[FairfieldLife] Should the Pope Resign?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Some cardinals want him to resign.  If there is an obvious trend that a schism 
will occur if he continues to be pope,  IMO that's the time he'll resign.  I 
think he's trying to shake up the church to encourage renewal of the member's 
attitude.  There are liberals and conservatives in the church, but they have to 
learn how to live together.  Should TMers in the church teach others how to 
transcend?
 

 
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/report-some-cardinals-want-pope-franics-resign-fear-schism-worse-reformation
 
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/report-some-cardinals-want-pope-franics-resign-fear-schism-worse-reformation

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: basis of morals

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yep, you are onto something with the polyvagal in this, ..a stronger case is 
made when introducing the evidence relating to the Polyvagal nervous system.
  
 Different than moral philosophizing it would seem spiritual morality possibly 
is better understood as rooted or embodied more by reflection of the presence 
of consciousness through the whole subtle system and this well-being moderated 
ably by the Golden Rule in life.  

 Of spiritual morality it is like one has the practical law of the Golden Rule 
protecting or promoting the hologram of the subtle system and then cultural 
administrative state regulation like of the ten commandments.  All about 
operationalizing the embodiment of consciousness in the light body from the 
mental fields on down through the polyvagal into the heart, solar plexus and 
root energetics of the system.  Cultivating and grounding spirituality.

 MMY on spirituality:  “..for it is the unfoldment of the essential nature of 
the soul, or inner consciousness.”

 The last techniques Maharishi was working on teaching were in this direction 
of grounding, bringing the mental fields down into the body. The relative 
direction of experience then as to the cultivation of spirituality becomes the 
litmus of morality. That simple.  Virtuous, sinful or neutral in effect on the 
unfoldment of spirituality in life.

 basis of morals Yifuxero writes:
 Ironically, advances connecting meditation to morals have been made outside 
the TM Movement by people like Sam Harris; and a stronger case is made when 
introducing the evidence relating to the Polyvagal nervous system.
 

 #
 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Atheists AronRa and Matt Dillahunty take on a caller questioning Matt's 
statement that adherence to reality is an asset when making decisions relating 
to well being.  The process involves correct knowledge preferably based on 
testable assertions
 Other segments carry the Theist arguments to an extreme.  Their arguments go 
like this:
 1. Atheists make a claim that moral values have evolved over time, and are 
thus not absolute.
 2. Theists reply that since moral values without God are subject to change, 
one needs an absolute basis for judgment coming for am All-Knowing, All-Loving 
Creator who is the Lawgiver and Source of Absolute morals.
 3. Atheists reply that a. the existence of the Creator-God is questionable 
since there's no direct evidence,
 .b. the problem of evil (especially the questions raised by Epicurus).
  c. the question of which God is "true" one
 .d. the Bible-based statements demonstrating that the Judaeo-Christian 
condoned slavery and 
 .actually sanctioned it (Cf. Exodus 21), and also condoned and 
promoted stoning for a variety of 
 .offences such as adultery, working on the Sabbath, and for unruly 
children.
 
 Can the debate be applied to TM? Yes, at least the TMO has tried to make the 
connection between the practice of TM and one's well-being.  Parameters such as 
blood pressure and brain waves are the low-hanging fruit and haven't countered 
the effect of control  techniques such as Mindfulness.
 
 Ironically, advances connecting meditation to morals have been made outside 
the TM Movement by people like Sam Harris; and a stronger case is made when 
introducing the evidence relating to the Polyvagal nervous system.  Finally, 
the TMO needs a stronger connection to Compassion, not merely a few lip-service 
statements by MMY. A 3 min video.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6ljqgf4CA 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6ljqgf4CA
 

  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] basis of morals

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A softer, sweeter way to punish people for their imagined religious offences is 
drowning in molasses. 
There is morality which has religious origins, and ethics which supposedly 
could give a secular spin to behavior.
The goal, or if spoken of in evolutionary terms, the result of greater societal 
coherence seems to break down in the following way --- lover (wife, husband 
etc.), family, extended family relationships, societal group (politics, 
religion and others), country, country allies.
This appears on the basis of studies to be a result of evolutionary unfolding, 
which is later codified as secular laws or religious prohibitions and 
permissions. Ethics involves finding a rational basis for such laws, while 
morality keeps the priests and their equivalents in business.
In watching animals, you see some of these effects, but you do not see morality 
or ethics, which is a layer added by the human capacity for thought.

  From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] basis of morals
   
    Atheists AronRa and Matt Dillahunty take on a caller questioning Matt's 
statement that adherence to reality is an asset when making decisions relating 
to well being.  The process involves correct knowledge preferably based on 
testable assertionsOther segments carry the Theist arguments to an extreme.  
Their arguments go like this:1. Atheists make a claim that moral values have 
evolved over time, and are thus not absolute.2. Theists reply that since moral 
values without God are subject to change, one needs an absolute basis for 
judgment coming for am All-Knowing, All-Loving Creator who is the Lawgiver and 
Source of Absolute morals.3. Atheists reply that a. the existence of the 
Creator-God is questionable since there's no direct evidence,.b. the 
problem of evil (especially the questions raised by Epicurus). c. the 
question of which God is "true" one.d. the Bible-based statements 
demonstrating that the Judaeo-Christian condoned slavery and 
.actually sanctioned it (Cf. Exodus 21), and also condoned and 
promoted stoning for a variety of .offences such as adultery, 
working on the Sabbath, and for unruly children.Can the debate be applied 
to TM? Yes, at least the TMO has tried to make the connection between the 
practice of TM and one's well-being.  Parameters such as blood pressure and 
brain waves are the low-hanging fruit and haven't countered the effect of 
control  techniques such as Mindfulness.Ironically, advances connecting 
meditation to morals have been made outside the TM Movement by people like Sam 
Harris; and a stronger case is made when introducing the evidence relating to 
the Polyvagal nervous system.  Finally, the TMO needs a stronger connection to 
Compassion, not merely a few lip-service statements by MMY. A 3 min 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks. If one or other of the authors is still at MUM maybe you could contact 
them. 

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
   
    Yes, and apparently there are more papers coming to be published with a 
similar level of certainty based on publicly available public health stats.   
The 'replication' in certainty of their observations coming in to an aggregate 
as statistical fact seems to get more and more uncomfortable for some critics 
who may for ideological reason would like to believe otherwise, sort of like it 
seems for science-deniers in other areas of public policy and publicly 
available data sets. These papers on meditation will probably be available to 
read from other channels in time, places like Truth about ™ and Honest Truth 
about ™.  They are not in the farm journals I subscribe to. I will see who I 
run into around here as to getting copies that we can all easily read.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

.. is there a published data set of dome numbers since the construction of the 
domes?
It would be nice to see. I am not disputing the possibility there is the stated 
effect, but that there are other correlations that are just as plausible such 
as safer cars.
The promotional PDF states, "For example, the reduction in motor vehicle 
fatality rates could not be explained by the total number of vehicle miles 
traveled, weather patterns, the proportion of young drivers, improved vehicle 
safety features, improved roadway conditions, or alcohol consumption."
But the promotional document gives no indication how those conclusions were 
arrived at. The paper needs to disprove these alternative explanations, not 
just dismiss them. Maybe they are in the full paper?
The federal government seems to think auto safety features are the reason for 
the fatality decline, which is the most plausible explanation.
There is also Journal Quality as a metric for published research.There is 
something called the h-index which is a metric used to evaluate this. The top 
Journals Nature, and Science, have an h-index of 948 and 915 respectively while 
the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks 49, not very good by comparison, 
though some journals rank 0. 
Another ranking called SJR (SCImago Journal Rank) has Nature and Science at 21 
and 13 respectively, and the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks at 0.25. 
These rankings indicate that poorer quality scientific papers get published in 
this consciousness journal, that fewer scenentists are interested in stuff 
published here. If you are a scientist, not very good, and want to be 
published, then you look for lower ranked journals to try to get published.
The journal wants almost $30 for a PDF of the full paper, which is only 
summarized by the PDF posted here. 
Does one of the scientists have a copy they could send you which you could 
post? They usually have these things on hand.
The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingenta 
Connect

 
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The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingen...
By Cavanaugh, K.L. |  |

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Another point, Scientific Journals are not Scripture.
But continue to meditate. The byproducts of meditation, whatever they are, are 
not as important as enlightenment.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
 
 Observations and correlations about meditation and well-being were made 
throughout the last half of the 20th Century in published pilot research.  A 
rightly skeptical criticism of that body of scientific research conducted has 
been that much that was substantial was without “replication”.  The challenge 
in 'repetition' from a general decline in the teaching of meditation to new 
practitioners and the separation of many experienced practitioners from 
organized group practice of group meditations in the 1990’s and 2000’s was then 
obtaining repetition in that scope of research occurring previously in the 
1970’s and 1980’s in the shear size of those previous meditating groups to 
measure with controls.  This scale of size recurred again, occurring for a 
period of time running between 2007 and 2010.  
These published papers as hypothesis testing appear now as 'critical' 
replications in the correlation process of science. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ArcherAngel, It would seem you could legitimately lodge your beefs on the 
research with the journals themselves and their peer review processes. It would 

[FairfieldLife] La Trompe français??

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Marine Le Pen, French Trump??
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9WZeAVbSTo 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9WZeAVbSTo

 

[FairfieldLife] Fraught with History, “Enemies of the Movement”

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A strong term like, ‘Enemy of the People’.
 


 ‘Enemy of the People,’ a Phrase With a Fraught History 
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/26/world/europe/trump-enemy-of-the-people-stalin.html
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/26/world/europe/trump-enemy-of-the-people-stalin.html
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, and apparently there are more papers coming to be published with a similar 
level of certainty based on publicly available public health stats.   The 
'replication' in certainty of their observations coming in to an aggregate as 
statistical fact seems to get more and more uncomfortable for some critics who 
may for ideological reason would like to believe otherwise, sort of like it 
seems for science-deniers in other areas of public policy and publicly 
available data sets. These papers on meditation will probably be available to 
read from other channels in time, places like Truth about ™ and Honest Truth 
about ™.  They are not in the farm journals I subscribe to. I will see who I 
run into around here as to getting copies that we can all easily read.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 .. is there a published data set of dome numbers since the construction of the 
domes?
 

 It would be nice to see. I am not disputing the possibility there is the 
stated effect, but that there are other correlations that are just as plausible 
such as safer cars.
 

 The promotional PDF states, "For example, the reduction in motor vehicle 
fatality rates could not be explained by the total number of vehicle miles 
traveled, weather patterns, the proportion of young drivers, improved vehicle 
safety features, improved roadway conditions, or alcohol consumption."
 

 But the promotional document gives no indication how those conclusions were 
arrived at. The paper needs to disprove these alternative explanations, not 
just dismiss them. Maybe they are in the full paper?
 

 The federal government seems to think auto safety features are the reason for 
the fatality decline, which is the most plausible explanation.
 

 There is also Journal Quality as a metric for published research.There is 
something called the h-index which is a metric used to evaluate this. The top 
Journals Nature, and Science, have an h-index of 948 and 915 respectively while 
the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks 49, not very good by comparison, 
though some journals rank 0. 
 

 Another ranking called SJR (SCImago Journal Rank) has Nature and Science at 21 
and 13 respectively, and the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks at 0.25. 
 

 These rankings indicate that poorer quality scientific papers get published in 
this consciousness journal, that fewer scenentists are interested in stuff 
published here. If you are a scientist, not very good, and want to be 
published, then you look for lower ranked journals to try to get published.
 

 The journal wants almost $30 for a PDF of the full paper, which is only 
summarized by the PDF posted here. 
 

 Does one of the scientists have a copy they could send you which you could 
post? They usually have these things on hand.
 

 The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingenta 
Connect 
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/imp/jcs/2017/0024/F0020001/art3

 

 The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingen... 
By Cavanaugh, K.L. 
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/imp/jcs/2017/0024/F0020001/art3
 

 Another point, Scientific Journals are not Scripture.
 

 But continue to meditate. The byproducts of meditation, whatever they are, are 
not as important as enlightenment.


 From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
 
 
   
 Observations and correlations about meditation and well-being were made 
throughout the last half of the 20th Century in published pilot research.  A 
rightly skeptical criticism of that body of scientific research conducted has 
been that much that was substantial was without “replication”.  The challenge 
in 'repetition' from a general decline in the teaching of meditation to new 
practitioners and the separation of many experienced practitioners from 
organized group practice of group meditations in the 1990’s and 2000’s was then 
obtaining repetition in that scope of research occurring previously in the 
1970’s and 1980’s in the shear size of those previous meditating groups to 
measure with controls.  This scale of size recurred again, occurring for a 
period of time running between 2007 and 2010.  

 These published papers as hypothesis testing appear now as 'critical' 
replications in the correlation process of science. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ArcherAngel, It would seem you could legitimately lodge your beefs on the 
research with the journals themselves and their peer review processes. It would 
be interesting to hear their responses. 
 

 You did notice and open in the original post on this topic that a pdf of the 
research was included?
  
 As replication testing of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Sorry, Meissner effect is NOT an electromagnetic field; Wiki:
 

 The Meissner effect is the expulsion of a magnetic field 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field from a superconductor 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductor during its transition to the 
superconducting state.