[FairfieldLife] Re: Madhusuudana and As-It-Is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Some prefer (the division of this text anaadimatparam into) the words anaadi and matparam. The meaning (of matparam then) is, mat to Me, param, the superior, (who am the qualified Brahman). However, it is wrong to explain (the phrase as), `That (brahman) of which I am the supreme power call Vaasudeva', because, the context being that of presenting the unconditioned Brahman, it is out of place to speak of the possession of power. I seem to recall Shankara thinks that the redundant suffix 'mat' is there for metrical reasons only, because the main metre of the Giitaa, anuSTup (anuSTubh) has 4 times 8 syllables: a-naa-di-ma-tpa-raM bra-hma (an-aa-di-mat-pa-raM brah-ma)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Perhaps a tad over-stated from my side, Nabs! But all metaphysics aside, I have found Bevan's management style at MIU/MUM to be absolutely appalling. I believe he, and he alone, is responsible for the failure to increase the number of students at MUM and also why there is such a small number of people in the domes. How convienient to give the blame for the lack of participation to a foreigner rather than pointing to the obvious fact that the americans are spiritually immature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
MMY BG CH4 V14 Commentary ...knowledge of the essential nature of the divine Being, personified by Lord Krishna, who is beyond the relative and the Absolute, beyond the Unity of Being and the diversity of creation, but holds within Himself the fullness of both. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: right, of course. It's true that AC Bhaktivedanta put Krishna first, ahead of the impersonal Absolute. That's why I discard his teachings as being false, along with that other dualist from Barsana Dham. But one can choose to retain a copy of false teachings, since there's plenty of that in the Bible (imo). For the record, I'm a Buddhist foremost; and fully respect - in advance - any questions/criticisms and objections the Skeptics may have regarding any pov whatsoever. For those demanding proof of what's true vs false,; I'll get back to you later on that. My first Buddhist teacher Hsuan Hua probably has never read the Gita. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Who keeps a copy of As-It-Is around except Hari K. or raw beginners who got their copy at the airport in 1976? cardemaister: I think everyone, even down in Texas, should have a copy of it! It would be more likely for someone 'down in Texas' to have a copy, than up in Finland! That's becuase here in Texas we have numerous ISKCON Temples and other Vaishnava seats of learning where people can actually study these ideas and put them into practice, instead of just reading them in a book. But, A.C.'s edition is one of the few editions of the Bhagavad Gita that give the original Sanskrit, a translation, the word-for-word transliteration AND an erudite purport. In the Vaishnava Vedanta tradition expounded in Vyasa's Bhagavad Gita, Ishvara is equated with the Transcendental Absolute. Beginning on page 9 of his introduction to Bhagavad Gita-As It ia, Swami Bhaktivedanta explains in copious detail how The position of Isvara is that of supreme conciousness. And, on page 10 ...the Paramatman, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is living in everyone's heart as Isvara... Read more: Subject: TM: The Highest First! Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: June 17, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/26k5vl5 Subject: TM in the Hindu Scriptures Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation Date: August 26, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/2dlbyoz
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
Nabs, And who, pray tell, are the countries that are spiritually mature? On this planet there are none. Shambhala? Hah! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Perhaps a tad over-stated from my side, Nabs! But all metaphysics aside, I have found Bevan's management style at MIU/MUM to be absolutely appalling. I believe he, and he alone, is responsible for the failure to increase the number of students at MUM and also why there is such a small number of people in the domes. How convienient to give the blame for the lack of participation to a foreigner rather than pointing to the obvious fact that the americans are spiritually immature.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
Initiation, Solar and Human Alice Bailey, et.al. 1922 (channeled by fantasy masters) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: As long as the cultists, aka Bevan and his toadies, have nothing to do with this, then there is an actual chance that it might occur. I see Bevan as the only reason MIU/MUM failed. His over-controlling, anti-intellectual stance towards all aspects of student life is more in line with Pol Pot or Mao than any other university president. As long as the students are thinking properly, all is well. That's a surprizingly fundamentalistic and narrowminded view you are taking here Peter. What I hear from those regularily going to Fairfield from the USA and from around the world to participate in CCP it's quite the contrary. Bevan is very much appreciated and loved for his generous insights. By people who just hear him speak from time to time. Many faculty dreaded his visits to campus, because he had a ham-fisted managerial style. Bevan was perhaps Maharishis first real western Disciple. He never budged, left or spaced out. He does deserve credit for working so hard, carrying a huge load of responsibility, and hanging in there despite regular tongue-lashings from Maharishi. In his work Bevan has placed a very strong application for Masterhood. My sources says it is already granted and that Bevan will receive his 3'rd Initiation shortly. OK, don't call me an idiot for not knowing this, but what are the 3nd and 4th initiations, who are your sources, when did they tell you this, and were they referring specifically to Bevan? Did they know him personally or are they tuning into him esoterically. Do you know your sources personally or are you tuning into them esoterically?
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
jeff: MMY BG CH4 V14 Commentary... Lord Krishna is the 'Transcendental Person', mentioned in Bhagavad Gita. That means that He is beyond, or transcendental to, phenomenon - the relative world of change. So, since Krishna is the Absolute, he is in fact 'indescribablly different', (Acyenta Bheda Bheda). Many of the Vedantists who composed the Vedic literature were dualists or qualified-dualists, or non-dualists, and others were mixed dualists and qualified-nondualists. While all the Upanishadic thinkers were transcendentalists, not all of them ascribed to the Advaita philosophy of non-dualism. In fact, there is good reason to doubt the Advaita of the Adi Shankaracharya. Because all of these good fellows (sadhus) do no ascribe to the illusion theory, 'Maya' proposed by the Adi. This Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion. Isha Upanishad: The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant golden lid; that do thou remove O'Fosterer, for the law of the Truth, for sight. According to Sri Aurobindo, the term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, the Paramatman or Brahman. Ishvara is the supreme controller. According to Isha, those who are engaged in the worship of the demi-Gods enter into the darkest region of ignorance, and still more so do the worshipers of the impersonal Absolute alone. The Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows nescience side-by-side with the Transcendent, can pass beyond repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of immortality. Work cited: 'Isha Upanishad' v. 2 Translation by Sri Aurobindo Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust Pondicherry, India 1914 ...knowledge of the essential nature of the divine Being, personified by Lord Krishna, who is beyond the relative and the Absolute, beyond the Unity of Being and the diversity of creation, but holds within Himself the fullness of both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jeff.evans60 jeff.evan...@... wrote: MMY BG CH4 V14 Commentary ...knowledge of the essential nature of the divine Being, personified by Lord Krishna, who is beyond the relative and the Absolute, beyond the Unity of Being and the diversity of creation, but holds within Himself the fullness of both. Thanks, Jeff. In Love and God Maharishi expresses the nature of divine Being beautifully and poetically: My Lord Thou art in Thy Fullness of Eternal Being Even when Thyself is playing the role Of temporary, phenomenal existence. The ever-changing world And the never-changing Self, The relative and the Absolute, The manifest and the Unmanifest, Both are the expressions Of Thy Eternal Glory, Both reveal only Thy Eternal Grace, Both are the modes Of Thy True Nature. Thy True Nature My Lord Is neither Absolute nor relative, For it is Absolute and relative Both together. It is mysteriously both together. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: right, of course. It's true that AC Bhaktivedanta put Krishna first, ahead of the impersonal Absolute. That's why I discard his teachings as being false, along with that other dualist from Barsana Dham. But one can choose to retain a copy of false teachings, since there's plenty of that in the Bible (imo). For the record, I'm a Buddhist foremost; and fully respect - in advance - any questions/criticisms and objections the Skeptics may have regarding any pov whatsoever. For those demanding proof of what's true vs false,; I'll get back to you later on that. My first Buddhist teacher Hsuan Hua probably has never read the Gita. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Who keeps a copy of As-It-Is around except Hari K. or raw beginners who got their copy at the airport in 1976? cardemaister: I think everyone, even down in Texas, should have a copy of it! It would be more likely for someone 'down in Texas' to have a copy, than up in Finland! That's becuase here in Texas we have numerous ISKCON Temples and other Vaishnava seats of learning where people can actually study these ideas and put them into practice, instead of just reading them in a book. But, A.C.'s edition is one of the few editions of the Bhagavad Gita that give the original Sanskrit, a translation, the word-for-word transliteration AND an erudite purport. In the Vaishnava Vedanta tradition expounded in Vyasa's Bhagavad Gita, Ishvara is equated with the Transcendental Absolute. Beginning on page 9 of his introduction to Bhagavad Gita-As It ia, Swami Bhaktivedanta explains in copious detail how The position of Isvara is that of supreme conciousness. And, on page 10 ...the Paramatman, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is living in everyone's heart as Isvara... Read more: Subject: TM: The Highest First! Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: June 17, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/26k5vl5 Subject: TM in the Hindu Scriptures Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation Date: August 26, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/2dlbyoz
[FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
I figured that would get your attention as a Subject line. :-) It seems to be a TV series. I had never heard of it before someone on Facebook posted this link today: http://abc.go.com/shows/wife-swap/episode-guide/cyboranowenladino/517372?page=1 Read the episode synopsis on this page. I reposted the text below but it won't really read quite as well without the photo to go along with the description. Then, will someone please take pity on an old ex-pat and tell me what this series is all about? It seems to be on ABC, and the IMDB describes it as a reality show. But I'm curious as to *whose* version of reality we're talkin', given the description below: The Owen-Ladino Family A fun and flamboyant metropolitan couple who teach classes as relationship superheroes swap with a serious and strict mom and dad who moved to the country to protect their kids from the influences of the city. Look... there... up in the sky... Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's the superhuman Owen-Ladinos of New York. Shanti (formerly known as Patti) and her fiancé, Arjuna (formerly known as Harold), are a spandex-wearing superhero couple whose mission is to rid the world of boring relationships. The Owen-Ladinos hold relationship and superhero workshops to bring out the hero within. Their closets are filled with sparkly costumes and wigs, and they wear their superhero outfits all the time, whether it's to promote their workshops or go out on the town. But Shanti's 15-year-old daughter, Savannah, is embarrassed by their antics and mostly keeps to herself, staying in her room. Savannah has no real chores besides keeping her room clean, and although her relationship with her mother is close, neither she nor Arjuna feels the need to get to know one another -- despite the fact that Arjuna is about to marry her mother.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap I figured that would get your attention as a Subject line. :-) It seems to be a TV series. I had never heard of it before someone on Facebook posted this link today: http://abc.go.com/shows/wife-swap/episode-guide/cyboranowenladino/517372?pag e=1 Read the episode synopsis on this page. I reposted the text below but it won't really read quite as well without the photo to go along with the description. Then, will someone please take pity on an old ex-pat and tell me what this series is all about? It's about swapping wives for a week and watching the sparks fly. No sex involved. A couple of years ago, the producer of Wife Swap wanted to find a meditating couple to participate in the show. She got in touch with me through FFL. I tried to recruit a suitable couple. The couple would get $20,000 and I would get $1,000 for finding them. I found one couple who was interested who lived in Vedic City. The producer wanted people who were really into the Movement who would contrast sharply with the couple with whom they would swap wives. But the couple I found felt obligated to check with Movement authorities, who told them not to do. So I found another suitable couple, but somehow the whole thing fizzled out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV7zBvfc2mQfeature=related Ariel is the youngest of King Triton's seven daughters. She is shown as being adventurous and curious about the world of humans, a fascination which angers her father as merfolk are forbidden from making contact with the human world. She is the Princess of Wishes. Her best friend is a fish named Flounder, and she develops a close relationship with a crab named Sebastian, Triton's court composer. Ariel salvages human items and keeps them in a secret grotto as part of her collection. No, really.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
Wow! That's hilarious, Rick. I occasionally watch it because it usually has a good ending with people growing in greater tolerance and understanding of one another. It would have been interesting to see this with a ru couple and a townie couple! Yikes. --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 11:15 AM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap I figured that would get your attention as a Subject line. :-) It seems to be a TV series. I had never heard of it before someone on Facebook posted this link today: http://abc.go.com/shows/wife-swap/episode-guide/cyboranowenladino/517372?page=1 Read the episode synopsis on this page. I reposted the text below but it won't really read quite as well without the photo to go along with the description. Then, will someone please take pity on an old ex-pat and tell me what this series is all about? It’s about swapping wives for a week and watching the sparks fly. No sex involved. A couple of years ago, the producer of Wife Swap wanted to find a meditating couple to participate in the show. She got in touch with me through FFL. I tried to recruit a suitable couple. The couple would get $20,000 and I would get $1,000 for finding them. I found one couple who was interested who lived in Vedic City. The producer wanted people who were really into the Movement who would contrast sharply with the couple with whom they would swap wives. But the couple I found felt obligated to check with Movement authorities, who told them not to do. So I found another suitable couple, but somehow the whole thing fizzled out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Madhusuudana and As-It-Is
Shankara, 3.12: Here, some split up the phrase anaadimatparam as anaadi and matparam because, if the word anaadimat is taken as a bahuvriihi compound, then the suffix mat (matup) becomes redundant, which is undesirable. Translator Svami Gambhiiraananda: That which has no (a) beginning (aadi). Matup is used to denote possession. Since the idea of possession is already implied in anaadi, therefore matup, if added after it, becomes redundant. The commentator (Shankara) accepts anaadimat as a nañ-tatpurus.a compound. If, however , the bahuvriihi is insisted on, then the mat after anaadi should be taken as completing the number of syllables needed for versification. So, mat need not be compounded with param. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Some prefer (the division of this text anaadimatparam into) the words anaadi and matparam. The meaning (of matparam then) is, mat to Me, param, the superior, (who am the qualified Brahman). However, it is wrong to explain (the phrase as), `That (brahman) of which I am the supreme power call Vaasudeva', because, the context being that of presenting the unconditioned Brahman, it is out of place to speak of the possession of power. I seem to recall Shankara thinks that the redundant suffix 'mat' is there for metrical reasons only, because the main metre of the Giitaa, anuSTup (anuSTubh) has 4 times 8 syllables: a-naa-di-ma-tpa-raM bra-hma (an-aa-di-mat-pa-raM brah-ma)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
emptybill: Initiation, Solar and Human Alice Bailey, et.al. 1922 (channeled by fantasy masters) Works containing the prefatory 'Extract from a Statement by the Tibetan', generally taken to indicate the book was a received work: 'Initiation, Human and Solar' By Alice A. Bailey AXUM, 2008
RE: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap Wow! That's hilarious, Rick. I occasionally watch it because it usually has a good ending with people growing in greater tolerance and understanding of one another. It would have been interesting to see this with a ru couple and a townie couple! Yikes. The person who told them not to do it also told people not to attend the wedding of a good friend who happened to be getting married by Amma. It’s sad that people in their 40’s and 50’s feel the need to ask permission to do such things. --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 11:15 AM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap I figured that would get your attention as a Subject line. :-) It seems to be a TV series. I had never heard of it before someone on Facebook posted this link today: http://abc.go.com/shows/wife-swap/episode-guide/cyboranowenladino/517372?page=1 Read the episode synopsis on this page. I reposted the text below but it won't really read quite as well without the photo to go along with the description. Then, will someone please take pity on an old ex-pat and tell me what this series is all about? It’s about swapping wives for a week and watching the sparks fly. No sex involved. A couple of years ago, the producer of Wife Swap wanted to find a meditating couple to participate in the show. She got in touch with me through FFL. I tried to recruit a suitable couple. The couple would get $20,000 and I would get $1,000 for finding them. I found one couple who was interested who lived in Vedic City. The producer wanted people who were really into the Movement who would contrast sharply with the couple with whom they would swap wives. But the couple I found felt obligated to check with Movement authorities, who told them not to do. So I found another suitable couple, but somehow the whole thing fizzled out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Wow! That's hilarious, Rick. I occasionally watch it because it usually has a good ending with people growing in greater tolerance and understanding of one another. It would have been interesting to see this with a ru couple and a townie couple! Yikes. The person who told them not to do it also told people not to attend the wedding of a good friend who happened to be getting married by Amma. It’s sad that people in their 40’s and 50’s feel the need to ask permission to do such things. Why not you guys, Rick? A former-ru couple might have to do if the real thing couldn't be found. $20,000?? Easy money! Sal To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
The essential triune nature of Being is easily understood by the analogy of the crystal ball. A blue crystal ball exposed to the Sun reflects the light of the sun, which is now blue light being modified by the color of the crystal, the blue reflected light within this crystal ball is Krishna, Christ, Brahma or the many other names given to it (MMY's personal God). The crystal ball itself is symbolic of Prakriti or Mother nature, the Sun represents Brahman, the eternal absolute 'unmanifest' Brahman, to know Brahman is to become Brahman. Purman adah, Purnam idam is the compliment MMY gave to Guru Dev in the book Love and God to illustrate that Guru Dev had achieved the fullness of both, the manifested nature of Being (the blue light) and the unmanifest Brahman (the Sun). Essentially Prakriti is Maya or what MMY has called Mithya (seeming). http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/definitions/mithyA.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jeff.evans60 jeff.evan...@... wrote: MMY BG CH4 V14 Commentary ...knowledge of the essential nature of the divine Being, personified by Lord Krishna, who is beyond the relative and the Absolute, beyond the Unity of Being and the diversity of creation, but holds within Himself the fullness of both. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: right, of course. It's true that AC Bhaktivedanta put Krishna first, ahead of the impersonal Absolute. That's why I discard his teachings as being false, along with that other dualist from Barsana Dham. But one can choose to retain a copy of false teachings, since there's plenty of that in the Bible (imo). For the record, I'm a Buddhist foremost; and fully respect - in advance - any questions/criticisms and objections the Skeptics may have regarding any pov whatsoever. For those demanding proof of what's true vs false,; I'll get back to you later on that. My first Buddhist teacher Hsuan Hua probably has never read the Gita. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Who keeps a copy of As-It-Is around except Hari K. or raw beginners who got their copy at the airport in 1976? cardemaister: I think everyone, even down in Texas, should have a copy of it! It would be more likely for someone 'down in Texas' to have a copy, than up in Finland! That's becuase here in Texas we have numerous ISKCON Temples and other Vaishnava seats of learning where people can actually study these ideas and put them into practice, instead of just reading them in a book. But, A.C.'s edition is one of the few editions of the Bhagavad Gita that give the original Sanskrit, a translation, the word-for-word transliteration AND an erudite purport. In the Vaishnava Vedanta tradition expounded in Vyasa's Bhagavad Gita, Ishvara is equated with the Transcendental Absolute. Beginning on page 9 of his introduction to Bhagavad Gita-As It ia, Swami Bhaktivedanta explains in copious detail how The position of Isvara is that of supreme conciousness. And, on page 10 ...the Paramatman, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is living in everyone's heart as Isvara... Read more: Subject: TM: The Highest First! Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: June 17, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/26k5vl5 Subject: TM in the Hindu Scriptures Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation Date: August 26, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/2dlbyoz
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: emptybill: Initiation, Solar and Human Alice Bailey, et.al. 1922 (channeled by fantasy masters) Works containing the prefatory 'Extract from a Statement by the Tibetan', generally taken to indicate the book was a received work: 'Initiation, Human and Solar' By Alice A. Bailey AXUM, 2008 February 26, 1995 The Medium With a Message By Edward Hower; THE MASTERS REVEALED Madame Blavatsky and the Myth of the Great White Lodge. By K. Paul Johnson. Illustrated. 288 pp. Albany: State University of New York Press. Cloth, $49.50. Paper, $16.95. HELENA PETROVNA BLAVATSKY, a Russian aristocrat who sometimes made her living as a circus bareback rider (she claimed) and seance medium, was 42 when she arrived penniless in New York in 1873. Within a few years she all but took over the American Spiritualist movement, helped found the Theosophical Society and in 1879 set off to expand its activities in India. Her books about mysticism are still in print a century later. Previous works about the mysterious Madame Blavatsky are full of conflicting information, since she left behind a trail of concocted legends. The Masters Revealed, by K. Paul Johnson, strips away most of the fantasy and provides a wealth of new material. Much of Madame Blavatsky's fame rests on her claim that she received her ideas in letters sent through a kind of astral postal system by members of the Great White Lodge, a group of Masters in India and Tibet. Theosophical writers have defended her sources vehemently. Skeptics have painted her as a great fraud. Mr. Johnson, impressed by her encyclopedic scholarship, has another theory. He maintains that she gathered material for her books not only by reading the works of the leading occult figures of her time, but also by knowing them personally. Her Masters, he says, were actual people; she made up astral personalities for them to conceal their real identities. Mr. Johnson, who previously wrote In Search of the Masters, identifies a network of learned acquaintances that Madame Blavatsky cultivated in Europe and Asia from the 1850's to the 1870's. He also traces her travel in India in the 1880's, when she and her Theosophical companions established another secret network of prominent occultists. Why was she so secretive about her sources? Because, Mr. Johnson writes, these people were involved not only in spiritual movements but also in clandestine political causes. Some were Freemasons, supporting Garibaldi in Italy. Others were Indian political and religious leaders plotting to drive out the British. Blavatsky, who loved intrigue as much as the occult, emerges from this book as a pioneer anti-colonialist. Blavatsky's Masters supposedly wrote not only to her but also to several leaders of the British community in India. These letters, widely published in the press, helped to spread the influence of the Theosophical Society and to disseminate ideas that would make the West sympathetic toward the religions, cultures and political aspirations of India. Though Blavatsky denied writing the letters herself, Mr. Johnson's research into their origins makes it clear that no one else could have done it, or done it so convincingly. In 1884, Richard Hodgson of the British Society for Psychical Research went to India to investigate Blavatsky and called her one of the most accomplished, ingenious and interesting impostors in history -- and a Russian spy to boot. Hodgson's report destroyed her career in India, but she revived it in London, where her admirers included Yeats and Gandhi. She died there in 1891. The Theosophical Society has continued to prosper. Was she a spy? Probably not. Despite her links with Russian occultists, Mr. Johnson has found no evidence that she was ever in the employ of the Czar's intelligence service. He has, however, unearthed a letter in which she unsuccessfully offered her services to the Russian Government as a secret agent. K. Paul Johnson's book is a real original. In straightforward, readable prose, it presents a panorama of heroes, heroines and eccentrics. Tracing Madame Blavatsky's secret life, it often reads like an occult whodunit about a woman who was, in fact, as fascinating as the legends she created about herself. Helena Blavatsky and Henry Steel Olcott arrived in Colombo, in what was then known as Ceylon, currently known as Sri Lanka on May 16, 1880. Blavatsky and Olcott took five precepts at the Wijayananda Viharaya located in Galle on May 19, 1880.[15] On that day Olcott and Blavatsky were formally acknowledged as Buddhists, although Olcott noted that they had previously declared themselves Buddhists, while still living in America.[16]During their time in Ceylon, Olcott and Blavatsky strove to revive Buddhism within the country. Alice Ann Bailey (June 16, 1880 December 15, 1949), known as Alice A. Bailey or AAB,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Madhusuudana and As-It-Is
I seem to recall Shankara thinks that the redundant suffix 'mat' is there for metrical reasons only, because the main metre of the Giitaa, anuSTup (anuSTubh) has 4 times 8 syllables: a-naa-di-ma-tpa-raM bra-hma (an-aa-di-mat-pa-raM brah-ma) emptybill : Shankara, 3.12... Bhagavad Gita 3.12: 'istan bhogan hi vo deva dasyante yajna-bhavitah tair dattan apradayaibhyo yo bhunkte stena eva sah' In charge of the various necessities of life, the demigods, being satisfied by the performance of yajna [sacrifice], will supply all necessities to you. But he who enjoys such gifts without offering them to the demigods in return is certainly a thief. 'Introduction to Bhagavad Gita' By Sri A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada http://tinyurl.com/2wgxpkr
[FairfieldLife] the best thing I read today
Greg Gutfeld: I’m raising money to build a Muslim gay bar next to the Ground Zero mosque http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/09/greg-gutfeld-im-raising-money-to-build-a-muslim-gay-bar-next-to-the-ground-zero-mosque/ posted at 7:07 pm on August 9, 2010 by Allahpundit printer-friendly Andy Levy assures me that he’s quite serious. Media narrative on the GZ mosque: Shining beacon of liberal values bursting through the overcast skies of American intolerance. Media narrative on the GG gay bar: Dangerous provocation that needlessly inflames cultural tensions in the ostensible service of liberal values. How very insensitive. I’m announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space. This is not a joke. I’ve already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance. As you know, the Muslim faith doesn’t look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I’m building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world. The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps – but still want to dance. Not an idea that would play well with Christians or Jews vis-a-vis property adjacent to a church or temple, but oh well: If we’re going to celebrate tolerance regardless of the sensitivities of the surrounding area, let’s celebrate! And the best part? Because, as we’ve been assured many times, the “Park51″ cultural center will be a model of moderation, gay Muslim men don’t have to worry about being seen entering Gut’s establishment. Flaunt it all you want, fellas; you’re in Moderate Town, U.S.A., on that block. I look forward to the congratulatory Mike Bloomberg press conference.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
wgm4u: Purman adah, Purnam idam Om ! That (world) is a complete whole. This (world) too is a complete whole. From the complete whole only, the (other) complete whole rose. Even after removing the complete whole from the (other) complete whole, still the complete whole remains unaltered and undisturbed. 'Isha Upanishad' http://www.vedarahasya.net/isha.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Right Wing Zombies Rate Jimmy Carter as Top Gangster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Unbelievable. Well, reading some of the posts here by the FFL righties why are we not surprised? I nominate the American right wing zombies to be the leaders of the parade down the road to Idiocracy. http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0814/carter-obama-top-list-gangsters-killers/ I would like to see Jimmy Carter's response to this, if anyone finds one. The guy could occasionally be very funny, and I can't see him as having anything but fun with having scored higher on the Badass Scale than Benedict Arnold, Timothy McVeigh and Nancy Pelosi, all on the same day.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
Fantasy Masters? Is that like Fantasy Football? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Initiation, Solar and Human Alice Bailey, et.al. 1922 (channeled by fantasy masters) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: As long as the cultists, aka Bevan and his toadies, have nothing to do with this, then there is an actual chance that it might occur. I see Bevan as the only reason MIU/MUM failed. His over-controlling, anti-intellectual stance towards all aspects of student life is more in line with Pol Pot or Mao than any other university president. As long as the students are thinking properly, all is well. That's a surprizingly fundamentalistic and narrowminded view you are taking here Peter. What I hear from those regularily going to Fairfield from the USA and from around the world to participate in CCP it's quite the contrary. Bevan is very much appreciated and loved for his generous insights. By people who just hear him speak from time to time. Many faculty dreaded his visits to campus, because he had a ham-fisted managerial style. Bevan was perhaps Maharishis first real western Disciple. He never budged, left or spaced out. He does deserve credit for working so hard, carrying a huge load of responsibility, and hanging in there despite regular tongue-lashings from Maharishi. In his work Bevan has placed a very strong application for Masterhood. My sources says it is already granted and that Bevan will receive his 3'rd Initiation shortly. OK, don't call me an idiot for not knowing this, but what are the 3nd and 4th initiations, who are your sources, when did they tell you this, and were they referring specifically to Bevan? Did they know him personally or are they tuning into him esoterically. Do you know your sources personally or are you tuning into them esoterically?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Madhusuudana and As-It-Is
Yep, you're right. Thanks Willy, my typo. Citation should be BG 13.12 not 3.12 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: I seem to recall Shankara thinks that the redundant suffix 'mat' is there for metrical reasons only, because the main metre of the Giitaa, anuSTup (anuSTubh) has 4 times 8 syllables: a-naa-di-ma-tpa-raM bra-hma (an-aa-di-mat-pa-raM brah-ma) emptybill : Shankara, 3.12... Bhagavad Gita 3.12: 'istan bhogan hi vo deva dasyante yajna-bhavitah tair dattan apradayaibhyo yo bhunkte stena eva sah' In charge of the various necessities of life, the demigods, being satisfied by the performance of yajna [sacrifice], will supply all necessities to you. But he who enjoys such gifts without offering them to the demigods in return is certainly a thief. 'Introduction to Bhagavad Gita' By Sri A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada http://tinyurl.com/2wgxpkr
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
Fantasy as in channeled fantasy or better yet, the fantasy channel. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Fantasy Masters? Is that like Fantasy Football? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Initiation, Solar and Human Alice Bailey, et.al. 1922 (channeled by fantasy masters) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: As long as the cultists, aka Bevan and his toadies, have nothing to do with this, then there is an actual chance that it might occur. I see Bevan as the only reason MIU/MUM failed. His over-controlling, anti-intellectual stance towards all aspects of student life is more in line with Pol Pot or Mao than any other university president. As long as the students are thinking properly, all is well. That's a surprizingly fundamentalistic and narrowminded view you are taking here Peter. What I hear from those regularily going to Fairfield from the USA and from around the world to participate in CCP it's quite the contrary. Bevan is very much appreciated and loved for his generous insights. By people who just hear him speak from time to time. Many faculty dreaded his visits to campus, because he had a ham-fisted managerial style. Bevan was perhaps Maharishis first real western Disciple. He never budged, left or spaced out. He does deserve credit for working so hard, carrying a huge load of responsibility, and hanging in there despite regular tongue-lashings from Maharishi. In his work Bevan has placed a very strong application for Masterhood. My sources says it is already granted and that Bevan will receive his 3'rd Initiation shortly. OK, don't call me an idiot for not knowing this, but what are the 3nd and 4th initiations, who are your sources, when did they tell you this, and were they referring specifically to Bevan? Did they know him personally or are they tuning into him esoterically. Do you know your sources personally or are you tuning into them esoterically?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
I'd rather see the book channeled by the Bass Masters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3TnyeuaXY Especially the chapter on the hidden esoteric meaning of the preferred method of preparing bass after you've caught it, the Bassomatic: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/bassomatic/229056 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Fantasy Masters? Is that like Fantasy Football? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Initiation, Solar and Human Alice Bailey, et.al. 1922 (channeled by fantasy masters) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: As long as the cultists, aka Bevan and his toadies, have nothing to do with this, then there is an actual chance that it might occur. I see Bevan as the only reason MIU/MUM failed. His over-controlling, anti-intellectual stance towards all aspects of student life is more in line with Pol Pot or Mao than any other university president. As long as the students are thinking properly, all is well. That's a surprizingly fundamentalistic and narrowminded view you are taking here Peter. What I hear from those regularily going to Fairfield from the USA and from around the world to participate in CCP it's quite the contrary. Bevan is very much appreciated and loved for his generous insights. By people who just hear him speak from time to time. Many faculty dreaded his visits to campus, because he had a ham-fisted managerial style. Bevan was perhaps Maharishis first real western Disciple. He never budged, left or spaced out. He does deserve credit for working so hard, carrying a huge load of responsibility, and hanging in there despite regular tongue-lashings from Maharishi. In his work Bevan has placed a very strong application for Masterhood. My sources says it is already granted and that Bevan will receive his 3'rd Initiation shortly. OK, don't call me an idiot for not knowing this, but what are the 3nd and 4th initiations, who are your sources, when did they tell you this, and were they referring specifically to Bevan? Did they know him personally or are they tuning into him esoterically. Do you know your sources personally or are you tuning into them esoterically?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Joe wrote: Fantasy Masters? Is that like Fantasy Football? WaitI'm getting a message from Dhwal Kool, Joe's Camel's cousin... No, it not the same. Fantasy football is much more real. -Dhwal Kool, Smokin' Ascended Master
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:49 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I figured that would get your attention as a Subject line. :-) It seems to be a TV series. I had never heard of it before someone on Facebook posted this link today: I used to watch a similar show several years ago, called Trading Spouses. One of the best episodes was where a new age couple changes place with an hard-core Christian lady, self-proclaimed God Warrior Marguerite Perrin from Louisiana. I'm sure there are still blips all over YouTube and similar sites. A scary reminder of life beyond the Mason-Dixon line.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
That woman was insane! Woo...demons!! --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:32 PM On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:49 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I figured that would get your attention as a Subject line. :-) It seems to be a TV series. I had never heard of it before someone on Facebook posted this link today: I used to watch a similar show several years ago, called Trading Spouses. One of the best episodes was where a new age couple changes place with an hard-core Christian lady, self-proclaimed God Warrior Marguerite Perrin from Louisiana. I'm sure there are still blips all over YouTube and similar sites. A scary reminder of life beyond the Mason-Dixon line.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap That woman was insane! Woo...demons!! http://www.myspace.com/godwarrior4ever --- On Sun, 8/15/10, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wifeswap To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:32 PM On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:49 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I figured that would get your attention as a Subject line. :-) It seems to be a TV series. I had never heard of it before someone on Facebook posted this link today: I used to watch a similar show several years ago, called Trading Spouses. One of the best episodes was where a new age couple changes place with an hard-core Christian lady, self-proclaimed God Warrior Marguerite Perrin from Louisiana. I'm sure there are still blips all over YouTube and similar sites. A scary reminder of life beyond the Mason-Dixon line.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surveying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Nabs, And who, pray tell, are the countries that are spiritually mature? On this planet there are none. Shambhala? Hah! Mature ? None ofcourse, but there are degrees of stupidity and aggression.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Madhusuudana and As-It-Is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Shankara, 3.12: Here, some split up the phrase anaadimatparam as anaadi and matparam because, if the word anaadimat is taken as a bahuvriihi compound, then the suffix mat (matup) becomes redundant, which is undesirable. Translator Svami Gambhiiraananda: That which has no (a) beginning (aadi). Matup is used to denote possession. Since the idea of possession is already implied in anaadi, therefore matup, if added after it, becomes redundant. The commentator (Shankara) accepts anaadimat as a nañ-tatpurus.a compound. Well, heureka! Seems like I was (slightly misguided by A.C.) carrying coals to Newcastle! ROFL If, however , the bahuvriihi is insisted on, then the mat after anaadi should be taken as completing the number of syllables needed for versification. So, mat need not be compounded with param.
[FairfieldLife] Brain's neuroplasticity, stress, and meditation
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/keeping-your-prefrontal-c_b_679290.html?ref=fbsrc=sp Jeanne Ball, Writer, David Lynch Foundation Posted: August 11, 2010 06:58 PM Keeping Your Prefrontal Cortex Online: Neuroplasticity, Stress and Meditation As we go through life, our brain is always changing and adapting, say neuroscientists. During the first 18-20 years of life the brain is developing circuits that will form the basis of decision-making for a lifetime. Brain researchers have found that unhealthy lifestyles can inhibit normal brain development in adolescents and lead to impaired judgment and destructive behavior that carries over into adulthood. Traumatic experiences, alcohol and drug abuse, growing up neglected in a broken home, living in fear of violence and crime, or even a bad diet can interfere with development of the frontal lobes, the brain's executive system. This can cause behavioral problems. Brain researcher Dr. Fred Travis explains: When a person's frontal lobes don't develop properly, he lives a primitive life. He doesn't -- and can't -- plan ahead. His world is simplistic, and he can only deal with what's happening to him right now. Thinking becomes rigid: 'You're either with me or against me,' or 'Me and my gang are good, and everyone else is bad.' The good news: meditation improves brain function Brain researchers have also found that the brain can be changed in a positive direction through healthy lifestyle choices. This ability of the brain to reorganize its network of neurons is called neuroplasticity. Studies recently published in Cognitive Processing show that brain development can be enhanced -- not only during adolescence but at any age -- through the practice of meditation, and that different meditation techniques have different effects on the brain. For example, during the Transcendental Meditation (TM) technique there is increased alpha coherence in the brain's frontal areas. Within a few months of practice of the TM technique, says Travis, we see high levels of integration of frontal brain connectivity. And interestingly, that integration does not disappear after meditation. Increasingly and over time, this orderly brain functioning is found in daily activity. When the different parts of the brain are better integrated they work together more harmoniously -- our brain is healthier. Higher levels of brain integration are associated with higher moral reasoning, emotional stability and decreased anxiety, according to a 1981 study in the International Journal of Neuroscience. Research shows that world-class athletes have higher brain integration than controls. Brain integration is important because one's environment and circumstances are constantly shifting, and you need a flexible, integrated brain to successfully evaluate where you are, where you want to be and the necessary steps to get there. Keeping your prefrontal cortex online The prefrontal cortex -- said to be the brain's executive center or CEO -- plays a crucial role in higher judgment, discrimination and decision-making. When we are overly tired or under intense mental, emotional or physical stress, our brain tends to bypass its higher, more evolved rational executive circuits, defaulting to more primitive stimulus/response pathways. We respond to challenges without thinking, making impulsive, shortsighted decisions. When the brain's CEO goes offline, strong emotions such as fear and anger can adversely color or distort our perception of the world. Interestingly, the brain's crucial frontal area is where the highest levels of EEG coherence are typically recorded during TM practice, indicating improved communication between the prefrontal cortex and other parts of the brain. When a person transcends during meditation (goes beyond the active levels of the mind), the experience is commonly reported as a state of deep silence and inner wakefulness, without particular qualities or attributes -- just pure consciousness. According to research studies, such as the previously mentioned study in Cognitive Processing, it is this 'transcendental' experience that creates the more efficient, integrated brain functioning seen during TM practice. While focused attention and other mental processes activate local brain areas, the experience of transcending activates the whole brain, enabling different parts of the brain to function together better as a whole. Helping kids grow healthier brains Fortunately, transcending is easy -- we're hardwired for it. With proper instruction and right practice, anyone can do it, including students with ADHD. Experiencing the quiet, transcendental field of orderliness deep within the mind doesn't mean conjuring up a new outlook on life or accepting new beliefs, nor does it require an attitude change. It's a natural, universal experience that produces a healthy response in the brain. With help from the David Lynch
[FairfieldLife] Re: Madhusuudana and As-It-Is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Well Heruka! Seems I'm baffled by your reference. So I'll bite. Newcastle was a major coal town in Britain. Check. Yep, the coal was carried on barges. Check. And you're ROFL jus' cause you can? A.C. Bhak.ved made you do it? wtf --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Shankara, 3.12: Here, some split up the phrase anaadimatparam as anaadi and matparam because, if the word anaadimat is taken as a bahuvriihi compound, then the suffix mat (matup) becomes redundant, which is undesirable. Translator Svami Gambhiiraananda: That which has no (a) beginning (aadi). Matup is used to denote possession. Since the idea of possession is already implied in anaadi, therefore matup, if added after it, becomes redundant. The commentator (Shankara) accepts anaadimat as a nañ-tatpurus.a compound. Well, heureka! Seems like I was (slightly misguided by A.C.) carrying coals to Newcastle! ROFL If, however , the bahuvriihi is insisted on, then the mat after anaadi should be taken as completing the number of syllables needed for versification. So, mat need not be compounded with param.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
very good, consistent with what Muktananda (and his disciple Master Charlnes Cannon); and Adi Da say. ...with one minor exception: Adi Da mentions the Blue field of the Cosmic Mandala and doesn't go into Personalities such as Krishna, Jesus, etc. Muktananda specifically mentions seeing the Blue Man but doesn't mention His Name. ... Lama Zopa appeared to me in a Blue Radiant form in the dream state. My conclusion: various Personalities may be merged into and radiate the Blue Light and then there's the Blue Pearl mentioned by Muktananda and others. But this statment gives no direction indication of exactly which Personalities are or should be Blue. Krishna may be Blue as reported by others, as well as any number of other Radiant Personalities. ... imo the Blue Light is a subtle field of Prakriti, and any number of Personalities may reflect that Light. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wg...@... wrote: The essential triune nature of Being is easily understood by the analogy of the crystal ball. A blue crystal ball exposed to the Sun reflects the light of the sun, which is now blue light being modified by the color of the crystal, the blue reflected light within this crystal ball is Krishna, Christ, Brahma or the many other names given to it (MMY's personal God). The crystal ball itself is symbolic of Prakriti or Mother nature, the Sun represents Brahman, the eternal absolute 'unmanifest' Brahman, to know Brahman is to become Brahman. Purman adah, Purnam idam is the compliment MMY gave to Guru Dev in the book Love and God to illustrate that Guru Dev had achieved the fullness of both, the manifested nature of Being (the blue light) and the unmanifest Brahman (the Sun). Essentially Prakriti is Maya or what MMY has called Mithya (seeming). http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/definitions/mithyA.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jeff.evans60 jeff.evans60@ wrote: MMY BG CH4 V14 Commentary ...knowledge of the essential nature of the divine Being, personified by Lord Krishna, who is beyond the relative and the Absolute, beyond the Unity of Being and the diversity of creation, but holds within Himself the fullness of both. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: right, of course. It's true that AC Bhaktivedanta put Krishna first, ahead of the impersonal Absolute. That's why I discard his teachings as being false, along with that other dualist from Barsana Dham. But one can choose to retain a copy of false teachings, since there's plenty of that in the Bible (imo). For the record, I'm a Buddhist foremost; and fully respect - in advance - any questions/criticisms and objections the Skeptics may have regarding any pov whatsoever. For those demanding proof of what's true vs false,; I'll get back to you later on that. My first Buddhist teacher Hsuan Hua probably has never read the Gita. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Who keeps a copy of As-It-Is around except Hari K. or raw beginners who got their copy at the airport in 1976? cardemaister: I think everyone, even down in Texas, should have a copy of it! It would be more likely for someone 'down in Texas' to have a copy, than up in Finland! That's becuase here in Texas we have numerous ISKCON Temples and other Vaishnava seats of learning where people can actually study these ideas and put them into practice, instead of just reading them in a book. But, A.C.'s edition is one of the few editions of the Bhagavad Gita that give the original Sanskrit, a translation, the word-for-word transliteration AND an erudite purport. In the Vaishnava Vedanta tradition expounded in Vyasa's Bhagavad Gita, Ishvara is equated with the Transcendental Absolute. Beginning on page 9 of his introduction to Bhagavad Gita-As It ia, Swami Bhaktivedanta explains in copious detail how The position of Isvara is that of supreme conciousness. And, on page 10 ...the Paramatman, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is living in everyone's heart as Isvara... Read more: Subject: TM: The Highest First! Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: June 17, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/26k5vl5 Subject: TM in the Hindu Scriptures Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation Date: August 26, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/2dlbyoz
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
In Yogananada's kriya line this is the cosmic mandala. When you penetrate the different bindu-s, your consciousness transits into that loka. However you have to have good dharana. You can't just project your imagination, gossip with the masters and call it a day. The golden-yellow is the background color of prana and of the suksma loka-s (gross and subtle worlds). The blue (nila mandala) is the background color of the casual realm or karana loka-s. In the center is a white bindu. This central white bindu is seen as guru, deva, ishvara. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: very good, consistent with what Muktananda (and his disciple Master Charlnes Cannon); and Adi Da say. ...with one minor exception: Adi Da mentions the Blue field of the Cosmic Mandala and doesn't go into Personalities such as Krishna, Jesus, etc. Muktananda specifically mentions seeing the Blue Man but doesn't mention His Name. ... Lama Zopa appeared to me in a Blue Radiant form in the dream state. My conclusion: various Personalities may be merged into and radiate the Blue Light and then there's the Blue Pearl mentioned by Muktananda and others. But this statment gives no direction indication of exactly which Personalities are or should be Blue. Krishna may be Blue as reported by others, as well as any number of other Radiant Personalities. ... imo the Blue Light is a subtle field of Prakriti, and any number of Personalities may reflect that Light. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: The essential triune nature of Being is easily understood by the analogy of the crystal ball. A blue crystal ball exposed to the Sun reflects the light of the sun, which is now blue light being modified by the color of the crystal, the blue reflected light within this crystal ball is Krishna, Christ, Brahma or the many other names given to it (MMY's personal God). The crystal ball itself is symbolic of Prakriti or Mother nature, the Sun represents Brahman, the eternal absolute 'unmanifest' Brahman, to know Brahman is to become Brahman. Purman adah, Purnam idam is the compliment MMY gave to Guru Dev in the book Love and God to illustrate that Guru Dev had achieved the fullness of both, the manifested nature of Being (the blue light) and the unmanifest Brahman (the Sun). Essentially Prakriti is Maya or what MMY has called Mithya (seeming). http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/definitions/mithyA.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jeff.evans60 jeff.evans60@ wrote: MMY BG CH4 V14 Commentary ...knowledge of the essential nature of the divine Being, personified by Lord Krishna, who is beyond the relative and the Absolute, beyond the Unity of Being and the diversity of creation, but holds within Himself the fullness of both. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: right, of course. It's true that AC Bhaktivedanta put Krishna first, ahead of the impersonal Absolute. That's why I discard his teachings as being false, along with that other dualist from Barsana Dham. But one can choose to retain a copy of false teachings, since there's plenty of that in the Bible (imo). For the record, I'm a Buddhist foremost; and fully respect - in advance - any questions/criticisms and objections the Skeptics may have regarding any pov whatsoever. For those demanding proof of what's true vs false,; I'll get back to you later on that. My first Buddhist teacher Hsuan Hua probably has never read the Gita. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Who keeps a copy of As-It-Is around except Hari K. or raw beginners who got their copy at the airport in 1976? cardemaister: I think everyone, even down in Texas, should have a copy of it! It would be more likely for someone 'down in Texas' to have a copy, than up in Finland! That's becuase here in Texas we have numerous ISKCON Temples and other Vaishnava seats of learning where people can actually study these ideas and put them into practice, instead of just reading them in a book. But, A.C.'s edition is one of the few editions of the Bhagavad Gita that give the original Sanskrit, a translation, the word-for-word transliteration AND an erudite purport. In the Vaishnava Vedanta tradition expounded in Vyasa's Bhagavad Gita, Ishvara is equated with the Transcendental Absolute. Beginning on page 9 of his introduction to Bhagavad Gita-As It ia, Swami Bhaktivedanta explains in copious detail how The position of Isvara is that of supreme conciousness. And, on page 10 ...the Paramatman, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is living in everyone's heart as Isvara... Read more: Subject: TM: The Highest First! Author: Willytex Newsgroups:
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[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: very good, consistent with what Muktananda (and his disciple Master Charlnes Cannon); and Adi Da say. ...with one minor exception: Adi Da mentions the Blue field of the Cosmic Mandala and doesn't go into Personalities such as Krishna, Jesus, etc. Muktananda specifically mentions seeing the Blue Man but doesn't mention His Name. ... Lama Zopa appeared to me in a Blue Radiant form in the dream state. My conclusion: various Personalities may be merged into and radiate the Blue Light and then there's the Blue Pearl mentioned by Muktananda and others. But this statment gives no direction indication of exactly which Personalities are or should be Blue. Krishna may be Blue as reported by others, as well as any number of other Radiant Personalities. ... imo the Blue Light is a subtle field of Prakriti, and any number of Personalities may reflect that Light. Agreed, being formless (yet immanent) it can assume any form (it's the field of the 'glow' or Akasha Tattwa MMY so beautifully elucidated on the Guru Dev/MMY website). Jesus became the 'Christ' or anointed one and so will we some day. Eventually he went on to the Father (Brahman or Parme vyoman), though he stated even while alive, me and my Father are one. Brahman is the formless absolute, the Christ/Krishna 'glow' is the son or the reflection of the Father off the Divine Mother, Prakriti. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit (SAT,TAT,OM). This 'glow' can take ANY form.
[FairfieldLife] Re: M version and others
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: In Yogananada's kriya line this is the cosmic mandala. When you penetrate the different bindu-s, your consciousness transits into that loka. However you have to have good dharana. You can't just project your imagination, gossip with the masters and call it a day. The golden-yellow is the background color of prana and of the suksma loka-s (gross and subtle worlds). The blue (nila mandala) is the background color of the casual realm or karana loka-s. In the center is a white bindu. This central white bindu is seen as guru, deva, ishvara. Which, in order to actually transcend (in actuality) one has to penetrate (the white 5 pointed star in the center of the third eye or Ajna Chakra the portal to the infinite).
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:43 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Mature ? None ofcourse, but there are degrees of stupidity and aggression. Take my country, for example. It has a mandate from God to bring Pax Americana to the entire world. We also believe in diplomacy first. See the attachment for a picture of one of our many diplomats.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Madhusuudana and As-It-Is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Well Heruka! Seems I'm baffled by your reference. So I'll bite. Newcastle was a major coal town in Britain. Check. Yep, the coal was carried on barges. Check. And you're ROFL jus' cause you can? A.C. Bhak.ved made you do it? wtf A.C. made me think 'an-aadi' can only be interpreted as a bahuvriihi. But of course it might also form some other type of compound (I guess) like this: aadimat = having a beginning; an-aadimat = having no beginning? So, no redundancy there? The phrase, carrying coals to Newcastle, means spending an inordinate amount of energy on something useless, fruitless, or redundant. This idiom arose in the 15th century because Newcastle, England was known throughout the country as a major exporter of coal. Therefore, carrying coals to Newcastle would do you no good, because there was more coal there than anywhere else. Variations on the saying include bringing, taking, or moving the coal.
