[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation vs. Vedantic Contemplation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Dear Swami, As an aspirant, I have a few questions. If you're really a good Swami you won't get bent out of shape if I don't agree with you or ask challenging questions. You might even learn something new, since the best teachers always learn more then their students. Right? If you had a chance to teach millions of people meditation or a handful of monks contemplation, would you prefer teaching many or a few? If you prefer teaching only a few monks contemplation, what is the relative benefit to creating a peaceful world compared to teaching millions meditation? Do only monks practice contemplation because controlling the mind is a difficult task that most people would bail on? Do you think contemplation is superior to meditation? Why? If one practices meditation and experiences samadhi, after some time of witnessing the duality of self and non-self, there is a natural and spontaneous desire to unify self and non-self. Love naturally draws the meditator toward unity, effortlessly. Seems to me Thou are That would be the result in either meditation (easy for many) or contemplation (difficult for many). What say you? Swami Rama died about 28 years after Thomas Merton. You don't get out much do you Raunchy?
[FairfieldLife] What is kaivalya? Part 1 (draft version)
(This essay prolly contains lots of errors. I won't bother checking out every minute detail.) Levels of speech according to Sanskrit grammarians(?): - vaikharii - madhyamaa - pasyantii - paraa The long vowel at the end of each word perhaps shows that the implied head-word of those adjectives(?) is a feminine gender noun, perhaps 'vaak' (speech), whose lemma (dictionary form) is 'vaac' (pronunciation: vaach): vAc f. speech, voice, sound, word, language, discourse; also speech personif. or the goddess of speech, Sarasvati1. During mantrameditation, mantra prolly starts from the madhyamaa (inner speech??) level, and hopefully dives all the way to the paraa or transcendental level, and stays there for a shorter or longer while. The finest level of speech (paraa) prolly corresponds to the alin.ga (a-ling-gah: not-lin.ga_ish) stage of the guNas: suukSma-viSayatvaM caalin.ga-paryavasaanam (YS I 45) Taimni's translation: The province of /samaadhi/ concerned with subtle objects extends up to the /alinga/ stage of the /guNas/. aliGga n. absence of marks Comm. on Nya1yad. , (mfn.) having no marks Nir. Mun2d2Up. c. ; (in Gr.) having no gender. (In Harvard-Kyoto transliteration scheme, 'G' represents the velar nasal, English 'ng', as in 'thing')
[FairfieldLife] Re: A short message to Vaj naysayers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Duveyoung wrote: Get a fucking grip all you Vaj-naysayers out there... Maybe you should get a grip! Vaj, like Barry, you're real good at swinging your dick. But when it comes time for consummation, it becomes as limp as an overcooked piece of cannned spaghetti. Read more: From: Judy Stein Subject: Re: Inside the Jyotirmath Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Fri, September 16 2005 http://tinyurl.com/dhswx4 So its all about dick for you and Judy? Whats with that?
[FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney on the David Lynch Foundation
Paul McCartney on the David Lynch Foundation What is it about the goal of David Lynch's foundation that inspired you to participate in this concert? Paul: I like the idea of bringing an ancient practice into the modern world. Who would have thought that by introducing meditation into the education system you could lower people's aggression levels and get a more peaceful society. You traveled to India to study with Maharishi in 1968. What was the single most important idea or experience or lesson you gained while you were there? Paul: Getting a mantra from Maharishi and then learning how to use it. The rest is up to your self. So actually, being given a mantra and being taught what to do with it was the most important aspect of the tripthe rest was great fun. What are your recollections of Maharishi? How would you describe him? Paul: He was a very spiritual and intelligent man, but what made him so endearing to me was his infectious sense of humor. Why do you think it is valuable for young people to meditate? What do you think they gain from the experience? Paul: I think meditation offers a moment in your day to be at peace with yourself and therefore the universe, which once was thought of as a slightly silly hippie idea, but now it's much more accepted and even fits with some of the most advanced scientific thinking. Any particular message you would like to share with your fans? Paul: Thanks for continuing to bother to listen to me! I wish you peace, love, and laughter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?
Tell me your question is satirical John. Please? Ya know, like Doug in FF. If not, I've got some rare Upanishads I'm looking to sell. For you, because I like ya, I'll give you a good pricecuz you're spiritual and all --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Where did you learn to write Latin? Were you a priest? So, Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat? Quis nostrud exercitation excepteur sint occaecat sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt. Cupidatat non proident, duis aute irure dolor ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, excepteur sint occaecat duis aute irure dolor. Ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Sunt in culpa ullamco laboris nisi cupidatat non proident. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt duis aute irure dolor lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Mollit anim id est laborum. Consectetur adipisicing elit, sunt in culpa ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Cupidatat non proident, eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt in reprehenderit in voluptate ullamco laboris nisi. Duis aute irure dolor cupidatat non proident, consectetur adipisicing elit. Excepteur sint occaecat mollit anim id est laborum. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Quis nostrud exercitation. Eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Consectetur adipisicing elit, velit esse cillum dolore sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi!
[FairfieldLife] Carlos to Barack: legalize marry who anah!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Is Not A Religion Religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 1, 2009, at 8:28 PM, satvadude108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:42 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: They'll say ANYTHING rather than admit what MOST of them know to be the truth, that OF COURSE all of the TM dogma is based on Hindu dogma. They'll lie, they'll deny, they'll come with up excuses, they'll obfuscate, they'll attempt to distract, they'll do ANYTHING rather than violate this First Commandment. My personal fave, (paraphrased): We don't have to tell the kids what the underpinnings are, if people like John Knapp would just keep their mouths shut. Now there's a raving endorsement for the integrity of the teaching. And personally I'm getting a little tired of it. Not me, I still find it endlessly entertaining. Kinda tells you where the person who frequently says I *never* lie. sets the bar on her personal honesty. You might want to ask Sal about her personal honesty. Her paraphrase above, for example, is a knowing lie. I disagree. Sal did not knowingly lie. Aren't Judy's personal powers of mind-reading just mind-blowing? Frankly I think my little synopsis of her diatribes against TMO criticism is pretty accurate. Sal Your post was Zen like in it its accurate concise summation. You drew one arrow and put it right thru the bulleye. She knew what she was exposed doing and responded the in only way she knows. Her teat was in a wringer so she lashed out and attacked. I'm surprised she didn't twist it into your making a death threat. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Regime Change in America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, margovon margovon@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Obama Town Hall Questioners Were Campaign Backers President Obama has promised to change the way the government does business, but in at least one respect he is taking a page from the Bush playbook, stocking his town hall Thursday with supporters whose soft -- though far from planted -- questions provided openings to discuss his preferred message of the day. No comparison to BushCo's un-American fascist tactics with their 'free speech zones'. Bush played hardball and got softball questions. Obama's campaign workers played ball and gave Obama softball questions. It's still softball and not the game as advertised. ...we didn't screen anybody. Actually, I have it on good authority that there WAS screening going on. For health reasons, all PUMA members wanting to attend the Town Hall meeting were tested for rabies, and if they tested positive they were not allowed in the hall without being fitted for a muzzle. But I think it is important to remember that this was to protect the other Town Hall attendees from the spread of the disease should the PUMA folks start frothing at the mouth and attempting to bite people, and was NOT an exercise in the limitation of free speech, as was practiced during the Bush era. It was the same with the requirement that radical feminists wear bright red T-shirts with the letter 'F' printed on them during the meeting. This was also a health measure, designed to warn other attendees not to get into discussions with them, because the resulting shrieks and screaming on the part of the feminists has been proven to cause tintinitis and sometimes total deafness. Some of the radical feminists complained later that the T-shirts were a form of discrimination, and that the 'F' really stood for 'FUCKED,' but most observers in the News media wrote that off as hopeful projection, because the women saying it clearly hadn't been fucked in decades. Just trying to be helpful by providing some of the back story behind the headlines... You seriously crack me up. Thank you for the laugh.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A surprise followup to Dr. Hagelin's previous announcement
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: From: Dr. John Hagelin development@ download.globalco/0D1FFBB4.jpgdownload.globalco/0D1FFBDA.jpgdownload.glo\ balco/0D1FFC00.jpg Dear Meditators, Sidhas and Governors, By now you have probably heard that the 6,000 tickets for the upcoming April 4th Benefit Concert sold out within minutes of going on public sale! This has caused some confusion and backlash because as it turns out the Radio City Music Hall facility only holds 600 people. As a result, there is no room for most of the 6,000 people who bought tickets, only for 600. As the Laws Of Nature would have it, that happens to be the *exact* number of people still remaining in the TM movement, so everything is fine. We plan on keeping the money so kindly contributed to the David Lynch Foundation by the other 5,400 ticket purchasers, but we will compensate them by giving a substantial 10% discount on Raja Raam's new book The Vedic Physiology Of Rock 'N Roll when and if it comes out. This seeming episode of bad planning was thus nothing of the sort. It was an example of how the Laws Of Nature intervene when something is not quite right. And it has a benefit that now all of the Rajas attending don't have to leave their crowns and robes at home to hide who they are. They can appear at the concert in all their cosmically resplendent finery, certain that no members of the News media will be there to photograph them. As reported earlier, the initial press coverage of the concert has already more than doubled the number of people calling our centers and wanting to learn the TM® technique. Those four new meditators will be given complimentary passes to the concert, as long as they stand outside in the lobby and don't try to mingle with the chosen. Also as reported earlier, in anticipation of this new wave of interest in the TM technique, we have upgraded the www. TM. org servers to support the expected increased volume. They can now handle up to ten people visiting the site worldwide a day. As you may know, we base our course fees primarily on the cost of service we provide. The more service we provide, the more it costs. Therefore the reduced course fees mentioned in the previous press release are only temporary, and we will make up for it by nickle-and-diming all these new meditators to death in future years. We are even considering charging for breathing, because as the Maharishi Effect continues to enliven the air, it will become more healthful *to* breathe. Please share this Gigormously Global Good News with your family, friends and associates. You will be doing them a Gigormously Global Great Service for which they will be forever Gigormously Grateful. Jai Guru Dev John Hagelin National Director ®Transcendental Meditation and TM are registered trademarks licensed to Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit educational organization. Now *that* was funny! I think If FFL was a pay site I would subscribe just to read you and Curtis. I don't know where it bubbles up from, but Jon Stewart has nothin' of youse guys.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: Oh, and I apologize to morons. And you know, we in the moron community do appreciate this, since we have been so maligned throughout history. We have turned down Richard's application many times due to his not meeting our criteria for admission. Technically he did achieve the imbecile level of some of our entrance tests, but upon farther review we felt that the designation idiot is probably closer to the mental level being expressed here, although it is possible that the tourettes interference is causing a slightly lower score. On behalf of the moron community, thank you for your sensitivity to these critical distinctions. The Jim question has been forwarded to the gender issues center for a more precise classification of what is going on there. I always have sensitivity in these matters. Payed my dues man. Worked my way from simpleton, nitwit, and airhead to a schlemiel, dunderheaded halfwit. I'm hoping with the nice references I've gotten from the old bat in Jersey that I can get my Village Idiot status officially confirmed. Gender issues like Flanegin ain't my thang. Homey don't swing that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: but if the prayers they said were in Latin it wouldn't have been religious. Right? guffaw How would you know if it was in Latin? guffaw dude wrote: uva uvam videndo varia fit Willy, you musta learnt that in your altar boy days. chuckle Not me, how would YOU know it was in Latin? Pretty obvious isn't it? Are you some kinda moron Willy? I got called out here for insulting bats so I won't mention being your being bat-shit insane. Oh, and I apologize to morons. Of course I know Latin, and Sanskrit, and Tibetan, and Urdu - I know almost all the common aryan and prakrit languages, and some Far-Eastern languages as well, (I can tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese) and many esoteric phonemes and quasi phonemes. Didn't you know that I've been studying with Mullquist for nearly nine years? So, Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat? Quis nostrud exercitation excepteur sint occaecat sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt. Cupidatat non proident, duis aute irure dolor ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, excepteur sint occaecat duis aute irure dolor. Ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Sunt in culpa ullamco laboris nisi cupidatat non proident. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt duis aute irure dolor lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Mollit anim id est laborum. Consectetur adipisicing elit, sunt in culpa ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Cupidatat non proident, eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt in reprehenderit in voluptate ullamco laboris nisi. Duis aute irure dolor cupidatat non proident, consectetur adipisicing elit. Excepteur sint occaecat mollit anim id est laborum. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Quis nostrud exercitation. Eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Consectetur adipisicing elit, velit esse cillum dolore sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?
Quit whining and form a Guild dude. Village Idiots get respect. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Here we go again. Those fucking morons think they're so special. Always lording it over us idiots and imbeciles. Elitist bastards! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: Oh, and I apologize to morons. And you know, we in the moron community do appreciate this, since we have been so maligned throughout history. We have turned down Richard's application many times due to his not meeting our criteria for admission. Technically he did achieve the imbecile level of some of our entrance tests, but upon farther review we felt that the designation idiot is probably closer to the mental level being expressed here, although it is possible that the tourettes interference is causing a slightly lower score. On behalf of the moron community, thank you for your sensitivity to these critical distinctions. The Jim question has been forwarded to the gender issues center for a more precise classification of what is going on there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: but if the prayers they said were in Latin it wouldn't have been religious. Right? guffaw How would you know if it was in Latin? guffaw dude wrote: uva uvam videndo varia fit Willy, you musta learnt that in your altar boy days. chuckle Not me, how would YOU know it was in Latin? Pretty obvious isn't it? Are you some kinda moron Willy? I got called out here for insulting bats so I won't mention being your being bat-shit insane. Oh, and I apologize to morons. Of course I know Latin, and Sanskrit, and Tibetan, and Urdu - I know almost all the common aryan and prakrit languages, and some Far-Eastern languages as well, (I can tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese) and many esoteric phonemes and quasi phonemes. Didn't you know that I've been studying with Mullquist for nearly nine years? So, Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat? Quis nostrud exercitation excepteur sint occaecat sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt. Cupidatat non proident, duis aute irure dolor ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, excepteur sint occaecat duis aute irure dolor. Ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Sunt in culpa ullamco laboris nisi cupidatat non proident. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt duis aute irure dolor lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Mollit anim id est laborum. Consectetur adipisicing elit, sunt in culpa ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Cupidatat non proident, eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt in reprehenderit in voluptate ullamco laboris nisi. Duis aute irure dolor cupidatat non proident, consectetur adipisicing elit. Excepteur sint occaecat mollit anim id est laborum. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Quis nostrud exercitation. Eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Consectetur adipisicing elit, velit esse cillum dolore sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi!
[FairfieldLife] Eureka Machine works out Laws of Nature!
Scientists have created a Eureka machine that can work out the laws of nature by observing the world around it a development that could dramatically speed up the discovery of new scientific truths. The machine took only hours to come up with the basic laws of motion, a task that occupied Sir Isaac Newton for years after he was inspired by an apple falling from a tree. Scientists at Cornell University in New York have already pointed the machine at baffling problems in biology and plan to use it to tackle questions in cosmology and social behaviour. The work marks a turning point in the way science is done. Eureka moments, which supposedly began in Archimedes' bath more than 2,000 years ago, might soon be happening not in the minds of geniuses, but through the warm hum of electronic circuitry. We've reached a point in science where there's a lot of data to deal with. It's not Newton looking at an apple, or Galileo looking at heavenly bodies any more, it's more complex than that, said Hod Lipson, the computer engineer who led the project. This takes the grunt out of science by sifting through data and looking for the laws that govern how something behaves. Details of the machine are described in the US journal Science. The study appears alongside a report from scientists at the universities of Aberystwyth and Cambridge describing the first discovery of new scientific knowledge by a laboratory robot. The robot, called Adam, devised and performed experiments to investigate the genetics of bakers' yeast. When scientists did their own experiments, they came to the same conclusions. Ross's team is already working on a second robot called Eve. Together, the papers raise the question of how the role of scientists will change over the coming decades. For now, scientists believe the new technology will work alongside them rather than relegate them to technicians who tap in data and perform maintenance tasks, but leave the real thinking to the machines. The Cornell machine uses a computer program that can search through huge amounts of data and look for underlying patterns. For example, a falling apple will abide by Newton's second law, which is often stated as F=ma, where F is the force acting on an object, m is its mass, and a is its acceleration. When fed information on the mass of the apple and its velocity as it falls, the machine would be able to work out the equation. Lipson tested the machine by giving it information from basic lab experiments, such as swinging pendulums and tiny cars that moved up and down tracks on a cushion of air. After crunching through the data, the machine pinged and displayed several laws of motion and conservation of momentum. The system runs its own checks to decide whether the laws it has found are likely to be interesting. In the pendulum test, for example, the tip of the pendulum is always the same distance from the pivot, but this does not shed any light on the underlying physics. After proving that the machine worked, Lipson's team set it to work on the complex problem of metabolism in biological cells. The computer produced some equations, which the scientists are still trying to make sense of. It's like going to an oracle and asking what's going on. You are given an equation, but you need to work out what it means before you can understand what's really going on, said Lipson. The team say they also plan to look at problems in cosmology and even social behaviour, which could reveal the underlying laws at play when people form social networks on the internet. The real test now is whether it can discover new laws of nature and I believe it will. There's no way forward in a lot of sciences without tools like this, Lipson said. http://tinyurl.com/dk5dsz http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/apr/02/eureka-laws-nature-artificial-intelligence-ai
[FairfieldLife] Wassup Surya?
Our star is behaving strangely... The sunspot cycle is behaving a little like the stock market. Just when you think it has hit bottom, it goes even lower. 2008 was a bear. There were no sunspots observed on 266 of the year's 366 days (73%). To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go all the way back to 1913, which had 311 spotless days: Prompted by these numbers, some observers suggested that the solar cycle had hit bottom in 2008. Maybe not. Sunspot counts for 2009 have dropped even lower. As of March 31st, there were no sunspots on 78 of the year's 90 days (87%). It adds up to one inescapable conclusion: We're experiencing a very deep solar minimum, says solar physicist Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center. This is the quietest sun we've seen in almost a century, agrees sunspot expert David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center. * A 50-year low in solar wind pressure * A 12-year low in solar irradiance * A 55-year low in solar radio emissions http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm?list1 http://tinyurl.com/c6n4nt
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wassup Surya?
Spotty Theories: 1. The spots are leaving the Sun like the dolphins are leaving Earth to join their space brothers. 2. The spots are storms, so the obvious answer is that the Maharishi Effect DOES affect the universe -- not just Fairfield. The Sun is quietening down and taking it's spots just like any other spot comes. It is easy? This is taking the spots as they come. It's a simple natural process. When a spot comes we do not try to keep the spot from changing, we take it as it comes. 3. The ME is sorta like acne cream, and so,our Sun is passing the teenage stage at last. 4. God is reading aloud a line from Lady Macbeth? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: Our star is behaving strangely... The sunspot cycle is behaving a little like the stock market. Just when you think it has hit bottom, it goes even lower. 2008 was a bear. There were no sunspots observed on 266 of the year's 366 days (73%). To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go all the way back to 1913, which had 311 spotless days: Prompted by these numbers, some observers suggested that the solar cycle had hit bottom in 2008. Maybe not. Sunspot counts for 2009 have dropped even lower. As of March 31st, there were no sunspots on 78 of the year's 90 days (87%). It adds up to one inescapable conclusion: We're experiencing a very deep solar minimum, says solar physicist Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center. This is the quietest sun we've seen in almost a century, agrees sunspot expert David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center. * A 50-year low in solar wind pressure * A 12-year low in solar irradiance * A 55-year low in solar radio emissions http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm?list1 http://tinyurl.com/c6n4nt
[FairfieldLife] Live web news conference, Friday 3 April 2009 - Paul McCartney,
Live web news conference, Friday 3 April 2009 - Paul McCartney, other stars to launch David Lynch Foundation global initiative for at-risk youth David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace Translate This Article 2 April 2009 WATCH LIVE! Friday, April 3, 12 noon to 1 pm EDT * Paul McCartney * Ringo Starr * David Lynch * Russell Simmons Coming together to teach one million at-risk youth to meditate NEW YORK PRESS CONFERENCE ON THE WEB To watch the live online news conference, click here. This online news conference will launch the David Lynch Foundation's global initiative to teach one million at-risk youth to meditate. Funds for the initiative will be raised during the 'Change Begins Within'' benefit concert at Radio City Music Hall on Saturday, April 4. Donovan, Paul Horn, Bettye LaVette, and Mike Love will attend to support the initiative as well. Experts to explain the benefits of meditation for young people John Hagelin, Ph.D. President of the David Lynch Foundation, Harvard-trained quantum physicist, educator, author, and leading researcher on the effects of meditation on health and brain development Carmen N'Namdi Chief education officer of a Detroit middle school where more than 300 students and teachers practice the TM technique twice daily as part of the school's wellness program Father Gabriel Mejia Catholic missionary who directs 47 shelters for homeless children in Colombia where over 3600 young people meditate twice daily Gary Kaplan, M.D., Ph.D. Associate professor of clinical neurology at New York University School of Medicine; recipient of the Albert H. Douglas Award from the Medical Society of the State of New York Norman E. Rosenthal, M.D. Senior researcher in psychiatry and psychobiology for 20 years at the National Institute of Mental Health; clinical professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University William Stixrud, Ph.D. Clinical neuropsychologist specializing in the evaluation and treatment of children, adolescents, and adults with learning, attention, and/or social/emotional difficulties; associate clinical professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University Medical Center Robert Schneider, M.D., F.A.C.C. Director of the National Institutes of Health-funded Institute of Natural Medicine and Prevention; recipient of $24 million from the NIH [National Institutes of Health, US] to investigate the effects of the Transcendental Meditation technique on cardiovascular disease The David Lynch Foundation will use BitGravity's BG Live™ highly-scalable flash-based video stream service. Presented by the David Lynch Foundation DavidLynchFoundation.org Find out more about the Transcendental Meditation program: TM.org © Copyright 2009 David Lynch Foundation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eureka Machine works out Laws of Nature!
Phihhh! This is only the beginning. The Singularity is coming! The Singularity is coming! Actually, I think the below is mostly hype. I would call the below brain an expert system, rather than the long sought programming that could pass the Turing Test. Expert systems have been around for decades - the legal and medical professions have some rather cool computer helpers these days, but we don't see any lawyers falling in love with the minds of these systems. How does the world end? Not with a bang but a whimper. How does the coming new world begin? In the case of an artificially intelligent singularity (there's other kinds) it won't start off with a bang but, instead, a whimper. Did you hear that whimper? The below article is exactly such a murmur. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: Scientists have created a Eureka machine that can work out the laws of nature by observing the world around it a development that could dramatically speed up the discovery of new scientific truths. The machine took only hours to come up with the basic laws of motion, a task that occupied Sir Isaac Newton for years after he was inspired by an apple falling from a tree. Scientists at Cornell University in New York have already pointed the machine at baffling problems in biology and plan to use it to tackle questions in cosmology and social behaviour. The work marks a turning point in the way science is done. Eureka moments, which supposedly began in Archimedes' bath more than 2,000 years ago, might soon be happening not in the minds of geniuses, but through the warm hum of electronic circuitry. We've reached a point in science where there's a lot of data to deal with. It's not Newton looking at an apple, or Galileo looking at heavenly bodies any more, it's more complex than that, said Hod Lipson, the computer engineer who led the project. This takes the grunt out of science by sifting through data and looking for the laws that govern how something behaves. Details of the machine are described in the US journal Science. The study appears alongside a report from scientists at the universities of Aberystwyth and Cambridge describing the first discovery of new scientific knowledge by a laboratory robot. The robot, called Adam, devised and performed experiments to investigate the genetics of bakers' yeast. When scientists did their own experiments, they came to the same conclusions. Ross's team is already working on a second robot called Eve. Together, the papers raise the question of how the role of scientists will change over the coming decades. For now, scientists believe the new technology will work alongside them rather than relegate them to technicians who tap in data and perform maintenance tasks, but leave the real thinking to the machines. The Cornell machine uses a computer program that can search through huge amounts of data and look for underlying patterns. For example, a falling apple will abide by Newton's second law, which is often stated as F=ma, where F is the force acting on an object, m is its mass, and a is its acceleration. When fed information on the mass of the apple and its velocity as it falls, the machine would be able to work out the equation. Lipson tested the machine by giving it information from basic lab experiments, such as swinging pendulums and tiny cars that moved up and down tracks on a cushion of air. After crunching through the data, the machine pinged and displayed several laws of motion and conservation of momentum. The system runs its own checks to decide whether the laws it has found are likely to be interesting. In the pendulum test, for example, the tip of the pendulum is always the same distance from the pivot, but this does not shed any light on the underlying physics. After proving that the machine worked, Lipson's team set it to work on the complex problem of metabolism in biological cells. The computer produced some equations, which the scientists are still trying to make sense of. It's like going to an oracle and asking what's going on. You are given an equation, but you need to work out what it means before you can understand what's really going on, said Lipson. The team say they also plan to look at problems in cosmology and even social behaviour, which could reveal the underlying laws at play when people form social networks on the internet. The real test now is whether it can discover new laws of nature and I believe it will. There's no way forward in a lot of sciences without tools like this, Lipson said. http://tinyurl.com/dk5dsz http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/apr/02/eureka-laws-nature-artificial-intelligence-ai
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eureka Machine works out Laws of Nature!
Adam and Eve huhhuh put that one in - Original Message - From: Hugo richardhughes...@hotmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eureka Machine works out Laws of Nature! Scientists have created a Eureka machine that can work out the laws of nature by observing the world around it - a development that could dramatically speed up the discovery of new scientific truths. The machine took only hours to come up with the basic laws of motion, a task that occupied Sir Isaac Newton for years after he was inspired by an apple falling from a tree. Scientists at Cornell University in New York have already pointed the machine at baffling problems in biology and plan to use it to tackle questions in cosmology and social behaviour. The work marks a turning point in the way science is done. Eureka moments, which supposedly began in Archimedes' bath more than 2,000 years ago, might soon be happening not in the minds of geniuses, but through the warm hum of electronic circuitry. We've reached a point in science where there's a lot of data to deal with. It's not Newton looking at an apple, or Galileo looking at heavenly bodies any more, it's more complex than that, said Hod Lipson, the computer engineer who led the project. This takes the grunt out of science by sifting through data and looking for the laws that govern how something behaves. Details of the machine are described in the US journal Science. The study appears alongside a report from scientists at the universities of Aberystwyth and Cambridge describing the first discovery of new scientific knowledge by a laboratory robot. The robot, called Adam, devised and performed experiments to investigate the genetics of bakers' yeast. When scientists did their own experiments, they came to the same conclusions. Ross's team is already working on a second robot called Eve. Together, the papers raise the question of how the role of scientists will change over the coming decades. For now, scientists believe the new technology will work alongside them rather than relegate them to technicians who tap in data and perform maintenance tasks, but leave the real thinking to the machines. The Cornell machine uses a computer program that can search through huge amounts of data and look for underlying patterns. For example, a falling apple will abide by Newton's second law, which is often stated as F=ma, where F is the force acting on an object, m is its mass, and a is its acceleration. When fed information on the mass of the apple and its velocity as it falls, the machine would be able to work out the equation. Lipson tested the machine by giving it information from basic lab experiments, such as swinging pendulums and tiny cars that moved up and down tracks on a cushion of air. After crunching through the data, the machine pinged and displayed several laws of motion and conservation of momentum. The system runs its own checks to decide whether the laws it has found are likely to be interesting. In the pendulum test, for example, the tip of the pendulum is always the same distance from the pivot, but this does not shed any light on the underlying physics. After proving that the machine worked, Lipson's team set it to work on the complex problem of metabolism in biological cells. The computer produced some equations, which the scientists are still trying to make sense of. It's like going to an oracle and asking what's going on. You are given an equation, but you need to work out what it means before you can understand what's really going on, said Lipson. The team say they also plan to look at problems in cosmology and even social behaviour, which could reveal the underlying laws at play when people form social networks on the internet. The real test now is whether it can discover new laws of nature and I believe it will. There's no way forward in a lot of sciences without tools like this, Lipson said. http://tinyurl.com/dk5dsz http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/apr/02/eureka-laws-nature-artificial-intelligence-ai To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Mark Morford smacks the Pope a good one
Pope, extra ribbed, Benedict says condoms make AIDS worse. God recoils in shame By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist What sort of wretched deity is this? What sort of tormented, clenched God must you believe in to cause you to openly promote ignorance and death for the sake of power and ideology and fear -- always, always a deep fear -- of love and sex and basic human connection? Let me try to be a little more specific: Is it not some form of strange self-torture, a kind of brutal spiritual immolation, to believe that God is this gloomy, obsessive micromanager, so petty and vindictive regarding what you do with your body that you/he will let people die for the sake of it? Do you have any sort of answer? Shall we ask the pope? The 81-year-old Benedict doesn't mingle with reporters individually but stands before them in the rear section of the plane flanked by aides, and responds drily to the questions. What a touching image. It's just one of the takeaway lines I took away from the recent story about Pope Benedict and his first, troubled trip to Africa, about how he generally handles -- or rather, mishandles -- questions about the grand scheme of worldly things like the soul, war, the role of God in everyday life and whether or not he might be some sort of dangerous underworld automaton sent from the Netherrealms of Ignorance to inflict guilt and desolation upon the world. It must be true. It's a question I'd want to pose, anyway, were I standing at the back of that papal aircraft staring down this dour and ideologically archaic man who seems very intent on not merely cementing slippery human divinity in the hard concrete of 1500, but also shoving it off a bridge to watch it sink to the bottom, just for good measure. Perhaps you think I'm out of line. Perhaps you think I'm being too hard on the ultraconservative, disengaged 81-year-old pontiff. Perhaps you did not read about how Benedict once again condemned condom usage in AIDS-ravaged Africa, apparently one of the last continents still deeply susceptible to the Vatican's insidious, pre-historic sexual ideology, and apparently the one major region that's singlehandedly keeping the church in the news these days because, dear God, are the rest of us not just about done with this sort of myopic sexual hysteria and dangerous misinformation? It would be nice to think so. But wait, there's more. The pope did not merely say, as the church has yawned for a thousand years, that any form of contraception is wrong. Would that he were so quaint and easily dismissed. Benedict actually took it a shocking, deadly step further and announced to sick, poor, dying Africans -- 22.5 million cases of HIV and counting fast -- that condoms could actually make AIDS worse, and that everyone should, instead, do what he and his sour band of unhappies have done for the past 2,000 very repressed years and simply not have sex, unless you are married and unsoiled and maybe not even then, because if there's one thing his very cruel God will not tolerate, it's humans doing things with their bodies in any way other than what some vindictive bishop scribbled into an insufferable rulebook about a thousand years ago. Still out of line? Are you thinking, come on, the pope might not be all that hip to the basic health issues of this lifetime, but so what? He's largely irrelevant to the lives of everyday Catholics. He's just a surreal figurehead, a sad spectacle parading through the streets of foreign cities in his gold-dipped shoes and a scepter made of tears. Who cares about his harmful lies, really? Perhaps you're right. Perhaps we shouldn't really give a damn for places where people are dying of diseases that could, at least in part, be easily prevented by simple sexual information and education, but which are instead being made worse by the appalling lies of someone who claims to have the Almighty on speed dial. What does it matter? Don't we have larger issues to worry about? Have you seen the housing market? Perhaps you wish to point out all the good the church does in the world, the various charities and outreach programs and shelters for the poor and so on. And you know what? You are absolutely right. There are some lovely people at play in the fields of the lord, even if that lord is a bit of a domineering, patriarchal megalomaniac who's never really satisfied. There is other good news: Some bishops already operate in open defiance of the Vatican's ignorance and publicly disagree with the pope's silly pronouncements. What's more, plenty of Catholic charities already freely distribute condoms to those living with AIDS (though of course, not to schools or to healthy sinners). Very well then. Perhaps we should look at it differently, and use Benedict as our grand reminder that the general Rule of Divinity still holds true: the more you claim to be some sort of inviolable authority on things sacred and holy, the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concert - speakers and how to register for the webcast
I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity-entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? To me, knowing the history of the TMO, it is a sore thumb flagging us to note that they were so lacking in confidence that they could get even 6,000 warm bodies to fill the space that they couldn't imagine renting a larger venue. If they thought they could get more response, we all know they would have rented the Orange Bowl (most satvic fruit) and glorified to the world that they had so many followers. And don't give me the argument that the TV showings of this event will be reaching a larger audiencecuz, if it were held in the Orange Bowl, there'd be an even larger audience tuning into it on TV. Nope, these are the latter day saints of the TMO gathering for one last hit of personal satisfaction that they done the world such a solid. And the fun part is: they're messing with a money milking machine that's a tar baby they know not of -- these rich folks think the TMO is getting the word out to the world by riding their celebrity coattails, but the truth is that the TMO is getting the word INTO the minds of these easy marks, and soon enough they'll be fully prepped to be shamed into a large donation for some TM cause (Girish is hungry.) Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamer...@... wrote: On Friday, April 3, 2009 there will be a press conference at the Radio City Music Hall in New York City regarding the program to teach one million students the Transcendental Meditation technique. David Lynch, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr will make statements as to why they are supporting this initiative. All of the other performing musicians will also make statements of support. http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/press-conference.html To register to watch the webcast of the press conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concert, please visit http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/new-york-press-conference-registration.html. Here some more interesting points: David Lynch recently edited a two-minute video showing the Beatles in India with Maharishi. When he showed it to Paul McCartney there were tears in his eyes. People in Paul's office said they haven't seen him this happy in 20 years. After the concert, Paul is going to auction a signed guitar, Ringo will auction signed drum skins, and Donovan a guitar that he said was George Harrison's favorite. During the concert Jerry Seinfeld is also going to speak for 3 minutes; he has been meditating since the age of 19. Billionaire Hedge Fund Manager Ray Dalio is paying for 130 people to attend the concert. He is encouraging all his guests to donate generously. He will speak at the end of the concert, indicating that TM has been instrumental to his success.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_re...@... wrote: I always have sensitivity in these matters. Payed my dues man. Worked my way from simpleton, nitwit, and airhead to a schlemiel, dunderheaded halfwit. Excellent list. Sound like my nicknames from every girlfriend I have ever had. I'm hoping with the nice references I've gotten from the old bat in Jersey that I can get my Village Idiot status officially confirmed. Gender issues like Flanegin ain't my thang. Homey don't swing that way. Thanks for the kind words about Turq's and my humor. You are definitely holding your own, contributing to the general tomfoolery! I say, if nobody is getting enlightened anyway, we might as well laugh! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: Oh, and I apologize to morons. And you know, we in the moron community do appreciate this, since we have been so maligned throughout history. We have turned down Richard's application many times due to his not meeting our criteria for admission. Technically he did achieve the imbecile level of some of our entrance tests, but upon farther review we felt that the designation idiot is probably closer to the mental level being expressed here, although it is possible that the tourettes interference is causing a slightly lower score. On behalf of the moron community, thank you for your sensitivity to these critical distinctions. The Jim question has been forwarded to the gender issues center for a more precise classification of what is going on there. I always have sensitivity in these matters. Payed my dues man. Worked my way from simpleton, nitwit, and airhead to a schlemiel, dunderheaded halfwit. I'm hoping with the nice references I've gotten from the old bat in Jersey that I can get my Village Idiot status officially confirmed. Gender issues like Flanegin ain't my thang. Homey don't swing that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: but if the prayers they said were in Latin it wouldn't have been religious. Right? guffaw How would you know if it was in Latin? guffaw dude wrote: uva uvam videndo varia fit Willy, you musta learnt that in your altar boy days. chuckle Not me, how would YOU know it was in Latin? Pretty obvious isn't it? Are you some kinda moron Willy? I got called out here for insulting bats so I won't mention being your being bat-shit insane. Oh, and I apologize to morons. Of course I know Latin, and Sanskrit, and Tibetan, and Urdu - I know almost all the common aryan and prakrit languages, and some Far-Eastern languages as well, (I can tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese) and many esoteric phonemes and quasi phonemes. Didn't you know that I've been studying with Mullquist for nearly nine years? So, Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat? Quis nostrud exercitation excepteur sint occaecat sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt. Cupidatat non proident, duis aute irure dolor ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, excepteur sint occaecat duis aute irure dolor. Ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Sunt in culpa ullamco laboris nisi cupidatat non proident. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt duis aute irure dolor lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Mollit anim id est laborum. Consectetur adipisicing elit, sunt in culpa ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Cupidatat non proident, eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt in reprehenderit in voluptate ullamco laboris nisi. Duis aute irure dolor cupidatat non proident, consectetur adipisicing elit. Excepteur sint occaecat mollit anim id est laborum. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Quis nostrud exercitation. Eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Consectetur adipisicing elit, velit esse cillum dolore sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concert - speakers and how to register for the webcast
I think it's adorable that they've been able to reach all of these children with TM. This simple form of meditation is a great beginning to the spiritual life and will change their outlook on life, some of them will go on to be great in some way.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamer...@... wrote: On Friday, April 3, 2009 there will be a press conference at the Radio City Music Hall in New York City regarding the program to teach one million students the Transcendental Meditation technique. David Lynch, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr will make statements as to why they are supporting this initiative. All of the other performing musicians will also make statements of support. http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/press-conference.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?
Satvadude, I agree with Curtis, and I was pleased to see you posting so many blurbs today. You got a really nice mellow wit and considerable writing skills. Pat, pat, patty pat on your good head. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: I always have sensitivity in these matters. Payed my dues man. Worked my way from simpleton, nitwit, and airhead to a schlemiel, dunderheaded halfwit. Excellent list. Sound like my nicknames from every girlfriend I have ever had. I'm hoping with the nice references I've gotten from the old bat in Jersey that I can get my Village Idiot status officially confirmed. Gender issues like Flanegin ain't my thang. Homey don't swing that way. Thanks for the kind words about Turq's and my humor. You are definitely holding your own, contributing to the general tomfoolery! I say, if nobody is getting enlightened anyway, we might as well laugh! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: Oh, and I apologize to morons. And you know, we in the moron community do appreciate this, since we have been so maligned throughout history. We have turned down Richard's application many times due to his not meeting our criteria for admission. Technically he did achieve the imbecile level of some of our entrance tests, but upon farther review we felt that the designation idiot is probably closer to the mental level being expressed here, although it is possible that the tourettes interference is causing a slightly lower score. On behalf of the moron community, thank you for your sensitivity to these critical distinctions. The Jim question has been forwarded to the gender issues center for a more precise classification of what is going on there. I always have sensitivity in these matters. Payed my dues man. Worked my way from simpleton, nitwit, and airhead to a schlemiel, dunderheaded halfwit. I'm hoping with the nice references I've gotten from the old bat in Jersey that I can get my Village Idiot status officially confirmed. Gender issues like Flanegin ain't my thang. Homey don't swing that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: but if the prayers they said were in Latin it wouldn't have been religious. Right? guffaw How would you know if it was in Latin? guffaw dude wrote: uva uvam videndo varia fit Willy, you musta learnt that in your altar boy days. chuckle Not me, how would YOU know it was in Latin? Pretty obvious isn't it? Are you some kinda moron Willy? I got called out here for insulting bats so I won't mention being your being bat-shit insane. Oh, and I apologize to morons. Of course I know Latin, and Sanskrit, and Tibetan, and Urdu - I know almost all the common aryan and prakrit languages, and some Far-Eastern languages as well, (I can tell the difference between Chinese and Japanese) and many esoteric phonemes and quasi phonemes. Didn't you know that I've been studying with Mullquist for nearly nine years? So, Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat? Quis nostrud exercitation excepteur sint occaecat sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt. Cupidatat non proident, duis aute irure dolor ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, excepteur sint occaecat duis aute irure dolor. Ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Sunt in culpa ullamco laboris nisi cupidatat non proident. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt duis aute irure dolor lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Mollit anim id est laborum. Consectetur adipisicing elit, sunt in culpa ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Cupidatat non proident, eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt in reprehenderit in voluptate ullamco laboris nisi. Duis aute irure dolor cupidatat non proident, consectetur adipisicing elit. Excepteur sint occaecat mollit anim id est laborum. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Quis nostrud exercitation. Eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Consectetur adipisicing elit, velit esse cillum dolore sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate qui officia
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concert - speakers and how to register for the webcast
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity-entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? To me, knowing the history of the TMO, it is a sore thumb flagging us to note that they were so lacking in confidence that they could get even 6,000 warm bodies to fill the space that they couldn't imagine renting a larger venue. If they thought they could get more response, we all know they would have rented the Orange Bowl (most satvic fruit) and glorified to the world that they had so many followers. And don't give me the argument that the TV showings of this event will be reaching a larger audiencecuz, if it were held in the Orange Bowl, there'd be an even larger audience tuning into it on TV. Nope, these are the latter day saints of the TMO gathering for one last hit of personal satisfaction that they done the world such a solid. And the fun part is: they're messing with a money milking machine that's a tar baby they know not of -- these rich folks think the TMO is getting the word out to the world by riding their celebrity coattails, but the truth is that the TMO is getting the word INTO the minds of these easy marks, and soon enough they'll be fully prepped to be shamed into a large donation for some TM cause (Girish is hungry.) Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamerlin@ wrote: On Friday, April 3, 2009 there will be a press conference at the Radio City Music Hall in New York City regarding the program to teach one million students the Transcendental Meditation technique. David Lynch, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr will make statements as to why they are supporting this initiative. All of the other performing musicians will also make statements of support. http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/press-conference.html To register to watch the webcast of the press conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concert, please visit http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/new-york-press-conference-registration.html. Here some more interesting points: David Lynch recently edited a two-minute video showing the Beatles in India with Maharishi. When he showed it to Paul McCartney there were tears in his eyes. People in Paul's office said they haven't seen him this happy in 20 years. After the concert, Paul is going to auction a signed guitar, Ringo will auction signed drum skins, and Donovan a guitar that he said was George Harrison's favorite. During the concert Jerry Seinfeld is also going to speak for 3 minutes; he has been meditating since the age of 19. Billionaire Hedge Fund Manager Ray Dalio is paying for 130 people to attend the concert. He is encouraging all his guests to donate generously. He will speak at the end of the concert, indicating that TM has been instrumental to his success.
[FairfieldLife] Questions and Answers
What to do? Swami Rama is dead and Vaj has gone into silence contemplating a body part. Since I can't get them to answer my questions, I'll answer myself. Anyone can chime in. Inquiring minds want to know. Q. If you had a chance to teach millions of people meditation or a handful of monks contemplation, would you prefer teaching many or a few? A. Many Q. If you prefer teaching only a few monks contemplation, what is the relative benefit to creating a peaceful world compared to teaching millions meditation? A. Everyone wants a peaceful world but it seems to be in our DNA to fight to establish dominance for me and mine. Although torn between altruism and self-interest, TM makes it possible to resolve our conflicts by finding common ground in the consciousness we share as humans. Since nothing else has ever worked, if TM can create a peaceful world, and I believe that it can, why not give peace a chance? A few monks contemplating can help create world peace but millions practicing TM will carry the day. If there's a better, easier way to create world peace, I'd like to hear about it. Q. Do only monks practice contemplation because controlling the mind is a difficult task that most people would bail on? A. Of course, most people would prefer TM because it is easy to do. Q. Do you think contemplation is superior to meditation? Why? A. One isn't inferior or superior than the other, just different. TM is easy and contemplation is difficult. Q. If one practices meditation and experiences samadhi, after some time of witnessing the duality of self and non-self, there is a natural and spontaneous desire to unify self and non-self. Love naturally draws the meditator toward unity, effortlessly. Seems to me Thou are That would be the result in either meditation (easy for many) or contemplation (difficult for many). What say you? A. Maharishi has said that the concept of a path is for the ignorant: The range for creative intelligence is from here to here. In other words, there is no path and nowhere to go. Thou art [already] That. Tat Tvam Asi. TM is an effortless path to Thou art That.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and Answers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: What to do? Swami Rama is dead and Vaj has gone into silence contemplating a body part. Since I can't get them to answer my questions, I'll answer myself. Anyone can chime in. Inquiring minds want to know. I'm in , nice discussion piece. Q. If you had a chance to teach millions of people meditation or a handful of monks contemplation, would you prefer teaching many or a few? A. Many 1972 just called and wants it's World Plan back. Remember what happened when we all pitched in to try this? Recap: TM became a fad, endorsed by a few celebrities (oddly skewed by macho guys like Clint and Bert who needed to soften their off screen image) a bunch of people took TM (40,000 a month at the peak) and then within a few years they all stopped (with the exception of 3 people who went to MIU). So it turns out that you can teach meditation to hundreds of thousands of people but when Jane Fonda came out with her exercise tape fad, they all drop TM for the next new thing that will make their lives great. Q. If you prefer teaching only a few monks contemplation, what is the relative benefit to creating a peaceful world compared to teaching millions meditation? A. Everyone wants a peaceful world but it seems to be in our DNA to fight to establish dominance for me and mine. Although torn between altruism and self-interest, TM makes it possible to resolve our conflicts by finding common ground in the consciousness we share as humans. I get as giddy as the next aging hippie from the Kumbaya vibe (wait that campfire smoke might be weed) but let's face facts. This doesn't even happen here on FFL between long term meditators and non meditators. I'm not one to say that meditators are worse at anything because they meditate (well cooking a kickass osso buco might be an Achilles' heel) but come one! You guys are normal intelligent funny people with no more ability to find common ground than anyone else I interact with. You even have your resident misanthropes. TM has done nothing to promote anyone's ability to love others more. Even when you all get together at MUM you break into cliques like everyone else and are capable of the buttholish behavior that is part of being human. Since nothing else has ever worked, if TM can create a peaceful world, and I believe that it can, why not give peace a chance? Because it has been tried and didn't work even in all TM communities. A few monks contemplating can help create world peace but millions practicing TM will carry the day. If there's a better, easier way to create world peace, I'd like to hear about it. Maharishi had one. Get thousands of Indians to send their kid to pundit school (cuts down on the grocery bill) and teach them the triumphalist religious songs of the conquering Aryans crowing about driving the darker skinned Drauvidians to the South of India. Maharishi gave up on the World Plan, didn't you get the memo? Now world peace comes from chanting by monks according to the movement. Q. Do only monks practice contemplation because controlling the mind is a difficult task that most people would bail on? A. Of course, most people would prefer TM because it is easy to do. I think you are making some assumptions about what monks do but I didn't read all your exchanges with Vaj, maybe he said this. But the criteria of easy to do is a line from direct mail marketing and has very little to do with what I value in life. Everything great in my life takes effort. Long term relationships take work, any art takes constant effort. The easiest thing is to go through a drive-thru at Mcshit burger. Cooking a meal with the international ingredients from the home of some far off country takes time and effort, but the results are soo worth it. Kayaking down the Potomac is full of pain in the ass effort just to get to the river. But have you seen the sun set on that big river bathing the water around you with orange flames? Oh yeah, and don't forget about the hundreds of thousands of people who bailed on the supposedly easy TM. That myth has been busted. Q. Do you think contemplation is superior to meditation? Why? A. One isn't inferior or superior than the other, just different. TM is easy and contemplation is difficult. Whao, the flying monkeys of MERU are on their way. This is total heresy and I seriously doubt you believe it. In any case it is one of the only techniques mentioned by name in the prep where it is claimed to keep the mind of the surface. Q. If one practices meditation and experiences samadhi, after some time of witnessing the duality of self and non-self, there is a natural and spontaneous desire to unify self and non-self. Love naturally draws the meditator toward unity, effortlessly. I like the poetic rephrase. I doubt this is what is going on in any way differently than in other
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity-entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? Er at $500-$1000 per ticket, not counting the $100 grand packages for donors at the afterparty. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity-entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? Sir Paul has yet to wear a cream-colored suit. McCartney wears dark-colored suits. At today's press conference, Hagelin sported a SIMS-like Navy-colored suit, as did nearly everyone who strutted onto the stage. To me, knowing the history of the TMO, it is a sore thumb flagging us to note that they were so lacking in confidence that they could get even 6,000 warm bodies to fill the space that they couldn't imagine renting a larger venue. If they thought they could get more response, we all know they would have rented the Orange Bowl (most satvic fruit) and glorified to the world that they had so many followers. And don't give me the argument that the TV showings of this event will be reaching a larger audiencecuz, if it were held in the Orange Bowl, there'd be an even larger audience tuning into it on TV. Nope, these are the latter day saints of the TMO gathering for one last hit of personal satisfaction that they done the world such a solid. And the fun part is: they're messing with a money milking machine that's a tar baby they know not of -- these rich folks think the TMO is getting the word out to the world by riding their celebrity coattails, but the truth is that the TMO is getting the word INTO the minds of these easy marks, and soon enough they'll be fully prepped to be shamed into a large donation for some TM cause (Girish is hungry.) Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamerlin@ wrote: On Friday, April 3, 2009 there will be a press conference at the Radio City Music Hall in New York City regarding the program to teach one million students the Transcendental Meditation technique. David Lynch, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr will make statements as to why they are supporting this initiative. All of the other performing musicians will also make statements of support. http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/press-conference.html To register to watch the webcast of the press conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concert, please visit http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/new-york-press-conference-registration.html. Here some more interesting points: David Lynch recently edited a two-minute video showing the Beatles in India with Maharishi. When he showed it to Paul McCartney there were tears in his eyes. People in Paul's office said they haven't seen him this happy in 20 years. After the concert, Paul is going to auction a signed guitar, Ringo will auction signed drum skins, and Donovan a guitar that he said was George Harrison's favorite. During the concert Jerry Seinfeld is also going to speak for 3 minutes; he has been meditating since the age of 19. Billionaire Hedge Fund Manager Ray Dalio is paying for 130 people to attend the concert. He is encouraging all his guests to donate generously. He will speak at the end of the concert, indicating that TM has been instrumental to his success.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity-entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? Er at $500-$1000 per ticket, not counting the $100 grand packages for donors at the afterparty. I don't know what it is like in your city but when Paul comes to DC alone, people pay these prices and higher for the good seats without the charity angle. And two Beatles together? I think the public smells something. Ticket prices for him at the Hard Rock in Vegas this month: http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/buy/paulmccartney_tickets.htm?pid=1013066 http://tinyurl.com/d3yxe2 Don't forget that we are saying that out of the millions initiated,this is how many still believe in TM's value in schools this much. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity-entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? Er at $500-$1000 per ticket, not counting the $100 grand packages for donors at the afterparty. I don't know what it is like in your city but when Paul comes to DC alone, people pay these prices and higher for the good seats without the charity angle. And two Beatles together? I think the public smells something. Ticket prices for him at the Hard Rock in Vegas this month: http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/buy/paulmccartney_tickets.htm?pid=1013066 http://tinyurl.com/d3yxe2 Don't forget that we are saying that out of the millions initiated,this is how many still believe in TM's value in schools this much. Eh, the goal is to raise $600 million.. Shrugs. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and Answers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: What to do? Swami Rama is dead and Vaj has gone into silence contemplating a body part. Since I can't get them to answer my questions, I'll answer myself. Anyone can chime in. Inquiring minds want to know. I'm in , nice discussion piece. I'll bite. Q. If you had a chance to teach millions of people meditation or a handful of monks contemplation, would you prefer teaching many or a few? A. Many 1972 just called and wants it's World Plan back. Remember what happened when we all pitched in to try this? Recap: TM became a fad, endorsed by a few celebrities (oddly skewed by macho guys like Clint and Bert who needed to soften their off screen image) a bunch of people took TM (40,000 a month at the peak) and then within a few years they all stopped (with the exception of 3 people who went to MIU). So it turns out that you can teach meditation to hundreds of thousands of people but when Jane Fonda came out with her exercise tape fad, they all drop TM for the next new thing that will make their lives great. Count me in for a few. A very select few. For several reasons. First, were I foolish enough to teach again, I would want to make sure that the even more foolish people who wanted to learn something from me would do so. That means -- for me -- limiting the number of students. I've done both the mass thing and the small thing, and greatly pre- fer the small thing. Second, wanting to teach *everyone* to medi- tate smacks of hubris to me. It's way up there with the Boddhisattva Vow in terms of Lack Of Humility. Third, I would be teaching things other than basic meditation, and most people wouldn't be interested in the more occult practices. Q. If you prefer teaching only a few monks contemplation, what is the relative benefit to creating a peaceful world compared to teaching millions meditation? A. Everyone wants a peaceful world but it seems to be in our DNA to fight to establish dominance for me and mine. Although torn between altruism and self-interest, TM makes it possible to resolve our conflicts by finding common ground in the consciousness we share as humans. I get as giddy as the next aging hippie from the Kumbaya vibe (wait that campfire smoke might be weed) but let's face facts. This doesn't even happen here on FFL between long term meditators and non meditators. In fact, many of the TMers -- including *yourself*, Raunchy -- actively wish ill to those they disagree with. I see no evidence -- here, in the larger TM community, or in the world -- that TM benefits any- one other than the person who practices it, and not even that consistently. The Maharishi Effect is a joke. So, in my opinion, is the idea that becoming enlightened yourself is going to radiate goodness cooties to the world and benefit others. But if people want to pursue enlight- enment themselves, and they hurt no one else in the process and occasionally even do some good for others in the form of selfless service, I'm all for it, on a one on one basis. I do not believe in Magical Woo Woo Rays that affect the world just because you're so Special. Q. Do only monks practice contemplation because controlling the mind is a difficult task that most people would bail on? A. Of course, most people would prefer TM because it is easy to do. I think you are making some assumptions about what monks do but I didn't read all your exchanges with Vaj, maybe he said this. He didn't. Anyone can practice contemplation, and as easily as they think the TM mantra. Raunchydog has just never tried any other form of meditation, so she's assuming. Incorrectly. But the criteria of easy to do is a line from direct mail marketing and has very little to do with what I value in life. Everything great in my life takes effort. Exactly. Do less and accomplish more turned out in the end to mean, Do as little as possible and after 40 years, accomplish as little as possible. IMO, of course. You can disagree if you look around you and see a world at peace. Q. Do you think contemplation is superior to meditation? Why? A. One isn't inferior or superior than the other, just different. TM is easy and contemplation is difficult. Whao, the flying monkeys of MERU are on their way. This is total heresy and I seriously doubt you believe it. What she says is also NOT TRUE, but that's never stopped Raunchy in the past. :-) In any case it is one of the only techniques mentioned by name in the prep where it is claimed to keep the mind of the surface. And, as anyone who has practiced *the form of con- templation Vaj is talking about*, that's not even true. The only thing that Raunchy said that was true is that the forms are different. Q. If one practices meditation and experiences
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concert - speakers and how to register for the webcast
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamer...@... wrote: Here some more interesting points: David Lynch recently edited a two-minute video showing the Beatles in India with Maharishi. When he showed it to Paul McCartney there were tears in his eyes. People in Paul's office said they haven't seen him this happy in 20 years. After the concert, Paul is going to auction a signed guitar, Ringo will auction signed drum skins, and Donovan a guitar that he said was George Harrison's favorite. During the concert Jerry Seinfeld is also going to speak for 3 minutes; he has been meditating since the age of 19. Very nice, thanks for posting this !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity-entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? Er at $500-$1000 per ticket, not counting the $100 grand packages for donors at the afterparty. I don't know what it is like in your city but when Paul comes to DC alone, people pay these prices and higher for the good seats without the charity angle. And two Beatles together? I think the public smells something. Ticket prices for him at the Hard Rock in Vegas this month: http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/buy/paulmccartney_tickets.htm?pid=1013066 http://tinyurl.com/d3yxe2 Don't forget that we are saying that out of the millions initiated,this is how many still believe in TM's value in schools this much. Eh, the goal is to raise $600 million.. Shrugs. L. The goal is to pretend the TMO is SIMS, which assured that TM 20 X 2 is all you do for full effectiveness of the technique. Until a Western-style SIMS organization arises, one independent of confiscatory constraints of the Indian TMO, success will be very limited.
[FairfieldLife] Suicide Gunman in NY!
Now it's at least 13! Apr 3, 2009 6 shot, hostages taken in N.Y. As many as 41 people have been taken hostage at an immigration center in Binghamton, N.Y.. » Report http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
[FairfieldLife] New Conference
Can be viewd here : http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:03 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity- entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? Er at $500-$1000 per ticket, not counting the $100 grand packages for donors at the afterparty. Um, that number is totally bogus, spare. I heard they started at $75...don't know what the most expensive were, but it's seriously unlikely they came anywhere near that. They can't even get anywhere near that much scalping them. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google reveals is formerly secret data servers
Note the date on the article 12 volt batteries on each server instead of a big UPS. Server rooms or Sun Microsystems style shipping containers. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10209580-92.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... Um, that number is totally bogus, spare. I heard they started at $75...don't know what the most expensive were, but it's seriously unlikely they came anywhere near that. They can't even get anywhere near that much scalping them. Sal And Sal's anger, frustration and envy is becoming more subtle by the hour...
[FairfieldLife] A Beautiful Quote from Maharishi
I haven't been on FFL too mcuh so this may have already been posted. My apologies if so. Bill Vosteen A Beautiful Quote from Maharishi (Related by Raja Steven Rubin as part of the 12th January 2009 celebration) Maharishi repeating the question: It's a beautiful question and very sweet, the question is and still is: Guru Dev must have been fully enlightened. Now after leaving the body nothing remains in the Relative, just Absolute. Then how do we invoke and to whom? And if there is nobody to be invoked, then what is the use? Then Maharishi said: Some such similar question I asked Guru Dev once, what happened was, naturally, people came to the Ashram from all over India to pay their respects to Guru Dev, once or twice a year according to their own convenience. And when they would come, they would narrate all sorts of stories: the child was sick or they had a lawsuit, all sorts of difficulties, and then, thinking of Guru Dev, that thing disappeared. And hearing all these things for a long time, one night I asked Guru Dev: What is this? These people don't even write to Guru Dev. Guru Dev doesn't even know they are in difficulty on the surface of life, and then how do they report that they had a vision or they had some thought of Guru Dev and from that time everything started to be smooth? If they wrote a letter and the difficulty came to the notice of Guru Dev, and then they got out of their difficulties, I could understand it. But they didn't write letters, they just have the devotion to Guru Dev, and they have some thought of Guru Dev. And Guru Dev's reply was: It's the department of the Almighty, and He does it! And Maharishi went on to say: It took me about 2 years to understand, because I quite remember the time, what was meant by It's the department of the Almighty. Maharishi said: How I understand it was this: We Have the picture of Guru Dev, as when we do puja, and that form, that photo, that picture, is the physical expression of the form, which had a mind which was fully enlightened and omnipresent. So once we see the form our eyes associate with the form very naturally because the physical and mental run parallel. And once the form is in our vision, in our awareness, then naturally our mind gets in tune with the mind, which occupied that form once upon a time. The form was occupied by a mind, that mind is an all-time reality, eternal, the barriers of time are no barrier for it, continuum. The body is no more but the form is there, and once we tune our eyes, our vision, our perception, cognition to that, because that was held up by the mind that was enlightened, naturally our mind gets in tune. And because that mind was and is and will forever be omnipresent, immediately our mind gets in tune with the omnipresent, and right away the help comes from where we are. The help comes from Absolute Being which is the nature of our own mind, but that image, that picture, becomes a positive and concrete medium to have that mechanics performed for our mind. So help comes from our own being, but because it comes through that form, naturally our Devotion is to That. And that is the department of the Almighty, which does it: It's not the individual, it's the department. And it's the only way, it's not two ways, it's one way. The help is not given, it's received, it's received by our ability to attune with That, and that ability develops with Devotion, Surrender and Service these three things. Automatically one is elevated to that level and help doesn't come from outside, it comes right where we are, from our own Being. But those unaware of one's own Being have these mechanics to help them. And Maharishi went on to say: This is true for all the saints in all the times throughout the world. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
thanks for posting this-- the actual news conference begins about 20 mins. in. it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Can be viewd here : http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Beautiful Quote from Maharishi
Nice quote -- wish I'd seen it years earlier. So, now we know. Guru Dev is dead. I saw someone get up to the mike in Fuiggi and ask in various ways about Guru Dev's existence, and Maharishi was anything but as forthcoming as he is in the quote below. In fact, get this, they stopped the questioning and told the questioner to leave the mike, and the energy in the tone of voice said it all: stop bugging Maharishi. It was, I believe, Max Fleisher? Fisher?...the guy who helped write the Holy Tradition booklet? So much for Maharishi's integrity to always give the fullest expression of truth. This was in 1972, so back then, it seems, they didn't want to disabuse all us hippies about the true nature of enlightenment -- that is: everything you identify with now goes poof. Ain't no afterlife you fools. Store not your treasures where rust and moth doeth corrupt. Put your identificationing aside -- it's a child's plaything only. The only thing to grasp, cannot be grasped, so stop trying, and voila, that'll gitterdone. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wvosteen monr...@... wrote: I haven't been on FFL too mcuh so this may have already been posted. My apologies if so. Bill Vosteen A Beautiful Quote from Maharishi (Related by Raja Steven Rubin as part of the 12th January 2009 celebration) Maharishi repeating the question: It's a beautiful question and very sweet, the question is and still is: Guru Dev must have been fully enlightened. Now after leaving the body nothing remains in the Relative, just Absolute. Then how do we invoke and to whom? And if there is nobody to be invoked, then what is the use? Then Maharishi said: Some such similar question I asked Guru Dev once, what happened was, naturally, people came to the Ashram from all over India to pay their respects to Guru Dev, once or twice a year according to their own convenience. And when they would come, they would narrate all sorts of stories: the child was sick or they had a lawsuit, all sorts of difficulties, and then, thinking of Guru Dev, that thing disappeared. And hearing all these things for a long time, one night I asked Guru Dev: What is this? These people don't even write to Guru Dev. Guru Dev doesn't even know they are in difficulty on the surface of life, and then how do they report that they had a vision or they had some thought of Guru Dev and from that time everything started to be smooth? If they wrote a letter and the difficulty came to the notice of Guru Dev, and then they got out of their difficulties, I could understand it. But they didn't write letters, they just have the devotion to Guru Dev, and they have some thought of Guru Dev. And Guru Dev's reply was: It's the department of the Almighty, and He does it! And Maharishi went on to say: It took me about 2 years to understand, because I quite remember the time, what was meant by It's the department of the Almighty. Maharishi said: How I understand it was this: We Have the picture of Guru Dev, as when we do puja, and that form, that photo, that picture, is the physical expression of the form, which had a mind which was fully enlightened and omnipresent. So once we see the form our eyes associate with the form very naturally because the physical and mental run parallel. And once the form is in our vision, in our awareness, then naturally our mind gets in tune with the mind, which occupied that form once upon a time. The form was occupied by a mind, that mind is an all-time reality, eternal, the barriers of time are no barrier for it, continuum. The body is no more but the form is there, and once we tune our eyes, our vision, our perception, cognition to that, because that was held up by the mind that was enlightened, naturally our mind gets in tune. And because that mind was and is and will forever be omnipresent, immediately our mind gets in tune with the omnipresent, and right away the help comes from where we are. The help comes from Absolute Being which is the nature of our own mind, but that image, that picture, becomes a positive and concrete medium to have that mechanics performed for our mind. So help comes from our own being, but because it comes through that form, naturally our Devotion is to That. And that is the department of the Almighty, which does it: It's not the individual, it's the department. And it's the only way, it's not two ways, it's one way. The help is not given, it's received, it's received by our ability to attune with That, and that ability develops with Devotion, Surrender and Service these three things. Automatically one is elevated to that level and help doesn't come from outside, it comes right where we are, from our own Being. But those unaware of one's own Being have these mechanics to help them. And Maharishi went on to say: This is true for all the saints in all the times throughout the
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
enlightened_dawn11 wrote: thanks for posting this-- [snip] it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... ED, Bull fucking shit. Anyone in their position, set-up as they, groomed as they, know what to say and when to say it when they have to pony up for a few minutes on a mike. It's all role-playing performances. Let's see Lynch tell why TM didn't dent his smoking habit or why Paul couldn't even please a one-legged wife, or why John's bad karma wasn't avoided, or why George was stabbed and died early, or why Ringo, well, why he still looks like Ringo. All TM teachers have proudly proclaimed in their lectures the existence of things they simply have not experienced, and these rich celebrities are as sheltered from the real world as can be -- would even one of these folks be touting TM if they knew the money side of it? Think about it, these folks are coming out to stand up for TM just like Tom Cruise for Scientology -- they're taking their professional images and putting them at great risk should the instructions ever begin in public schools and THEN and ONLY THEN do they see what they've associated themselves with. Once the lawsuits start flying, you won't find these folks clamoring to be exponents of consciousness or apologists for TM -- they'll say, TM? Oh, I tried that once, I think. You know, just exactly what you'd do if your asking price for your services were suddenly about to go from $10,000,000 a picture down to $5,000,000. I feel sorry for the celebrities -- they're going to be ripped off and then embarrassed in the public eye, and they're just not trained to handle the questions about the underbelly of the TMO -- they'll be fodder for the tabloids if they try to come off as wise and guru-ish. Headline: David Lynch loses millions to cult scam Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: enlightened_dawn11 wrote: thanks for posting this-- [snip] it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... ED, Bull fucking shit. Edg, why did you discard your medication ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
i'll let Vaj and Barry and Curtis and Sal reply to you. they are far more experienced and eloquent with regard to the pitfalls and dangers and drawbacks and shortcomings and downfalls and lies and half-truths related to TM, the Maharishi, and the TMO than i am. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: enlightened_dawn11 wrote: thanks for posting this-- [snip] it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... ED, Bull fucking shit. Anyone in their position, set-up as they, groomed as they, know what to say and when to say it when they have to pony up for a few minutes on a mike. It's all role-playing performances. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: thanks for posting this-- the actual news conference begins about 20 mins. in. it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Can be viewd here : http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ Ringo has said some pretty interesting things about his encounters with Maharishi. Some fellows thought he was just the hairdresser amongst the Beatles, and the first to check out of Rishikesh. In reality he understood the knowledge quicker and more profoundly than most others. Check out the Official Biography of the Beatles to see what he says about the experience of meeting Maharishi and enjoying the effects; his firm understanding of the dynamics of TM and of the peace that TM brought him is obvious to all. His speech today was indeed very personal and very sweet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
Duveyoung wrote: enlightened_dawn11 wrote: thanks for posting this-- [snip] it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... ED, Bull fucking shit. Anyone in their position, set-up as they, groomed as they, know what to say and when to say it when they have to pony up for a few minutes on a mike. It's all role-playing performances. Let's see Lynch tell why TM didn't dent his smoking habit or why Paul couldn't even please a one-legged wife, or why John's bad karma wasn't avoided, or why George was stabbed and died early, or why Ringo, well, why he still looks like Ringo. All TM teachers have proudly proclaimed in their lectures the existence of things they simply have not experienced, and these rich celebrities are as sheltered from the real world as can be -- would even one of these folks be touting TM if they knew the money side of it? Think about it, these folks are coming out to stand up for TM just like Tom Cruise for Scientology -- they're taking their professional images and putting them at great risk should the instructions ever begin in public schools and THEN and ONLY THEN do they see what they've associated themselves with. Once the lawsuits start flying, you won't find these folks clamoring to be exponents of consciousness or apologists for TM -- they'll say, TM? Oh, I tried that once, I think. You know, just exactly what you'd do if your asking price for your services were suddenly about to go from $10,000,000 a picture down to $5,000,000. I feel sorry for the celebrities -- they're going to be ripped off and then embarrassed in the public eye, and they're just not trained to handle the questions about the underbelly of the TMO -- they'll be fodder for the tabloids if they try to come off as wise and guru-ish. Headline: David Lynch loses millions to cult scam Edg Good points, Edg. If Lynch wants to promote meditation he should learn more about it OUTSIDE of the TMO. He's probably be surprised about what he learns.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?
It just dawned on me that Richard may be an operative of the Opus Dei to spy on this forum's activities! Notice the Latin he's using. So, Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat? Quis nostrud exercitation excepteur sint occaecat sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt. Cupidatat non proident, duis aute irure dolor ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, excepteur sint occaecat duis aute irure dolor. Ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Sunt in culpa ullamco laboris nisi cupidatat non proident. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt duis aute irure dolor lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Mollit anim id est laborum. Consectetur adipisicing elit, sunt in culpa ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Cupidatat non proident, eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt in reprehenderit in voluptate ullamco laboris nisi. Duis aute irure dolor cupidatat non proident, consectetur adipisicing elit. Excepteur sint occaecat mollit anim id est laborum. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Quis nostrud exercitation. Eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Consectetur adipisicing elit, velit esse cillum dolore sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:03 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I wonder: if all these celebrities came together to do a charity- entertainment for, say, raising public awareness of 3rd world travail, don't we all know that they could fill a stadium with folks who paid serious bucks for the tickets? Lots of baby boomers out there. Instead, all we get is 6,000 seats filled? Ringo and Paul play together for charity and this is the number? WTF? Er at $500-$1000 per ticket, not counting the $100 grand packages for donors at the afterparty. Um, that number is totally bogus, spare. I heard they started at $75...don't know what the most expensive were, but it's seriously unlikely they came anywhere near that. They can't even get anywhere near that much scalping them. Sal Guffaw. Rumors were that they sold out in just a few minutes and ended up being scalped on ebay for close to $10 grand each. You can pretned that 6000 seats in a charity concert sell for $75 each in NTC but I think you're slightly out of your mind. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Duveyoung wrote: enlightened_dawn11 wrote: thanks for posting this-- [snip] it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... ED, Bull fucking shit. Anyone in their position, set-up as they, groomed as they, know what to say and when to say it when they have to pony up for a few minutes on a mike. It's all role-playing performances. Let's see Lynch tell why TM didn't dent his smoking habit or why Paul couldn't even please a one-legged wife, or why John's bad karma wasn't avoided, or why George was stabbed and died early, or why Ringo, well, why he still looks like Ringo. All TM teachers have proudly proclaimed in their lectures the existence of things they simply have not experienced, and these rich celebrities are as sheltered from the real world as can be -- would even one of these folks be touting TM if they knew the money side of it? Think about it, these folks are coming out to stand up for TM just like Tom Cruise for Scientology -- they're taking their professional images and putting them at great risk should the instructions ever begin in public schools and THEN and ONLY THEN do they see what they've associated themselves with. Once the lawsuits start flying, you won't find these folks clamoring to be exponents of consciousness or apologists for TM -- they'll say, TM? Oh, I tried that once, I think. You know, just exactly what you'd do if your asking price for your services were suddenly about to go from $10,000,000 a picture down to $5,000,000. I feel sorry for the celebrities -- they're going to be ripped off and then embarrassed in the public eye, and they're just not trained to handle the questions about the underbelly of the TMO -- they'll be fodder for the tabloids if they try to come off as wise and guru-ish. Headline: David Lynch loses millions to cult scam Edg Good points, Edg. If Lynch wants to promote meditation he should learn more about it OUTSIDE of the TMO. He's probably be surprised about what he learns. Like TM is the same as Benson's Relaxation Response or something? L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lorem ipsum
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Not me, how would YOU know it was in Latin? satvadude108 wrote: Pretty obvious isn't it? Yeah, I'm the moron, but you didn't recognize the Lorem ipsum. LOL! I believe I did point out that I was a defrocked altar boy. Sister Mary Romunda was never happy with my progress in Latin class. You made good progress this week Willy, admitting you are both a troll and a moron. Next you can learn to count to 50. You still aren't much of a Texan if you don't recognize uva uvam vivendo varia fit. So, Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat? Quis nostrud exercitation excepteur sint occaecat sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt. Cupidatat non proident, duis aute irure dolor ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, excepteur sint occaecat duis aute irure dolor. Ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Sunt in culpa ullamco laboris nisi cupidatat non proident. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt duis aute irure dolor lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Mollit anim id est laborum. Consectetur adipisicing elit, sunt in culpa ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Cupidatat non proident, eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt in reprehenderit in voluptate ullamco laboris nisi. Duis aute irure dolor cupidatat non proident, consectetur adipisicing elit. Excepteur sint occaecat mollit anim id est laborum. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Quis nostrud exercitation. Eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Consectetur adipisicing elit, velit esse cillum dolore sunt in culpa. In reprehenderit in voluptate qui officia deserunt ullamco laboris nisi!
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
thanks for the link that was great! David Lynch has the right approach, let's hope the Raja's don't torpedo the whole effort with their dos...I mean the last thing we need is a Renaissance pleasure fare for TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: thanks for posting this-- the actual news conference begins about 20 mins. in. it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Can be viewd here : http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ Ringo has said some pretty interesting things about his encounters with Maharishi. Some fellows thought he was just the hairdresser amongst the Beatles, and the first to check out of Rishikesh. In reality he understood the knowledge quicker and more profoundly than most others. Check out the Official Biography of the Beatles to see what he says about the experience of meeting Maharishi and enjoying the effects; his firm understanding of the dynamics of TM and of the peace that TM brought him is obvious to all. His speech today was indeed very personal and very sweet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: To Protest McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert CANCELLED
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) John, I am really sorry you found it necessary to cancel your web event. I believe this is simply intimidation on BG's/the TMO's part, and he/they don't have a legal leg to stand on. Sal Bottom line, he obviously doesn't really believe in this cause, on some deeper level that trumps the superficial dogmatic stuff... R.G. R.G., Are you really so out of it that you don't know what a legal bill can amount to in a single day? I do. I'd embarrassed to admit what I have put out for legal costs in the last ten years, but it's a serious serious OMG hunk, and I thereby purchased an education in lawyers, let me tell you. They can take ten thousand dollars from you just to get up to speed enough to be able to take action. The legal arena is filled with lawyers delaying and/or causing more work for chargeable hours, and the Lynch group certainly has the bux to spend if push comes to shove, but the one thing they know is that an average Joe cannot even begin to match the legal clout that a rich person can afford, and thus they can intimidate almost anyone. It would be extremely stupid to go toe to toe even if one did know in one's bones that one could support every anti-TM statement. For the record, I'd say to the anti-TMers out there, why bother? This thing is so top-heavy that it's always way past the tipping point, and this in-school meditation effort will blow up in a short time, because to teach hundreds of thousands of kids takes a lot of teachers, and who here doesn't know that TM teachers are all over the map, and not one, not two, but many of them can be counted on to royally fuck up while administrating the program? The Christians are ready to throw TMers to the lions, so why not let them take up the legal bills when some parent comes forth and says that her son's TM teacher taught her kid about Krishna or whatever. The shit storm will happen in an instant if just one triggering event happens. And it will. I would say that anyone who takes up this fight will be looking at hundreds of thousands to a million or more dollars in legal costs, and it will take a decade or more to process. Edg AKA all the justice you can afford Edg. A law-firm here has t-shirts with that as their logo. They think its funny. No surprise I got scratched by them as a juror last week.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Conference
Poor Edg..caught up in hyperbole, and wishful thinking to boot. I think you blew your wad on the wrong horse Edg! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: enlightened_dawn11 wrote: thanks for posting this-- [snip] it is wonderful to hear paul m. and ringo and the others talk so openly and honestly about the lifetime benefits of TM. really brings out the dynamic truth of the expression, knowledge is structured in consciousness. liked ringo's t-shirt too... ED, Bull fucking shit. Anyone in their position, set-up as they, groomed as they, know what to say and when to say it when they have to pony up for a few minutes on a mike. It's all role-playing performances. Let's see Lynch tell why TM didn't dent his smoking habit or why Paul couldn't even please a one-legged wife, or why John's bad karma wasn't avoided, or why George was stabbed and died early, or why Ringo, well, why he still looks like Ringo. All TM teachers have proudly proclaimed in their lectures the existence of things they simply have not experienced, and these rich celebrities are as sheltered from the real world as can be -- would even one of these folks be touting TM if they knew the money side of it? Think about it, these folks are coming out to stand up for TM just like Tom Cruise for Scientology -- they're taking their professional images and putting them at great risk should the instructions ever begin in public schools and THEN and ONLY THEN do they see what they've associated themselves with. Once the lawsuits start flying, you won't find these folks clamoring to be exponents of consciousness or apologists for TM -- they'll say, TM? Oh, I tried that once, I think. You know, just exactly what you'd do if your asking price for your services were suddenly about to go from $10,000,000 a picture down to $5,000,000. I feel sorry for the celebrities -- they're going to be ripped off and then embarrassed in the public eye, and they're just not trained to handle the questions about the underbelly of the TMO -- they'll be fodder for the tabloids if they try to come off as wise and guru-ish. Headline: David Lynch loses millions to cult scam Edg
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[FairfieldLife] Wind turbines could more than meet U.S. electricity needs, report says
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-energy3-2009apr03,0,7532220.story?track=rss http://tinyurl.com/dzasmm* * Temperature difference caused by taking the power out of the wind would be around 1 degree difference, about the same as the localized effect of a city. * *[image: Los Angeles Times] http://www.latimes.com/ The Interior Department report, which looks at the potential of wind turbines off the U.S. coast, is part of the government's process to chart a course for offshore energy development. By Jim Tankersley April 3, 2009 Reporting from Arlington, Va. -- Wind turbines off U.S. coastlines could potentially supply more than enough electricity to meet the nation's current demand, the Interior Department reported Thursday. Simply harnessing the wind in relatively shallow waters -- the most accessible and technically feasible sites for offshore turbines -- could produce at least 20% of the power demand for most coastal states, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said, unveiling a report by the Minerals Management Service that details the potential for oil, gas and renewable development on the outer continental shelf. The biggest wind potential lies off the nation's Atlantic coast, which the Interior report estimates could produce 1,000 gigawatts of electricity -- enough to meet a quarter of the national demand. The report also notes large potential in the Pacific, including off the California coast, but said the area presented technical challenges. The Interior Department released an executive summaryhttp://www.doi.gov/ocs/ExecutiveSummary-final.pdfof the report on Thursday. It noted that strong wind resources also exist offshore California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii, but it appears that the majority of this resource lies in deep waters where technology constraints are potentially significant -- a sentiment Salazar echoed when asked about Pacific wind potential. The report also suggests vast oil and gas reserves off the Pacific coast: the equivalent of 10 billion to 18 billion barrels of oil. Salazar told attendees at the 25x'25 Summit in Virginia, a gathering of agriculture and energy representatives exploring ways to cut carbon dioxide emissions, that we are only beginning to tap the potential of offshore renewable energy. The report is a step in the Obama administration's mission to chart a course for offshore energy development, an issue that gained urgency last year amid high oil prices and chants of Drill, baby, drill at the Republican National Convention. Critics have accused President Obama and Salazar of dragging their feet on new oil and gas drilling, and Thursday's report does little to rebut those complaints. It includes no new estimates of potential oil and gas reserves offshore and notes that some of the existing estimates are based on 25-year-old seismic studies. Meeting with reporters after his speech, Salazar said he would wait to decide whether to commission new seismic studies until after he convened a four-stop series of offshore energy hearings, which begin next week in Atlantic City, N.J. In San Francisco, a hearing will be held April 16 at 9 a.m. at the Mission Bay Conference Center at UC San Francisco. Drilling advocates say updated estimates could show even more offshore oil potential. In contrast, Salazar said he expected a push to expedite offshore wind development to be one of the most significant aspects at the hearings. He pledged to finalize guidelines for such development, which the Bush administration failed to complete before leaving office, within about two months. jtankers...@tribune.com
[FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles:
Reuters: Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_beatles http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_beatles ---OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 6:28 PM, sparaig wrote: Um, that number is totally bogus, spare. I heard they started at $75...don't know what the most expensive were, but it's seriously unlikely they came anywhere near that. They can't even get anywhere near that much scalping them. Sal Guffaw. Rumors were that they sold out in just a few minutes and ended up being scalped on ebay for close to $10 grand each. This is how urban legends are created...you don't have to go by rumors, spare...here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/cm6zdn Only a few left, of course, but what they're going for now is very representative of what they've been going for all week. You can pretned that 6000 seats in a charity concert sell for $75 each in NTC but I think you're slightly out of your mind.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles: Reuters: Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_beatles http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_beatles George once said that after Rishikesh, everyone's egos went crazy and it was the beginning of the end.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Public Webcast of the Press Conference for the David Lynch Foundation Benefi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 3, 2009, at 6:28 PM, sparaig wrote: Um, that number is totally bogus, spare. I heard they started at $75...don't know what the most expensive were, but it's seriously unlikely they came anywhere near that. They can't even get anywhere near that much scalping them. Sal Guffaw. Rumors were that they sold out in just a few minutes and ended up being scalped on ebay for close to $10 grand each. This is how urban legends are created...you don't have to go by rumors, spare...here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/cm6zdn Only a few left, of course, but what they're going for now is very representative of what they've been going for all week. You can pretned that 6000 seats in a charity concert sell for $75 each in NTC but I think you're slightly out of your mind. Well 9 grand might have been high, but you were saying $75 Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of off_world_beings Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles: Reuters: Paul McCartney says meditation helped stabilize Beatles: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_beatles http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_beatles George once said that after Rishikesh, everyone's egos went crazy and it was the beginning of the end. The headline is misleading. Here's what Paul actually said: For me, it came at a time when we were looking for something to kind of stabilize us toward the end of the crazy '60s.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Wind turbines could more than meet U.S. electricity needs, report says
The problem with wind turbines is if you put up too many of them they will cut down all winds blowing across the world and this will cause our planet to stop spinning on its axis and we will all be throw into deep space along with planes, trains, automobiles, and anything else that isn't tethered to Mother Earth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-energy3-2009apr03,0,7532220.story?track=rss http://tinyurl.com/dzasmm* * Temperature difference caused by taking the power out of the wind would be around 1 degree difference, about the same as the localized effect of a city. * *[image: Los Angeles Times] http://www.latimes.com/ The Interior Department report, which looks at the potential of wind turbines off the U.S. coast, is part of the government's process to chart a course for offshore energy development. By Jim Tankersley April 3, 2009 Reporting from Arlington, Va. -- Wind turbines off U.S. coastlines could potentially supply more than enough electricity to meet the nation's current demand, the Interior Department reported Thursday. Simply harnessing the wind in relatively shallow waters -- the most accessible and technically feasible sites for offshore turbines -- could produce at least 20% of the power demand for most coastal states, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said, unveiling a report by the Minerals Management Service that details the potential for oil, gas and renewable development on the outer continental shelf. The biggest wind potential lies off the nation's Atlantic coast, which the Interior report estimates could produce 1,000 gigawatts of electricity -- enough to meet a quarter of the national demand. The report also notes large potential in the Pacific, including off the California coast, but said the area presented technical challenges. The Interior Department released an executive summaryhttp://www.doi.gov/ocs/ExecutiveSummary-final.pdfof the report on Thursday. It noted that strong wind resources also exist offshore California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii, but it appears that the majority of this resource lies in deep waters where technology constraints are potentially significant -- a sentiment Salazar echoed when asked about Pacific wind potential. The report also suggests vast oil and gas reserves off the Pacific coast: the equivalent of 10 billion to 18 billion barrels of oil. Salazar told attendees at the 25x'25 Summit in Virginia, a gathering of agriculture and energy representatives exploring ways to cut carbon dioxide emissions, that we are only beginning to tap the potential of offshore renewable energy. The report is a step in the Obama administration's mission to chart a course for offshore energy development, an issue that gained urgency last year amid high oil prices and chants of Drill, baby, drill at the Republican National Convention. Critics have accused President Obama and Salazar of dragging their feet on new oil and gas drilling, and Thursday's report does little to rebut those complaints. It includes no new estimates of potential oil and gas reserves offshore and notes that some of the existing estimates are based on 25-year-old seismic studies. Meeting with reporters after his speech, Salazar said he would wait to decide whether to commission new seismic studies until after he convened a four-stop series of offshore energy hearings, which begin next week in Atlantic City, N.J. In San Francisco, a hearing will be held April 16 at 9 a.m. at the Mission Bay Conference Center at UC San Francisco. Drilling advocates say updated estimates could show even more offshore oil potential. In contrast, Salazar said he expected a push to expedite offshore wind development to be one of the most significant aspects at the hearings. He pledged to finalize guidelines for such development, which the Bush administration failed to complete before leaving office, within about two months. jtankers...@...
