[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: For example, Chuck Norris, the preeminent black belt and prospective Red Shirt, wrote earlier this month on the conservative blog WorldNetDaily: How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? Here's an interesting tidbit about Chuck Norris, for those who care. Way back in the Sixties, in my first no-contact karate contest, I lost the luck of the draw and wound up fighting Chuck Norris. I was a mere brown belt and he was on his way to his first World Championship; he whupped my ass good. But in that contest I caught a glimpse of what would later turn into his secret ultra-conserva- tism and what underlies it. One of his students in that contest was, in my opinion, better than Chuck was. There was no doubt in my mind that the younger student would have won, had he gone ahead to fight Chuck for the title. But he didn't. And the *reason* he didn't is that Chuck had a rule in his dojo that said that no lower-belt student in his karate school could ever fight a higher-belt student in a public contest. So the younger guy just bowed to Chuck and conceded the contest he should have won. THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation of the status quo, with the people at the top *staying* at the top, enforced by rules that ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit. Later in life, that student grew tired of Chuck's endless bullshit in the dojo and left and formed his own. He was the person who took Chuck's World Championship away from him. When it happened, all of Chuck's students, both past and present, cheered. There is a lesson of some sort in this, one that spiritual teachers and pretend-kings should learn.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: snip Something good is happening. I never doubted Vaj was a fraud. He certainly didn't sound like he knew anything AT ALL about TM. Worse yet, he claimed he was a TM teacher but failed to produce a shred of evidence. Think what you like about his points, this challenge is absurd if he wants to keep his name off this forum. Oh, he could produce some evidence that couldn't be linked to his name, like which TTC he attended and the names of those who ran it, or helped MMY run it. (Of course, he could get such information from someone who actually was there even if he wasn't, but at least it would be *something*.) Agreed. I think he is jerking your chain a bit by withholding it. . . . There's a reason why Vaj is the only person on FFL claiming to have been a TM teacher whose credentials have been seriously challenged. I may not have followed enough of this closely enough to really get your point. You may have a better case than I know about. Personally, I think it's fascinating that the SAME people who were claiming that me asking enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis are now piling on to Raunchydog's demand for Vaj to do the same thing. :-) :-) :-) It's only invasive and an attack and harrassment if an anti-TMer does it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: what is funny now is the absolute contortions the TM bashers are working themselves into, to refute and negate this massive concert that will be held by some of the world's most famous musicians. snip i think this concert is so beneficial to reinvigorating the message of TM, and introducing a new generation to it. it is something nobody expected, least of all those who run the TMO. just shows the silent power of the Maharishi, Guru Dev and all of those who practice this technique. compared to all of that, these few hysterical TM critics come across as less and less effective every day. I have been puzzling over the concert and certainly see how it has reinvigorated hard core TM'ers. Much more interesting is, as ed11 says, how it has reinvogorated the TM critics. They haven't been so distraught in a long while. Ahem. You will have posted out before Monday. So, at their current rate, will Nabby and sparaig and the other compulsive TM apologists. Whereas we critics will still be here discussing more important things, like music and appreciating life. Which strikes you as more distraught? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the teraining of hte kids and the teachers. PLEASE stop saying this. It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not putting a PENNY of its own money on the line. Not only that, it's MAKING money on every student instructed. Same as it ever was. The TMO strategy is to get OTHER PEOPLE to pay IT for saving the world. Stop perpetuating something that even YOU know is a lie, Lawson.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:38 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation of the status quo, with the people at the top *staying* at the top, enforced by rules that ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit. Those rules more often than not being backed up by guns of one sort or another, in order to ensure that whether or not people see through the sham, they still pay lip service to it. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Personally, I think it's fascinating that the SAME people who were claiming that me asking enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis are now piling on to Raunchydog's demand for Vaj to do the same thing. :-) :-) :-) It's only invasive and an attack and harrassment if an anti-TMer does it. Another hallmark of rabid conservatism: hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Sharp pencil? :D
One of the best speakers of the 20th century? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgJQUXr2Ws
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: what is funny now is the absolute contortions the TM bashers are working themselves into, to refute and negate this massive concert that will be held by some of the world's most famous musicians. snip i think this concert is so beneficial to reinvigorating the message of TM, and introducing a new generation to it. it is something nobody expected, least of all those who run the TMO. just shows the silent power of the Maharishi, Guru Dev and all of those who practice this technique. compared to all of that, these few hysterical TM critics come across as less and less effective every day. I have been puzzling over the concert and certainly see how it has reinvigorated hard core TM'ers. Much more interesting is, as ed11 says, how it has reinvogorated the TM critics. They haven't been so distraught in a long while. Meltdown alert! Hysterics can be vicious as they flail about just before their final fizzle. It never ends well. http://tinyurl.com/3sbc66 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfV_ENR5IZE HeHe, very funny :-)
[FairfieldLife] N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert
Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself: http://tiny.cc/AAMZe
[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself: http://tiny.cc/AAMZe ...and Reuter's - McCartney and Starr reunite in NYC for meditation http://tiny.cc/SDn9Z
[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC Sounds as if it was a great concert. However ( you knew that was coming, right? :-), the elitist in me who considers the word songwriter to be a title that applies to people like Leonard Cohen, Bruce Cockburn, Jackson Browne, Joni Mitchell, Dylan and writers who actually deserve to be called writers is rather appalled at Paul's effort from Rishikesh, Cosmically Conscious -- C'mon, Be Cosmically Conscious, Cosmically Conscious With Me. C'mon, Be Cosmically Conscious, Cosmically Conscious With Me. Such A Joy, Joy. Such A Joy, Joy. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. I guess you have to be rounding ( and, actually, Rishikesh was pre-rounding, so they were just meditating for 6-8 hours straight, with no asanas or breaks ) to appreciate the literary and intellectual delights of such a song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMibPI55Ack Betcha Jim loves it. No big words. No concepts to deal with. Dare I say it, effortless. To paraphrase a better Beatles song, Turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream...it is not mindmush...it is not mindmush... Something good is happening. I guess. :-) That said, Sheryl Crow is hot. *And*, unlike Paul, a decent songwriter. Now that she's dumped Lance Armstrong, she can warm my bicycle seat any day.
[FairfieldLife] TM Concert in NYC
From a friend: What a magical night. Sheryl Crowe sang My Sweet Lord, Paul McCartney played about 12 songs Ringo about 4. It was a sensational evening. Jerry Seinfeld did stand up Howard Stern told the story of his mother learning to do TM. Kenny Ross was her teacher. Fred Shelley Gratzon, Ron Bovard, Sheila, Ken. Dennis Ramondi, Susan, Burt ... and a legion of others convened at the Marriott they ware staying in for our party. Ben Harper, Moby Paul Horn were all amazing. Jerry Jarvis was there, Paul Faureso, Steve Collins Jane Allon. It was an experience of a lifetime. All the performers told stories about Maharishi if they had personal contact with him. Liz's daughter, Claire Howard, was there reporting for Rolling Stone. I wanted to get this all down before the excitement wore off. David Lynch Laura Dern MC'd the whole show. The film clips were flawless We're back in the vanguard. I think there's a new wave of meditators coming. Gotta rest. Paul McCartney is a master. Love, Kath
[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself: http://tiny.cc/AAMZe Both news reports emphasized the line-up for the performance and said very little about TM or teaching kids to meditate. It is not true and pure snark that this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself. The concert sounded like a lot of fun and they raised $3 million for DLF. It was a huge success. Sour grapes, much?
[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself: http://tiny.cc/AAMZe Both news reports emphasized the line-up for the performance and said very little about TM or teaching kids to meditate. It is not true and pure snark that this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself. The concert sounded like a lot of fun and they raised $3 million for DLF. It was a huge success. Sour grapes, much? Sorry, mainstream, my bad. I thought you were a troll. Thanks for the reports.
[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself: http://tiny.cc/AAMZe Both news reports emphasized the line-up for the performance and said very little about TM or teaching kids to meditate. It is not true and pure snark that this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself. The concert sounded like a lot of fun and they raised $3 million for DLF. It was a huge success. Sour grapes, much? Stop picking a fight, raunchy. ...could have been written by B. Roth himself is a compliment to Bobby Roth and the DLF.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wind turbines could .. and the Planet Niroba
grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: This is an interesting and entertaining book -- from first glance. But my impression of such books is that they were written by a group from the last Star Trek convention. As for Chapter 15, I think you may be right. It does seem a bit far fetched. As for the rest, its a bit like TM. There is no need to believe anything. Do it and you will see. Build a Bedini SG. Build a Charles Flynn. As for VC firms, they are as narrow minded as it is possible to get. They will never get involved. They are brain dead. Yes, Grate Swan, why don't YOU build one?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wind turbines could .. and the Planet Niroba
Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: There are a number of off grid electrical systems operating here in Fairfield. It is nice to notice the announcement of an increase in electrical rates in the paper and realize it is irrelevant. Irrelevant? Oh, no. As their rates go up, so too do the rates at which you sell your surplus back to them. You increase your feed-in tarriff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Woman Arrived at the Gates of Heaven.....
A woman arrived at the Gates of Heaven. While she was waiting for Saint Peter to greet her, she peeked through the gates. She saw a beautiful banquet table. Sitting all around were her parents and all the other people she had loved and who had died before her. They saw her and began calling greetings to her, Hello - How are you! We've been waiting for you! Good to see you. When Saint Peter came by, the woman said to him, This is such a wonderful place! How do I get in? You have to spell a word, Saint Peter told her. Which word? the woman asked. Love. The woman correctly spelled Love and Saint Peter welcomed her into Heaven.. About a year later, Saint Peter came to the woman and asked her to watch the Gates of Heaven for him that day. While the woman was guarding the Gates of Heaven, her husband arrived. I'm surprised to see you, the woman said. How have you been? Oh, I've been doing pretty well since you died, her husband told her. I married the beautiful young nurse who took care of you while you were ill. And then I won the multi-state lottery. I sold the little house you and I lived in and bought a huge mansion. And my wife and I travelled all around the world. We were on vacation in Cancun and I went water skiing today. I fell and hit my head, and here I am. What a bummer! How do I get in? You have to spell a word, the woman told him. Which word? her husband asked. Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis , she replied. :):):):) Moral of the story: Never make a woman angry . . . there will be Hell to pay! NB: The longest word currently listed in the Oxford dictionary is the supposed lung-disease pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanokoniosis (45 letters). http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: BEATLES RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL 4/4/09
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: 1- DRIVE MY CAR 2- LADY MADONNA 3- LET IT BE 4-BLACKBIRD 5- CAN'T BUY ME LOVE 6-LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS 7-I SAW HER STANDING THERE 8-JET 9-BAND ON THE RUN 10-JOHN LENNON DEDICATION SONG 11- YELLOW SUBMARINE 12-BOYS 13-IT DON'T COME EASY IMG_0150 [snip] The pics don't show up on the website. Here's a PDF of the emailed post with the pictures included: http://is.gd/qQk5
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:38 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation of the status quo, with the people at the top *staying* at the top, enforced by rules that ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit. Those rules more often than not being backed up by guns of one sort or another, in order to ensure that whether or not people see through the sham, they still pay lip service to it. Sal People are starting to see and, lip service is fading.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wind turbines could .. and the Planet Niroba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tres...@... wrote: Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: There are a number of off grid electrical systems operating here in Fairfield. It is nice to notice the announcement of an increase in electrical rates in the paper and realize it is irrelevant. Irrelevant? Oh, no. As their rates go up, so too do the rates at which you sell your surplus back to them. You increase your feed-in tarriff. Not being connected to the grid, I don't have that problem.
[FairfieldLife] Duplicity
No, not the Rajas dressing up as straight people for the cameras, the movie. :-) I just watched it, and I don't understand why it didn't do better. There is great chemistry here onscreen, between two of the great masters of chemistry, Julia Roberts and Clive Owen. Good plot and backup performances from Paul Giamatti and Tom Wilkinson to boot. Snappy dialog, corp- orate espionage, players who are totally unemo- tional professionals...except when jealousy and emotion gets in the way, the whole tamale. It's a caper flick, a quadruple game, a classic of the genre, the original Thomas Crown Affair- like, with twists and turns and tension out the wazoo. And funny and sexy to boot. But it flopped at the box office. As if Julia Roberts were too old to lust after or something. Maybe it's the Taos vibe (she lives there, and I used to live in Santa Fe), but I still think she's hotter than yer average babe. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] What's so special about Sarah?
Remember when liberals and progressives said that the sex lives of politicians were nobody's business? Now they want to know about the intimate details of the sex life of Sarah Palin's daughter! Talk about hypocrisy. read more: http://tinyurl.com/c2dx6g http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/whats-so-special-about-sarah/ UPDATE: My post yesterday What's so special about Sarah brought out the trolls like bailout money brings out the CEO's. I was struck by the fact that all their criticism of her is based on lies. This comment is typical: lauren, on April 4th, 2009 at 11:27 pm Said: I hate her because she's murdering wolves from airplanes, and encouraging that behavior because she's rabidly anti-choice, and loss of our freedom is terrifying to me. Read more: Un-Enlightened Obots http://tinyurl.com/c8246h http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/un-enlightened-obots/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
to talk of it isn't true and you know- who can be said to be making money? a non-profit org? A non-profit does not destroy itself to fund its current programs.Bevan's salary is known through public disclosure -it a very small amount. I have seen the salaries of other head of non-profits- its nothing by comparison. Its a complete falsehood to speak of making money . The result of the David Lynch Foundation can be seen in 100,000 students currently meditating in GROUPS in the program. So to YOU PLEASE stop saying this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the teraining of hte kids and the teachers. PLEASE stop saying this. It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not putting a PENNY of its own money on the line. Not only that, it's MAKING money on every student instructed. Same as it ever was. The TMO strategy is to get OTHER PEOPLE to pay IT for saving the world. Stop perpetuating something that even YOU know is a lie, Lawson.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Personally, I think it's fascinating that the SAME people who were claiming that me asking enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis are now piling on to Raunchydog's demand for Vaj to do the same thing. :-) :-) :-) Notice that Barry is having a little trouble with his sentence structure here. What exactly were these people claiming before they piled on? That part of the sentence seems to have gotten detached and put in the next sentence. Oopsie. It's only invasive and an attack and harrassment if an anti-TMer does it. No, it's only invasive and an attack and hartassment [sic] if there's no good reason for it. (And I wasn't piling on to Raunchy's demand; I was explaining to Curtis why it was reasonable to wonder if Vaj had ever been a TM teacher, and how he could provide some evidence without revealing his name if he wanted to ensure vicious TMers wouldn't be able to hunt him down.) And BTW, if Barry is so sure ed11 is Jim, why is he asking for proof of her TMer credentials? He never asked Jim. Double-oopsie. Oh, my, and the other day Barry made it crystal clear the term anti-TMer was a deadly insult-- and here he's using it to describe himself! Triple-oopsie. Could Barry be a little...distraught? Maybe the success of the concert and Barry's interest in McCartney's songwriting prowess has reminded him of this song: Dear Sir or Madam, will you read my book? It took me years to write, will you take a look? It's based on a novel by a man named Lear And I need a job, so I want to be a paperback writer Paperback writer It's the dirty story of a dirty man And his clinging wife doesn't understand His son is working for the Daily Mail It's a steady job but he wants to be a paperback writer Paperback writer Paperback writer It's a thousand pages, give or take a few I'll be writing more in a week or two I can make it longer if you like the style I can change it round and I want to be a paperback writer Paperback writer If you really like it, you can have the rights It could make a million for you overnight If you must return it, you can send it here But I need a break and I want to be a paperback writer Paperback writer Paperback writer Paperback writer, paperback writer Paperback writer, paperback writer Paperback writer, paperback writer ... © SONY/ATV TUNES LLC© SONY BEATLES LTD Lyrics provided by Gracenote
[FairfieldLife] McCartney:rule the world,
It started for us when we met the Maharishi in India and it's going to get bigger and bigger and rule the world, McCartney said http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN05371050
Re: [FairfieldLife] BEATLES RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL 4/4/09
Cosmic. Sal
[FairfieldLife] The Palin Family Soap Opera - Continuing Adventures
TODAY'S EPISODE ~ -Levi Johnston says ex-fiance Bristol Palin, daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, allows him to visit their 3-month-old son but won't let him take the baby out. In an interview to air Monday with talk show host Tyra Banks, Johnston, 19, said he and 18-year-old Bristol don't always get along. Some days we can have regular conversations without fighting, Johnston said. Most of the times, I don't know what's wrong with her. She's in a pretty bad mood, she's short, she doesn't want me around, I don't think. She says that I can come see the baby and that kind of thing, but won't let me take him anywhere. The two are the parents of an infant son, Tripp, born on Dec. 27. Palin family spokeswoman Meghan Stapleton said Bristol Palin was unaware Johnston would be appearing on The Tyra Banks Show, along with his mother, Sherry, and sister, Mercede. We're disappointed that Levi and his family, in a quest for fame, attention and fortune, are engaging in flat-out lies, gross exaggeration, and even distortion of their relationship, Stapleton said in a statement Friday. == Whew. That spokeswoman told them! I mean, working for Sarah Palin, I'll bet she knows whereof she speaks. == In the interview with Banks, Johnston said the Alaska governor probably knew he and Bristol were having sex. Moms are pretty smart, he said. = Well, Levi's mom wasn't smart enough to avoid getting busted for (allegedly) selling hillbilly heroin to an undercover cop in the Target parking lot. = In other news, Todd Palin's sisterTripp Palin's great auntwas busted on Thursday for burglary: = Todd Palin's half-sister was arrested Thursday after police say she broke into a Wasilla home to steal money for the second time this week but ended up getting caught by the armed homeowner with her 4-year-old daughter nearby. [ ] Police arrested 35-year-old Diana Palin at a house on West Mill Site Circle near Wasilla's Multi-Use Sports Complex. Homeowner Theodore Turcott told police an unfamiliar gray 1993 Toyota Camry pulled into his driveway Thursday morning, according to a affidavit filed Friday at Palmer courthouse. Turcott told police he'd been burglarized twice in the last week: Someone stole $2,200 on March 26, leaving $400 behind; after another apparent break-in Tuesday all but $9 was gone. So, Turcott told police, when he didn't recognize the woman getting out of the Camry, he grabbed a gun and hid in the bathroom to see what happened, said Wasilla police Deputy Chief Greg Wood. Palin made straight for the bedroom cabinet where Turcott kept his cash, Wood said. Turcott confronted her, detaining her until police arrived, he said. But before officers got there, Palin's 4-year-old daughter came in the house, the prosecutor handling the case said during a Palmer District Court hearing Friday afternoon. There was a significant safety issue regarding this 4-year-old child, prosecutor Mike Walsh told Judge John Wolfe. The girl told police she'd been to the house a couple of days earlier, the affidavit stated. Palin, however, said she had never been there before, and mistakenly thought it was a friend's house. How Palin chose Turcott's house to enter remains unclear. Palin and her husband, Scott McLean, live in a completely different neighborhood on the other side of Wasilla. McLean was not at the Friday hearing. Earlier in the day, he said he learned of his wife's arrest when police called him Thursday morning to come pick up their daughter. He'd assumed Palin was arrested for driving on a suspended license due to a series of traffic offenses including speeding and expired registration. == Remember, Sarah Palin is a family values candidate. ~~All links here: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/3/716349/-The-Palin-Crime-Family
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Woman Arrived at the Gates of Heaven.....
Arhata, Your post, below, is a hate joke. It makes fun of women for what is essentially their best quality -- the ability to know their emotional field with a clarity men know not of. I'm probably going to get in trouble with women in this essay, but here I go. A man can remember thoughts he had years ago, but only a few -- out of the millions he had, but a woman can remember emotions she had like a history professor, like an idiot savant, like men remembering a sports score. And woe unto civilization if women were built differently. They constantly remind men that the tender feeling level is the place to reconnoiter in order to find out if something's amiss. If that level is uneasy, something must be fixed, and if it's not fixed, LOOK THE FUCK OUT. How do you spell DOOM -- living only in the desert of conceptuality. Women are the oasis that calls to the minds of men and reminds them that all they think comes to naught if this heart value is not satisfied. Ask any of the millionaire men who get divorced what all their power and logic did that mattered in this regard. If one doesn't take care of the tender feeling level, one is on a pogo stick in a race against a Lamborghini. Women know the tender feeling level, and most of them cannot abide any largish disturbances in THE FORCE. They have an emotional cop inside them that HAS TO note the infractions as they get created by the marauding conceptualists. Ask any man if he wants to come home to a wife who's chewing on a burped up bit from twenty years ago. Ask him if that bit is still a raw nerve in her being twanged like Arjuna's Gandiva. Ask a man if such a woman is a force to be reckoned with. To me, if anything, women should be made fun of for NOT tending to the tender feeling level. When a woman does something she knows isn't jiggy with her heart, that's like a man putting false data into a computerboth know that sooner or later things are going to crunch to a jarring halt. So, women of the world -- police yourselves better -- get women to recognize the almost absolute life-supporting dynamic for which they are resonating experts. Take up your power with the confidence that men show when they park their brand new $60,000 truck in the driveway. Strut yer stuff ladies -- make it so obvious that you ladies are no longer going to be putting up with the men who will pooh pooh any woman's intuitions. Stop holding things in. Make it known that the tender feeling level must be satisfied -- and that means the woman's feelings change for the better, and they may not be able to predict what will make that happen -- but they'll know it when it arrives. Men: don't try to force a woman to explain her emotions. Women: don't let the men divert your holy cause with conceptual baubles -- Oh, Honey, here's a two caret diamond party ring. Now doesn't that make up for my affair? Tell the clod, Nope! but take the ring just to ram it home that he's not paying attention to the real problems. Not that a man cannot conceptually augment a woman's understanding about some situation and thereby have her say, Oh, never mind. And the emotion will drop off her radar. Yes, that can happen. For instance: No, Honey, I didn't take the job, because they wanted someone to come in and kick ass and fuck over folks right and left, so don't worry about how I'll be coming home to you. Instead, I'm going to take that job where there's true hearts concerned for all the employees welfare. Now that example is an extreme, right? It shocked the men here, right? But, FUCKING A -- that's what this world needs: women calling their men on the kind of shit they're willing to put up with and heap upon others for a buck -- women who know how it roils the lives of a man's loved ones when he brings the negativity of the office home to the hearth. If you've ever worked in a large corporation, you know many times you heard someone say, He's on the warpath today, so don't get in his way. (Yes, we know how unfair it is that a woman is a bitch if she's like this.) And those folks who abide by a man's semi-controlled rage in the workplace are as if saying, Fuck all you families out there -- it ain't good business if the employees aren't whipped to their max outputs, and we just don't care how that man of yours feels when he gets home to you. This angry boss gets to shit on anyone today. Women feel that about a man when he enters the house. They feel his fatigue, the crosses he was forced to bear, the heap of emotional sinning he piled up that day -- his shame -- a shame that he doesn't even know well enough to put a finger on it conceptually. When a man comes home like that, he's needing triage bigtime, and that's cuts into the woman's ability to do all the other family activities with the light heartedness that family activities require. The Veda speaks about the purity of women being the foundation of culture.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip It's only invasive and an attack and harrassment if an anti-TMer does it. No, it's only invasive and an attack and hartassment [sic] if there's no good reason for it. My oopsie: hartassment isn't [sic], harrassment is [sic].
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCartney:rule the world,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote: It started for us when we met the Maharishi in India and it's going to get bigger and bigger and rule the world, McCartney said Wow, I wish I could remember why the Beatles left India in the first place. It must have been to write a bunch of songs about how great Maharishi was! Anyho with the continuous efforts of the Beatles touring with Maharishi (at Maharishi's request which was turned down) I'm sure Paul is right. One more thing Sir Paul, exactly how many times did you meditate in the last year yourself? And what is that smell coming out of your dressing room? Another Thanksgiving with the dysfunctional family. http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN05371050
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Personally, I think it's fascinating that the SAME people who were claiming that me asking enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis are now piling on to Raunchydog's demand for Vaj to do the same thing. :-) :-) :-) It's only invasive and an attack and harrassment if an anti-TMer does it. Another hallmark of rabid conservatism: hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do. Good grief, Sal, don't you ever tire of getting caught on the wrong end of Barry's little scams? You aren't smart enough to see 'em coming, so you're a lot better off not chiming in and making yourself look gullible.
[FairfieldLife] Four Questions Of Value Under The Stars
One of the benefits of being a renter is being the renter of a quiet, secret 10 X 15-meter garden in the heart of a gardenless city center, and having the owner of the property be responsible for its upkeep. As a result, the last few days have seen two Argen- tine gardeners slaving away to clear a year's worth of overgrowth and pine needles ( 43 large garbage bags' worth ) from my garden, while I got to work at my job and get paid for working. These two nice guys just cleared away the last of the debris today, and I am sitting in my garden now appreciating their efforts over a cold beer, just as Spring arrives in full force here in Sitges. Now that it's cleaned up, one of the next things on my agenda is to go out and take advantage of the recession to buy one of those now-underpriced digital projectors so that this Spring and Summer I can have movie nights out in the garden. It's a joy I remember from Morocco, where on the Air Force base I grew up on, we had a weird kind of walk-in drive-in theater. This theater, and making out in it under the stars with my girlfriends at ages 15 and 16, formed an indelible impression in my young mind, one that I've been hoping to recreate ever since. This year I finally get the chance. HD projectors are now cheap enough to make it feasible. So start- ing ( hopefully ) next week, I get to share my 2000+ entry film library with my friends here in Sitges, under the stars. The rules are simple -- I provide the food and the movies, they provide the drinks. ( Although, to be honest, I always have to supply some of the drinks because they never bring enough to any of my gatherings. ) And then ( theoretically ) we just sit out under the stars and enjoy a movie, and then kick back and talk about it, and talk about the stars, both cinematic and astronomical. The first film in this summer's Uncle Tantra Film Festival is going to be one of my all-time favorites. I've told my friends about it many times, but being ( on the whole ) younger than I am and caught up in the pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-cynical milieu of modern-day Spain, many of them have never been able to kick back and enjoy the delights of a nice romantic fable, in a nice romantic setting. I hope to rectify that by showing them Jeremy Leven's wonderful Don Juan De Marco. In other parts of the world, people are getting all excited because their religion ( which they would fight to the death to deny is a religion ) is in the News, and they feel a sense of renewed inspiration that others are soon going to be converted to believe as they do, and dedicate their lives to the pursuit of the Ultimate Ineffable Goal, enlightenment. Me, I have lesser goals. I'm just hoping to share this cool garden space and a really sweet film with a few friends, and to watch them smile as some of its great scenes act themselves out under the stars for their amusement. To each his or her own goals, I guess... There are only four questions of value in life, Don Octavio. What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: only love.
[FairfieldLife] Jesus! Jerry Seinfeld a Practicing Hindu?!
I had no idea! Much less Sheryl Crow, Howard Stern, Eddie Vedder, Laura Dern, Moby and all. All practicing Hindus! (Not that there is anything wrong with that.) Who knew!
[FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?
Believe it or not, Woolworth's became... Footlocker!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I wish I had started at the start of my senior year in HS instead of a few months after the end. And I wish I had never started and my friends never started. I wish my friends had never become parusha or siddhas and lived lives sucking resources from others. I wish that they didn't take enemas and weird supplements to cure chronic disease. School is not for spiritual development. Meditate after school. Sit in silence after school. Pray after school. You sound like maybe you're a candidate for John Knapp's counseling services, Ruth. I'm serious; that's not snark. You seem genuinely distraught. He apparently does counseling over the phone, BTW. I'm getting a very disingenuous vibe here Judy. None of the issues Ruth mentioned as concerns have anything to do with John's practice. She mentions she wishes she had never started and doesn't tell us why. Wishes her friends hadn't become unable to support themselves and ended up begging money from their friends causing the conflicted feelings when you care about someone who is shaking you down instead of working. She is upset that some of her friends took pseudo scientific advice for chronic diseases and I'm guessing that this is because they didn't work. Then she states basically our society's consensus belief that specific religions not be taught in schools. These are all legitimate reasons to be as you spin it distraught and I would term it, normally pissed off for good reason. The physiological demonetization of people who challenge this teaching is a bit of a trend with you lately. When I expressed my experience that Maharishi ignored his followers, you claimed I have repressed resentment coloring my thinking. Ruth makes a list of things how the movement involvement has hurt her friendships and you kindly advise her to get a check up from the neck up. Do you really need to resort to this tactic? You have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our POVs here. How about knocking off the sophist's trick of making is seem as if the person who has issues with the teaching are caused by a physiological condition instead of dealing with the issues brought up. You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return?
[FairfieldLife] Smedley Butler, War is a racket
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. - Maj.Gen.Smedley Butler, 1935, awarded twice the Congressional Medal of Honor
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the teraining of hte kids and the teachers. PLEASE stop saying this. Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks TM is paying. In fact, in a recent post, he said, The entire thing is funded by the DLF. Perhaps Barry meant to write Please DON'T say this? I mean, we know he's having quite a struggle today to express himself clearly. It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not putting a PENNY of its own money on the line. Reasonable people who weren't looking for an excuse to put down a TMer would assume, given the givens, that Lawson didn't intend to suggest the TMO was funding it, that he meant something else entirely. I'm not sure exactly what he *did* mean, but one could always ask before activating one's peashooter (not to mention falsely suggesting Lawson had previously said what one is shooting at when he hadn't). Stop perpetuating something that even YOU know is a lie, Lawson. Oh, my, I guess Barry didn't mean DON'T say this. He *did* mean to suggest (knowingly falsely) that Lawson had been saying it all along. So much for giving Barry the benefit of the doubt.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Palin Family Soap Opera - Continuing Adventures
It's unbelievable, isn't it? Ah, those family values Repugs... You gotta give em credit-- nobody does hypocrisy like they do. Sal Keep these comin, flex! They make my day. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the teraining of hte kids and the teachers. PLEASE stop saying this. Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks TM is paying. In fact, in a recent post, he said, The entire thing is funded by the DLF. This was all based on his misunderstanding of my statement that our schools are underfunded. I didn't know why he went off on this tangent in the first place. Perhaps Barry meant to write Please DON'T say this? I mean, we know he's having quite a struggle today to express himself clearly. It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not putting a PENNY of its own money on the line. Reasonable people who weren't looking for an excuse to put down a TMer would assume, given the givens, that Lawson didn't intend to suggest the TMO was funding it, that he meant something else entirely. I'm not sure exactly what he *did* mean, but one could always ask before activating one's peashooter (not to mention falsely suggesting Lawson had previously said what one is shooting at when he hadn't). Stop perpetuating something that even YOU know is a lie, Lawson. Oh, my, I guess Barry didn't mean DON'T say this. He *did* mean to suggest (knowingly falsely) that Lawson had been saying it all along. So much for giving Barry the benefit of the doubt.
[FairfieldLife] After the Beatles
Let's face it, after they split three of the beatles did nothing but demonstrate that they were so much more than the sum of their parts. Wings were dead tedious, not a memorable tune ever. Imagine? pass the sick bag. The plastic ono band? Not for me thanks. Can't even remember what George did, a bit of chanting maybe. But Ringo, now he had the right idea. Marry a Bond girl, get outrageously drunk for ten years and then narrate Thomas the tank engine stories... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6eihw_thomas-train_shortfilms Talk about emerging with integrity intact!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return? In Judy's case, yes. That's apparently the only way she wants to deal with legitimate objections-- villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation and fake concern instead of responding rationally. And then she accuses others of being distraught. Which is why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] After the Beatles
On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Hugo wrote: Let's face it, after they split three of the beatles did nothing but demonstrate that they were so much more than the sum of their parts. Wings were dead tedious, not a memorable tune ever. Imagine? pass the sick bag. The plastic ono band? Not for me thanks. Can't even remember what George did, a bit of chanting maybe. He got hung up on the Savoy Truffle. But Ringo, now he had the right idea. Marry a Bond girl, get outrageously drunk for ten years and then narrate Thomas the tank engine stories... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6eihw_thomas-train_shortfilms Talk about emerging with integrity intact!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I wish I had started at the start of my senior year in HS instead of a few months after the end. And I wish I had never started and my friends never started. I wish my friends had never become parusha or siddhas and lived lives sucking resources from others. I wish that they didn't take enemas and weird supplements to cure chronic disease. School is not for spiritual development. Meditate after school. Sit in silence after school. Pray after school. You sound like maybe you're a candidate for John Knapp's counseling services, Ruth. I'm serious; that's not snark. You seem genuinely distraught. He apparently does counseling over the phone, BTW. I'm getting a very disingenuous vibe here Judy. None of the issues Ruth mentioned as concerns have anything to do with John's practice. She mentions she wishes she had never started and doesn't tell us why. Wishes her friends hadn't become unable to support themselves and ended up begging money from their friends causing the conflicted feelings when you care about someone who is shaking you down instead of working. She is upset that some of her friends took pseudo scientific advice for chronic diseases and I'm guessing that this is because they didn't work. Then she states basically our society's consensus belief that specific religions not be taught in schools. These are all legitimate reasons to be as you spin it distraught and I would term it, normally pissed off for good reason. The physiological demonetization of people who challenge this teaching is a bit of a trend with you lately. When I expressed my experience that Maharishi ignored his followers, you claimed I have repressed resentment coloring my thinking. Ruth makes a list of things how the movement involvement has hurt her friendships and you kindly advise her to get a check up from the neck up. Do you really need to resort to this tactic? You have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our POVs here. How about knocking off the sophist's trick of making is seem as if the person who has issues with the teaching are caused by a physiological condition instead of dealing with the issues brought up. You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return? While, as always, I bow to Curtis' ability to see the best in people, and speak to them or about them as if they were rational human beings and not pre-programmed automatons, I will respond *as I see it*, to Judy, as one of the premiere examples on this forum of a pre-programmed automaton. Judy's ENTIRE position can be summed up in her own words below: Trusting your experience is fine. Having an aha moment in which you know you don't believe is fine. What's *not* fine, IMHO, is including in that aha moment of knowledge about your own lack of belief the knowledge that other people are feeding off of each other's hysteria. That's just a way to make yourself feel better about your inability to have good results. There is a phrase to describe this position. It is called Blame the victim. Ruth's problem -- her failure -- is that she was incapable of having good results. Whereas Judy was. And as all of the TBs she so egomaniacally seeks to represent supposedly were capable of having. The issue here is ELITISM, pure and simple. Judy and those who believe as she does are the elite. They were evolved enough to appreciate the great gifts that Maharishi sold them and capable of having good results. Ruth, ignoramus and incapable as she is, was not. THAT is the message that Judy is trying to convey. Curtis is being easy on the bitch. I have no such reservations. Judy's ENTIRE position is that anyone who does not agree with her as to 1) what Maharishi really meant when he said things, 2) what his message really was, 3) what the benefit of that message was, and 4) pretty much anything else she has an opinion on is a LOSER. They are somehow LESS than she is, incapable of seeing how profound the things she believes are pro- found really are. Curtis is being *kind* to Judy here, treating her as if there is still a human being in there somewhere that could possibly respond to being treated like one. I see no such human being. I see only an automaton, one who repeats ( almost verbatim, like the uncreative parrot she is ) The Things She's Been Told Are Truth. In Judy's defense, I think she really DOES believe that these things ARE Truth. But
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four Questions Of Value Under The Stars
Sounds like a good time for one and all. Why not make it international? Post the film sufficiently in advance so global cinematic voyeurs can bring NetFlix tetering to its knees with the sudden global demand for a particular flick (though its on instant -- it will only clobber their servers. You could Skype your patio so participants from afar could converse. With some 2-way video to make it a bit more intimate. And of course real time chat. The time difference might be a bummer. But then that gives you an excuse to cinematically party at all hours. And global participants could be encouraged to wire you a case of fine wines from the local region. The UT International Film Festival, Revival and Continuous Party. And get the stars, writers and directors involved. Invite Liv when you show Stealing Beauty. And Eva Greene -- well just invite her always. The sun never sets on a good flick. Can we start with Godard? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Now that it's cleaned up, one of the next things on my agenda is to go out and take advantage of the recession to buy one of those now-underpriced digital projectors so that this Spring and Summer I can have movie nights out in the garden. It's a joy I remember from Morocco, where on the Air Force base I grew up on, we had a weird kind of walk-in drive-in theater. This theater, and making out in it under the stars with my girlfriends at ages 15 and 16, formed an indelible impression in my young mind, one that I've been hoping to recreate ever since. This year I finally get the chance. HD projectors are now cheap enough to make it feasible. So start- ing ( hopefully ) next week, I get to share my 2000+ entry film library with my friends here in Sitges, under the stars. The rules are simple -- I provide the food and the movies, they provide the drinks. ( Although, to be honest, I always have to supply some of the drinks because they never bring enough to any of my gatherings. ) And then ( theoretically ) we just sit out under the stars and enjoy a movie, and then kick back and talk about it, and talk about the stars, both cinematic and astronomical. The first film in this summer's Uncle Tantra Film Festival is going to be one of my all-time favorites. I've told my friends about it many times, but being ( on the whole ) younger than I am and caught up in the pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-cynical milieu of modern-day Spain, many of them have never been able to kick back and enjoy the delights of a nice romantic fable, in a nice romantic setting. I hope to rectify that by showing them Jeremy Leven's wonderful Don Juan De Marco. In other parts of the world, people are getting all excited because their religion ( which they would fight to the death to deny is a religion ) is in the News, and they feel a sense of renewed inspiration that others are soon going to be converted to believe as they do, and dedicate their lives to the pursuit of the Ultimate Ineffable Goal, enlightenment. Me, I have lesser goals. I'm just hoping to share this cool garden space and a really sweet film with a few friends, and to watch them smile as some of its great scenes act themselves out under the stars for their amusement. To each his or her own goals, I guess... There are only four questions of value in life, Don Octavio. What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: only love.
Re: [FairfieldLife] McCartney:rule the world,
shukra69 wrote: It started for us when we met the Maharishi in India and it's going to get bigger and bigger and rule the world, McCartney said http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN05371050 We don't need no stinkin' theocracies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Duplicity
TurquoiseB wrote: No, not the Rajas dressing up as straight people for the cameras, the movie. :-) I just watched it, and I don't understand why it didn't do better. There is great chemistry here onscreen, between two of the great masters of chemistry, Julia Roberts and Clive Owen. Good plot and backup performances from Paul Giamatti and Tom Wilkinson to boot. Snappy dialog, corp- orate espionage, players who are totally unemo- tional professionals...except when jealousy and emotion gets in the way, the whole tamale. It's a caper flick, a quadruple game, a classic of the genre, the original Thomas Crown Affair- like, with twists and turns and tension out the wazoo. And funny and sexy to boot. But it flopped at the box office. As if Julia Roberts were too old to lust after or something. Maybe it's the Taos vibe (she lives there, and I used to live in Santa Fe), but I still think she's hotter than yer average babe. Go figure. If she could only act.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return? In Judy's case, yes. That's apparently the only way she wants to deal with legitimate objections-- villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation and fake concern instead of responding rationally. And then she accuses others of being distraught. Which is why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies. Yes, you're right, these have been common tactics in the past--all part and parcel of her overall dishonest approach. Another fave, and if I'm grokking tidbits in others clippings correctly, is when nailed on something or particularly when some TM dogmatic point she's VERY attached to is rent asunder, rather than addressing the actual intellectual or factual elements of the argument, she'll switch to some unrelated element in the person: they don't understand stand TM (as when they no longer use TM speak), their counseling practice, faulty TM practice, etc. The varieties seem endless, but the pattern is observable and repeated. It's interesting the person who seems so fond of telling people they are guilty of non sequiturs is actually the one who tries to craftily use them herself. Apparently misdirection must be the only way she can respond when arguments stray outside of TB/SCI/TM milieu. Sometimes it's better to just shuddup. Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to shoe leather. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Vaj wrote: Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to shoe leather. ;-) LOL Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.comwrote: Where the hell were all these right wing Constitutionalists when BushCo was wiping its collective ass with the Constitution for eight fucking years? Alex, I've been wondering the very same thing for months now. These very same people who had no problem when Bush was trampling the Constitution and the Bill of Rights suddenly are His Majesty's loyal minority in every congressional vote, there to try to save the US Constitution from the Democrats and Obama. Add to that the governor of my state who will not relent on accepting stimulus money and actually has a fellow Republican senator shouting him down. Hopefuly our legislature will be able to bypass Perry. And what is Perry's stance on why he refuses to sign on to the Stimulus Bill? Because he wants to defend the US Constitution and states rights. States rights? Wasn't that a George Wallace thing? I wonder if Barry Goldwater is not hiding somewhere in the midst of these Republicans? Now which Conservatives are we talking about? I'm been watching conservatives fighting conservatives for several years now. We have the Rush Limbaugh conservatives which really probably aren't conservatives at all but just sheep that follow the Pied Piper of New York radio (though Rush started out in Sacramento). Then we have the Constitutional Conservatives who are mainly the Ron Paul crowd and listen to the Pied Piper of Austin Radio: Alex Jones. Funny thing about the Constitutional Conservatives is they often sound very liberal get calls come in from conservatives on the radio show accusing them of being liberal. Well the Constitution is rather a liberal document so if that is your foundation then you are faily liberal but that idea makes those Christian survivalist cum-libertarian types, who are fans, heads spin like Linda Blair in The Exorcist. :-D Now the main concern of many sides is big government which is owned and operated by big business. But tell the libertarians that big business is the problem and we need to seize and redistribute the wealth of the global elite and their heads spin like Linda Blair in The Exorcist too. Seems they don't want the opportunity taken away from them to become filthy rich people and become global elite assholes themselves. Sometimes if you hold the earth at arms length you get a good idea of what a fucked up place it is. If you've ever seen weevil infested grain or flour then think of the Earth as the flour and the weevils as human beings. Then you have a super real vision of the problem. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught in lies tells many more lies, accusing someone of having a dishonest approach. Likewise Vaj who accuses others of ad-hominen arguements and never hesitates to make them. Shameless liar.Liar and shameless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return? In Judy's case, yes. That's apparently the only way she wants to deal with legitimate objections-- villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation and fake concern instead of responding rationally. And then she accuses others of being distraught. Which is why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies. Yes, you're right, these have been common tactics in the past--all part and parcel of her overall dishonest approach. Another fave, and if I'm grokking tidbits in others clippings correctly, is when nailed on something or particularly when some TM dogmatic point she's VERY attached to is rent asunder, rather than addressing the actual intellectual or factual elements of the argument, she'll switch to some unrelated element in the person: they don't understand stand TM (as when they no longer use TM speak), their counseling practice, faulty TM practice, etc. The varieties seem endless, but the pattern is observable and repeated. It's interesting the person who seems so fond of telling people they are guilty of non sequiturs is actually the one who tries to craftily use them herself. Apparently misdirection must be the only way she can respond when arguments stray outside of TB/SCI/TM milieu. Sometimes it's better to just shuddup. Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to shoe leather. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Four Questions Of Value Under The Stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Sounds like a good time for one and all. I hope so. What is the point of still being able to make a decent living during a recession if you are not able to share it with others? Why not make it international? Post the film sufficiently in advance so global cinematic voyeurs can bring NetFlix tetering to its knees with the sudden global demand for a particular flick (though its on instant -- it will only clobber their servers. It's an interesting idea. When I am able to get into Barcelona and buy the projector, I will let you know when Don Juan De Marco makes its Sitges debut. It's really a lovely film, a thing of beauty. It falls into the category ( for me ) of Writer/Directors' First Films. There is a certain magic there. It's their One Shot At Fame. Given the vaga- ries of fame and Hollywood, anyone who gets a shot at bringing their first strong vision to the screen *knows going into it* that it may be their *last* shot. So they tend to shoot their wad. Some of them, sadly, never do anything again as good as that first shot. Jeremy Leven, sadly, falls into that category. But with Don Juan, he can die easy, knowing that he created a fable for the ages, something that he will be remembered for. There are more good lines per square inch in Don Juan De Marco than in any twenty films since. Jeremy ( who I got to meet in Paris because we shared the same barber ) poured his heart and soul into this film, and it shows. It is arguably the most romantic film ever made. You could Skype your patio so participants from afar could converse. With some 2-way video to make it a bit more intimate. And of course real time chat. I shall actually look into this. Curtis has been bugging me to get a videocam so that we can Skype real-time, and I've been lazy and have never gotten around to it. But maybe this is a good excuse to Go For It. :-) The time difference might be a bummer. Not from my side. In Summer, I have to wait until 10:00 PM to start to show any outdoor film here. That would still be during viewing time for you guys in the U.S. Europeans could tune in as they saw fit. Saner people could ignore the whole exercise. :-) But then that gives you an excuse to cinematically party at all hours. And global participants could be encouraged to wire you a case of fine wines from the local region. Always appreciated. :-) The UT International Film Festival, Revival and Continuous Party. Now THAT is a legacy I could live with. :-) Forget all this enlightenment stuff. And get the stars, writers and directors involved. Invite Liv when you show Stealing Beauty. And Eva Greene -- well just invite her always. If I were to invite a Liv, it would probably be Liv Ullmann. Eva Green, on the other hand... :-) The sun never sets on a good flick. Can we start with Godard? :) I could probably endure Alphaville. :-) Wait'll I get into the Robert Rodriguez Film Festival. That's where I really shine as a reviewer and a rapper. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Smooth Jazz 94.7 LA -The Wave
Smooth Jazz is like Valium. The term of course is the opposite of hard jazz which many jazz musicians played. One of the kings of Smooth Jazz is Kenny G who back in the '70's used to sneak into the DoubleTree Inn in Renton (near Seattle) as a high school kid to listen to the jazz trio I played in. Much of this style of music started out as fusion jazz back in the 70's with Creed Taylor, Deodato, etc. who did a commercialized version of jazz with some RB influence. Prior to that if you had sprung the 13th, 11th and sharp 9th chords sprinkled throughout the smooth jazz of today you would have been accused of playing dischords to which the witty musician would usually reply which chord? Dis chord or dat chord? BTW, Valium is based on the chemical structure of valerian root or jatamansi (the Indian variety). Arhata Osho wrote: I listen to my favorite radio station in Los Angeles on my computer while I work - try it - less the commercials, it's great! Reduces any stress! Arhata Smooth Jazz, 94.7 The WAVE, KTWV-FM, Los Angeles - HomepageSmooth Jazz, 94.7 The WAVE, the Original Smooth Jazz radio station based in Los Angeles, CA and streaming Smooth Jazz worldwide. http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: snip And I wish I had never started and my friends never started. I wish my friends had never become parusha or siddhas and lived lives sucking resources from others. I wish that they didn't take enemas and weird supplements to cure chronic disease. School is not for spiritual development. Meditate after school. Sit in silence after school. Pray after school. You sound like maybe you're a candidate for John Knapp's counseling services, Ruth. I'm serious; that's not snark. You seem genuinely distraught. He apparently does counseling over the phone, BTW. I'm getting a very disingenuous vibe here Judy. None of the issues Ruth mentioned as concerns have anything to do with John's practice. Oh, they certainly do, all the ones you mention, in fact. I have the impression he more often deals with people who've been deeply involved with the TMO, but I'd be very surprised if he doesn't also have clients who have been deeply involved with people who were deeply involved, even if they themselves weren't directly involved with the TMO. She mentions she wishes she had never started and doesn't tell us why. Wishes her friends hadn't become unable to support themselves and ended up begging money from their friends causing the conflicted feelings when you care about someone who is shaking you down instead of working. She is upset that some of her friends took pseudo scientific advice for chronic diseases and I'm guessing that this is because they didn't work. Then she states basically our society's consensus belief that specific religions not be taught in schools. These are all legitimate reasons to be as you spin it distraught and I would term it, normally pissed off for good reason. Except for the last, I agree. Did I suggest anywhere that they weren't legitimate reasons to be distraught? The physiological demonetization of people who challenge this teaching is a bit of a trend with you lately. Ruth is clearly hurting. How is it physiological demonetization (did you mean psychological demonization?) to make that observation and to suggest appropriate counseling? Given what Ruth has been through with her husband and her friends, it wouldn't be normal for her *not* to be hurting. I don't know whether Ruth is having trouble dealing with her pain. If she isn't, more power to her. But if she is, counseling would be a very positive, healthy step. I'm a veteran of counseling myself. It was pre-TM, but I know how life can grind you down to the point where it becomes overwhelming. Ruth likes John. John has had a lot of experience with people who are experiencing anger and sadness that they attribute to their involvement with TM. Seems to me he'd be the perfect person to counsel her if she needs it. Hanging around FFL seems to be exacerbating her sadness and especially her anger. At any rate, she's expressing it more and more openly. That's probably a good thing up to a point, as long as it doesn't become a matter of further inflaming a wound instead of allowing it to heal. She isn't going to get 100% support for her general criticisms of TM here, and that has seemed to make her more angry. When I expressed my experience that Maharishi ignored his followers, you claimed I have repressed resentment coloring my thinking. I said I *thought* you *might* have some *residual* resentment coloring your thinking (and not just based on that one comment by any means). But if that's the case, it would be *perfectly normal*. We've all got residual emotions floating around coloring our thinking. The intellect and the emotions often don't communicate very well. Ruth makes a list of things how the movement involvement has hurt her friendships and you kindly advise her to get a check up from the neck up. If she's in serious pain, yes. I certainly could be wrong, but it sounds to me as though she is. (But it wouldn't be from the neck up, it would be from the heart up.) Do you really need to resort to this tactic? You have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our POVs here. How about knocking off the sophist's trick of making is seem as if the person who has issues with the teaching are caused by a physiological condition instead of dealing with the issues brought up. Issues with the teaching are one thing. As you note, I don't shy away from discussing issues. But negative emotions resulting from loss are very real; it doesn't *matter* how valid the person's issues with the teaching are. I don't know about you, but I don't have to agree with Ruth (or you) on the intellectual issues to empathize with your negative emotions. You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the teraining of hte kids and the teachers. PLEASE stop saying this. Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks TM is paying. In fact, in a recent post, he said, The entire thing is funded by the DLF. This was all based on his misunderstanding of my statement that our schools are underfunded. I didn't know why he went off on this tangent in the first place. I'd guess he meant the program isn't underfunded, that the schools aren't going to have to pay anything, so it isn't going to take anything away from the schools' own funding. He thought you were saying the schools were already underfunded so they couldn't afford to fund TM.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus! Jerry Seinfeld a Practicing Hindu?!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: I had no idea! Much less Sheryl Crow, Howard Stern, Eddie Vedder, Laura Dern, Moby and all. All practicing Hindus! (Not that there is anything wrong with that.) Who knew! lol...good one. OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM, shukra69 wrote: Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught in lies tells many more lies, accusing someone of having a dishonest approach. Likewise Vaj who accuses others of ad-hominen arguements and never hesitates to make them. Shameless liar.Liar and shameless. TB Shukra who still doesn't know the difference from being accused of lies by dishonest people, the ignorant or the personality disordered and actual lies. It's a distinction of convenience we see a lot here. Thanks for the demonstration. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Smooth Jazz 94.7 LA -The Wave
Interesting! Love Kenny G Musical Starstreams is good 'valium' too I alternate between the two...and a little of this and that including some rap Smooth Jazz is like Valium. The term of course is the opposite of hard jazz which many jazz musicians played. One of the kings of Smooth Jazz is Kenny G who back in the '70's used to sneak into the DoubleTree Inn in Renton (near Seattle) as a high school kid to listen to the jazz trio I played in. Much of this style of music started out as fusion jazz back in the 70's with Creed Taylor, Deodato, etc. who did a commercialized version of jazz with some RB influence. Prior to that if you had sprung the 13th, 11th and sharp 9th chords sprinkled throughout the smooth jazz of today you would have been accused of playing dischords to which the witty musician would usually reply which chord? Dis chord or dat chord? BTW, Valium is based on the chemical structure of valerian root or jatamansi (the Indian variety). Arhata Osho wrote: I listen to my favorite radio station in Los Angeles on my computer while I work - try it - less the commercials, it's great! Reduces any stress! Arhata Smooth Jazz, 94.7 The WAVE, KTWV-FM, Los Angeles - HomepageSmooth Jazz, 94.7 The WAVE, the Original Smooth Jazz radio station based in Los Angeles, CA and streaming Smooth Jazz worldwide. http://www.freedomo fspeech.netfirms .com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. - Maj.Gen.Smedley Butler, 1935, awarded twice the Congressional Medal of Honor Maj.Gen.Smedley Butler - like some indeciferable kôan - was known as The Fighting Quaker. The Peace Testimony of the Quakers: We utterly deny all outward wars and strife and fightings with outward weapons, for any end or under any pretence whatsoever. And this is our testimony to the whole world. From A Declaration to Charles II, 1661. Full text at: http://www.quaker.org/peaceweb/pdecla07.html http://www.quaker.org/peaceweb/pdecla07.html OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Judy's ENTIRE position can be summed up in her own words below: Trusting your experience is fine. Having an aha moment in which you know you don't believe is fine. What's *not* fine, IMHO, is including in that aha moment of knowledge about your own lack of belief the knowledge that other people are feeding off of each other's hysteria. That's just a way to make yourself feel better about your inability to have good results. Actually, if it summed up my ENTIRE position, I wouldn't have gone on to write what Barry carefully snipped (because if he hadn't snipped it, what he went on to say wouldn't have made any sense). Here's the rest of what I said: - We don't know why some people get results and some don't. But that some people don't get results does *not* automatically mean that all the others aren't really getting results either. Sometimes life just ain't fair. Sometimes it's really, really complicated and ambiguous and contradictory, and we can't sort it out into neat little piles. Sometimes it's more like quantum mechanics than Newtonian mechanics. (That's an *analogy*, not an equivalence.) And we're stuck with it. Unlike you, BTW, I grew up without faith. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have faith, but it doesn't seem to be anything I'm able to cultivate. So I go by my own experience and by what makes sense to my intellect. Despite my lack of experience of faith, though, I don't look at those who do have it and assume they're just hysterical. Rather, I assume they are capable of having an experience for which, for whatever reason, I'm not wired. There are enough other things in my life that give me satisfaction that I don't miss it. - The interesting thing is that in any other context, Barry would have been dumping on the person who claimed that because they weren't having a particular set of experiences, therefore nobody else was either. I mean, just *imagine* his righteous wrath if someone had claimed that because they didn't see Rama levitating, it meant that those who did were only feeding off each other's hysteria. Barry's got nuthin' on the right-wingers as far as hypocrisy is concerned.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am the eternal wrote: I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our Constitution from big government and Governor Perry, from Federalism. Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend, spend? Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this? How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas). Suddenly the Republicans have found their voice. It is to save the Republic from federalism or worse, socialism. I don't listen to the talk shows. I watch Rachel Maddow on TV half because she's cute and half because she's funny. Outside of that, I only watch snippets of CSPAN and I read the bills, see who votes for and against them, then carefully read the laws. What I see on CSPAN is very, very funny. The Republicans are born again with, I suspect, a self-defeating agenda. I don't think down the road that saying they voted against this or that stimulus or budget is going to get them anywhere. Already real estate on the west coast is starting to show signs of life, with houses at fire sales of 41% off. Real Estate agents on the west coast are busy as they've ever been. Investors are going back into real estate and they're looking at either big bargains or prices of the new reality in housing. I don't see once we're out of this mess that saying you voted against this is going to get you points. OTOH, if the Federal Reserve doesn't quickly suck liquidity out of the economy around the end of the year, we could face hyperinflation of the scale of Germany or Italy before WWII and have a double dip recession as we saw in the 1980s. Now if the Federal Reserve could manage to control the period of hyperinflation, we'd have it made: we could minimize our national debt by inflating the dollar as we have several times before.
[FairfieldLife] Twenty things I still do that I did as a True Believer
Things I still do that I did as a True Believer: (in no particular order) 1. I still honor sleep as a spiritual technique. I am very hesitant to wake someone up, and thus, by my figuring, artificially end their healing. Maharishi told us at TTC to stay in bed until driven from it. 2. Next to my bed, I have a book of Ramana that has his photo on the cover. If anything lands on top of the photo, it must be removed lest I be dishonoring (weakening the value of) this symbol of the knowledge set he taught me. I treat the photo as if he's alive, ya see? Sigh 3. I say, Jai Guru Dev whenever I kill a bug. I care about their souls. I still think of animals as having humans trapped inside of them. 4. I think all religious rites are or were once truly spiritual activities in that they deal with the emotions of worship -- which are subtle, and thereby, one practices living life at that level. 5. I still do not honor the psychological professions, and I see them as mostly bullshit in that the world has never been served by them teaching us how to raise kids that are not chauvenists, war mongers, bullies, etc. Where's their united voice decrying today's cruel and abusive educational practices? If they can't stand up for child rearing standards and be in the face of educational leaders about their disconnects, forgeddaboutdit. 6. I still have fond memories of Maharishi. I still love the fucker's giggle. 7. I still long for a one-method-cures-all panacea for the ills of the world. 8. I still haven't stopped talking about enlightenment and still think it is a possibility for many folks. (But now, not for me in this life.) 9. I still think ALL CHRISTIANS are dim-witted twerps who'd willingly ruin a life of another -- natch, for Christ, donchaknow. 10. I still think it's worthwhile for some folks (mostly the young and/or the nearly enlightened) to do a spiritual practice. 11. I believe a life that doesn't consider the impact of diet, rest, and morals is a life heading over a cliff. 12. I still believe in the Absolute as the only reality. Silence is golden. 13. I think the tender feeling level must be in the foreground of any lifestyle. The golden rule is truly the goldiest of the rules. 14. I still close my eyes to do my deepest thinking. 15. I'm still comfortable using Hindu concepts to grasp human psychology. The pantheon of gods are metaphors for our psyche's dynamics. 16. I still believe that our leaders can only fuck up as much as we individuals are fucked up, and that the world will not change if we do not change. 17. I still believe that being a true believer is not necessarily a blinkered life, and if I meet a true believer, I honor that commitment in them even if they are otherwise wrong headed. I'm kind to Mormons and LDSers when they knock. I love to pick their brains to see if they are on top of their minds and have clarity about the normal human foibles of denial, spin, rationalization, glittering generalities, etc. Love to see what they think is a fair way to debate about spiritual notions. I bow slightly when I make eye contact with priests, nuns, etc. 18. I still think 2012 might possibly be a significant milestone of history. 19. I still distrust media to get it about anything spiritual. (In the Merv era, Newsweek wrote about meditators shouting their mantras aloud to quell the stresses of the world.) 20. I still think atheists are folks who dismiss religious issues way too off-handedly. I think atheists are as spiritual as anyone in that they're heading towards a clarity about silence by their disbelieving ways as much as any religious person is doing so via prayer, hymns, etc. And so much more . . . Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return? In Judy's case, yes. That's apparently the only way she wants to deal with legitimate objections-- villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation and fake concern instead of responding rationally. Note how carefully Sal snipped what Curtis had said just above what she quoted: You have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our POVs here. Amazing. And of course she bought Curtis's misunderstanding-- that I was summing up [their] objections as stemming from a psychological problem [they] have--hook, line, and sinker. Never suggested that about either of them. Which is why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies. The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that she isn't up to it. If I were her, I wouldn't be accusing others of lacking honor and being manipulators and phonies.
[FairfieldLife] http://data.gov/ launches in late May
Coming to a PC near your, http://data.gov/ , the feed of government documents Our Savior promised us.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the teraining of hte kids and the teachers. PLEASE stop saying this. Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks TM is paying. Eh, the TMO is a non-profit. So is the DLF. The TMO gets funds from the DLF to teach kids under the TM-quiet time thing. One no-profit supporting another non-profit in a venture that is at the core of both of their charters. Seems hardly worth responding to if I confuse one with the other in casual conversation. the DLF pays for the TMO to do the action. The TMO pays for the action. No diff at this level, at least to me. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the teraining of hte kids and the teachers. PLEASE stop saying this. Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks TM is paying. In fact, in a recent post, he said, The entire thing is funded by the DLF. This was all based on his misunderstanding of my statement that our schools are underfunded. I didn't know why he went off on this tangent in the first place. Shrug. Underfunding in one program doesn't preculde getting funding to do something else. My point was that the schools are NOT underfunded concernign the TM-quiet time program. L.
[FairfieldLife] The Agamas
AGAMAS H.H. Shri Kumarswamiji The Agamas are of three kinds. The Shivagamas, the Shaktyagamas and the Vaishnavagamas according as they treat of the deity Shiva, Shakti and Vishnu as the object of worship. The Agamas are also called Tantras and there is practically no difference between the two names specially between the Agamas of the Shiva and Shakti schools, both of them are believed to have been delivered by Shiva to his consort- Parvati. Generally the Shaivagamas are called Agamas and Shaktyagamas are called Tantras. Yet Shaivagamas have an independent status and their origin is as old as three thousand years. The Shivagamas are 28 in number. But all of them are not available, few of them are available. Besides 28 principal Shivagamas there are many secondary Agamas which intend to explain the subject matter of the principal Agamas. In connection with the Agamas two important questions arise - the age of the Agamas and the contents of the Agamas. As regards the first question, the age of the Agamas can well be determined from the reference made to them in various works. Harita, a writer of Smriti and Kalidas the world famous sanskrit poet refer to the Shivagamas and both of them lived in the first century of the Christian era. Various Puranas namely Skanda Purana, Sutasamhita, Brahmagita and Shiva Purana mention the Agamas. In Kurma Purana a reference is made to the fact that Shri Krishna was taught Agamic Philosophy by Upamanyu. In the Shanti Parva and Drona Parva of Mahabharata, reference has been made to the Shivagamas. In Maitrayana Upanishad Agamic literature is referred to twice. The Swetashwetopanishad is certainly an Agamic Upanishad later followed by other Agamic Upanishads like Atharva Shiras and Kaivalya. From all this foregoing account it can well be concluded that the Agamas have their origin in times almost coeval with the Aranyakas. The Aranyakas which form part and parcel of the Vedas and the Agamas confront each other as two independent modes of thought. This fact is brought into bold belief, when we take into consideration the contents of the Vedic religion and the contents of the Agamic religion. 1. The Vedic religion consists in the performance of sacrifices with all rites and rituals, while the Agamic religion consists in the worship of the deity - Shiva, Shakti and Vishnu. 2. The Vedic deities were the forms of nature and the Vedic religion was a system of propitiation of those nature powers. Powers by means of sacrifice offered into fire regarded as the mouth of the deities; while Agamic deity was personal deity that controlled the forces of nature. 3. The oblations in the case of Vedic worship were consumed by the deities through their mouth, the fire; while the Agamic deities took only the subtle portion of the offerings exhibited to them as Prasad or consecrated food. 4. The Vedic religion was polytheistic and the different deities were invoked for different purposes because each Vedic deity has a different function in the scheme of the universe; while the Agamic religion being monotheistic only one deity was worshipped, that had all the functions of the universe in his or her hands. 5. The Vedas consist of the Mantras addressed to the different deities and recited during the performance of the sacrifices in honour of those deities; while the Agamas contain prayers consisting of various names of the deity and salutations addressed to the deity. 6. The Vedic Worship consisted of the offering made to Gods, while the Agamic worship was personal service rendered to the God, like washing, decking and feeding them. 7. The Vedic Gods being the forces of the nature had no physical representation, while the Agamic deities were represented by means of a visible emblem or image. 8. There is no trace in the hymns of the temple worship, while the worship of the idols in temples is purely Agamic. The Vedic religion is the fire cult while Agamic religion is the deitic cult. 9. The Vedas kept the door of religion restricted to some people while the Agamas kept the door of religion open to all without any distinction. 10. The Agamas treat the Yoga Philosophy and Yogic practices which are all together absent in the Samhitas or Vedic hymns. The contents of the Shivagamas are divided into four parts namely Charya, Kriya, Yoga and Jnana. The Charya and Kriya parts describe the names of worship of Shiva with love and adoration but as the discipline of love or Shakti has to be supplemented by some psychological discipline in the form of yoga practice, the third part of every Agama deals with yoga. The fourth part of the Agama deals with jnana but jnana in the sense of exposition of the philosophical principles underlying the Agama teaching. The Charyapada represents a Marga, the path of the servant following the master. The servantship is the
[FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya
Question and answers by Benjamin Creme Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. Q. Will most people feel their own soul on Declaration Day when Maitreya is speaking? A. Most people will experience their own souls, even if it is the first time in their lives. It will be an extraordinary experience for humanity. They will feel like a child; pure, listening from the heart to these wonderful words and experiencing a quality of life that they have forgotten that goes way back to their childhood when they were simple, trusting, full of love and happiness. Q. (1) It was stated in Share International News Release No.88 that in the very near future a large, bright star, a star-like luminary of brilliant power, will appear in the sky visible throughout the world, night and day. Around a week later Maitreya will give his first interview on major US television. I find this statement somewhat puzzling because the star has now been appearing around the world for over two months. (1) Does this mean that Maitreya already gave his first interview around a week after the star first began appearing around the world? (2) Or does it mean Maitreya will give his first interview around a week after the appearances of the star have reached their peak and been seen by enough people? A. (1) No. (2) Yes, precisely. It would be of little use to mount this huge project (which it is) if humanity had no time to evaluate and respond. Q. Will sightings of the star eventually become numerous enough that it becomes a top headline in the news worldwide and publicly investigated by scientists? A. I do not know what level of response is required but it is obvious that some public recognition is essential. Q. First off, I have to say thank you for making this information available. I'm truly grateful. I'm writing because I think that I saw the miracle star your Master has described. It was Saturday night and I was working late. The location was Toluca Lake, California, USA. After I left the office to go to my car I saw a star that was brighter than any other that I've seen. It had an orb shape around it. While I was driving home on the freeway I was following it with my eyes. It seemed to change its position. Sometimes it was to the left of me and sometimes it was to the right. Maybe this is because the freeway changed position; I don't know. It did seem to shift to rather dramatic variables in distance. It seemed to vanish as soon as I got off the freeway near my neighborhood. My father thought that it might be Venus. It was exceptionally bright. Whatever the case may be, that was the brightest heavenly body I've noticed to date. A. My Master has confirmed that it was indeed the Star that you followed along the freeway. It does move about which, of course, Venus does not except slowly along its own trajectory. Venus is very bright and is often confused for the Star but Venus is becoming lower and lower on the horizon and, by 28 March or so, will no longer be visible to us. The Star is even brighter than Venus, and changes position and colour. Q. In late February 2009, I was in a city in the Brazilian state of Minas Gerais. There, I saw a really bright star in the sky. It was bigger than the other stars. It was a little similar to Venus, but the colour was completely different. Venus normally is blue and the star was yellow or golden. Was that the star of Maitreya? A. Yes, it was the Star. Q. A thought about the appearance of the star occurred to me: the first news release regarding the star starts: Look now for the biggest miracle of all It sounds to me that we are told to regularly look for it, of course on evenings when there are few clouds in the west (in the case of New Zealand), and by looking for it we are inviting its appearance. And the more who look the stronger the invitation. Would this be correct? A. No, it is not really like that. The Star exists whether we look for it or not but if people do not look for it they will not necessarily see it and report it. It is necessary that it receives open public attention as a miracle a sign of Maitreya's appearance on US television. If it does not receive public attention of a certain amount it will not have served its purpose. Q. On the evening of 3 March 2009, for at least 30 minutes before the clouds came, I saw a bright star-like object on the western sky in Belgium. Could this have been the star? A. Yes, it was the Star. http://shareintl.org http://shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that she isn't up to it. If I were her, I wouldn't be accusing others of lacking honor and being manipulators and phonies. Sal is a bitter old fool angrily trying to bash everything related to the TMO because she intuitively understands that she made her life mistake stopping TM. What did you expect, anything honorable from from such a deprived and angry soul ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:57 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Question and answers by Benjamin Creme Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. Nabby, how long are you going to carry on this cargo cult? We were expecting Maitreya to arrive by Christmas. I wasn't sure I if I should buy Christmas presents because Maitreya's arrival was imminent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Question and answers by Benjamin Creme Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. In 1982 Creme placed advertisements in newspapers around the world saying, 'The Christ is now here.' According to Creme the 'Christ,' whom he also called 'Maitreya,' would announce his existence on world wide television broadcasts, and that he would do that within several months of the initial newspaper advertisement. This created a sensation within some New Age groups, and even among some Evangelical Christians; but, when the promised television broadcasts of the Maitreya/ Christ failed to occur, most of Creme's followers lost interest. But Nabby hangs in there. This may help to explain his stance with regard to Maharishi's heaven on earth as well. :-) It may also offer some comfort to those of us whom Nabby has said are going straight to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200. Creme has been saying that Maitreya was going to appear any day now since 1972, and he hasn't shown yet. So, based on that accuracy of prediction record, those of us whom Nabby has con- demned to Hell for our evil ways probably have at least 37 more years of good living left ahead of us before we have to deal with the fiery pit. :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket
From a friend: Hi Rick For much more on the truly heroic Gen. Butler, I've got a lot more on his life and revelatory political teachings at http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/General_Butler_Revelations.html. Every American should know about this true American hero and his deep concerns for this country. --timothy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From a friend: Hi Rick For much more on the truly heroic Gen. Butler, I've got a lot more on his life and revelatory political teachings at http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/General_Butler_Revelations.html. Every American should know about this true American hero and his deep concerns for this country. --timothy In an incident whose history is suppressed today, Gen. Butler was approached by representatives of the Morgan Bank who wanted him to lead a fascist military coup d'état against the Roosevelt government in 1932. Butler refused and went to the press. A Congressional investigation was eventually suppressed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket
Rick Archer wrote: From a friend: Hi Rick For much more on the truly heroic Gen. Butler, I've got a lot more on his life and revelatory political teachings at http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/General_Butler_Revelations.html. Every American should know about this true American hero and his deep concerns for this country. --timothy And of course nothing has changed since Butler blew the whistle on the corporatists. They still run the show. Someday the people will wake and take the country back. Probably unlikely though. The corporations should be more afraid of the people than the people afraid of the corporations.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am the eternal wrote: I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our Constitution from big government and Governor Perry, from Federalism. Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend, spend? Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this? How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas). Suddenly the Republicans have found their voice. It is to save the Republic from federalism or worse, socialism. The Republicans ARE big government. They just put on a different mask now that a Democrat is President. They're still fooling the small business people into thinking they represent them. Take that constituency away and they'd be about as big as the Green Party. They are the descendants of the people who wanted the Brits to win back in 1776. They are trying get the country back for the Royal Family. They are ignorant asses. Don't let them fool you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am the eternal wrote: I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our Constitution from big government and Governor Perry, from Federalism. Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend, spend? Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this? How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas). Suddenly the Republicans have found their voice. It is to save the Republic from federalism or worse, socialism. The Republicans ARE big government. They just put on a different mask now that a Democrat is President. They're still fooling the small business people into thinking they represent them. Take that constituency away and they'd be about as big as the Green Party. They are the descendants of the people who wanted the Brits to win back in 1776. They are trying get the country back for the Royal Family. They are ignorant asses. Don't let them fool you. Do you think the wingnuts will reach critical mass like they did in the seventeen hundreds or, with their late start, will it be too late?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM, shukra69 wrote: Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught in lies tells many more lies, accusing someone of having a dishonest approach. Likewise Vaj who accuses others of ad-hominen arguements and never hesitates to make them. Shameless liar.Liar and shameless. TB Shukra who still doesn't know the difference from being accused of lies by dishonest people, the ignorant or the personality disordered and actual lies. It's a distinction of convenience we see a lot here. Actually there's a very easy way to tell the difference. Actual liars are exposed when their lies are documented (such as emptybill and I and several others here do with Vaj's lies). Dishonest people who accuse others of lying simply make vague, nonspecific general accusations that they cannot document, as Vaj as done above. I suspect Shukra has no problem making this distinction.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?
Is that true? They should still sell ice cream though cause it was the cheapest. - Original Message - From: shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's? Believe it or not, Woolworth's became... Footlocker! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return? In Judy's case, yes. That's apparently the only way she wants to deal with legitimate objections-- villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation and fake concern instead of responding rationally. And then she accuses others of being distraught. Which is why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies. Another way you can tell a real liar is that they eagerly agree with lies told by others, as Vaj does here with Sal, and expand on them, as Vaj does below. They are especially good at snipping inconvenient context, as Sal did with Curtis's post when she carefully deleted what he had said to me just before what she quotes: You have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our POVs here. Note in Vaj's compendium of lies below, he uses the tactic I just mentioned, the vague, nonspecific charge with no documentation: Yes, you're right, these have been common tactics in the past--all part and parcel of her overall dishonest approach. Another fave, and if I'm grokking tidbits in others clippings correctly, is when nailed on something or particularly when some TM dogmatic point she's VERY attached to is rent asunder, rather than addressing the actual intellectual or factual elements of the argument, she'll switch to some unrelated element in the person: they don't understand stand TM (as when they no longer use TM speak), their counseling practice, faulty TM practice, etc. Vaj is well aware that this isn't true. The *fact* is that while I do make some personal comments, I don't make them *instead* of legitimate challenges (as Curtis observed). Vaj thinks it's to his advantage to focus on the personal comments and pretend I substitute them for substantive ones. Goodness knows he's been on the receiving end of many, many substantive challenges from me. Typically he can't respond to them, of course. The varieties seem endless, but the pattern is observable and repeated. It's interesting the person who seems so fond of telling people they are guilty of non sequiturs is actually the one who tries to craftily use them herself. Apparently misdirection must be the only way she can respond when arguments stray outside of TB/SCI/TM milieu. More of the same. Just flatly untrue. Again, Vaj's attempt at misdirection here is obvious. It's the hypocrisy, stupid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: snip In Judy's case, yes. That's apparently the only way she wants to deal with legitimate objections-- villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation and fake concern instead of responding rationally. And then she accuses others of being distraught. Which is why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies. One more example of the hypocrisy of Sal's statement: She accuses me of mind-reading while happily doing it herself. And of course she'd never accuse *Barry* of mind-reading when he's attacking me. Just the latest of innumerable examples: Judy and those who believe as she does are the 'elite.' They were 'evolved' enough to appreciate the great gifts that Maharishi sold them and 'capable' of 'having good results.' Ruth, ignoramus and 'incapable' as she is, was not. THAT is the message that Judy is trying to convey. Curtis is being easy on the bitch. I have no such reservations. Judy's ENTIRE position is that anyone who does not agree with her as to 1) what Maharishi 'really meant' when he said things, 2) what his 'message' really was, 3) what the 'benefit' of that message was, and 4) pretty much anything else she has an opinion on is a LOSER. They are somehow LESS than she is, 'incapable' of seeing how profound the things she believes are pro- found 'really' are. The difference, incidentally, between my mind- reading and Barry's is that mine is done in accord with what people actually *say*, whereas Barry simply makes up stuff that he likes the sound of. None of his readings above have anything to do with what I've said and are very largely, in fact, *contrary* to what I've said.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote: Is that true? They should still sell ice cream though cause it was the cheapest. Yum. Woolworth and W.T. Grant. Use to love to take the bus with Mom from our country home into the county seat to shop. Mom used excellent ingredients but except for certain ethnic dishes she seemed to cook from the POW cookbook. So a burger, fries and a Coke from Woolworth's or W.T. Grant was a real treat. Then there was a place known as the Crystal which served Coney Island hot dogs. Yum. I'm being taken out to lunch today so I picked http://www.fondasanmiguel.com/ . I've never had $20 mole before. I hope they have bars on the windows so it's authentic Mexican food. I can't wait.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Question and answers by Benjamin Creme Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. In 1982 Creme placed advertisements in newspapers around the world saying, 'The Christ is now here.' Creme was correct, Maitreya arrived in London in 1977. According to Creme the 'Christ,' whom he also called 'Maitreya,' would announce his existence on world wide television broadcasts, and that he would do that within several months of the initial newspaper advertisement. This created a sensation within some New Age groups, and even among some Evangelical Christians; but, when the promised television broadcasts of the Maitreya/ Christ failed to occur, most of Creme's followers lost interest. 1982 for sure not, I joined Purusha that year and would have known about this happening. I believe it was 1985 or 1986. Anyway it was a very interesting occourance, because who did the first world-wide broadcast via sattelite in July 1985, when, according to Benjamin Creme the Crist Himself was to be broadcasted to the world ? Of course; Maharishi did it; His first Global Conference via satelite. When this happened, and Benjamin Creme was 100% wrong about the timing of his information, it was when I first discovered the junctionpoints of Maharishi and Maitreya. Maharishi inaugurated the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment in 1975, 2 years later Maitreya appeared in London. This explains a lot about the relationship of Maitreya and Maharishi. The appearance of this great Yogi in the West since 1958 was absolutely necessary for Maitreya to be able to, or even wanting to, create a Mahavirupta body and settle in London. Without Maharishi no Maitreya. But Nabby hangs in there. Yes indeed :-) This may help to explain his stance with regard to Maharishi's heaven on earth as well. :-) You are right. Maharishi created the cirumstances in which Heaven on Earth was possible to manifest in this age. The historical connotations are numerous. John the Baptist comes to mind, one of several. It may also offer some comfort to those of us whom Nabby has said are going straight to Hell I never said that. I'm afraid your lying-genes are playing a trick on your slow mind once again. See below. , do not pass Go, do not collect $200. Creme has been saying that Maitreya was going to appear any day now since 1972, and he hasn't shown yet. Yes He has. Maitreya is much closer to us now than you can imagine. Many are seeing Him every day. On the 28'th of April 2009 Venus will no longer be seen from Earth. But the Star will still be seen continously, day and night even after this date. Be prepared for this grand event. So, based on that accuracy of prediction record, those of us whom Nabby has con- demned to Hell for our evil ways I never condemn anyone. I simply suggest that intense Tamas is a clear alternative when dropping the body for the haters of Knowledge. Nature has Her ways, and you are a fool to pretend you do not know this. Heaven will walk on Earth in this generation - Maharishi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
Nelson wrote: Do you think the wingnuts will reach critical mass like they did in the seventeen hundreds or, with their late start, will it be too late? Thomas Jefferson said we should probably have a revolutions every so once in a while to reboot the country. We are in serious need of rebooting or wiping the hard drive clean and starting over again. Maybe installing a different OS this time. Something a little more up to date. Of course that would disturb the sheep's grazing patterns and we can't have that. The sheep are afraid they'll lose their jobs if they take to the streets. We need to tell them they'll lose their jobs if they don't (and that is actually happening).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya
Nab, Just to nail this down, are you saying that after Venus goes behind the Sun that THEN the whole world -- anyone on Earth with eyes -- will be able to see this star in the daytime? Or, are you saying, as I strongly suspect is the case, that only the spiritually privileged -- The Creme of the crop so to speak -- will be able to see this star? Will someone who can see the star be able to grab anyone and say, See, there it is! and the other person will see it too? If everyone cannot see the star, then that would mean to me that only those able to hallucinate will become TBs for this Creme stuff. And how in the hell did you wrap your mind around doing Creme when your Purusha program strictly naysays such beliefs and would have kicked you off the program if they knew you were giving your loyalty to Creme instead of 100% to Maharishi? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Question and answers by Benjamin Creme Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. In 1982 Creme placed advertisements in newspapers around the world saying, 'The Christ is now here.' Creme was correct, Maitreya arrived in London in 1977. According to Creme the 'Christ,' whom he also called 'Maitreya,' would announce his existence on world wide television broadcasts, and that he would do that within several months of the initial newspaper advertisement. This created a sensation within some New Age groups, and even among some Evangelical Christians; but, when the promised television broadcasts of the Maitreya/ Christ failed to occur, most of Creme's followers lost interest. 1982 for sure not, I joined Purusha that year and would have known about this happening. I believe it was 1985 or 1986. Anyway it was a very interesting occourance, because who did the first world-wide broadcast via sattelite in July 1985, when, according to Benjamin Creme the Crist Himself was to be broadcasted to the world ? Of course; Maharishi did it; His first Global Conference via satelite. When this happened, and Benjamin Creme was 100% wrong about the timing of his information, it was when I first discovered the junctionpoints of Maharishi and Maitreya. Maharishi inaugurated the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment in 1975, 2 years later Maitreya appeared in London. This explains a lot about the relationship of Maitreya and Maharishi. The appearance of this great Yogi in the West since 1958 was absolutely necessary for Maitreya to be able to, or even wanting to, create a Mahavirupta body and settle in London. Without Maharishi no Maitreya. But Nabby hangs in there. Yes indeed :-) This may help to explain his stance with regard to Maharishi's heaven on earth as well. :-) You are right. Maharishi created the cirumstances in which Heaven on Earth was possible to manifest in this age. The historical connotations are numerous. John the Baptist comes to mind, one of several. It may also offer some comfort to those of us whom Nabby has said are going straight to Hell I never said that. I'm afraid your lying-genes are playing a trick on your slow mind once again. See below. , do not pass Go, do not collect $200. Creme has been saying that Maitreya was going to appear any day now since 1972, and he hasn't shown yet. Yes He has. Maitreya is much closer to us now than you can imagine. Many are seeing Him every day. On the 28'th of April 2009 Venus will no longer be seen from Earth. But the Star will still be seen continously, day and night even after this date. Be prepared for this grand event. So, based on that accuracy of prediction record, those of us whom Nabby has con- demned to Hell for our evil ways I never condemn anyone. I simply suggest that intense Tamas is a clear alternative when dropping the body for the haters of Knowledge. Nature has Her ways, and you are a fool to pretend you do not know this. Heaven will walk on Earth in this generation - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
Just for fun, I'm going to fisk this post of Barry's. I'm going to start with something from the end of his post, because it's so hilarious: Believe something other than what Judy believes, and there is something WRONG with you. Here's a question to ponder: If I thought there was something WRONG with Ruth because she believes something other than what I believe, would I recommend that in order to fix it, she seek counseling from *JOHN KNAPP*?? Barry gets so totally caught up in his elaborate fantasies that he's incapable of taking a step back to determine whether what he's saying makes the tiniest bit of sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Judy's ENTIRE position can be summed up in her own words below: Trusting your experience is fine. Having an aha moment in which you know you don't believe is fine. What's *not* fine, IMHO, is including in that aha moment of knowledge about your own lack of belief the knowledge that other people are feeding off of each other's hysteria. That's just a way to make yourself feel better about your inability to have good results. There is a phrase to describe this position. It is called Blame the victim. As the rest of my post made clear (which Barry carefully did not quote because it made nonsense of his accusations), what I was blaming Ruth for is taking the position (which in any other context Barry would find an outrage) that if *she* wasn't having experiences, it must mean that others weren't either and were just feeding off of each other's hysteria. (That's a direct quote from Ruth's post, BTW.) I explicitly said in the rest of my post that we *don't know* why some people have good results from TM and some don't. But here's Barry, making stuff up out of whole cloth: Ruth's problem -- her failure -- is that she was incapable of having good results. I did not say that her *inability* to have good results was either a problem or a failure. Barry made that up. Whereas Judy was. And as all of the TBs she so egomaniacally seeks to represent supposedly were capable of having. I don't seek to represent anybody. And I'm speaking of only those who have *reported* having good results. The issue here is ELITISM, pure and simple. Judy and those who believe as she does are the elite. They were evolved enough to appreciate the great gifts that Maharishi sold them and capable of having good results. Ruth, ignoramus and incapable as she is, was not. Made up out of whole cloth. Again, as I said, we *don't know* why some have good results and others don't. (But I always get a chuckle when Barry rants about elitism, given that his positions here are by far the most elitist of anyone on FFL.) THAT is the message that Judy is trying to convey. Curtis is being easy on the bitch. I have no such reservations. Judy's ENTIRE position is that anyone who does not agree with her as to 1) what Maharishi really meant when he said things, 2) what his message really was, 3) what the benefit of that message was, and 4) pretty much anything else she has an opinion on is a LOSER. They are somehow LESS than she is, incapable of seeing how profound the things she believes are pro- found really are. Made up out of whole cloth. I have never, *ever* taken this position, nor do I believe it. Curtis is being *kind* to Judy here, treating her as if there is still a human being in there somewhere that could possibly respond to being treated like one. I see no such human being. I see only an automaton, one who repeats ( almost verbatim, like the uncreative parrot she is ) The Things She's Been Told Are Truth. Also made up out of whole cloth. I do sometimes use TM-speak when it seems to me to clearly express what I want to get across, but much more often I use my own words. Barry knows this. He also knows I have no inhibitions about disagreeing with Things I've Been Told Are Truth. In Judy's defense, I think she really DOES believe that these things ARE Truth. But that's because she tends to settle for the first ( in her mind ) reasonable explanation given to her. A wonderful example of Barry's incompetent mind- reading. It took a long time for me to get comfortable with MMY's explanations, and that only after considerable experience of TM, a lot of outside reading, and much intellectual reflection. I thought it was all total nonsense at first. The next step, unfortunately, is to attempt to put down anyone who DIDN'T settle for the first explanation given to them as somehow defective, As noted, this is false. I did not settle for the first explanation given to me. Nor do I attempt to put anybody down as defective. Just made up out of whole cloth. incapable of understanding the Great Truths that Judy has understood ( because she can parrot them verbatim ). Barry knows I *don't* usually parrot things verbatim. Ruth took all the same courses Judy did. Given her
[FairfieldLife] Photos and another review from benefit
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940006.html?categoryid=34 Change Begins Within Photos: http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/ny-concert-photos,0,5874579.phot ogallery http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/ny-concert-photos,0,5874579.photo gallery
[FairfieldLife] was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself: http://tiny.cc/AAMZe ...and Reuter's - McCartney and Starr reunite in NYC for meditation http://tiny.cc/SDn9Z Thanks to 'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night, via the NY Times - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU
[FairfieldLife] The restoration of thew world
The Master's article for Share International magazine, April 2009 The restoration of the world by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 16 March 2009 From almost every point of view the situation facing men everywhere grows daily more painful. The economic chaos resulting from years of unlicensed greed and heartless competition lays waste the honest toil and aspiration of countless millions. On the whole, the men of money go blithely on, their treasure intact, while men and women in every country face joblessness, poverty and fear. More accurate readings of climatic changes show men how close this planet is to irreversible calamity, and alarm bells sound loudly on many political fronts, raising to new levels the factor of stress. How much more of this tension can humanity bear? For how long will men accept, mildly, their fate? Desperate men do desperate deeds and already in their minds, if not yet in their actions, many contemplate revolution. Happenings Behind the scenes, Maitreya watches carefully these happenings, and gives succour wherever the Law allows. He waits, patiently, for the build-up of response to the sign of His Emergence, the star-like luminary of brilliant power on which many now gaze in wonder and even love. What is desired is some measure of public debate about the significance or meaning of the Star, thus signifying the emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher. The greater and more public the discussion, the greater does it prepare the way for Maitreya's entry. Soon there will be no gainsaying. Very soon, Venus will move beyond the sight of men and so leave the platform of the heavens open to the Star. Then there will be no doubt that the Star is there for all to see. If sufficient discussion can be fostered on the various media and internet it will not be long until men see and hear Maitreya speak. He will not be so called, that men can judge His ideas rather than His status. Crisis As the economic crisis deepens, a singular reaction is appearing in many countries: alongside the fear, bravado and growing despair is a new understanding of the reasons for the crash -- the greed and competitive spirit at the centre of our systems and, therefore, the need for sharing. Of themselves, many are awakening to this basic truth and see sharing as the answer to injustice and war. Thus are many ready for Maitreya's Call. This realization will grow as the crisis bites deeper and deeper into the shaky fabric of the outworn forms and structures that no longer work, can never be made to work for long. When Maitreya speaks, He will show that this is so, that the world is ready for the adoption of new and better forms, based on the true needs of the peoples everywhere. His is the task to focus and strengthen this growing realization of the oneness and unity of men, of their mutual dependence and awakening divinity. Thus will Maitreya and humanity work together for the restoration of this world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: snip Thanks to 'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night, via the NY Times - Oh, man, super, thank you! I found one more, Paul singing Baby You Can Drive My Car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UduqOkbVB8g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU
[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert : http://tiny.cc/LNCXC and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself: http://tiny.cc/AAMZe ...and Reuter's - McCartney and Starr reunite in NYC for meditation http://tiny.cc/SDn9Z Thanks to 'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night, via the NY Times - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU Wonderful ! That Paul chose to sing those songs from HELP was very interesting. Thank you for posting this !
[FairfieldLife] Re: The restoration of thew world
Bananas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: The Master's article for Share International magazine, April 2009 The restoration of the world by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 16 March 2009 From almost every point of view the situation facing men everywhere grows daily more painful. The economic chaos resulting from years of unlicensed greed and heartless competition lays waste the honest toil and aspiration of countless millions. On the whole, the men of money go blithely on, their treasure intact, while men and women in every country face joblessness, poverty and fear. More accurate readings of climatic changes show men how close this planet is to irreversible calamity, and alarm bells sound loudly on many political fronts, raising to new levels the factor of stress. How much more of this tension can humanity bear? For how long will men accept, mildly, their fate? Desperate men do desperate deeds and already in their minds, if not yet in their actions, many contemplate revolution. Happenings Behind the scenes, Maitreya watches carefully these happenings, and gives succour wherever the Law allows. He waits, patiently, for the build-up of response to the sign of His Emergence, the star-like luminary of brilliant power on which many now gaze in wonder and even love. What is desired is some measure of public debate about the significance or meaning of the Star, thus signifying the emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher. The greater and more public the discussion, the greater does it prepare the way for Maitreya's entry. Soon there will be no gainsaying. Very soon, Venus will move beyond the sight of men and so leave the platform of the heavens open to the Star. Then there will be no doubt that the Star is there for all to see. If sufficient discussion can be fostered on the various media and internet it will not be long until men see and hear Maitreya speak. He will not be so called, that men can judge His ideas rather than His status. Crisis As the economic crisis deepens, a singular reaction is appearing in many countries: alongside the fear, bravado and growing despair is a new understanding of the reasons for the crash -- the greed and competitive spirit at the centre of our systems and, therefore, the need for sharing. Of themselves, many are awakening to this basic truth and see sharing as the answer to injustice and war. Thus are many ready for Maitreya's Call. This realization will grow as the crisis bites deeper and deeper into the shaky fabric of the outworn forms and structures that no longer work, can never be made to work for long. When Maitreya speaks, He will show that this is so, that the world is ready for the adoption of new and better forms, based on the true needs of the peoples everywhere. His is the task to focus and strengthen this growing realization of the oneness and unity of men, of their mutual dependence and awakening divinity. Thus will Maitreya and humanity work together for the restoration of this world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: snip Thanks to 'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night, via the NY Times - Oh, man, super, thank you! I found one more, Paul singing Baby You Can Drive My Car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UduqOkbVB8g The filming is by mobile-phone and rather deranged, but the sound is surprisingly good ! Like Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney is getting better and better the older he becomes. Wonderful clip ! Thank you for posting this ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU
[FairfieldLife] Re: The restoration of thew world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Bananas. Like the americans say; whatever floats your boat It's nevertheless a reality based on the neverending work of Maharishi. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The Master's article for Share International magazine, April 2009 The restoration of the world by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 16 March 2009 From almost every point of view the situation facing men everywhere grows daily more painful. The economic chaos resulting from years of unlicensed greed and heartless competition lays waste the honest toil and aspiration of countless millions. On the whole, the men of money go blithely on, their treasure intact, while men and women in every country face joblessness, poverty and fear. More accurate readings of climatic changes show men how close this planet is to irreversible calamity, and alarm bells sound loudly on many political fronts, raising to new levels the factor of stress. How much more of this tension can humanity bear? For how long will men accept, mildly, their fate? Desperate men do desperate deeds and already in their minds, if not yet in their actions, many contemplate revolution. Happenings Behind the scenes, Maitreya watches carefully these happenings, and gives succour wherever the Law allows. He waits, patiently, for the build-up of response to the sign of His Emergence, the star-like luminary of brilliant power on which many now gaze in wonder and even love. What is desired is some measure of public debate about the significance or meaning of the Star, thus signifying the emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher. The greater and more public the discussion, the greater does it prepare the way for Maitreya's entry. Soon there will be no gainsaying. Very soon, Venus will move beyond the sight of men and so leave the platform of the heavens open to the Star. Then there will be no doubt that the Star is there for all to see. If sufficient discussion can be fostered on the various media and internet it will not be long until men see and hear Maitreya speak. He will not be so called, that men can judge His ideas rather than His status. Crisis As the economic crisis deepens, a singular reaction is appearing in many countries: alongside the fear, bravado and growing despair is a new understanding of the reasons for the crash -- the greed and competitive spirit at the centre of our systems and, therefore, the need for sharing. Of themselves, many are awakening to this basic truth and see sharing as the answer to injustice and war. Thus are many ready for Maitreya's Call. This realization will grow as the crisis bites deeper and deeper into the shaky fabric of the outworn forms and structures that no longer work, can never be made to work for long. When Maitreya speaks, He will show that this is so, that the world is ready for the adoption of new and better forms, based on the true needs of the peoples everywhere. His is the task to focus and strengthen this growing realization of the oneness and unity of men, of their mutual dependence and awakening divinity. Thus will Maitreya and humanity work together for the restoration of this world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Actually, if it summed up my ENTIRE position, I wouldn't have gone on to write what Barry carefully snipped (because if he hadn't snipped it, what he went on to say wouldn't have made any sense). Here's the rest of what I said: - We don't know why some people get results and some don't. But that some people don't get results does *not* automatically mean that all the others aren't really getting results either. Sometimes life just ain't fair. Sometimes it's really, really complicated and ambiguous and contradictory, and we can't sort it out into neat little piles. Sometimes it's more like quantum mechanics than Newtonian mechanics. (That's an *analogy*, not an equivalence.) And we're stuck with it. Unlike you, BTW, I grew up without faith. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have faith, but it doesn't seem to be anything I'm able to cultivate. So I go by my own experience and by what makes sense to my intellect. Despite my lack of experience of faith, though, I don't look at those who do have it and assume they're just hysterical. Rather, I assume they are capable of having an experience for which, for whatever reason, I'm not wired. There are enough other things in my life that give me satisfaction that I don't miss it. Judy, When I read your post to Ruth I immediately recognized your intention to reach out to her out as one human being to another in the spirit of compassion. You even shared something personal about yourself, about not being wired to have faith and having made peace with your inability to cultivate it. It's amazing how tone deaf Curtis, Barry and Sal were to the genuine concern you had for Ruth. Their collective knee-jerk response was unwarranted. One would hope they know it is possible to disagree with someone, like them and still have empathy for them. I had a similar experience with Ruth. She expressed her hurt and anger about TM and the difficulty she has with friends and family because of TM. I responded with empathy. I believe it's natural for human beings, unless they are busy fighting by their own demons, to respond to someone's pain with empathy. Everyone has emotional trials to work through and ultimately, we're all in it together. This was my interaction with Ruth a few months ago. Message #203622 Re: Hey, Rick, you might not like this post --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: Yes! That is what I have said from day one. TM has nothing to do with love and kindness. And apparently even perverts can be enlightened. I harbor resentment to the TMO. Family and friends who became part of the cult treat me like shit and they don't even know that they do. And I walk on eggshells. Ruth, I don't judge anyone for stopping TM. It's a personal decision. TM works for me may not mean anything to you and you can challenge me intellectually about it all you want. Regardless, I will continue to like you because I respect your honesty. I don't agree that TM has nothing to do with love and kindness. I know many loving people who practice TM. I have no idea if they were that way before they started TM and I don't think it matters. Sorry about the eggshells. Thanks Raunchy. I appreciate that you can say TM working for you might not mean anything to me. The eggshells are more like broken glass. Wax Wings and Eggshells Tightrope taut Toe trip slight Falter not Fear take flight Icaris tested Blistering sun Wax wings bested By too much fun Falling to sea Shattered by love Fearless was he White wingèd dove Freedom bound Storm about Courage sound Without a doubt Fair-weather friends Eggshells hollow Worship ends And dreams lay fallow Harvest now Unsung deeds Unearthed by plow And God's kind seeds raunchydog
Re: [FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya
Oh, please!! Its been imminent for the past 26 years! Mr. Creme needs a new timepiece. --- On Sun, 4/5/09, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 1:57 PM Question and answers by Benjamin Creme Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. Q. Will most people feel their own soul on Declaration Day when Maitreya is speaking? A. Most people will experience their own souls, even if it is the first time in their lives. It will be an extraordinary experience for humanity. They will feel like a child; pure, listening from the heart to these wonderful words and experiencing a quality of life that they have forgotten – that goes way back to their childhood when they were simple, trusting, full of love and happiness. Q. (1) It was stated in Share International News Release No.88 that in the very near future a large, bright star, a star-like luminary of brilliant power, will appear in the sky visible throughout the world, night and day. Around a week later Maitreya will give his first interview on major US television. I find this statement somewhat puzzling because the star has now been appearing around the world for over two months. (1) Does this mean that Maitreya already gave his first interview around a week after the star first began appearing around the world? (2) Or does it mean Maitreya will give his first interview around a week after the appearances of the star have reached their peak and been seen by enough people? A. (1) No. (2) Yes, precisely. It would be of little use to mount this huge project (which it is) if humanity had no time to evaluate and respond. Q. Will sightings of the star eventually become numerous enough that it becomes a top headline in the news worldwide and publicly investigated by scientists? A. I do not know what level of response is required but it is obvious that some public recognition is essential. Q. First off, I have to say thank you for making this information available. I'm truly grateful. I'm writing because I think that I saw the miracle star your Master has described. It was Saturday night and I was working late. The location was Toluca Lake, California, USA. After I left the office to go to my car I saw a star that was brighter than any other that I've seen. It had an orb shape around it. While I was driving home on the freeway I was following it with my eyes. It seemed to change its position. Sometimes it was to the left of me and sometimes it was to the right. Maybe this is because the freeway changed position; I don't know. It did seem to shift to rather dramatic variables in distance. It seemed to vanish as soon as I got off the freeway near my neighborhood. My father thought that it might be Venus. It was exceptionally bright. Whatever the case may be, that was the brightest heavenly body I've noticed to date. A. My Master has confirmed that it was indeed the Star that you followed along the freeway. It does move about which, of course, Venus does not except slowly along its own trajectory. Venus is very bright and is often confused for the Star but Venus is becoming lower and lower on the horizon and, by 28 March or so, will no longer be visible to us. The Star is even brighter than Venus, and changes position and colour. Q. In late February 2009, I was in a city in the Brazilian state of Minas Gerais. There, I saw a really bright star in the sky. It was bigger than the other stars. It was a little similar to Venus, but the colour was completely different. Venus normally is blue and the star was yellow or golden. Was that the star of Maitreya? A. Yes, it was the Star. Q. A thought about the appearance of the star occurred to me: the first news release regarding the star starts: Look now for the biggest miracle of all It sounds to me that we are told to regularly look for it, of course on evenings when there are few clouds in the west (in the case of New Zealand), and by looking for it we are inviting its appearance. And the more who look the stronger the invitation. Would this be correct? A. No, it is not really like that. The Star exists whether we look for it or not but if people do not look for it they will not necessarily see it and report it. It is necessary that it receives open public attention as a miracle – a sign of Maitreya's appearance on US television. If it does not receive public attention of a certain amount it will not have served its purpose. Q. On the evening of 3 March 2009, for at least 30 minutes before the clouds came, I saw a bright star-like object on the western sky in Belgium. Could this have been the star? A. Yes, it was the Star. http://shareintl.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Nab, Just to nail this down, are you saying that after Venus goes behind the Sun that THEN the whole world -- anyone on Earth with eyes -- will be able to see this star in the daytime? Yes. Or, are you saying, as I strongly suspect is the case, that only the spiritually privileged -- The Creme of the crop so to speak -- will be able to see this star? No, everyone, absolutely everyone, will see the star. Already the astro-physics community are on their tip-toes as they have witnessed this miracle for several months already. But noone wants to be the first to break this news, probably out of fear. Will someone who can see the star be able to grab anyone and say, See, there it is! and the other person will see it too? Yes, certainly. If everyone cannot see the star, then that would mean to me that only those able to hallucinate will become TBs for this Creme stuff. This is not Creme stuff. This is the fruitation of many thousands of years of grooming the world consciousness into being able to enjoy this golden age of Enlightenment. Maharishi, Guru Dev and countless other Masters, along with the growth of consciousness of the world population, maid this happen. Because Maharishi did what He did for this generation, Maitreya is able to step forward. The Star is simply a sign that Maitreya is here, now. And how in the hell did you wrap your mind around doing Creme when your Purusha program strictly naysays such beliefs and would have kicked you off the program if they knew you were giving your loyalty to Creme instead of 100% to Maharishi? You do not really know the Movement outside of the US very well do you ? There are no contradictions between Theosophy, Mr. Creme and Maharishi whatsoever. When I first arrived in Vlodrop one Dutch fellow had put two pages of Share International News on the message board. When I asked him what this was all about he said; It's what Maharishi already said. Noone minded and the SI article stayed on that board for several weeks. Sweet fellow by the way, he is a painter with an interest in flowers enjoying a huge success in Holland these days.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam
I have it on good source that Sal is really a college guy posing as a bitter woman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that she isn't up to it. If I were her, I wouldn't be accusing others of lacking honor and being manipulators and phonies. Sal is a bitter old fool angrily trying to bash everything related to the TMO because she intuitively understands that she made her life mistake stopping TM. What did you expect, anything honorable from from such a deprived and angry soul ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights
A whole slew of articles and youtube videos on about 10 pages: http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatles-Examiner~y2009m4d3-Paul-Ringo-Donovan-and-Mike-Love-promote-TM-at-press-conference http://tinyurl.com/dlwcy2
[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Oh, please!! Its been imminent for the past 26 years! Mr. Creme needs a new timepiece. And you my friend needs a checking. http://shareintl.org