[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Watching this video from UFO Phil, the former alien
 abductee who says he'll assume the Presidency of the
 US (and the Earth) without a single vote, I found 
 myself wondering if Phil were our own Nabby. Watch
 the video and decide for yourself.
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/ufo-phil-for-president_n_1289440.html


I'm disapointed. The text seemed promising. Particularily the idea of building 
a gigantic pyramid behind the Hollywood sign and replacing the Statue of 
Liberty with a Monument of Zaxon. 
The video revealed a phony :-(



[FairfieldLife] Laughing Yoga for politics:Dawn of a new era of politics?

2012-02-23 Thread merudanda
A verbal ball to improvise as experiencing the Trinity of God,politics
and posting at FFL
We all have so many resources retained in us. Subjecting us to so many
restrictions, individually and in the system. This creates frustration,
paralyzes. Art and fun can encourage and demonstrate to break out of our
narrow limits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obg_sdo5uFo
Icelander's Campaign Is a Joke, Until He's Elected
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/world/europe/26iceland.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiKpVylV_8

The interaction between politics and cabaret are numerous and often
deliberate. Jon Gnarr, mayor of Reykjavik, Munich mayor Christian Ude,
Beppe Grillo, a comedian and star party leader in Italy, are just three
examples of the bizarre combination.
Beppe Grillo interview
Could Italy's answer to Michael Moore possibly be his country's next
PrimeMinister?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/comedy/8362260/Beppe-Grillo-i\
nterview.html
  [182]
They fight against boredom and disenchantment with politics. When
comedians go into politics, they want to stifle creativity and humor
where otherwise dreary meetings and records the daily routine work.
Voters sometimes give them a chance. Mostly, if unconventional solutions
are then announced  by Jon Gnarr, mayor of Reykjavik, Beppe Grillo, a
comedian and star party leader in Italy, they all bring their audience
to laugh - even outside the office.

And even politicians, such as Munich's mayor Christian Ude occur in the
spotlight of the cabaret. It's about  unmasking the false policy of the
professional politician cares so much. It is an ambivalent relationship
between the constraints of the politician and the unmasking of the
cabaret humor telling us how good it is to draw from the full can, once
you sit at the source from which supplies the cabaret.
Good example is Jon Gnarr - from actor to the original Mayor Europe. For
9 months he ruled Reykjavik. Dawn of a new era of politics?
As Mayor Gnarr he is committed to:
+ Continuous visibility

+ Free towels at all swimming pools

+ A polar bear at the zoo

+ For only ONE Santa Claus

+ All kinds of misfortune

+ A drug-free Parliament in 2020

As he and the contractor / interior, bankers, etc. get along?
I entertain companies.
He uses his power, where it is possible. Calmly, disarmingly, radical,
playful.

One of his favorite initiatives, since he is the mayor, is aGood day
day. In a television spot, where he is seen grimacing, he calls for the
wish to Good Day in honor of the good-day tags. And whether or not
it also be possible, the good day day more often than twice a year to
celebrate one - perhaps even daily?
Sure all of them,Munich's mayor Christian Ude , Jon Gnarr, mayor of
Reykjavik, Beppe Grillo, are interested  in further suggestion from FFL-
Fairy Field Light  [:D] forever



[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Watching this video from UFO Phil, the former alien
  abductee who says he'll assume the Presidency of the
  US (and the Earth) without a single vote, I found 
  myself wondering if Phil were our own Nabby. Watch
  the video and decide for yourself.
  
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/ufo-phil-for-president_n_1289440.html
 
 I'm disapointed. The text seemed promising. Particularily the 
 idea of building a gigantic pyramid behind the Hollywood sign 
 and replacing the Statue of Liberty with a Monument of Zaxon. 
 The video revealed a phony :-(

How exactly could you tell? Was there some lack of
credulity in his presentation? Improper aura? Costume
too garish? Maybe this clip of Benjamin Creme channeling 
Maitreya on Bill Maher's show is more...uh...promising.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi68lzwzYM





[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing Yoga for politics:Dawn of a new era of politics?

2012-02-23 Thread merudanda
ooops forget to mention:  Jon Gnarr promised not to keep his campaign
promises: [:D]

+ Continuous visibility

+ Free towels at all swimming pools

+ A polar bear at the zoo

+ For only ONE Santa Claus

+ All kinds of misfortune

+ A drug-free Parliament in 2020
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 A verbal ball to improvise as experiencing the Trinity of God,politics
 and posting at FFL
 We all have so many resources retained in us. Subjecting us to so many
 restrictions, individually and in the system. This creates
frustration,
 paralyzes. Art and fun can encourage and demonstrate to break out of
our
 narrow limits.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obg_sdo5uFo
 Icelander's Campaign Is a Joke, Until He's Elected
 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/world/europe/26iceland.html

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiKpVylV_8

 The interaction between politics and cabaret are numerous and often
 deliberate. Jon Gnarr, mayor of Reykjavik, Munich mayor Christian Ude,
 Beppe Grillo, a comedian and star party leader in Italy, are just
three
 examples of the bizarre combination.
 Beppe Grillo interview
 Could Italy's answer to Michael Moore possibly be his country's next
 PrimeMinister?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/comedy/8362260/Beppe-Grillo-i\
\
 nterview.html
   [182]
 They fight against boredom and disenchantment with politics. When
 comedians go into politics, they want to stifle creativity and humor
 where otherwise dreary meetings and records the daily routine work.
 Voters sometimes give them a chance. Mostly, if unconventional
solutions
 are then announced  by Jon Gnarr, mayor of Reykjavik, Beppe Grillo, a
 comedian and star party leader in Italy, they all bring their audience
 to laugh - even outside the office.

 And even politicians, such as Munich's mayor Christian Ude occur in
the
 spotlight of the cabaret. It's about  unmasking the false policy of
the
 professional politician cares so much. It is an ambivalent
relationship
 between the constraints of the politician and the unmasking of the
 cabaret humor telling us how good it is to draw from the full can,
once
 you sit at the source from which supplies the cabaret.
 Good example is Jon Gnarr - from actor to the original Mayor Europe.
For
 9 months he ruled Reykjavik. Dawn of a new era of politics?
 As Mayor Gnarr he is committed to:
 + Continuous visibility

 + Free towels at all swimming pools

 + A polar bear at the zoo

 + For only ONE Santa Claus

 + All kinds of misfortune

 + A drug-free Parliament in 2020

 As he and the contractor / interior, bankers, etc. get along?
 I entertain companies.
 He uses his power, where it is possible. Calmly, disarmingly, radical,
 playful.

 One of his favorite initiatives, since he is the mayor, is aGood day
 day. In a television spot, where he is seen grimacing, he calls for
the
 wish to Good Day in honor of the good-day tags. And whether or not
 it also be possible, the good day day more often than twice a year
to
 celebrate one - perhaps even daily?
 Sure all of them,Munich's mayor Christian Ude , Jon Gnarr, mayor of
 Reykjavik, Beppe Grillo, are interested  in further suggestion from
FFL-
 Fairy Field Light  [:D] forever




[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas hits $4+ here

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
Don't complain. Consider moving to Nigeria or Venezuela.

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

Now you see why over 50% of all commutes in the Netherlands
are via bicycle. To give them some credit, most of the high price
for gas in Holland goes to taxes, which pay for the infrastructure
and social services.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 I know it's higher elsewhere but this is a refinery town and when I
 filled up the other day it was only $3.89.  Yesterday the same station
 showed $4.09 for unleaded.  Now it is a little hard to discuss gas
 prices because some will brag of lower prices in states that don't
have
 a lot of highways to pay for or pay for them otherwise (toll roads,
 yuk!).  He have higher gas taxes here and we get mad because those
taxes
 were supposed to go only for highway building but the dumb ass
assembly
 used those funds elsewhere.  We even passed a proposition saying those
 taxes could only be use for roads.

 But the important thing to remember is that the oil companies don't
need
 more money.  They are robber barons and robbing YOU!  Time to rise up,
 seize those companies and nationalize them.  The Koch monsters are
rich
 enough!




[FairfieldLife] Members breach Yogi trusts with land deal

2012-02-23 Thread Vaj

When non-invincibility is established in consciousness,
bickering and greed prevails
and radiates into the environment.

Jai Guru Dev.

Members breach Yogi trusts with land deal
MONDAY, 23 JANUARY 2012 00:20 PIONEER NEWS SERVICE | NEW DELHI

Several trusts established by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi are mired in  
controversy following allegation of illegal disposal of their land.  
The members of these trusts have alleged that huge plots of lands in  
Delhi, Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh were “illegally sold off” by  
some trust members without any authorisation from the trusts. These  
trusts became “non-functional” after the death of the founder in  
early 2008.
A complaint filed by some persons, claiming as the real trust members  
and disciples of Maharishi in the Economic Offences Wing of Delhi  
Police, allege a prime property in the Golf Links was  “illegally”  
sold by their rival group in the trust.


Maharishi’s disciples allege that similar kind of “illegal sales and  
land encroachments” have happened in Rajnandgaon, Dongargarh and Durg  
ashrams, with the connivance of some relatives of the late spiritual  
guru. They claim that such incidents started within a year of  
Maharishi’s death in February 2008.


The late guru, who first started a television channel in India for  
yoga and spiritual classes, had established several trusts like  
Spiritual Regeneration Movement Foundation (SRM Foundation),  
Maharishi Siksha Sansthan, Maharishi Veda Vigyan Vidyapeeth,  
Maharishi Gandharv Ved Vidyapeeth, Maharishi Mahila Dhyan Vidyapeeth.  
Most of these trusts have massive  moveable and immovable assets in  
India and abroad.


Soon after the death of Maharishi, bickering started between the  
trust members and followers for the control of the billions of worth  
of assets. In the petitions to different authorities, his disciples  
alleged that “all such illegal  transactions were routed through  
hawala transaction with  the connivance of certain persons from  
Yogi’s  ashrams located abroad.”


“Some people purposefully started activities to paralyse the  
functions of these trusts to take away the properties according to  
their wish. Several illegal and bogus land deeds were created to mint  
money. Some land deeds were just bogus and buyers and sellers were  
created to fool the government. Our request to the government is to  
take over all the orphaned assets of the trusts established by  
Maharishi,” the disciples have said in their  petitions to  
Enforcement Directorate, Income Tax and various State Governments.

[FairfieldLife] Demonic Gaga

2012-02-23 Thread Vaj
Lady Gaga haunted by devilTUESDAY, 21 FEBRUARY 2012 11:36 IANS | LOS ANGELESPop star Lady Gaga believes the devil keeps haunting her during sleep.   The 25-year-old has enlisted the help of Michael Jackson's former doctor and spiritual adviser Deepak Chopra to try to ward off evil spirits from her "terrifying" dreams.  Chopra helped the late Jackson achieve better sleep and breathing patterns with counselling sessions.  "I have this recurring dream where there's a phantom in my home and he takes me into a room where there's a blonde girl with ropes tied to her limbs pulling her apart," showbizspy.com quoted Gaga as saying.  "I told Deepak the dream was so terrifying I thought somehow that a devil force was trying to take hold of me," she added.  Gaga has also asked Chopra to help her achieve her dreams of "going into a coma" and levitating.  "I want to go into a coma and levitate. I am a very spiritual person. Deepak is the most influential person in my life. His message is a true inspiration. He helps me to reach inside my spirituality and we take it to the next level," she said.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas hits $4+ here

2012-02-23 Thread seventhray1

All prices updated March 2005

I think they could have found something a little more current.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Don't complain. Consider moving to Nigeria or Venezuela.

 http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/
 http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

 Now you see why over 50% of all commutes in the Netherlands
 are via bicycle. To give them some credit, most of the high price
 for gas in Holland goes to taxes, which pay for the infrastructure
 and social services.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  I know it's higher elsewhere but this is a refinery town and when I
  filled up the other day it was only $3.89. Yesterday the same
station
  showed $4.09 for unleaded. Now it is a little hard to discuss gas
  prices because some will brag of lower prices in states that don't
 have
  a lot of highways to pay for or pay for them otherwise (toll roads,
  yuk!). He have higher gas taxes here and we get mad because those
 taxes
  were supposed to go only for highway building but the dumb ass
 assembly
  used those funds elsewhere. We even passed a proposition saying
those
  taxes could only be use for roads.
 
  But the important thing to remember is that the oil companies don't
 need
  more money. They are robber barons and robbing YOU! Time to rise up,
  seize those companies and nationalize them. The Koch monsters are
 rich
  enough!
 





[FairfieldLife] Heaven continues to entertain

2012-02-23 Thread Duveyoung
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1E2EwKTBJEfeature=youtu.be

What you see is what you get.

Edg



[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven continues to entertain

2012-02-23 Thread merudanda
another  heavenly TYROL MMY loved already since the mid 60s
A Magic Day in Tyrol (by Georg Riha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ds0p0iDS8

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1E2EwKTBJEfeature=youtu.be

 What you see is what you get.

 Edg




[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas hits $4+ here

2012-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
turquoiseb:
 Now you see why over 50% of all commutes
 in the Netherlands are via bicycle...

That sounds like a lot of fun...


  http://tinyurl.com/883j3jx  http://tinyurl.com/883j3jx 
http://tinyurl.com/883j3jx

Amsterdam City Tours:
http://tinyurl.com/883j3jx http://tinyurl.com/883j3jx




[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven continues to entertain

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 another  heavenly TYROL MMY loved already since the mid 60s
 A Magic Day in Tyrol (by Georg Riha)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ds0p0iDS8

Nice find. One thing you can say for the Swiss and
Austrian Alps...it's one of the few places on Earth
where the landscape looks better than the postcards
of it. 

As for Maharishi liking the terrain, as I watched the
film I could not help but notice how similar some of
the Tyrol terrain was to the Himalayas. I've seen a 
number of films and clips of that area lately, and 
as postcard landscapes go, its would probably be 
better even than those in Tyrol gift shops.

Made me wonder if part of Maharishi still longed for
the terrain of the place he was sent to meditate 
after Guru Dev died. If he thought, from time to
time, What would my life have been like if I'd stayed
there? What would have happened if I had taken the
Red Pill instead of the Blue Pill? 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1E2EwKTBJEfeature=youtu.be
 
  What you see is what you get.
 
  Edg
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas hits $4+ here

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
richard@... wrote:

 turquoiseb:
  Now you see why over 50% of all commutes
  in the Netherlands are via bicycle...
 
 That sounds like a lot of fun...

Actually, it is. Riding a bike in the snow is an adventure.

But I'm uncharacteristically replying to one of your posts, Richard,
because you happened to pick a photograph of a street near where
I used to live in Amsterdam. We (me and a few other Rama students)
rented a nice apartment there and taught meditation from it.

  http://tinyurl.com/883j3jx  




[FairfieldLife] Why Even Educated Conservatives Deny Science -- and Reality

2012-02-23 Thread Rick Archer
The Republican Brain: Why Even Educated Conservatives Deny Science -- and
Reality

New research shows that conservatives who consider themselves well-informed
and educated are also deeper in denial about issues like global warming. 

February 22, 2012 | 

Bottom of Form

This essay is adapted from Chris Mooney’s forthcoming book, The Republican
Brain: The Science of Why They Deny Science
http://www.amazon.com/Republican-Brain-Science-Scienceand-Reality/dp/111809
4514/ —and Reality, due out in April from Wiley.

I can still remember when I first realized how naïve I was in
thinking—hoping—that laying out the “facts” would suffice to change
politicized minds, and especially Republican ones. It was a typically
wonkish, liberal revelation: One based on statistics and data. Only this
time, the data were showing, rather awkwardly, that people ignore data and
evidence—and often, knowledge and education only make the problem worse.

Someone had sent me a 2008 Pew report
http://www.people-press.org/2008/05/08/a-deeper-partisan-divide-over-global
-warming/  documenting the intense partisan divide in the U.S. over the
reality of global warming.. It’s a divide that, maddeningly for scientists,
has shown a paradoxical tendency to widen even as the basic facts about
global warming have become more firmly established.

Those facts are these: Humans, since the industrial revolution, have been
burning more and more fossil fuels to power their societies, and this has
led to a steady accumulation of greenhouse gases, and especially carbon
dioxide, in the atmosphere. At this point, very simple physics takes over,
and you are pretty much doomed, by what scientists refer to as the
“radiative” properties of carbon dioxide molecules (which trap infrared heat
radiation that would otherwise escape to space), to have a warming planet.
Since about 1995, scientists have not only confirmed that this warming is
taking place, but have also grown confident that it has, like the gun in a
murder mystery, our fingerprint on it. Natural fluctuations, although they
exist, can’t explain what we’re seeing. The only reasonable verdict is that
humans did it, in the atmosphere, with their cars and their smokestacks.

Such is what is known to science--what is true (no matter what Rick Santorum
might say). But the Pew data showed that humans aren’t as predictable as
carbon dioxide molecules. Despite a growing scientific consensus about
global warming, as of 2008 Democrats and Republicans had cleaved over the
facts stated above, like a divorcing couple. One side bought into them, one
side didn’t—and if anything, knowledge and intelligence seemed to be
worsening matters.

Buried in the Pew report was a little chart showing the relationship between
one’s political party affiliation, one’s acceptance that humans are causing
global warming, and one’s level of education. And here’s the mind-blowing
surprise: For Republicans, having a college degree didn’t appear to make one
any more open to what scientists have to say. On the contrary,
better-educated Republicans were more skeptical of modern climate science
than their less educated brethren. Only 19 percent of college-educated
Republicans agreed that the planet is warming due to human actions, versus
31 percent of non-college-educated Republicans.

For Democrats and Independents, the opposite was the case. More education
correlated with being more accepting of climate science—among Democrats,
dramatically so. The difference in acceptance between more and less educated
Democrats was 23 percentage points.

This was my first encounter with what I now like to call the “smart idiots”
effect: The fact that politically sophisticated or knowledgeable people are
often more biased, and less persuadable, than the ignorant. It’s a reality
that generates endless frustration for many scientists—and indeed, for many
well-educated, reasonable people.

And most of all, for many liberals.

Let’s face it: We liberals and progressives are absolutely outraged by
partisan misinformation. Lies about “death panels.” People seriously
thinking that President Obama is a Muslim, not born in the United States.
Climate-change denial. Debt ceiling denial. These things drive us crazy, in
large part because we can’t comprehend how such intellectual abominations
could possibly exist.

And not only are we enraged by lies and misinformation; we want to refute
them—to argue, argue, argue about why we’re right and Republicans are wrong.
Indeed, we often act as though right-wing misinformation’s defeat is nigh,
if we could only make people wiser and more educated (just like us) and get
them the medicine that is correct information.

No less than President Obama’s science adviser John Holdren (a man whom I
greatly admire, but disagree with in this instance) has stated, when asked
how to get Republicans in Congress to accept our mainstream scientific
understanding of climate change, that it’s an “education problem

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gas hits $4+ here

2012-02-23 Thread Richard J. Williams


   Now you see why over 50% of all commutes
   in the Netherlands are via bicycle...
  
  That sounds like a lot of fun...
 
turquoiseb:
 Actually, it is. Riding a bike in the snow is 
 an adventure.
 
Me and Rita can't wait to get over there for a 
visit, but it will probably be in the summertime.

 But I'm uncharacteristically replying to one of your 
 posts, Richard, because you happened to pick a photograph 
 of a street near where I used to live in Amsterdam. We 
 (me and a few other Rama students) rented a nice apartment 
 there and taught meditation from it.
 
   http://tinyurl.com/883j3jx  





[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Watching this video from UFO Phil, the former alien
   abductee who says he'll assume the Presidency of the
   US (and the Earth) without a single vote, I found 
   myself wondering if Phil were our own Nabby. Watch
   the video and decide for yourself.
   
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/ufo-phil-for-president_n_1289440.html
  
  I'm disapointed. The text seemed promising. Particularily the 
  idea of building a gigantic pyramid behind the Hollywood sign 
  and replacing the Statue of Liberty with a Monument of Zaxon. 
  The video revealed a phony :-(
 
 How exactly could you tell? Was there some lack of
 credulity in his presentation? Improper aura? Costume
 too garish? Maybe this clip of Benjamin Creme channeling 
 Maitreya on Bill Maher's show is more...uh...promising.
 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi68lzwzYM



Like Maharishi, Benjamin Creme has been from time to time exposed to idiots. 
And like Maharishi, Benjamin Creme shows an astonishing patience with meeting 
yet another moron. 

This Maher fellow is probably a socalled Buddhist, which makes his performance 
seem even worse.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
Watching this video from UFO Phil, the former alien
abductee who says he'll assume the Presidency of the
US (and the Earth) without a single vote, I found 
myself wondering if Phil were our own Nabby. Watch
the video and decide for yourself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/ufo-phil-for-president_n_1289440.html
   
   I'm disapointed. The text seemed promising. Particularily the 
   idea of building a gigantic pyramid behind the Hollywood sign 
   and replacing the Statue of Liberty with a Monument of Zaxon. 
   The video revealed a phony :-(
  
  How exactly could you tell? Was there some lack of
  credulity in his presentation? Improper aura? Costume
  too garish? Maybe this clip of Benjamin Creme channeling 
  Maitreya on Bill Maher's show is more...uh...promising.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi68lzwzYM
 
 Like Maharishi, Benjamin Creme has been from time to time 
 exposed to idiots. And like Maharishi, Benjamin Creme shows 
 an astonishing patience with meeting yet another moron. 
 
 This Maher fellow is probably a socalled Buddhist, which 
 makes his performance seem even worse.

Actually, it's even worse than that, Nabs. Bill Maher 
is an atheist. 

If you're unclear on the difference, neither atheists
nor Buddhists believe in a God, but atheists eat babies
and small children whereas we Buddhists merely spirit
them away to monasteries, shave their heads, and teach
them to persecute TMers. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2012-02-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 snip
Middle School last week after presenting the school with
an assembly concerning bullying and creating a culture of
respect in a school.  She told me that because of the
focus on bullying today, students are misusing the term,
as you have here,
   
   I don't know whether students are misusing the term, but
   I wasn't. Check Mr. Dictionary, please.
   
   I suspect the principal has adopted the power differential
   sense of the term because it serves her purposes in educating
   the children.
  
  No, it is a part of all the definitions I read, Websters'
  for example.  Do you think we can't look things up too?
 
 I can't decide whether this is a tactic--pretending that I
 didn't just get done saying Check Mr. Dictionary, please
 five lines above and hoping nobody else will notice--or
 whether you're losing the ability to keep track of what
 you read.

I checked many definitions of the term when I designed my course including over 
a dozen books on the subject.  I am familiar with the term in detail and you 
are misusing it as a way to make Sal look bad. It also neuters an important 
term following your absurd assertion that a power differential is not key.

 
 Webster's, by the way, has long since become a generic
 term; any publisher can use it for their dictionary. It
 no longer carries any special authority.
 
 The Merriam Webster Collegiate* Dictionary, 11th edition,
 has this definition:
 
 a blustering browbeating person; especially: one
 habitually cruel to others who are weaker.
 
 Especially does not mean limited to.

The definition of browbeating includes intimidation because it also rests on 
an inequality of power to be meaningful. Especially means in particular, to 
help distinguish this word's meanings from others.  In other words they are 
defining the term in terms of its reliance on the other person being weaker.

But all this is bluff and bluster parsing on your part.  You know that you were 
using the term to make Sal look worse than if she was just being sarcastic, you 
were implying that she was doing something that we all sense is unfair, 
bullying.  Or would you be comfortable with a claim that Robin's long 
criticisms of me were an act of bullying on his part?  Do you bully Barry in 
your long castigation exercises here?

The meaningfulness of the term relies on the unequal nature of the relationship 
and therefore Sal never bullied anyone here, you never bullied anyone here, 
because we are all equal and cannot bully each other here.


 
 The verb to bully is defined thus:
 
 1: to treat abusively; 2: to affect by means of force
 or coercion; intransitive verb: to use browbeating
 language or behavior: BLUSTER
 
 -
 * To save you time and embarrassment, I'll point out
 that Collegiate in the title does not mean dumbed
 down. The M-W Collegiate is the one used by most book
 publishers and is considered among the most authoritative.

I am familiar.


 -
 
 Of course the power differential notion is *part of*
 most definitions, but it's usually in the especially
 sense, i.e., the term bully does not *require* that
 a power differential exist.


Just if you want the term to be meaningfully distinguished from other concepts. 
If you are arguing that blibbity blab is the same as blibbity blimp then you 
have left a rational discussion.  The word has a meaning and you purposefully 
misapplied it to make her look worse.  Now your dancing is getting comical and  
I appreciate that.

 
  But more importantly, there is a whole body of knowledge about
  bullying behavior that I am referencing.  There is no use of
  the term in a social situations that doesn't include this
  important piece.  You  know this, which is why you chose the
  term as adding more inappropriate drama to your charge.
 
 Well, actually, I know to the contrary. And inappropriate
 drama is not the best way to make one's case, so it's not
 an approach I'd be likely to take.


Nice dodge of the whole body of knowledge about bullying that goes beyond the 
words of the definition to make sure people don't misunderstand its meaning and 
misuse it as you have.

And yes, the drama of the word was inappropriate because it is inaccurate and 
misleading. Sal never bullied anyone here.

 
 snip
What you are mischaracterizing as bullying is your judgement
that Sal was being unfriendly to others maybe.
   
   No, I meant bullying in the more general sense of the term.
  
  All the definitions I have read contain the power differential
  as a part of what defines it as bullying.  You have to go to 
  uncommon usage to find examples of it being used any other way.
 
 Quite possibly in the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
Just as commentary, compare this post:

 Sal, IMHO, is a bully, an exceptionally nasty one, and a
 dishonest one at that (as you yourself have reason to know,
 Steve). If she couldn't deal with getting a taste of her
 own medicine from me, maybe she'll have learned something
 from that. Hopefully her hypothetical therapist will help
 her recognize it's not OK for her to gratuitously take out
 her own private hurts, whatever they may be, on other
 people.

to a post made by the same FFL member, less than a 
month ago in post #302968:

 I wouldn't be in favor of legislating it, but IMHO FFL
 would be a better, more enjoyable place, and its
 discussions more interesting and productive, if we all
 would refrain from personal attacks against each other,
 if we could express our disagreements without being
 disagreeable, in Obama's phrase.
 Wouldn't hurt if we all made an effort to be as truthful
 as we possibly can, either.

Which poster was right, and which wrong? The debate
should prove interesting, because after all:

 Yes, I usually double down when I'm right and someone
 maliciously tries to pretend otherwise.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  snip
 Middle School last week after presenting the school with
 an assembly concerning bullying and creating a culture of
 respect in a school.  She told me that because of the
 focus on bullying today, students are misusing the term,
 as you have here,

I don't know whether students are misusing the term, but
I wasn't. Check Mr. Dictionary, please.

I suspect the principal has adopted the power differential
sense of the term because it serves her purposes in educating
the children.
   
   No, it is a part of all the definitions I read, Websters'
   for example.  Do you think we can't look things up too?
  
  I can't decide whether this is a tactic--pretending that I
  didn't just get done saying Check Mr. Dictionary, please
  five lines above and hoping nobody else will notice--or
  whether you're losing the ability to keep track of what
  you read.
 
 I checked many definitions of the term when I designed my course including 
 over a dozen books on the subject.  I am familiar with the term in detail and 
 you are misusing it as a way to make Sal look bad. It also neuters an 
 important term following your absurd assertion that a power differential is 
 not key.
 
  
  Webster's, by the way, has long since become a generic
  term; any publisher can use it for their dictionary. It
  no longer carries any special authority.
  
  The Merriam Webster Collegiate* Dictionary, 11th edition,
  has this definition:
  
  a blustering browbeating person; especially: one
  habitually cruel to others who are weaker.
  
  Especially does not mean limited to.
 
 The definition of browbeating includes intimidation because it also rests 
 on an inequality of power to be meaningful. Especially means in particular, 
 to help distinguish this word's meanings from others.  In other words they 
 are defining the term in terms of its reliance on the other person being 
 weaker.
 
 But all this is bluff and bluster parsing on your part.  You know that you 
 were using the term to make Sal look worse than if she was just being 
 sarcastic, you were implying that she was doing something that we all sense 
 is unfair, bullying.  Or would you be comfortable with a claim that Robin's 
 long criticisms of me were an act of bullying on his part?  Do you bully 
 Barry in your long castigation exercises here?
 
 The meaningfulness of the term relies on the unequal nature of the 
 relationship and therefore Sal never bullied anyone here, you never bullied 
 anyone here, because we are all equal and cannot bully each other here.
 
 
  
  The verb to bully is defined thus:
  
  1: to treat abusively; 2: to affect by means of force
  or coercion; intransitive verb: to use browbeating
  language or behavior: BLUSTER
  
  -
  * To save you time and embarrassment, I'll point out
  that Collegiate in the title does not mean dumbed
  down. The M-W Collegiate is the one used by most book
  publishers and is considered among the most authoritative.
 
 I am familiar.
 
 
  -
  
  Of course the power differential notion is *part of*
  most definitions, but it's usually in the especially
  sense, i.e., the term bully does not *require* that
  a power differential exist.
 
 
 Just if you want the term to be meaningfully distinguished from other 
 concepts. If you are arguing that blibbity blab is the same as blibbity blimp 
 then you have left a rational discussion.  The word has a meaning and 

[FairfieldLife] Barriers to Enlightenment

2012-02-23 Thread John
In the Old Testament, the story of Adam and Eve tells us of the devolution of 
the first human beings from unity consciousness to the bondage of the gunas.  
The main key to their fall was their pride of being equal to the Source of the 
unified field.  Thus, they disobeyed the rule by eating the forbidden fruit.

Along with pride came the desire to indulge in the senses.  Since they thought 
they were gods, then they can get anything they wanted in the phenomenal world. 
 By doing so, they knowingly put their spirit in bondage to matter.   



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gas hits $4+ here

2012-02-23 Thread Bhairitu
Actually the US is actually exporting oil so why would I want to move to 
Nigeria or Venezuela though the latter might suit my tastes in climates 
and politics. ;-)

Oil being such an important resource should have never been left to 
capitalist sociopaths to game and control.  As you well know they kept 
the US from building good mass transit just so they could line their own 
pockets.  They've run their businesses like drug dealers.

On 02/23/2012 04:16 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 Don't complain. Consider moving to Nigeria or Venezuela.

 http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/
 http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

 Now you see why over 50% of all commutes in the Netherlands
 are via bicycle. To give them some credit, most of the high price
 for gas in Holland goes to taxes, which pay for the infrastructure
 and social services.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 I know it's higher elsewhere but this is a refinery town and when I
 filled up the other day it was only $3.89.  Yesterday the same station
 showed $4.09 for unleaded.  Now it is a little hard to discuss gas
 prices because some will brag of lower prices in states that don't
 have
 a lot of highways to pay for or pay for them otherwise (toll roads,
 yuk!).  He have higher gas taxes here and we get mad because those
 taxes
 were supposed to go only for highway building but the dumb ass
 assembly
 used those funds elsewhere.  We even passed a proposition saying those
 taxes could only be use for roads.

 But the important thing to remember is that the oil companies don't
 need
 more money.  They are robber barons and robbing YOU!  Time to rise up,
 seize those companies and nationalize them.  The Koch monsters are
 rich
 enough!





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven continues to entertain

2012-02-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/23/2012 07:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudandano_reply@...  wrote:
 another  heavenly TYROL MMY loved already since the mid 60s
 A Magic Day in Tyrol (by Georg Riha)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ds0p0iDS8
 Nice find. One thing you can say for the Swiss and
 Austrian Alps...it's one of the few places on Earth
 where the landscape looks better than the postcards
 of it.

 As for Maharishi liking the terrain, as I watched the
 film I could not help but notice how similar some of
 the Tyrol terrain was to the Himalayas. I've seen a
 number of films and clips of that area lately, and
 as postcard landscapes go, its would probably be
 better even than those in Tyrol gift shops.

 Made me wonder if part of Maharishi still longed for
 the terrain of the place he was sent to meditate
 after Guru Dev died. If he thought, from time to
 time, What would my life have been like if I'd stayed
 there? What would have happened if I had taken the
 Red Pill instead of the Blue Pill?

One thing I noticed with a lot of Bollywood films is they don't shoot 
mountain scenes in the Himalayas but travel to Switzerland and shoot 
there.  Never understood why.  Maybe they just couldn't find the chalets 
they wanted in the Himalayas.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoungno_reply@  wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1E2EwKTBJEfeature=youtu.be

 What you see is what you get.

 Edg






[FairfieldLife] Your Uplifting Thought Of The Day

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
Courtesy of There's One Reborn Every Minute, Inc.
Today's Uplifting Thought Of The Day Is:

I could have been born in Germany, or in Zimbabwe.

http://digg.com/newsbar/Worldnews/giant_chunks_of_frozen_shit_and_urine_falling_from_planes_in_germany

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/crocodile-bites-off-testicles_n_1290647.html

:-)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/22/2012 07:18 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@...  wrote:
 The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.
 Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be the 
 significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the floor. They 
 are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room they look like they 
 are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they are far, far apart.

 Suppose you were transported to another galaxy, to another planet in a double 
 star system with four planets around one of the stars, and you are on the 
 outer one. You woke up there at dusk and looked at the sky. All the stars and 
 planets are completely different than on Earth. How would you create a system 
 of astrolgy from this? Would it even be worth the trouble?

It is possible the ancients were using the planets as time keepers for 
macro cycles in nature and society.  Some of these cycles come close to 
the timing of planetary returns.  The Sun and Moon however obviously do 
exact influence on our environment and even human behavior.  On another 
planet one would have to chronicle such effects and develop a new system 
but if you already understand macro cycle effects it might not be 
necessary.  But then on another planet the macro cycles might even be 
different.  They might be just a harmonic of the effects of the planet's 
Sun and any moons.

If you run two planetary calculation engines (this is astronomy not 
astrology), one where perturbations are calculated and the other without 
you'll find that dates where conjunctions occur to be the most off in 
position for the set that perturbation terms are not applied.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
 On 02/22/2012 03:01 AM, merlin wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8br4JiFEik
 One of the things I neglected to mention about Another Earth was the
 poetic license they took about the idea of a planet as large as earth
 that close to us.  A planet of that mass would have played all kinds of
 havoc with our environment and they would be too busy dealing with that
 than to try to communicate (same for the inhabitants of the other
 planet).  I'm wondering how much this alignment might mess with the
 perturbations of Earth and the Moon orbits though it has probably been
 factored into any planetary calculations.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.
 
 Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be the 
 significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the floor. They 
 are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room they look like they 
 are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they are far, far apart.


This is a good question.  I believe the planets would have different 
perspectives and effects when on Mars.  From Mars, you would not see the Moon 
of Earth on the horizon.  Instead, you would see and be affected by the Moons 
of Mars, Phobos and Deimos.  In addition, you would see and be affected by the 
presence of the planet Earth.


 
 Suppose you were transported to another galaxy, to another planet in a double 
 star system with four planets around one of the stars, and you are on the 
 outer one. You woke up there at dusk and looked at the sky. All the stars and 
 planets are completely different than on Earth. How would you create a system 
 of astrolgy from this? Would it even be worth the trouble?

In speculating, I would think that life would be drastically different when 
you're located in another galaxy, star system and planet.  If the system can 
sustain human life, then the environment must be similar to that of earth.  
That means the planet must have similar ingredients as the earth and it must be 
located in a habitable zone from the host star.  Otherwise, humans cannot live 
there.












 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 02/22/2012 03:01 AM, merlin wrote:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8br4JiFEik
 
  One of the things I neglected to mention about Another Earth was the 
  poetic license they took about the idea of a planet as large as earth 
  that close to us.  A planet of that mass would have played all kinds of 
  havoc with our environment and they would be too busy dealing with that 
  than to try to communicate (same for the inhabitants of the other 
  planet).  I'm wondering how much this alignment might mess with the 
  perturbations of Earth and the Moon orbits though it has probably been 
  factored into any planetary calculations.
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Barriers to Enlightenment

2012-02-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 In the Old Testament, the story of Adam and Eve tells us 
 of the devolution of the first human beings from unity 
 consciousness to the bondage of the gunas.  The main key 
 to their fall was their pride of being equal to the Source 
 of the unified field.  Thus, they disobeyed the rule by 
 eating the forbidden fruit.
 
 Along with pride came the desire to indulge in the senses.  
 Since they thought they were gods, then they can get anything 
 they wanted in the phenomenal world.  By doing so, they 
 knowingly put their spirit in bondage to matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE





[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:

 Watching this video from UFO Phil, the former alien
 abductee who says he'll assume the Presidency of the
 US (and the Earth) without a single vote, I found 
 myself wondering if Phil were our own Nabby. Watch
 the video and decide for yourself.
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/ufo-phil-for-president_n_1289440.html

I'm disapointed. The text seemed promising. Particularily the 
idea of building a gigantic pyramid behind the Hollywood sign 
and replacing the Statue of Liberty with a Monument of Zaxon. 
The video revealed a phony :-(
   
   How exactly could you tell? Was there some lack of
   credulity in his presentation? Improper aura? Costume
   too garish? Maybe this clip of Benjamin Creme channeling 
   Maitreya on Bill Maher's show is more...uh...promising.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi68lzwzYM
  
  Like Maharishi, Benjamin Creme has been from time to time 
  exposed to idiots. And like Maharishi, Benjamin Creme shows 
  an astonishing patience with meeting yet another moron. 
  
  This Maher fellow is probably a socalled Buddhist, which 
  makes his performance seem even worse.
 
 Actually, it's even worse than that, Nabs. Bill Maher 
 is an atheist. 
 
 If you're unclear on the difference, neither atheists
 nor Buddhists believe in a God, but atheists eat babies
 and small children whereas we Buddhists merely spirit
 them away to monasteries, shave their heads, and teach
 them to persecute TMers.

Wow, I missed this memo.  Any hints on preparation?  Due to the fat content I 
think wrapping them in  bacon would be overkill, but a nice poaching at a low 
temp might be nice covered with thinly sliced lemons and perhaps studded with 
cloves.  Or with the right marinade they might be good in a smoker like pulled 
pork.  I suspect low and slow would be the way to go whatever technique was 
used, due to the assumed delicacy of the flesh.  

One last thing, at what age do they toughen up?  There is such a temptation to 
get a bargain for an older child when having a big atheist blowout, but you 
would hate your guests to complain afterwards that you had gone cheapo on the 
event with off brand generic cheese doodles and a child past its culinary prime.














[FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.

 Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be
the significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the
floor. They are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room
they look like they are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they
are far, far apart.


 This is a good question.  I believe the planets would have different
perspectives and effects when on Mars.  From Mars, you would not see the
Moon of Earth on the horizon.  Instead, you would see and be affected by
the Moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos.  In addition, you would see and be
affected by the presence of the planet Earth.

Current position (23 February 2012) of the planets, from a different
point of view. Constellation names included.




The fuzzy spot to the right of the sun is the Large Magellanic Cloud,
and the bright spot below the cloud is the Tarantula Nebula. Suppose
someone is born at this time at this viewing location. What is their
future?

 Suppose you were transported to another galaxy, to another planet in
a double star system with four planets around one of the stars, and you
are on the outer one. You woke up there at dusk and looked at the sky.
All the stars and planets are completely different than on Earth. How
would you create a system of astrolgy from this? Would it even be worth
the trouble?


 In speculating, I would think that life would be drastically different
when you're located in another galaxy, star system and planet.  If the
system can sustain human life, then the environment must be similar to
that of earth.  That means the planet must have similar ingredients as
the earth and it must be located in a habitable zone from the host star.
Otherwise, humans cannot live there.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 On 02/22/2012 03:01 AM, merlin wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8br4JiFEik

 One of the things I neglected to mention about Another Earth was
the
 poetic license they took about the idea of a planet as large as
earth
 that close to us.  A planet of that mass would have played all
kinds of
 havoc with our environment and they would be too busy dealing with
that
 than to try to communicate (same for the inhabitants of the other
 planet).  I'm wondering how much this alignment might mess with the
 perturbations of Earth and the Moon orbits though it has probably
been
 factored into any planetary calculations.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2012-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  snip
 Middle School last week after presenting the school with
 an assembly concerning bullying and creating a culture of
 respect in a school.  She told me that because of the
 focus on bullying today, students are misusing the term,
 as you have here,

I don't know whether students are misusing the term, but
I wasn't. Check Mr. Dictionary, please.

I suspect the principal has adopted the power differential
sense of the term because it serves her purposes in educating
the children.
   
   No, it is a part of all the definitions I read, Websters'
   for example.  Do you think we can't look things up too?
  
  I can't decide whether this is a tactic--pretending that I
  didn't just get done saying Check Mr. Dictionary, please
  five lines above and hoping nobody else will notice--or
  whether you're losing the ability to keep track of what
  you read.

(Curtis avoids copping to his goof, as usual.)
 
 I checked many definitions of the term when I designed my course
 including over a dozen books on the subject.  I am familiar with 
 the term in detail and you are misusing it as a way to make Sal 
 look bad. It also neuters an important term following your absurd 
 assertion that a power differential is not key.

This is just bluster, Curtis. In fact, you're attempting
to bully *me*.

snip
  The Merriam Webster Collegiate* Dictionary, 11th edition,
  has this definition:
  
  a blustering browbeating person; especially: one
  habitually cruel to others who are weaker.
  
  Especially does not mean limited to.
 
 The definition of browbeating includes intimidation because
 it also rests on an inequality of power to be 
 meaningful.

Are you really trying to claim one person can't intimidate
another person unless there's an inequality of power to
start with? That's just bizarre. Intimidation can *create*
an inequality of power between two people who were peers
to start with. And so, of course, can bullying.

 Especially means in particular, to help distinguish this
 word's meanings from others.  In other words they are
 defining the term in terms of its reliance on the other
 person being weaker.

Nope, you're wrong, sorry. Especially defines a special
sense distinguished from the more general sense of the
definition that precedes it. Especially does not *limit*
how the word may be used to that special sense. At least
not per Merriam-Webster. It's called a sense divider.

 But all this is bluff and bluster parsing on your part.  You
 know that you were using the term to make Sal look worse than
 if she was just being sarcastic, you were implying that she
 was doing something that we all sense is unfair, bullying.

That would make no sense at all, Curtis, since we all know
there are no power differentials on FFL.

 Or would you be comfortable with a claim that Robin's long 
 criticisms of me were an act of bullying on his part?

Sure. Not anywhere near as nasty as Sal's bullying, though.
Or as malicious as your bullying of him with regard to the
open letter. Or your collusion with Barry to bully him
about not giving you a Reader's Digest version of his
five-parter.

 Do you bully Barry in your long castigation exercises here?

Sure. Just as he bullies me in his long castigation exercises
here.

 The meaningfulness of the term relies on the unequal nature
 of the relationship and therefore Sal never bullied anyone
 here, you never bullied anyone here, because we are all equal
 and cannot bully each other here.

Curtis Has Spoken. Thus Must It Be, because Curtis will not
permit any context but his own, no matter how valid another
context is.

  The verb to bully is defined thus:
  
  1: to treat abusively; 2: to affect by means of force
  or coercion; intransitive verb: to use browbeating
  language or behavior: BLUSTER

So I guess if I said Sal bullies people, Curtis would
have trouble finding a way to object. That's why Curtis
carefully ignored the definition of the verb, which does
not include anything about a power differential.

snip
  Of course the power differential notion is *part of*
  most definitions, but it's usually in the especially
  sense, i.e., the term bully does not *require* that
  a power differential exist.
 
 Just if you want the term to be meaningfully distinguished
 from other concepts. If you are arguing that blibbity blab
 is the same as blibbity blimp then you have left a rational 
 discussion.

Empty and lame, Curtis. No such distinction is necessary,
*unless you want to convey a power differential* as distinct
from bullying that does *not* involve a power differential.
Which is fine and useful, but it doesn't erase the more
general meaning of the term.

 The word has a meaning and you purposefully 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2012-02-23 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Just as commentary, compare this post:
 
  Sal, IMHO, is a bully, an exceptionally nasty one, and a
  dishonest one at that (as you yourself have reason to know,
  Steve). If she couldn't deal with getting a taste of her
  own medicine from me, maybe she'll have learned something
  from that. Hopefully her hypothetical therapist will help
  her recognize it's not OK for her to gratuitously take out
  her own private hurts, whatever they may be, on other
  people.
 
 to a post made by the same FFL member, less than a 
 month ago in post #302968:
 
  I wouldn't be in favor of legislating it, but IMHO FFL
  would be a better, more enjoyable place, and its
  discussions more interesting and productive, if we all
  would refrain from personal attacks against each other,
  if we could express our disagreements without being
  disagreeable, in Obama's phrase.
  Wouldn't hurt if we all made an effort to be as truthful
  as we possibly can, either.
 
 Which poster was right, and which wrong?

Wait, you said it was the same poster. Opsie!

 The debate
 should prove interesting, because after all:

No debate involved between those two posts, sorry. Maybe
you should read them both again, along with the context.
If there are any words you don't understand, let me know.



 
  Yes, I usually double down when I'm right and someone
  maliciously tries to pretend otherwise.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.
  
  Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be the 
  significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the floor. They 
  are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room they look like 
  they are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they are far, far 
  apart.
 
 This is a good question.  I believe the planets would have different 
 perspectives and effects when on Mars.  From Mars, you would not see the Moon 
 of Earth on the horizon.  Instead, you would see and be affected by the Moons 
 of Mars, Phobos and Deimos.  In addition, you would see and be affected by 
 the presence of the planet Earth.
  
  Suppose you were transported to another galaxy, to another planet in a 
  double star system with four planets around one of the stars, and you are 
  on the outer one. You woke up there at dusk and looked at the sky. All the 
  stars and planets are completely different than on Earth. How would you 
  create a system of astrolgy from this? Would it even be worth the trouble?
 
 In speculating, I would think that life would be drastically different when 
 you're located in another galaxy, star system and planet.  If the system can 
 sustain human life, then the environment must be similar to that of earth.  
 That means the planet must have similar ingredients as the earth and it must 
 be located in a habitable zone from the host star.  Otherwise, humans cannot 
 live there.

I'd venture a guess that any civilization of sentient
beings, assuming their planet had a night and that they
were able to see the night sky clearly, would in its
early stages develop a system of astrology.






[FairfieldLife] Who leads on mobile Internet traffic??

2012-02-23 Thread cardemaister

http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/02/21/nokia-leads-on-mobile-internet-traffic/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  anartaxius@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.
   
   Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be the 
   significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the floor. 
   They are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room they look 
   like they are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they are far, 
   far apart.
  
  This is a good question.  I believe the planets would have different 
  perspectives and effects when on Mars.  From Mars, you would not see the 
  Moon of Earth on the horizon.  Instead, you would see and be affected by 
  the Moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos.  In addition, you would see and be 
  affected by the presence of the planet Earth.
   
   Suppose you were transported to another galaxy, to another planet in a 
   double star system with four planets around one of the stars, and you are 
   on the outer one. You woke up there at dusk and looked at the sky. All 
   the stars and planets are completely different than on Earth. How would 
   you create a system of astrolgy from this? Would it even be worth the 
   trouble?
  
  In speculating, I would think that life would be drastically different when 
  you're located in another galaxy, star system and planet.  If the system 
  can sustain human life, then the environment must be similar to that of 
  earth.  That means the planet must have similar ingredients as the earth 
  and it must be located in a habitable zone from the host star.  Otherwise, 
  humans cannot live there.
 
 I'd venture a guess that any civilization of sentient
 beings, assuming their planet had a night and that they
 were able to see the night sky clearly, would in its
 early stages develop a system of astrology.


This idea would be about right.  If they had different planets nearby, those 
would be affecting their brains and physiology in different ways.  As such, 
they would have different significators for their emotional and physical traits.






RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of turquoiseb
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:34 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
  How exactly could you tell? Was there some lack of
  credulity in his presentation? Improper aura? Costume
  too garish? Maybe this clip of Benjamin Creme channeling 
  Maitreya on Bill Maher's show is more...uh...promising.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi68lzwzYM

Got a lot of LOL moments out of that video.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
 anartaxius@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.
 
  Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be
 the significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the
 floor. They are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room
 they look like they are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they
 are far, far apart.
 
 
  This is a good question.  I believe the planets would have different
 perspectives and effects when on Mars.  From Mars, you would not see the
 Moon of Earth on the horizon.  Instead, you would see and be affected by
 the Moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos.  In addition, you would see and be
 affected by the presence of the planet Earth.
 
 Current position (23 February 2012) of the planets, from a different
 point of view. Constellation names included.
 
 
 
 
 The fuzzy spot to the right of the sun is the Large Magellanic Cloud,
 and the bright spot below the cloud is the Tarantula Nebula. Suppose
 someone is born at this time at this viewing location. What is their
 future?



With an alignment of planets like that, the location of the viewer must be 
outside the planet Earth.  As such, the environment must be unlike Earth and no 
humans could possibly live there.  I would venture to guess that this viewpoint 
could only be taken by a space probe.








 
  Suppose you were transported to another galaxy, to another planet in
 a double star system with four planets around one of the stars, and you
 are on the outer one. You woke up there at dusk and looked at the sky.
 All the stars and planets are completely different than on Earth. How
 would you create a system of astrolgy from this? Would it even be worth
 the trouble?
 
 
  In speculating, I would think that life would be drastically different
 when you're located in another galaxy, star system and planet.  If the
 system can sustain human life, then the environment must be similar to
 that of earth.  That means the planet must have similar ingredients as
 the earth and it must be located in a habitable zone from the host star.
 Otherwise, humans cannot live there.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  On 02/22/2012 03:01 AM, merlin wrote:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8br4JiFEik
 
  One of the things I neglected to mention about Another Earth was
 the
  poetic license they took about the idea of a planet as large as
 earth
  that close to us.  A planet of that mass would have played all
 kinds of
  havoc with our environment and they would be too busy dealing with
 that
  than to try to communicate (same for the inhabitants of the other
  planet).  I'm wondering how much this alignment might mess with the
  perturbations of Earth and the Moon orbits though it has probably
 been
  factored into any planetary calculations.





[FairfieldLife] Supper at Emmaus

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
by Jocobo Pontorno, (1494-1557); 1525:

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/16748.jpg



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/23/2012 01:19 PM, John wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros 
 Anartaxiusanartaxius@...  wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
 anartaxius@ wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
 The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.
 Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be
 the significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the
 floor. They are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room
 they look like they are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they
 are far, far apart.


 This is a good question.  I believe the planets would have different
 perspectives and effects when on Mars.  From Mars, you would not see the
 Moon of Earth on the horizon.  Instead, you would see and be affected by
 the Moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos.  In addition, you would see and be
 affected by the presence of the planet Earth.

 Current position (23 February 2012) of the planets, from a different
 point of view. Constellation names included.




 The fuzzy spot to the right of the sun is the Large Magellanic Cloud,
 and the bright spot below the cloud is the Tarantula Nebula. Suppose
 someone is born at this time at this viewing location. What is their
 future?


 With an alignment of planets like that, the location of the viewer must be 
 outside the planet Earth.  As such, the environment must be unlike Earth and 
 no humans could possibly live there.  I would venture to guess that this 
 viewpoint could only be taken by a space probe.


Well, maybe no humans but why does sentient life have to be human or 
even be composed of matter visible in our narrow visual range?   I go 
with the universe behaving more like fractals and as such our species 
would be replicated throughout the universe along with other intelligent 
species too.  We can't be so vain to think we're that unique or even 
that bright.  We seem to be just highly domesticated apes and who did 
the domestication is a real mystery.  Or maybe an ape ate some matter 
from an asteroid that contained DNA of an intelligent species and the 
modification came from that.  I also look up on a living beings 
including humans to be biological machines just following learned patterns.



[FairfieldLife] Guanyin Mountain

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
Dungguan, China

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Dongguan_Guanyinshan.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Chenrezig

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
http://blog.dwbuk.org/diamond-way-teachings/chenrezig-the-embodiment-of-the-sangha/



[FairfieldLife] Almost New Freezer and Washer/Dryer For Sale

2012-02-23 Thread Dick Mays


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 Subject: Almost New Freezer and Washer/Dryer For Sale
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of turquoiseb
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:34 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?
 
  
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:

   How exactly could you tell? Was there some lack of
   credulity in his presentation? Improper aura? Costume
   too garish? Maybe this clip of Benjamin Creme channeling 
   Maitreya on Bill Maher's show is more...uh...promising.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi68lzwzYM
 
 Got a lot of LOL moments out of that video.


Shows how serious you are :-)



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

2012-02-23 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:34 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?

 

  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
 On Behalf Of turquoiseb
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:34 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Nabby finally been outed?
 
   How exactly could you tell? Was there some lack of
   credulity in his presentation? Improper aura? Costume
   too garish? Maybe this clip of Benjamin Creme channeling 
   Maitreya on Bill Maher's show is more...uh...promising.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gi68lzwzYM
 
 Got a lot of LOL moments out of that video.

Shows how serious you are :-)

Not serious in the least. And I like Bill Maher a lot, although I'm no
atheist.



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2012-02-23 Thread FFL PostCount
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Barriers to Enlightenment

2012-02-23 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 In the Old Testament, the story of Adam and Eve tells us of the devolution of 
 the first human beings from unity consciousness to the bondage of the gunas.  
 The main key to their fall was their pride of being equal to the Source of 
 the unified field.  Thus, they disobeyed the rule by eating the forbidden 
 fruit.

Actually, involution would perhaps describe it better, they certainly weren't 
in Unity Consciousness. Infant humanity was the product of eons of evolution 
through all the kingdoms of nature, mineral, plant and animal. The 
consciousness that evolved/involved through the kingdoms finally arrived at the 
state where a special creation was made (man) by God, with all the potentials 
possible as reflected in man as having all 7 chakras.

The Divine Plan is to evolve man to the point where his material/astral/causal 
physiology can unfold a pure reflection of Being or Consciousness, (which is 
Cosmic Consciousness or what MMY calls Unity Consciousness), then man can be 
said to be truly made In the Image of God.

The lose-knit allegory of the 'fall' is merely a story encapsulating the 
ingredients of this transformation of nescient (ignorant) man. 

Pride came later; once they were given *free will* they were also told by the 
Almighty, if you yield to the sex sensations you will 'fall' from the Garden 
of Eden (Paradise lost), but as Satan (the Luciferian spirits, the light 
givers who 'opened' their eyes) proclaimed, but ye shall be as Gods. Both 
'Satan' and 'God' were right and merely stating the facts of the matter! (It's 
just a story!!)

So Adam and Eve (early man) persevered and became the 'pioneers' who ventured 
forth from their passive nescience (ignorant) state of being to fulfill their 
inner urge to unfold their full potential. It was all part of a plan, 'Satan' 
was merely playing a role.
 
  Along with pride came the desire to indulge in the senses.  Since they 
  thought they were gods, then they can get anything they wanted in the 
  phenomenal world.  By doing so, they knowingly put their spirit in bondage 
  to matter.

I don't think they had much mind function in those early periods, I think the 
'chit' (sensation and feeling) was the first to evolve and mind came later, 
FWIW.

Sources: The Cosmo Conception (Max Heindel) and The Second Coming of Christ 
(Paramahansa Yogananda).








[FairfieldLife] Bullying

2012-02-23 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 snip

 I checked many definitions of the term when I designed my course
 including over a dozen books on the subject.  I am familiar with 
 the term in detail and you are misusing it as a way to make Sal 
 look bad. It also neuters an important term following your absurd 
 assertion that a power differential is not key.
 
 This is just bluster, Curtis. In fact, you're attempting
 to bully *me*.

I think Curtis is just elucidating points

 snip
 The Merriam Webster Collegiate* Dictionary, 11th edition,
 has this definition:
 
 a blustering browbeating person; especially: one
 habitually cruel to others who are weaker.
 
 Especially does not mean limited to.
 
 The definition of browbeating includes intimidation because
 it also rests on an inequality of power to be 
 meaningful.
 
 Are you really trying to claim one person can't intimidate
 another person unless there's an inequality of power to
 start with? That's just bizarre. Intimidation can *create*
 an inequality of power between two people who were peers
 to start with. And so, of course, can bullying.
 
 Especially means in particular, to help distinguish this
 word's meanings from others.  In other words they are
 defining the term in terms of its reliance on the other
 person being weaker.
 
 Nope, you're wrong, sorry. Especially defines a special
 sense distinguished from the more general sense of the
 definition that precedes it. Especially does not *limit*
 how the word may be used to that special sense. At least
 not per Merriam-Webster. It's called a sense divider.


  es·pe·cial·ly

  adverb

  Used to single out one person, thing, or situation over all others
  - he despised them all, especially Sylvester
  - a new song, written especially for Jonathan

  To a great extent; very much
  - he didn't especially like dancing
  - sleep is especially important for growing children


I think Judy got you there Curtis.



I got this definition of 'bullying' from a New Zealand website:

Bullying is when someone keeps doing or saying things to have power over 
another person. Some of the ways they bully other people are by: calling them 
names, saying or writing nasty things about them, leaving them out of 
activities, not talking to them, threatening them, making them feel 
uncomfortable or scared, taking or damaging their things, hitting or kicking 
them, or making them do things they don't want to do.

Maybe there is a difference in the way girls and women intimidate, and the way 
boys and men intimidate. Whether there is a perceived power differential or 
not, the bully thinks they have the power, that the power differential exists 
and the advantage is on their side. In a person to person situation, this may 
already be established early in childhood. Certain people are known to be 
weaker than others, less agressive than others, and some take advantage of that 
knowledge. A bully is only surprised if their perception of power is in error. 
For example, in male oriented action movies, the protagonist is theatened by 
the antagonist or his henchmen. The protagonist and/or the henchment make their 
move and get creamed, they get their butts kicked by the protagonist. But in a 
school yard etc., this is much less likely, kids kind of know where they are in 
the heirarchy of doom.

Online it is a bit more complicated because the visual, intuitive physical 
clues about power are much less in evidence. A number of online incidents of 
bullying seem to have relied on an actual physical familiarity of the people. 
Now here on FFL, it is less clear, though there are pictures of some of the 
people here. I do not think Curtis talks like a bully normally, and Judy, I 
think you tend to use language in a way that seems kind of like bullying, in 
the sense of the New Zealand definition, I think you use it to attempt to get 
power over others. Your are probably better at this than Curtis could be 
because you know meanings and syntax better. Curtis mispells words from time to 
time.

 But all this is bluff and bluster parsing on your part.  You
 know that you were using the term to make Sal look worse than
 if she was just being sarcastic, you were implying that she
 was doing something that we all sense is unfair, bullying.
 
 That would make no sense at all, Curtis, since we all know
 there are no power differentials on FFL.
 
 Or would you be comfortable with a claim that Robin's long 
 criticisms of me were an act of bullying on his part?
 
 Sure. Not anywhere near as nasty as Sal's bullying, though.
 Or as malicious as your bullying of him with regard to the
 open letter. Or your 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bullying

2012-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:
snip
 I do not think Curtis talks like a bully normally,

I do not think I said he did. He does not, in fact, talk like
a bully except in the context of a hostile conflict.

 and Judy, I think you tend to use language in a way that
 seems kind of like bullying, in the sense of the New Zealand
 definition, I think you use it to attempt to get power over
 others.

Usually only in response to others' attempts to get power
over me or over somebody else by bullying me/them.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bullying

2012-02-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  snip
 
  I checked many definitions of the term when I designed my course
  including over a dozen books on the subject.  I am familiar with 
  the term in detail and you are misusing it as a way to make Sal 
  look bad. It also neuters an important term following your absurd 
  assertion that a power differential is not key.
  
  This is just bluster, Curtis. In fact, you're attempting
  to bully *me*.
 
 I think Curtis is just elucidating points. Misusing it
as a way to make Sal look bad is bullying.

  The Merriam Webster Collegiate* Dictionary, 11th edition,
  has this definition:
  
  a blustering browbeating person; especially: one
  habitually cruel to others who are weaker.
  
  Especially does not mean limited to.
  
  The definition of browbeating includes intimidation because
  it also rests on an inequality of power to be 
  meaningful.
  
  Are you really trying to claim one person can't intimidate
  another person unless there's an inequality of power to
  start with? That's just bizarre. Intimidation can *create*
  an inequality of power between two people who were peers
  to start with. And so, of course, can bullying.
  
  Especially means in particular, to help distinguish this
  word's meanings from others.  In other words they are
  defining the term in terms of its reliance on the other
  person being weaker.
  
  Nope, you're wrong, sorry. Especially defines a special
  sense distinguished from the more general sense of the
  definition that precedes it. Especially does not *limit*
  how the word may be used to that special sense. At least
  not per Merriam-Webster. It's called a sense divider.
 
 
   es·pe·cial·ly
 
   adverb
 
   Used to single out one person, thing, or situation over all others
   - he despised them all, especially Sylvester
   - a new song, written especially for Jonathan
 
   To a great extent; very much
   - he didn't especially like dancing
   - sleep is especially important for growing children
 
 
 I think Judy got you there Curtis.

Thanks, but note that it's Merriam-Webster who got him
there. That's how they use the esp. designation, to
elucidate a particular sense encompassed by a more
general sense. He despised them all, especially
Sylvester is the closest example you've given above:
the general followed by the particular. What Curtis is
trying to claim with regard to the bully definition
amounts to insisting that the person despised *only*
Sylvester, which is clearly absurd.

The M-W dictionary has extensive explanations in the
front of the book of all the various terms used in its
definitions; this isn't just my interpretation based
on the definition of especially.




[FairfieldLife] The Ghent Altarpiece

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
Jan Van Eyck, 1432; featuring Adam, Eve, and God. ...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Eyck.hubert.lamb.750pix.jpg





[FairfieldLife] The Crucifixion

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
Jan Van Eyck, 1430

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/item.php?item=735 



[FairfieldLife] Madonna of Chancellor Rolin

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
Jan Van Eyck, 1435; commissioned by Chancellor Nicolas Rolin for a Parish 
Church.

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/26.jpg



[FairfieldLife] The Butterfly

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
by John Collier

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/59507.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Wreck of the Gratitude

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
Macquairie Island, 1911

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/59541.jpg



[FairfieldLife] The remains of Cosmonaut Vladimir Komorov

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
after the crash of Soyuz 1; 1967

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/59539.jpg



[FairfieldLife] A glass of wine with Caesar Borgia

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
I wouldn't touch that wine
by John Collier, 1893

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/59499.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Clint Eastwood with armadillo

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
Wouldn't touch that either!

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/59520.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: Barriers to Enlightenment

2012-02-23 Thread John
wgm4u,

My comments are shown below:

1.  In the Old Testament, the story of Adam and Eve tells us of the 
devolution of the first human beings from unity consciousness to the bondage of 
the gunas.  The main key to their fall was their pride of being equal to the 
Source of the unified field.  Thus, they disobeyed the rule by eating the 
forbidden fruit.
 
 Actually, involution would perhaps describe it better, they certainly weren't 
 in Unity Consciousness. 

There are many ways to interpret the story of Adam and Eve.  The bible author 
could have meant that the dawning of human awareness or consciousness started 
out at the highest level, namely at unity consciousness.  This is the reason 
why we read in the bible text that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden 
of Eden.

This idea doesn't necessarily mean that the theory of evolution is incorrect.  
It's still possible that the human physiology evolved from lesser species.  The 
major change of event is when the first humans acquired awareness or 
consciousness of themselves.

However, there are some people both Christians and others who believe that 
humans did not evolve from the lower species.  They believe that humans 
devolved from the spirit world to the world of the flesh.  Thus, we encounter 
the likes of the Christian Creationists who interpret the bible literally. 


A. Infant humanity was the product of eons of evolution through all the 
kingdoms of nature, mineral, plant and animal. The consciousness that 
evolved/involved through the kingdoms finally arrived at the state where a 
special creation was made (man) by God, with all the potentials possible as 
reflected in man as having all 7 chakras.


I agree somewhat with what you're saying here.  But there is an author by the 
name of Michael Cremo who believes that human beings have been on earth for 
millions of years, perhaps during the time of the dinosaurs.

However, he believes that humans devolved directly from the spirit world.  In 
other words, humans are not related to the lower primates.



 
B. The Divine Plan is to evolve man to the point where his 
material/astral/causal physiology can unfold a pure reflection of Being or 
Consciousness, (which is Cosmic Consciousness or what MMY calls Unity 
Consciousness), then man can be said to be truly made In the Image of God.

I understand your point.  Using the bible story, it is possible to believe that 
this apex of development started out at unity consciousness, which is in the 
image of God.


C. The lose-knit allegory of the 'fall' is merely a story encapsulating the 
ingredients of this transformation of nescient (ignorant) man.

Using the bible text, the first humans may not have been as ignorant as you may 
think.  They may have been fully aware of their consciousness and of God the 
Father who walked with them.  That means they lived life in bliss and 
enlightenment, as MMY would describe it.

 
 
D. Pride came later; once they were given *free will* they were also told by 
the Almighty, if you yield to the sex sensations you will 'fall' from the 
Garden of Eden (Paradise lost), but as Satan (the Luciferian spirits, the 
light givers who 'opened' their eyes) proclaimed, but ye shall be as Gods. 
Both 'Satan' and 'God' were right and merely stating the facts of the matter! 
(It's just a story!!)

Pride comes along with human awareness, IMO.  It is possible that Adam and Eve 
wanted something more than what God had given them.  They wanted to experience 
evil for themselves.  They were not satisfied with knowing evil by inference 
during their stay in the Garden of Eden.  Thus, they rebelled and ate the 
forbidden fruit.





 
E. So Adam and Eve (early man) persevered and became the 'pioneers' who 
ventured forth from their passive nescience (ignorant) state of being to 
fulfill their inner urge to unfold their full potential. It was all part of a 
plan, 'Satan' was merely playing a role.

It's also possible to interpret that after their experience of evil, they fully 
realized that they have voluntarily put their spirit in bondage to the senses 
and matter.  Thus, the bible tells us that they lost their immortal status and 
suffered for the rest of their life here on earth.




  
2.   Along with pride came the desire to indulge in the senses.  Since they 
thought they were gods, then they can get anything they wanted in the 
phenomenal world.  By doing so, they knowingly put their spirit in bondage to 
matter.
 
 I don't think they had much mind function in those early periods, I think the 
 'chit' (sensation and feeling) was the first to evolve and mind came later, 
 FWIW.

The point I'm saying is that when the animal physiology and mind became fully 
human, then there was full awareness, but at the same time there was an 
inherent danger of falling into the sin of pride.


 
 Sources: The Cosmo Conception (Max Heindel) and The Second Coming of Christ 
 (Paramahansa Yogananda).





[FairfieldLife] Re: Alignment of Planets

2012-02-23 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 02/23/2012 01:19 PM, John wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros 
  Anartaxiusanartaxius@  wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
  anartaxius@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Johnjr_esq@  wrote:
  The Moon is now in conjunction with Mercury and the Sun in Aquarius.
  Suppose you were *on* Mars. What would it look like and what would be
  the significance from that viewpoint? I spilled two Cheerios on the
  floor. They are lying there eight inches apart. From across the room
  they look like they are in conjunction, but to an ant between them, they
  are far, far apart.
 
 
  This is a good question.  I believe the planets would have different
  perspectives and effects when on Mars.  From Mars, you would not see the
  Moon of Earth on the horizon.  Instead, you would see and be affected by
  the Moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos.  In addition, you would see and be
  affected by the presence of the planet Earth.
 
  Current position (23 February 2012) of the planets, from a different
  point of view. Constellation names included.
 
 
 
 
  The fuzzy spot to the right of the sun is the Large Magellanic Cloud,
  and the bright spot below the cloud is the Tarantula Nebula. Suppose
  someone is born at this time at this viewing location. What is their
  future?
 
 
  With an alignment of planets like that, the location of the viewer must be 
  outside the planet Earth.  As such, the environment must be unlike Earth 
  and no humans could possibly live there.  I would venture to guess that 
  this viewpoint could only be taken by a space probe.
 
 
 Well, maybe no humans but why does sentient life have to be human or 
 even be composed of matter visible in our narrow visual range?   I go 
 with the universe behaving more like fractals and as such our species 
 would be replicated throughout the universe along with other intelligent 
 species too.  We can't be so vain to think we're that unique or even 
 that bright.  We seem to be just highly domesticated apes and who did 
 the domestication is a real mystery.  Or maybe an ape ate some matter 
 from an asteroid that contained DNA of an intelligent species and the 
 modification came from that.  I also look up on a living beings 
 including humans to be biological machines just following learned patterns.


These are good points.  MMY would certainly agree that there is consciousness 
in every particle of atom throughout the universe and the multiverse.  
Sentience could certainly appear anywhere given the billions of galaxies 
throughout the universe.

Human sentience in primates could have developed as part of the natural process 
of evolution.  However, there are some people, like Michael Cremo, who believe 
that humans devolved from the spirit world into this physical world.

Humans can be considered biological machines.  But you would have to account 
for human consciousness.  Where did it come from?


  




[FairfieldLife] Diorama of humans coexisting peacefully with T-Rex

2012-02-23 Thread Yifu
Yup...no doubt about it. This diorama from a Creation Museum courtesy of Wiki 
proves that humans lived peacefully with the dinosaurs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Creation_Museum_10.png



[FairfieldLife] Hillary's prescience on the 2008 Bank Bailouts

2012-02-23 Thread raunchydog
Hillary appeared on talk shows during the financial crisis September 23, 2008, 
a month after the nomination. She wanted to bailout homeowners, and hold banks 
accountable. Jeez, what a novel idea. Four years later, the Occupy Wall Street 
folks agree with her. Hillary strongly supported regulating the banks and the 
public option for health insurance. Too bad no one listened to her. Maybe more 
people could have stayed in their homes and have less expensive health 
insurance. No wonder the DNC wanted Obama. Had he not rolled over for the 
banks, and dropped the ball on the public option, the DNC would have to go 
begging for campaign donations. 

Still smarting from Obama's renewed populist rhetoric, Wall Street now loves 
them some Mittens but not to worry, Obama's ace in the hole is money from the 
military industrial complex now tooling up to manufacture insect-sized drones 
that can fly around in your backyard to see if you're smoking pot or doing sun 
salutations in the buff. Who will win the future? The war profiteers or free 
market libertarians, for whom greed is the only virtue? 

More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path 
leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us 
pray we have the wisdom to choose wisely. Woody Allen

Hillary Uneasy Over Bank Bailout 
http://youtu.be/11qXjmmx7m4

Hillary Talks About The Economy on NBC Today Show
http://youtu.be/YT8VManPu0c

HRC on MSNBC's Morning Joe 
http://youtu.be/9cCPngU_TqI

HRC on CNN's American Morning 
http://youtu.be/xj3bzyMOomA