[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. Curtis was commenting on the fact that over the many years that Nablus has been Buddhist bashing on this forum, we haven't heard a single word about it from Judy. And we wouldn't have this time unless Curtis had prodded her. It's *OK* in Judy's book for Nabby (and Jim, who used to do the same thing) to bash Buddhists, thinking that doing so will bother Vaj or I. She has established a long, long, many-year history of not feeling that this is out of place. Somehow it's only criticism of TMers that she feels is evil. Curtis was pointing out her hypocrisy. As usual, you didn't get it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. Curtis was commenting on the fact that over the many years that Nablus has been Buddhist bashing on this forum, we haven't heard a single word about it from Judy. And we wouldn't have this time unless Curtis had prodded her. It's *OK* in Judy's book for Nabby (and Jim, who used to do the same thing) to bash Buddhists, thinking that doing so will bother Vaj or I. She has established a long, long, many-year history of not feeling that this is out of place. Somehow it's only criticism of TMers that she feels is evil. Curtis was pointing out her hypocrisy. As usual, you didn't get it. If Judy disputes this, she can simply find and repost any post she has made taking Nabby or Jim to task over their consistent Tibet-bashing and Buddhist-bashing over the years. I doubt she'll be able to find and repost a single one, much less more than one. The thing is, neither Nabby or I are Buddhists. I have never taken refuge or joined any formal Buddhist order, and never will, although I have learned some techniques from Buddhist teachers. Both Nabby and Jim just take this approach because they're still stung by things we've said poking fun at TMers, and they hope that bashing Buddhists and Buddhism will similarly get under our skin. History has proven that it doesn't. Neither of us is *like* them -- or Judy -- so identified with a *group* that anything said about that group is perceived as a personal insult or attack. That's *their* samskara, not ours. I've studied with Yaqui shamans, too. I wonder how long it'll take Nabby to start bashing them now that I've pointed it out. And for Judy to quietly sit back and allow him to do so. :-) But if Curtis does a funny Tyler Perry riff on someone that Judy identifies with as both a woman and a genuflect TMer, he's evil and she goes bat shit crazy over it. If I or Vaj point out how idiotic many of the TM beliefs and practices are , in Judy's mind that is nigh unto a hate crime. Or at least she'll spin it that way, because that'll allow her to do what she really wants to do -- bash one of her perceived enemies. Nabby posting this photo didn't bother me in the least, nor did his trying to associate it with me. I just shrugged and moved on to the next post. But Judy would have never said a word about it if Curtis hadn't called her on her silence. Her claim to have not reacted because she hadn't seen it yet is an absolute lie, and her own past history on this forum proves it.
[FairfieldLife] The Nabby Issue
It is tempting, from time to time, to point to nablusos1008 on this forum as a prime example of TMer stupidity and bigotry, or TM True Believer (which few would dispute that he is) stupidity and bigotry, but I don't think that's really it. True, the opinions and statements he makes here *are* reflective of how a great number of TM True Believers think -- saying that Rick is damned eternally to Hell for creating this forum, that all forms of meditation (especially Buddhist ones) are lesser than TM, that most people who criticize TM and Maharishi are paid to do so by the CIA and/or the Dalai Lama, and that Buddhism is a low-vibe belief system and that Buddhists think of little else but destroying TM and are trained to do so. All of these kinds of statements and more, including making up obvious lies about people on this forum, have been made over and over by Nabby on this forum, and have gone remarkably uncommented on and unchallenged by the other TM supporters here. Including (and especially) some who characterize themselves as crusaders for fairness, self-appointed hall monitors whose *dharma* they claim it is to point out any instance of unfairness or bigotry here, and blast away at the transgressors. Their silence about his excesses speaks volumes about the true nature of TMers and their supposed superiority, morality-wise. But, having said all this, I don't think that being a TM bigot is really Nabby's problem. I think it's that he's German. Germans are, after all, the nationality that produced Hitler and the Holocaust. They are the nationality that produced Raja Immanuel, who was so Maharishi-whipped that he preached for TM as a method of creating an Invincible Germany, clueless to the fact that this would make him -- and Maharishi -- sound like Neo-Nazis, even in Germany itself. Even in the TM movement, Germans have long been looked down upon as the backwards, wannabee-fascists they are. Think about WYMS, the gangster brigade created by Maharishi who became hated movement-wide for their strongarm tactics and oh-so-superior Aryan ways. So for lurkers who are looking for an explanation as to Nabby's craziness and excesses, although it is tempting to blame them on a lifetime of being a TM cultist and thus having been brainwashed by Maharishi, I don't think that's the whole story. You can't really blame the things Nabby believes and says on TM alone. It's in his blood. ANYONE of German ancestry is like this. It just comes with the territory, and is part of the collective gene pool. Germans and the descendants of Germans just can't help themselves; they're the retards of the human race. You know...the same way that being critical of TM or Maharishi is inextricably tied to being Buddhist. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
Do you really think Nabby's comments consitute anything more than low level noise here? 90% of the time they are just rote responses defending TM in all its forms along with MMY. I think when he ventures into certain personal insults, he gets push back. I know I have (in the past) called him on comments I thought were inappropiate. I don't anymore, because I think it is a waste of time. I view them as just a kind knee jerk venting. You always know what your going to see. I admit, his comments demeaning Curtis, reflect very poorly on the what comes out of long, long term meditator, sidha, governor. I disagree that Judy would not have called Nabby on what she felt was an over the top remark or post. I have seen her come to your defense when she felt you were unfairly attacked. Incidents with Edg come to mind. I don't know what I would feel like if I had been the target of repeated challenges as you and Curtis have. But I think it has affected your outlook here. I don't see Judy in the same light you do. I have to say that just recently I was very harsh in some comments I made about Judy. And I was expecting a harsh response. But it did not arrive. I admit that this has affected, in a positve way, my feeling towards Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. Curtis was commenting on the fact that over the many years that Nablus has been Buddhist bashing on this forum, we haven't heard a single word about it from Judy. And we wouldn't have this time unless Curtis had prodded her. It's *OK* in Judy's book for Nabby (and Jim, who used to do the same thing) to bash Buddhists, thinking that doing so will bother Vaj or I. She has established a long, long, many-year history of not feeling that this is out of place. Somehow it's only criticism of TMers that she feels is evil. Curtis was pointing out her hypocrisy. As usual, you didn't get it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: It is tempting, from time to time, to point to nablusos1008 on this forum as a prime example of TMer stupidity and bigotry, or TM True Believer (which few would dispute that he is) stupidity and bigotry, Well, I do my best also. But, I really appreciate how original Nablusoss can be in defending the practice against the haters here. -Buck in FF but I don't think that's really it. True, the opinions and statements he makes here *are* reflective of how a great number of TM True Believers think -- saying that Rick is damned eternally to Hell for creating this forum, that all forms of meditation (especially Buddhist ones) are lesser than TM, that most people who criticize TM and Maharishi are paid to do so by the CIA and/or the Dalai Lama, and that Buddhism is a low-vibe belief system and that Buddhists think of little else but destroying TM and are trained to do so. All of these kinds of statements and more, including making up obvious lies about people on this forum, have been made over and over by Nabby on this forum, and have gone remarkably uncommented on and unchallenged by the other TM supporters here. Including (and especially) some who characterize themselves as crusaders for fairness, self-appointed hall monitors whose *dharma* they claim it is to point out any instance of unfairness or bigotry here, and blast away at the transgressors. Their silence about his excesses speaks volumes about the true nature of TMers and their supposed superiority, morality-wise. But, having said all this, I don't think that being a TM bigot is really Nabby's problem. I think it's that he's German. Germans are, after all, the nationality that produced Hitler and the Holocaust. They are the nationality that produced Raja Immanuel, who was so Maharishi-whipped that he preached for TM as a method of creating an Invincible Germany, clueless to the fact that this would make him -- and Maharishi -- sound like Neo-Nazis, even in Germany itself. Even in the TM movement, Germans have long been looked down upon as the backwards, wannabee-fascists they are. Think about WYMS, the gangster brigade created by Maharishi who became hated movement-wide for their strongarm tactics and oh-so-superior Aryan ways. So for lurkers who are looking for an explanation as to Nabby's craziness and excesses, although it is tempting to blame them on a lifetime of being a TM cultist and thus having been brainwashed by Maharishi, I don't think that's the whole story. You can't really blame the things Nabby believes and says on TM alone. It's in his blood. ANYONE of German ancestry is like this. It just comes with the territory, and is part of the collective gene pool. Germans and the descendants of Germans just can't help themselves; they're the retards of the human race. You know...the same way that being critical of TM or Maharishi is inextricably tied to being Buddhist. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Are you ready for O?
2. Community Prepares for Oprah Show As this issue of The Review went to press, Oprah's program about the MUM and Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City communities was expected to air on March 25, and many initiatives are now underway to accommodate the increased interest in the community that the show is expected to generate. These include an information center near the south Highway 34 interchange that will have expanded hours. In addition, plans are underway to open the Taste of Fairfield visitors weekends in May and June to those who don't practice the Transcendental Meditation technique. Plus, a website is being developed that contains resources and links for those interested in Fairfield. And planning continues for MUM's Experience the Self event to be held July 10-22. A self-guided tour is being developed by the Fairfield Arts Convention Center for those who just show up in town. And a one-day training session for volunteer ambassadors will be offered. Coordinating much of this planning is MUM alum Mariam Daudi. There's a lot of excitement surrounding the airing, she said. The whole community is coming together to prepare in case there's a big response. It's fulfilling to work with so many different community leaders. Those involved include Fairfield officials, the Chamber of Commerce, the Convention Center, Maharishi School, MUM, Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi Foundation, the David Lynch Foundation, the Ideal Community Group, and more. To volunteer, email mariamda...@gmail.com.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah TM, the morning after...
Viewing it now, Oprah was extremely generous and kind in her editing. Even speaking for it succinctly like in the voice-over moment she composed in that last part about the pandits. Yep, Fairfield certainly isn't monolithic. Oprah told the high-minded story. Of course there is a spectrum of what Fairfield is and these reactions start to catch that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Some people are never satisfied. She could only cover so much in the time she had, and the program will likely have the intended effect. One couple in Detroit saw the show and left for Fairfield early the very next morning. A friend of mine met them by chance yesterday in one of the local restaurants, so I know the story is true. Asking around with people, responses: -It was not enough about Fairfield. -Didn't go to the public Oprah showings because there was another satsang that night that was real nice. -Oprah was doing fine with Fairfield and TM in the school, and then they went to the pundits. -She told the utopian story. web page responses: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Sneak-Preview-Oprah-Visits-Americas-Most-Unusual-Town-Video
[FairfieldLife] My Heroine
86-Year Old's Gymnastic Routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2bOED5LzZwfeature=youtube_gdata_player
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. No, Ann, he knew it was very unlikely I'd have seen it by the time he made his post 20 minutes after Nabby's. He also knew folks wouldn't bother to check the timestamps and realize how quickly he'd made his post. He fully intended to create the false impression that anyone who was going to comment negatively on Nabby's post would have already done so. And if anybody did, that it would appear we'd been shamed into it by his post. He knew exactly what he was doing. And BTW, you were included in his condemnation. You were the first to criticize Barry for his a little off post. Curtis had no reason to think you had seen it during that 20 minutes either. He saw an opportunity to bash both of us because we'd criticized Barry, and he took it. I guess you didn't disappoint in the end because I didn't hear Jiminy, or any other cricket for that matter, once you got wind of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Phew, I'm glad somebody could decipher that message but I still don't know what it means. Crickets? As in Jiminy?? In this type of context, Crickets means silence, as in, the only thing you hear is crickets. With any luck, the post of Nabby's this refers to got deleted before you arrived this evening. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Wow Nabbie, I fear that the crew who gave Barry a rash of S for his remark about the solder being a bit off are going to have a field day working you over on this sensitivity issue. They will right? Crickets. I forgot how the place works for a second, sorry. You'll be just fine, carry on. Says Curtis, less than 20 minutes later, making the assumption that everyone on FFL would have seen it in that 20 minutes--in the middle of the afternoon on a workday, yet--and would have commented if they were going to. Curtis, I have a suggestion as to where you can put your crickets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
No origin showing on FFL to the creator of the thread! Damn. I missed the drama! Nabby is protected by the delete button. He must have Guru well placed in his birth chart. : ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: It is tempting, from time to time, to point to nablusos1008 on this forum as a prime example of TMer stupidity and bigotry, or TM True Believer (which few would dispute that he is) stupidity and bigotry, but I don't think that's really it. True, the opinions and statements he makes here *are* reflective of how a great number of TM True Believers think -- saying that Rick is damned eternally to Hell for creating this forum, that all forms of meditation (especially Buddhist ones) are lesser than TM, that most people who criticize TM and Maharishi are paid to do so by the CIA and/or the Dalai Lama, and that Buddhism is a low-vibe belief system and that Buddhists think of little else but destroying TM and are trained to do so. All of these kinds of statements and more, including making up obvious lies about people on this forum, have been made over and over by Nabby on this forum, and have gone remarkably uncommented on and unchallenged by the other TM supporters here. Including (and especially) some who characterize themselves as crusaders for fairness, self-appointed hall monitors whose *dharma* they claim it is to point out any instance of unfairness or bigotry here, and blast away at the transgressors. Their silence about his excesses speaks volumes about the true nature of TMers and their supposed superiority, morality-wise. But, having said all this, I don't think that being a TM bigot is really Nabby's problem. I think it's that he's German. Germans are, after all, the nationality that produced Hitler and the Holocaust. They are the nationality that produced Raja Immanuel, who was so Maharishi-whipped that he preached for TM as a method of creating an Invincible Germany, clueless to the fact that this would make him -- and Maharishi -- sound like Neo-Nazis, even in Germany itself. Even in the TM movement, Germans have long been looked down upon as the backwards, wannabee-fascists they are. Think about WYMS, the gangster brigade created by Maharishi who became hated movement-wide for their strongarm tactics and oh-so-superior Aryan ways. So for lurkers who are looking for an explanation as to Nabby's craziness and excesses, although it is tempting to blame them on a lifetime of being a TM cultist and thus having been brainwashed by Maharishi, I don't think that's the whole story. You can't really blame the things Nabby believes and says on TM alone. It's in his blood. ANYONE of German ancestry is like this. It just comes with the territory, and is part of the collective gene pool. Germans and the descendants of Germans just can't help themselves; they're the retards of the human race. You know...the same way that being critical of TM or Maharishi is inextricably tied to being Buddhist. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Heroine
I'd hire her to help with shearing sheep. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: 86-Year Old's Gymnastic Routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2bOED5LzZwfeature=youtube_gdata_player
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you ready for O?
I've heard that Fairfield -- *not* Pic de Bugurach in France -- will be the location from which our Space Brothers will pick up the true and faithful on December 21, 2012 and whisk them away to safety in the skies before the Earth is destroyed. The Independent, a well-regarded news journal from the UK, has reported that over 20,000 seekers have already visited Fairfield in the days since Oprah's show, and that 100,000 more are expected to visit and/or move there before the Apocalypse itself happens. That is the real reason these tours and information centers are being set up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: 2. Community Prepares for Oprah Show As this issue of The Review went to press, Oprah's program about the MUM and Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City communities was expected to air on March 25, and many initiatives are now underway to accommodate the increased interest in the community that the show is expected to generate. These include an information center near the south Highway 34 interchange that will have expanded hours. In addition, plans are underway to open the Taste of Fairfield visitors weekends in May and June to those who don't practice the Transcendental Meditation technique. Plus, a website is being developed that contains resources and links for those interested in Fairfield. And planning continues for MUM's Experience the Self event to be held July 10-22. A self-guided tour is being developed by the Fairfield Arts Convention Center for those who just show up in town. And a one-day training session for volunteer ambassadors will be offered. Coordinating much of this planning is MUM alum Mariam Daudi. There's a lot of excitement surrounding the airing, she said. The whole community is coming together to prepare in case there's a big response. It's fulfilling to work with so many different community leaders. Those involved include Fairfield officials, the Chamber of Commerce, the Convention Center, Maharishi School, MUM, Maharishi Vedic City, Maharishi Foundation, the David Lynch Foundation, the Ideal Community Group, and more. To volunteer, email mariamdaudi@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah TM, the morning after...
Other journalists will come along behind Oprah for other parts of the story, she cut a wide swath to start with. There are some factual errors in her show that could give other journalists investigative pieces to clarify. Viewing it now, Oprah was extremely generous and kind in her editing. Even speaking for it succinctly like in the voice-over moment she composed in that last part about the pandits. Yep, Fairfield certainly isn't monolithic. Oprah told the high-minded story. Of course there is a spectrum of what Fairfield is and these reactions start to catch that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Some people are never satisfied. She could only cover so much in the time she had, and the program will likely have the intended effect. One couple in Detroit saw the show and left for Fairfield early the very next morning. A friend of mine met them by chance yesterday in one of the local restaurants, so I know the story is true. Asking around with people, responses: -It was not enough about Fairfield. -Didn't go to the public Oprah showings because there was another satsang that night that was real nice. -Oprah was doing fine with Fairfield and TM in the school, and then they went to the pundits. -She told the utopian story. web page responses: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Sneak-Preview-Oprah-Visits-Americas-Most-Unusual-Town-Video
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. Curtis was commenting on the fact that over the many years that Nablus has been Buddhist bashing on this forum, we haven't heard a single word about it from Judy. Barry's lying. Curtis was attacking Ann and me because we'd criticized Barry for his a little off post: Wow Nabbie, I fear that the crew who gave Barry a rash of S for his remark about the solder being 'a bit off' are going to have a field day working you over on this sensitivity issue. Nothing to do with Buddhism. And you know what? Curtis isn't going to correct Barry. Nor did my criticism of Nabby have anything to do with Buddhist-bashing. And we wouldn't have this time unless Curtis had prodded her. Barry's lying. I made my post asking Nabby to delete his before I'd seen Curtis's post. It's *OK* in Judy's book for Nabby (and Jim, who used to do the same thing) to bash Buddhists, thinking that doing so will bother Vaj or I. She has established a long, long, many-year history of not feeling that this is out of place. That's right, I don't get very exercised over the mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj. The two of them are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum. They should be grateful they don't get the bashing they truly deserve. Somehow it's only criticism of TMers that she feels is evil. This is also a lie, on both counts. Curtis was pointing out her hypocrisy. As usual, you didn't get it. What Ann didn't get was Curtis's intention to make it appear as though any criticism of Nabby would have been made as a result of his attempt to shame. He knew nobody would check the time stamps and realize how soon after Nabby's post he had made his.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When all else fails...
Do you notice how there is an right angle bracket before each sentence Turq posts? He learned that from Judy over on Usenet, years ago. Others just use text wrap and so it looks messy with only one right angle bracket. Sometimes, when newbies post they don't snip, so the whole thing becomes a jumble to look at. Remember, you're dealing with professional writers with Barry and Judy - one does contract work for IBM with user manuals and 'Editpad'; the other uses 'Word'. They've been at this for decades. So, yes, it's text, but professionally formatted for easy reading. Everyone knows that plain text with line breaks is the preferred format for discussion groups. Go figure. Xenophaneros Anartaxius: It really depends on the system that the text is being processed through, whether you are responding through Yahoo's text editor or using the HTML editor, whether you get the post via email etc. I don't bother with it. Sometimes I will reformat something so it looks better after it has passed through many iterations of replies. The greater than character () is not quite a right angle and it is generated automatically when replying via Yahoo's text editor. What Judy and Barry do is manually format the line breaks so the lines tend to remain unbroken through several iterations of posts and replys, that is they make the lines short enough so reformat by the forum software which makes the lines longer by adding the '' character and additional spaces does not result in a new line break. Most do not fuss with this. I do not fuss with it. snip Oops, you failed to format properly so I will not be able reply to many of your messages until you learn how to format properly - just don't have the time to do your work for, Xeno. I appreciate your comments, but I just don't have time anymore to insert the brackets so as to make a coherent reply. Thanks for snipping - saves band-space. Formatting is the difference between a professional writer and a newbie - we always format for easy reading - it's part of our writing program. For others, it's just a pastime or a hobby, something people do for amusement, but not really interested in information sharing. Computer professionals always refer to the '' as a 'left angle bracket', whatever; the point is lots of people just can't take the time to learn formatting. That's why I said that Barry and Judy are professional writers - they know how important formatting is. P.S. The Yahoo! text editor is rich text, not plain text, but the same formatting principle applies - BREAK THE LINES.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. Curtis was commenting on the fact that over the many years that Nablus has been Buddhist bashing on this forum, we haven't heard a single word about it from Judy. And we wouldn't have this time unless Curtis had prodded her. False, as I've already pointed out. It's *OK* in Judy's book for Nabby (and Jim, who used to do the same thing) to bash Buddhists, thinking that doing so will bother Vaj or I. She has established a long, long, many-year history of not feeling that this is out of place. Somehow it's only criticism of TMers that she feels is evil. Also false. Curtis was pointing out her hypocrisy. As usual, you didn't get it. If Judy disputes this, she can simply find and repost any post she has made taking Nabby or Jim to task over their consistent Tibet-bashing and Buddhist-bashing over the years. I doubt she'll be able to find and repost a single one, much less more than one. Irrelevant, since (as Barry knows) neither Curtis's post nor my criticism of Nabby's post had anything to do with Buddhist- or Tibet-bashing. The thing is, neither Nabby or I are Buddhists. I have never taken refuge or joined any formal Buddhist order, and never will, although I have learned some techniques from Buddhist teachers. Barry has referred to himself as Buddhistic, just for the record. Both Nabby and Jim just take this approach because they're still stung by things we've said poking fun at TMers, and they hope that bashing Buddhists and Buddhism will similarly get under our skin. Somehow in Barry's mind it's perfectly OK for Barry and Vaj to poke fun at TMers (read: viciously attack and insult), but it's not OK for anybody to give them a taste of their own medicine. History has proven that it doesn't. Neither of us is *like* them -- or Judy -- so identified with a *group* that anything said about that group is perceived as a personal insult or attack. That's *their* samskara, not ours. I won't speak for Nabby, but that sure as hell isn't *my* samskara, and Barry knows it. I've studied with Yaqui shamans, too. I wonder how long it'll take Nabby to start bashing them now that I've pointed it out. And for Judy to quietly sit back and allow him to do so. :-) Looks like Barry really *has* been stung by Nabby's bashing. But if Curtis does a funny Tyler Perry riff on someone that Judy identifies with as both a woman and a genuflect TMer, he's evil and she goes bat shit crazy over it. As Barry knows, my primary complaint about that riff was its fat-bashing, and secondarily that this was directed against a woman. Had nothing to do with Oprah being a TMer. If I or Vaj point out how idiotic many of the TM beliefs and practices are , in Judy's mind that is nigh unto a hate crime. Or at least she'll spin it that way, because that'll allow her to do what she really wants to do -- bash one of her perceived enemies. False. Nabby posting this photo didn't bother me in the least, nor did his trying to associate it with me. I didn't criticize Nabby on Barry's behalf, as Barry knows. I just shrugged and moved on to the next post. But Judy would have never said a word about it if Curtis hadn't called her on her silence. False. Plus which, as I've already noted, Curtis's post had nothing to do with Buddhist-bashing, and he had zero reason to think I'd have seen Nabby's post 20 minutes after he made it. It was dishonest for him to call me on [my] silence before I'd had the chance to read Nabby's post. Her claim to have not reacted because she hadn't seen it yet is an absolute lie, and her own past history on this forum proves it. False, and false.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Do you really think Nabby's comments consitute anything more than low level noise here? 90% of the time they are just rote responses defending TM in all its forms along with MMY. I think when he ventures into certain personal insults, he gets push back. I know I have (in the past) called him on comments I thought were inappropiate. I don't anymore, because I think it is a waste of time. I view them as just a kind knee jerk venting. You always know what your going to see. Well put, Steve. I feel the same way. And obviously the folks at whom his venting is directed also consider it low level noise, so their making a huge issue out of his not being called on it is merely opportunistic. I admit, his comments demeaning Curtis, reflect very poorly on the what comes out of long, long term meditator, sidha, governor. I disagree that Judy would not have called Nabby on what she felt was an over the top remark or post. I have seen her come to your defense when she felt you were unfairly attacked. Incidents with Edg come to mind. I don't know what I would feel like if I had been the target of repeated challenges as you and Curtis have. But I think it has affected your outlook here. I don't see Judy in the same light you do. I have to say that just recently I was very harsh in some comments I made about Judy. And I was expecting a harsh response. But it did not arrive. I must have missed them. ;-) Seriously, thanks for your comments here. I admit that this has affected, in a positve way, my feeling towards Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. Curtis was commenting on the fact that over the many years that Nablus has been Buddhist bashing on this forum, we haven't heard a single word about it from Judy. And we wouldn't have this time unless Curtis had prodded her. It's *OK* in Judy's book for Nabby (and Jim, who used to do the same thing) to bash Buddhists, thinking that doing so will bother Vaj or I. She has established a long, long, many-year history of not feeling that this is out of place. Somehow it's only criticism of TMers that she feels is evil. Curtis was pointing out her hypocrisy. As usual, you didn't get it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When all else fails...
So, yes, it's text, but professionally formatted for easy reading. Everyone knows that plain text with line breaks is the preferred format for discussion groups. Go figure. It really depends on the system that the text is being processed through, whether you are responding through Yahoo's text editor or using the HTML editor, whether you get the post via email etc. I don't bother with it. Sometimes I will reformat something so it looks better after it has passed through many iterations of replies. The greater than character () is not quite a right angle authfriend: The term is right angle-bracket (as opposed to a left angle-bracket ), not right-angle bracket. Thanks for re-formatting Xeno's message - it's much easier to read with the angle bracket inserted before each reply line of text! 307292 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/307292 Xenophaneros Anartaxius: It really depends on the system that the text is being processed through, whether you are responding through Yahoo's text editor or using the HTML editor, whether you get the post via email etc. I don't bother with it. Sometimes I will reformat something so it looks better after it has passed through many iterations of replies. The greater than character () is not quite a right angle and it is generated automatically when replying via Yahoo's text editor. What Judy and Barry do is manually format the line breaks so the lines tend to remain unbroken through several iterations of posts and replys, that is they make the lines short enough so reformat by the forum software which makes the lines longer by adding the '' character and additional spaces does not result in a new line break. Most do not fuss with this. I do not fuss with it.
[FairfieldLife] Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could it be that Nabby's jocular posts, such as the recent one, are merely poking fun at Vaj, I, and 350 million Buddhists in the world, whereas our posts about TM and TMers are vicious attacks and insults? Does anyone detect a double standard here? Perhaps, since she will be unable to find any posts in which she has criticized Nabby or Jim for any of their jocular posts ragging on Buddhism and Tibet, she could find a few posts of mine and Vaj's that she feels are vicious attacks and repost them. I look forward to seeing them, because I suspect they'll be of the same ilk as the death threat she claims was made against her here on Fairfield Life. That is, pure vindictive drama queenery. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: When all else fails...
awoelflebater: Not only do I not fuss about it, I don't get it... Shit, I give up! What's so difficult about hitting the Enter key to break your lines? That way, the Yahoo! editor puts a right angle bracket before each line of text when you post your reply. snip See how this works? Do you notice how there is an right angle bracket before each sentence Turq posts? He learned that from Judy over on Usenet, years ago. Barry was active on Usenet way before I was. In any case, the brackets are put in by the software (unless one chooses to reformat a quote for easier reading, which both Barry and I do fairly frequently). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
You got it Barry. That tousle headed rapscallion Nabbie barely made a blip on the outrage meter with his using a burning human being as a putdown of your and a whole religion which, of course, you rightly notice is a bit of a trend. (constantly) The contrast in tone, and content is both instructive and insightful. And now notice the shift of attention from something that might be worthy of the vitriolics that go on here to you. Barry, seat of all evil, the baddest man in the whole damn town, meaner than a That was interesting wasn't it? How many posts were focused on a Yo mamma parody of Oprah? Did it get a this is offensive, please take it down? Nope it got the full monte of outrage. Any twist of phrase from you like a bit off gets both barrels. A fucking burning human being. Oh, that little scamp! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could it be that Nabby's jocular posts, such as the recent one, are merely poking fun at Vaj, I, and 350 million Buddhists in the world, whereas our posts about TM and TMers are vicious attacks and insults? Does anyone detect a double standard here? Perhaps, since she will be unable to find any posts in which she has criticized Nabby or Jim for any of their jocular posts ragging on Buddhism and Tibet, she could find a few posts of mine and Vaj's that she feels are vicious attacks and repost them. I look forward to seeing them, because I suspect they'll be of the same ilk as the death threat she claims was made against her here on Fairfield Life. That is, pure vindictive drama queenery. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: InSanitorium in the neighborhood
Bhairitu: What is unsustainable and we don't need are these wars of empire. Ryan should propose cutting those but he's a pig and won't. What is unsustainable are federal entitlements, the largest part of the federal deficit. Are you suggesting that the U.S. break all it's treaties and pull all it's troops out of Europe and Asia and then continue to run up our debt? You're not making any sense. But, yeah, compared to the Obama administration's proposed budget, Ryan's is brilliant! http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/defense-spending-entitlement-sp\ ending-problem 'House rejects Bowles-Simpson, Obama budgets' Washington Times, March 28, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/7kk9tmv http://tinyurl.com/7kk9tmv 'Ryan's budget kicks the can at timorous Democrats' Washington Examiner, March 20, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/865wanm http://tinyurl.com/865wanm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: When all else fails...
If I read and respond to FFL through yahoo email, are the responses automatically formatted this way? I think not, based on comments I've gotten from Richard. This is an example. How do I format the preferred way? Sorry, I need these things spelled out for me :( From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: When all else fails... So, yes, it's text, but professionally formatted for easy reading. Everyone knows that plain text with line breaks is the preferred format for discussion groups. Go figure. It really depends on the system that the text is being processed through, whether you are responding through Yahoo's text editor or using the HTML editor, whether you get the post via email etc. I don't bother with it. Sometimes I will reformat something so it looks better after it has passed through many iterations of replies. The greater than character () is not quite a right angle authfriend: The term is right angle-bracket (as opposed to a left angle-bracket ), not right-angle bracket. Thanks for re-formatting Xeno's message - it's much easier to read with the angle bracket inserted before each reply line of text! 307292 Xenophaneros Anartaxius: It really depends on the system that the text is being processed through, whether you are responding through Yahoo's text editor or using the HTML editor, whether you get the post via email etc. I don't bother with it. Sometimes I will reformat something so it looks better after it has passed through many iterations of replies. The greater than character () is not quite a right angle and it is generated automatically when replying via Yahoo's text editor. What Judy and Barry do is manually format the line breaks so the lines tend to remain unbroken through several iterations of posts and replys, that is they make the lines short enough so reformat by the forum software which makes the lines longer by adding the '' character and additional spaces does not result in a new line break. Most do not fuss with this. I do not fuss with it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
Barry, you fit your subject line well. Personally, I was happy that the photo got deleted...it was horrific. I find self-immolation tragic and disturbing on many levels. I closed it before I even got to the *why* Nabby posted it and I thought his decision to delete it was an honorable thing to do. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fat, old drama queens and their double standards Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could it be that Nabby's jocular posts, such as the recent one, are merely poking fun at Vaj, I, and 350 million Buddhists in the world, whereas our posts about TM and TMers are vicious attacks and insults? Does anyone detect a double standard here? Perhaps, since she will be unable to find any posts in which she has criticized Nabby or Jim for any of their jocular posts ragging on Buddhism and Tibet, she could find a few posts of mine and Vaj's that she feels are vicious attacks and repost them. I look forward to seeing them, because I suspect they'll be of the same ilk as the death threat she claims was made against her here on Fairfield Life. That is, pure vindictive drama queenery. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Shakespeare Sounded
http://soundcloud.com/evie-jeffreys Spellbinding.one fell swoop often turns into on swell foop. Isn't it almost the same discussion some years back on the use of period tuning and instruments (gut strings, valveless horns,Hammerklavier. lower concert pitch, les vibrato, etc) Now we can almost not listen to the early music without that origional-sound. Hope this might bring his great works into (increased) relevance,again. ..who thought the Bard's voice resembled Olivier's, Branaugh's, Stewarts, etc. anyway OTOH doesn't Shakespeare's Accent also illustrates how literal interpretation of text - see biblical texts ( about the divergence between literal understanding and contextualized understand, see Wikpedia's entry on The Book of Revelation: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation-) are actually more misleading than contextualized interpretations,resulting in inferior understanding, with consequent judgments, interpretations and frameworks-of-understanding deeply distorted by the dictum: Every text without a context is a pretext.?-seems to happen to MMY pretextaudio-video-library collected by Jerry Jarvis, already in our time [:D] now BTW Isn't American English of area in the US States that was first colonized, see Pennsylvania, New Jersey or the Barrier Islands off the Carolina's, often a snapshot of the British accent at the time ?The first English words spoken in Virginia were pronounced with a 17th-century London accent according to: Shakespearian accent and the legend of its preservation in remote East Coast communities. http://podcast.history.org/2011/01/17/new-world-english/ Sorry if the pal looks like our Turquoise-abc- no pun intended [:D] ...My salad days, / When I was green in judgment, cold in blood... Next week or -and tomorrow and tomorrow and..: how Shakespeare's plays weren't written by Shakespeare (again) Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,... [:D] ... Anything to humour our 'dear' Transatlantic friends, eh? Anonymous rhythm and the sonorous tones, you know, tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty FFL pace from day to day -Its the tones right?How so very musical, and depth of vision --just astounding. How about then next:Some people are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.quoted in H(B)ollywoods movies ? [:D] Out damn spot, out I say-The lily-livered, white-livered bard lives --or Good night, sweet prince, sweet for the sweet .. ...and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=8986 ..come on dude..let's go bowling.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Scholars reconstruct the pronunciation of Shakespeare with, they feel, 90%-95% accuracy. Story and some samples. http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2012/03/24/149160526/shakespeares-acc\ ent-how-did-the-bard-really-sound
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: It is tempting, from time to time, to point to nablusos1008 on this forum as a prime example of TMer stupidity and bigotry, or TM True Believer (which few would dispute that he is) stupidity and bigotry, but I don't think that's really it. True, the opinions and statements he makes here *are* reflective of how a great number of TM True Believers think -- saying that Rick is damned eternally to Hell for creating this forum, that all forms of meditation (especially Buddhist ones) are lesser than TM, that most people who criticize TM and Maharishi are paid to do so by the CIA and/or the Dalai Lama, and that Buddhism is a low-vibe belief system and that Buddhists think of little else but destroying TM and are trained to do so. All of these kinds of statements and more, including making up obvious lies about people on this forum, have been made over and over by Nabby on this forum, and have gone remarkably uncommented on and unchallenged by the other TM supporters here. Including (and especially) some who characterize themselves as crusaders for fairness, self-appointed hall monitors whose *dharma* they claim it is to point out any instance of unfairness or bigotry here, and blast away at the transgressors. Their silence about his excesses speaks volumes about the true nature of TMers and their supposed superiority, morality-wise. But, having said all this, I don't think that being a TM bigot is really Nabby's problem. I think it's that he's German. Germans are, after all, the nationality that produced Hitler and the Holocaust. They are the nationality that produced Raja Immanuel, who was so Maharishi-whipped that he preached for TM as a method of creating an Invincible Germany, clueless to the fact that this would make him -- and Maharishi -- sound like Neo-Nazis, even in Germany itself. Even in the TM movement, Germans have long been looked down upon as the backwards, wannabee-fascists they are. Think about WYMS, the gangster brigade created by Maharishi who became hated movement-wide for their strongarm tactics and oh-so-superior Aryan ways. So for lurkers who are looking for an explanation as to Nabby's craziness and excesses, although it is tempting to blame them on a lifetime of being a TM cultist and thus having been brainwashed by Maharishi, I don't think that's the whole story. You can't really blame the things Nabby believes and says on TM alone. It's in his blood. ANYONE of German ancestry is like this. It just comes with the territory, and is part of the collective gene pool. Germans and the descendants of Germans just can't help themselves; they're the retards of the human race. You know...the same way that being critical of TM or Maharishi is inextricably tied to being Buddhist. :-) I wonder how long the Dutch will survive without subsedies from the most productive country in Europe :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It is tempting, from time to time, to point to nablusos1008 on this forum as a prime example of TMer stupidity and bigotry, or TM True Believer (which few would dispute that he is) stupidity and bigotry, Well, I do my best also. But, I really appreciate how original Nablusoss can be in defending the practice against the haters here. -Buck in FF Thanks Buck !
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: InSanitorium in the neighborhood
On 03/29/2012 08:32 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu: What is unsustainable and we don't need are these wars of empire. Ryan should propose cutting those but he's a pig and won't. What is unsustainable are federal entitlements, the largest part of the federal deficit. Are you suggesting that the U.S. break all it's treaties and pull all it's troops out of Europe and Asia and then continue to run up our debt? You're not making any sense. But, yeah, compared to the Obama administration's proposed budget, Ryan's is brilliant! http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/defense-spending-entitlement-sp\ ending-problem 'House rejects Bowles-Simpson, Obama budgets' Washington Times, March 28, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/7kk9tmvhttp://tinyurl.com/7kk9tmv Entitlements? You PAID for your social security, it wasn't just given to you. You PAID for your medicare, it wasn't just given to you. Stop being a fool. Stop listening to those right wing crooks who want you to crawl away and die.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Melancholia, the movie
On 03/28/2012 02:50 PM, Susan wrote: Barry or Bhairi, Did you see the movie Melancholia? Whew. SO heavy. I saw netlfixed it. Amazing images and fabulous cast, but I found it disjointed (the wedding vs the time after). And incredibly intense. Both of us saw it last fall and reviewed it here. I watched it on Vudu when it was still in theaters. I really liked the film and thought it was Van Triers best so far.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Barry, you fit your subject line well. Personally, I was happy that the photo got deleted...it was horrific. I find self-immolation tragic and disturbing on many levels. I closed it before I even got to the *why* Nabby posted it and I thought his decision to delete it was an honorable thing to do. Don't be a drama queen yourself, Emily. This photo, as was pointed out in the discussion that followed its posting here, has appeared on most news sites and portals in the world in the last few days. I must have seen it on 20 different Internet sites before Nabby posted it here. If you didn't, you must be living in a world of sheltered denial. The whole *point* is WHY Nabby posted it. He didn't give a shit about the Tibetan who felt so strongly about his countrymen being killed and tortured by the Chinese that he took this desperate measure to bring it to the world's attention. The only thing he cared about was that to him it seemed to present him with an opportunity to bash Barry and Vaj and others on this forum who he perceived to be Buddhists. Nabby posting this photo is all about him still being pissed off about having to admit that he's never been able to stop his thoughts in meditation at will in his life, and will never be able to do so. He's had his panties in a twist ever since I posted my tiny troll, buried (at the time) in a larger post about other things. I honestly don't think he even considered it bashing Buddhism or bashing Buddhists. He was thinking *exactly* the same way Judy does, Heh...this photo gives me a way to 'get' Barry, and hopefully push his buttons the way he pushed mine. So don't be either a pussy (about a photo you arguably should have run into long before he posted it) or a pushover for the distractions that Judy is trying to throw your way. Nabby's post wasn't offensive because of the content (which was freely available elsewhere), or even because he used it to put down 350 million Buddhists. It was offensive because he's so fuckin' out of it that he feels it's his RIGHT to post a photo and an insinuation like the one he posted if it helps him to get Barry. Judy feels exactly the same way. As she recently stated, she feels that his over 500 putdowns of Buddhists and Buddhism are merely jocular, and that *they don't go far enough*. According to Judy, Vaj and I deserve much more bashing than this. It's not about the photo. It's about the level of vindictive craziness that feels that doing this is acceptable, or even sane. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fat, old drama queens and their double standards  Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could it be that Nabby's jocular posts, such as the recent one, are merely poking fun at Vaj, I, and 350 million Buddhists in the world, whereas our posts about TM and TMers are vicious attacks and insults? Does anyone detect a double standard here? Perhaps, since she will be unable to find any posts in which she has criticized Nabby or Jim for any of their jocular posts ragging on Buddhism and Tibet, she could find a few posts of mine and Vaj's that she feels are vicious attacks and repost them. I look forward to seeing them, because I suspect they'll be of the same ilk as the death threat she claims was made against her here on Fairfield Life. That is, pure vindictive drama queenery. :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] The Nabby Issue
Is Nabby German? I thought he lived in Scandinavia. Well Zieg Heil to you old buddy! From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:48 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Nabby Issue It is tempting, from time to time, to point to nablusos1008 on this forum as a prime example of TMer stupidity and bigotry, or TM True Believer (which few would dispute that he is) stupidity and bigotry, but I don't think that's really it. True, the opinions and statements he makes here *are* reflective of how a great number of TM True Believers think -- saying that Rick is damned eternally to Hell for creating this forum, that all forms of meditation (especially Buddhist ones) are lesser than TM, that most people who criticize TM and Maharishi are paid to do so by the CIA and/or the Dalai Lama, and that Buddhism is a low-vibe belief system and that Buddhists think of little else but destroying TM and are trained to do so. All of these kinds of statements and more, including making up obvious lies about people on this forum, have been made over and over by Nabby on this forum, and have gone remarkably uncommented on and unchallenged by the other TM supporters here. Including (and especially) some who characterize themselves as crusaders for fairness, self-appointed hall monitors whose *dharma* they claim it is to point out any instance of unfairness or bigotry here, and blast away at the transgressors. Their silence about his excesses speaks volumes about the true nature of TMers and their supposed superiority, morality-wise. But, having said all this, I don't think that being a TM bigot is really Nabby's problem. I think it's that he's German. Germans are, after all, the nationality that produced Hitler and the Holocaust. They are the nationality that produced Raja Immanuel, who was so Maharishi-whipped that he preached for TM as a method of creating an Invincible Germany, clueless to the fact that this would make him -- and Maharishi -- sound like Neo-Nazis, even in Germany itself. Even in the TM movement, Germans have long been looked down upon as the backwards, wannabee-fascists they are. Think about WYMS, the gangster brigade created by Maharishi who became hated movement-wide for their strongarm tactics and oh-so-superior Aryan ways. So for lurkers who are looking for an explanation as to Nabby's craziness and excesses, although it is tempting to blame them on a lifetime of being a TM cultist and thus having been brainwashed by Maharishi, I don't think that's the whole story. You can't really blame the things Nabby believes and says on TM alone. It's in his blood. ANYONE of German ancestry is like this. It just comes with the territory, and is part of the collective gene pool. Germans and the descendants of Germans just can't help themselves; they're the retards of the human race. You know...the same way that being critical of TM or Maharishi is inextricably tied to being Buddhist. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: No origin showing on FFL to the creator of the thread! Damn. I missed the drama! Nabby is protected by the delete button. He must have Guru well placed in his birth chart. : ) HaHa :-) Well I only deleted it because the Lioness of FFL disliked the picture very strongly. Nothing new about the pic BTW; just yet another Buddhist putting fire to himself due to the lack of leadership of the Dalai Llama, and I strongly suspect, lack of personal development from being a practising Buddhist. Same old, same old.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah TM, the morning after...
Kind, like Larry King interviewing Maharishi, Maharishi had been out of circulation for some years and it took an incredible amount of editing of a lot of tape on the part of Larry King's production staff to get a coherent interview to show publicly. Larry King was extremely kind in this same way too. Other journalists will come along behind Oprah for other parts of the story, she cut a wide swath to start with. There are some factual errors in her show that could give other journalists investigative pieces to clarify. Viewing it now, Oprah was extremely generous and kind in her editing. Even speaking for it succinctly like in the voice-over moment she composed in that last part about the pandits. Yep, Fairfield certainly isn't monolithic. Oprah told the high-minded story. Of course there is a spectrum of what Fairfield is and these reactions start to catch that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Some people are never satisfied. She could only cover so much in the time she had, and the program will likely have the intended effect. One couple in Detroit saw the show and left for Fairfield early the very next morning. A friend of mine met them by chance yesterday in one of the local restaurants, so I know the story is true. Asking around with people, responses: -It was not enough about Fairfield. -Didn't go to the public Oprah showings because there was another satsang that night that was real nice. -Oprah was doing fine with Fairfield and TM in the school, and then they went to the pundits. -She told the utopian story. web page responses: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Sneak-Preview-Oprah-Visits-Americas-Most-Unusual-Town-Video
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Is Nabby German? I thought he lived in Scandinavia. Well Zieg Heil to you old buddy! Do you have Germanic blood in your veins Rick, I thought it was Irish !? Anayway, Sieg Heil to you too, Mensch ! :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Is Nabby German? I thought he lived in Scandinavia. Well Zieg Heil to you old buddy! Do you have Germanic blood in your veins Rick, I thought it was Irish !? Anayway, Sieg Heil to you too, Mensch ! :-) I'm English, Irish, and Scottish. My people defeat your people whenever you start a world war.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: You got it Barry. That tousle headed rapscallion Nabbie barely made a blip on the outrage meter with his using a burning human being as a putdown of your and a whole religion which, of course, you rightly notice is a bit of a trend. (constantly) Note that my prediction that Curtis would not correct Barry's lie about *Curtis's own post*--which had not a thing to do with Buddhism--was 100 percent accurate. snip How many posts were focused on a Yo mamma parody of Oprah? One from me, until Curtis attempted disingenuously to defend it. The rest of my posts were focused on that defense. Did it get a this is offensive, please take it down? Nope it got the full monte of outrage. The original got *one single post* from me. And no, I didn't ask that it be taken down. It wasn't as offensive as Nabby's post; it didn't feature a ghastly photo of a human being dying in agony for a cause he believed in soley for the purpose of a cheap shot at Barry. That Curtis attempts to draw some kind of equivalence here is just more evidence of his hypocrisy and disingenuity. Any twist of phrase from you like a bit off gets both barrels. The only reason Barry got more than one post on his a bit off was his vicious dissing of Ann for daring to object to the phrase. Barry and Curtis are out of control. They have convinced themselves that as a team, they're invincible. But all they're doing is helping each other reveal their own weaknesses. A fucking burning human being. Oh, that little scamp! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could it be that Nabby's jocular posts, such as the recent one, are merely poking fun at Vaj, I, and 350 million Buddhists in the world, whereas our posts about TM and TMers are vicious attacks and insults? Does anyone detect a double standard here? Perhaps, since she will be unable to find any posts in which she has criticized Nabby or Jim for any of their jocular posts ragging on Buddhism and Tibet, she could find a few posts of mine and Vaj's that she feels are vicious attacks and repost them. I look forward to seeing them, because I suspect they'll be of the same ilk as the death threat she claims was made against her here on Fairfield Life. That is, pure vindictive drama queenery. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Barry, you fit your subject line well. Personally, I was happy that the photo got deleted...it was horrific. I find self-immolation tragic and disturbing on many levels. I closed it before I even got to the *why* Nabby posted it and I thought his decision to delete it was an honorable thing to do. Don't be a drama queen yourself, Emily. This photo, as was pointed out in the discussion that followed its posting here, has appeared on most news sites and portals in the world in the last few days. I must have seen it on 20 different Internet sites before Nabby posted it here. If you didn't, you must be living in a world of sheltered denial. Or perhaps she doesn't surf those particular news sites. I do a lot of surfing of news sites and blogs, and I hadn't seen it before either. The whole *point* is WHY Nabby posted it. Exactly, as I've repeatedly pointed out. He didn't give a shit about the Tibetan who felt so strongly about his countrymen being killed and tortured by the Chinese that he took this desperate measure to bring it to the world's attention. The only thing he cared about was that to him it seemed to present him with an opportunity to bash Barry and Vaj and others on this forum who he perceived to be Buddhists. Exactly, as I've repeatedly pointed out. Nabby posting this photo is all about him still being pissed off about having to admit that he's never been able to stop his thoughts in meditation at will in his life, and will never be able to do so. He's had his panties in a twist ever since I posted my tiny troll, buried (at the time) in a larger post about other things. Bullshit. I honestly don't think he even considered it bashing Buddhism or bashing Buddhists. He was thinking *exactly* the same way Judy does, Heh...this photo gives me a way to 'get' Barry, and hopefully push his buttons the way he pushed mine. That I think exactly the same way must be the reason I criticized him for doing this, right, Barry? So don't be either a pussy (about a photo you arguably should have run into long before he posted it) or a pushover for the distractions that Judy is trying to throw your way. The attempted distractions, of course, are Barry's and Curtis's. Nabby's post wasn't offensive because of the content (which was freely available elsewhere), or even because he used it to put down 350 million Buddhists. It was offensive because he's so fuckin' out of it that he feels it's his RIGHT to post a photo and an insinuation like the one he posted if it helps him to get Barry. Judy feels exactly the same way. Judy, in fact, chastised Nabby for the very reason Barry just stated. Barry knows this but is doing his best to convince readers otherwise. My original post to Nabby: Nabby, this was entirely unnecessary and hugely offensive FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS. Please delete it (emphasis added). That Nabby's post trivialized the death of a human being by using it to take a cheap shot at Barry was the main reason I found it offensive, and the one I tried to convey to Nabby in subsequent posts. The other reasons *included* the dissing of Buddhism, but that wasn't as important as far as I was concerned. As she recently stated, she feels that his over 500 putdowns of Buddhists and Buddhism are merely jocular, Most, not all. They're pretty lightweight as putdowns go. and that *they don't go far enough*. False. You couldn't *make* putdowns of Buddhists or Buddhism that would go far enough. According to Judy, Vaj and I deserve much more bashing than this. Yes, indeed they do. Nobody attacks them with the viciousness and dishonesty with which they attack TMers. They--now joined by Curtis--are the least decent human beings on this forum. Nabby came close to their lack of decency with his post, but to his credit he deleted it. Can you imagine Barry or Vaj or Curtis ever deleting one of their attacks on a TMer? It's not about the photo. It's about the level of vindictive craziness that feels that doing this is acceptable, or even sane. I'll just let this particular piece of vindictive craziness sit there for folks to contemplate.
[FairfieldLife] Is Judy Stein the FOX News of FFL?
The realization just struck me that this is very possibly an accurate analogy. You can tell as they're being interviewed that FOX News producers and presenters really don't KNOW that they are biased, and that they slant the news the way they see it, often at the expense of the facts of the situation. They really believe that they *are* Fair And Balanced. So does Judy Stein. She presents her version of the news every day here on Fairfield Life, often presented in a written tone of voice that presents it as absolute fact, not color commentary. As does FOX News. When called on mistakes, misstatements, and actual slander, just like FOX News she always doubles down, rather than man up and admit that she was wrong. When asked to describe her impact on her readers, she always portrays herself as having won. So does Rupert Murdoch's FOX News. I'm thinkin' they're twins separated at birth. What think you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
THE Otherness of Nablusoss The Other in the other room knows by now There's something in all of his fears Now he wears this thread bare he sits on the floor The glass pressed tight to the wall he hears murmurs low The screen is peeling eyes staring straight at the ceiling Maybe they're there Or maybe it's nothing at all As his graffiti smears on the wall? The Misty in the other room he powders his face stares into his Noh-theatrical reflection Stranger in the other room? he stifles a yawn Adjusting his theatrical gown he tosses his tresses FFL lover undresses Turning the last lamp light down What's that voice we're hearing We should be sleeping Could that be someone who's weeping Maybe he's there Maybe there's nothing to see Just a trace of what used to be Nablusoss in the other room he darkens his lash and blushes FFL seems looks familiar --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Is Nabby German? I thought he lived in Scandinavia. Well Zieg Heil to you old buddy! Do you have Germanic blood in your veins Rick, I thought it was Irish !? Anayway, Sieg Heil to you too, Mensch ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum I've never made that claim. As fair as I can be, yes, but I wouldn't claim balanced. I have my biases, just like everyone else. , she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) No, it can't, since I made it before I saw Curtis's despicable post. in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. And as Barry knows, my posts to Nabby had nothing to do with religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Barry means that when he did searches on these terms, he turned up those numbers of hits. But as he knows, those numbers don't represent the numbers of original posts, since they include all the replies that quote the originals. Plus which, since he didn't look at all those posts, he has no way of knowing whether they all involved bashing. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. Naaah. The viciousness quotient is way too low compared to that of Barry's and Vaj's (and now Curtis's) bashing of TMers. Nobody, including Barry and Vaj and Curtis, takes them seriously--except when they perceive an opportunity to use them to bash TMers. What Barry and Curtis are trying to put over is known as false equivalence. The exception is Nabby's recent post, which was uncharacteristically vicious for Nabby. He was rather severely chastised for it by me, and he ultimately deleted it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Judy Stein the FOX News of FFL?
Barry, stop digging. Everyone here recognizes the lies you're telling, including four in this post. Don't you put *any* value on your own credibility? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: The realization just struck me that this is very possibly an accurate analogy. You can tell as they're being interviewed that FOX News producers and presenters really don't KNOW that they are biased, and that they slant the news the way they see it, often at the expense of the facts of the situation. They really believe that they *are* Fair And Balanced. So does Judy Stein. She presents her version of the news every day here on Fairfield Life, often presented in a written tone of voice that presents it as absolute fact, not color commentary. As does FOX News. When called on mistakes, misstatements, and actual slander, just like FOX News she always doubles down, rather than man up and admit that she was wrong. When asked to describe her impact on her readers, she always portrays herself as having won. So does Rupert Murdoch's FOX News. I'm thinkin' they're twins separated at birth. What think you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Is Nabby German? I thought he lived in Scandinavia. Well Zieg Heil to you old buddy! Do you have Germanic blood in your veins Rick, I thought it was Irish !? Anayway, Sieg Heil to you too, Mensch ! :-) I'm English, Irish, and Scottish. My people defeat your people whenever you start a world war. And what would you fellows do, throw pints, skirts and bagpipes at us ? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
Barry, Are you having a bad day? I'm sorry. I honestly can barely focus my eyes on your vitriolic posts anymore - I scan for anything worthwhile out of habit but, I'm no longer reading your words. Sometimes individual phrases pop out, like you suggesting I not be a pussy, but overall, I can't stomach your negative energy anymore. I don't care where or how often the photo was posted - I find it horrific, period. I looked at it out of context and I'm glad it's deleted. It hurts to look at it. But, remember, I'm nowhere near where Xeno is staying in my left brain so to speak, which is how his text comes across on his reaction to the photo. Triggers? Excuse me? We are talking about one of our own species committing suicide in front of us. It's painful to see. Barry, from a distance, you must realize how angry you sound. Do you ever try read your posts with any objectivity? Go have yourself a good cry..you'll feel better and less paranoid. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Barry, you fit your subject line well. Personally, I was happy that the photo got deleted...it was horrific. I find self-immolation tragic and disturbing on many levels. I closed it before I even got to the *why* Nabby posted it and I thought his decision to delete it was an honorable thing to do. Don't be a drama queen yourself, Emily. This photo, as was pointed out in the discussion that followed its posting here, has appeared on most news sites and portals in the world in the last few days. I must have seen it on 20 different Internet sites before Nabby posted it here. If you didn't, you must be living in a world of sheltered denial. The whole *point* is WHY Nabby posted it. He didn't give a shit about the Tibetan who felt so strongly about his countrymen being killed and tortured by the Chinese that he took this desperate measure to bring it to the world's attention. The only thing he cared about was that to him it seemed to present him with an opportunity to bash Barry and Vaj and others on this forum who he perceived to be Buddhists. Nabby posting this photo is all about him still being pissed off about having to admit that he's never been able to stop his thoughts in meditation at will in his life, and will never be able to do so. He's had his panties in a twist ever since I posted my tiny troll, buried (at the time) in a larger post about other things. I honestly don't think he even considered it bashing Buddhism or bashing Buddhists. He was thinking *exactly* the same way Judy does, Heh...this photo gives me a way to 'get' Barry, and hopefully push his buttons the way he pushed mine. So don't be either a pussy (about a photo you arguably should have run into long before he posted it) or a pushover for the distractions that Judy is trying to throw your way. Nabby's post wasn't offensive because of the content (which was freely available elsewhere), or even because he used it to put down 350 million Buddhists. It was offensive because he's so fuckin' out of it that he feels it's his RIGHT to post a photo and an insinuation like the one he posted if it helps him to get Barry. Judy feels exactly the same way. As she recently stated, she feels that his over 500 putdowns of Buddhists and Buddhism are merely jocular, and that *they don't go far enough*. According to Judy, Vaj and I deserve much more bashing than this. It's not about the photo. It's about the level of vindictive craziness that feels that doing this is acceptable, or even sane. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fat, old drama queens and their double standards  Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could
[FairfieldLife] Re: Melancholia, the movie
..Van Triers best so far.. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages/295192?threaded=1m\ =evar=1tidx=1 end of the world? in the movies only http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=C3WqpYZq6NU#t=4\ 4s but just in case [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDZpOrdRHdUfeature=player_embedded --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 03/28/2012 02:50 PM, Susan wrote: Barry or Bhairi, Did you see the movie Melancholia? Whew. SO heavy. I saw netlfixed it. Amazing images and fabulous cast, but I found it disjointed (the wedding vs the time after). And incredibly intense. Both of us saw it last fall and reviewed it here. I watched it on Vudu when it was still in theaters. I really liked the film and thought it was Van Triers best so far.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Is Nabby German? I thought he lived in Scandinavia. Well Zieg Heil to you old buddy! Do you have Germanic blood in your veins Rick, I thought it was Irish !? Anayway, Sieg Heil to you too, Mensch ! :-) I'm English, Irish, and Scottish. My people defeat your people whenever you start a world war. And what would you fellows do, throw pints, skirts and bagpipes at us ? :-) That was our strategy, but then our friends the Americans came across the pond with more serious weapons.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Melancholia, the movie
On 03/29/2012 11:03 AM, merudanda wrote: ..Van Triers best so far.. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages/295192?threaded=1m\ =evar=1tidx=1 end of the world? in the movies only http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=C3WqpYZq6NU#t=4\ 4s but just in case [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDZpOrdRHdUfeature=player_embedded You can trim a YouTube link at the feature. They also have been providing shortened links using YouTu.be but only videos posted the last few months. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 03/28/2012 02:50 PM, Susan wrote: Barry or Bhairi, Did you see the movie Melancholia? Whew. SO heavy. I saw netlfixed it. Amazing images and fabulous cast, but I found it disjointed (the wedding vs the time after). And incredibly intense. Both of us saw it last fall and reviewed it here. I watched it on Vudu when it was still in theaters. I really liked the film and thought it was Van Triers best so far.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Judy Stein the FOX News of FFL?
On 03/29/2012 10:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote: The realization just struck me that this is very possibly an accurate analogy. You can tell as they're being interviewed that FOX News producers and presenters really don't KNOW that they are biased, and that they slant the news the way they see it, often at the expense of the facts of the situation. They really believe that they *are* Fair And Balanced. So does Judy Stein. She presents her version of the news every day here on Fairfield Life, often presented in a written tone of voice that presents it as absolute fact, not color commentary. As does FOX News. When called on mistakes, misstatements, and actual slander, just like FOX News she always doubles down, rather than man up and admit that she was wrong. When asked to describe her impact on her readers, she always portrays herself as having won. So does Rupert Murdoch's FOX News. I'm thinkin' they're twins separated at birth. What think you? I think many here read Judy as often as they watch FOX News. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Melancholia, the movie
Who rides so late through the wind and night? You raise me up, so I can stand on meru-mountains; You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas; I am strong, when I am on your shoulders; You raise me up... To more than I can be. HERE YOU SEE: http://tinyurl.com/72qj9jo http://tinyurl.com/72qj9jo http://tinyurl.com/88tcvc6 http://tinyurl.com/88tcvc6 http://tinyurl.com/y8eydt3 http://tinyurl.com/y8eydt3 Bid me be silent, bid me not speak, Secrecy is a duty to me: Could reveal my heart complete, But Fate doesn't wish it to be. In due season, the sun's bright path Drives the night away, the light must shine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL3YHCuNNpI http://tinyurl.com/7zyhlll --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 03/29/2012 11:03 AM, merudanda wrote: ..Van Triers best so far.. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages/295192?threaded=1m\ \ =evar=1tidx=1 end of the world? in the movies only http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=C3WqpYZq6NU#t=4\ \ 4s but just in case [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDZpOrdRHdUfeature=player_embedded You can trim a YouTube link at the feature. They also have been providing shortened links using YouTu.be but only videos posted the last few months. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 03/28/2012 02:50 PM, Susan wrote: Barry or Bhairi, Did you see the movie Melancholia? Whew. SO heavy. I saw netlfixed it. Amazing images and fabulous cast, but I found it disjointed (the wedding vs the time after). And incredibly intense. Both of us saw it last fall and reviewed it here. I watched it on Vudu when it was still in theaters. I really liked the film and thought it was Van Triers best so far.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend of The Turq makes a run for samadhi
Barry, you have absolutely no clue what I get or don't get. You aren't astute enough or know how to read me at all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. I guess Curtis just jumped the gun a little and didn't realize you were unaware of that post before he was. Curtis was commenting on the fact that over the many years that Nablus has been Buddhist bashing on this forum, we haven't heard a single word about it from Judy. And we wouldn't have this time unless Curtis had prodded her. It's *OK* in Judy's book for Nabby (and Jim, who used to do the same thing) to bash Buddhists, thinking that doing so will bother Vaj or I. She has established a long, long, many-year history of not feeling that this is out of place. Somehow it's only criticism of TMers that she feels is evil. Curtis was pointing out her hypocrisy. As usual, you didn't get it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You got it Barry. That tousle headed rapscallion Nabbie barely made a blip on the outrage meter with his using a burning human being as a putdown of your and a whole religion which, of course, you rightly notice is a bit of a trend. (constantly) Note that my prediction that Curtis would not correct Barry's lie about *Curtis's own post*--which had not a thing to do with Buddhism--was 100 percent accurate. snip How many posts were focused on a Yo mamma parody of Oprah? One from me, until Curtis attempted disingenuously to defend it. The rest of my posts were focused on that defense. Did it get a this is offensive, please take it down? Nope it got the full monte of outrage. The original got *one single post* from me. And no, I didn't ask that it be taken down. It wasn't as offensive as Nabby's post; it didn't feature a ghastly photo of a human being dying in agony for a cause he believed in soley for the purpose of a cheap shot at Barry. That Curtis attempts to draw some kind of equivalence here is just more evidence of his hypocrisy and disingenuity. Any twist of phrase from you like a bit off gets both barrels. The only reason Barry got more than one post on his a bit off was his vicious dissing of Ann for daring to object to the phrase. Barry and Curtis are out of control. Judy, out of control is just scratching the surface of what is going on here. Curtis and Barry are having an orgiastic climax at the moment. I am discovering that there are no limits here for them. They actually feed, thrive and grow more monstrous on other people's, normal human being's, outrage and sense of violation of what they are putting out here. I am not sure what the answer is; push against it or ignore it? But whatever posters choose to do, statements made and behavior exhibited by Curtis and Barry are indicative of something seriously wrong with them. It is not about burning men, inappropriate posts or past perceived wrongs. It is more about spewing vitriol because it gives them some sort of perverted rush to watch otherwise reasonable people react.They have an addiction to reaction, but only violent, shocked, negative, outraged ones. I hate to put words out that are remotely aimed in their direction because this kind of malevolent eye starts to slowly turn my way, unblinking and full of hatred - for me and for life. It is about as horrendous as I have ever witnessed. They have convinced themselves that as a team, they're invincible. But all they're doing is helping each other reveal their own weaknesses. It is invulnerability which is a result of lack of feeling. A fucking burning human being. Oh, that little scamp! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could it be that Nabby's jocular posts, such as the recent one, are merely poking fun at Vaj, I, and 350 million Buddhists in the world, whereas our posts about TM and TMers are vicious attacks and insults? Does anyone detect a double standard here? Perhaps, since she will be unable to find any posts in which she has criticized Nabby or Jim for any of their jocular posts ragging on Buddhism and Tibet, she could find a few posts of mine and Vaj's that she feels are vicious attacks and repost them. I look forward to seeing them,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue
They could unlcog thier noses in your general direction From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Nabby Issue --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Is Nabby German? I thought he lived in Scandinavia. Well Zieg Heil to you old buddy! Do you have Germanic blood in your veins Rick, I thought it was Irish !? Anayway, Sieg Heil to you too, Mensch ! :-) I'm English, Irish, and Scottish. My people defeat your people whenever you start a world war. And what would you fellows do, throw pints, skirts and bagpipes at us ? :-) That was our strategy, but then our friends the Americans came across the pond with more serious weapons.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
Beware, Ann. The same Pile on, pile on...gotta support my favorites mentality that brought down Robin, Ravi, and Jim on this forum might work the same way on Judy. Pander to a personality-disordered person's disorder, and you might just push them over the edge. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You got it Barry. That tousle headed rapscallion Nabbie barely made a blip on the outrage meter with his using a burning human being as a putdown of your and a whole religion which, of course, you rightly notice is a bit of a trend. (constantly) Note that my prediction that Curtis would not correct Barry's lie about *Curtis's own post*--which had not a thing to do with Buddhism--was 100 percent accurate. snip How many posts were focused on a Yo mamma parody of Oprah? One from me, until Curtis attempted disingenuously to defend it. The rest of my posts were focused on that defense. Did it get a this is offensive, please take it down? Nope it got the full monte of outrage. The original got *one single post* from me. And no, I didn't ask that it be taken down. It wasn't as offensive as Nabby's post; it didn't feature a ghastly photo of a human being dying in agony for a cause he believed in soley for the purpose of a cheap shot at Barry. That Curtis attempts to draw some kind of equivalence here is just more evidence of his hypocrisy and disingenuity. Any twist of phrase from you like a bit off gets both barrels. The only reason Barry got more than one post on his a bit off was his vicious dissing of Ann for daring to object to the phrase. Barry and Curtis are out of control. Judy, out of control is just scratching the surface of what is going on here. Curtis and Barry are having an orgiastic climax at the moment. I am discovering that there are no limits here for them. They actually feed, thrive and grow more monstrous on other people's, normal human being's, outrage and sense of violation of what they are putting out here. I am not sure what the answer is; push against it or ignore it? But whatever posters choose to do, statements made and behavior exhibited by Curtis and Barry are indicative of something seriously wrong with them. It is not about burning men, inappropriate posts or past perceived wrongs. It is more about spewing vitriol because it gives them some sort of perverted rush to watch otherwise reasonable people react.They have an addiction to reaction, but only violent, shocked, negative, outraged ones. I hate to put words out that are remotely aimed in their direction because this kind of malevolent eye starts to slowly turn my way, unblinking and full of hatred - for me and for life. It is about as horrendous as I have ever witnessed. They have convinced themselves that as a team, they're invincible. But all they're doing is helping each other reveal their own weaknesses. It is invulnerability which is a result of lack of feeling. A fucking burning human being. Oh, that little scamp! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could it be that Nabby's jocular posts, such as the recent one, are merely poking fun at Vaj, I, and 350 million Buddhists in the world, whereas our posts about TM and TMers are vicious attacks and insults?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
Yeah. Barry-warry needs support too! Oh Susan, where art thou?! : ) Just kidding. Barry does need some stroking and pampering to help him feel he is on top. Let me give it to you. I am sure Judy will not mind if I give you a little love, right dear? O yeahh. Oh yeah. There. Easy orgasm filled sentence. Maybe Robin and Ravi, and of course, Bob (and his lovely wife) will come to rescue the dames with personality disorders! Holland boy has his finger in the dike, and to relieve some pressure, let the flood gates open! Nabby was red hot with his post and bridal Barry has a Turkish crown for Cowboy Curtis. Let's double up these standards! Sorry about the rant. I felt compelled because Venus is transiting Krittika, and there is something about the retrograde Mercury in debilitation that gave me the URGE to type this today. Stay sweet, keep your meat clean, boys. (Leave my girls alone.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Beware, Ann. The same Pile on, pile on...gotta support my favorites mentality that brought down Robin, Ravi, and Jim on this forum might work the same way on Judy. Pander to a personality-disordered person's disorder, and you might just push them over the edge. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You got it Barry. That tousle headed rapscallion Nabbie barely made a blip on the outrage meter with his using a burning human being as a putdown of your and a whole religion which, of course, you rightly notice is a bit of a trend. (constantly) Note that my prediction that Curtis would not correct Barry's lie about *Curtis's own post*--which had not a thing to do with Buddhism--was 100 percent accurate. snip How many posts were focused on a Yo mamma parody of Oprah? One from me, until Curtis attempted disingenuously to defend it. The rest of my posts were focused on that defense. Did it get a this is offensive, please take it down? Nope it got the full monte of outrage. The original got *one single post* from me. And no, I didn't ask that it be taken down. It wasn't as offensive as Nabby's post; it didn't feature a ghastly photo of a human being dying in agony for a cause he believed in soley for the purpose of a cheap shot at Barry. That Curtis attempts to draw some kind of equivalence here is just more evidence of his hypocrisy and disingenuity. Any twist of phrase from you like a bit off gets both barrels. The only reason Barry got more than one post on his a bit off was his vicious dissing of Ann for daring to object to the phrase. Barry and Curtis are out of control. Judy, out of control is just scratching the surface of what is going on here. Curtis and Barry are having an orgiastic climax at the moment. I am discovering that there are no limits here for them. They actually feed, thrive and grow more monstrous on other people's, normal human being's, outrage and sense of violation of what they are putting out here. I am not sure what the answer is; push against it or ignore it? But whatever posters choose to do, statements made and behavior exhibited by Curtis and Barry are indicative of something seriously wrong with them. It is not about burning men, inappropriate posts or past perceived wrongs. It is more about spewing vitriol because it gives them some sort of perverted rush to watch otherwise reasonable people react.They have an addiction to reaction, but only violent, shocked, negative, outraged ones. I hate to put words out that are remotely aimed in their direction because this kind of malevolent eye starts to slowly turn my way, unblinking and full of hatred - for me and for life. It is about as horrendous as I have ever witnessed. They have convinced themselves that as a team, they're invincible. But all they're doing is helping each other reveal their own weaknesses. It is invulnerability which is a result of lack of feeling. A fucking burning human being. Oh, that little scamp! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip I don't care where or how often the photo was posted - I find it horrific, period.  I looked at it out of context and I'm glad it's deleted.  It hurts to look at it. But, remember, I'm nowhere near where Xeno is staying in my left brain so to speak, which is how his text comes across on his reaction to the photo.  Triggers?  Excuse me?  We are talking about one of our own species committing suicide in front of us.  It's painful to see. It has happened again just recently (I am not posting the photo). NEW DELHI â A Tibetan exile who set himself on fire [March 26, 2012] in India to protest a visit by China's president died Wednesday, while hundreds of other activists were being detained. Jamphel Yeshi, 27, set himself alight Monday at a demonstration in New Delhi. He ran screaming past other protesters and the media before falling to the ground, his clothing partly disintegrated and nearly his entire body covered in burns. Martyr Jamphel Yeshi's sacrifice will be written in golden letters in the annals of our freedom struggle, said Dhondup Lhadar, an activist with the Tibetan Youth Congress. He will live on to inspire and encourage the future generations of Tibetans. Self immolation never seems to serve the purpose that its practitioners seem to think it will accomplish. While Judy felt that Nabby's post trivialised the death of that previously misguided Tibetan I think the behaviour of these people trivialises their own lives. Rather than making people think deeply about the situation they are trying to underline with their bold display, they usually just create a shock in the nervous systems of those that manage to hear about it, see images of it, etc. Somewhere inside the ego says 'That could be me', and with that, whatever message was to be conveyed by the incendiary performance gets lost in an experience of fear generated in the observers as they feel their own mortality. Except as an afterthought, this does not inspire people, it weakens them by undermining their comfort zone rather than inspiring them to pursue their goal, and in the process eliminates one protester. It is not like a courageous march in the face of an enemy attempting to bring the enemy down, it is sacrificing oneself needlessly which is a benefit to the enemy. Barry, from a distance, you must realize how angry you sound.  Do you ever try read your posts with any objectivity?  Go have yourself a good cry..you'll feel better and less paranoid.  In the year I have been on this forum, Barry's style has been pretty consistent. I do not experience his writing as angry, it is too automatic for that. I sense Judy gets angry, but I also feel she has a wider range of intellectual interests than Barry. She shows a lot more passion than Barry. Barry is far more calculating, I do not think he is being led on by his emotions to the extent that you are implying. On forums as elsewhere, alliances form, dissolve, depending on what we like or dislike, or are interested in at the moment. For example Vaj, Barry, Curtis, which some here equate with the godhead of evil, are three very distinct personalities. Curtis is the most down to earth from what I can tell, and the most interactive of the three. Vaj is kind of secretive, so I find it hard to tell what he is about. And Barry is a kind of mystery too, but I see him playing the cat to the mouse on the forum, but he actually does not seem interested in the kill, just in pushing the button and observing the result. Now Judy is interested in the kill when her passion is up but sometimes I think her arguments are more about syntax than the content. But I do not want to over-generalize. If we are heated up by this photo that Nabby posted, maybe we can take a moment of silence in the wake of those unfortunate departed. The silence is not for them, or even in memory of them - they are gone - the silence is for us, to re-establish who we are in relation to a world that sometimes changes more and in more ways than we would prefer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
Actually Barry, you are my favorite. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Beware, Ann. The same Pile on, pile on...gotta support my favorites mentality that brought down Robin, Ravi, and Jim on this forum might work the same way on Judy. Pander to a personality-disordered person's disorder, and you might just push them over the edge. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You got it Barry. That tousle headed rapscallion Nabbie barely made a blip on the outrage meter with his using a burning human being as a putdown of your and a whole religion which, of course, you rightly notice is a bit of a trend. (constantly) Note that my prediction that Curtis would not correct Barry's lie about *Curtis's own post*--which had not a thing to do with Buddhism--was 100 percent accurate. snip How many posts were focused on a Yo mamma parody of Oprah? One from me, until Curtis attempted disingenuously to defend it. The rest of my posts were focused on that defense. Did it get a this is offensive, please take it down? Nope it got the full monte of outrage. The original got *one single post* from me. And no, I didn't ask that it be taken down. It wasn't as offensive as Nabby's post; it didn't feature a ghastly photo of a human being dying in agony for a cause he believed in soley for the purpose of a cheap shot at Barry. That Curtis attempts to draw some kind of equivalence here is just more evidence of his hypocrisy and disingenuity. Any twist of phrase from you like a bit off gets both barrels. The only reason Barry got more than one post on his a bit off was his vicious dissing of Ann for daring to object to the phrase. Barry and Curtis are out of control. Judy, out of control is just scratching the surface of what is going on here. Curtis and Barry are having an orgiastic climax at the moment. I am discovering that there are no limits here for them. They actually feed, thrive and grow more monstrous on other people's, normal human being's, outrage and sense of violation of what they are putting out here. I am not sure what the answer is; push against it or ignore it? But whatever posters choose to do, statements made and behavior exhibited by Curtis and Barry are indicative of something seriously wrong with them. It is not about burning men, inappropriate posts or past perceived wrongs. It is more about spewing vitriol because it gives them some sort of perverted rush to watch otherwise reasonable people react.They have an addiction to reaction, but only violent, shocked, negative, outraged ones. I hate to put words out that are remotely aimed in their direction because this kind of malevolent eye starts to slowly turn my way, unblinking and full of hatred - for me and for life. It is about as horrendous as I have ever witnessed. They have convinced themselves that as a team, they're invincible. But all they're doing is helping each other reveal their own weaknesses. It is invulnerability which is a result of lack of feeling. A fucking burning human being. Oh, that little scamp! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me that if Judy Stein were as fair and balanced as she claims to be on this forum, she would be able to produce at least one post (other than the recent one, which can arguably be attributed to Curtis shaming her into making it) in which she criticized either Nabby or Jim for their religion-bashing. Nabby has made over 500 posts bashing either Buddhists, Buddhism, Tibet, Tibetans, or the Dalai Lama (or, as he prefers to spell it, the Dolly Lama) over the years at FFL. Jim Flanegin made over 200 posts bashing the same subjects. Surely, given her oh-so-evolved sensibilities about fairness, she can come up with a few posts she's made suggesting that this might be a little off. If she'd commented on even 1% of them, that would be seven posts that she'd be able to find and repost here, wouldn't it? IF, that is, any such posts were ever made. I think we all know that none ever were. Could this be because Nabby's posts are mostly jocular Buddhist-bashing aimed at Barry and Vaj? Or because Barry and Vaj are the most vicious, intemperate, and dishonest bashers of TMers on the forum and in Judy's view (as she just stated) Nabby's posts don't really give them the bashing they truly deserve? ( Perhaps Judy would like to give us that bashing herself. I for one would like to read it. :-) Or could
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
snip If we are heated up by this photo that Nabby posted, maybe we can take a moment of silence in the wake of those unfortunate departed. The silence is not for them, or even in memory of them - they are gone - the silence is for us, to re-establish who we are in relation to a world that sometimes changes more and in more ways than we would prefer. Xeno, yes, we can do that...for me, the silence is for them and for us - although technically yes, they are gone. Their memory remains with those that knew them. I agree with much that you said on that topic. I do think that often, these types of decisions on a personal level have to do equally (at least) with desperation within the individual as well as perhaps reflecting a belief system brainwashing. And then, the religious org capitalizes on the shock factor and manipulates it into a message. The decision to commit suicide is a desperate one, always, in my current frame of reference. I do perceive much of Barry's writing as angry when he goes on the offensive. He uses numerous terms that denigrate women on a regular basis and *initiates* many posts that do nothing but put Judy or others down and/or include a pot shot that comes out of left field. Not all of them, but today, it seemed like he was on a negative roll, so it occurred to me that he was having a bad day and needed to acknowledge that within himself. Anger is usually just the external manifestation of a deeper feeling (dare I use that word)/belief. I don't always personalize it, but I do sometimes in the context of my personal experience on this planet. I think Judy's comments are more often about the content and less often about the syntax. I do absolutely see Barry, Vaj, and Curtis as distinct personalities - not to say that there aren't similarities in their perspectives that come across on the text of FFL. But, they are all the same gender after all, and I firmly believe in the idea that gender makes a difference in perception and perspective and delivery and etc. for 99.9% of the human population. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip I don't care where or how often the photo was posted - I find it horrific, period.  I looked at it out of context and I'm glad it's deleted.  It hurts to look at it. But, remember, I'm nowhere near where Xeno is staying in my left brain so to speak, which is how his text comes across on his reaction to the photo.  Triggers?  Excuse me?  We are talking about one of our own species committing suicide in front of us.  It's painful to see. It has happened again just recently (I am not posting the photo). NEW DELHI †A Tibetan exile who set himself on fire [March 26, 2012] in India to protest a visit by China's president died Wednesday, while hundreds of other activists were being detained. Jamphel Yeshi, 27, set himself alight Monday at a demonstration in New Delhi. He ran screaming past other protesters and the media before falling to the ground, his clothing partly disintegrated and nearly his entire body covered in burns. Martyr Jamphel Yeshi's sacrifice will be written in golden letters in the annals of our freedom struggle, said Dhondup Lhadar, an activist with the Tibetan Youth Congress. He will live on to inspire and encourage the future generations of Tibetans. Self immolation never seems to serve the purpose that its practitioners seem to think it will accomplish. While Judy felt that Nabby's post trivialised the death of that previously misguided Tibetan I think the behaviour of these people trivialises their own lives. Rather than making people think deeply about the situation they are trying to underline with their bold display, they usually just create a shock in the nervous systems of those that manage to hear about it, see images of it, etc. Somewhere inside the ego says 'That could be me', and with that, whatever message was to be conveyed by the incendiary performance gets lost in an experience of fear generated in the observers as they feel their own mortality. Except as an afterthought, this does not inspire people, it weakens them by undermining their comfort zone rather than inspiring them to pursue their goal, and in the process eliminates one protester. It is not like a courageous march in the face of an enemy attempting to bring the enemy down, it is sacrificing oneself needlessly which is a benefit to the enemy. Barry, from a distance, you must realize how angry you sound.  Do you ever try read your posts with any objectivity?  Go have yourself a good cry..you'll feel better and less paranoid.  In the year I have been on this forum, Barry's style has been
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip If we are heated up by this photo that Nabby posted, maybe we can take a moment of silence in the wake of those unfortunate departed. The silence is not for them, or even in memory of them - they are gone - the silence is for us, to re-establish who we are in relation to a world that sometimes changes more and in more ways than we would prefer. Xeno, yes, we can do that...for me, the silence is for them and for us  - although technically yes, they are gone.  Their memory remains with those that knew them.  I agree with much that you said on that topic.  I do think that often, these types of decisions on a personal level have to do equally (at least) with desperation within the individual as well as perhaps reflecting a belief system brainwashing.  And then, the religious org capitalizes on the shock factor and manipulates it into a message.  The decision to commit suicide is a desperate one, always, in my current frame of reference. I do perceive much of Barry's writing as angry when he goes on the offensive.  He uses numerous terms that denigrate women on a regular basis and *initiates* many posts that do nothing but put Judy or others down and/or include a pot shot that comes out of left field.  Not all of them, but today, it seemed like he was on a negative roll, so it occurred to me that he was having a bad day and needed to acknowledge that within himself.  Anger is usually just the external manifestation of a deeper feeling (dare I use that word)/belief.  I don't always personalize it, but I do sometimes in the context of my personal experience on this planet.  I think Judy's comments are more often about the content and less often about the syntax. I do absolutely see Barry, Vaj, and Curtis as distinct personalities - not to say that there aren't similarities in their perspectives that come across on the text of FFL.  But, they are all the same gender after all, and I firmly believe in the idea that gender makes a difference in perception and perspective and delivery and etc. for 99.9% of the human population.  That gender difference is pretty wide spread in culture. Looking back on my life, I get the feeling that men want women in their lives but do not want to be inconvenienced by that, but it is always turns out more complicated than the way we men generally think will happen. I think a lot of it is driven by a few simple chemicals like testosterone, you alter those levels and vast differences of experience occur. I sometimes wonder if Curtis and Barry bailed out of the spiritual trip a bit too early. The spiritual trip is a fraud. At a certain point, things stop seeming to work, and the experiences one had been led to expect do not come. But this is not the fraud. The experience that it is a fraud comes if the spiritual trip succeeds and then you find out it is the ultimate fraud that you were taken in by. But this does not embitter because it is the coolest joke to ever to have been played by. But if you bail out too early, dissatisfied and seemingly cursed by the failure, maybe it results in a lot of disgruntlement with spiritual stuff. I have been disillusioned many times, but I stuck with it. Even if you get the joke there is a lot of work to do. A forum is really interesting, we talk about other people in the third person as if they are out of earshot, but they get to read it all. Now that Emily, she... From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip I don't care where or how often the photo was posted - I find it horrific, period. àI looked at it out of context and I'm glad it's deleted. àIt hurts to look at it. But, remember, I'm nowhere near where Xeno is staying in my left brain so to speak, which is how his text comes across on his reaction to the photo. àTriggers? àExcuse me? àWe are talking about one of our own species committing suicide in front of us. àIt's painful to see. It has happened again just recently (I am not posting the photo). NEW DELHI â⬠A Tibetan exile who set himself on fire [March 26, 2012] in India to protest a visit by China's president died Wednesday, while hundreds of other activists were being detained. Jamphel Yeshi, 27, set himself alight Monday at a demonstration in New Delhi. He ran screaming past other protesters and the media before falling to the ground, his clothing partly disintegrated and nearly his entire body covered in burns. Martyr Jamphel Yeshi's sacrifice will be written in golden letters in the annals of our freedom
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fat, old drama queens and their double standards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip It has happened again just recently (I am not posting the photo). NEW DELHI â A Tibetan exile who set himself on fire [March 26, 2012] in India to protest a visit by China's president died Wednesday, while hundreds of other activists were being detained. I believe this is the same man who was in Nabby's photo, no? snip Self immolation never seems to serve the purpose that its practitioners seem to think it will accomplish. While Judy felt that Nabby's post trivialised the death of that previously misguided Tibetan I think the behaviour of these people trivialises their own lives. FWIW, I agree completely. However, while self-immolators may be trivializing their own lives in our eyes, in their own eyes they're making the ultimate sacrifice to benefit their cause. That's a genuinely heroic motivation on the part of the individual that I do not think deserves to be trivialized. Deploring the act and respecting its motivation are not mutually exclusive.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Judy Stein the FOX News of FFL?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Barry, stop digging. Everyone here recognizes the lies you're telling, including four in this post. Don't you put *any* value on your own credibility? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: The realization just struck me that this is very possibly an accurate analogy. You can tell as they're being interviewed that FOX News producers and presenters really don't KNOW that they are biased, and that they slant the news the way they see it, often at the expense of the facts of the situation. They really believe that they *are* Fair And Balanced. So does Judy Stein. So does Barry Wright. Here is the thing, Judy is not national news whose job is to objectively and in an unbiased way relate the facts of a situation. National news is a conglomerate of individuals (writers, journalists, camera people, audio technicians) whose job it is to give the facts on a current event. This is broadcast to perhaps millions of people. As much as you would like to fantasize that millions are hanging on your every word, Barry, it just isn't the case. This is a small and insignificant forum for exchanging ideas. Judy has no responsibility, other than to herself, to present things as she sees them. If they end up being skewed by her subjectivity then she can join the rest of us here. She presents her version of the news every day here on Fairfield Life, often presented in a written tone of voice that presents it as absolute fact, not color commentary. This is your perception. Don't speak for the rest of us. As does FOX News. When called on mistakes, misstatements, and actual slander, just like FOX News she always doubles down, rather than man up and admit that she was wrong. I don't blame her for not wanting to man up as she appears to be very much a woman. When asked to describe her impact on her readers, she always portrays herself as having won. So does Rupert Murdoch's FOX News. Show me this. Show me where she is jumping up and down congratulating herself that she has put another one over on all of us (linguistically speaking of course). I say this is your subjective experience but certainly not absolute truth or even an experience a majority of the readers here feel. I think Judy loves to play with words, concepts and she certainly seems to love exposing who she believes is a fool, or deceitful. I will admit she does exude a sort of exuberance when she has hit some nail on the head. I'm thinkin' they're twins separated at birth. What think you? That's what I think.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Shakespeare Sounded
...and riding grateful with Bhairitu trough night and wind... Sorry if the pal looks like our Turquoise-abc- no pun intended [:D] The first English words spoken in Virginia were pronounced with a 17th-century London accent according to:Shakespearean accent and the legend of its preservation in remote East Coast communities. http://podcast.history.org/2011/01/17/new-world-english/ http://tinyurl.com/7nymcva The first English words spoken in Virginia were pronounced with a 1607 London accent. Seventeenth-century English is called early modern English, and it's the accent that would have been shared by Shakespeare and Queen Elizabeth's court. ..divergence between literal understanding and contextualized.. The Book of Revelation: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation http://tinyurl.com/hz6s6 Out damn spot, out I say-The lily-livered, white-livered bard lives --or Good night, sweet prince, sweet for the sweet .. ...and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=8986 http://tinyurl.com/y3wdmgo ..come on dude..let's go bowling.. And merudanda, my merudanda, can't you hear What the Erlking's whispering in your ear?' `Peace, peace, my child, you're listening To those dry ashes rustling in the wind.' [:D] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://soundcloud.com/evie-jeffreys Spellbinding.one fell swoop often turns into on swell foop. Isn't it almost the same discussion some years back on the use of period tuning and instruments (gut strings, valveless horns,Hammerklavier. lower concert pitch, les vibrato, etc) Now we can almost not listen to the early music without that origional-sound. Hope this might bring his great works into (increased) relevance,again. ..who thought the Bard's voice resembled Olivier's, Branaugh's, Stewarts, etc. anyway OTOH doesn't Shakespeare's Accent also illustrates how literal interpretation of text - see biblical texts ( about the divergence between literal understanding and contextualized understand, see Wikpedia's entry on The Book of Revelation: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation-) are actually more misleading than contextualized interpretations,resulting in inferior understanding, with consequent judgments, interpretations and frameworks-of-understanding deeply distorted by the dictum: Every text without a context is a pretext.?-seems to happen to MMY pretextaudio-video-library collected by Jerry Jarvis, already in our time [:D] now BTW Isn't American English of area in the US States that was first colonized, see Pennsylvania, New Jersey or the Barrier Islands off the Carolina's, often a snapshot of the British accent at the time ?The first English words spoken in Virginia were pronounced with a 17th-century London accent according to: Shakespearian accent and the legend of its preservation in remote East Coast communities. http://podcast.history.org/2011/01/17/new-world-english/ Sorry if the pal looks like our Turquoise-abc- no pun intended [:D] ...My salad days, / When I was green in judgment, cold in blood... Next week or -and tomorrow and tomorrow and..: how Shakespeare's plays weren't written by Shakespeare (again) Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,... [:D] ... Anything to humour our 'dear' Transatlantic friends, eh? Anonymous rhythm and the sonorous tones, you know, tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty FFL pace from day to day -Its the tones right?How so very musical, and depth of vision --just astounding. How about then next:Some people are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.quoted in H(B)ollywoods movies ? [:D] Out damn spot, out I say-The lily-livered, white-livered bard lives --or Good night, sweet prince, sweet for the sweet .. ...and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=8986 ..come on dude..let's go bowling.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Scholars reconstruct the pronunciation of Shakespeare with, they feel, 90%-95% accuracy. Story and some samples. http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2012/03/24/149160526/shakespeares-acc\ \ ent-how-did-the-bard-really-sound
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