[FairfieldLife] Re: The Grand Tea Party Unification Theory
You got that right, he doesn't. Neither Moore or Olbermann would be so moronic to suggest that a Palin Presidency would be good for the country, as Kristol has on many occasions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Speaking of choke , indeed William Kristol doesn't hold a candle to the likes of the left like Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter L Sutphen drpetersutphen@ wrote: Oh yea, William Kristol, choke full of insights! Peter On Aug 16, 2010, at 3:48 PM, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Bhairitu: Grand Tea Party members are also called Idiocrats and favor an Idiocracy. The left is unpopular, undisciplined, and ill-tempered. The f*ck tea movementâthat's what the left has come to. They can't defend the results of Obama's policies or the validity of Krugman's arguments. They know it's hard to sustain an antidemocratic ethos in a democracy. They realize they've degenerated into pro-am levels of whining and squabbling. So they curse their opponents... Read more: 'Collapse' BY William Kristol Weekly Standard, August 23, 2010 http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/collapse To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
Rick Archer: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals You've brought the forum down a notch or two, Rick. Good work - what did you think of the movie? Woman Searches Worlwide for Meaning of Life, Fulfillment in 'Eat, Pray, Love'.. http://tinyurl.com/2ehmpes Meditation retreat. A scrappy old Texan, Richard, teases-advises Liz, nicknames her 'Groceries.' I think men and women can agree: this is an incredibly unwieldy nickname... http://tinyurl.com/2ajq2t2 While playing just a bit part in the movie, gelato is getting a big boost from the film's ads, with Julia Roberts, who plays Gilbert, with a puckish look on her face and a cup of (presumably) San Crispino ice cream in her hand as she sits on a stone bench in Piazza Navona... http://tinyurl.com/28j7oka http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals /index.html
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WillyTex Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:39 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals Rick Archer: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals You've brought the forum down a notch or two, Rick. Good work - Blame the messenger. what did you think of the movie? Haven't seen it yet, nor read the book. It's in our Netflix queue, so it will be a while.
[FairfieldLife] Good article on Ayurveda
Nicely written article on Ayurveda: http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/08/11/i-tried-the-ayurveda-diet-road-test/
[FairfieldLife] Chinese meditation 'changes behavior'
A Chinese-influenced meditation technique appears to help the brain regulate behavior after as little as 11 hours of practice, according to a study released Monday. http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0816/chinese-meditation-technique-shown-elevate-brain-function/ I get a hoot our of reading comments to stories just as much or more as the article itself. There are some good one here. How's your Mandarin?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Grand Tea Party Unification Theory
Has Kristol endorsed NutMeg yet? ;-) Joe wrote: You got that right, he doesn't. Neither Moore or Olbermann would be so moronic to suggest that a Palin Presidency would be good for the country, as Kristol has on many occasions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Speaking of choke , indeed William Kristol doesn't hold a candle to the likes of the left like Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter L Sutphen drpetersutphen@ wrote: Oh yea, William Kristol, choke full of insights! Peter On Aug 16, 2010, at 3:48 PM, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Bhairitu: Grand Tea Party members are also called Idiocrats and favor an Idiocracy. The left is unpopular, undisciplined, and ill-tempered. The f*ck tea movementâ€that's what the left has come to. They can't defend the results of Obama's policies or the validity of Krugman's arguments. They know it's hard to sustain an antidemocratic ethos in a democracy. They realize they've degenerated into pro-am levels of whining and squabbling. So they curse their opponents... Read more: 'Collapse' BY William Kristol Weekly Standard, August 23, 2010 http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/collapse To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of WillyTex Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:39 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals Rick Archer: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals Richard: You've brought the forum down a notch or two, Rick. Good work - Rick: Blame the messenger. Me: Classic exchange! what did you think of the movie? Haven't seen it yet, nor read the book. It's in our Netflix queue, so it will be a while.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)?
[FairfieldLife] FYI: Global agribusiness: two decades of plunder
FYI: Global agribusiness: two decades of plunderBy Trisha http://rajpatel.org/author/trisha/ on 08/17/2010 in Uncategorized http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/ GRAIN July, 2010 Grain.org We offer a brief overview of the expansion of agribusiness in the global food system in the past two decades, with some thoughts on what we can expect from these companies in the years ahead. Back in the early 1990s, many of Seedling's pages were devoted to discussions about international treaties and public research agendas. Corporations were part of the discussion, but mainly as a looming threat, one group of actors pushing forward the industrial model of agriculture that was destroying agricultural biodiversity. Fast- forward twenty years, and the landscape has changed. Corporate power in the food system has grown by leaps and bounds. Today corporations set the global rules, with governments and public research centres following their lead. To read full article from GRAIN click here http://www.grain.org/seedling/?id=693 Raj PatelWebsite and Blog of writer, activist and academic, Raj Patel * Home http://rajpatel.org/ * Raj http://rajpatel.org/meet-raj/ * Books http://rajpatel.org/category/books/ * Blog http://rajpatel.org/blog/ * Events http://rajpatel.org/category/events/ * Videos http://rajpatel.org/category/videos/ * Academic http://rajpatel.org/academic/ * Int'l http://rajpatel.org/international/ « FYI: Status of Female Farmers Rises During Food Crisis http://rajpatel.org/2010/08/13/fyi-status-of-female-farmers-rises-durin\ g-food-crisis/ FYI: Global agribusiness: two decades of plunder http://rajpatel.org/2010/08/17/fyi-global-agribusiness-two-decades-of-p\ lunder/ » The Lighter Side of Farmer SuicidesBy Raj http://rajpatel.org/author/raj/ on 08/16/2010 in Uncategorized http://rajpatel.org/category/uncategorized/ Farmer suicides sit low in the list of unlikely subjects for satire'. But if Brasseye can successfully lampoon the moral panic around paedophilia http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9031532194656768989# , it's not a stretch to think that someone might do something similar with agrarian despair. What's surprising, at least according to the reviews and interviews http://uprisingradio.org/home/?p=14766 , is quite how successful Peepli Live http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peepli_Live has skewered almost every venerated Indian institution, from media to state to religion. The film's out soon, and the trailer's here now. * [Print] http://www.printfriendly.com/print?url=http%3A%2F%2Frajpatel.org%2F2010\ %2F08%2F16%2Fthe-lighter-side-of-farmer-suicides%2Fpartner=sociable * [Digg] http://digg.com/submit?phase=2url=http%3A%2F%2Frajpatel.org%2F2010%2F0\ 8%2F16%2Fthe-lighter-side-of-farmer-suicides%2Ftitle=The%20Lighter%20Si\ de%20of%20Farmer%20Suicidesbodytext=Farmer%20suicides%20sit%20low%20in%\ 20the%20list%20of%20%22unlikely%20subjects%20for%20satire%27.%20But%20if\ %20Brasseye%20can%20successfully%20lampoon%20the%20moral%20panic%20aroun\ d%20paedophilia%2C%20it%27s%20not%20a%20stretch%20to%20think%20that%20so\ meone%20might%20do%20something%20similar%20with%20agrarian%20despair.%20\ What%27s%20surp * [Sphinn] http://sphinn.com/index.php?c=postm=submitlink=http%3A%2F%2Frajpatel.\ org%2F2010%2F08%2F16%2Fthe-lighter-side-of-farmer-suicides%2F * [del.icio.us] http://delicious.com/post?url=http%3A%2F%2Frajpatel.org%2F2010%2F08%2F1\ 6%2Fthe-lighter-side-of-farmer-suicides%2Ftitle=The%20Lighter%20Side%20\ of%20Farmer%20Suicidesnotes=Farmer%20suicides%20sit%20low%20in%20the%20\ list%20of%20%22unlikely%20subjects%20for%20satire%27.%20But%20if%20Brass\ eye%20can%20successfully%20lampoon%20the%20moral%20panic%20around%20paed\ ophilia%2C%20it%27s%20not%20a%20stretch%20to%20think%20that%20someone%20\ might%20do%20something%20similar%20with%20agrarian%20despair.%20What%27s\ %20surp * [Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Frajpatel.org%2F2010%2F\ 08%2F16%2Fthe-lighter-side-of-farmer-suicides%2Ft=The%20Lighter%20Side%\ 20of%20Farmer%20Suicides * [Mixx] http://www.mixx.com/submit?page_url=http%3A%2F%2Frajpatel.org%2F2010%2F\ 08%2F16%2Fthe-lighter-side-of-farmer-suicides%2Ftitle=The%20Lighter%20S\ ide%20of%20Farmer%20Suicides * [Google Bookmarks] http://www.google.com/bookmarks/mark?op=editbkmk=http%3A%2F%2Frajpatel\ .org%2F2010%2F08%2F16%2Fthe-lighter-side-of-farmer-suicides%2Ftitle=The\ %20Lighter%20Side%20of%20Farmer%20Suicidesannotation=Farmer%20suicides%\ 20sit%20low%20in%20the%20list%20of%20%22unlikely%20subjects%20for%20sati\ re%27.%20But%20if%20Brasseye%20can%20successfully%20lampoon%20the%20mora\ l%20panic%20around%20paedophilia%2C%20it%27s%20not%20a%20stretch%20to%20\ think%20that%20someone%20might%20do%20something%20similar%20with%20agrar\ ian%20despair.%20What%27s%20surp * [Blogplay] http://blogplay.com http://rajpatel.org/ http://rajpatel.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
Julia Roberts' new Guru, pics and videos on the web. Nat. E. on page 40, Aug 23, ...says that she goes to the Malibu Hindu Temple alone or with kids, over the objections of husband. (the Malibu Temple isn't far from Jerry's house). p. 40, says Julia embraced the faith while filming Eat Pray Love with Javier Bardem. As is the case with many movie starts, their faith may be skin deep, possibly entending only to the wearing of a Sari as shown on page 41 and cozying up to the Guru. (p.41 also, showing her seated right next to Swami Dharam Dev.) Here's a separate pic of him: http://www.ashramharimandir.org/swamidharamdevji.htm Richard Gere's Buddhism may be more genuine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Rick Archer: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals You've brought the forum down a notch or two, Rick. Good work - what did you think of the movie? Woman Searches Worlwide for Meaning of Life, Fulfillment in 'Eat, Pray, Love'.. http://tinyurl.com/2ehmpes Meditation retreat. A scrappy old Texan, Richard, teases-advises Liz, nicknames her 'Groceries.' I think men and women can agree: this is an incredibly unwieldy nickname... http://tinyurl.com/2ajq2t2 While playing just a bit part in the movie, gelato is getting a big boost from the film's ads, with Julia Roberts, who plays Gilbert, with a puckish look on her face and a cup of (presumably) San Crispino ice cream in her hand as she sits on a stone bench in Piazza Navona... http://tinyurl.com/28j7oka http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals /index.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
both are cases of reflected Light, stepped down in purity by many orders of magnitude: MMY from Guru Dev and Muktananda from Nityananda. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
M. must have been a real dupe, right? Must have sexually abused 14 yr. old girls too, right? Yeah they're all the same, right? They come here just to get sex, money and power over overs. Just like your only acknowledged guru, s'vaamit rama. Who cares about all this stuff? Go call a Siddha Yoga center and protest all these immoralities. Tell them how outraged you are. Then crawl back to crowley. Better yet call MIU and tell them. Oh the outrage! Who gives a fuck? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote: Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? Actually by referring to another pop guru, a peer, in this over the top way Maharishi is also bestowing it all on himself for his own followers. It is the same routine Maharishi did with Guru Dev where he could call him divine and other Liberace-isms and and then bask in the self created glory of it by being the new guy representing all that. And we have reams of material from MERU press all directed personally by Maharishi talking about himself in these terms so the narcissism charge is not off the table yet. I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)? Were you just being snarky of did you actually miss that Vaj was nailing him for talking about a guy with Mukta's sexual history in such glowing terms? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
Empty, higher states of consciousness are supposed to dissolve boundaries, right? What do you think happens to the boundaries of rules or vows in higher states of consciousness? They become nothing more than another illusion. These guys probably begin thinking that they lost out on a lot of fun by taking such vows that probably had no value anyway. Actually some of these vows are considered training wheels during early stages of sadhana. Now I'm not excusing any of these guys behavior. Neither am I saying they were enlightened but that is highly probable given the sadhana they performed. It was actually some women that I know who hang out in the spiritual community that brought this up and figuring this out steered around the problem. emptybill wrote: M. must have been a real dupe, right? Must have sexually abused 14 yr. old girls too, right? Yeah they're all the same, right? They come here just to get sex, money and power over overs. Just like your only acknowledged guru, s'vaamit rama. Who cares about all this stuff? Go call a Siddha Yoga center and protest all these immoralities. Tell them how outraged you are. Then crawl back to crowley. Better yet call MIU and tell them. Oh the outrage! Who gives a fuck?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:01 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals Empty, higher states of consciousness are supposed to dissolve boundaries, right? What do you think happens to the boundaries of rules or vows in higher states of consciousness? They become nothing more than another illusion. These guys probably begin thinking that they lost out on a lot of fun by taking such vows that probably had no value anyway. Actually some of these vows are considered training wheels during early stages of sadhana. Maharishi himself strongly advocated not using the understanding that the world is an illusion or the Self is uninvolved as an excuse for violating moral or legal codes. See his Gita commentary.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? Actually by referring to another pop guru, a peer, in this over the top way Maharishi is also bestowing it all on himself for his own followers. Just can't win, eh? So the opposite of narcissistic behaviour (generous praise) is er... proof of narcissism? It is the same routine Maharishi did with Guru Dev where he could call him divine and other Liberace-isms and and then bask in the self created glory of it by being the new guy representing all that. Or... He just meant it. And we have reams of material from MERU press all directed personally by Maharishi talking about himself in these terms so the narcissism charge is not off the table yet. I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)? Were you just being snarky of did you actually miss that Vaj was nailing him for talking about a guy with Mukta's sexual history in such glowing terms? I'm comfortable with snarky if that's your preferred declension for disagreement: I am a rational epistemologist, You are a snark, She is a TB They are.. (well, never mind) Or could it be that you just missed my clumsy attempt to reel in the NPD conjecture to a more secure epistemological footing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Grand Tea Party Unification Theory
Joe: Neither Moore or Olbermann would be so moronic to suggest that a Palin Presidency would be good for the country, as Kristol has on many occasions. 54 percent supported the Tea Party Movement strongly or somewhat. The two categories of support were equally divided. Only 41% opposed the TPM (13% strongly, 28% somewhat)... http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/104075/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Grand Tea Party Unification Theory
Bhairitu: Has Kristol endorsed NutMeg yet? ;-) All these Democrats had said, like Mr. Bush did, that Saddam Hussein possessed WMD. Of the 110 House and Senate Democrats who voted in October 2002 to authorize the use of force against his regime, 67 said in congressional debate that Saddam had these weapons... Read more: 'My Biggest Mistake in the White House' By Karl Rove Wall Street Journal, July 15, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/384v7mn
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
Who gives a fuck? There are plenty of people who give a fuck when they find out that their guru, whether MMY or Muktananda or whoever, is behaving in an immoral way with devotees. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: M. must have been a real dupe, right? Must have sexually abused 14 yr. old girls too, right? Yeah they're all the same, right? They come here just to get sex, money and power over overs. Just like your only acknowledged guru, s'vaamit rama. Who cares about all this stuff? Go call a Siddha Yoga center and protest all these immoralities. Tell them how outraged you are. Then crawl back to crowley. Better yet call MIU and tell them. Oh the outrage! Who gives a fuck? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? Actually by referring to another pop guru, a peer, in this over the top way Maharishi is also bestowing it all on himself for his own followers. Just can't win, eh? So the opposite of narcissistic behaviour (generous praise) is er... proof of narcissism? I don't get why a narcissist couldn't use over-the-top flattery if it got him what he wanted? But lets say I spent some time talking about a blues musician as being the most important person because they were preserving the most important music in history. How long would it take you to realize that I am also a blues musician so all that praise would apply to me? It is the same routine Maharishi did with Guru Dev where he could call him divine and other Liberace-isms and and then bask in the self created glory of it by being the new guy representing all that. Or... He just meant it. Could be. And we have reams of material from MERU press all directed personally by Maharishi talking about himself in these terms so the narcissism charge is not off the table yet. I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)? Were you just being snarky of did you actually miss that Vaj was nailing him for talking about a guy with Mukta's sexual history in such glowing terms? I'm comfortable with snarky if that's your preferred declension for disagreement: I am a rational epistemologist, You are a snark, She is a TB They are.. (well, never mind) I wasn't trying to label you that way. (And in my universe snark is usually a virtue.) I was just trying to figure out if you missed what I thought was the point of Vaj's post (I could be wrong) that Maharishi was praising a douchbag as if he was the second coming. (Nice choice of words there!) Or could it be that you just missed my clumsy attempt to reel in the NPD conjecture to a more secure epistemological footing? I did miss that. And I don't have any epistemological pretensions about conjecturing about Maharishi's mental state. We're all just talk'n here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/08/14/ eat_pray_love_guru_sex_scandals/index.htm The day after his arrival, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi came to visit him. He and the Maharishi sat together outside in the garden for about half an hour. The Maharishi then had a poem read which he had written specifically for Baba [Muktananda. Following are a few stanzas of the poem: I bow to you, Oh Muktananda An austere being who always does good to others You are the bliss of the Self Bestower of supreme happiness One without a second Attainable only through subtle feeling You are the peaceful Self. Possessor of pure fame, How wonderful! As the ocean spreads its waters, You are spreading consciousness to all the peoples of the world. In this country and other countries You have awakened the pure light of consciousness in the minds of multitudes, through a simple and easy path. This yogi Mahesh bows to Muktananda The Bestower of good to others, embodiment of sat, chit, and ananda Pervading everywhere: up, down and around. Cognized by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Oh, what impeccable manners from MMY! Vaj, you never fail to confuse me. One minute I'm thinking you have it in for MMY (blood on his hands and assorted pseudo-intellectual crap), the next you're offering up a falsification of the Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) thesis as recently presented on FFL by such as Curtis. Are you messing with my mind? I think it would be news to psycho-analysts everywhere that OTTPOS (OTT Praise Of Others Syndrome) can co-exist with NPD? Are you perhaps suffering from FPCTD (Failure to Present a Consistent Thesis Disorder)?
[FairfieldLife] Endless, pointless war
[This Modern World by Tom Tomorrow] Cartoon link: http://www.salon.com/ent/comics/this_modern_world/2010/08/17/this_modern\ _world/story.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
On Aug 17, 2010, at 3:46 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Just can't win, eh? So the opposite of narcissistic behaviour (generous praise) is er... proof of narcissism? I don't get why a narcissist couldn't use over-the-top flattery if it got him what he wanted? But lets say I spent some time talking about a blues musician as being the most important person because they were preserving the most important music in history. How long would it take you to realize that I am also a blues musician so all that praise would apply to me? I don't get either how people can't see that empty flattery usually=patronizing crap. Usually because the patronizer wants something. Or could it be that you just missed my clumsy attempt to reel in the NPD conjecture to a more secure epistemological footing? I did miss that. And I don't have any epistemological pretensions about conjecturing about Maharishi's mental state. We're all just talk'n here. Not me, Curtis~~I KNOW. Sal
[FairfieldLife] No Graceful Exit
It appears that Obama has to cut a deal with the Taliban to exit out of Afghanistan. Otherwise, would Americans side with General Petraeus to stay and win the war? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/opinion/17herbert.html?_r=1hpw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
On Aug 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Empty, higher states of consciousness are supposed to dissolve boundaries, right? What do you think happens to the boundaries of rules or vows in higher states of consciousness? They become nothing more than another illusion. These guys probably begin thinking that they lost out on a lot of fun by taking such vows that probably had no value anyway. Actually some of these vows are considered training wheels during early stages of sadhana. Now I'm not excusing any of these guys behavior. Neither am I saying they were enlightened but that is highly probable given the sadhana they performed. It was actually some women that I know who hang out in the spiritual community that brought this up and figuring this out steered around the problem. It's one thing to be horizontally enlightened, i.e. to have expansion as an everpresent, unitary state of consciousness, but it's really no guarantee that someone is going to instinctually operate as a responsible human in terms of moral development or around other sentients in general. Horizontal enlightenment or awakening alone is ultimately of little help to other sentients. It's frickin' great for your ego though. You could be the Sociopath next door and put yourself forward as the latest world-saviour in the same breath. To be really a helpful enlightened human takes growth in terms of both horizontal and vertical enlightenment, vertical meaning one is more equally and integrally developed on all the levels of development: moral, cognitive, spiritual, etc., available to today. So what if you had some nonconventional Brahman experience around your Guru Deva. Who cares? Ideally one would need to have enough of an integrated state that one instinctively realizes that hurting others comes 'right back at you'. Enlightened masters who are hurting other people says one thing, loud and clear: they're not at a decent enough vertical level of development in terms of the lines of human development that assure people don't still behave like assholes in the relative. Ethics is a kind of container for higher levels of inter-being. If you aren't operating at a very ethical level, you might have some wonderful horizontal mojo going on, but in terms of interdependent, relational levels of being, you're a total dolt. IMO, it's at these lower intermixtures we find the Maharishi's and the Muktananda's, the Swami Rama's and the Rajneesh's. They're expanded alright, but having an infinitely expanded ego isn't really all that helpful in a consumer-driven, resource-hogging, heated-up-and-getting-hotter planet. You have to be able to take the perspective of others.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Joe wrote: Who gives a fuck? There are plenty of people who give a fuck when they find out that their guru, whether MMY or Muktananda or whoever, is behaving in an immoral way with devotees. When the enlightened Master is boning your girlfriend or daughter, that's when you give a fuck. Or in the case of Sai Baba, your son.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals It's one thing to be horizontally enlightened, i.e. to have expansion as an everpresent, unitary state of consciousness, but it's really no guarantee that someone is going to instinctually operate as a responsible human in terms of moral development or around other sentients in general. Horizontal enlightenment or awakening alone is ultimately of little help to other sentients. It's frickin' great for your ego though. You could be the Sociopath next door and put yourself forward as the latest world-saviour in the same breath. To be really a helpful enlightened human takes growth in terms of both horizontal and vertical enlightenment, vertical meaning one is more equally and integrally developed on all the levels of development: moral, cognitive, spiritual, etc., available to today. So what if you had some nonconventional Brahman experience around your Guru Deva. Who cares? Ideally one would need to have enough of an integrated state that one instinctively realizes that hurting others comes 'right back at you'. Enlightened masters who are hurting other people says one thing, loud and clear: they're not at a decent enough vertical level of development in terms of the lines of human development that assure people don't still behave like assholes in the relative. Ethics is a kind of container for higher levels of inter-being. If you aren't operating at a very ethical level, you might have some wonderful horizontal mojo going on, but in terms of interdependent, relational levels of being, you're a total dolt. IMO, it's at these lower intermixtures we find the Maharishi's and the Muktananda's, the Swami Rama's and the Rajneesh's. They're expanded alright, but having an infinitely expanded ego isn't really all that helpful in a consumer-driven, resource-hogging, heated-up-and-getting-hotter planet. You have to be able to take the perspective of others. Can you recommend a book that best expresses this idea of vertical and horizontal development, lines of development, etc.?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Can you recommend a book that best expresses this idea of vertical and horizontal development, lines of development, etc.? It's something coined by Ken Wilber. I generally don't recommend his books, as I don't find them real great reads. But I believe it is mentioned in his tape/CD series Kosmic Consciousness (and he mentions TM). Really, you can probably find a lot about it on the web. He's talked a good deal about uneven development in various spiritual masters. I used to share these videos on the topic (of uneven development), even though it doesn't touch specifically on the concepts of horizontal and vertical enlightenment, many found them helpful in understanding the idea of taking the perspective of the other as an key part of expanded growth: http://www.box.net/shared/etqoq2sa1b http://www.box.net/shared/ugjxdpvoy4 http://www.box.net/shared/pyegit3n9q
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Can you recommend a book that best expresses this idea of vertical and horizontal development, lines of development, etc.? It's something coined by Ken Wilber. I generally don't recommend his books, as I don't find them real great reads. But I believe it is mentioned in his tape/CD series Kosmic Consciousness (and he mentions TM). Really, you can probably find a lot about it on the web. He's talked a good deal about uneven development in various spiritual masters. I used to share these videos on the topic (of uneven development), even though it doesn't touch specifically on the concepts of horizontal and vertical enlightenment, many found them helpful in understanding the idea of taking the perspective of the other as an key part of expanded growth: http://www.box.net/shared/etqoq2sa1b http://www.box.net/shared/ugjxdpvoy4 http://www.box.net/shared/pyegit3n9q thanks. I'm downloading them. I'll extract the audio from them and listen to it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Rick Archer wrote: thanks. I’m downloading them. I’ll extract the audio from them and listen to it. Some of his explanations do rely on his visual gestures.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:21 PM, emptybill wrote: Oh, the outrage! You're all like Donald Duck. BTW, I don't know how you got the sad idea that Swami Rama (aka Swami Rama of the Himalayas, etc.) was one of my gurus, but he was not nor is not one my gurus. Sorry to disappoint your latest slur campaign.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
Oh, the outrage! You're all like Donald Duck. What is it about the word all that is puzzling you? Thought it meant only you? Why would I do that describe you as all? Maybe you're in BC and thus take offense at everything now. Yeh, that's it. I'm that, you're that, all this is that so what the fuck are you bitch? Hmm I thought you, me and Turq were buddies now? That is in a Dolph Bau Wau sort of way. But I must have been mislead about you having s' vaamit Ramalingadingdong for a teacher. I must have gotten it from silly Willy. Therefore I must say oh, so sorry, Vaj. Ca, Can', Can't we juss get along? But, besides the theatrics, that does brings up a valid point. Who are your gurus? Too scared to say? I don't know anyone else who is - except you. Must be they're real esoteric like Alice Bailey's Dhwaj Kul. Or is it really, really secret? Come on and say. I won't tell. Is it pt Dwanald Duk? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:21 PM, emptybill wrote: Oh, the outrage! You're all like Donald Duck. BTW, I don't know how you got the sad idea that Swami Rama (aka Swami Rama of the Himalayas, etc.) was one of my gurus, but he was not nor is not one my gurus. Sorry to disappoint your latest slur campaign.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
Vaj's Guru is Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche, one of the best!... Of course, he has nothing to compare to TM. Who'd ya think Vaj's Guru was, the Mahareeshee? http://aroencyclopaedia.org/shared/text/n/nnr_ph_01_eng.php --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Oh, the outrage! You're all like Donald Duck. What is it about the word all that is puzzling you? Thought it meant only you? Why would I do that describe you as all? Maybe you're in BC and thus take offense at everything now. Yeh, that's it. I'm that, you're that, all this is that so what the fuck are you bitch? Hmm I thought you, me and Turq were buddies now? That is in a Dolph Bau Wau sort of way. But I must have been mislead about you having s' vaamit Ramalingadingdong for a teacher. I must have gotten it from silly Willy. Therefore I must say oh, so sorry, Vaj. Ca, Can', Can't we juss get along? But, besides the theatrics, that does brings up a valid point. Who are your gurus? Too scared to say? I don't know anyone else who is - except you. Must be they're real esoteric like Alice Bailey's Dhwaj Kul. Or is it really, really secret? Come on and say. I won't tell. Is it pt Dwanald Duk? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:21 PM, emptybill wrote: Oh, the outrage! You're all like Donald Duck. BTW, I don't know how you got the sad idea that Swami Rama (aka Swami Rama of the Himalayas, etc.) was one of my gurus, but he was not nor is not one my gurus. Sorry to disappoint your latest slur campaign.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: I don't get why a narcissist couldn't use over-the-top flattery if it got him what he wanted? But lets say I spent some time talking about a blues musician as being the most important person because they were preserving the most important music in history. How long would it take you to realize that I am also a blues musician so all that praise would apply to me? Suddenly all praise of a colleague becomes suspect. A teacher praising another teacher. An athlete prasing another athlete. It never really ocurred to me that this could just be a case of some back door self directed praise.You certainly aren't leaving much of a quarter of decency for MMY. Was he alway playing the angles, or did he sometimes discourse honestly?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: I don't get either how people can't see that empty flattery usually=patronizing crap. Usually because the patronizer wants something. Ok, empty flattery, patronizing crap. Yea, so what. Standard fair in these types of circumstances, I think. But narcissism? I'm not sure I'm getting the narcissim part.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eat, Pray, Love guru sex scandals
We can find parallels in tribes of higher primates such as chimps, bonobos, orangutans; etc, as well as the more intelligent monkeys...nothing special to fathom. In the case of possible one-up-manship pissing contests, a good face-saving strategy would be praise (in the short run anyway). Between the two chimps, (imo) Muktananda's Shakti level far exceeded that of MMY. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I don't get why a narcissist couldn't use over-the-top flattery if it got him what he wanted? But lets say I spent some time talking about a blues musician as being the most important person because they were preserving the most important music in history. How long would it take you to realize that I am also a blues musician so all that praise would apply to me? Suddenly all praise of a colleague becomes suspect. A teacher praising another teacher. An athlete prasing another athlete. It never really ocurred to me that this could just be a case of some back door self directed praise.You certainly aren't leaving much of a quarter of decency for MMY. Was he alway playing the angles, or did he sometimes discourse honestly?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm Voting Tea Party brand T- shirts
I needed a good laugh, and this supplied it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: http://imvotingteaparty.com/
[FairfieldLife] Featuring: Terton Chungdrag Dorje
Actor - Deputy Shariff - Terton, what else?...martial arts buff. http://www.sangyetashiling.dk/kt/seagal.htm
[FairfieldLife] HODUD - appropriate punishments for deviant Gurus
http://learningpartnership.org/en/node/167
[FairfieldLife] Life of the Beatles
http://lifeofthebeatles.blogspot.com/2006/06/maharishi-song.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Featuring: Terton Chungdrag Dorje
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: Actor - Deputy Shariff - Terton, what else?...martial arts buff. http://www.sangyetashiling.dk/kt/seagal.htm Just goes to prove that the reincarnation of an asshole is likely to be...another asshole.
