[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: * * * Nablusoss, you know I love you like a brother, but try as you might, you will never out-Turq Turq! He is one of a kind :-) Quite, I have started to love him too... Careful, guys...if you keep this up you're going to end up on somebody's Enemies List. :-) No pun intended, I see he is putting in efforts today that would have been unherd of only 6 months ago. A little less Judy-hate... There was never any Judy hate. Hate is her schtick, not mine. ...a tint more of his love for film and telling quite interesting and personal short-stories from Holland and his new life there. It's promising indeed ! From my side, telling such stories and offering up my opinions on movies are about all I find inter- esting here these days. I may try every so often to post on a more philosophical or spiritual subject, as I did with one this week in which I asked whether anyone here ever felt they gained valuable realiza- tions from their own mistakes in life. The only response to that one, as I remember, was someone using it as an opportunity to dump on one of the teachers I mentioned in the rap, Chogyam Trungpa. To paraphrase a movie (Cool Hand Luke), What we have here is failure of affinity. :-) That's all. I have a natural affinity for, and like to talk with, folks who live in the present and are constantly challenging their own assumptions and beliefs. I find no such affinity with those who seem to draw their inspiration only from memories of the past and who react with anger or attempts at suppres- sion to those who challenge the assumptions and beliefs they hold dear. Curtis and Marek and I get along because -- although very different in many ways -- we share a love of living in the present. Marek's eloquent writings about the joys of surfing are some of the most spiritual things I've ever read; Curtis' insights into the nature of humanity (and himself) gained while playing music for passersby on the street are similarly profound in my opinion. Retreats into a past that tends to grow more glorious (and less in touch with reality) with every passing day don't quite do it for me. I do not deny the TB Trio (you, JohnR, and shukra) your right to hold beliefs that I consider ludicrous, or your tendency to hold onto them for dear life, as if they *were* your life. But I find no affinity there. Similarly, I try these days not to dump on those who log on to FFL and post nothing but TMO propaganda. If that's all they've got going for them, and that is the full extent of their creative intelligence, so be it. A few on this forum I find so repetitive and predict- able in the things they say that I have stopped read- ing the things they say. To do otherwise would be like playing a song that I found boring the first time I heard it 1000 more times. They're entitled to believe whatever gets them through the day, too, but I don't have to subject myself to it. :-) On the whole I agree with Rory -- it's the *diversity* here that makes it interesting enough to frequent from time to time. From my point of view as a kind of relig- ious sociologist, some of what I read makes me roll my eyes or run to the sink to wash the bad taste out of them. :-) Other TBisms I just click past the same way I'd change the radio channel if that same old boring song came on. The bottom line, Nabby, is that I'm not selling anything. I work with no teacher and do not recommend any. I am a member of no spiritual organization and most likely will never be again. I'm just an ordinary human being trying to gain *my* sense of inspiration from the every- day events of my everyday life. The ability to do just that was why I started on a spiritual path in the first place. I was never much interested in being special like some here. Because I'm not. I'm pretty ordinary, and find in that inspiration, not despair.
[FairfieldLife] Exorcising demons...with a dick
If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html An increasingly shrill and sometimes threatening tide of Catholic online debate about the reasons for the sudden and unexpected Aug. 27, 2010 departure of Father Thomas Euteneuer from his post as president of Human Life International led to a flurry of official apologies, explanations and defenses of both Euteneuer's past behavior as not only the superstar of the international pro-life movement, but also an exorcist for the Catholic Church. The Internet crescendo peaked in the wake of a Jan. 27th medical emergency at HLI's Front Royal, Virginia headquarters described by emergency medical responders as a medical seizure and by some witnesses as a demonic possession of a past female associate of Father Euteneuer's. Five days later, as the Catholic blogosphere exploded with theories and accusations against the priest, attacks on both the priest's critics and alleged victims, Euteneuer broke the five months of official silence with an admission of one instance of moral failing during his performance of an exorcism. The circumstances that led to my departure from HLI were related exclusively to my own decisions and conduct within the ministry of exorcism that I carried out independently from my responsibilities at HLI, Euteneuer began in a Feb. 1 post on the website LifeSiteNews. While adding that the vast majority of my decisions and conduct, both personally and in this ministry, were morally sound and consistent with all standards of pastoral care of persons, Euteneuer added, I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful consequences, the worst of which was violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female who was under my spiritual care. Euteneuer took full responsibility for his weakness and sinful conduct but added a denial of some specific online accusations, such as the presence in a rental room in his parent's home of a woman alleged to have been the subject of repeated exorcisms by the priest. Within 24 hours both Euteneuer's bishop and Human Life International had issued statements on the matter, explaining and justifying the past silence, acknowledging the situation -- and in HLI's case adding to the mixed reaction to Euteneuer's statement with the admission of multiple accusations targeting Euteneuer, the priest's immediate admission to improprieties regarding the initial accusation, and a justification for a doctrine of silence on such matters as the direction of Catholic Canon. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for being silent about what ought not be known or for making use of a discreet language. The duty to avoid scandal often commands strict discretion. No one is bound to reveal the truth to someone who does not have the right to know it. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2489. Emphasis in the original.), the HLI statement said. Although Father Euteneuer is somewhat remorseful, it doesn't seem to me he is ready to take full responsibility for the episodes or has even grasped the full gravity of his involvement in them. For the diocese to keep quiet and let people continue to believe he is a saint is one thing, but the fact that Father apparently is not in a 24/7 care center is troubling, because it means women are still vulnerable to his advances, said Catholic blogger Tom O'Toole. We're furious, another blogger with personal connections to Euteneuer's ministry as an exorcist said of her family's reaction. Adele, who asked us to keep her family's name and location private had created a blog stream, Journey to Therese http://www.journeytotherese.blogspot.com/ that was perhaps the most contentiously posted in the weeks leading up to the official statements on Euteneuer. Online Debate and Threats On Jan. 30th Adele told us she did have some concern about the tone of some posts both attacking alleged victims and those posting about their plight. Everything comes in God's time, not your time ... didn't Jesus have to wait for His Father on the Cross??? ... but you're looking for blood ... you'll get it but it will be yours, one
[FairfieldLife] Paarvatii: Shiva's Judith B.?
Pashupatir api taany ahaani kRcchraad agamayad adri-sutaa-samaagam-otkaH | kam aparam avashaM na viprakuryur vibhum api taM yad amii spRshanti bhaavaaH? ||95|| And the Lord of Creatures [Shiva -- card] passed those days with difficulty, Longing for union with the Mountain's daughter [adri-sutaa: Paarvatii]. When even our lord is not immune from such feelings, What ordinary, helpless man can escape the torments? -- Kaalidaasa, Kumaara-sambhava
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Say something new. Something creative, original, and that hasn't been said and debated ad nauseum 100 times before. An awful lot of life is routine, repetition, same old, same old. Not sure how you can stay on that new and exciting edge all the time. Alzheimer?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Say something new. Something creative, original, and that hasn't been said and debated ad nauseum 100 times before. An awful lot of life is routine, repetition, same old, same old. Not sure how you can stay on that new and exciting edge all the time. Alzheimer? Good quip, blusc0ut, but actually it's exactly the opposite. The *more* attention and clarity one can bring to life the less boring it is. I'm often amused by people here who rail against their day jobs. It's as if they've created a demarcation line in their daily lives that says to them, This part over here (work, my job, stuff like that) is the 'non-spiritual' boring part, and this stuff over here (meditating, going on retreats or 'seeing gurus') is the interesting 'spiritual' part. I honestly don't see things that way. There is no difference between focusing intently on a work project, or even cleaning the house, and bringing an equal focus to meditation. Both situations are an opportunity to Be Here Now. The more you can do that, the more enjoyment there is *in* Now. It's fascinating that millions spend a fortune on drugs to make the world go away, whether illegal drugs or over-the-counter ones prescribed by doctors. Seems to me that they're missing the whole point. One doesn't grow bored and depressed by life as a *result* of life; one grows bored and depressed by life as a result of not inter- facing with it completely and totally. The Alzheimers approach is what I would term the repetition of ideas and dogmas in one's head to create an imaginary buffer between life and oneself, and with a similar result as the real disease of that name. One becomes locked into one's head, and unable to connect with life itself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Say something new. Something creative, original, and that hasn't been said and debated ad nauseum 100 times before. An awful lot of life is routine, repetition, same old, same old. Not sure how you can stay on that new and exciting edge all the time. Alzheimer? Good quip, blusc0ut, but actually it's exactly the opposite. The *more* attention and clarity one can bring to life the less boring it is. I'm often amused by people here who rail against their day jobs. It's as if they've created a demarcation line in their daily lives that says to them, This part over here (work, my job, stuff like that) is the 'non-spiritual' boring part, and this stuff over here (meditating, going on retreats or 'seeing gurus') is the interesting 'spiritual' part. I honestly don't see things that way. There is no difference between focusing intently on a work project, or even cleaning the house, and bringing an equal focus to meditation. Both situations are an opportunity to Be Here Now. The more you can do that, the more enjoyment there is *in* Now. It's fascinating that millions spend a fortune on drugs to make the world go away, whether illegal drugs or over-the-counter ones prescribed by doctors. Seems to me that they're missing the whole point. One doesn't grow bored and depressed by life as a *result* of life; one grows bored and depressed by life as a result of not inter- facing with it completely and totally. The Alzheimers approach is what I would term the repetition of ideas and dogmas in one's head to create an imaginary buffer between life and oneself, and with a similar result as the real disease of that name. One becomes locked into one's head, and unable to connect with life itself. That said, some people are still boring. :-) :-) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html Yes, but is it rape-rape or is it just rape-ish? http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-2-2011/rape-victim-abortion-funding
[FairfieldLife] Magic Yoga Re: Maharishi (Brahmarishi) Mahesh Yogi-no one ever greater
Three Yogis Discuss the Use and Abuse of Magical Powers Before you read following one of the many version of the little story Magic Technique to walk on water by three Yogis., please do read this introduction One of the best-known sources of real-life magic feats defined as impossible by Newtonian physics is Yoga. at http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/jan2/yogmagic.htm http://tinyurl.com/4ut958j ..Rama Vernon: In Yoga, the belief is that a gift or grace with which one is apparently born depends upon the impressions or skills one has developed in past lives. So what appears to be grace at this moment may come from efforts at other moments. Grace follows the efforts and skills that are developed.. Magic Technique to walk on water by three Yogis. Three yogi decided to practice meditation together. They sat by the side of lake and closed their eyes in concentration. Then suddenly, the first one stood up and said, I forgot my mat. He stepped miraculously onto the water in front of him and walked across the lake on the other side. When he returned,the second yogi stood up and said,I forgot to put my underwear to dry. He too walked calmly across the water and returned. The third yogi watched the first two carefully and thought, is their learning superior to mine? I too can match your feat,he declared and rushed to the water. He promptly fell in to the water. Undeterred, he climbed out and tried again, only to drown againand again... and ... again... until \ . .. Here the storyteller ends quite often...just in case you want to read further - here my ending of the story:... This went on for some time as the other two yogi watched. After a while,the second yogi turned to first and said, Do you think we should tell him where the stones are? Have a good time and a good start into the Year of the Rabbit --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: MMY should have walked on water, heal the sick, raise the dead, performed miracles, and rise from the dead. That would have ended all doubts from all nonbelievers. MMY does a press conference. See, it is easy? I am walking on water Next day's headline in the Vaj Enquirer: MMY can't swim!
[FairfieldLife] Fox Geezer Syndrome
And they think they're being informed, staying in touch. My neighbors, an old French couple, my mother and numerous other relatives have fallen for this syndrome. It used to be you couldn't use the airwaves as a soapbox or for grandstanding. It looks like the loss of airwave equality signed in by Reagan, allowed these disinformation soapboxers to dominate partisan opinion-as-fact. People actually believe this sh*t! http://www.frumforum.com/fox-geezer-syndrome Fox Geezer Syndrome Conor Friedersdorf remembers what a pain it was to live with a liberal roommate who watched Keith Olbermann every night, and would subsequently sulk around in a pissed-off mood. Friedersdorf too got a negative contact buzz from the show. He writes: “It seems to me that Olbermann’s show often brought out the worst impulses in people: petulance, self-righteousness, and blind anger at ‘the other side.’” Sounds familiar to me, though from the other side. Except in my case, it’s not my liberal roommate. It’s my conservative parents – and maybe yours too. Over the past couple of years, I’ve been keeping track of a trend among friends around my age (late thirties to mid-forties). Eight of us (so far) share something in common besides our conservatism: a deep frustration over how our parents have become impossible to take on the subject of politics. Without fail, it turns out that our folks have all been sitting at home watching Fox News Channel all day – especially Glenn Beck’s program. Used to be I would call my mom and get updated on news from the neighborhood, her garden, the grandchildren, hometown gossip, and so forth. I’ve always been interested in politics, but never had the occasion to talk about them with her. She just doesn’t care. Or didn’t. I don’t know when it happened, exactly, but she began peppering our conversation with red-hot remarks about President Obama. I would try to engage her, but unless I shared her particular judgment, and her outrage, she apparently thought that I was a dupe or a RINO. Finally I asked my father privately why Mom, who as far as I know never before had a political thought, was so worked up about Obama all the time. “She’s been like that ever since she started watching Glenn Beck,” Dad said. A few months later, she roped him into watching Beck, which had the same effect. Even though we’re all conservatives, I found myself having to steer our phone conversations away from politics and current events. It wasn’t that I disagreed with their opinions – though I often did – but rather that I found the vehemence with which they expressed those opinions to be so off-putting. Then I flew out for a visit, and observed that their television was on all day long, even if no one was watching it. What channel was playing? Fox. Spending a few days in the company of the channel – especially Glenn Beck — it all became clear to me. If Fox was the window through which I saw the wider world, for hours every day, I’d be perpetually pissed off too. Back home, I mentioned to a friend over beers how much Fox my mom and dad watched, and how angry they now were about politics. “Yours too?!” he said. “I’ve noticed the same thing with mine. They weren’t always like this, but since they retired, they’ve gotten into Fox, and you can’t even talk to them anymore without hearing them read the riot act about Obama.” I started to wonder how common this Fox Geezer Syndrome was. I began to poll conservative friends of my generation who had right-wing parents. At least eight different people – not an Obama voter among them, and one of them actually a George W. Bush political appointee in Washington – told me that yes, they had observed a correlation between the fevered emotionalism of their elderly parents’ politics, and increased exposure to Fox News. After the Tucson shootings, Fox chief Roger Ailes said he had told his crew to “tone it down.” I’m skeptical, but I hope he succeeds. One of the great advantages of a conservative disposition is a suspicion of emotions, and emotionalism. The dumbest decisions I’ve ever made, about politics and everything else, were executed while I was worked up about something, and trusted my emotional response. Passion is inevitable – we are only human, after all – and can be constructive when properly channeled. But passion is the enemy of clear thought and, when given free reign, is the prerequisite for mob rule. Unbridled anger at the deserving enemies is a danger to the civil order, and ultimately to ourselves. Remember Thomas More’s warning to the hotheaded William Roper in A Man For All Seasons, when Roper accused More of going easy on a scoundrel who hadn’t (yet) broken the law. Roper charged More with wanting to give the Devil the benefit of the law. “This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s!”
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
Thank You to sum it up so nicely and plain .- [:)] couldn't understand anything and what's all about in this lengthy text/sermon- accusations/defenses etc---whatever.. and if therefore turquoiseb artistic arrow in his rap was aiming correctly or the mark was painted afterward, sorry. mea culpa Here something easy: Jim Watkins: Pop Goes the Pope http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-watkins/pop-goes-the-pope_b_536521.ht\ ml Finally, John Lennon can truly rest in peace. The Vatican has forgiven him, and his fellow Beatles, in what could well be the worst attempt ever to change the subject. http://tinyurl.com/y2hulnh http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-watkins/pop-goes-the-pope_b_536521.htm\ l --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ \ _b_817613.html Yes, but is it rape-rape or is it just rape-ish? http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-2-2011/rape-victim-aborti\ on-funding
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Thank You to sum it up so nicely and plain .- [:)] Unlike some, I like to provide a little...uh... commentary with my reposts. :-) couldn't understand anything and what's all about in this lengthy text/sermon- accusations/defenses etc---whatever.. and if therefore turquoiseb artistic arrow in his rap was aiming correctly or the mark was painted afterward, sorry. mea culpa Here something easy: Jim Watkins: Pop Goes the Pope Finally, John Lennon can truly rest in peace. The Vatican has forgiven him, and his fellow Beatles, in what could well be the worst attempt ever to change the subject. http://tinyurl.com/y2hulnh http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-watkins/pop-goes-the-pope_b_536521.htm\ Wonderful. Many thanks for this find. The author just nails it. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Queen, and Black Sabbath being Satanic...well, maybe. But The Eagles? The mind boggles. Who knew the elevator in the Hotel California led straight to Hell? Brings whole new meaning to the line, You can check out any time you like...but you can never leave. :-) Bottom line for me -- and why I tend to stumble upon stories like this and repost them -- is that as a kinda armchair religious sociologist, the only sizable spiritual organization on this planet that seems to be doing a better job of shooting itself in the foot and dying gracelessly than the TM organization is the Catholic Church. They have levels of ludicrious beliefs and denial that they feel they've got to defend and uphold that the truest of TM True Believers have never dreamed of. But rather than learn from their mis- takes -- and own up to them publicly -- they try to change the subject and parrot the same old dogma. In what may seem to be a non-sequitur but isn't, do you follow the American TV show V? It's not bad, sometimes. In the most recent episode, Anna (political and cult leader of the visiting aliens, played by the lovely Moreena Baccarin from Firefly and Serenity) drops in to the Vatican and black- mails them into not only accepting the V's as friends of the planet and all-around Good Guys, but silencing its own priests who dare to criticize them from the pulpit. The Vatican agrees. Why? Because Anna does a little flashy parlor magic right in front of them -- in their terms, performs a miracle -- and then reminds them what would happen to their teachings if she went around doing this in public. Who would swing behind 2000-year-old miracles when they could see them at any Visitor Center? A bit of wry social commentary hidden in an otherwise- not-outstanding scifi TV series. Back to your subject, I wonder what the Vatican would think of this song, by Bruce Cockburn. Bruce is a very committed Christian, and that rarest of the rare, a truly Christian Christian. But in this song he dares to identify with another guy who stood on top of a mountain conversing with Satan. If da Pope ever heard this one, he'd probably shit a brick. But I think it's one of the most spiritual songs I've ever heard. Go figure. Guess I'll never be Pope. :-) Presented here only in audio, followed by the lyrics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PfDrP6X5P8 Standing on a rock in a river Staring at the splintered sun You could drown yourself in jewels Like a thousand other fools While you stand there looking down at what you've won Sitting on a mountain of ashes Face to face with past regrets You could roll down to the canyon Piss away this incarnation But remember that you pay for what you get And he says, But don't you know How hard it is To hit the ground and mean it. And mean it? Walk the jangling streets of the city Trying to find the buried sun You could drown yourself in jewels Like a thousand other fools While you wander waiting for it to be done And he cries, Why don't we celebrate? Why don't we celebrate? Love can make you sad. Come on, let's drive ourselves mad. And he's aware How hard it is To kiss the sun and mean it. And mean it. And he screams, Why don't we celebrate? Why don't we celebrate? Life can make you sad. Come on, let's drive ourselves mad. Standing on a rock in a river Staring at the rain made one On the surface flashing diamonds Rolling down the twilight canyon And we shall kiss the sun in spite of him So why don't we celebrate? Why don't we celebrate? Why don't we celebrate? - Dialog With The Devil, 1971 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lie To Me does The Social Network
Unlike The Social Network, this TV episode is fiction, and able to make it a better story... Well, I guess we can tell from the responses below how many FFL informants saw the movie 'The Social Network'. wayback71: I saw The Social Network and loved it. It gets my vote for best picture of 2010... So, I wonder when Turq will see it - I guess he thought it was a documentary. LoL! Apparently this Turq fellow doesn't even own a Facebook page. Go figure. Altho the subject is not all that pleasant, and the characters not that easy to like, I found it entirely engrossing. From the time the movie began unit it ended, I felt I had entered another world and could not distance myself from it. It never occurred to me to do so. I think the writer did a fine job is making a possibly boring subject intriguing, I though the acting was just superb (Justin Timberlake as Sean Parker! And Jesse Einsenberg!!). Altho the characters did not seem to grow and incorporate any lessons during this time (as compared to The King's Speech) I still feel the movie was novel, creative, intense and amazingly good. You don't walk out of the film feeling uplifted or satisfied in the usual way, but that is okay with this film because that is the story - not amenable to an easy wrap-up. Loose ends still dangling. So, I agree with you on something. David Fincher's movie The Social Network is a work of fiction, you idiot! So, you've seen every movie made this year? The Social Network is one of the best movies I have seen all year... 'The Social Network review' http://tinyurl.com/2ag354p
[FairfieldLife] Strange Waters
Inspired by the article merudanda posted about the Vatican's lack of understanding of music and its relationship to spirituality, here's another one they probably wouldn't like much. Best enjoyed on headphones or with the volume cranked way up, or both, which you might not intuit given that it's by Bruce Cockburn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPDKWnA54fQ I've seen a high cairn kissed by holy wind Seen a mirror pool cut by golden fins Seen alleys where they hide the truth of cities The mad whose blessing you must accept without pity I've stood in airports guarded glass and chrome Walked rifled roads and landmined loam Seen a forest in flames right down to the road Burned in love till I've seen my heart explode You've been leading me Beside strange waters Across the concrete fields of man Sun ray like a camera pans Some will run and some will stand Everything is bullshit but the open hand You've been leading me Beside strange waters Streams of beautiful lights in the night But where is my pastureland in these dark valleys? If I loose my grip, will I take flight? You've been leading me Beside strange waters Streams of beautiful lights in the night But where is my pastureland in these dark valleys? If I loose my grip, will I take flight? - Strange Waters, 1995 The thing that the Vatican wouldn't understand about this song by a modern-day Christian is that it's about mysticism -- the *first-hand* having of spiritual experiences. All they deal with, or have to offer, are second-hand spiritual experiences.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art Project, powered by Google Explore museums from around the world, discover
Just found your kind posting, late so so very right my favorites, too- may I say: the reflection of your sunshine glows in your one liner - THAT'S the right topic to begin the Year of the Rabbit with (my special best wishes included) the growing light in Vincent's painting -from pictures of darkness in the beginning of his missionary workto the glowing light--unbelievable to imagine a time without them and before van Gogh As everybody knows Van Gogh wished to become an artist while in God's missionary service : ...to try to understand the real significance of what the great artists, the serious masters, tell us in their masterpieces, that leads to God; one man wrote or told it in a book; another in a picture. and was open to constantly change and learning from nature and other artist as well as almost everybody and everything he was in touch with he may failed in his mission and his plans of a Christian Community but he certainly did not failed (us) in his glowing paintings frightening: read his first sermon at Van Gogh's First Sunday Sermon: 29 October 1876 I Am a Stranger on the Earth http://www.vggallery.com/misc/archives/sermon.htm BTW. Interesting I was most fortunate to encountered incredible beautiful surprising insight and sense for VvG beauty mostly among my Japanese and not so often among Western friends and colleagues. (the Japanese scholars did not care about his Christian/Western background and VvG interest in Japanese art was mutual -only for the sensual existential beauty) one can go on and on but it's midnight again...there will be another time i only wonder ad paintings by locationquote: IMHO the Google ArtProject give one the choice of picking ones favorite painting, doesn't it? to zoom in and enjoy this only one as my Japanese friends are always eager to point out (criticizing the mass collection and viewing of art) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:47 AM, merudanda wrote: Cool. Great you agreeThe Van Gogh Museum is very interesting. Rather that group the paintings chronologically like most museums do,.Very observant about the un-creatively chronologically line ..lol agree fullhearted always bother me,too they group Van Gogh's paintings by location, where he was when he painted them. This is very revealing. He was not the most stable of individuals, so his work was very influenced by the light (or lack thereof) in his environment. Thus his paintings from Paris are all blue and gray and kinda depressed, and his work from the south of France is all full of colors and light and vibrancy. He is looking closely at nature. Although some of van Gogh's paintings were spontaneous outpourings of creative energy, in many cases he plotted out his pictures. He made countless drawings, impassioned sketches in which he worked out compositional elements. His paintings are mindful and premeditated. check :In a Brilliant Light: Van Gogh in Arles Just as great from that period are his paintings at night as well as indoors~~they practically glow. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html An increasingly shrill and sometimes threatening tide of Catholic online debate about the reasons for the sudden and unexpected Aug. 27, 2010 departure of Father Thomas Euteneuer from his post as president of Human Life International led to a flurry of official apologies, explanations and defenses of both Euteneuer's past behavior as not only the superstar of the international pro-life movement, but also an exorcist for the Catholic Church. The Internet crescendo peaked in the wake of a Jan. 27th medical emergency at HLI's Front Royal, Virginia headquarters described by emergency medical responders as a medical seizure and by some witnesses as a demonic possession of a past female associate of Father Euteneuer's. Five days later, as the Catholic blogosphere exploded with theories and accusations against the priest, attacks on both the priest's critics and alleged victims, Euteneuer broke the five months of official silence with an admission of one instance of moral failing during his performance of an exorcism. The circumstances that led to my departure from HLI were related exclusively to my own decisions and conduct within the ministry of exorcism that I carried out independently from my responsibilities at HLI, Euteneuer began in a Feb. 1 post on the website LifeSiteNews. While adding that the vast majority of my decisions and conduct, both personally and in this ministry, were morally sound and consistent with all standards of pastoral care of persons, Euteneuer added, I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful consequences, the worst of which was violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female who was under my spiritual care. Euteneuer took full responsibility for his weakness and sinful conduct but added a denial of some specific online accusations, such as the presence in a rental room in his parent's home of a woman alleged to have been the subject of repeated exorcisms by the priest. Within 24 hours both Euteneuer's bishop and Human Life International had issued statements on the matter, explaining and justifying the past silence, acknowledging the situation -- and in HLI's case adding to the mixed reaction to Euteneuer's statement with the admission of multiple accusations targeting Euteneuer, the priest's immediate admission to improprieties regarding the initial accusation, and a justification for a doctrine of silence on such matters as the direction of Catholic Canon. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for being silent about what ought not be known or for making use of a discreet language. The duty to avoid scandal often commands strict discretion. No one is bound to reveal the truth to someone who does not have the right to know it. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2489. Emphasis in the original.), the HLI statement said. Although Father Euteneuer is somewhat remorseful, it doesn't seem to me he is ready to take full responsibility for the episodes or has even grasped the full gravity of his involvement in them. For the diocese to keep quiet and let people continue to believe he is a saint is one thing, but the fact that Father apparently is not in a 24/7 care center is troubling, because it means women are still vulnerable to his advances, said Catholic blogger Tom O'Toole. We're furious, another blogger with personal connections to Euteneuer's ministry as an exorcist said of her family's reaction. Adele, who asked us to keep her family's name and location private had created a blog stream, Journey to Therese http://www.journeytotherese.blogspot.com/ that was perhaps the most contentiously posted in the weeks leading up to the official statements on Euteneuer. Online Debate and Threats On Jan. 30th Adele told us she did have some concern about the tone of some posts
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? You are to believe whatever the fuck you want to believe. What you believe does not affect me sufficiently to wish to influence it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html An increasingly shrill and sometimes threatening tide of Catholic online debate about the reasons for the sudden and unexpected Aug. 27, 2010 departure of Father Thomas Euteneuer from his post as president of Human Life International led to a flurry of official apologies, explanations and defenses of both Euteneuer's past behavior as not only the superstar of the international pro-life movement, but also an exorcist for the Catholic Church. The Internet crescendo peaked in the wake of a Jan. 27th medical emergency at HLI's Front Royal, Virginia headquarters described by emergency medical responders as a medical seizure and by some witnesses as a demonic possession of a past female associate of Father Euteneuer's. Five days later, as the Catholic blogosphere exploded with theories and accusations against the priest, attacks on both the priest's critics and alleged victims, Euteneuer broke the five months of official silence with an admission of one instance of moral failing during his performance of an exorcism. The circumstances that led to my departure from HLI were related exclusively to my own decisions and conduct within the ministry of exorcism that I carried out independently from my responsibilities at HLI, Euteneuer began in a Feb. 1 post on the website LifeSiteNews. While adding that the vast majority of my decisions and conduct, both personally and in this ministry, were morally sound and consistent with all standards of pastoral care of persons, Euteneuer added, I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful consequences, the worst of which was violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female who was under my spiritual care. Euteneuer took full responsibility for his weakness and sinful conduct but added a denial of some specific online accusations, such as the presence in a rental room in his parent's home of a woman alleged to have been the subject of repeated exorcisms by the priest. Within 24 hours both Euteneuer's bishop and Human Life International had issued statements on the matter, explaining and justifying the past silence, acknowledging the situation -- and in HLI's case adding to the mixed reaction to Euteneuer's statement with the admission of multiple accusations targeting Euteneuer, the priest's immediate admission to improprieties regarding the initial accusation, and a justification for a doctrine of silence on such matters as the direction of Catholic Canon. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for being silent about what ought not be known or for making use of a discreet language. The duty to avoid scandal often commands strict discretion. No one is bound to reveal the truth to someone who does not have the right to know it. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2489. Emphasis in the original.), the HLI statement said. Although Father Euteneuer is somewhat remorseful, it doesn't seem to me he is ready to take full responsibility for the episodes or has even grasped the full gravity of his involvement in them. For the diocese to keep quiet and let people continue to believe he is a saint is one thing, but the fact that Father apparently is not in a 24/7 care center is troubling, because it means women are still vulnerable to his advances, said Catholic blogger Tom O'Toole. We're furious, another blogger with personal connections to Euteneuer's ministry as an exorcist said of her family's reaction. Adele, who asked us to keep her family's name and location private had created a blog stream, Journey to Therese
[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live
That is why Judy refers to you as Master of Inadvertent Irony. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Say something new. Something creative, original, and that hasn't been said and debated ad nauseum 100 times before. An awful lot of life is routine, repetition, same old, same old. Not sure how you can stay on that new and exciting edge all the time. Alzheimer? Good quip, blusc0ut, but actually it's exactly the opposite. The *more* attention and clarity one can bring to life the less boring it is. I'm often amused by people here who rail against their day jobs. It's as if they've created a demarcation line in their daily lives that says to them, This part over here (work, my job, stuff like that) is the 'non-spiritual' boring part, and this stuff over here (meditating, going on retreats or 'seeing gurus') is the interesting 'spiritual' part. I honestly don't see things that way. There is no difference between focusing intently on a work project, or even cleaning the house, and bringing an equal focus to meditation. Both situations are an opportunity to Be Here Now. The more you can do that, the more enjoyment there is *in* Now. It's fascinating that millions spend a fortune on drugs to make the world go away, whether illegal drugs or over-the-counter ones prescribed by doctors. Seems to me that they're missing the whole point. One doesn't grow bored and depressed by life as a *result* of life; one grows bored and depressed by life as a result of not inter- facing with it completely and totally. The Alzheimers approach is what I would term the repetition of ideas and dogmas in one's head to create an imaginary buffer between life and oneself, and with a similar result as the real disease of that name. One becomes locked into one's head, and unable to connect with life itself. That said, some people are still boring. :-) :-) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? You are to believe whatever the fuck you want to believe. What you believe does not affect me sufficiently to wish to influence it. **In other words, Yes, Yes, A Thousand Times YES!!! Not only am I superior to the priest, I am superior to all of you!! screams the sad clown.:-)
[FairfieldLife] CNN: Could the U.S. shut down the internet? Yes
But it would be illegal. The government would have to call four or five top internet providers and order them to disrupt Border Gateway Protocols in a way that shut down the majority of American internet traffic. http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/03/internet.shut.down/index.html?hpt=T2 or http://tinyurl.com/4l4xlly By *John D. Sutter*, CNN February 3, 2011 10:23 a.m. EST | Filed under: Webhttp://www.cnn.com/TECH/web/archive/ It seemed so easy for Egypt. Just order a shutdown of the country's internet connections and -- bam -- it happens. But is such an authoritarian action transferable? Could the U.S. government shut down American internet connections? And is it possible for the global internet to be toppled? Technically, yes, internet experts said Wednesday, shortly after Egypt's government restored internet connections there as violent political protests continued. But it's highly unlikely. Could you break the internet? Yeah. Can you shut it down? No. Shutting down the entire internet would be pretty much impossible at this point, said Jim Cowie, co-founder of Renesys, an worldwide internet tracker. Cowie spoke of the internet as if it were a giant, adaptable worm. The funny thing about the internet is even if you break it in half, the two halves will function as [separate] internets, he said. *How Egypt shut down the internet* Understanding what happened in Egypt helps frame the discussion about what could happen to the internet in the United States or around the globe. According to internet traffic monitors and experts, Egypt's government likely called the country's five main internet service providers -- like on the phone -- late last week and ordered them to barricade online traffic. That's sort of like calling all of the post offices in the country and telling them to throw the mail away instead of delivering it, said Robert Faris, research director at Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet Society. But instead of shredding paper mail, the Egyptian internet providers altered their Border Gateway Protocols, the software that routes online information. There's not an on-off switch, Faris said. What it is, it's a list of IP addresses that route information between nodes on the internet. And what they did (in Egypt) is they changed all the software and the list in there to something called null routing. So all the traffic going in and out was essentially thrown away. Faris called these measures extreme. They have been carried out in only two other instances, he said: In Myanmar during 2007 protestshttp://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/08/13/myanmar.elections.timeline/index.html?iref=allsearch; and in Nepal in 2005, when the king seized powerhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/06/11/nepal.king/index.html?iref=allsearch . Iran and China filter the internet instead of blocking it, he said. *Could the United States do the same?* Technically, the United States could do the same thing Egypt did to block internet access, Faris said. The government would have to call four or five top internet providers and order them to disrupt Border Gateway Protocols in a way that shut down the majority of American internet traffic, he said. Others said the government would have to deal with the country's thousands of internet providers in order to fully clamp down on internet access, which would be logistically difficult. But that's unlikely to happen here, experts said. For one thing, the internet in the U.S. is bigger. There are more companies involved, more data at play and more locations where the internet comes in and out of the country. Moreover, U.S. law would prevent such an authoritarian shutdown. The internet is a network of networks, said Andrew Blum, a correspondent for CNN content partner Wired magazine and author of an upcoming book on internet infrastructure, and they're all commercially operated. They're all businesses. Their autonomy is sort of their bread and butter. And they're mostly unregulated. So the idea of having to comply fully with any government order to shut them off is pretty extreme. It's as if there were a government order to close every McDonald's -- all at once. A country's legal framework, not its technical infrastructure, determines whether it is able to shut down its citizens' access to the internet, said Cowie. It really comes down to the fact that somebody has to have the legal authority to go to a company that runs a large part of the internet in the United States and say, 'Turn off your connection to the outside world.' However, as CNET reportshttp://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20030332-281.html, three U.S. senators have submitted legislation to give the president emergency powers over the internet in the event of a cyberattack or other disaster scenario. On Wednesday, the bill's authors tried to distance themselveshttp://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNewsContentRecord_id=E3633456-5056-8059-7606-849A53CBFF1Afrom what's
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
How on earth did you come to that conclusion Billy? Is it because Barry wrote about a religion you have an affinity for perhaps? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html An increasingly shrill and sometimes threatening tide of Catholic online debate about the reasons for the sudden and unexpected Aug. 27, 2010 departure of Father Thomas Euteneuer from his post as president of Human Life International led to a flurry of official apologies, explanations and defenses of both Euteneuer's past behavior as not only the superstar of the international pro-life movement, but also an exorcist for the Catholic Church. The Internet crescendo peaked in the wake of a Jan. 27th medical emergency at HLI's Front Royal, Virginia headquarters described by emergency medical responders as a medical seizure and by some witnesses as a demonic possession of a past female associate of Father Euteneuer's. Five days later, as the Catholic blogosphere exploded with theories and accusations against the priest, attacks on both the priest's critics and alleged victims, Euteneuer broke the five months of official silence with an admission of one instance of moral failing during his performance of an exorcism. The circumstances that led to my departure from HLI were related exclusively to my own decisions and conduct within the ministry of exorcism that I carried out independently from my responsibilities at HLI, Euteneuer began in a Feb. 1 post on the website LifeSiteNews. While adding that the vast majority of my decisions and conduct, both personally and in this ministry, were morally sound and consistent with all standards of pastoral care of persons, Euteneuer added, I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful consequences, the worst of which was violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female who was under my spiritual care. Euteneuer took full responsibility for his weakness and sinful conduct but added a denial of some specific online accusations, such as the presence in a rental room in his parent's home of a woman alleged to have been the subject of repeated exorcisms by the priest. Within 24 hours both Euteneuer's bishop and Human Life International had issued statements on the matter, explaining and justifying the past silence, acknowledging the situation -- and in HLI's case adding to the mixed reaction to Euteneuer's statement with the admission of multiple accusations targeting Euteneuer, the priest's immediate admission to improprieties regarding the initial accusation, and a justification for a doctrine of silence on such matters as the direction of Catholic Canon. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for being silent about what ought not be known or for making use of a discreet language. The duty to avoid scandal often commands strict discretion. No one is bound to reveal the truth to someone who does not have the right to know it. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2489. Emphasis in the original.), the HLI statement said. Although Father Euteneuer is somewhat remorseful, it doesn't seem to me he is ready to take full responsibility for the episodes or has even grasped the full gravity of his involvement in them. For the diocese to keep quiet and let people continue to believe he is a saint is one thing, but the fact that Father apparently is not in a 24/7 care center is troubling, because it means women are still vulnerable to his advances, said Catholic blogger Tom O'Toole. We're furious, another blogger with personal connections to Euteneuer's ministry as an exorcist said of her family's reaction. Adele, who asked us to keep her family's name and location private had created a blog stream, Journey to Therese
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers
(5) the end of one cycle is always the beginning of another I wonder, just watching the Aljazeera egypt broadcast, how that would apply to the present situation in the TM movement, which looks like it is in a state of induced coma. Hasn't Maharishi said, the movement belongs to those who move? Hasn't he said in an interview before his death, that all the initiators are his successors. As Judy pointed out recently, nature may 'want' something else despite of our choices. And that may apply to the movement itself. (See, I don't think the Maharishi Effect, if it exists, necessarily always works the way we--including Maharishi--expect or intend it to.) What I am trying to aim at is, that all the crazyness of the movement recently, Rajaism etc. could be just a means to wake the people in the movement up. Obviously nobody in the upper movement has the balls to do something essential to save it. All look paralyzed at each other it seems. Just a thought. BluScout, good observation. Our TM- Rajas are like any of the autocrats of the Arab world right now. Out of control, isolated and just watching what the people are doing. Probably a lot like Mubarac hold up somewhere these last few days watching the news feeds of his people. And wishing to shut down the damn internet. I listened to a person here in FF who was doing a survey of meditators locally looking at housing needs. The person was just surveying to know what people wanted. But was stunned by the extremely vehement and aggravated response that were drawn when the survey questions went over to sthapatya vedic architecture (!). The surveyor was shocked (!) how strong the vehemence was and how it rolled over in to everything about the TMmovement from just asking about SthapatyaV. The survey was not particularly about SthpatyaV. The surveyor was a little shell-shocked that this was in about half of the surveying. -Buck Yep, I find this same thing as this interviewer where I simply ask of FF meditators journalistic-ally if they are in the domes. And then what they think of how it is going. Just let people talk and listen. I've sampled this for quite a long time and I hear a lot of vehemence against the organization and how it has gone also. Strong and clearly stated in quite a lot of cases. Some softer or reflect forlorn-ness. A lot of vehemence. Some clear sap too. But clearly Raja-ism has trouble on their hands with the people. Looking Just at the tally of their dome numbers shows that too. It's too bad, a shame. -Dug in FF Well, shit yes if they have guts to act. Yep, a great example of this within this particular 'dome number' thread would be these damn TM-Rajas. Take those dome numbers as goal, they are purposefully unifying. Then a few things that should help the dome numbers here if these TM-Rajas had guts along with a spine to act. A few things would be: Git rid of that DADT policy the guidelines and all that about having seen saints and spiritual teachers. Ethics: work at being honest every way and being transparent about that. Work at gathering meditators back by becoming more spiritually ecumenical, less abrasive and less arrogant by reaching out to where all the meditators had went on to. Specifically deliver a vote of 'no-confidence' in that 'Prime Minister' who sits in the middle. Regime change. Retire the current MUM president. Send him packing around as 'emeritus' along with some of his people. Give them all 'Maharishi Awards' but give someone else the job, authority and power of being President of MUM now. Stop fealty testing. Just facilitate and plain welcome the meditators back. And of course drop entirely the robes, crowns and that invincibility sales pitch thing everywhere. Even to the January 12th birthday party in the dome. Or something like Guru Purnima. Jeesus. But no, instead they defeat the numbers at every turn in action. They and we are in deep shit with the dome numbers because they are such piss-poor doers in life. They are in charge of that. The buck stops there. It's life in the body and they are failing with the numbers. It's a damned shame. JGD, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please join this call
And don't forget, after the Holy Phone Call, to call 1-800-SPINSTER to pledge your donation. The ladies of the TM movement who have sacrificed their orgasms for your enlightenment need your support in this, their sunset years. :-) -- smiley face here, indicating humor --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Dear Friends, I heartfully encourage you to JOIN THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE CALL TONIGHT. It will be inspiring, fun, and exciting, and will be more successful with the addition of your enlightened consciousness. 8:30 PM EST, 7:30 PM CST, 6:30 MT, 5:30 PT. Call 512-879-2092 When prompted, enter access code: 985849# With love Jai Guru Dev http://mue-motherdivinecapital.org/images/photo_01.jpg Timely Update http://www.motherdivine.org/emailing/images/timelyupdate.gif Dear Friends, Both ladies and men are warmly invited to attend a 30 minute national conference call for a timely update on the purchase of the permanent home of the Mother Divine Program in Heavenly Mountain, North Carolina. Thursday, February 3, 7:30 PM Central Time Call in Number: 512-879-2092 Access code: 985849# Presentations include: * Raj Rajeshwari of the United States * A special message from Dr. John Hagelin, Raja of Invincible America * Raja Harris Kaplan, Raja of Invincible India * Dr. Bernie Nevas, National Co-Director of Architecture * Dr. Terry Nevas * Dr. Liz Taggart * Anita Warner You may send questions either now or during the call to mailto:email@... email@... If you are not able to be a part of this call, it will be recorded and available on our website at http://MUE-MotherDivineCapital.org/ MUE-MotherDivineCapital.org. The outpouring of support for this initiative has been so deeply appreciated! We are looking forward to the time that is fast approaching, when once again all ladies and girls can be together in the soft atmosphere of Mother Divine. Jai Guru Dev The Raj Rajeshwaris and all the members of the Mother Divine Program in North America
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
Oh come on, Joe. Turq consistently makes a logic error where he flings his displeasure at something, then proclaims not only doesn't he think it worthy, but if anyone else does it is because they have other undesirable traits, according to him. Its a set up that he does constantly, and for you to ask this seemingly innocent question is pretty disingenuous, in my opinion.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: How on earth did you come to that conclusion Billy? Is it because Barry wrote about a religion you have an affinity for perhaps? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html An increasingly shrill and sometimes threatening tide of Catholic online debate about the reasons for the sudden and unexpected Aug. 27, 2010 departure of Father Thomas Euteneuer from his post as president of Human Life International led to a flurry of official apologies, explanations and defenses of both Euteneuer's past behavior as not only the superstar of the international pro-life movement, but also an exorcist for the Catholic Church. The Internet crescendo peaked in the wake of a Jan. 27th medical emergency at HLI's Front Royal, Virginia headquarters described by emergency medical responders as a medical seizure and by some witnesses as a demonic possession of a past female associate of Father Euteneuer's. Five days later, as the Catholic blogosphere exploded with theories and accusations against the priest, attacks on both the priest's critics and alleged victims, Euteneuer broke the five months of official silence with an admission of one instance of moral failing during his performance of an exorcism. The circumstances that led to my departure from HLI were related exclusively to my own decisions and conduct within the ministry of exorcism that I carried out independently from my responsibilities at HLI, Euteneuer began in a Feb. 1 post on the website LifeSiteNews. While adding that the vast majority of my decisions and conduct, both personally and in this ministry, were morally sound and consistent with all standards of pastoral care of persons, Euteneuer added, I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful consequences, the worst of which was violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female who was under my spiritual care. Euteneuer took full responsibility for his weakness and sinful conduct but added a denial of some specific online accusations, such as the presence in a rental room in his parent's home of a woman alleged to have been the subject of repeated exorcisms by the priest. Within 24 hours both Euteneuer's bishop and Human Life International had issued statements on the matter, explaining and justifying the past silence, acknowledging the situation -- and in HLI's case adding to the mixed reaction to Euteneuer's statement with the admission of multiple accusations targeting Euteneuer, the priest's immediate admission to improprieties regarding the initial accusation, and a justification for a doctrine of silence on such matters as the direction of Catholic Canon. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for being silent about what ought not be known or for making use of a discreet language. The duty to avoid scandal often commands strict discretion. No one is bound to reveal the truth to someone who does not have the right to know it. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2489. Emphasis in the original.), the HLI statement said. Although Father Euteneuer is somewhat remorseful, it doesn't seem to me he is ready to take full responsibility for the episodes or has even grasped the full gravity of his involvement in them. For the diocese
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please join this call
turquoiseb: And don't forget, after the Holy Phone Call, to call 1-800-SPINSTER to pledge your donation. The ladies of the TM movement who have sacrificed their orgasms for your enlightenment need your support in this, their sunset years. Put down the pipe, Turq! Go to bed and get some sleep, give it a rest; you're babbling. You have no idea if any lady has an orgasms or not - you're projecting again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? You are to believe whatever the fuck you want to believe. What you believe does not affect me sufficiently to wish to influence it. I like it when you get mad Turq., (you keep your posts concise and to the point.:-).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
Actually Joe, after practicing TM for a few years I realized I could no longer go back to practicing Catholicism. Although I could see more truth in the underlying tenets of it I also discovered the glaring errors and foolish parts as well. Therefore I could no longer practice it! So much for the myth that TM and your own Religion CAN go hand in hand (they should go hand in hand, but don't). The best Religious guidelines as a TM'er are the Yama and NiYama recommendations of Patanjali (as intended). You become more Religious in your own Religion is garbage! Actually you either leave your Religion or your try to reform your 'own' Religion. Finally you realize that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas, as MMY said! A lot of TM'ers actually skip Religion all together, which is a big mistake, not what Patanjali envisioned! MMY doesn't teach Religion but Religion are the guidelines for living.sad! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@... wrote: How on earth did you come to that conclusion Billy? Is it because Barry wrote about a religion you have an affinity for perhaps? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html An increasingly shrill and sometimes threatening tide of Catholic online debate about the reasons for the sudden and unexpected Aug. 27, 2010 departure of Father Thomas Euteneuer from his post as president of Human Life International led to a flurry of official apologies, explanations and defenses of both Euteneuer's past behavior as not only the superstar of the international pro-life movement, but also an exorcist for the Catholic Church. The Internet crescendo peaked in the wake of a Jan. 27th medical emergency at HLI's Front Royal, Virginia headquarters described by emergency medical responders as a medical seizure and by some witnesses as a demonic possession of a past female associate of Father Euteneuer's. Five days later, as the Catholic blogosphere exploded with theories and accusations against the priest, attacks on both the priest's critics and alleged victims, Euteneuer broke the five months of official silence with an admission of one instance of moral failing during his performance of an exorcism. The circumstances that led to my departure from HLI were related exclusively to my own decisions and conduct within the ministry of exorcism that I carried out independently from my responsibilities at HLI, Euteneuer began in a Feb. 1 post on the website LifeSiteNews. While adding that the vast majority of my decisions and conduct, both personally and in this ministry, were morally sound and consistent with all standards of pastoral care of persons, Euteneuer added, I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful consequences, the worst of which was violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female who was under my spiritual care. Euteneuer took full responsibility for his weakness and sinful conduct but added a denial of some specific online accusations, such as the presence in a rental room in his parent's home of a woman alleged to have been the subject of repeated exorcisms by the priest. Within 24 hours both Euteneuer's bishop and Human Life International had issued statements on the matter, explaining and justifying the past silence, acknowledging the situation -- and in HLI's case adding to the mixed reaction to Euteneuer's statement with the admission of multiple accusations targeting Euteneuer, the priest's immediate admission to improprieties regarding the initial accusation, and a justification for a doctrine of silence on such matters as the direction of Catholic Canon. The good and safety of others, respect for privacy, and the common good are sufficient reasons for
[FairfieldLife] Please join this call
Dear Friends, I heartfully encourage you to JOIN THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE CALL TONIGHT. It will be inspiring, fun, and exciting, and will be more successful with the addition of your enlightened consciousness. 8:30 PM EST, 7:30 PM CST, 6:30 MT, 5:30 PT. Call 512-879-2092 When prompted, enter access code: 985849# With love Jai Guru Dev http://mue-motherdivinecapital.org/images/photo_01.jpg Timely Update http://www.motherdivine.org/emailing/images/timelyupdate.gif Dear Friends, Both ladies and men are warmly invited to attend a 30 minute national conference call for a timely update on the purchase of the permanent home of the Mother Divine Program in Heavenly Mountain, North Carolina. Thursday, February 3, 7:30 PM Central Time Call in Number: 512-879-2092 Access code: 985849# Presentations include: * Raj Rajeshwari of the United States * A special message from Dr. John Hagelin, Raja of Invincible America * Raja Harris Kaplan, Raja of Invincible India * Dr. Bernie Nevas, National Co-Director of Architecture * Dr. Terry Nevas * Dr. Liz Taggart * Anita Warner You may send questions either now or during the call to mailto:em...@anitawarner.com em...@anitawarner.com. If you are not able to be a part of this call, it will be recorded and available on our website at http://MUE-MotherDivineCapital.org/ MUE-MotherDivineCapital.org. The outpouring of support for this initiative has been so deeply appreciated! We are looking forward to the time that is fast approaching, when once again all ladies and girls can be together in the soft atmosphere of Mother Divine. Jai Guru Dev The Raj Rajeshwaris and all the members of the Mother Divine Program in North America
Re: [FairfieldLife] Paarvatii: Shiva's Judith B.?
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:20 AM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Pashupatir api taany ahaani kRcchraad agamayad adri-sutaa-samaagam-otkaH | kam aparam avashaM na viprakuryur vibhum api taM yad amii spRshanti bhaavaaH? ||95|| And the Lord of Creatures [Shiva -- card] passed those days with difficulty, Longing for union with the Mountain's daughter [adri-sutaa: Paarvatii]. When even our lord is not immune from such feelings, What ordinary, helpless man can escape the torments? -- Kaalidaasa, Kumaara-sambhava Thanks. Very good find.
[FairfieldLife] Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
From the Times of India, http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Astrology-is-a-science-Bombay-HC/articleshow/7418795.cms or http://tinyurl.com/4kcgbtc Hetal Vyas, TNN, Feb 3, 2011, 05.04pm IST MUMBAI: Astrology has been debunked by most world scientists including India's renowned physicist Prof. Yash Palhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Yash%20Pal. However, it is science in Indiahttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/India. The Bombay High Courthttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Bombay%20High%20Courtreaffirmed this on Thursday when it dismissed a PIL that had challenged astrology as science. The PIL was filed by an NGO, Janhit Manch that had sought action against 'fake' astrologers, tantriks, practitioners of Vastu shastra etc. So far as prayer related to astrology is concerned, the Supreme Courthttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Supreme%20Courthas already considered the issue and ruled that astrology is science. The court had in 2004 also directed the universities to consider if astrology science can be added to the syllabus. The decision of the apex court is binding on this court, observed the judges. The judges also took on record an affidavit submitted by the Union government. The Centre had in its affidavit stated that astrology is 4000 years old 'trusted science' and the same does not fall under the preview of The Drugs and Megical Remedies Act (Objectionable Advertisements) Act, 1954. The said Act does not cover astrology and related sciences. Astrology is a trusted science and is being practiced for over 4000 years, said an affidavit filed by Dr R Ramakrishna, deputy drug controller (India), west zone. The said Act is aimed at prohibiting misleading advertisements relating to drugs and magic remedies. The Act does not cover and / or relate to astrology and / or allied sciences like Palmistry, Vaastu Shastra etc. In view thereof, a purported ban on practices promoting astrology and related sciences sought by the petitioner, which is a time tested science more than 4000 years old is totally misconceived and unjustifiable, says the affidavit. The (PIL) filed by Janhit Manch and its convener Bhagwanji Raiyani, along with his associate Dattaram Kumkar, had questioned the validity of predictions by many well-known astrologers. The PIL, which ran into more than 100 pages pointed to several cases, including that of Indira Gandhi and Charan Singh becoming prime ministers, despite opposite predictions. Representing the Union government, advocate Advait Sethna told the court that even the SC had accepted that astrology was a science and many universities had included it as a subject. Advocate for Maharashtra government, Bharat Mehta too supported the stand taken by the Union government. Mehta submitted an affidavit filed by the food and drugs administration (FDA) department which said that necessary action is being taken against the guilty under the Drugs and Megical Remedies Act. The PIL had urged the authorities to ban articles, advertisements, episodes and practices promoting astrology and its related subjects like vastu, reiki, feng shui, tarot, palmistry, zodiac signs and rashifal.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On 02/03/2011 10:09 AM, Tom Pall wrote: From the Times of India, http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Astrology-is-a-science-Bombay-HC/articleshow/7418795.cms or http://tinyurl.com/4kcgbtc Hetal Vyas, TNN, Feb 3, 2011, 05.04pm IST MUMBAI: Astrology has been debunked by most world scientists including India's renowned physicist Prof. Yash Palhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Yash%20Pal. However, it is science in Indiahttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/India. The Bombay High Courthttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Bombay%20High%20Courtreaffirmed this on Thursday when it dismissed a PIL that had challenged astrology as science. The PIL was filed by an NGO, Janhit Manch that had sought action against 'fake' astrologers, tantriks, practitioners of Vastu shastra etc. So far as prayer related to astrology is concerned, the Supreme Courthttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/search?q=Supreme%20Courthas already considered the issue and ruled that astrology is science. The court had in 2004 also directed the universities to consider if astrology science can be added to the syllabus. The decision of the apex court is binding on this court, observed the judges. The judges also took on record an affidavit submitted by the Union government. The Centre had in its affidavit stated that astrology is 4000 years old 'trusted science' and the same does not fall under the preview of The Drugs and Megical Remedies Act (Objectionable Advertisements) Act, 1954. The said Act does not cover astrology and related sciences. Astrology is a trusted science and is being practiced for over 4000 years, said an affidavit filed by Dr R Ramakrishna, deputy drug controller (India), west zone. The said Act is aimed at prohibiting misleading advertisements relating to drugs and magic remedies. The Act does not cover and / or relate to astrology and / or allied sciences like Palmistry, Vaastu Shastra etc. In view thereof, a purported ban on practices promoting astrology and related sciences sought by the petitioner, which is a time tested science more than 4000 years old is totally misconceived and unjustifiable, says the affidavit. The (PIL) filed by Janhit Manch and its convener Bhagwanji Raiyani, along with his associate Dattaram Kumkar, had questioned the validity of predictions by many well-known astrologers. The PIL, which ran into more than 100 pages pointed to several cases, including that of Indira Gandhi and Charan Singh becoming prime ministers, despite opposite predictions. Representing the Union government, advocate Advait Sethna told the court that even the SC had accepted that astrology was a science and many universities had included it as a subject. Advocate for Maharashtra government, Bharat Mehta too supported the stand taken by the Union government. Mehta submitted an affidavit filed by the food and drugs administration (FDA) department which said that necessary action is being taken against the guilty under the Drugs and Megical Remedies Act. The PIL had urged the authorities to ban articles, advertisements, episodes and practices promoting astrology and its related subjects like vastu, reiki, feng shui, tarot, palmistry, zodiac signs and rashifal. There has not bee any really organized research in to the field of astrology. I maintain that the real effect of the planets outside of the Sun and Moon which DO have obvious effects on our environment are that the other planets were used as time markers for macro cycles that exist in natural and also express themselves through society and people. The lunar nodes though not planets also mark events especially physical because they indicate when eclipses occurs which often create major earthquakes due to the increased gravitational effect. There has been some very minor research into things like differing personalities due to being born at different times of the year and even different hours of the day. Hence a rough idea of how one will react with his or her environment as opposed to someone else born at a different time. By my theory it would also relate to the ongoing macro cycles too. Often looking at people's charts their lives DO reflect what is given in a jyotish chart. My problem with some jyotishis is some think that the planets are like puppet masters while I contend astrology is more like a weather report and will give a trend that your life may take. It can be vary useful for someone who needs reassurance that they are on the right career (or why they have taken that direction in the first place) or things like why marital relationships don't work out for them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] CNN: Could the U.S. shut down the internet? Yes
On 02/03/2011 07:43 AM, Tom Pall wrote: But it would be illegal. The government would have to call four or five top internet providers and order them to disrupt Border Gateway Protocols in a way that shut down the majority of American internet traffic. http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/03/internet.shut.down/index.html?hpt=T2 or http://tinyurl.com/4l4xlly By *John D. Sutter*, CNN February 3, 2011 10:23 a.m. EST | Filed under: Webhttp://www.cnn.com/TECH/web/archive/ It seemed so easy for Egypt. Just order a shutdown of the country's internet connections and -- bam -- it happens. But is such an authoritarian action transferable? Could the U.S. government shut down American internet connections? And is it possible for the global internet to be toppled? Technically, yes, internet experts said Wednesday, shortly after Egypt's government restored internet connections there as violent political protests continued. But it's highly unlikely. Could you break the internet? Yeah. Can you shut it down? No. Shutting down the entire internet would be pretty much impossible at this point, said Jim Cowie, co-founder of Renesys, an worldwide internet tracker. Cowie spoke of the internet as if it were a giant, adaptable worm. The funny thing about the internet is even if you break it in half, the two halves will function as [separate] internets, he said. *How Egypt shut down the internet* Understanding what happened in Egypt helps frame the discussion about what could happen to the internet in the United States or around the globe. According to internet traffic monitors and experts, Egypt's government likely called the country's five main internet service providers -- like on the phone -- late last week and ordered them to barricade online traffic. That's sort of like calling all of the post offices in the country and telling them to throw the mail away instead of delivering it, said Robert Faris, research director at Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet Society. But instead of shredding paper mail, the Egyptian internet providers altered their Border Gateway Protocols, the software that routes online information. There's not an on-off switch, Faris said. What it is, it's a list of IP addresses that route information between nodes on the internet. And what they did (in Egypt) is they changed all the software and the list in there to something called null routing. So all the traffic going in and out was essentially thrown away. Faris called these measures extreme. They have been carried out in only two other instances, he said: In Myanmar during 2007 protestshttp://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/08/13/myanmar.elections.timeline/index.html?iref=allsearch; and in Nepal in 2005, when the king seized powerhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/06/11/nepal.king/index.html?iref=allsearch . Iran and China filter the internet instead of blocking it, he said. *Could the United States do the same?* Technically, the United States could do the same thing Egypt did to block internet access, Faris said. The government would have to call four or five top internet providers and order them to disrupt Border Gateway Protocols in a way that shut down the majority of American internet traffic, he said. Others said the government would have to deal with the country's thousands of internet providers in order to fully clamp down on internet access, which would be logistically difficult. But that's unlikely to happen here, experts said. For one thing, the internet in the U.S. is bigger. There are more companies involved, more data at play and more locations where the internet comes in and out of the country. Moreover, U.S. law would prevent such an authoritarian shutdown. The internet is a network of networks, said Andrew Blum, a correspondent for CNN content partner Wired magazine and author of an upcoming book on internet infrastructure, and they're all commercially operated. They're all businesses. Their autonomy is sort of their bread and butter. And they're mostly unregulated. So the idea of having to comply fully with any government order to shut them off is pretty extreme. It's as if there were a government order to close every McDonald's -- all at once. A country's legal framework, not its technical infrastructure, determines whether it is able to shut down its citizens' access to the internet, said Cowie. It really comes down to the fact that somebody has to have the legal authority to go to a company that runs a large part of the internet in the United States and say, 'Turn off your connection to the outside world.' However, as CNET reportshttp://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20030332-281.html, three U.S. senators have submitted legislation to give the president emergency powers over the internet in the event of a cyberattack or other disaster scenario. On Wednesday, the bill's authors tried to distance
[FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: There has not bee any really organized research in to the field of astrology. And never will be, because those who make big bucks from it don't want it ever to be put under scientific scrutiny. Those who *pay* big bucks to the astrologers don't want it to ever be put under scientific scrutiny, either, because if it were they'd most likely be proven gullible idiots. Can't have that. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On 02/03/2011 11:55 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: There has not bee any really organized research in to the field of astrology. And never will be, because those who make big bucks from it don't want it ever to be put under scientific scrutiny. Not true, many of the astrological societies have been calling for it for years. Of course one has to practice astrology to see it's viability. Spectators need not apply.
[FairfieldLife] Metered Internet usage comes to Canada
Let's keep it out of the US. Canadian plans now go from a ceiling of 250GB to 25GB. Can't watch too many Netflix movies with that! And the pigs want $1.90 for each additional GB. I fear the fat boys in their Armani suits that run US telecoms are licking their chops. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/canada-gets-first-bitter-dose-of-metered-internet-billing.ars
[FairfieldLife] Re: CNN: Could the U.S. shut down the internet? Yes
I thought DHCP would stave off the address limitations of IPv4 for longer than this. I guess not.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/03/2011 07:43 AM, Tom Pall wrote: But it would be illegal. The government would have to call four or five top internet providers and order them to disrupt Border Gateway Protocols in a way that shut down the majority of American internet traffic. http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/03/internet.shut.down/index.html?hpt=T2 or http://tinyurl.com/4l4xlly By *John D. Sutter*, CNN February 3, 2011 10:23 a.m. EST | Filed under: Webhttp://www.cnn.com/TECH/web/archive/ It seemed so easy for Egypt. Just order a shutdown of the country's internet connections and -- bam -- it happens. But is such an authoritarian action transferable? Could the U.S. government shut down American internet connections? And is it possible for the global internet to be toppled? Technically, yes, internet experts said Wednesday, shortly after Egypt's government restored internet connections there as violent political protests continued. But it's highly unlikely. Could you break the internet? Yeah. Can you shut it down? No. Shutting down the entire internet would be pretty much impossible at this point, said Jim Cowie, co-founder of Renesys, an worldwide internet tracker. Cowie spoke of the internet as if it were a giant, adaptable worm. The funny thing about the internet is even if you break it in half, the two halves will function as [separate] internets, he said. *How Egypt shut down the internet* Understanding what happened in Egypt helps frame the discussion about what could happen to the internet in the United States or around the globe. According to internet traffic monitors and experts, Egypt's government likely called the country's five main internet service providers -- like on the phone -- late last week and ordered them to barricade online traffic. That's sort of like calling all of the post offices in the country and telling them to throw the mail away instead of delivering it, said Robert Faris, research director at Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet Society. But instead of shredding paper mail, the Egyptian internet providers altered their Border Gateway Protocols, the software that routes online information. There's not an on-off switch, Faris said. What it is, it's a list of IP addresses that route information between nodes on the internet. And what they did (in Egypt) is they changed all the software and the list in there to something called null routing. So all the traffic going in and out was essentially thrown away. Faris called these measures extreme. They have been carried out in only two other instances, he said: In Myanmar during 2007 protestshttp://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/08/13/myanmar.elections.timeline/index.html?iref=allsearch; and in Nepal in 2005, when the king seized powerhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/06/11/nepal.king/index.html?iref=allsearch . Iran and China filter the internet instead of blocking it, he said. *Could the United States do the same?* Technically, the United States could do the same thing Egypt did to block internet access, Faris said. The government would have to call four or five top internet providers and order them to disrupt Border Gateway Protocols in a way that shut down the majority of American internet traffic, he said. Others said the government would have to deal with the country's thousands of internet providers in order to fully clamp down on internet access, which would be logistically difficult. But that's unlikely to happen here, experts said. For one thing, the internet in the U.S. is bigger. There are more companies involved, more data at play and more locations where the internet comes in and out of the country. Moreover, U.S. law would prevent such an authoritarian shutdown. The internet is a network of networks, said Andrew Blum, a correspondent for CNN content partner Wired magazine and author of an upcoming book on internet infrastructure, and they're all commercially operated. They're all businesses. Their autonomy is sort of their bread and butter. And they're mostly unregulated. So the idea of having to comply fully with any government order to shut them off is pretty extreme. It's as if there were a government order to close every McDonald's -- all at once. A country's legal framework, not its technical infrastructure, determines whether it is able to shut down its citizens' access to the internet, said Cowie. It really comes down to the fact that somebody has to have the legal authority to go to a company that runs a large part of the internet in the United States and say, 'Turn off your connection to the outside world.' However, as CNET
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exorcising demons...with a dick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: Actually Joe, after practicing TM for a few years I realized I could no longer go back to practicing Catholicism. Billy, after having some breakthrough experiences while still being in TM, I could not go back to practising TM anymore as I used to do. What I would have considered normal TM or transcending experiences, was not possible for me anymore. That is to say, I could even make TM, but it wasn't TM anymore. Although I could see more truth in the underlying tenets of it I also discovered the glaring errors and foolish parts as well. After understanding that TM has helped me to come to this point, I also realised, that apart from this experience, I was carrying along a baggage of TM mindset, the theory, the dogma. Therefore I could no longer practice it! Neither could I, even if I wanted to or pretended to. That not withstanding I could still think the mantra, or the sutras, but they had no other effect than if I would just sit still, do any other mantra, or do in fact nothing. So much for the myth that TM and your own Religion CAN go hand in hand (they should go hand in hand, but don't). So much for the fact that TM is the best, superior and ultimate technique. The best Religious guidelines as a TM'er are the Yama and NiYama recommendations of Patanjali (as intended). You become more Religious in your own Religion is garbage! The Truth is in fact, that you become more religious in ALL religions, any, and that you don't have an 'own' religion anymore. Actually you either leave your Religion or your try to reform your 'own' Religion. Finally you realize that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas, as MMY said! A lot of TM'ers actually skip Religion all together, which is a big mistake, not what Patanjali envisioned! MMY doesn't teach Religion but Religion are the guidelines for living.sad! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: How on earth did you come to that conclusion Billy? Is it because Barry wrote about a religion you have an affinity for perhaps? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: Are we to believe then, Turq, that you are superior to this priest? and therefor so is your Religion/Theology? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: If you're Catholic, and either a young attractive woman or a younger attractive boy, you might want to think twice before having that pesky demon that's been bothering you exorcised by a priest. They might have a different idea of the proper...uh...tool to use to dislodge it than you do, and where exactly in your body the demon is hiding out. I'm fascinated by the last lines of this excerpt from a Huffpost article below; the demon in question finally seems to have fled after two priests got...uh...on board during the exorcism. Do we conclude from this that demons fear group sex? :-) Controversy Remains After Priest's Confession Of Sexual Indiscretion During Exorcism http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-bianchini/controversy-remains-after\ _b_817613.html An increasingly shrill and sometimes threatening tide of Catholic online debate about the reasons for the sudden and unexpected Aug. 27, 2010 departure of Father Thomas Euteneuer from his post as president of Human Life International led to a flurry of official apologies, explanations and defenses of both Euteneuer's past behavior as not only the superstar of the international pro-life movement, but also an exorcist for the Catholic Church. The Internet crescendo peaked in the wake of a Jan. 27th medical emergency at HLI's Front Royal, Virginia headquarters described by emergency medical responders as a medical seizure and by some witnesses as a demonic possession of a past female associate of Father Euteneuer's. Five days later, as the Catholic blogosphere exploded with theories and accusations against the priest, attacks on both the priest's critics and alleged victims, Euteneuer broke the five months of official silence with an admission of one instance of moral failing during his performance of an exorcism. The circumstances that led to my departure from HLI were related exclusively to my own decisions and conduct within the ministry of exorcism that I carried out independently from my responsibilities at HLI, Euteneuer began in a Feb. 1 post on the website LifeSiteNews. While adding that the vast majority of my decisions and conduct, both personally and in this ministry, were morally sound and consistent with all standards of pastoral care of persons, Euteneuer added, I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful
[FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
I second that ... on the practice. It works for me, having consulted astrological transits for decades. To add: (a) takes advantage of correlations, but generally avoids the question of causation. (b) Extremely rare - are astrologers who are psychic, since predictive astrology is good at general trends but not specific events. Therefore, something like during X transit, you will have a good chance of getting a job; but a psychic will tack on the yes, you will get a job, probably in the week of. If you meet up with an astrologer who is also psychic, don't let him/her of your sight. (c) remedial measures usually accompany Indian and Chinese astrology but in general, Western astrology doesn't traditionally get into remedies; at least until more recent years with influences from the East. As to remedies, naturally these will cost you more; so make sure the remedial measures are charged by a powerful Guru. (d) Western astrology has an advantage is determining the precise location of planets and bodies such as Pluto as well as various moons, asteroids, and stars. Thus, although Vedic Seers may be aware of the trans-Saturnian planets (and Pluto); they may be also gain added information by using Western technology to find out precise positions. Vedic astrologers (not having such information) may attempt to downplay the influences of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto; but do so at their own risk, since these bodies can be predictive of very powerful influences (i.e. act through correlations, not necessarily emanating influential vibes which cause events to occur). ... http://www.redbubble.com/people/surrealismart/art/1588848-1-mindscape-or-virtual-reality-dreamscape --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/03/2011 11:55 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: There has not bee any really organized research in to the field of astrology. And never will be, because those who make big bucks from it don't want it ever to be put under scientific scrutiny. Not true, many of the astrological societies have been calling for it for years. Of course one has to practice astrology to see it's viability. Spectators need not apply.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 02/03/2011 11:55 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: There has not bee any really organized research in to the field of astrology. And never will be, because those who make big bucks from it don't want it ever to be put under scientific scrutiny. Not true, many of the astrological societies have been calling for it for years. Of course one has to practice astrology to see it's viability. Spectators need not apply. How do you define the practice of something that has no recognized guidelines, no oversight, etc, Bhair? How does that work? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Black currant extract health benefits
-Subject: Black currant extract health benefits http://www.justtheberries.co.nz/blackcurrants.php?pg=86
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paarvatii: Shiva's Judith B.?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:20 AM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Pashupatir api taany ahaani kRcchraad agamayad adri-sutaa-samaagam-otkaH | kam aparam avashaM na viprakuryur vibhum api taM yad amii spRshanti bhaavaaH? ||95|| And the Lord of Creatures [Shiva -- card] passed those days with difficulty, Longing for union with the Mountain's daughter [adri-sutaa: Paarvatii]. When even our lord is not immune from such feelings, What ordinary, helpless man can escape the torments? -- Kaalidaasa, Kumaara-sambhava Thanks. Very good find. From Michael Coulson's Sanskrit primer, the final chapter. Writes Coulson: Kaalidaasa, in almost every estimation the greatest of Sanskrit poets, wrote both plays and poems. Among the latter are [...] and Kumaara-sambhava 'The birth of Kumaara'. Kumaara (lit. 'the Prince') is another name of Skanda or Kaarttikeya, god of war and son of the mighty god Shiva.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On 02/03/2011 01:29 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 02/03/2011 11:55 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: There has not bee any really organized research in to the field of astrology. And never will be, because those who make big bucks from it don't want it ever to be put under scientific scrutiny. Not true, many of the astrological societies have been calling for it for years. Of course one has to practice astrology to see it's viability. Spectators need not apply. How do you define the practice of something that has no recognized guidelines, no oversight, etc, Bhair? How does that work? Sal What unrecognized guidelines are you speaking of? There are variants and schools of teaching throughout India but they often have commonalities. ACVA, the American Council of Vedic Astrologers tried to institutionalize it by setting up a college. People like to read their daily horoscopes in the newspapers and online but those are usually too general for much of any insight. And the (not so) Amazing Randi tried to disprove astrology based on those sun sign charts. But to my knowledge he never tried it with actual horoscopes which include the rising sign. I suspect like Ayurveda there are a bunch soured people on FFL who didn't get the results they expected or even had an inexperienced jyotishi do their chart. It's a little difference if you get the horoscope done by very experienced Indian astrologers, who BTW don't often charge as much as US astrologers and some don't want to charge at all.
[FairfieldLife] Lost Civilizations beneath Persian Gulf
-- Subject: Lost Civilization beneath Persian Gulf http://www.livescience.com/history/lost-civilization-possibly-existed-beneath-persian-gulf-101209.html - Subject: Lost Civilizations. http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=107146
[FairfieldLife] Man Says Parkinson's Drug Made Him Addicted to Gambling and Gay Sex
I'm not posting this for the sensational value but because of the implications of a drug, a prescription drug no less, might have on perception and behavior. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodResourceCenter/man-parkinsons-drug-requip-made-addicted-gambling-gay/story?id=12813788page=1 http://tinyurl.com/49p3drn
[FairfieldLife] My life with TM and Something Good Is Happening
I feel so drawn to this article: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/30/3362727/death-by-gps-in-desert.html 'Death by GPS' in desert People told me that those glimmers of bliss, the unstressing, the discomfort showed that something good was happening. I've lived good life despite it all, despite buying that GPS in 1973. Five harrowing days after becoming stuck on a remote backcountry road in Death Valley National Park in August 2009, Alicia Sanchez lay down next to her Jeep Cherokee and prepared to die. Then she heard a voice. I called as I approached, asking if she was okay, wrote Ranger Amber Nattrass in a park report. She was waving frantically and screaming, 'My baby is dead, my baby is dead.' In the SUV, Nattrass found Sanchez's lifeless 6-year-old son Carlos on the front seat. She told me they walked 10 miles but couldn't find any help (and) … had run out of water and had been drinking their own urine, Nattrass wrote. She turned down a wrong road, Nattrass said in a recent interview. She said she was following her GPS unit. Danger has long stalked those who venture into California's desert in the heat of summer. But today, with more people pouring into the region, technology and tragedy are mixing in new and unexpected ways. It's what I'm beginning to call death by GPS, said Death Valley wilderness coordinator Charlie Callagan. People are renting vehicles with GPS and they have no idea how it works and they are willing to trust the GPS to lead them into the middle of nowhere. The number of people visiting Death Valley in the summer, when temperatures often exceed 120 degrees, has soared from 97,000 in 1985 to 257,500 in 2009. That pattern holds at Joshua Tree as well, which recorded 128,000 visitors in the summer of 1988. Last year: 230,000. With another potentially deadly summer season approaching, Death Valley managers now are adding heat danger warnings to dozens of new wayside exhibits and working with technology companies to remove closed and hazardous roads from GPS units. They also have posted warnings on the park's website, telling visitors not to rely on cell phones or GPS units. It's important for people to know that only a tiny portion of Death Valley has cell phone reception, search and rescue coordinator Micah Alley wrote in an e-mail. GPS units are not only fallible but send people across the desert where no road exists. Over the past 15 years, at least a dozen people have died in Death Valley from heat-related illnesses, and many others have come close. Another hiker vanished last June in Joshua Tree National Park. His body has not yet been found. These are not just stories of unimaginable suffering. They are reminders that even with a growing suite of digital devices at our side, technology cannot guarantee survival in the wild. Worse, it is giving many a false sense of security and luring some into danger and death. Technology, of course, is not the only denominator to those disasters. Others include poor planning, faulty judgment, bad luck and the lemming-like rush of visitors to Death Valley in the summer, many of them unfamiliar with the danger – making heat-related illness and fatalities nearly as predictable as the searing temperatures. We expect it every summer, said Callagan. It's actually more unusual to end up without any deaths. It seems like we have one or two every summer. Danger soars in summerMuch of the year, Death Valley is actually more lovely than life-threatening. That is especially true in the spring, when silver ribbons of water splash down canyon walls and dozens of species of wildflowers, from Mojave asters to Indian paintbrush, bloom in technicolor abandon. But summer is a different story. The park map is dotted with names suggesting the danger, such as Deadman Pass, Coffin Peak, the Funeral Mountains and the Devil's Golf Course. It's hard to appreciate what 120 degrees is like and how quickly you can get into trouble if you are exposed to it for any length of time, said Scott Wanek, chief ranger for the Pacific West Region of the National Park Service. No disaster makes that point more tragically than the disappearance of four German tourists – two adults and two boys, ages 3 and 10 – whose rental van became stuck on a remote road in Death Valley during an intense heat wave in July 1996 and who were never heard from again. Their fate remained a mystery until November 2009, when Tom Mahood, a retired engineer and search-and-rescue volunteer, and a colleague, Les Walker, discovered human bones, the woman's wallet and other items in an isolated corner of the park near Butte Valley. It's very scenic and remote but a really awful place to die, said Mahood on a six-mile hike earlier this month through the rugged backcountry of Joshua Tree National Park, where he was searching for Atlanta businessman Bill Ewasko, who vanished last June. People don't just disappear, said Mahood, who spent countless hours searching for the Germans long after others
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers.NAZIS TACTICS-RICK ARCHER RESPONSIBLE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: You are making accusations without saying anything substantial, and you are buying into a lot of bs when you say that people bought their way into anything, they made a very self sacrificing donation is what they did. Shukra, would you care to comment about the accumulated wealth of Maharishi's family in India? Thats exactly the tactic of Goebbels and the Nazis, tell the BIG LIES over and over again until people accept them as received truth. This is the tactic of Rick Archer's newsgroup. No-one in the TMO ever made Rick Archer work forced labour until death is a blessing or did medical experiments on him or his family or took away all his wealth and forced him into exile. No one took away his right to free speech or invaded his country. He has no right to call anyone in the TMO a Nazi. Not exactly living up to your expectations as to how an organization or individuals should behave does not qualify. When you call people Nazis you are inviting others to victimize them. If you can't recognize that it is because you are LYING TO YOURSELF. If people state lies and defamations, slanders and baseless allegations ANONYMOUSLY in your newsgroup you are responsible for that as if you wrote it yourself. Harm is being done and you are morally responsible for that harm. Anyone who would allow this does not conform to the moral and ethical responsibility of a journalist and can never be considered one. He is not even being an ethical entertainer. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR MORAL FAILURE RICK ARCHER
Re: [FairfieldLife] Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: There has not bee any really organized research in to the field of astrology. I maintain that the real effect of the planets outside of the Sun and Moon which DO have obvious effects on our environment are that the other planets were used as time markers for macro cycles that exist in natural and also express themselves through society and people. SNIP Yes, I can see this. I can also see, in hindsight, how W.D. Gann was able to time the trade of a couple years long futures contract. Gann could have had good intuition or was just lucky. Take the price of anything versus time. Apply the Fibonacci Sequence, Gann angles, square price with time. I've looked at all of Gann's published techniques. The only thing I'm able to reliably predict using all of these techniques is that exactly a week from today it'll again be Thursday. How does it go, the stock market has predicted 7 out of the last five US recessions? Such a coincidence that a report saying the Fort Hood slaughter warning signs were overlooked. Yeah. It's hard to predict things. Especially the future.
[FairfieldLife] Hitler mocking dog Jackie
Tor Borg and Jackie, the Hitler-mocking dog http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12139150
[FairfieldLife] L.A. Temple Tour
(a place I used to visit): Hare Krishna Temple in Culver City. http://lalive.info/slideshows/Album51.htm
[FairfieldLife] Hare Krishna Guru
http://lalive.info/lalive/lalive.htm Shown - Deities and plaster rendition AC Bhaktivedanta Swami. Can't say much for his theology but I kind of liked the guy. Cute the way he would refer to MMY as a thief and charlatan. Two weeks before he died, he appeared to me in a dream in a horse-drawn chariot, saying goodbye. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@... wrote: (a place I used to visit): Hare Krishna Temple in Culver City. http://lalive.info/slideshows/Album51.htm
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote: suspect like Ayurveda there are a bunch soured people on FFL who didn't get the results they expected or even had an inexperienced jyotishi do their chart. It's a little difference if you get the horoscope done by very experienced Indian astrologers, who BTW don't often charge as much as US astrologers and some don't want to charge at all. I had mine done by one of the best, supposedly, very experienced and who gave definite specifics, and it was so off it was laughable. Beyond that I've seen no evidence, as several others have pointed out, that the reliability is any greater than pure chance. The reason they usually lapse into generalities, of course, is those can be interpreted almost any way you want. I've met any number of jyotishis as well as western astrologers, and I've seen no evidence there's any kind of science behind any of it. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers.NAZIS TACTICS-RICK ARCHER RESPONSIBLE
On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:37 PM, shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: You are making accusations without saying anything substantial, and you are buying into a lot of bs when you say that people bought their way into anything, they made a very self sacrificing donation is what they did. Shukra, would you care to comment about the accumulated wealth of Maharishi's family in India? Thats exactly the tactic of Goebbels and the Nazis, tell the BIG LIES over and over again until people accept them as received truth. This is the tactic of Rick Archer's newsgroup. No-one in the TMO ever made Rick Archer work forced labour until death is a blessing or did medical experiments on him or his family or took away all his wealth and forced him into exile. No one took away his right to free speech or invaded his country. He has no right to call anyone in the TMO a Nazi. Not exactly living up to your expectations as to how an organization or individuals should behave does not qualify. When you call people Nazis you are inviting others to victimize them. If you can't recognize that it is because you are LYING TO YOURSELF. If people state lies and defamations, slanders and baseless allegations ANONYMOUSLY in your newsgroup you are responsible for that as if you wrote it yourself. Harm is being done and you are morally responsible for that harm. Anyone who would allow this does not conform to the moral and ethical responsibility of a journalist and can never be considered one. He is not even being an ethical entertainer. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR MORAL FAILURE RICK ARCHE LOL. It would help if you responded with some quotes from the person you're addressing, not just go off on some wild unstressing tangent dude!
Re: [FairfieldLife] My life with TM and Something Good Is Happening
On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Tom Pall wrote: People told me that those glimmers of bliss, the unstressing, the discomfort showed that something good was happening. I've lived good life despite it all, despite buying that GPS in 1973. The first GPS satellite was launched in 1978.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers.NAZIS TACTICS-RICK ARCHER RESPONSIBLE
WTF? Rick didn't call anybody a Nazi. Shukra , you seem a little nutty around the edges. Peter On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:37 PM, shukra69 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: You are making accusations without saying anything substantial, and you are buying into a lot of bs when you say that people bought their way into anything, they made a very self sacrificing donation is what they did. Shukra, would you care to comment about the accumulated wealth of Maharishi's family in India? Thats exactly the tactic of Goebbels and the Nazis, tell the BIG LIES over and over again until people accept them as received truth. This is the tactic of Rick Archer's newsgroup. No-one in the TMO ever made Rick Archer work forced labour until death is a blessing or did medical experiments on him or his family or took away all his wealth and forced him into exile. No one took away his right to free speech or invaded his country. He has no right to call anyone in the TMO a Nazi. Not exactly living up to your expectations as to how an organization or individuals should behave does not qualify. When you call people Nazis you are inviting others to victimize them. If you can't recognize that it is because you are LYING TO YOURSELF. If people state lies and defamations, slanders and baseless allegations ANONYMOUSLY in your newsgroup you are responsible for that as if you wrote it yourself. Harm is being done and you are morally responsible for that harm. Anyone who would allow this does not conform to the moral and ethical responsibility of a journalist and can never be considered one. He is not even being an ethical entertainer. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR MORAL FAILURE RICK ARCHE LOL. It would help if you responded with some quotes from the person you're addressing, not just go off on some wild unstressing tangent dude! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
They were probably doing it wrong. I no longer have a program, but if any astrologers are reading this, maybe they could do some transits for you. In steps: (a) look at your natal chart for malefic aspects; typically hard angles (oppositions, squares) to your natal planets. Among the most malefic are (for example): Saturn or trans-Saturnian planets with hard angles to your inner planetssay Saturn Sq. Mars - generally not good. Could involve deficiencies of a karmic nature needing more work. (b) Next, look at current transits, especially those which may resonate with natal configurations; using (a) as an example; Saturn will be transiting Mars from This type of transit (outer planet to inner) would act as a type of hour hand on a clock. (c) the minute hand would involve Mars transits, lasting maybe 4-5 days. Watch out for Mars! This planet may trigger the outer planets with more specific time periods to be careful of. (d) Influences a-c can be mollified a bit by Venus and Mercury. (e) Finally, the second hand of the astrological clock could be represented by the Moon, lending more predictive power to a precise time of a day. ... But again, very few astrologers are expert psychics. http://www.fantasygallery.net/wetter/art_3_the-messenger.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote: suspect like Ayurveda there are a bunch soured people on FFL who didn't get the results they expected or even had an inexperienced jyotishi do their chart. It's a little difference if you get the horoscope done by very experienced Indian astrologers, who BTW don't often charge as much as US astrologers and some don't want to charge at all. I had mine done by one of the best, supposedly, very experienced and who gave definite specifics, and it was so off it was laughable. Beyond that I've seen no evidence, as several others have pointed out, that the reliability is any greater than pure chance. The reason they usually lapse into generalities, of course, is those can be interpreted almost any way you want. I've met any number of jyotishis as well as western astrologers, and I've seen no evidence there's any kind of science behind any of it. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote: suspect like Ayurveda there are a bunch soured people on FFL who didn't get the results they expected or even had an inexperienced jyotishi do their chart. It's a little difference if you get the horoscope done by very experienced Indian astrologers, who BTW don't often charge as much as US astrologers and some don't want to charge at all. I had mine done by one of the best, supposedly, very experienced and who gave definite specifics, and it was so off it was laughable. Me, too. I went to one of the biggies who was working for the TMO at the time - back in the early 90's. Nothing accurate about it. I later heard that the TMO-paid jyotishis were given specific guidelines and told not to say certain things, etc. But, I had one of my sons' chart done when he was very ill about 7 years ago. The dates we were given for his illness and for his future getting better, slowly over the next 6 years, were exactly accurate. I mean totally accurate not only to the year and month, but almost to the day. We were desperate to get some sense of the prognosis and the illness in his life. Other predictions in his chart - like getting back to college - were also right on. My husband thinks astrology is a crock, but even he admits the dates turned out to be accurate. The guy who did this accurate reading is James Kelleher. I think he is a former TM teacher who back in the early 70's left MMY and went and studied astrology in India. He lives in California now. The other person who had the same dates and info (yes, I had his chart done twice) is Howard Beckman. Beyond that I've seen no evidence, as several others have pointed out, that the reliability is any greater than pure chance. The reason they usually lapse into generalities, of course, is those can be interpreted almost any way you want. I've met any number of jyotishis as well as western astrologers, and I've seen no evidence there's any kind of science behind any of it. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
Science or not, I am not one who wants to know this stuff. I couldn't care less if someone could tell me what was going to happen tomorrow. As the expression goes, Life Happens, and I enjoy far more letting that occur vs. astrology. I have looked at it casually though, and there is a lot to get into. If so inclined, it is probably a fascinating study.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Bhairitu wrote: suspect like Ayurveda there are a bunch soured people on FFL who didn't get the results they expected or even had an inexperienced jyotishi do their chart. It's a little difference if you get the horoscope done by very experienced Indian astrologers, who BTW don't often charge as much as US astrologers and some don't want to charge at all. I had mine done by one of the best, supposedly, very experienced and who gave definite specifics, and it was so off it was laughable. Beyond that I've seen no evidence, as several others have pointed out, that the reliability is any greater than pure chance. The reason they usually lapse into generalities, of course, is those can be interpreted almost any way you want. I've met any number of jyotishis as well as western astrologers, and I've seen no evidence there's any kind of science behind any of it. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] My life with TM and Something Good Is Happening
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Tom Pall wrote: People told me that those glimmers of bliss, the unstressing, the discomfort showed that something good was happening. I've lived good life despite it all, despite buying that GPS in 1973. The first GPS satellite was launched in 1978. Vaj, I was speaking metaphorically.But I can reply to you another way. See how far I went out on a limb? I bought a GPS 5 years before the first GPS satellite was launched. I don't quite remember when the GPS satellites stopped being encrypted for DOD use. Heck. There was enough noise on that old unencrypted feed that one could almost decide that MUM should be somewhere in Kansas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hare Krishna Guru
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:11 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: http://lalive.info/lalive/lalive.htm Shown - Deities and plaster rendition AC Bhaktivedanta Swami. Can't say much for his theology but I kind of liked the guy. Cute the way he would refer to MMY as a thief and charlatan. Two weeks before he died, he appeared to me in a dream in a horse-drawn chariot, saying goodbye. Thanks, I would have liked to see that but I have a hard and fast rule against enabling x-scripting on more than 2 URLs at a time. Man. Did you see the URLs you have allow to take over your browser/box to? 5 of them. Egregious!
[FairfieldLife] Dome Numbers
Calling all Rajas and Rajinis
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:51 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Science or not, I am not one who wants to know this stuff. I couldn't care less if someone could tell me what was going to happen tomorrow. As the expression goes, Life Happens, and I enjoy far more letting that occur vs. astrology. I have looked at it casually though, and there is a lot to get into. I'm sure there is, just as there undoubtedly was a lot to get into in the past in the fields of alchemy and fortune-telling. There is usually a whole lot of $$ to be made off of suckers, and a seemingly endless supply of them. If so inclined, it is probably a fascinating study.:-) Undoubtedly, though not in the way I believe you mean. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: When Rory says we are lying about Reality, is this his way of explaining pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect or is he framing it as lying to persuade us that he understands better than anyone why people suffer? Hubris or unaware of his own motive, need, insistence to share? * * * Raunchy, I loved this post of yours. Yes, what I have been calling lying is indeed pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect! It is that part of us that most furiously desires to be *right* -- and yet can never be right while it is trapped in spacetime. Many thanks; you put it in a nutshell. As to understanding better than anyone -- there appear to be many who understand the mechanics far more clearly than I do! As I have mentioned, my main motive here is to bring up previously unconscious parts of myself into awareness so that I can fully integrate them in Love, and this conversation has accomplished that most beautifully.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God
http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_artFileName=BeCarefullWhatyouAskFor --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: When Rory says we are lying about Reality, is this his way of explaining pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect or is he framing it as lying to persuade us that he understands better than anyone why people suffer? Hubris or unaware of his own motive, need, insistence to share? * * * Raunchy, I loved this post of yours. Yes, what I have been calling lying is indeed pragyaparadh, the mistake of the intellect! It is that part of us that most furiously desires to be *right* -- and yet can never be right while it is trapped in spacetime. Many thanks; you put it in a nutshell. As to understanding better than anyone -- there appear to be many who understand the mechanics far more clearly than I do! As I have mentioned, my main motive here is to bring up previously unconscious parts of myself into awareness so that I can fully integrate them in Love, and this conversation has accomplished that most beautifully.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers.NAZIS TACTICS-RICK ARCHER RESPONSIBLE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Davidlowrendezvous.png --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: You are making accusations without saying anything substantial, and you are buying into a lot of bs when you say that people bought their way into anything, they made a very self sacrificing donation is what they did. Shukra, would you care to comment about the accumulated wealth of Maharishi's family in India? Thats exactly the tactic of Goebbels and the Nazis, tell the BIG LIES over and over again until people accept them as received truth. This is the tactic of Rick Archer's newsgroup. No-one in the TMO ever made Rick Archer work forced labour until death is a blessing or did medical experiments on him or his family or took away all his wealth and forced him into exile. No one took away his right to free speech or invaded his country. He has no right to call anyone in the TMO a Nazi. Not exactly living up to your expectations as to how an organization or individuals should behave does not qualify. When you call people Nazis you are inviting others to victimize them. If you can't recognize that it is because you are LYING TO YOURSELF. If people state lies and defamations, slanders and baseless allegations ANONYMOUSLY in your newsgroup you are responsible for that as if you wrote it yourself. Harm is being done and you are morally responsible for that harm. Anyone who would allow this does not conform to the moral and ethical responsibility of a journalist and can never be considered one. He is not even being an ethical entertainer. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR MORAL FAILURE RICK ARCHER
[FairfieldLife] Expansion of Happiness is the Purpose of Creation
http://www.redbubble.com/people/surrealismart/art/1588737-1-arrested-expansion-or-cardiac-arrest
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers.NAZIS TACTICS-RICK ARCHER RESPONSIBLE
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/dove.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@... wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Davidlowrendezvous.png --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: You are making accusations without saying anything substantial, and you are buying into a lot of bs when you say that people bought their way into anything, they made a very self sacrificing donation is what they did. Shukra, would you care to comment about the accumulated wealth of Maharishi's family in India? Thats exactly the tactic of Goebbels and the Nazis, tell the BIG LIES over and over again until people accept them as received truth. This is the tactic of Rick Archer's newsgroup. No-one in the TMO ever made Rick Archer work forced labour until death is a blessing or did medical experiments on him or his family or took away all his wealth and forced him into exile. No one took away his right to free speech or invaded his country. He has no right to call anyone in the TMO a Nazi. Not exactly living up to your expectations as to how an organization or individuals should behave does not qualify. When you call people Nazis you are inviting others to victimize them. If you can't recognize that it is because you are LYING TO YOURSELF. If people state lies and defamations, slanders and baseless allegations ANONYMOUSLY in your newsgroup you are responsible for that as if you wrote it yourself. Harm is being done and you are morally responsible for that harm. Anyone who would allow this does not conform to the moral and ethical responsibility of a journalist and can never be considered one. He is not even being an ethical entertainer. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR MORAL FAILURE RICK ARCHER
[FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
Yeah, I don't know enough to say whether it is legit or not.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:51 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Science or not, I am not one who wants to know this stuff. I couldn't care less if someone could tell me what was going to happen tomorrow. As the expression goes, Life Happens, and I enjoy far more letting that occur vs. astrology. I have looked at it casually though, and there is a lot to get into. I'm sure there is, just as there undoubtedly was a lot to get into in the past in the fields of alchemy and fortune-telling. There is usually a whole lot of $$ to be made off of suckers, and a seemingly endless supply of them. If so inclined, it is probably a fascinating study.:-) Undoubtedly, though not in the way I believe you mean. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology is a science: Bombay HC
On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:11 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Yeah, I don't know enough to say whether it is legit or not.:-) Right. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hare Krishna Guru
Based on the festivals I've attended in San Francisco, there appears to be two factions within ISKCON that are competing for members or devotees. This seems to be fate of most vedic organizations when the guru dies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@... wrote: http://lalive.info/lalive/lalive.htm Shown - Deities and plaster rendition AC Bhaktivedanta Swami. Can't say much for his theology but I kind of liked the guy. Cute the way he would refer to MMY as a thief and charlatan. Two weeks before he died, he appeared to me in a dream in a horse-drawn chariot, saying goodbye. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: (a place I used to visit): Hare Krishna Temple in Culver City. http://lalive.info/slideshows/Album51.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Metered Internet usage comes to Canada
Looks like the gov't will overturen the regulator that made the decision allowing it. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/canada-rebuffs-bce-on-internet-billing-by-overturning-regulator.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Let's keep it out of the US. Canadian plans now go from a ceiling of 250GB to 25GB. Can't watch too many Netflix movies with that! And the pigs want $1.90 for each additional GB. I fear the fat boys in their Armani suits that run US telecoms are licking their chops. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/canada-gets-first-bitter-dose-of-metered-internet-billing.ars
