembly being held at Maharishi University of Management campus in Fairfield, Iowa. Beginning March 1st you can be Assembly guests for up to five months ÷ and receive a full grant award of room and board! The Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for Invincible America will offer full sponsorship for the first 100 international applicants accepted to the Assembly. Sponsorship will include: ð Private room on campus ÷ most are newly renovated with shared bath ÷ within a two-minute walk of the Golden Domes ð Organic vegetarian meals at the Argiro Student Center ð The full Invincible America Assembly rounding program The minimum time commitment is 3 months. The maximum stay is 5 months, due to the anticipated large number of new MUM students next Fall. The Settle Foundation offers this invitation in grateful recognition of the noble Sidhas from around the world, who have played such key roles in bringing invincibility to the United States, and to their own countries. As part of your application process we ask that you please provide a copy of a letter from your national movement organization confirming that you are qualified to receive this grant award. We ask that any Sidha or Governor currently participating in an invincibility group in your home country please continue to do so. ÊWe also ask that Sidhas who wish to join the Assembly please be able to communicate in English. We look forward to your joining our family of 2,000 Yogic Flyers, and enjoying the most powerful, evolutionary atmosphere on Earth. JAI GURU DEV INVINCIBLE AMERICA ASSEMBLY Questions and Answers for International Applicants If I come, will I receive the $700 Invincible America Grant? Yes, but not in the form of cash. Instead, international Invincible America participants will receive a sponsorship award in the form of room, board, and the full Invincible America rounding program. You will also receive a 10% discount to the Golden Dome Market and MUM Bookstore. Any incidental expenses will still be your responsibility. What if I can only come for one month? You are more than welcome to come for one month. However, the Settle Foundation sponsorship will be awarded only to those who can make a minimum 3-month commitment. Those coming for less than three months will be asked to cover their room and board expenses. What is the latest I could come and still receive the full sponsorship? The sponsorship is being offered during a five-month window beginning March 1 and ending July 31, 2009. To meet the minimum three-month time commitment and be eligible for the sponsorship you need to arrive no later than May 1. How long will it take for my application to be processed? Please allow up to three weeks. You can apply on line at www.invincibleamerica.org http://www.invincibleamerica.org/ . Supporting documents for obtaining your visitor visa will be sent to you via e-mail once your application is completed and accepted. You say we need a letter from our National Leader stating we are qualified to receive the Invincible America Sponsorship. What will this letter say? This letter from your National Leader needs to state that (a) you are a Sidha or Governor in good standing in your country and (b) because you have provided services to your nation through participation in programs for creating coherence and or through consciousness-based teaching activities, you are deemed deserving of the Settle Foundation Sponsorship award. We will provide a letter template for your National Leader to use for this purpose. You can submit it by email. What are the requirements for group program? Everyone should be aware that they will be required to participate in the full morning and evening group program, including long Yogic Flying. Why only a five-month window and why now? By mid-August, we expect all these rooms on the M.U.M. campus to be needed for incoming new students. Where are these rooms and what are they like? These very nicely renovated rooms are so close to the Golden Domes that you will be able to walk there in two minutes. (They are in the frat buildings, if you are familiar with the campus. Most men will live in Frats 110 and 111, and most ladies
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's life is in danger, according to Invincible America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: Stipends are being given out for foreigners again to up the numbers on IA. A bunch of the people I typically sponsor are making flight arrangements to go ASAP. I'm on my way to a town called Bum Fuck so I won't be able to join them. It appears a joytishi looked at Obama's chart and decided that he is in grave danger. Well, Obama has lasted in office longer than I ever expected he would. I wish him well and long life, preferably in another line of work. Just remember who got us into this Mess: Primarily Ronald Reagan and George Bush... Both of them should have stayed in their lines of work. Reagan= Actor. Bush= Baseball Team Owner.
[FairfieldLife] Popular Mechanics Yellow Journalism on The International
Apparently the executives at Hearst Publications are worried that people might believe the central theme in the movie The International. So they've written up an article just like their famous 9-11 debunking attempt to debunk the movie. http://www.origin.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4303623.html The International's plotters say that by promoting war, the bank will create a demand for weapons that the African nations can't afford. This is not about making profits from weapons sales, explains one character. It's about controlling the debt that the conflict produces. If you control the debt, you control everything. It's a line ripped from the headlines of newspapers printed in the early 1990s. Yes, nowadays our banks are sterling examples of ethical behavior, are they not? I mean who could imagine that a bunch of swindlers or crooks could run a big international bank? Or mismanage one? Total fiction. When I saw this film with a friend the minute the lines quoted above were said we looked at each as to say so spot on! Maybe the Popular Mechanics crew ought to go back to writing articles about fixing lawnmowers and rain gutters. That's more their speed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's life is in danger, according to Invincible America
Have a look at these Obama-facts and statements: Barack Obama: The Naked Emperor: www.davidicke.com/obama Obama-lies, which Obama did you vote for?: http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=5630 The Obama Deception: http://www.obamadeception.net/ __ Låna pengar utan säkerhet. Jämför vilkor online hos Kelkoo. http://www.kelkoo.se/c-100390123-lan-utan-sakerhet.html?partnerId=96915014
[FairfieldLife] Re: Weird message board on MUM web server
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: I just stumbled upon this: http://forums.mum.edu/mb/whosarat Which seems to be associated with some sort of cloak'n'dagger conspiracy site, WhosaRat.com WTF? Seems to be some sort of DNS mixup: 02/26/09 18:46:03 dns forums.mum.edu Canonical name: websitetoolbox.com Aliases: forums.mum.edu www.websitetoolbox.com 02/26/09 18:46:16 dns 12.144.36.179 nslookup 12.144.36.179 Canonical name: websitetoolbox.com Aliases: 179.36.144.12.in-addr.arpa Addresses: 12.144.36.179 forums.mum.edu and websitetoolbox.com both lookup to the same IP address, which looks up only to the websitetoolbox.com domain name. There are also other domain names that point to the same IP address. All the forums on this page will work with forums.mum.edu as the domain name: http://websitetoolbox.com/message_board/examples.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's life is in danger, according to Invincible America
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Jan-Åke Ingvar Jönsson transcendentalcosmicbl...@yahoo.se wrote: Have a look at these Obama-facts and statements: Barack Obama: The Naked Emperor: www.davidicke.com/obama Obama-lies, which Obama did you vote for?: http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=5630 The Obama Deception: http://www.obamadeception.net/ Very good. Now if only I can get Gmail filters to make Bhairitu's posts invisible. A quick history of Obama. Ran unopposed for the Illinois legislature because of constant challenging of other candidate's legitimate claims to be on the ballot. Soon after ran for US Senator. Held no position of distinction in the US Senate during his single term. Quickly started running for US president. While campaigning, refused to reveal his birth certificate, resulting in many law suits around the country still pending which challenge the legality of his election to the presidency. Also refused to provide school, college, law school transcripts and work product. No evidence that Obama actually wrote any law opinions or did any publishable legal writing despite being head of the law review. No significant legislation proposed in the Senate. In short, no real experience in government. No details in his record to have to campaign in spite of. Spoke about redoing the NAFTA during his campaign. Of all the hundreds of things he's promised since becoming President, the only thing he's done about NAFTA was to go to Canada and tell the Canadians how much he loved them. Just the kind of man we needed as ink blotch that we can all project our malcontent with the current government on. Pretty much another JFK, who's only real contribution in politics was to get killed in office and therefore get people teary eyed about the hype that wasn't any more than that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
Excellent post. Thank your friend for allowing you to place this story with us. While your friend's response, although measured in the middle, retreated into moralism, in the end your own response accorded well with the greater view present in dharmic culture. It is a view both mature and balanced. By the way, this story you recounted reminded me of the movie Invincible wherein subtle methods of Nazi propaganda were artistically copied to present a Jewish picture of religious fidelity in contrast to the amorality of the goy. The same view of the goy was presented in the movie Cabaret. I find this hilariously ironic. What is also funny is that in film and thought, Nazis are presented as human demons. However we aren't demons are we? We could never do this - could we? This is an important question because if the Nazis were simply demons then there is nothing we can learn from their actions. Of course we are educated smartniks of the 21st Century. We know those Nazis were human. What is not so obvious is that Shakti was driving them all and was and still is the driver of the whole creation. Shakti worshipers praise Her with their lips but not with insight. In place of insight they substitute sentimentality. Yet the fact remains that we live in a self-devouring universe and few things are as vicious or frightening as the shocking cruelties played out in nature every moment. We expect more than vicious cruelty from humans but Shakti shows no such concern for us any of us. So to finish, you show surprising equanimity of view about this subject. Maybe you will some day bring that same balanced view here onto this forum and give up the projectile vomiting (for which you seem to believe you have received a special adhikara). Hope you do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:12 PM, cardemaister wrote: I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0 From FFL message # 16079: Maharishi on Hitler This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years, including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's now with a different teacher. We had a private discussion about this a couple of months ago and I asked if I could post this. He said I could but asked that I not mention his name. Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement, that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, celebrating Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about the whole thing. I remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few years back during our 6-month course in Arosa (we were good friends during that course): that Maharishi had met with the Germans in Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented Hitler as a great demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were different and that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader. I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad that he did so much indiscriminate killing. All these caused me quite a shock at the time, and finally I decided to confront a question that had bothered me from childhood: how could intelligent, sophisticated Germans (and some of the leaders of his party and the SS were indeed sophisticated and intelligent) follow him? Some of them were reputed to be lovers of classical music, devoted husbands, doting fathers, fond of animals and loved to tend their rose gardens -- but had no problem going to work in the morning, work being the extermination of yet another transport of thousands of Jews. I asked one of my German friends to get me some Nazi literature about Hitler, that I was interested in learning more about how THEY viewed him. One of them got me a few magazines which were published on high-quality paper, with no ads (so a lot of money was involved). The magazines were all in German. I struggled through the articles, and was particularly struck by two of them: one about Hitler's love affairs, and another an account by his driver, who was the last person to see Hitler alive. The one about the love affairs was interesting: it turned out, that although he was partially impotent -- some of his aids were constantly on the lookout for any medical doctor who could provide him with a preparation to increase his potency -- once he had an affair with a woman, that woman was so enamored with him, that when he left her she committed suicide. This has happened a number of times. It even happened in the case of a British woman, who was in England when Churchill declared war, so she could not return to Germany and committed suicide from agony. Such was his charisma and power over people. But what was much more revealing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
On Feb 26, 2009, at 9:21 PM, emptybill wrote: So to finish, you show surprising equanimity of view about this subject. Maybe you will some day bring that same balanced view here onto this forum and give up the projectile vomiting (for which you seem to believe you have received a special adhikara). Hope you do. Sorry to disappoint you Bill, but that was written by our own dear Rick. I will continue to comment, as appropriate, on your latest incarnational asuriac guru, a la Linda Blair, if necessary--although I know you are really trying to exaggerate for your imagined audience. It is my hope that you would have already removed your lips from M's as*, as that would've seemed natural for someone who ran away from Fiuggi as quick as he could!...and doesn't even practice TM anymore, but got a new mantra from SSRS... Why the need for the new mantra Bill?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Jindal's Neighborhood
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Some of us believe that people who think that way just might be better candidates for being cate- gorized as fools. This is a good example of the never ending conflict by the powers discussed above. John, since I have now wasted several of my last posts of the week trying unsuccess- fully to get you to see where I'm coming from, I might as well waste one more. :-) Another canon fire from the other side of the battle. I happen to *love* myth. I read myths often. Some of my favorite writers of fiction, like Roger Zelazny, base their modern novels on older myths. Like Joseph Campbell, I find great value in myths. They often contain great metaphors for life, and can express relative truths about life in those metaphors. I agree with this. But John, when I read myths, I never lose sight of what it is that I am reading. I am reading FICTION. Some myths, not all, have a message to tell. Fiction stories are for entertainment, and often do not convey any universal principles for the purpose of edifying the reader. I may find *enormous* value in reading that fiction. I may gain *tremendous* insights from reading it, as I do reading the fiction of my favorite modern writers. But it's still FICTION. Most fiction stories are written to sell books for the author's bank account or notoriety. Based on the things you have written here, I have to assume that you do NOT assume that the things you read in the Vedic literature are fiction. In fact, the things you have written lead me to believe that you believe that they were often literal fact. People really DID leap from India to Sri Lanka. Blue-skinned guys really DID drive chariots and tell others who it was OK to kill and who it was not. Gods and goddesses really DID get into petty squabbles that resemble -- more than anything else -- a modern TV soap opera. You don't appear to understand what I've been saying, as shown above. This may help you to find value in the things you read. Considering them true, or even -- as you have said -- Eternal Truth may help you with the process of delving into their metaphors and finding some personal meaning or value in them. I need no such crutch. I can read these myths AS myths and gain just as much value from them as you do. Hell, I can gain just as much value from watching a good mythic movie as you gain from pouring over the Vedic literature. It all depends on what you are searching for. The values you hold true may be different from what I value. But it should be apparent that there universal principles that are common to all people and cultures, such as Truth and Integrity. The movie and the Vedas have several things in common. Both were created by human beings. Both are fiction. And both contain metaphors from which a person can discern for himself or her- self some personal meaning or value. They do have something in common. They are stories. But they differ in intent and message. So what if they are written by human beings? I'm not a fan of the notion that a Burning Bush etched in stone the ten commandments for Moses to deliver to the Hebrews. But don't ask me to believe that the movie I watched was literal truth in order to enjoy it and find value in it, eh? And similarly, don't ask me to believe that the fairy tales in the Vedas are literal truth for me to find value in them, either. I don't know what movie you watched. It all depends. Was it starring Kate Winslet or a porno queen? For some of us, it's *enough* that they are uplifting fiction to find things in them that ring true. We don't have to believe that they are fact, or Eternal Truth. That does not make us lesser than you, let alone rakshasas. In general, your arguments appear to be logical and laced with new- fangled iterations of Buddhist and agnostic ideas. But the people here on this forum do not have to agree with you. If you're satisfied with those ideas, that's fine with me. If you can convince others to your line thinking, more power to you. However, based on the reactions from the forum members, I don't see anyone lining up for your elite school of thought.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Excellent post. Thank your friend for allowing you to place this story with us. While your friend's response, although measured in the middle, retreated into moralism, in the end your own response accorded well with the greater view present in dharmic culture. It is a view both mature and balanced. I tend to disagree. Its moral waffling in grandiose but unverified terms. If you can't take a moral stand against Hitler's vast aggression and slaughter against nations and target groups (it was far more than Jews) -- then you are a sinkhole of a person. UNLESS you actually know absolutely what the mechanics were behind the scenes that would make Hitler a hero to the gods. And I think that is quite the epistimological challenge (no I KNOW because i know charlatanism). However, what is odd with the Hitler story is the casting of good and evil -- us vs them. Churchill's primary goal in the war was to save and enhance the British Empire. Sccchzzz! Say what?? I didn't sign on the saving one of the cruelest morally bankrupt empires in history. And of course the 1930's and 40s in the US was not exactly a picnic for Blacks, many Jews, most minorities and women in the US -- or in Allied countries. The Greatest Generation? Ha! I applaud and revere their sacrifices but WWII was hardly a fight against good and evil. More like different subtle states of gray. By the way, this story you recounted reminded me of the movie Invincible wherein subtle methods of Nazi propaganda were artistically copied to present a Jewish picture of religious fidelity in contrast to the amorality of the goy. The same view of the goy was presented in the movie Cabaret. I find this hilariously ironic. What is also funny is that in film and thought, Nazis are presented as human demons. However we aren't demons are we? We could never do this - could we? This is an important question because if the Nazis were simply demons then there is nothing we can learn from their actions. Of course we are educated smartniks of the 21st Century. We know those Nazis were human. What is not so obvious is that Shakti was driving them all and was and still is the driver of the whole creation. Shakti worshipers praise Her with their lips but not with insight. In place of insight they substitute sentimentality. Yet the fact remains that we live in a self-devouring universe and few things are as vicious or frightening as the shocking cruelties played out in nature every moment. We expect more than vicious cruelty from humans but Shakti shows no such concern for us any of us. So to finish, you show surprising equanimity of view about this subject. Maybe you will some day bring that same balanced view here onto this forum and give up the projectile vomiting (for which you seem to believe you have received a special adhikara). Hope you do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:12 PM, cardemaister wrote: I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0 From FFL message # 16079: Maharishi on Hitler This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years, including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's now with a different teacher. We had a private discussion about this a couple of months ago and I asked if I could post this. He said I could but asked that I not mention his name. Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement, that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, celebrating Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about the whole thing. I remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few years back during our 6-month course in Arosa (we were good friends during that course): that Maharishi had met with the Germans in Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented Hitler as a great demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were different and that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader. I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad that he did so much indiscriminate killing. All these caused me quite a shock at the time, and finally I decided to confront a question that had bothered me from childhood: how could intelligent, sophisticated Germans (and some of the leaders of his party and the SS were indeed sophisticated and intelligent) follow him? Some of them were reputed to be lovers of classical music, devoted husbands, doting fathers, fond of animals and loved to tend their rose gardens -- but had no problem going to work in the morning, work
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's life is in danger, according to Invincible America
Hope. Change. Believe. Sacrifice. Coming Together. wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Jan-Åke Ingvar Jönsson transcendentalcosmicbl...@yahoo.se wrote: Have a look at these Obama-facts and statements: Barack Obama: The Naked Emperor: www.davidicke.com/obama Obama-lies, which Obama did you vote for?: http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=5630 The Obama Deception: http://www.obamadeception.net/ Very good. Now if only I can get Gmail filters to make Bhairitu's posts invisible. You can't hide from me by changing your handle. :-P A quick history of Obama. Ran unopposed for the Illinois legislature because of constant challenging of other candidate's legitimate claims to be on the ballot. Soon after ran for US Senator. Held no position of distinction in the US Senate during his single term. Quickly started running for US president. While campaigning, refused to reveal his birth certificate, resulting in many law suits around the country still pending which challenge the legality of his election to the presidency. Also refused to provide school, college, law school transcripts and work product. No evidence that Obama actually wrote any law opinions or did any publishable legal writing despite being head of the law review. No significant legislation proposed in the Senate. In short, no real experience in government. No details in his record to have to campaign in spite of. Spoke about redoing the NAFTA during his campaign. Of all the hundreds of things he's promised since becoming President, the only thing he's done about NAFTA was to go to Canada and tell the Canadians how much he loved them. Just the kind of man we needed as ink blotch that we can all project our malcontent with the current government on. Pretty much another JFK, who's only real contribution in politics was to get killed in office and therefore get people teary eyed about the hype that wasn't any more than that. Okay, so who would you suggest that would be better (this should be interesting)?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
Vaj wrote: Sorry to disappoint you Bill, but that was written by our own dear Rick. Why very clever Vaj and sorry for my mistake. I felt so fortunate to talk directly to you again with your new viewpoint that I actually placed you in the company of the equal minded. I just assumed that the flickering tongue was a shadow on the wall behind you. Vaj wrote: It is my hope that you would have already removed your lips from M's as*, as that would've seemed natural for someone who ran away from Fiuggi as quick as he could! Yes, Vaj, so very accurate. It was 1972 and I got to the mountains to doing three months of rounding as quick as I could. Then I repeated it again the next summer. To bad it caused a bit of consternation among the TTC administrators at the courses in California but then I never could be a careful follower. I just couldn't get close enough to him for it to matter. However the long rounding in silence and solitude formed a pivotal axis for me. Vaj wrote: and doesn't even practice TM anymore, but got a new mantra from SSRS... Why the need for the new mantra Bill? Why Vaj, this sounds so inquisitorial! But so nice of you to ask because I waited seven years to get that mantra, asking for it each year I spent time with SSRS. But you know, it wasn't that I needed it rather I wanted just this kind of guru mantra from SSRS. And Vaj, it was not Sahaj mantra at all but rather a special selection he gave me, going back to the very origin of our sampradaya. It was profound and it was sweet and I still feel very grateful. Hopefully you've made the same type of connection and are not really the bitter practitioner you seem to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 9:21 PM, emptybill wrote: So to finish, you show surprising equanimity of view about this subject. Maybe you will some day bring that same balanced view here onto this forum and give up the projectile vomiting (for which you seem to believe you have received a special adhikara). Hope you do. Sorry to disappoint you Bill, but that was written by our own dear Rick. I will continue to comment, as appropriate, on your latest incarnational asuriac guru, a la Linda Blair, if necessary--although I know you are really trying to exaggerate for your imagined audience. It is my hope that you would have already removed your lips from M's as*, as that would've seemed natural for someone who ran away from Fiuggi as quick as he could!...and doesn't even practice TM anymore, but got a new mantra from SSRS... Why the need for the new mantra Bill?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's rather cryptic answer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Excellent post. Thank your friend for allowing you to place this story with us. While your friend's response, although measured in the middle, retreated into moralism, in the end your own response accorded well with the greater view present in dharmic culture. It is a view both mature and balanced. I tend to disagree. Its moral waffling in grandiose but unverified terms. If you can't take a moral stand against Hitler's vast aggression and slaughter against nations and target groups (it was far more than Jews) -- then you are a sinkhole of a person. UNLESS you actually know absolutely what the mechanics were behind the scenes that would make Hitler a hero to the gods. And I think that is quite the epistimological challenge (no I KNOW because i know charlatanism). However, what is odd with the Hitler story is the casting of good and evil -- us vs them. Churchill's primary goal in the war was to save and enhance the British Empire. Sccchzzz! Say what?? I didn't sign on the saving one of the cruelest morally bankrupt empires in history. And of course the 1930's and 40s in the US was not exactly a picnic for Blacks, many Jews, most minorities and women in the US -- or in Allied countries. The Greatest Generation? Ha! I applaud and revere their sacrifices but WWII was hardly a fight against good and evil. More like different subtle states of gray. You are becoming one of my favorite writers here. By the way, this story you recounted reminded me of the movie Invincible wherein subtle methods of Nazi propaganda were artistically copied to present a Jewish picture of religious fidelity in contrast to the amorality of the goy. The same view of the goy was presented in the movie Cabaret. I find this hilariously ironic. What is also funny is that in film and thought, Nazis are presented as human demons. However we aren't demons are we? We could never do this - could we? This is an important question because if the Nazis were simply demons then there is nothing we can learn from their actions. Of course we are educated smartniks of the 21st Century. We know those Nazis were human. What is not so obvious is that Shakti was driving them all and was and still is the driver of the whole creation. Shakti worshipers praise Her with their lips but not with insight. In place of insight they substitute sentimentality. Yet the fact remains that we live in a self-devouring universe and few things are as vicious or frightening as the shocking cruelties played out in nature every moment. We expect more than vicious cruelty from humans but Shakti shows no such concern for us any of us. So to finish, you show surprising equanimity of view about this subject. Maybe you will some day bring that same balanced view here onto this forum and give up the projectile vomiting (for which you seem to believe you have received a special adhikara). Hope you do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:12 PM, cardemaister wrote: I have a feeling that Maharishi knew something about Hitler's real nature that us ordinary people can't know... :0 From FFL message # 16079: Maharishi on Hitler This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years, including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's now with a different teacher. We had a private discussion about this a couple of months ago and I asked if I could post this. He said I could but asked that I not mention his name. Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement, that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, celebrating Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about the whole thing. I remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few years back during our 6-month course in Arosa (we were good friends during that course): that Maharishi had met with the Germans in Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented Hitler as a great demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were different and that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader. I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad that he did so much indiscriminate killing. All these caused me quite a shock at the time, and finally I decided to confront a question that had bothered me from childhood: how could intelligent, sophisticated Germans (and some of the leaders of his party and the SS were indeed sophisticated and
