[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Your thread here has descended to being personalized slurs between yourselves. Take your personal stuff this way offline between you. They aren't listening Buck. What do you expect given the history here? They honestly believe that thinking of new ways to slag people off is being creative. It's an obsession I tell you. Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people Thanks in advance, -JaiGuruYou In short: Be a good citizen — Treat others with respect and report content that violates our Guidelines. Stay on topic — Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly. Follow the law — We'll take appropriate action if we find you breaking the law. Here's how you can get the most out of Groups: Share what you know. Find the groups that are right for you. Chances are, someone can benefit from what you have to contribute. Be courteous. Everyone wants to be treated with respect, and showing respect to others makes the community better for all members. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : salyavin wrote: I thought it inadvertently revealed who Judy is. Imagine the thought process that remembered a post from long ago that she thought might be embarrassing to two people, searching for it, joining the group and hoping it does the job she never managed to do herself. Who does that? Does it sound like a reasonable way to spend the day? And what did she put in the reason for joining box on the site; I've got some muck to rake? I'm embarrassed on her behalf. OK, when I responded to this earlier, I couldn't find the FFL2 post that had reallly inspired my post with t3rinity's 2008 email, so I didn't mention it. Now I've found it. Here it is, if you have the guts to look: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FFL-2/conversations/messages/201 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FFL-2/conversations/messages/201 But I bet you don't. It's a link to a crazy essay Robin Carlsen wrote more than 30 years ago when he was in the throes of his purported Unity consciousness experience--and by his own estimation today, nutty as a bedbug. He repudiated the essay when t3rinity posted it a couple of years ago on FFL in order to embarrass him. Note that this time, t3rinity doesn't bother to date the essay nor point out that Robin has disavowed it, leaving the entirely false impression that it represents Robin's current thinking. t3rinity posted it with the intention of drawing me in to defend Robin, but I decided to post t3rinity's 2008 email instead. That's called Turnabout is fair play. Or What goes around, comes around. If you had any integrity, you'd now be embarrassed on t3rinity's behalf instead.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The scammy TM Org's worthlessness revealed by one question
Well, folks who are TM'ers in a facilitating organized group [movement] could certainly teach a good enough meditation still that was left from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to get people going practically in an inner spiritual life. Science seems to indicate that the practice left by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is effective as a meditative practice. “What is Transcendental Meditation? Transcendental Meditation [can be] a simple, natural, and effortless technique practiced 20 minutes twice a day, while sitting comfortably with the eyes closed. It is easy to learn and enjoyable to practice and is not a religion, philosophy or lifestyle.” Do you practice a transcending meditation? -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What does all the recent attention given to Pluto spiritually do to ones nervous system? Pretty [expletive deleted] silly question, eh? Unless you're a TM person. Proof? Ask ANY TM leader to answer it? We don't get to know get a trustable answer to that question, because: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is dead, and not one person in the movement would DARE answer that question and at the same time demand that we give that answer the least authority compared to how much respect an answer from a still living Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would garner. See? We have NO GURU. Our Guru died. No one now speaks for the Absolute. Girish is not our guru. Bev and Hag are not gurus. The King for [expletive deleted] sure ain't anyone's guru. Are they? ARE THEY? Will you dare tell me the movement now has a new guru? I dare you. THERE IS NO ONE NOW, and, THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER GURU FOR US. We cannot get an enlightened answer for the above sample question that even 1% of those in the movement would believe. There would be pure [expletive] answers given with tons of wiggle room and hemming and hawing, but if Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was in the room, all would turn to him for the REAL answer. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would have answered that question with GREAT INTENSITY, because he sponsored and supported astrology, and he MADE MONEY because his followers were instructed that astrology-out-of-India, Jyotish, was not merely better than Western astrology, but, rather, it was SACRED RITUAL, and we have to conduct jyotish ceremonies conducted by the movement to get special attention from the gods, and is very expensive, but of course. You're [expletive deleted] right Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would answer that question if someone in a teacher training course asked it. I know, because I was on such courses, and suchlike questions were very seriously entertained. I could pony up a one hour lecture that would answer that question -- all [expletive deleted], but it'd be great. Try to ask this question to anyone in the movement. Step aside as the [x] spews. Push back and demand a definitive answer from someone higher up, and watch yourself get your badge pulled for being a trouble maker. AND DON'T YOU EVEN ASK FOR GIRISH TO TELL US. He's never going to meet with us, because we would toss cream pies in his false-flag-Potemkin-Village face which will never speak wisdom or cite Vedic verses or giggle us into loving him. He's a corporate raider and that's [expletive deleted] that. Our Guru is dead. The TM movement cannot evolve from this point with any sense of Vedic purity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Ok , yes. That's what I remember now. I think he said that in Fuiggi.
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession.
Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is still
a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system. That
alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY.
I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata,
Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
You could get a helluva conspiracy theory started with that, Mike. :-D On 07/14/2015 09:02 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I had to ask. Found out Obama's momma and several others around him were heavily into it when they lived in Indonesia. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:57 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers Yes, that's what I recall from the tape of those sessions. I heard it several times. On 07/14/2015 08:34 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession. Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system. That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY. I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata, Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Oh, it's aready out there LOL! Ran into it yesterday. It's all over youtube.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
You could get a helluva conspiracy theory started with that, Mike. :-D
On 07/14/2015 09:02 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I had to ask. Found out Obama's momma and several others around him were
heavily into it when they lived in Indonesia.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Yes, that's what I recall from the tape of those sessions. I heard
it several times.
On 07/14/2015 08:34 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession.
Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is
still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous
system. That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY.
I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata,
Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession. Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system. That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY. I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata, Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Yes, that's what I recall from the tape of those sessions. I heard it several times. On 07/14/2015 08:34 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession. Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system. That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY. I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata, Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
I had to ask. Found out Obama's momma and several others around him were
heavily into it when they lived in Indonesia.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Yes, that's what I recall from the tape of those sessions. I heard it
several times.
On 07/14/2015 08:34 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession.
Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is
still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system.
That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY.
I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata,
Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
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[FairfieldLife] Pentaquark Discovered
The investment in the LHC is paying off. There may be other discoveries that will pave new developments in physics. But will it lead to the Unified Field? CERN's Large Hadron Collider has discovered a new class of particle http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/14/8957981/pentaquark-cern-lhc-discovery http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/14/8957981/pentaquark-cern-lhc-discovery CERN's Large Hadron Collider has discovered a new cl... http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/14/8957981/pentaquark-cern-lhc-discovery Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider have announced the discovery of the pentaquark, a class of subatomic particle consisting of four quarks and one antiq... View on www.theverge.com http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/14/8957981/pentaquark-cern-lhc-discovery Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Re a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system: Isn't that TM also? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession. Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system. That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY. I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata, Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : No, definitely a she. But...when Alex had the gall to tap on the brakes a little last week, thinking aloud if a particular post might have intruded on someone's privacy, she comes charging out of the gate calling him a pussy, and a wussy, a coward and an otherwise poor excuse for human being, I thought to myself, gene menetley, is this isn't a candidate for a nagging wife, who is? But, maybe that's what 'ol Bar needs at this stage in his life. I'll let you follow the activities of the love birds. I don't think I'll be able to attend the wedding, however. Please forward my regrets. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, it's sorta sweet over there, Ann. It's as though Barry's taken a wife, and we get to see the honeymoon, all up close and personal. They haven't yet come up with pet names for one another, but I suspect that should be happening soon. NIce. I am happy for them. It is amazing the kind of connections one can make online. Forums are no exception. You just know when the vibe is right and all is groovy. Listen to me, I'm just a tad giddy with the news. Are we sure Sal is a woman? There are many men out there with that name. That's fine my be me though, I'm one of those FB posters who changed their profile picture to all those neat rainbow colors to show my support for same sex marriage so even if Sal is a man I'm all for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I have, so far managed to refrain from looking at FFL2 (except for that first morning Alex said he had set up a new site for the sake of quelling the moaning of the masses). For all I know, they're rehearsing for their next collaborative performance of Much Ado About Nothing. Or, perhaps, they are discussing how to help in ending world hunger or are raising money for the homeless. It's amazing how much positivity and intelligence can be generated when people get together as like-minded individuals. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts - or so they say. Yes, I am sure FFL2 must be a dazzling example of the heights to which individuals can soar when they put their mind to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. Ahem. Didn't you hear our Dear Leader's request to take this tedious BS off list? Don't you people have anything else to talk about? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : No, definitely a she. But...when Alex had the gall to tap on the brakes a little last week, thinking aloud if a particular post might have intruded on someone's privacy, she comes charging out of the gate calling him a pussy, and a wussy, a coward and an otherwise poor excuse for human being, I thought to myself, gene menetley, is this isn't a candidate for a nagging wife, who is? But, maybe that's what 'ol Bar needs at this stage in his life. I'll let you follow the activities of the love birds. I don't think I'll be able to attend the wedding, however. Please forward my regrets. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, it's sorta sweet over there, Ann. It's as though Barry's taken a wife, and we get to see the honeymoon, all up close and personal. They haven't yet come up with pet names for one another, but I suspect that should be happening soon. NIce. I am happy for them. It is amazing the kind of connections one can make online. Forums are no exception. You just know when the vibe is right and all is groovy. Listen to me, I'm just a tad giddy with the news. Are we sure Sal is a woman? There are many men out there with that name. That's fine my be me though, I'm one of those FB posters who changed their profile picture to all those neat rainbow colors to show my support for same sex marriage so even if Sal is a man I'm all for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I have, so far managed to refrain from looking at FFL2 (except for that first morning Alex said he had set up a new site for the sake of quelling the moaning of the masses). For all I know, they're rehearsing for their next collaborative performance of Much Ado About Nothing. Or, perhaps, they are discussing how to help in ending world hunger or are raising money for the homeless. It's amazing how much positivity and intelligence can be generated when people get together as like-minded individuals. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts - or so they say. Yes, I am sure FFL2 must be a dazzling example of the heights to which individuals can soar when they put their mind to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
It occurred to me Edg, that one question that may serve as a reality check, is, do you regret the time you spent in service to, or with, the TMO? I asked this question of sal, but got no response. To my mind it helps to bottom line the whole experience. For me, I have no regrets. There are some things I would have done differently, which may have produced a different outcome for me today, but no, I have no regrets. The development of consciousness outlined by MMY, and described in the Vedic literature, and also described in western texts has become a reality for me in many respects. And one that has developed over 40 years. I mention that to at least discount the element of mood making or power of suggestion that many would ascribe to these experiences. It does perplex me to see so much energy expended by those who find fault with the methodology and teacher they spent considerable time attuning themselves with, or, in many cases may have left decades ago. I am not sure how you really move forward with that mindset. I guess it would surprise me to get a response from you as well, as you seem more suited to just spouting off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 1. It fucking doesn't work. 2. You have to pay about a thousand fucking dollars for it. 3. About 98% of all persons who start TM quit forever within a few months with no results. 4. The TM organization is run like a right-wing-religious cult, but is merely a business taken over by a criminal in India. 5. Your mantra is determined by what age you are when you learn -- no other criteria is used, even though you will be told your mantra is especially selected for you just you and nobody else but you poop-poopy-doop! Some teachers give the same mantra to everyone. Other teachers have a dozen to give out. No logical explanations for this. 6. Most of the science used to sell TM is bogus -- conducted by biased minds intent on tweaking the data. 7. 20 minutes meditating twice a day is a joke to almost anyone in the movement. 4-6 hours a day spent in TMO sanctioned rituals is the accepted norm for those who are serious about using the TM program. 8. Every TM teacher worships the spirits of dead gurus when doing the puja, but you will never hear about the puja being a religious ritual in which the teacher is attempting to enter a quasi-trance state. 9. Rich assholes with castrated psyches, wearing cringe-worthy crowns and robes, expect their asses to be kissed as they pretend they run the movement, but they are silly-ass powerless stooges who think of meditators as fodder for money raising projects. 10. Doug
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentaquark Discovered
If it's small you want, check out the total perspective vortex: The Scale of the Universe 2 http://htwins.net/scale2/ The Scale of the Universe 2 http://htwins.net/scale2/ Zoom from the edge of the universe to the quantum foam of spacetime and learn about everything in between. View on htwins.net http://htwins.net/scale2/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : My guess is that they'll find exotic particles that are smaller than the previous one. But how far can the LHC go? In the meantime, the leading physicists will have a field day in making speculations about what happened at the moment of the Big Bang or even before the Big Bang. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The investment in the LHC is paying off. There may be other discoveries that will pave new developments in physics. But will it lead to the Unified Field? Perhaps it already has? Insight into the 'energy of the vacuum' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy More speculatively, the Higgs field has also been proposed as the energy of the vacuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy, which at the extreme energies of the first moments of the Big Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang caused the universe to be a kind of featureless symmetry of undifferentiated extremely high energy. In this kind of speculation, the single unified field of a Grand Unified Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory is identified as (or modeled upon) the Higgs field, and it is through successive symmetry breakings of the Higgs field or some similar field at phase transitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition that the present universe's known forces and fields arise From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
I'm guessing that they all agree with Stephen Hawking's theory about the Big Bang. If not, I'd be very surprised. Also, I'm wondering if Xeno has gone over there voluntarily or was he banished from FFL, like Pastor Barry and MJ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : No, definitely a she. But...when Alex had the gall to tap on the brakes a little last week, thinking aloud if a particular post might have intruded on someone's privacy, she comes charging out of the gate calling him a pussy, and a wussy, a coward and an otherwise poor excuse for human being, I thought to myself, gene menetley, is this isn't a candidate for a nagging wife, who is? But, maybe that's what 'ol Bar needs at this stage in his life. I'll let you follow the activities of the love birds. I don't think I'll be able to attend the wedding, however. Please forward my regrets. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, it's sorta sweet over there, Ann. It's as though Barry's taken a wife, and we get to see the honeymoon, all up close and personal. They haven't yet come up with pet names for one another, but I suspect that should be happening soon. NIce. I am happy for them. It is amazing the kind of connections one can make online. Forums are no exception. You just know when the vibe is right and all is groovy. Listen to me, I'm just a tad giddy with the news. Are we sure Sal is a woman? There are many men out there with that name. That's fine my be me though, I'm one of those FB posters who changed their profile picture to all those neat rainbow colors to show my support for same sex marriage so even if Sal is a man I'm all for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I have, so far managed to refrain from looking at FFL2 (except for that first morning Alex said he had set up a new site for the sake of quelling the moaning of the masses). For all I know, they're rehearsing for their next collaborative performance of Much Ado About Nothing. Or, perhaps, they are discussing how to help in ending world hunger or are raising money for the homeless. It's amazing how much positivity and intelligence can be generated when people get together as like-minded individuals. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts - or so they say. Yes, I am sure FFL2 must be a dazzling example of the heights to which individuals can soar when they put their mind to it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
I'll take exception to number 1.It works for me. At least the transcending part
and experiences of higher states of consciousness as described by M. However,
I seem to expect a lot less than most people. Not expecting *enlightenment*
anytime soon, especially in this life experience. Perhaps after many *life
times* of this practice, as said in the Gita. But then, I only shoot for 30
minutes twice a day. Relax, turn off your mind and float down stream. what's
the rush?
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 4:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
1. It fucking doesn't work.
2. You have to pay about a thousand fucking dollars for it.
3. About 98% of all persons who start TM quit forever within a few months with
no results.
4. The TM organization is run like a right-wing-religious cult, but is merely
a business taken over by a criminal in India.
5. Your mantra is determined by what age you are when you learn -- no other
criteria is used, even though you will be told your mantra is especially
selected for you just you and nobody else but you poop-poopy-doop! Some
teachers give the same mantra to everyone. Other teachers have a dozen to give
out. No logical explanations for this.
6. Most of the science used to sell TM is bogus -- conducted by biased minds
intent on tweaking the data.
7. 20 minutes meditating twice a day is a joke to almost anyone in the
movement. 4-6 hours a day spent in TMO sanctioned rituals is the accepted norm
for those who are serious about using the TM program.
8. Every TM teacher worships the spirits of dead gurus when doing the puja,
but you will never hear about the puja being a religious ritual in which the
teacher is attempting to enter a quasi-trance state.
9. Rich assholes with castrated psyches, wearing cringe-worthy crowns and
robes, expect their asses to be kissed as they pretend they run the movement,
but they are silly-ass powerless stooges who think of meditators as fodder for
money raising projects.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
Thanks, Alex. I seems that Natural Law has taken effect, given the fact that the banished ones were vehemently against the TMO. It's karma in action. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Xeno was banished by Forum Marshall Doug. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I'm guessing that they all agree with Stephen Hawking's theory about the Big Bang. If not, I'd be very surprised. Also, I'm wondering if Xeno has gone over there voluntarily or was he banished from FFL, like Pastor Barry and MJ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : No, definitely a she. But...when Alex had the gall to tap on the brakes a little last week, thinking aloud if a particular post might have intruded on someone's privacy, she comes charging out of the gate calling him a pussy, and a wussy, a coward and an otherwise poor excuse for human being, I thought to myself, gene menetley, is this isn't a candidate for a nagging wife, who is? But, maybe that's what 'ol Bar needs at this stage in his life. I'll let you follow the activities of the love birds. I don't think I'll be able to attend the wedding, however. Please forward my regrets. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, it's sorta sweet over there, Ann. It's as though Barry's taken a wife, and we get to see the honeymoon, all up close and personal. They haven't yet come up with pet names for one another, but I suspect that should be happening soon. NIce. I am happy for them. It is amazing the kind of connections one can make online. Forums are no exception. You just know when the vibe is right and all is groovy. Listen to me, I'm just a tad giddy with the news. Are we sure Sal is a woman? There are many men out there with that name. That's fine my be me though, I'm one of those FB posters who changed their profile picture to all those neat rainbow colors to show my support for same sex marriage so even if Sal is a man I'm all for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I have, so far managed to refrain from looking at FFL2 (except for that first morning Alex said he had set up a new site for the sake of quelling the moaning of the masses). For all I know, they're rehearsing for their next collaborative performance of Much Ado About Nothing. Or, perhaps, they are discussing how to help in ending world hunger or are raising money for the homeless. It's amazing how much positivity and intelligence can be generated when people get together as like-minded individuals. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts - or so they say. Yes, I am sure FFL2 must be a dazzling example of the heights to which individuals can soar when they put their mind to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
That's twice you've lost the plot about Doug's request. It was addressed to you and me concerning our exchange--you know, the one in which you said snotty things about me based on an erroneous assumption, and I said a couple of (less)-snotty things back. That's what he was objecting to, not comments about FFL2 in general, or anything Ann and Steve said. And as far as having anything else to talk about, you might want to do a quick count of the posts on FFL2 about the Original FFL (the components of the alternate reality I just mentioned). It's going to take a while for everybody on both forums to settle down and move on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. Ahem. Didn't you hear our Dear Leader's request to take this tedious BS off list? Don't you people have anything else to talk about?
[FairfieldLife] Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
1. It fucking doesn't work. 2. You have to pay about a thousand fucking dollars for it. 3. About 98% of all persons who start TM quit forever within a few months with no results. 4. The TM organization is run like a right-wing-religious cult, but is merely a business taken over by a criminal in India. 5. Your mantra is determined by what age you are when you learn -- no other criteria is used, even though you will be told your mantra is especially selected for you just you and nobody else but you poop-poopy-doop! Some teachers give the same mantra to everyone. Other teachers have a dozen to give out. No logical explanations for this. 6. Most of the science used to sell TM is bogus -- conducted by biased minds intent on tweaking the data. 7. 20 minutes meditating twice a day is a joke to almost anyone in the movement. 4-6 hours a day spent in TMO sanctioned rituals is the accepted norm for those who are serious about using the TM program. 8. Every TM teacher worships the spirits of dead gurus when doing the puja, but you will never hear about the puja being a religious ritual in which the teacher is attempting to enter a quasi-trance state. 9. Rich assholes with castrated psyches, wearing cringe-worthy crowns and robes, expect their asses to be kissed as they pretend they run the movement, but they are silly-ass powerless stooges who think of meditators as fodder for money raising projects. 10. Doug
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
Xeno was banished by Forum Marshall Doug. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote : I'm guessing that they all agree with Stephen Hawking's theory about the Big Bang. If not, I'd be very surprised. Also, I'm wondering if Xeno has gone over there voluntarily or was he banished from FFL, like Pastor Barry and MJ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : No, definitely a she. But...when Alex had the gall to tap on the brakes a little last week, thinking aloud if a particular post might have intruded on someone's privacy, she comes charging out of the gate calling him a pussy, and a wussy, a coward and an otherwise poor excuse for human being, I thought to myself, gene menetley, is this isn't a candidate for a nagging wife, who is? But, maybe that's what 'ol Bar needs at this stage in his life. I'll let you follow the activities of the love birds. I don't think I'll be able to attend the wedding, however. Please forward my regrets. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, it's sorta sweet over there, Ann. It's as though Barry's taken a wife, and we get to see the honeymoon, all up close and personal. They haven't yet come up with pet names for one another, but I suspect that should be happening soon. NIce. I am happy for them. It is amazing the kind of connections one can make online. Forums are no exception. You just know when the vibe is right and all is groovy. Listen to me, I'm just a tad giddy with the news. Are we sure Sal is a woman? There are many men out there with that name. That's fine my be me though, I'm one of those FB posters who changed their profile picture to all those neat rainbow colors to show my support for same sex marriage so even if Sal is a man I'm all for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I have, so far managed to refrain from looking at FFL2 (except for that first morning Alex said he had set up a new site for the sake of quelling the moaning of the masses). For all I know, they're rehearsing for their next collaborative performance of Much Ado About Nothing. Or, perhaps, they are discussing how to help in ending world hunger or are raising money for the homeless. It's amazing how much positivity and intelligence can be generated when people get together as like-minded individuals. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts - or so they say. Yes, I am sure FFL2 must be a dazzling example of the heights to which individuals can soar when they put their mind to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentaquark Discovered
Re If it's small you want: Well the Planck length is tiny - TO US! Let's not be chauvinist in our judgements. It's never been clear to me whether the Planck length is the smallest size any-thing can possibly be, or if it is just an impassable barrier for us with our human limitations. Are there - at least as a possibility - infinite worlds smaller still that we shall never be able to access? I've also come across the idea that men and women are size-wise (six feet tall) approximately in the middle between the Planck length on the one hand and the supposed size of the Universe on the other. Is that significant? Perhaps in one sense we really are the centre of the Universe ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If it's small you want, check out the total perspective vortex: The Scale of the Universe 2 http://htwins.net/scale2/ The Scale of the Universe 2 http://htwins.net/scale2/ Zoom from the edge of the universe to the quantum foam of spacetime and learn about everything in between. View on htwins.net http://htwins.net/scale2/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : My guess is that they'll find exotic particles that are smaller than the previous one. But how far can the LHC go? In the meantime, the leading physicists will have a field day in making speculations about what happened at the moment of the Big Bang or even before the Big Bang. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The investment in the LHC is paying off. There may be other discoveries that will pave new developments in physics. But will it lead to the Unified Field? Perhaps it already has? Insight into the 'energy of the vacuum' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy More speculatively, the Higgs field has also been proposed as the energy of the vacuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy, which at the extreme energies of the first moments of the Big Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang caused the universe to be a kind of featureless symmetry of undifferentiated extremely high energy. In this kind of speculation, the single unified field of a Grand Unified Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory is identified as (or modeled upon) the Higgs field, and it is through successive symmetry breakings of the Higgs field or some similar field at phase transitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition that the present universe's known forces and fields arise From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Possession is 9/10ths of the laws of narure
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Possession is not part of TM or most any other form of meditation. It is
a part of other paths rituals not limited to Subud. In tantra we have ways of
removing possession.
On 07/14/2015 02:54 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Re a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous
system:
Isn't that TM also?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :
MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession.
Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is
still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system.
That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY.
I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata,
Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
So what? Your rants are meaningless. They are examples of self-indulgent fixation upon your own imagined self-importance. As if your opinions are the clarion trumpet of truth! Ranting your obscenities influences no one - except those afraid of you. However, there is another way. When the Desert Father, Saint Anthony the Great, first came out of the desert after many years, people who saw him were stunned by his austere radiance. When approached about what he had done for the past decade, he only said - I have seen Him. The impact of his gaze upon them was immeasurable … However, braggadocio is cheap. It inhabits every crack-house. Change that. Be a blessing to those who know you. “Helps some, doesn't help some” ... so what? Earthly life is a stinkun field of help some - doesn't help some. Maybe you outta go trike yourself. You'll feel so much better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 1. It fucking doesn't work. 2. You have to pay about a thousand fucking dollars for it. 3. About 98% of all persons who start TM quit forever within a few months with no results. 4. The TM organization is run like a right-wing-religious cult, but is merely a business taken over by a criminal in India. 5. Your mantra is determined by what age you are when you learn -- no other criteria is used, even though you will be told your mantra is especially selected for you just you and nobody else but you poop-poopy-doop! Some teachers give the same mantra to everyone. Other teachers have a dozen to give out. No logical explanations for this. 6. Most of the science used to sell TM is bogus -- conducted by biased minds intent on tweaking the data. 7. 20 minutes meditating twice a day is a joke to almost anyone in the movement. 4-6 hours a day spent in TMO sanctioned rituals is the accepted norm for those who are serious about using the TM program. 8. Every TM teacher worships the spirits of dead gurus when doing the puja, but you will never hear about the puja being a religious ritual in which the teacher is attempting to enter a quasi-trance state. 9. Rich assholes with castrated psyches, wearing cringe-worthy crowns and robes, expect their asses to be kissed as they pretend they run the movement, but they are silly-ass powerless stooges who think of meditators as fodder for money raising projects. 10. Doug
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[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Yep, well said. Spirit possession is not related to the practice of TM or any form of yoga - whether described by Patanjali or codified in the Agamas and Tantras of Vaishnavas, Shaivas or Shaktas.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. You mean they haven't raised millions for the unfed? Gotten their production of Much Ado About Nothing on the road yet? Cobbling together an alternate version of reality... sounds interesting though. Perhaps when they are ready they can unleash it on the whole world. In the meantime, I'll imagine it might be something worthwhile until I see evidence of it within my reality. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : No, definitely a she. But...when Alex had the gall to tap on the brakes a little last week, thinking aloud if a particular post might have intruded on someone's privacy, she comes charging out of the gate calling him a pussy, and a wussy, a coward and an otherwise poor excuse for human being, I thought to myself, gene menetley, is this isn't a candidate for a nagging wife, who is? But, maybe that's what 'ol Bar needs at this stage in his life. I'll let you follow the activities of the love birds. I don't think I'll be able to attend the wedding, however. Please forward my regrets. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, it's sorta sweet over there, Ann. It's as though Barry's taken a wife, and we get to see the honeymoon, all up close and personal. They haven't yet come up with pet names for one another, but I suspect that should be happening soon. NIce. I am happy for them. It is amazing the kind of connections one can make online. Forums are no exception. You just know when the vibe is right and all is groovy. Listen to me, I'm just a tad giddy with the news. Are we sure Sal is a woman? There are many men out there with that name. That's fine my be me though, I'm one of those FB posters who changed their profile picture to all those neat rainbow colors to show my support for same sex marriage so even if Sal is a man I'm all for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I have, so far managed to refrain from looking at FFL2 (except for that first morning Alex said he had set up a new site for the sake of quelling the moaning of the masses). For all I know, they're rehearsing for their next collaborative performance of Much Ado About Nothing. Or, perhaps, they are discussing how to help in ending world hunger or are raising money for the homeless. It's amazing how much positivity and intelligence can be generated when people get together as like-minded individuals. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts - or so they say. Yes, I am sure FFL2 must be a dazzling example of the heights to which individuals can soar when they put their mind to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
Unfortunately, I think you are right. There doesn't seem to be any real interest on Edg's part in connecting with anyone here. Just a lot of the self indulgent, as you say. Not sure about the the_peak, but I think the best days of FFL, and FFL-2 (even in its infancy) are behind us. Come to think of it, I don't anyone is really interested in connecting. Maybe that's just hitting 60, or 70, or whatever the case may be. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : So what? Your rants are meaningless. They are examples of self-indulgent fixation upon your own imagined self-importance. As if your opinions are the clarion trumpet of truth! Ranting your obscenities influences no one - except those afraid of you. However, there is another way. When the Desert Father, Saint Anthony the Great, first came out of the desert after many years, people who saw him were stunned by his austere radiance. When approached about what he had done for the past decade, he only said - I have seen Him. The impact of his gaze upon them was immeasurable … However, braggadocio is cheap. It inhabits every crack-house. Change that. Be a blessing to those who know you. “Helps some, doesn't help some” ... so what? Earthly life is a stinkun field of help some - doesn't help some. Maybe you outta go trike yourself. You'll feel so much better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 1. It fucking doesn't work. 2. You have to pay about a thousand fucking dollars for it. 3. About 98% of all persons who start TM quit forever within a few months with no results. 4. The TM organization is run like a right-wing-religious cult, but is merely a business taken over by a criminal in India. 5. Your mantra is determined by what age you are when you learn -- no other criteria is used, even though you will be told your mantra is especially selected for you just you and nobody else but you poop-poopy-doop! Some teachers give the same mantra to everyone. Other teachers have a dozen to give out. No logical explanations for this. 6. Most of the science used to sell TM is bogus -- conducted by biased minds intent on tweaking the data. 7. 20 minutes meditating twice a day is a joke to almost anyone in the movement. 4-6 hours a day spent in TMO sanctioned rituals is the accepted norm for those who are serious about using the TM program. 8. Every TM teacher worships the spirits of dead gurus when doing the puja, but you will never hear about the puja being a religious ritual in which the teacher is attempting to enter a quasi-trance state. 9. Rich assholes with castrated psyches, wearing cringe-worthy crowns and robes, expect their asses to be kissed as they pretend they run the movement, but they are silly-ass powerless stooges who think of meditators as fodder for money raising projects. 10. Doug
[FairfieldLife] Re: Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Unfortunately, I think you are right. There doesn't seem to be any real interest on Edg's part in connecting with anyone here. Just a lot of the self indulgent, as you say. Not sure about the the_peak, but I think the best days of FFL, and FFL-2 (even in its infancy) are behind us. Come to think of it, I don't anyone is really interested in connecting. Maybe that's just hitting 60, or 70, or whatever the case may be. (-: I like connecting but this forum phenomenon is fairly new to me. There is a whole world out there where people stare at white screens and think of things to say to other people on all sorts of subjects. It seems some of these people are great communicators and smart at the same time. Some are smart but not great communicators. Others apparently have no other outside interests or friends or things to keep them away from a computer but they are reasonably benign. Others seem to exist online purely for the opportunity it gives them to blather on or insult others in a way that allows them to take no ownership of what they say or do in a meaningful way - like the guy who runs over the dog and leaves it to flail around in the middle of the road. Fascinating but not always pleasant and certainly not always worthwhile to spend time reading. However! Currently the original group has chosen its preferred flavor of interaction now that one has become three. Some were forced to find another outlet - and some are straddling the line between two forums while others are sticking to just one place. As far as Edg is concerned I just see his posts as all out give-it-all-you've-got brinkmanship with a, believe it or not, generous dollop of playfulness that can come across as a hearty slap in the face. I'm personally terrified of the guy so I just look the other way when I see him coming or nod dutifully. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : So what? Your rants are meaningless. They are examples of self-indulgent fixation upon your own imagined self-importance. As if your opinions are the clarion trumpet of truth! Ranting your obscenities influences no one - except those afraid of you. However, there is another way. When the Desert Father, Saint Anthony the Great, first came out of the desert after many years, people who saw him were stunned by his austere radiance. When approached about what he had done for the past decade, he only said - I have seen Him. The impact of his gaze upon them was immeasurable … However, braggadocio is cheap. It inhabits every crack-house. Change that. Be a blessing to those who know you. “Helps some, doesn't help some” ... so what? Earthly life is a stinkun field of help some - doesn't help some. Maybe you outta go trike yourself. You'll feel so much better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 1. It fucking doesn't work. 2. You have to pay about a thousand fucking dollars for it. 3. About 98% of all persons who start TM quit forever within a few months with no results. 4. The TM organization is run like a right-wing-religious cult, but is merely a business taken over by a criminal in India. 5. Your mantra is determined by what age you are when you learn -- no other criteria is used, even though you will be told your mantra is especially selected for you just you and nobody else but you poop-poopy-doop! Some teachers give the same mantra to everyone. Other teachers have a dozen to give out. No logical explanations for this. 6. Most of the science used to sell TM is bogus -- conducted by biased minds intent on tweaking the data. 7. 20 minutes meditating twice a day is a joke to almost anyone in the movement. 4-6 hours a day spent in TMO sanctioned rituals is the accepted norm for those who are serious about using the TM program. 8. Every TM teacher worships the spirits of dead gurus when doing the puja, but you will never hear about the puja being a religious ritual in which the teacher is attempting to enter a quasi-trance state. 9. Rich assholes with castrated psyches, wearing cringe-worthy crowns and robes, expect their asses to be kissed as they pretend they run the movement, but they are silly-ass powerless stooges who think of meditators as fodder for money raising projects. 10. Doug
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Possession is not part of TM or most any other form of meditation. It is a part of other paths rituals not limited to Subud. In tantra we have ways of removing possession. On 07/14/2015 02:54 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system: Isn't that TM also? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : MMY said Subud is a form of spirit possession. Whether it is an actual spirit-entity or an amorphic spirit energy, it is still a form of mind-body discordance that cedes control of the nervous system. That alone marked Subud as verboten to MMY. I heard him say so in one of my TTC's - maybe at Humboldt State U. in Arcata, Calif. during the summer of 1971 or perhaps Fiuggi in the spring of 1972.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentaquark Discovered
As I understand it, Planck is the guy that proposed it is impossible to measure anything smaller than 10 to the power of -23 centimeters. As such, that is effectively the juncture between the relative and the absolute. John Hagelin proposed that is where the quantum foam rises from the unified field. IMO, the proposal is logical and is the likely explanation for the Big Ban. However, physicists like Stephen Hawking do not believe in this theory since they believe in the material world paradigm. Therefore, they believe that the quantum is the smallest matter in the universe--meaning that they have to conclude that the universe created itself. IMO, this conclusion is illogical and foolish, notwithstanding their education and research in physics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re If it's small you want: Well the Planck length is tiny - TO US! Let's not be chauvinist in our judgements. It's never been clear to me whether the Planck length is the smallest size any-thing can possibly be, or if it is just an impassable barrier for us with our human limitations. Are there - at least as a possibility - infinite worlds smaller still that we shall never be able to access? I've also come across the idea that men and women are size-wise (six feet tall) approximately in the middle between the Planck length on the one hand and the supposed size of the Universe on the other. Is that significant? Perhaps in one sense we really are the centre of the Universe ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If it's small you want, check out the total perspective vortex: The Scale of the Universe 2 http://htwins.net/scale2/ The Scale of the Universe 2 http://htwins.net/scale2/ Zoom from the edge of the universe to the quantum foam of spacetime and learn about everything in between. View on htwins.net http://htwins.net/scale2/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : My guess is that they'll find exotic particles that are smaller than the previous one. But how far can the LHC go? In the meantime, the leading physicists will have a field day in making speculations about what happened at the moment of the Big Bang or even before the Big Bang. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The investment in the LHC is paying off. There may be other discoveries that will pave new developments in physics. But will it lead to the Unified Field? Perhaps it already has? Insight into the 'energy of the vacuum' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy More speculatively, the Higgs field has also been proposed as the energy of the vacuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy, which at the extreme energies of the first moments of the Big Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang caused the universe to be a kind of featureless symmetry of undifferentiated extremely high energy. In this kind of speculation, the single unified field of a Grand Unified Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory is identified as (or modeled upon) the Higgs field, and it is through successive symmetry breakings of the Higgs field or some similar field at phase transitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition that the present universe's known forces and fields arise From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Top Ten Reasons TM Really Really Sucks
I see you're running your angry drunk in a bar tape again, Edg, although I suspect it's just an act. But why don't you try it out on FFL2, where it will probably be hailed as post of the week for its bold truth-telling and fearless ideas? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 1. It fucking doesn't work. 2. You have to pay about a thousand fucking dollars for it. 3. About 98% of all persons who start TM quit forever within a few months with no results. 4. The TM organization is run like a right-wing-religious cult, but is merely a business taken over by a criminal in India. 5. Your mantra is determined by what age you are when you learn -- no other criteria is used, even though you will be told your mantra is especially selected for you just you and nobody else but you poop-poopy-doop! Some teachers give the same mantra to everyone. Other teachers have a dozen to give out. No logical explanations for this. 6. Most of the science used to sell TM is bogus -- conducted by biased minds intent on tweaking the data. 7. 20 minutes meditating twice a day is a joke to almost anyone in the movement. 4-6 hours a day spent in TMO sanctioned rituals is the accepted norm for those who are serious about using the TM program. 8. Every TM teacher worships the spirits of dead gurus when doing the puja, but you will never hear about the puja being a religious ritual in which the teacher is attempting to enter a quasi-trance state. 9. Rich assholes with castrated psyches, wearing cringe-worthy crowns and robes, expect their asses to be kissed as they pretend they run the movement, but they are silly-ass powerless stooges who think of meditators as fodder for money raising projects. 10. Doug
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentaquark Discovered
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : My guess is that they'll find exotic particles that are smaller than the previous one. But how far can the LHC go? In the meantime, the leading physicists will have a field day in making speculations about what happened at the moment of the Big Bang or even before the Big Bang. The LHC is a circle 7 miles in circumference, there is a definite limit to what it can find with the sort of power it can generate. I read that if we wanted to solve cosmological problems like string theory we would need a particle accelerator the size of the Earth's orbit round the sun. I don't think we've got the budget for that at the moment... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The investment in the LHC is paying off. There may be other discoveries that will pave new developments in physics. But will it lead to the Unified Field? Perhaps it already has? Insight into the 'energy of the vacuum' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy More speculatively, the Higgs field has also been proposed as the energy of the vacuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy, which at the extreme energies of the first moments of the Big Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang caused the universe to be a kind of featureless symmetry of undifferentiated extremely high energy. In this kind of speculation, the single unified field of a Grand Unified Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory is identified as (or modeled upon) the Higgs field, and it is through successive symmetry breakings of the Higgs field or some similar field at phase transitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition that the present universe's known forces and fields arise From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentaquark Discovered
My guess is that they'll find exotic particles that are smaller than the previous one. But how far can the LHC go? In the meantime, the leading physicists will have a field day in making speculations about what happened at the moment of the Big Bang or even before the Big Bang. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The investment in the LHC is paying off. There may be other discoveries that will pave new developments in physics. But will it lead to the Unified Field? Perhaps it already has? Insight into the 'energy of the vacuum' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy More speculatively, the Higgs field has also been proposed as the energy of the vacuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy, which at the extreme energies of the first moments of the Big Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang caused the universe to be a kind of featureless symmetry of undifferentiated extremely high energy. In this kind of speculation, the single unified field of a Grand Unified Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory is identified as (or modeled upon) the Higgs field, and it is through successive symmetry breakings of the Higgs field or some similar field at phase transitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition that the present universe's known forces and fields arise From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentaquark Discovered
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The investment in the LHC is paying off. There may be other discoveries that will pave new developments in physics. But will it lead to the Unified Field? Perhaps it already has? Insight into the 'energy of the vacuum' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy More speculatively, the Higgs field has also been proposed as the energy of the vacuum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy, which at the extreme energies of the first moments of the Big Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang caused the universe to be a kind of featureless symmetry of undifferentiated extremely high energy. In this kind of speculation, the single unified field of a Grand Unified Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Unified_Theory is identified as (or modeled upon) the Higgs field, and it is through successive symmetry breakings of the Higgs field or some similar field at phase transitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_transition that the present universe's known forces and fields arise From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
