date:20100327

My bad.  I thought I was responding to Dix, but it was Billy b Good instead.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"  
wrote:
>
> 
> And this all happened since Obama took office.? Up until then, it was
> all hunky dory.? This war in Iraq, not adding to the deficit?  This war
> in Iraq - care to discuss our ROI?  Tell me Dix, what has been our  ROI
> on that.  At least Shemp, for all  his conservative leanings, recognizes
> that the fiscal irresponsibility is on both sides of the isle.  But you
> seem not to even concede that.  You also don't seem to willing to
> address other points brought up.  But that seems to be the case often
> with you, I have observed.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > No..it will be, the economy stinks, there are no jobs, Obama and Gore
> are worried about Global Warming and in the mean time the ship of state
> is sinking. SS BROKE, Medicare BROKE, sustained promises by government
> in the form of Union pensions foreordain the collapse of the entire
> system before Obama leaves office..too much *GREECE* my friends. WE
> need REAL change NOW!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> steve.sundur@ wrote:
> > >
> > > The Dems will pick up seats, instead of lose them. Bring it On.
> > >
> > > What is the battle cry for the Repulicans going to be: "HE GAVE
> HEALTH CARE TO CHILDREN. HE TOLD INSURANCE COMPANIES THEY COULDN'T DENY
> COVERAGE FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. THIS IS NOT AMERICA, THIS IS
> SOCIALISM. THESE MEASURES MUST BE REPEALED"
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction
> plan in
> > > > > history
> > > > >
> > > > > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes
> on 15
> > > > > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90
> percent of
> > > > > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > > > > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > > > >
> > > > > From Wikipedia:
> > > > >
> > > > > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by
> the
> > > > > 103rd United States Congress
> > > > >  and
> signed
> > > > > into law by President
> > > > > 
> Bill
> > > > > Clinton  . It has
> also been
> > > > > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII,
> which dealt
> > > > > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of
> 1993.
> > > > >
> > > > > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > > > >
> > > > > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the
> bill,* as did
> > > > > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> > > > >
>  Al
> > > > > Gore  broke a tie in the
> Senate
> > > > >  on both the
> Senate
> > > > > bill and the conference report
> > > > >
>  \
> > > > > e#The_conference_report> .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> > > > >  The House passed
> the
> > > > > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218
> to 216
> > > > > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> > > > >  (VT-I)) voting in
> favor;
> > > > > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > > > >
> > > > > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August
> 6,
> > > > > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President
> Gore
> > > > > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against).
> President
> > > > > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> \
> > > > > egislative_history
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Results:]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to
> average
> > > > > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy
> grew for
> > > > > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever
> created
> > > > > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > > > > previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92
> percent,
> > > > > were in the private sector.[37]
> > > > >
> > > > > * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> > > > > Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by
> $6,338,
> > > > > from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in

[FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY or we went wrong

2010-03-27 Thread yifuxero

depends on how one defines transcendence.  In some Buddhist traditions, as well 
as Neo-Advaitic, variations of transcendence aren't recognized.  Ramana 
Maharshi never addressed such partial Awakenings: Self-Realization to Him 
wasn't even an "all or nothing" situation: just the "All" - even for supposedly 
ignorant people.
But Vaj, you're using rules from the "All" traditions to judge a clearly 
progressive variant of Advaita: (MMY's innovative, progressive program in which 
"transcendence" has been qualified to have a number of levels, or progressions 
leading to Unity".
...
Vaj, your illogic uses a set of rules from Buddhism to judge a different setup 
in which "transcendence" is further defined and explained by MMY, NOT your Guru.
Therefore, MMY is correct.---
 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:02 PM, tartbrain wrote:
> 
> > He never said, "skip GC, its a waste of time, seeing, knowing, obtaining 
> > union with the Divine is a waste of time." He said advanced techniques 
> > slowed down transcending so that the subtle fields could be enlivened. He 
> > never said "skip these advanced techniques just transcend as fast as you 
> > can." 
> > 
> > He emphasized that activity (strong, dynamic) was as critical as 
> > transcending. He never said, skip activity, just sit in your room and 
> > transcend all day long -- forever. (TTC's had prolonged meds, but also, a 
> > fair amount of activity -- including "lower chakra release and cleansing" 
> > so I am told. )
> 
> 
> Of course, all of this only works if you accept that Maharishi was actually 
> giving transcendence via TM and that he was really giving an actual 
> experience of "pure" consciousness. A lot of us just accepted that 'oh well, 
> the giggly guy in the white silk said it, so it must be true.' Then we 
> associated that coached image with our thought-free and dissociative "bliss" 
> states. Wow, TM really works! Ta-da!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan


And this all happened since Obama took office.? Up until then, it was
all hunky dory.? This war in Iraq, not adding to the deficit?  This war
in Iraq - care to discuss our ROI?  Tell me Dix, what has been our  ROI
on that.  At least Shemp, for all  his conservative leanings, recognizes
that the fiscal irresponsibility is on both sides of the isle.  But you
seem not to even concede that.  You also don't seem to willing to
address other points brought up.  But that seems to be the case often
with you, I have observed.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG"  wrote:
>
>
> No..it will be, the economy stinks, there are no jobs, Obama and Gore
are worried about Global Warming and in the mean time the ship of state
is sinking. SS BROKE, Medicare BROKE, sustained promises by government
in the form of Union pensions foreordain the collapse of the entire
system before Obama leaves office..too much *GREECE* my friends. WE
need REAL change NOW!
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
steve.sundur@ wrote:
> >
> > The Dems will pick up seats, instead of lose them. Bring it On.
> >
> > What is the battle cry for the Repulicans going to be: "HE GAVE
HEALTH CARE TO CHILDREN. HE TOLD INSURANCE COMPANIES THEY COULDN'T DENY
COVERAGE FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. THIS IS NOT AMERICA, THIS IS
SOCIALISM. THESE MEASURES MUST BE REPEALED"
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction
plan in
> > > > history
> > > >
> > > > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes
on 15
> > > > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90
percent of
> > > > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > > > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > > >
> > > > From Wikipedia:
> > > >
> > > > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by
the
> > > > 103rd United States Congress
> > > >  and
signed
> > > > into law by President
> > > > 
Bill
> > > > Clinton  . It has
also been
> > > > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII,
which dealt
> > > > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of
1993.
> > > >
> > > > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > > >
> > > > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the
bill,* as did
> > > > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> > > >
 Al
> > > > Gore  broke a tie in the
Senate
> > > >  on both the
Senate
> > > > bill and the conference report
> > > >
 > > > e#The_conference_report> .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> > > >  The House passed
the
> > > > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218
to 216
> > > > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> > > >  (VT-I)) voting in
favor;
> > > > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > > >
> > > > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August
6,
> > > > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President
Gore
> > > > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against).
President
> > > > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > > >
> > > >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
\
> > > > egislative_history
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Results:]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > > >
> > > > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to
average
> > > > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy
grew for
> > > > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever
created
> > > > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > > > previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92
percent,
> > > > were in the private sector.[37]
> > > >
> > > > * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> > > > Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by
$6,338,
> > > > from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]
> > > >
> > > > * Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than
30
> > > > years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in
January
> > > > 2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40
consecutive
> > > > months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2
percent in
> > > > 1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record.
Unempl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Poor man thinks he's not going to get a free power chair
> now.The man has probably been paying his FICA taxes all
> along and thinks he's entitled to it.

He didn't realize Medicare was a government-run program.
He wasn't the only one to make that kind of comment.

> Â I'm so glad you've recognized there is riff raff in
> the polls, I just want to make sure they aren't voting
> multiple times under different names and from cemeteries
> out of their precincts.

Voter fraud is *very* rare, actually. And the Constitution
doesn't make any distinction between riff-raff and non-
riff-raff when it comes to voting.

> You're right, he joined the military BEFORE becoming a
> terrorist, never the less he was one, aÂ  soldier of
> Allah. It turns out he really was a misfitÂ  but nobody
> wanted to blow the whistle on him, it wouldn't have been
> PC. Whistle blowers probably feared being called racist,
> bigoted, homophobic, xenophobes and decided to keep
> their mouths shut in hopes of keeping their careers.

Probably. There are so many racist, bigoted, homophobic
xenophobes around these days that it's sometimes hard to
tell who is and who ain't.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY or we went wrong

On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:02 PM, tartbrain wrote:

> He never said, "skip GC, its a waste of time, seeing, knowing, obtaining 
> union with the Divine is a waste of time." He said advanced techniques slowed 
> down transcending so that the subtle fields could be enlivened. He never said 
> "skip these advanced techniques just transcend as fast as you can." 
> 
> He emphasized that activity (strong, dynamic) was as critical as 
> transcending. He never said, skip activity, just sit in your room and 
> transcend all day long -- forever. (TTC's had prolonged meds, but also, a 
> fair amount of activity -- including "lower chakra release and cleansing" so 
> I am told. )

Of course, all of this only works if you accept that Maharishi was actually 
giving transcendence via TM and that he was really giving an actual experience 
of "pure" consciousness. A lot of us just accepted that 'oh well, the giggly 
guy in the white silk said it, so it must be true.' Then we associated that 
coached image with our thought-free and dissociative "bliss" states. Wow, TM 
really works! Ta-da!

[FairfieldLife] New Stuff on Buddha at the Gas Pump

2010-03-27 Thread Rick Archer

Good News!
 
I have just uploaded one new video and all but one of the audio tracks of
the 16 interviews conducted so far. 
 
There are several ways to listen to the audios:
 
cid:image001.png@01CACAD4.835A9670
 
At http://batgap.com you'll see something similar to the above screen shot
at the bottom of the entry for each interview. You may:
. Click on the arrow or the Audio MP3 graphic to listen in your
browser.
. Click on "Play in Popup" to play the audio in a browser Popup
window.
. Click on "Download" to download the MP3 file to your computer so
you may listen to it on your MP3 player.
. Subscribe to our Podcast
  Channel, to listen in iTunes or on your iPod. If you just
transfer an MP3 file to your player it shows up in the "Music" category in
iTunes, and if you switch to something else in the middle of an interview,
or connect your iPod to your computer to recharge it or do a fresh sync, you
lose your place in the file. Podcasts are "smarter" in that they remember
where you left off. They also download new episodes and sync them with your
iPod automatically.
 
There are several ways to watch the new video, which is #6 in the series,
and the others to be uploaded soon:
 
. With higher resolution, but in 10-minute segments, on YouTube
 
. With lower resolution, but in their entirety, on our blog
 
. By buying DVDs. Contact me if that interests you.
 
After watching or listening to them, there are several ways to discuss them.

 
. On the blog  , you can address questions to
particular guests or make comments by leaving a reply on the page where that
guest's interview is posted (for instance  ).
. On our very active chat
  group,
where discussion may pertain to a particular interview, but is usually of a
more general nature.
. By leaving comments on the YouTube channel
 , although that format is
not well-suited to extended, interactive discussions.
. If you have suggestions or constructive criticism for me, or
questions you would like me to ask future guests, just email me
 .
 
There are several ways to be notified when new interviews are posted:
. Subscribe to the blog by clicking on
cid:image002.png@01CACCD4.27145F20 in the upper right hand corner of the
page. That will take you to a page where you can choose your blog reader.
Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express can serve this purpose.
. Just stay on this mailing list. If this email was forwarded to you
and you would like to subscribe to this list, send a blank email to
list-subscr...@batgap.com
. Subscribe to the YouTube channel
 . You'll get an email from
YouTube when I upload new videos there.
. Follow us on Twitter  , but if you're
like me, you miss a lot of "Tweets" from people you're following, and may
not notice when new videos are announced.
 
The newly-posted video is number 6 in the series. Numbers 7 and 8 will be
uploaded within a few days. I had intended to release them in the order they
were recorded, but as I mentioned in the last email, software and hardware
problems have delayed the post-production work of replacing the green screen
background with a more attractive one. These problems can and will be
solved. It's just a matter of having the right (expensive) software on the
right computer, and a limited budget has delayed accomplishing that. These
three were taped against a fabric backdrop. Hence, no green screen problem.
We will continue to tape new shows without the green screen, until this
problem has been solved.
 
After I sent out the last email, mentioning the green screen problem, my old
high school buddy Ralph   Preston volunteered
to take a crack at it. Ralph and I shared all sorts of wild adventures back
in the day, including getting arrested twice for marijuana possession. Two
years ago, Ralph had a stroke, and his determined efforts at recovery have
amazed his doctors and gladdened the hearts of his friends and loved ones.
His story is on his blog  , where he also
discusses a stroke recovery DVD he hopes to produce. Among others, Ram Dass
has agreed to be interviewed for it. The project is stalled for lack of
funding, so if you feel inclined to donate to it, please contact Ralph
 . (Ralph did not ask me to make this
request.)
 
I would also like to again thank Bryan Hawthorne of FPAC - the Fairfield
Public Access TV   Station - who has been
coming in evenings each

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: CSA 3/25

C'mon Dick, the CSA died in April 1865.

From: Dick Mays 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 5:48:31 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: CSA 3/25

I've been a member for a year, and I love it!

CSA Members.

Happy last box o' March, everyone! Hopefully you're all ready for more after 
last week's whopper.

Now, here's the deal. We need 350 members in the upcoming Spring / Summer CSA 
season. That's what we've planted for and that's what we're going to get. Where 
those members live however is becoming a bit of a question. I've been asked to 
promote our program further in the Des Moines area in order to reach our 
membership goal. I'm doing a little math in my head right now. What's the 
population of Fairfield again? 10,000, right? Tell a friend, folks. Personally, 
I prefer the tractor to the delivery truck.

My sincere apologies if this is beginning to get old. Of course none of you are 
obligated to go out and market for us. The way I see it however is like this. 
We live in a great community. A tightly knit community. And I'm gonna milk it 
for everything it's worth. Sure, we could go out and spend money on advertising 
but that just brings costs up.

At the beginning of this season we had 100 people sign up in 2 days. All thanks 
to some incredible networking by just a few of our members. If we buy radio 
spots in Des Moines, our shares are going to go fast. So, pretty please for the 
sake of your own dietary health and my road rage, visit www.mvccsa.com to 
enroll.

Here's this week's selection.

Broccoli
Green Chard
Spinach
Arugala
Cilantro
Beets
Lettuce
Red Cabbage

Enjoy! Tell a friend!

And by the way, I hope I've mentioned how grateful we are having you all in 
this program. It's 'cause of you guys WE eat. Not just the other way around. :) 
--
Ryan P. Terrien
Maharishi Vedic City Organics
(641) 919-7010

--

[FairfieldLife] U.S. National Debt TRIPLED under Reaganomics



Saint Ronnie's Trickle Down "VooDoo Economics"

"Reagan's tax policies were accused of pushing both the international 
transactions current account and the federal budget into deficit and led to a 
significant increase in public debt. 

Debt more than tripled from 900 billion dollars to 2.8 trillion dollars during 
Reagan's tenure."  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: CSA 3/25

2010-03-27 Thread Dick Mays


I've been a member for a year, and I love it!

CSA Members.

Happy last box o' March, everyone! Hopefully you're all ready for 
more after last week's whopper.


Now, here's the deal. We need 350 members in the upcoming Spring / 
Summer CSA season. That's what we've planted for and that's what 
we're going to get. Where those members live however is becoming a 
bit of a question. I've been asked to promote our program further in 
the Des Moines area in order to reach our membership goal. I'm doing 
a little math in my head right now. What's the population of 
Fairfield again? 10,000, right? Tell a friend, folks. Personally, I 
prefer the tractor to the delivery truck.


My sincere apologies if this is beginning to get old. Of course none 
of you are obligated to go out and market for us. The way I see it 
however is like this. We live in a great community. A tightly knit 
community. And I'm gonna milk it for everything it's worth. Sure, we 
could go out and spend money on advertising but that just brings 
costs up.


At the beginning of this season we had 100 people sign up in 2 days. 
All thanks to some incredible networking by just a few of our 
members. If we buy radio spots in Des Moines, our shares are going to 
go fast. So, pretty please for the sake of your own dietary health 
and my road rage, visit www.mvccsa.com to 
enroll.


Here's this week's selection.

Broccoli
Green Chard
Spinach
Arugala
Cilantro
Beets
Lettuce
Red Cabbage

Enjoy! Tell a friend!

And by the way, I hope I've mentioned how grateful we are having you 
all in this program. It's 'cause of you guys WE eat. Not just the 
other way around. :)

--
Ryan P. Terrien
Maharishi Vedic City Organics
(641) 919-7010





--

Re: [FairfieldLife] Justified -- the second chance

2010-03-27 Thread Bhairitu

TurquoiseB wrote:
> Back in Spain, I downloaded the pilot of "Justified" 
> when I got back, and just finished watching it. You
> were right...it needed time to appreciate it more fully.
> Now I like it. Thanks for the tip.

I've been spending the afternoon playing with my new Bluray player a 
Samsung BD-5500.  I think Rick also has one of these.  My old player was 
a first generation Sony and took about a minute to boot up.  This one 
takes no time and there is no waiting on those damn progress bars.  The 
great thing is how many formats it can play.  Next I need to figure out 
how to make it read something other than the "ordained" web sites.  
Comes with Netflix, Vudu (one free HD movie), Blockbuster (how ever long 
they're going to be around) and Pandora plus a bunch other sites like 
YouTube, Picasa, etc.  It also cost about half the price of my old 
player which I bought on sale back in December 2007.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan

No, he just  created another entitlement program when all the others are going 
bust and government revenues are down and will continue to be down as long as 
employers are affraid of what he'll do next.





From: lurkernomore20002000 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 4:05:06 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic 
Plan

  
The Dems will pick up seats, instead of lose them. Bring it On. 

What is the battle cry for the Repulicans going to be: "HE GAVE HEALTH CARE TO 
CHILDREN. HE TOLD INSURANCE COMPANIES THEY COULDN'T DENY COVERAGE FOR 
PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. THIS IS NOT AMERICA, THIS IS SOCIALISM. THESE MEASURES 
MUST BE REPEALED" 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> > history
> > 
> > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > 
> > From Wikipedia:
> > 
> > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> > 103rd United States Congress
> >  and signed
> > into law by President
> >  Bill
> > Clinton  . It has also been
> > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> > 
> > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > 
> > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> >  Al
> > Gore  broke a tie in the Senate
> >  on both the Senate
> > bill and the conference report
> >  
> > (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > 
> > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L
> > 
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

That's alright, there's always spelling!





From: mainstream20016 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 1:54:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

  
My apologies to Dix and his math - 10 generations in America since 1640 is 
accurate. I misquoted my family's generations in America since the 1630s as 30 
generations. The correct number is 13. I'm sorry for questioning your math, Dix.
-Mainstream 

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "mainstream20016"  wrote:
>
> Hey, Dix,
> Check your math regarding 10 generations of your family in America since 1640.
> About 30 generations of my family have been born in America, beginning in 
> 1637. 
> 
> By the way, in 2000 the U.S. was in great shape, until G.W. Bush and the far 
> right took total control of all aspects of our government. They ruined the 
> country. 
> 
> Barack Obama is extraordinary. This Patriot loves him. 
> 
> - Mainstream 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Steve, when Obama was elected, I thought it might take about four years to 
> > piss off enough people to at least take back the WH and at least one branch 
> > of congress. We may be ahead of schedule to take back one or possibly both 
> > branches this November. If we don't, two more years will just pound it into 
> > the minds of those that voted for Obama that "maybe we could have chosen a 
> > better candidate". It took four years of Jimmy Carter to  create the Reagan 
> > Revolution. South America? Why would I want to move there? My family has 
> > been here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown Virginia. Oh yeah, I've 
> > got lots of faith in the American people. When they screw up and see it, 
> > they are pretty good at fixing things. Voting, of course all law abiding 
> > citizens should vote, however I think there should a voter ID with photo to 
> > prove who you are when casting that vote and maybe even at least a high 
> > school diploma to show some understanding of our system of government
 and
> > economics, it's free. If you're not hearing about the war on terror 
> > everyday, it's not because we aren't at war, it's because your media 
> > choices don't talk about it as much so it will look like Obama has solved 
> > the problem. We're safe? Tell that to the 13 that died at Fort Hood at the 
> > hands of a terrorist who infiltrated the military or the two army 
> > recruiters shot by another terrorist in AK. or the people on the flight 
> > coming into Detroit that were nearly blown up, but no, I'm not upset, it's 
> > to be expected these days. I thought the war on terror* is* an 
> > international  issue. I  also thought Obama was going to get the rest of 
> > the world to take up their fair share of responsibility in that war. 
> > Remember that? What bothers me is that we've got a moron *focusing like a  
> > dim flash light*on domestic and international issues making things much 
> > worse in the short and long run. Now Steve,when Obama and his leftist 
> > government ARE thrown out, will you go
> > berserk? Can you go berserk if you already are? 
> > 
> > . 
> >  _ _ __
> > From: lurkernomore2000200 0 
> > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 5:29:27 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo
> > 
> >   
> > Come November you can vote the bums out of office Dix. What the HELL are 
> > you going to do if that doesn't happen. Maybe you should move to South 
> > America. Do you have faith in the American people, or only when they vote 
> > your way? Should the American people even have the right to vote? Maybe 
> > they can't be trusted with a ballot. Are you upset that the country has 
> > been safe, even though we don't hear about the "War on Terror" everyday. 
> > Does it bother you that we have a president who is focussing on domestic, 
> > and international issues, and not spending 80% of his time on the "War on 
> > Terror". And the fact that he lets the military prosecute our conflicts in 
> > the way they see best, and not having the president, vice president and 
> > secretary of defense trying to call all the shots. Or would it serve your 
> > purposes if the country was attacked. How bout it Dix? What's the scoop?. 
> > Which is better? And what's your take on the American people Dix? Is their 
> > judgment to
 be
> > trusted, or not. God, you better hope that in November they vote your way. 
> > You may just go beserk if they don't.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > >
> > > Bullshit  Bingo
> > > 
> > > 1. Before  Barrack Obama's next televised speech, prepare your "Bullshit 
> > > Bingo" card by drawing a square -- I find that 5" x 5" is a good size 
> > > --  and dividing it into columns -- five across and five down.  That will 
> > > give you 25  1-inch blocks.
> > > 
> > > 2. Write one of the following words/phrases in each

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

Poor man thinks he's not going to get a free power chair now.The man has 
probably been paying his FICA taxes all along and thinks he's entitled to it.
 I'm so glad you've recognized there is riff raff in the polls, I just want to 
make sure they aren't voting multiple times under different names and from 
cemeteries out of their precincts. You're right, he joined the military BEFORE 
becoming a terrorist, never the less he was one, a  soldier of Allah. It turns 
out he really was a misfit  but nobody wanted to blow the whistle on him, it 
wouldn't have been PC. Whistle blowers probably feared being called racist, 
bigoted, homophobic, xenophobes and decided to keep their mouths shut in hopes 
of keeping their careers.

From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 12:39:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:

> Voting, of course all law abiding citizens should vote,
> however I think there should a voter ID with photo to
> prove who you are when casting that vote and maybe even
> at least a high school diploma to show some understanding
> of our system of government and economics

You mean like, "Keep your government hands off my
Medicare"? You think that guy should be allowed to
vote?

Maybe we should reinstitute the poll tax too, ya
think? Keep the riff-raff out of the voting booths.

> it's free. If you're not hearing about the war on terror
> everyday, it's not because we aren't at war, it's because
> your media choices don't talk about it as much so it will
> look like Obama has solved the problem.

I don't think anybody thinks the problem has been
solved, least of all Obama.

> We're safe? Tell that to the 13 that died at Fort Hood at
> the hands of a terrorist who infiltrated the military

Just for the record, that isn't what he was. He'd been
*in* the military for some time before he started
having terrorist-type leanings.

[FairfieldLife] Justified -- the second chance

2010-03-27 Thread TurquoiseB

Back in Spain, I downloaded the pilot of "Justified" 
when I got back, and just finished watching it. You
were right...it needed time to appreciate it more fully.
Now I like it. Thanks for the tip.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Now that is funny! Ambrose Dixon was harrassed out of Virginia
> because he was a quaker also.

Oh, no kidding!

> Lord Baltimore invited him and several other unhappy Virginia 
> quakers to settle in Maryland, which he/they did.

I think that branch of my folks ended up in Pennsylvania.

My late mother was heavily into genealogy at one point,
did endless research. The other branches of the family
were German, French (Huguenots), and Scots-Irish. It's
all somewhere in my mother's papers, which, sadly,
probably nobody will ever look at again.

By the time genealogy sites hit the Web big-time, she 
had lost whatever energy it takes to get into new
things. If that had come along 10 years earlier, she'd
have had such a blast.

> 
> From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 12:25:14 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo
> 
> Â  
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > Mike Dixon wrote:
> > > S South America? Why would I want to move there? My family
> > > has been here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown
> > > Virginia.
> > 
> > LOL! My mother's ancestors arrived in Jamestown back then.
> > Welsh yuppies I think. Yours Welsh yuppies too?
> 
> Huh, my mother's too, English Quakers, around 16 years later,
> except they arrived in Boston (causing something of a ruckus
> and ultimately being expelled from the colony).
> 
> > My sister mused that she could be a DAR member when we
> > found that out.
> 
> I could be too!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan


No..it will be, the economy stinks, there are no jobs, Obama and Gore are 
worried about Global Warming and in the mean time the ship of state is sinking. 
 SS BROKE, Medicare BROKE, sustained promises by government in the form of 
Union pensions foreordain the collapse of the entire system before Obama leaves 
office..too much *GREECE* my friends. WE need REAL change NOW!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"  
wrote:
>
>   The Dems will pick up seats, instead of lose them.  Bring it On. 
> 
> What is the battle cry for the Repulicans going to be:  "HE GAVE HEALTH CARE 
> TO CHILDREN.  HE TOLD INSURANCE COMPANIES THEY COULDN'T DENY COVERAGE FOR 
> PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.  THIS IS NOT AMERICA, THIS IS SOCIALISM. THESE 
> MEASURES MUST BE REPEALED"  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> > > history
> > > 
> > > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> > > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> > > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > > 
> > > From Wikipedia:
> > > 
> > > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> > > 103rd United States Congress
> > >   and signed
> > > into law by President
> > >   Bill
> > > Clinton  . It has also been
> > > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> > > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> > > 
> > > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > > 
> > > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> > > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> > >   Al
> > > Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
> > >   on both the Senate
> > > bill and the conference report
> > >  > > e#The_conference_report> .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> > >   The House passed the
> > > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
> > > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> > >   (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> > > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > > 
> > > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> > > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> > > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> > > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > > 
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> > > egislative_history
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Results:]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > > 
> > > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
> > > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
> > > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
> > > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > > previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent,
> > > were in the private sector.[37]
> > > 
> > > * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> > > Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338,
> > > from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]
> > > 
> > > * Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30
> > > years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in January
> > > 2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40 consecutive
> > > months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2 percent in
> > > 1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for
> > > Hispanics fell from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in 2000,
> > > also the lowest rate on record.[37]
> > > 
> > > * Inflation dropped to its lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration,
> > > averaging 2.5 percent, and fell from 4.7 percent during the previous
> > > administration.[39]
> > > 
> > > * The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent near the end of the
> > > Clinton administration, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the
> > > homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981
> > > to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993.[40]
> > > 
> > > * The poverty rate also declined from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 11.8
> > > percent in 1999, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

Now that is funny! Ambrose Dixon was harrassed out of Virginia because he was a 
quaker also. Lord Baltimore invited him and several other unhappy Virginia 
quakers to settle in Maryland, which he/they did.

From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 12:25:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Mike Dixon wrote:
> > S South America? Why would I want to move there? My family
> > has been here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown
> > Virginia.
> 
> LOL! My mother's ancestors arrived in Jamestown back then.
> Welsh yuppies I think. Yours Welsh yuppies too?

Huh, my mother's too, English Quakers, around 16 years later,
except they arrived in Boston (causing something of a ruckus
and ultimately being expelled from the colony).

> My sister mused that she could be a DAR member when we
> found that out.

I could be too!

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan


Don't forget about that little Bill Gates thingy and Oh yes, my dear that 
little dot com thingy too.just minor of course.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> The Republicans voted unanimously AGAINST the Clinton Revenue Reconciliation 
> Act of 1993. The Republicans had NO PART in the legislation that created the 
> basis of economic strength, prosperity and surpluses in the decade of the 90s.
> The Republican Congress true colors were revealed as soon as G W Bush took 
> office. Together Bush and the Republican Congress immediately did what they 
> always do - cut taxes on the wealthiest.  First and foremost, Republicans cut 
> taxes on the wealthy.  Reagan the Republican in the 1980s also dismantled 
> America's then-role as the largest creditor nation into the largest debtor 
> nation, before Reagan left office in 1989.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG"  wrote:
> >
> > Thank God he had a Republican Congress!
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Not a single Republican vote.  Sound familiar ?Clinton led America to 
> > > create tremendous prosperity, surpluses, peace and put the U.S. clearly 
> > > in a beneficent and dominant role at end of his second term.  No good 
> > > deed goes unpunished - and the Republicans, green with envy at Clinton's 
> > > economic record - relentlessly pursued Clinton with accusations of 
> > > immorality and perjury witch hunts that led to impeachment by the House, 
> > > and just short of expulsion from the Presidency  by the Senate.  
> > > G W Bush quickly sewed up the 2000 Republican Presidential nomination, 
> > > then stole the general election, with the aid of the Supreme Court.  The 
> > > next decade was a disaster largely under complete Republican control.  
> > > The Republicans have less than zero credibility.  November is going to be 
> > > an aberration as a mid-term election.  The Dems will pick up seats, 
> > > instead of lose them.  Bring it On.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> > > > history
> > > > 
> > > > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> > > > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> > > > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > > > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > > > 
> > > > From Wikipedia:
> > > > 
> > > > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> > > > 103rd United States Congress
> > > >   and signed
> > > > into law by President
> > > >   Bill
> > > > Clinton  . It has also been
> > > > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> > > > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> > > > 
> > > > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > > > 
> > > > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> > > > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> > > >   Al
> > > > Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
> > > >   on both the Senate
> > > > bill and the conference report
> > > >  > > > e#The_conference_report> .
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> > > >   The House passed the
> > > > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
> > > > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> > > >   (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> > > > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > > > 
> > > > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> > > > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> > > > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> > > > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > > > 
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> > > > egislative_history
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [Results:]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > > > 
> > > > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
> > > > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
> > > > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
> > > > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > > > previous 12 years. Of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

Small world. Tenth GGrandfather was from London and married a young Welsh lady 
named Katheryn Barkley or Berkley in Jamestown. Naaa, we tried that once, got 
our asses kicked. Maybe we'll stay and cause enough trouble  till you kick us 
out. I'm picturing a Texas Moses right now, LOL. Pharaoh Obama, let my people 
go, thus sayeth the Lord and the Pharaoh harden his heart and the Lord brought 
ten plagues upon the land. The first, out of control government spending and 
borrowing insuring the captivity of it's people in debt. The second, a burden 
on the health care system that would surely raise the cost of health care for 
all and shorten the lives of those dependent on it. Third, the Lord sent a 
flood of illegals across the border, which Pharaoh welcomed, to get their 
votes, but they flooded the fragile system in  order to suckle on the big tit 
and suddenly the Sow developed mastitis and could feed no more. Then the little 
pigs went wee wee wee all the
 way home. Well I'm trippin' now, sorry.

From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 11:30:17 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

Mike Dixon wrote:
> S South America? Why would I want to move there? My family has been here ten 
> generation, since 1640 in Jamestown Virginia. 
LOL! My mother's ancestors arrived in Jamestown back then. Welsh 
yuppies I think. Yours Welsh yuppies too?

My sister mused that she could be a DAR member when we found that out.

There may not be an America when November rolls around. Aren't you 
Texans seceding anyway?

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan

  The Dems will pick up seats, instead of lose them.  Bring it On. 

What is the battle cry for the Repulicans going to be:  "HE GAVE HEALTH CARE TO 
CHILDREN.  HE TOLD INSURANCE COMPANIES THEY COULDN'T DENY COVERAGE FOR 
PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.  THIS IS NOT AMERICA, THIS IS SOCIALISM. THESE 
MEASURES MUST BE REPEALED"  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> > history
> > 
> > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > 
> > From Wikipedia:
> > 
> > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> > 103rd United States Congress
> >   and signed
> > into law by President
> >   Bill
> > Clinton  . It has also been
> > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> > 
> > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > 
> > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> >   Al
> > Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
> >   on both the Senate
> > bill and the conference report
> >  > e#The_conference_report> .
> > 
> > 
> > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> >   The House passed the
> > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
> > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> >   (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > 
> > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> > egislative_history
> > 
> > 
> > [Results:]
> > 
> > 
> > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > 
> > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
> > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
> > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > 
> > 
> > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
> > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent,
> > were in the private sector.[37]
> > 
> > * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> > Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338,
> > from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]
> > 
> > * Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30
> > years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in January
> > 2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40 consecutive
> > months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2 percent in
> > 1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for
> > Hispanics fell from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in 2000,
> > also the lowest rate on record.[37]
> > 
> > * Inflation dropped to its lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration,
> > averaging 2.5 percent, and fell from 4.7 percent during the previous
> > administration.[39]
> > 
> > * The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent near the end of the
> > Clinton administration, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the
> > homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981
> > to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993.[40]
> > 
> > * The poverty rate also declined from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 11.8
> > percent in 1999, the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30
> > years. This left 7 million fewer people in poverty than there were in
> > 1993.[41]
> > 
> > * The surplus in fiscal year 2000 was $237 billionthe third
> > consecutive surplus and the largest surplus ever.[40]
> > 
> > * Clinton worked with the Republican-led Congress to enact welfare
> > reform. As a result, welfare rolls dropped dramatically and were the
> > lowest since 1969. Between January 1993 and September 1999, the number
> > of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 million (a 53 percent decline) to
> > 6.6 million. In comparison, between 19811992, the number of welfare
> > recipien

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG"  wrote:
>
> Thank God he had a Republican Congress!
> 


. . . a Republican Congress that voted AGAINST the most important and 
unprecedentedly successful economic legislation in decades.



> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Not a single Republican vote.  Sound familiar ?Clinton led America to 
> > create tremendous prosperity, surpluses, peace and put the U.S. clearly in 
> > a beneficent and dominant role at end of his second term.  No good deed 
> > goes unpunished - and the Republicans, green with envy at Clinton's 
> > economic record - relentlessly pursued Clinton with accusations of 
> > immorality and perjury witch hunts that led to impeachment by the House, 
> > and just short of expulsion from the Presidency  by the Senate.  
> > G W Bush quickly sewed up the 2000 Republican Presidential nomination, then 
> > stole the general election, with the aid of the Supreme Court.  The next 
> > decade was a disaster largely under complete Republican control.  The 
> > Republicans have less than zero credibility.  November is going to be an 
> > aberration as a mid-term election.  The Dems will pick up seats, instead of 
> > lose them.  Bring it On.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> > > history
> > > 
> > > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> > > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> > > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > > 
> > > From Wikipedia:
> > > 
> > > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> > > 103rd United States Congress
> > >   and signed
> > > into law by President
> > >   Bill
> > > Clinton  . It has also been
> > > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> > > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> > > 
> > > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > > 
> > > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> > > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> > >   Al
> > > Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
> > >   on both the Senate
> > > bill and the conference report
> > >  > > e#The_conference_report> .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> > >   The House passed the
> > > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
> > > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> > >   (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> > > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > > 
> > > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> > > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> > > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> > > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > > 
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> > > egislative_history
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Results:]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > > 
> > > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
> > > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
> > > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
> > > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > > previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent,
> > > were in the private sector.[37]
> > > 
> > > * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> > > Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338,
> > > from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]
> > > 
> > > * Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30
> > > years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in January
> > > 2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40 consecutive
> > > months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2 percent in
> > > 1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for
> > > Hispanics fell from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in 2000,
> > > also the lowest rate on record.[37]
> > > 
> > > * Inflation dropped to its lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration,
> > > averaging 2.5

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan

The Republicans voted unanimously AGAINST the Clinton Revenue Reconciliation 
Act of 1993. The Republicans had NO PART in the legislation that created the 
basis of economic strength, prosperity and surpluses in the decade of the 90s.
The Republican Congress true colors were revealed as soon as G W Bush took 
office. Together Bush and the Republican Congress immediately did what they 
always do - cut taxes on the wealthiest.  First and foremost, Republicans cut 
taxes on the wealthy.  Reagan the Republican in the 1980s also dismantled 
America's then-role as the largest creditor nation into the largest debtor 
nation, before Reagan left office in 1989.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG"  wrote:
>
> Thank God he had a Republican Congress!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Not a single Republican vote.  Sound familiar ?Clinton led America to 
> > create tremendous prosperity, surpluses, peace and put the U.S. clearly in 
> > a beneficent and dominant role at end of his second term.  No good deed 
> > goes unpunished - and the Republicans, green with envy at Clinton's 
> > economic record - relentlessly pursued Clinton with accusations of 
> > immorality and perjury witch hunts that led to impeachment by the House, 
> > and just short of expulsion from the Presidency  by the Senate.  
> > G W Bush quickly sewed up the 2000 Republican Presidential nomination, then 
> > stole the general election, with the aid of the Supreme Court.  The next 
> > decade was a disaster largely under complete Republican control.  The 
> > Republicans have less than zero credibility.  November is going to be an 
> > aberration as a mid-term election.  The Dems will pick up seats, instead of 
> > lose them.  Bring it On.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> > > history
> > > 
> > > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> > > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> > > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > > 
> > > From Wikipedia:
> > > 
> > > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> > > 103rd United States Congress
> > >   and signed
> > > into law by President
> > >   Bill
> > > Clinton  . It has also been
> > > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> > > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> > > 
> > > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > > 
> > > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> > > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> > >   Al
> > > Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
> > >   on both the Senate
> > > bill and the conference report
> > >  > > e#The_conference_report> .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> > >   The House passed the
> > > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
> > > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> > >   (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> > > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > > 
> > > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> > > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> > > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> > > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > > 
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> > > egislative_history
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Results:]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > > 
> > > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
> > > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
> > > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
> > > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > > previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent,
> > > were in the private sector.[37]
> > > 
> > > * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> > > Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338,
> > > from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]
> > > 
> > > * Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY or we went wrong

2010-03-27 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > 
> > The powers of rasayanas, mantras, yagyas, and time are effective for
> > bestowing supernatural abilities, but none of these help in 
> > attaining the state of the highest Self.
> > 
> > The attainment of the Self arises when the web of all desires 
> > comes to an end. How could a mind immersed in the pursuit of 
> > siddhis attain that?
> 
> What is fascinating to me, Vaj, are the numbers of
> TM "old-timers" who, like me, sat there in rooms in
> 1968 and 1969 and heard Maharishi say *exactly* the
> same things, couched in the language of "Capture
> the fort." He warned over and over and over in those
> days about the debilitating effect of the siddhis,
> and counseled that they would slow progress to
> enlightenment or prevent it.
> 
> A few years later, and they not only all signed on
> to learn the very siddhis he preached against in his
> early teachings, they conveniently forgot that he
> had ever taught that they were a classic spiritual
> mistake. 
> 
> And I guess I can't complain, because I did it, too.
> When caught in the sway of someone who bases much of
> his appeal on his followers' inability to remember
> what he said the year before or the month before or
> even the day before, one does stupid shit.
>

I have a somewhat alternative take on the capture the fort / sidhis 
progression. Not that my slant and recall are correct, but for the sake of 
comprehensiveness and discussion ... 

As I recall, in the later 60's / early 70' there was as if a large awakening 
that there was something more than as Frank Zappa said "tv dinners by the pool, 
oh, I'm so glad I went to school". Huge interest in alternative states, seeing 
auras and/or angels, knowing past lives, astrology, avatars, herbal powers, 
mind power, stopping the war, civil rights, political struggle, being creative, 
getting one's trip together, living in tune with nature .. These aims were 
explored an promoted by many groups -- Silva Mind Control, EST, Scientology, 
Hare-Krishna, yoga, chanting, Sai Baba, Be Here Now, Swami Satchidanada, Kirpal 
Sing, Don Juan books .. an many more. As i recall, it was in this context and 
open-air spiritual bazar (or bizzare)  environment that Maharishi said capture 
the fort "pure consciousness" -- and having done that, everything else will 
come, unfold, etc.   He said don't get hung up on things that don't take you to 
the fort, that don't enable transcendence. An he talked about lots of different 
types of yogas that would enable transcendence.  

He never said, "skip GC, its a waste of time, seeing, knowing, obtaining  union 
with the Divine is a waste of time." He said advanced techniques slowed down 
transcending so that the subtle fields could be enlivened. He never said "skip 
these advanced techniques just transcend as fast as you can." 

He emphasized that activity (strong, dynamic) was as critical as transcending. 
He never said, skip activity, just sit in your room and transcend all day long 
-- forever. (TTC's had prolonged meds, but also, a fair amount of activity -- 
including "lower chakra release and cleansing" so I am told. )

THEN, 5-8 years after all of that, he said -- OK, now that Pure Consciousness 
is stabilizing, the cloth is getting yellow. Now, he said, lets start to play 
in the PC an make it even stronger. The siddhis were / are all about enlivening 
PC in more and more realms of our lives an existence. I never heard him say -- 
ok, get clairavoyance and stop there -- thats all there is. It always about PC 
first and ways to expand and enliven it.

But as they say, if you remember the 60's you were not there.

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan

Thank God he had a Republican Congress!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> Not a single Republican vote.  Sound familiar ?Clinton led America to 
> create tremendous prosperity, surpluses, peace and put the U.S. clearly in a 
> beneficent and dominant role at end of his second term.  No good deed goes 
> unpunished - and the Republicans, green with envy at Clinton's economic 
> record - relentlessly pursued Clinton with accusations of immorality and 
> perjury witch hunts that led to impeachment by the House, and just short of 
> expulsion from the Presidency  by the Senate.  
> G W Bush quickly sewed up the 2000 Republican Presidential nomination, then 
> stole the general election, with the aid of the Supreme Court.  The next 
> decade was a disaster largely under complete Republican control.  The 
> Republicans have less than zero credibility.  November is going to be an 
> aberration as a mid-term election.  The Dems will pick up seats, instead of 
> lose them.  Bring it On.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> > history
> > 
> > As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> > million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> > small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> > wealthiest taxpayers.
> > 
> > From Wikipedia:
> > 
> > "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> > 103rd United States Congress
> >   and signed
> > into law by President
> >   Bill
> > Clinton  . It has also been
> > referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> > with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> > 
> > [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> > 
> > Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> > a number of Democrats. Vice President
> >   Al
> > Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
> >   on both the Senate
> > bill and the conference report
> >  > e#The_conference_report> .
> > 
> > 
> > The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
> >   The House passed the
> > conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
> > (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
> >   (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> > 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> > 
> > ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> > 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> > voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> > Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> > egislative_history
> > 
> > 
> > [Results:]
> > 
> > 
> > During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> > 
> > * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
> > growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
> > 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> > 
> > 
> > * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
> > under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> > previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent,
> > were in the private sector.[37]
> > 
> > * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> > Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338,
> > from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]
> > 
> > * Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30
> > years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in January
> > 2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40 consecutive
> > months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2 percent in
> > 1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for
> > Hispanics fell from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in 2000,
> > also the lowest rate on record.[37]
> > 
> > * Inflation dropped to its lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration,
> > averaging 2.5 percent, and fell from 4.7 percent during the previous
> > administration.[39]
> > 
> > * The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent near the end of the
> > Clinton administration, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the
> > homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981
> > to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993.[40]
> > 
> > * The poverty rate also d

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan

Not a single Republican vote.  Sound familiar ?Clinton led America to 
create tremendous prosperity, surpluses, peace and put the U.S. clearly in a 
beneficent and dominant role at end of his second term.  No good deed goes 
unpunished - and the Republicans, green with envy at Clinton's economic record 
- relentlessly pursued Clinton with accusations of immorality and perjury witch 
hunts that led to impeachment by the House, and just short of expulsion from 
the Presidency  by the Senate.  
G W Bush quickly sewed up the 2000 Republican Presidential nomination, then 
stole the general election, with the aid of the Supreme Court.  The next decade 
was a disaster largely under complete Republican control.  The Republicans have 
less than zero credibility.  November is going to be an aberration as a 
mid-term election.  The Dems will pick up seats, instead of lose them.  Bring 
it On.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
> history
> 
> As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
> million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
> small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
> wealthiest taxpayers.
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
> "The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
> 103rd United States Congress
>   and signed
> into law by President
>   Bill
> Clinton  . It has also been
> referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
> with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.
> 
> [...and just like today's Republicans ]
> 
> Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
> a number of Democrats. Vice President
>   Al
> Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
>   on both the Senate
> bill and the conference report
>  e#The_conference_report> .
> 
> 
> The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
>   The House passed the
> conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
> (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
>   (VT-I)) voting in favor;
> 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)
> 
> ...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
> 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
> voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
> Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
> egislative_history
> 
> 
> [Results:]
> 
> 
> During the Bill Clinton Presidency:
> 
> * Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
> growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
> 116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]
> 
> 
> * Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
> under a single administration, and more than were created in the
> previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent,
> were in the private sector.[37]
> 
> * Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
> Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338,
> from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]
> 
> * Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30
> years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in January
> 2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40 consecutive
> months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2 percent in
> 1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for
> Hispanics fell from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in 2000,
> also the lowest rate on record.[37]
> 
> * Inflation dropped to its lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration,
> averaging 2.5 percent, and fell from 4.7 percent during the previous
> administration.[39]
> 
> * The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent near the end of the
> Clinton administration, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the
> homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981
> to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993.[40]
> 
> * The poverty rate also declined from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 11.8
> percent in 1999, the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30
> years. This left 7 million fewer people in poverty than there were in
> 1993.[41]
> 
> * The surplus in fiscal year 2000 was $237 billionthe third
> consecutive surplus and the largest surplus eve

[FairfieldLife] EVERY Republican voted against Clinton's Economic Plan


President Clinton signed into law the largest deficit reduction plan in
history

As part of the 1993 Economic Plan, President Clinton cut taxes on 15
million low-income families and made tax cuts available to 90 percent of
small businesses, while raising taxes on just 1.2 percent of the
wealthiest taxpayers.

>From Wikipedia:

"The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 ... was passed by the
103rd United States Congress
  and signed
into law by President
  Bill
Clinton  . It has also been
referred to as the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. Part XIII, which dealt
with taxes, is also called the Revenue Reconciliation Act of 1993.

[...and just like today's Republicans ]

Ultimately *every Republican in Congress voted against the bill,* as did
a number of Democrats. Vice President
  Al
Gore   broke a tie in the Senate
  on both the Senate
bill and the conference report
 .


The House bill passed 219-213.[1]
  The House passed the
conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216
(217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders
  (VT-I)) voting in favor;
41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against)

...The Senate passed the conference report ... on Friday, August 6,
1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore
voting in favor, ... and 44 Republicans voting against). President
Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#L\
egislative_history


[Results:]


During the Bill Clinton Presidency:

* Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average
growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for
116 consecutive months, the most in history.[36]


* Creation of more than 22.5 million jobsthe most jobs ever created
under a single administration, and more than were created in the
previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent,
were in the private sector.[37]

* Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all
Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338,
from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).[38]

* Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30
years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in January
2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40 consecutive
months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2 percent in
1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for
Hispanics fell from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in 2000,
also the lowest rate on record.[37]

* Inflation dropped to its lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration,
averaging 2.5 percent, and fell from 4.7 percent during the previous
administration.[39]

* The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent near the end of the
Clinton administration, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the
homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981
to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993.[40]

* The poverty rate also declined from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 11.8
percent in 1999, the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30
years. This left 7 million fewer people in poverty than there were in
1993.[41]

* The surplus in fiscal year 2000 was $237 billionthe third
consecutive surplus and the largest surplus ever.[40]

* Clinton worked with the Republican-led Congress to enact welfare
reform. As a result, welfare rolls dropped dramatically and were the
lowest since 1969. Between January 1993 and September 1999, the number
of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 million (a 53 percent decline) to
6.6 million. In comparison, between 19811992, the number of welfare
recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6
million
people.[42]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Bill_Clinton

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY went wrong


On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Vaj wrote:

>  So given that weird expertise, it's difficult for me to flat-out say 
> 'smoking tobacco is used in some actual esoteric pranayama', certainly native 
> Americans use it as a sacrament. 

Sorry, should have been"

 "So given that weird expertise, it's difficult for me to flat-out say 'smoking 
tobacco is not used in some actual esoteric pranayama',"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY went wrong

On Mar 27, 2010, at 12:04 PM, WillyTex wrote:

> > The Marshy recommended his students didn't 
> > read Sanskrit literature, beyond what he 
> > explained about it, as it would just confuse 
> > them. You'd do well to take his advice.
> > 
> Not really: TMers read the Bhagavad Gita and
> the Upanishads all the time, which is Sanskrit 
> literature. The transliterated Vedas are 
> all available at the MUM bookstore up in 
> Fairfield.

You're getting confused again Willy. Notice I said "beyond what he explained 
about it". In other words, don't read any other "Vedic" literature other than 
my own and what I approve (e.g. the Ninth and Tenth mandala trans.). Of course 
traditionally it is felt in the east that a guru should explain these texts to 
their students.

BTW, Swami Rama did smoke, although he claimed it was used in some esoteric 
pranayamas. Now I tend to think "wow, what a bullshit answer, do you think I 
was born yesterday?"--but I also know Mr. Rama had a number of very unusual 
siddhis. One was he could tell, by being near a person and observing their 
breathing pattern, their sidereal rising sign (the stellar constellation on the 
horizon at the moment of their birth). That's a pretty odd ability for someone 
to have. So given that weird expertise, it's difficult for me to flat-out say 
'smoking tobacco is used in some actual esoteric pranayama', certainly native 
Americans use it as a sacrament.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

My apologies to Dix and his math - 10 generations in America since 1640 is  
accurate. I misquoted my family's generations in America since the 1630s as 30 
generations. The correct number is 13.  I'm sorry for questioning your math, 
Dix.
-Mainstream 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> Hey, Dix,
> Check your math regarding 10 generations of your family in 
> America since 1640.
> About 30 generations of my family have been born in America, beginning in 
> 1637. 
> 
> By the way, in 2000 the U.S. was in great shape, until G.W. Bush and the far 
> right took total control of all aspects of our government.  They ruined the 
> country.  
> 
> Barack Obama is extraordinary.  This Patriot loves him.  
> 
> - Mainstream 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Steve, when Obama was elected, I thought it might take about four years to 
> > piss off enough people to at least take back the WH and at least one branch 
> > of congress. We may be ahead of schedule to take back one or possibly both 
> > branches this November. If we don't, two more years will just pound it into 
> > the minds of those that voted for Obama that "maybe we could have chosen a 
> > better candidate". It took four years of Jimmy Carter toÂ  create the 
> > Reagan Revolution. South America? Why would I want to move there? My family 
> > has been here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown Virginia. Oh yeah, 
> > I've got lots of faith in the American people. When they screw up and see 
> > it, they are pretty good at fixing things. Voting, of course all law 
> > abiding citizens should vote, however I think there should a voter ID with 
> > photo to prove who you are when casting that vote and maybe even at least a 
> > high school diploma to show some understanding of our system of government 
> > and
> >  economics, it's free. If you're not hearing about the war on terror 
> > everyday, it's not because we aren't at war, it's because your media 
> > choices don't talk about it as much so it will look like Obama has solved 
> > the problem. We're safe? Tell that to the 13 that died at Fort Hood at the 
> > hands of a terrorist who infiltrated the military or the two army 
> > recruiters shot by another terrorist in AK. or the people on the flight 
> > coming into Detroit that were nearly blown up, but no, I'm not upset, it's 
> > to be expected these days. I thought the war on terror* is* an 
> > internationalÂ  issue. IÂ  also thought Obama was going to get the rest of 
> > the world to take up their fair share of responsibility in that war. 
> > Remember that?Â What bothers me is that we've gotÂ a moron *focusing like 
> > aÂ  dim flash light*on domestic and international issues making things much 
> > worse in the short and long run. Now Steve,when Obama and his leftist 
> > government ARE thrown out, will you go
> >  berserk? Can you go berserk if you already are? 
> > 
> > . 
> > 
> > From: lurkernomore20002000 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 5:29:27 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo
> > 
> > Â  
> > Come November you can vote the bums out of office Dix. What the HELL are 
> > you going to do if that doesn't happen. Maybe you should move to South 
> > America. Do you have faith in the American people, or only when they vote 
> > your way? Should the American people even have the right to vote? Maybe 
> > they can't be trusted with a ballot. Are you upset that the country has 
> > been safe, even though we don't hear about the "War on Terror" everyday. 
> > Does it bother you that we have a president who is focussing on domestic, 
> > and international issues, and not spending 80% of his time on the "War on 
> > Terror". And the fact that he lets the military prosecute our conflicts in 
> > the way they see best, and not having the president, vice president and 
> > secretary of defense trying to call all the shots. Or would it serve your 
> > purposes if the country was attacked. How bout it Dix? What's the scoop?. 
> > Which is better? And what's your take on the American people Dix? Is their 
> > judgment to be
> >  trusted, or not. God, you better hope that in November they vote your way. 
> > You may just go beserk if they don't.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > >
> > > BullshitÂ Â Bingo
> > > 
> > > 1. BeforeÂ Â Barrack Obama's next televised speech, prepare your 
> > > "Bullshit Bingo" card by drawing a square -- I find that 5" x 5" is a 
> > > good size --Â Â and dividing it into columns -- five across and five 
> > > down.Â Â That will give you 25Â Â 1-inch blocks.
> > > 
> > > 2. Write one of the following words/phrases in each block:
> > > 
> > > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Restored our reputation
> > > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Strategic fitÂ Â 
> > > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Let me be clear
> > > Â Â Â·Â Â Â

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:

> Voting, of course all law abiding citizens should vote,
> however I think there should a voter ID with photo to
> prove who you are when casting that vote and maybe even
> at least a high school diploma to show some understanding
> of our system of government and economics

You mean like, "Keep your government hands off my
Medicare"? You think that guy should be allowed to
vote?

Maybe we should reinstitute the poll tax too, ya
think? Keep the riff-raff out of the voting booths.

> it's free. If you're not hearing about the war on terror
> everyday, it's not because we aren't at war, it's because
> your media choices don't talk about it as much so it will
> look like Obama has solved the problem.

I don't think anybody thinks the problem has been
solved, least of all Obama.

> We're safe? Tell that to the 13 that died at Fort Hood at
> the hands of a terrorist who infiltrated the military

Just for the record, that isn't what he was. He'd been
*in* the military for some time before he started
having terrorist-type leanings.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Mike Dixon wrote:
> > S South America? Why would I want to move there? My family
> > has been here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown
> > Virginia.
> 
> LOL!  My mother's ancestors arrived in Jamestown back then.
> Welsh yuppies I think.  Yours Welsh yuppies too?

Huh, my mother's too, English Quakers, around 16 years later,
except they arrived in Boston (causing something of a ruckus
and ultimately being expelled from the colony).

> My sister mused that she could be a DAR member when we
> found that out.

I could be too!

[FairfieldLife] Presidents and fiscal conservatism



Presidents and fiscal conservatism:
Cartoon: http://www.bartcop.com/fiscal-conservatives-808.jpg


US Budget Deficit or Surplus - 1961 to present - Click to enlarge:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/368978847_9f70bfd9c3_o.gif


National Debt and percentage of GDP and Presidents - 1950 to Oct 2008 - CHART:
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/thefederalbudget/ig/Political-Economic-Measures/Debt-GDP-by-President.htm


National Debt Chart: http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.jpg


Deficit Obama inherited and current projections showing reduction:
http://snipurl.com/v3w1q   [media_mcclatchydc_com]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo


Hey Dix,

Thanks for the response. You started off friendly enough, but then got a
little nasty.  I guess I did too.  Some comments as I read through
again.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
>
> Steve, when Obama was elected, I thought it might take about four
years to piss off enough people to at least take back the WH and at
least one branch of congress. We may be ahead of schedule to take back
one or possibly both branches this November. As Obama said, "that's what
elections are for"  I can't wait. I have no idea which way it will go. I
know that I am not pissed off.   If we don't, two more years will just
pound it into the minds of those that voted for Obama that "maybe we
could have chosen a better candidate". I don't get it Dix, how could
people be more angry than they are now.  It reminds me of some of the
fox news guys.  First they were mad at Obama, then they were really mad,
then really, really mad, and so it goes.  Why don't they own up that
they most likely hated him immensely from the first moment, and skip
this silly build up.  Kind of like it seems what you are doing-"if the
American people don't realize in November, then for sure, for really
sure they will in two years It took four years of Jimmy Carter toÂ 
create the Reagan Revolution.  I see little similiariy between Jimmy
Carter and Obama.  Jimmy Carter couldn't seem to get past the details. 
A poor manager IMO. I'm not seeing that here.  Agree, or disagree, Obama
will make decisions.  He may change his postiton of things, but is there
something wrong with that? South America? Why would I want to move
there? My family has been here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown
Virginia. Neat Oh yeah, I've got lots of faith in the American people. 
Sounds a little sarcastic, but I guess you are being straight When they
screw up and see it, they are pretty good at fixing things. Voting, of
course all law abiding citizens should vote, however I think there
should a voter ID with photo to prove who you are when casting that vote
and maybe even at least a high school diploma to show some understanding
of our system of government I could see making a case for that and
> economics, it's free. If you're not hearing about the war on terror
everyday, it's not because we aren't at war, it's because your media
choices don't talk about it as much so it will look like Obama has
solved the problem. Mike, come on.  Nobody feels that way.  That is just
plain silly We're safe? Tell that to the 13 that died at Fort Hood at
the hands of a terrorist who infiltrated the military or the two army
recruiters shot by another terrorist in AK. or the people on the flight
coming into Detroit that were nearly blown up, but no, I'm not upset,
it's to be expected these days. Mike, careful, please don't start
pinning these occurances on Obama.  I don't think that is valid.  At
what point does something not get attributed to him?  Let's take in a
slightly larger picture.I thought the war on terror* is* an
internationalÂ  issue. IÂ  also thought Obama was going to get the
rest of the world to take up their fair share of responsibility in that
war. Whatever Mike. Bush considered himself a "wartime" president.  That
is what seemed to interest him and his VP far more than any domestic
issues.  And these civilians seemed intent on pushing their agenda over
the advice military people.  Only with great reluctance, and at the 11th
hour did they turn crucial decisions to David Petraeus.  And you know
the rest of the story.  Remember that?Â What bothers me is that we've
gotÂ a moron *focusing like aÂ  dim flash light*on domestic and
international issues making things much worse in the short and long run.
When all else fails, resort to some good old name calling.  Tell me how
the world is so worse off now, than before he took office.  I can tell
you for sure that we seem to be having a lot more success in tracking
down and killing Al Quida. Does Obama get any credit for that, or is
that just a carry over from what George Bush put in place? Now
Steve,when Obama and his leftist government ARE thrown out, will you go
> berserk? Can you go berserk if you already are?  Mike, I don't know
how you view the Bush presidency.  Perhaps you see it as some grand
success.  I don't.
>
> .
> 
> From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 5:29:27 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo
>
> Â
> Come November you can vote the bums out of office Dix. What the HELL
are you going to do if that doesn't happen. Maybe you should move to
South America. Do you have faith in the American people, or only when
they vote your way? Should the American people even have the right to
vote? Maybe they can't be trusted with a ballot. Are you upset that the
country has been safe, even though we don't hear about the "War on
Terror" everyday. Does it bother you that we have a president who is

[FairfieldLife] White men shun Democrats

2010-03-27 Thread It's just a ride

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=915922&category=OPINION

By *DAVID PAUL KUHN*
 First published in print: Saturday, March 27, 2010 Millions of white men
who voted for Barack Obama are walking away from the Democratic Party, and
it appears increasingly likely that they'll take the midterms elections in
November with them. Their departure could well lead to a GOP landslide on a
scale not seen since 1994.
For more than three decades before the 2008 election, no Democratic
president had won a majority of the electorate. In part, that was because of
low support -- never more than 38 percent -- among white male voters. Things
changed with Obama, who not only won a majority of all people voting, but
also pulled in 41 percent of white male voters.

Polling suggests that the shift was not because of Obama but because of the
financial meltdown that preceded the election. It was only after the
economic collapse that Obama's white male support climbed above the 38
percent ceiling. It was also at that point that Obama first sustained a
clear majority among all registered voters, according to the Gallup tracking
poll.

It looked for a moment as though Democrats had finally reached the men of
Bruce Springsteen's music, bringing them around to the progressive values
Springsteen himself has long endorsed. But liberal analysts failed to
understand that these new Democrats were still firmly rooted in American
moderation.

Pollsters regularly ask voters whether they would rather see a Democrat or
Republican win their district. By February, support for Democrats among
white people (male and female) was three percentage points lower than in
February 1994, the year of the last Republican landslide.

Today, among whites, only 35 percent of men and 43 percent of women say they
will back Democrats in the fall election. Women's preferences have remained
steady since July 2009. But white men's support for a Democratic Congress
has fallen eight percentage points, according to Gallup.

White men have moved away from Obama as well. The same proportion of white
women approve of him -- 46 percent, according to Gallup -- as voted for him
in 2008. But only 38 percent of white men approve of the President, which
means that millions of white men who voted for Obama have now lost faith in
him.

The migration of white men from the Democratic Party was evident in the
election of Republican Scott Brown in Massachusetts. His opponent, a white
woman, won 52 percent of white women. But white men favored Brown by a 60
percent to 38 percent margin, according to Fabrizio, McLaughlin & Associates
polling.

It's no accident that the flight of white males from the Democratic Party
has come as the government has assumed a bigger role, including in banking
and health care. Among whites, 71 percent of men and 56 percent of women
favor a smaller government with fewer services over a larger government with
more services, according to ABC/Washington Post polling.

 Obama's brand of liberalism is exactly the sort likely to drive such voters
away. More like LBJ's than FDR's, Obama-style liberalism favors benefits
over relief, a safety net over direct job programs, health care and
environmental reform over financial reform and a stimulus package that has
focused more on social service jobs -- health care work, teaching and the
like -- than on the areas where a majority of job losses occurred:
construction, manufacturing and related sectors.

This recession remains disproportionately a "he-cession." Men account for at
least seven of 10 workers who lost jobs, according to the latest Bureau of
Labor Statistics data. Nearly half of the casualties are white men, who held
46 percent of all jobs lost.

In 1994, liberals tried to explain their thinning ranks by casting
aspersions on the white men who were fleeing, and the media took up the cry.
The term "angry white male" or "angry white men" was mentioned 37 times in
English-language news media contained in the Nexis database between 1980 and
the 1994 election. In the following year, the phrases appear 2,306 times.

Tarnishing their opponents as merely "angry" was poor politics for the
Democrats. Liberals know what it's like to have their views -- most recently
on the war in Iraq or George W. Bush -- caricatured as merely irrational
anger. Most voters vote their interests. And many white men by the 1980s had
decided the Democrats were no longer interested in them.

Think about the average working man. He has already seen financial bailouts
for the rich folks above him. Now he sees a health care bailout for the poor
folks below him. Big government represents lots of costs and little gain.

Meanwhile, like many women, these men are simply trying to push ahead
without being pushed under. Some once believed in Obama. Now they feel
forgotten.

Government can only do so much. But recall the Depression. FDR's focus on
the economy was single-minded and relentless. Hard times continued, but men
never doubted

[FairfieldLife] AT&T to Book $1 Billion Cost on Health-Care Reform

2010-03-27 Thread It's just a ride

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-26/at-t-to-take-1-billion-charge-on-health-care-reform-update1-.html

March 26, 2010, 4:37 PM EDT

By Amy Thomson and Ian King

March 26 (Bloomberg) -- AT&T Inc. will book $1 billion in first-quarter
costs related to the health-care law signed this week by President Barack
Obama, the most of any U.S. company so far.

A change in the tax treatment of Medicare subsidies triggered the non-cash
expense, and the company will consider changes to the benefits it offers
current and retired workers, Dallas-based AT&T said today in a regulatory
filing.

AT&T, the biggest U.S. phone company, joins Caterpillar Inc., AK Steel
Holding Corp. and 3M Co. in recording non-cash expenses against earnings as
a result of the law. Health-care costs may shave as much as $14 billion from
U.S. corporate profits, according to an estimate by benefits consulting firm
Towers Watson. AT&T employed about 281,000 people as of the end of January.

“Companies like AT&T, that have large employee bases, are going to have
higher health-care costs and, therefore, lower earnings unless they can
negotiate something or offer less to their employees,” said Chris Larsen, an
analyst at Piper Jaffray & Co. in New York, who rates AT&T shares
“overweight” and doesn’t own any himself.

AT&T previously received a tax-free benefit from the government to subsidize
health-care costs for retirees, who would otherwise be on a Medicare Part D
plan. Under the new bill, AT&T will no longer be able to deduct that
subsidy.

“As a result of this legislation, including the additional tax burden, AT&T
will be evaluating prospective changes to the active and retiree health-care
benefits offered by the company,” the carrier said in the filing.

3M Cost

AT&T’s announcement was followed about an hour later by 3M, the St. Paul,
Minnesota-based maker of products ranging from Post-It Notes to respiratory
masks. 3M said it expects a one-time expense of $85 million to $90 million
after tax, or about 12 cents a share, in the first quarter because of the
new law, according to a statement. 3M had about 75,000 employees as of Feb.
5.

Michael Coe, a spokesman for the carrier, declined to comment. Peter Thonis,
a spokesman for Verizon Communications Inc., which also employs more than
200,000 people, declined to comment.

New York-based Verizon, the second-largest U.S. phone company, told
employees in a note after the law was signed that the tax will make the
subsidy less valuable to employers like Verizon and so “may have significant
implications for both retirees and employers.”

AT&T rose 9 cents to $26.24 at 4 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite
trading. The shares have fallen 6.4 percent this year.

Union Contracts

AT&T employees represented by the Communications Workers of America union
have health benefits locked in via contracts that don’t expire until 2012
and 2013, Candice Johnson, a spokeswoman for the union, said in an
interview. About 58 percent of the carrier’s workforce is represented by the
union, AT&T said in a filing.

Obama signed the health-care reform policy into law on March 23 after a year
of pushing the legislation through Congress without a single Republican
vote. The new law will be phased in over several years and gives tens of
millions of uninsured Americans health coverage. The bill, projected to cost
almost $1 trillion, also calls for new taxes on the highest earners and fees
on health-care companies.

Much of the public is still unsure about the plan with four in 10 Americans
in favor of it, according to a Bloomberg National Poll. Obama is planning a
follow-up campaign to sell the law -- the biggest change to the health
system since Medicare was enacted in 1965 -- to the public.

--With reporting by Roger Runningen in Washington and Alex Nussbaum in New
York. Editors: Lisa Wolfson, Stephen West

To contact the reporter on this story: Ian King in San Francisco at
iank...@bloomberg.net; Amy Thomson in New York at athoms...@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Tom Giles at
tgil...@bloomberg.net; Julie Alnwick at jalnw...@bloomberg.net

--
"The start of Spring is seen by Al Gore as proof of global warming" -- Bill
Clinton

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

Hey, Dix,
Check your math regarding 10 generations of your family in 
America since 1640.
About 30 generations of my family have been born in America, beginning in 1637. 

By the way, in 2000 the U.S. was in great shape, until G.W. Bush and the far 
right took total control of all aspects of our government.  They ruined the 
country.  

Barack Obama is extraordinary.  This Patriot loves him.  

- Mainstream 





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Steve, when Obama was elected, I thought it might take about four years to 
> piss off enough people to at least take back the WH and at least one branch 
> of congress. We may be ahead of schedule to take back one or possibly both 
> branches this November. If we don't, two more years will just pound it into 
> the minds of those that voted for Obama that "maybe we could have chosen a 
> better candidate". It took four years of Jimmy Carter toÂ  create the Reagan 
> Revolution. South America? Why would I want to move there? My family has been 
> here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown Virginia. Oh yeah, I've got lots 
> of faith in the American people. When they screw up and see it, they are 
> pretty good at fixing things. Voting, of course all law abiding citizens 
> should vote, however I think there should a voter ID with photo to prove who 
> you are when casting that vote and maybe even at least a high school diploma 
> to show some understanding of our system of government and
>  economics, it's free. If you're not hearing about the war on terror 
> everyday, it's not because we aren't at war, it's because your media choices 
> don't talk about it as much so it will look like Obama has solved the 
> problem. We're safe? Tell that to the 13 that died at Fort Hood at the hands 
> of a terrorist who infiltrated the military or the two army recruiters shot 
> by another terrorist in AK. or the people on the flight coming into Detroit 
> that were nearly blown up, but no, I'm not upset, it's to be expected these 
> days. I thought the war on terror* is* an internationalÂ  issue. IÂ  also 
> thought Obama was going to get the rest of the world to take up their fair 
> share of responsibility in that war. Remember that?Â What bothers me is that 
> we've gotÂ a moron *focusing like aÂ  dim flash light*on domestic and 
> international issues making things much worse in the short and long run. Now 
> Steve,when Obama and his leftist government ARE thrown out, will you go
>  berserk? Can you go berserk if you already are? 
> 
> . 
> 
> From: lurkernomore20002000 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 5:29:27 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo
> 
> Â  
> Come November you can vote the bums out of office Dix. What the HELL are you 
> going to do if that doesn't happen. Maybe you should move to South America. 
> Do you have faith in the American people, or only when they vote your way? 
> Should the American people even have the right to vote? Maybe they can't be 
> trusted with a ballot. Are you upset that the country has been safe, even 
> though we don't hear about the "War on Terror" everyday. Does it bother you 
> that we have a president who is focussing on domestic, and international 
> issues, and not spending 80% of his time on the "War on Terror". And the fact 
> that he lets the military prosecute our conflicts in the way they see best, 
> and not having the president, vice president and secretary of defense trying 
> to call all the shots. Or would it serve your purposes if the country was 
> attacked. How bout it Dix? What's the scoop?. Which is better? And what's 
> your take on the American people Dix? Is their judgment to be
>  trusted, or not. God, you better hope that in November they vote your way. 
> You may just go beserk if they don't.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > BullshitÂ Â Bingo
> > 
> > 1. BeforeÂ Â Barrack Obama's next televised speech, prepare your "Bullshit 
> > Bingo" card by drawing a square -- I find that 5" x 5" is a good size 
> > --Â Â and dividing it into columns -- five across and five down.Â Â That 
> > will give you 25Â Â 1-inch blocks.
> > 
> > 2. Write one of the following words/phrases in each block:
> > 
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Restored our reputation
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Strategic fitÂ Â 
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Let me be clear
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Make no mistake
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Back from the brink
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Signs ofÂ Â recovery
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Out of the loopÂ Â 
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â BenchmarkÂ Â 
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Job creation
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â FiscalÂ Â restraint
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Win-winÂ 
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Affordable healthÂ care
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â PreviousÂ Â Administration
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Empower (or empowerment)Â Â 
> > Â Â Â·Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Gr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

2010-03-27 Thread Bhairitu

Mike Dixon wrote:
> S South America? Why would I want to move there? My family has been here ten 
> generation, since 1640 in Jamestown Virginia. 
LOL!  My mother's ancestors arrived in Jamestown back then.  Welsh 
yuppies I think.  Yours Welsh yuppies too?

My sister mused that she could be a DAR member when we found that out.

There may not be an America when November rolls around.  Aren't you 
Texans seceding anyway?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

Steve, when Obama was elected, I thought it might take about four years to piss 
off enough people to at least take back the WH and at least one branch of 
congress. We may be ahead of schedule to take back one or possibly both 
branches this November. If we don't, two more years will just pound it into the 
minds of those that voted for Obama that "maybe we could have chosen a better 
candidate". It took four years of Jimmy Carter to  create the Reagan 
Revolution. South America? Why would I want to move there? My family has been 
here ten generation, since 1640 in Jamestown Virginia. Oh yeah, I've got lots 
of faith in the American people. When they screw up and see it, they are pretty 
good at fixing things. Voting, of course all law abiding citizens should vote, 
however I think there should a voter ID with photo to prove who you are when 
casting that vote and maybe even at least a high school diploma to show some 
understanding of our system of government and
 economics, it's free. If you're not hearing about the war on terror everyday, 
it's not because we aren't at war, it's because your media choices don't talk 
about it as much so it will look like Obama has solved the problem. We're safe? 
Tell that to the 13 that died at Fort Hood at the hands of a terrorist who 
infiltrated the military or the two army recruiters shot by another terrorist 
in AK. or the people on the flight coming into Detroit that were nearly blown 
up, but no, I'm not upset, it's to be expected these days. I thought the war on 
terror* is* an international  issue. I  also thought Obama was going to get the 
rest of the world to take up their fair share of responsibility in that war. 
Remember that? What bothers me is that we've got a moron *focusing like a  dim 
flash light*on domestic and international issues making things much worse in 
the short and long run. Now Steve,when Obama and his leftist government ARE 
thrown out, will you go
 berserk? Can you go berserk if you already are? 

. 

From: lurkernomore20002000 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 5:29:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Bullshit Bingo

Come November you can vote the bums out of office Dix. What the HELL are you 
going to do if that doesn't happen. Maybe you should move to South America. Do 
you have faith in the American people, or only when they vote your way? Should 
the American people even have the right to vote? Maybe they can't be trusted 
with a ballot. Are you upset that the country has been safe, even though we 
don't hear about the "War on Terror" everyday. Does it bother you that we have 
a president who is focussing on domestic, and international issues, and not 
spending 80% of his time on the "War on Terror". And the fact that he lets the 
military prosecute our conflicts in the way they see best, and not having the 
president, vice president and secretary of defense trying to call all the 
shots. Or would it serve your purposes if the country was attacked. How bout it 
Dix? What's the scoop?. Which is better? And what's your take on the American 
people Dix? Is their judgment to be
 trusted, or not. God, you better hope that in November they vote your way. You 
may just go beserk if they don't.

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Bullshit  Bingo
> 
> 1. Before  Barrack Obama's next televised speech, prepare your "Bullshit 
> Bingo" card by drawing a square -- I find that 5" x 5" is a good size --  and 
> dividing it into columns -- five across and five down.  That will give you 
> 25  1-inch blocks.
> 
> 2. Write one of the following words/phrases in each block:
> 
>   ·Restored our reputation
>   ·Strategic fit  
>   ·Let me be clear
>   ·Make no mistake
>   ·Back from the brink
>   ·Signs of  recovery
>   ·Out of the loop  
>   ·Benchmark  
>   ·Job creation
>   ·Fiscal  restraint
>   ·Win-win 
>   ·Affordable health care
>   ·Previous  Administration
>   ·Empower (or empowerment)  
>   ·Greed on Wall  Street
>   ·At the end of the day
>   ·"The former administration"   
>   ·Touch base  
>   ·Mindset 
>   ·Corporate greed  
>   ·Ballpark  
>   ·Game plan  
>   ·Leverage  
>   ·Inheritedas in "I inherited this  mess”
>   ·Relief for working families
> 
> 
> 3. During Obama's speech, check off the appropriate block when you hear one 
> of those words/phrases.
> 
> 4. When you get five blocks horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, stand up 
> and shout "BULLSHIT!"
> 
> 
> Testimonials from past satisfied "Bullshit Bingo"  players:
> 
> "I had been listening to the speech for only five minutes when I won." - Jack 
> W., Boston
> 
> "My attention span during speeches has improved dramatically. " - David D., 
> Florida
> 
> "What a gas!  Speeches will

[FairfieldLife] TV's "24" has become so ridiculous...

2010-03-27 Thread Bhairitu

That it has been canceled:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/26/24-day-eight-will-be-the-award-winning-series-final-season

[FairfieldLife] Re: The History of Om

2010-03-27 Thread WillyTex



> > > a i u N ?
> > >
> > Yep.
> >
> Ok...
>
Nope.

The primary symbol of 'Enlightenment' in the 
Shankaracharya tradition is the 'Sri Yantra'.

The Sri Yantra, not the symbol 'OM". 

The Yantra symbol was placed on the mandir 
at Sringeri by the Shankaracharya himself.
A symbol that he apparently brought with 
him from Kashmir.

Sri Yantra:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Yantra

Read more:

The Sri Yantra is based on the Hindu 
philosophy of Kashmir Shaivism. The Sri 
Yantra is the object of devotion in Sri 
Vidya. 

Subject: Yantras and Mantras
Author: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: December 13, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/yer3oxm

[FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY went wrong

2010-03-27 Thread WillyTex



> > Why do you think I pointed out that the verse
> > you cited was self-contradictory?
> >
Vaj: 
> I just figured you were confused again. 
>
You nailed me on that one - I figured you
were unaware of the contradictions in the
'Yoga Vasista'. Any statement, when taken
to extremes, will be found to be very
self-contradictory.

> The Marshy recommended his students didn't 
> read Sanskrit literature, beyond what he 
> explained about it, as it would just confuse 
> them. You'd do well to take his advice.
> 
Not really: TMers read the Bhagavad Gita and
the Upanishads all the time, which is Sanskrit 
literature. The transliterated Vedas are 
all available at the MUM bookstore up in 
Fairfield.

> First hand experience shows that practice 
> of samyama on the siddhis induces delusions 
> of grandeur. 
>
You may be correct on this - apparently the
Swami Rama used to do this all the time, while
at the same time, smoking coffin nails. There
is a photo of the Swami Rama (in Justin's book)
on the lawn in front of his house his bath robe
with what looks like a Marlboro in his hand.

'Walking with a Himalayan Master'
by Justin O'Brien
Yes international, 2006

> Sidhas like to sit around and talk about 
> these experiences in the domes as if they 
> had some intrinsic value. 
>
Maybe you got your domes mixed up: there's no
talking allowed in the Patanjali Dome. It's 
usually very quiet in the Maharishi Golden 
Dome at Radiance, Texas.

> But really they just reinforce the ego and 
> trap you. 
>
Maybe so.

> Even TMers who claim to be enlightened can't 
> stop this unfortunate pattern. They're glad 
> to jump on any opportunity to blab about 
> their egoic projections. It's pretty funny 
> to watch, but kinda sad as well, as these 
> people are usually adults.
>
Well, it's not just TMers who do this - it's 
very common for Trungpa's students to 'blab' 
about the egoic projections. In fact, the 
Trungpa himself has been accused of doing 
this many times when he was drunk on Smirnoff.

'The Buddhist Tantra World of the Trungpa Tulku'
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/tibet.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY went wrong

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:

> The attainment of the Self arises when the web of all
> desires comes to an end. How could a mind immersed in
> the pursuit of siddhis attain that?

There's a tricky flip side to this, though. Once the
siddhis have been obtained, in their full development,
there can by definition no longer be any desire *to*
obtain them; that desire has been fulfilled. (One
might also ask whether any lesser desires can remain
once the siddhis have been obtained. Don't the siddhis
mean automatic fulfillment of all desires? Would that
not mean the end of the "web of all desires"?)

I don't see that any of what Vaj quotes from the Yoga
Vasishtha should be taken to warn against the practice
of Patanjali's program as taught by MMY. The types of
situations the quotation discusses are too different.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY went wrong

On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:18 AM, WillyTex wrote:

> 
> 
> > > > The yoga-vasishtha is one example given:
> > > > 
> > > According to the founder, Vasubandhu, any 
> > > concept, when taken to extremes, will be 
> > > found to be self-contradictory, as the above 
> > > example proves.
> > >
> Vaj:
> > Why do you think I chose the primary text on 
> > Enlightenment and "higher states of 
> > consciousness" in the Shankaracharya 
> > tradition...?
> >
> Why do you think I pointed out that the verse
> you cited was self-contradictory?

I just figured you were confused again. The Marshy recommended his students 
didn't read Sanskrit literature, beyond what he explained about it, as it would 
just confuse them. You'd do well to take his advice.

First hand experience shows that practice of samyama on the siddhis induces 
delusions of grandeur. Sidhas like to sit around and talk about these 
experiences in the domes as if they had some intrinsic value. But really they 
just reinforce the ego and trap you. Even TMers who claim to be enlightened 
can't stop this unfortunate pattern. They're glad to jump on any opportunity to 
blab about their egoic projections. It's pretty funny to watch, but kinda sad 
as well, as these people are usually adults.

[FairfieldLife] Re: where MMY went wrong

2010-03-27 Thread WillyTex



> > > The yoga-vasishtha is one example given:
> > > 
> > According to the founder, Vasubandhu, any 
> > concept, when taken to extremes, will be 
> > found to be self-contradictory, as the above 
> > example proves.
> >
Vaj:
> Why do you think I chose the primary text on 
> Enlightenment and "higher states of 
> consciousness" in the Shankaracharya 
> tradition...?
>
Why do you think I pointed out that the verse
you cited was self-contradictory?

Apparently the Yoga Vasistha, like many of the 
works of Shankara, are simply restatements of 
the 'Consciousness Only' (vijnanavada) in 
Buddhism and Kashmere Saivism.

Ken Wilber is in agreement with the Vijnana 
doctrine propounded by Vasubandhu - Wilber 
believes that reality is ultimately a non-dual 
union of emptiness and form, with form being 
innately subject to development over time.

All of Wilber's AQAL categories  quadrants, 
lines, levels, states, and types  relate to 
relative truth in the two truths doctrine of 
Buddhism, to which he subscribes.

According to Wilber, none of these relative 
levels are true in an absolute sense: only 
formless awareness, "the simple feeling of
being," exists absolutely.

Read more:

'The Spectrum of Consciousness'
By Ken Wilber
Quest Books, 1993

Re: [FairfieldLife] Republican even in death

2010-03-27 Thread gullible fool


 
The Democratic party during this guy's era was basically what the Republican 
party is today.
 
"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi/Guruji

2010-03-27 Thread TurquoiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Yep, the blonde bombshell in the audience front row at the 
> Morningstar meeting?  Incredible alpha. Trivedi pluck her 
> out of the whole group and walked out with her in particular 
> at the end of the meeting. Surely was scientific. Wow.

More seriously, Buck, although I have never met
either of the people cited, this sounds a lot
like "like recognizes like" to me.

Attractive blonde who sits in the front row when
visiting teachers hit town. People notice her and
give her their attention. Even the guy up onstage
notices her and gives her his attention. The guy
who IMO is performing the same minor occult siddhi
she is.

In my experience there are two basic types of shakti.

( There are many more variants than two, of course,
but for the purposes of this rap I'm talkin' high-
level classifications here. ) 

There is the shakti of samadhi, which I would char-
acterize as silent, intentless, and non-overwhelming.
It doesn't attract or seek your attention; it has no
need for your attention. It is just silence flowing.
In my experience this form of shakti is transformative, 
and can have lasting benefits.

Then there is the shakti of the occult. In the Rama
trip we used to call it "pushing it out." I would 
characterize this form of shakti as non-silent, drip-
ping with intent, and potentially overwhelming. 

"Pushing it out" is what women who walk into a room
and instantly cause every head in the room to turn
in their direction and every pair of eyes in the 
room lock onto them do. It's also what some teachers 
do onstage. IMO this form of shakti is not tranform-
ative in any lasting sense and can actually be 
debilitating. 

Think about the word "attractive."

What is it that the person "pushing it out" is 
trying to ATTRACT?

Your attention. Your energy. 

As opposed to the person just sitting in samadhi 
and radiating that energy out silently with no 
intent behind it. That's a very different thing 
in my experience from merely pushing it out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi Guruji vs. Master John Douglas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey 
 wrote:
>
> Another EPIC FAIL by authfiend.

Gee, that's funny, I thought it was Curtis's attack on
Buck that was an EPIC FAIL. Guess you didn't, huh?

> She coulda just called him a "poopy-pants" up
> front and got it over with, possibly saving 49
> more posts.

Naah. This was just a quickie. If Curtis wants to defend 
himself at length, that's fine with me. I've said my 
piece.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfiend" 
 wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
"curtisdeltablues"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" 
 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yep this all reads well like some lot of FFL 
> > > > pharisaical sophistry.
> > > 
> > > You don't understand the meaning of the terms you
> > > are using.  You have successfully conveyed a vaguely 
> > > pejorative intention and used some Jesusy sounding 
> > > words.  I'm surprised you didn't drop in a thus or 
> > > thou to complete the illusion that you were speaking 
> > > to us from an old book.
> > 
> > Curtis demonstrates in his response that he is 
> > practiced in the use of pharasaical sophistry.
> > 
>  rant>

See, this is what's so interesting about your attacks: You 
never even try to address the argument, whatever it may 
be. That makes one just a bit suspicious that you couldn't 
if you tried, so instead you resort to, um, conveying a 
vaguely pejorative intention. One might *almost* think you 
don't *understand* the argument but just go into attack 
mode by reflex.

I mean, were *you* surprised that Buck didn't drop in a 
thus or a thou to complete Curtis's illusion that Buck was 
speaking to us from an old book?

> First, note she is not even a party to the conversation.

Hey! You weren't either!

> I guess she is, once again, just itching to start
> another fight.

Naah. I made my point.

You wanna start one with me?

> Second, note her comment to Sal earlier in the posting 
> week.
> 
> Judy wrote: "Hey, Sal, don't you think you should 
> apologize to Lurk for having falsely accused him of 
> lying about some posts you made (and falsely denied 
> making) before you go after him again?"

So you agree that Sal should apologize to Lurk?

> Hey Judy, don't you think you should apologize to Curtis 
> for having twice posted YOU WISHED HE WAS DEAD before 
> you go antagonizing him again?

Naah. Curtis knows what I meant. He may have misunderstood 
at first, but I cleared it up for him. Maybe if you ask
him nicely, he'll explain it to you.

Anyway, I didn't lie like Sal did about not having made 
posts that I actually did make, nor did I accuse Curtis of 
lying about them. So that's kind of irrelevant.

Plus which, you never asked Barry if he thought he should
apologize to Raunchy and me when he wished we were dead. 
Little inconsistent there, aren't ya?

Neither did Curtis, BTW. But then Curtis doesn't think 
it's kosher to defend one person from another's
depredations (unless the depredator is God, of course).
But *certainly* not if the depredator is his friend. Then 
he attacks the person his friend has attempted to 
depredate for mentioning the attempted depredation.

Anyway, here you are, defending Curtis from my 
depredations. Are you afraid he can't defend himself?

> At least OffKilter and Shemp had the good sense to 
> unsubscribe after making complete fools of themselves. 

Gee, do you really think Curtis needs to unsubscribe? I
don't. (And that isn't why Shemp unsubscribed, but that's
another story.)

> But ooh nooo!!! Judy has to be all "I'm 
> invincible. It's only a flesh wound."

Who dost thou think thou art, Chuck Norris? Come out
from behind that tree!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivedi/Guruji

2010-03-27 Thread TurquoiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Yep, the blonde bombshell in the audience front row at the 
> Morningstar meeting?  Incredible alpha.  

See? This is why I stick around on FFL. 
Where else would you hear the term 'alpha'
used as a euphemism for tits?

> Trivedi pluck her out of the whole group and walked out 
> with her in particular at the end of the meeting. Surely 
> was scientific. Wow.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Republican even in death