[FairfieldLife] Re: Carlos Castaneda

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 There is that word again, unconscionable. 
 

 "..his books represent a grotesque distortion of indigenous belief systems. 
It’s unconscionable that the University of California Press continues to 
publish his first book as a work of “Native American Studies.” They are nothing 
of the sort, and this needs to be understood in the context of cultural 
genocide.  And although many seem to have enjoyed their time on the periphery 
of the cultic group Castaneda started in the 90s, the lives of many others were 
irreparably damaged. There’s beauty in Castaneda’s books. But it’s based on 
lies."

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I actually believed his crap, through the first book,, second, third,; 
then when he claimed that he jumped off a building and landed in another city, 
I finally said,..."wait a minute". (total BS).
 

 Castaneda and missing women:
 

 http://disinfo.com/2015/09/don-juan-lie-carlos-castaneda-4-missing-women/ 
http://disinfo.com/2015/09/don-juan-lie-carlos-castaneda-4-missing-women/
 

[FairfieldLife] The Fortune Teller

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

by Caravaggio:
 

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[FairfieldLife] Carlos Castaneda

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I actually believed his crap, through the first book,, second, third,; then 
when he claimed that he jumped off a building and landed in another city, I 
finally said,..."wait a minute". (total BS).
 

 Castaneda and missing women:
 

 http://disinfo.com/2015/09/don-juan-lie-carlos-castaneda-4-missing-women/ 
http://disinfo.com/2015/09/don-juan-lie-carlos-castaneda-4-missing-women/
 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What was the procedure used to eliminate all other possible influences, both 
subtle and mundane; and what procedure was used to quantify the levels of 
Shakti generated by countless groups that could have contributed to the 
effects?  How about the undesirable stats such as increased opioid addition and 
heroin deaths and the thousands of dead people in Syra.  Also, the starving 
people in Somalia.? Sounds like a case of selection bias. Again for the 
umpteenth time, correlation is not causation.
 Thanks, Shalom
 

 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Asking around, more FF satsanga notes.. 
 

 "These are cultivated people caught up in this, these are people who have 
meditated a lot, long and hard.  Meditation. It is such a fascinating thing to 
see someone struggling in this way because this black magician guy showed up.  
The guy’s honey-ied words, like the devil. 
 You think of Jesus in the wilderness, it is offered, everything is offered. 
You could be king of the world. You could have everything you want, by a 
powerful super driven black magician, whatever you want to call that."

 

 " ‘My’ power, mine. ‘I’ can do these things. That is what this guy apparently 
languages. I am going to show you, the ‘I’ meaning him.  ‘I’ am going to show 
you the meaning of life. ‘I’ am going to open your consciousness to Divine 
Love. “I” can? “I” can open *your* consciousness to divine love?  
 Warning! Warning! "   
 

 "Like spiritual hooks in the fabric of the system..It isn’t like it isn’t real 
but what is its significance as things in the subtle astral body system are 
releasing is only to get beyond them and the power of their influence. But they 
can become seductive when you have these experiences whether it is these 
powers, or anything that is going to groom the spiritual ego. It is just ego." 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, it seems the guy is elsewhere and some people here found out about him by 
word of mouth and the internet and went to his programs. It sounded like he is 
on the West coast. I don’t think he has been to Fairfield. 
 This it seems has created some turmoil here and goofed some long time 
meditators up with his influence. Though it all seems a good reflection 
discerning about what is a “number one” spiritual experience along the way.
 

Interesting too about Cohen. Thanks. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he 
could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga


  
  
 >I was thinking of Andrew Cohen and neo-advaitas you have had on batgap.  You 
 >kind of gave them their ropes to let them hang themselves.. A lot of 
 >spiritual ego by example. 
 I recently took Cohen’s interview down, because I had taken down another two 
interviews by a rather popular Advaita teacher whom we discovered (through 
credible feedback from the victim) had drugged and raped a girl between her 
ages of 14-16 when he was 40ish, back in the early ‘80’s. His students were 
complaining that it was unfair that I had taken him down and left Cohen up. I 
had done so because what Cohen had done wasn’t illegal, and was also well-known 
now. 
  

 >This more recent thing I didn't get the name on.  The people sitting around a 
 >table at Revelations were being real guarded to not get anyone in trouble but 
 >it was an active concern of theirs. I just listened some and asked questions 
 >a little and wrote some notes. It was interesting spiritual satsanga.   -FFL  
 >  
  
 So some guy in FF is engaging in sexual tantra with multiple partners and some 
sort of soul-swapping black magic? That’s what you’re saying?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Who is this?: recently watched Rick Archer let one NPD'ed hang out to dry in 
his Batgap interviews
  
 And this?: From the spiritual sexual tantra kind of encounter with him, this 
scandalous man, this ne'er-do-well, .. takes people around and puts them into 
other people’s bodies.  Bad.  This guy facilitates that, he is like a black 
magician.”
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he 
could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga


  
  More Satanga,  
 “Spiritual egos..They are feeders, they are particular narcissists, they need 
the energy of others for validation. They don’t have much. Their spiritual 
identification is about the ego.  That is the level of their identification 
spiritually. It isn’t Self but it, the identification has sufficient juice. 

 So this guy has the ability to give these people these very flashy experiences
 that have embedded in them extremely pleasurable bliss experiences.
 This is very very bad.  People get excited, people did.  
 So people give themselves over.  By the nature of the bliss experiences people 
start
 abdicating power.  Yikes!” 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 More FF Satsanga this morning:
 

 "Really Maharishi did not prepare us for this. 
 

..Really the only thing was handed out to us as the sheet of the one discourse 
from 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vying for #1 Spiritual Experiences..

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

On the ‘sharing’ about ‘number one’ experiences, 
 from the FF Coffee Haus satsanga..

 “On the assembly on the long program, appreciating the experience of the 
finest relative,
 it is interesting, fascinating. They are devatas, it is interesting but it is 
very ordinary.  It is just how it happens, this emergent thing that happens.
 Because people may or may not have experience with it themselves if the 
experience is not said in a form that they have in mind it can be dismissed. It 
can be very painful too sharing with some people, being free and then being 
dismissed if it doesn’t fit a criteria of description. It is hard when you 
don’t have ones refereeing this, discerning this as they hear it, experiencing 
it too. 

A few of the people are good with it by their own experience others are rote.”
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sharing the number one experiences? 
Deluding the ignorant.. An answer from the FF meditator satsanga, a classical 
conservative meditator’s frank response: Deluding the ignorant publicizing 
spiritual experience is too much like ‘throwing pearls before swine’. Swine are 
fine but, cultivate and refine perception, don’t publicise it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sharing the number one experiences? 

 Asking this question around in the Fairfield, Iowa Coffee Haus satsanga…

A: Don’t promote the experiences, the critique too easily can get confused with 
someone saying “I had a drug trip like that”or, “they are crazy, dissociated”.  
Without context,  sharing would sound delusional or hallucinatory.  Instead, 
look at what is the quality of the life of the people practicing.   Flashy or 
abstract experience, that may not be the goal of the program.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 advice from the internet: ..As for how one rates one's state of consciousness, 
my advice is to stay the f**k away from any such thinking. It becomes clear in 
time where you are, informed by consciousness itself; established in silence, 
seeing the world as yourself, or whatever.
 
 Some awakened olderTM’er reflecting..

 ‘Number One experiences’, has become an unfortunate emphasis on a person 
having experiences rather than waking up. Combine that with no verification 
system and it has the making of getting people distracted while sitting in a 
place dedicated to supreme knowledge. They recognize the issue but have not 
found a solution yet.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There is some thought being given recently to publishing some of the ‘number 
one’ experiences such that people outside the Domes could have some insight as 
to what is going on inside. Maybe even inspire meditators to come to the 
collective meditation and meditate again. 
 This ‘experience checking’ on the assembly started back some years ago to 
follow how it was going for people on the assembly and then somewhat in 
response to a criticism that was common and said about TM, “..where are you 
enlightened?”.  Those of us who live and meditate here in Fairfield know people 
who are doing quite well spiritually. Rick Archer started his interviews on 
Batgap on this premise too and effectively scooped the TM movement entirely on 
this.

 
 Yifuxero writes:
 I'm skeptical as to the benefits of public displays of "experiences".  I've 
seen/heard that before and it generally backfires in some way.  They'll find 
out!
 The testimonies on BatGap fall into different categories and generalizations 
would be improper at this time.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Briefly, according to state of experience, three categories used to discern 
level of ‘number one’ spiritual state are:  

 “Madhuchhandas”  ..Maduchandas is recorded as having seen the entire extent of 
the Veda. 
 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/education-news-a.html?art=1178744947286297 
http://www.globalgoodnews.com/education-news-a.html?art=1178744947286297


 “Dirghatamas” ..That means long drawn silence. 
 http://press-conference.globalgoodnews.com/archive/december/04-12-22.html 
http://press-conference.globalgoodnews.com/archive/december/04-12-22.html
 MMY commentary..
 Just this word: potential dynamism. That means it is dynamic in its unmanifest 
state, and it is completely silent in its manifest state. So there is silence; 
there is dynamism. This is the field. We can see it as the basis of creation, 
the silent basis of creation.
 

 And then third,
 Inner silence quiet 

 -JaiGuruYou
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 For some the assembly format of sharing the number one meditational or 
spiritual experience also can serve a means of being seen in an otherwise 
mostly anonymous group (Top-down patriarchal). And of course of human nature 
this can roll over into being of a type of heady specialness for 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, it seems the guy is elsewhere and some people here found out about him by 
word of mouth and the internet and went to his programs. It sounded like he is 
on the West coast. I don’t think he has been to Fairfield. This it seems has 
created some turmoil here and goofed some long time meditators up with his 
influence. Though it all seems a good reflection discerning about what is a 
“number one” spiritual experience along the way.
Interesting too about Cohen. Thanks. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he 
could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga


  
  
 >I was thinking of Andrew Cohen and neo-advaitas you have had on batgap.  You 
 >kind of gave them their ropes to let them hang themselves.. A lot of 
 >spiritual ego by example. 
 I recently took Cohen’s interview down, because I had taken down another two 
interviews by a rather popular Advaita teacher whom we discovered (through 
credible feedback from the victim) had drugged and raped a girl between her 
ages of 14-16 when he was 40ish, back in the early ‘80’s. His students were 
complaining that it was unfair that I had taken him down and left Cohen up. I 
had done so because what Cohen had done wasn’t illegal, and was also well-known 
now. 
  

 >This more recent thing I didn't get the name on.  The people sitting around a 
 >table at Revelations were being real guarded to not get anyone in trouble but 
 >it was an active concern of theirs. I just listened some and asked questions 
 >a little and wrote some notes. It was interesting spiritual satsanga.   -FFL  
 >  
  
 So some guy in FF is engaging in sexual tantra with multiple partners and some 
sort of soul-swapping black magic? That’s what you’re saying?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Who is this?: recently watched Rick Archer let one NPD'ed hang out to dry in 
his Batgap interviews
  
 And this?: From the spiritual sexual tantra kind of encounter with him, this 
scandalous man, this ne'er-do-well, .. takes people around and puts them into 
other people’s bodies.  Bad.  This guy facilitates that, he is like a black 
magician.”
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he 
could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga


  
  More Satanga,  
 “Spiritual egos..They are feeders, they are particular narcissists, they need 
the energy of others for validation. They don’t have much. Their spiritual 
identification is about the ego.  That is the level of their identification 
spiritually. It isn’t Self but it, the identification has sufficient juice. 

 So this guy has the ability to give these people these very flashy experiences
 that have embedded in them extremely pleasurable bliss experiences.
 This is very very bad.  People get excited, people did.  
 So people give themselves over.  By the nature of the bliss experiences people 
start
 abdicating power.  Yikes!” 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 More FF Satsanga this morning:
 

 "Really Maharishi did not prepare us for this. 
 

..Really the only thing was handed out to us as the sheet of the one discourse 
from Guru Dev [Brahmananda Saraswati] about trading a soul for the price of a 
lump of spinach. That was really it and not much was said about that other than 
to say Guru Dev was talking about dabbling in spiritism like in this context." 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ..Maharishi told people to think the mantra at those times. In the old times, 
on India courses his talking with people and about this astral stuff and that 
kind of thing.  Yeah but that did not come down here. He did not teach about 
it.  And we actually have a problem here.  This is something some should know 
about. You got people who are dabbling in this.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Notes.. 
 Q: Does this make sense to these people?  A lot of this is already known.
 A:  “It is hard when you have an incredibly gorgeous thrilling experience 
around this guy, this ‘healer’, and there is part of it that wants more of it.  
 ..But the cost of it is all this other crazy stuff with him and then putting 
themselves back together again.” 

 “All this stuff, this thing in their travels out with this guy, that someone 
was Queen Elizabeth in a past life, so?  Like, what are you doing now?”

 “So a resolution, is going away from it..”
 

 Bhairitu writes:

The process described is like 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Life after a sex cult: 'If I’m not a member of this religion any more, then who am I?'

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

formative communal values

 This is an interesting read to plow through following the life-cycle of their 
group around their
 formative core communal values in mission work, separate from the sex and that 
abuse of power,.. The core mission work it seems has kept a group throughout 
even in its present fragmentation. 

 Condensed:
 "His message was relatively simple, if not terribly original: God would soon 
be returning to Earth to hand down judgment. To avoid His wrath, Berg advised 
his followers, they should live an austere life and abandon all their 
possessions. And they did.

 ..an estimated 120 Children of God communes in 1974,.
 More than three decades later, in 2006, there were over 1,400 communes in more 
than 100 countries,

 The Children of God were to eschew the world. Members lived in large communes, 
typically with four or five families under one roof, as they waited for the 
impending apocalypse. 
 ..he was happy. “I was spiritual in a way that was kind of very obsessive and 
very determined,” he says. ..He’d spend much of his time teaching Bible courses 
and “the New Testament, where there would be the signs of the times and Jesus 
was coming back at the end of them”.

 Berg renamed his movement the Family of Love shortly after the mass suicide at 
Jonestown in 1978, which brought negative media attention to other fringe 
Christian sects. In 2004, the Family changed its name again to the Family 
International.

 In 1993, allegations of sexual abuse finally caught up with Berg.  He fled to 
Portugal, where he died in 1994. Karen Zerby, Berg’s widow, assumed leadership 
of the group, along with her new husband, Steve Kelly.

 ..in 2009, the organization started to crumble. The church disintegrated and 
Young was suddenly forced to forge himself a new life, along with thousands of 
other isolated missionaries who had to assimilate into a society that they had 
long rejected.

 Faced with growing disillusionment among members, trying to stem the flow of 
members out of the movement,
 “They went in the direction of stricter enforcement of the rules first, and 
then when that didn’t work, within a few years, they went in the opposite 
direction.”

 ..the two leaders admitted, they needed to “set goals up to 30 years or even 
farther into the future”.

 they told their followers, ..they needed to worry about financing the care of 
aged Family members and the future of their children.

 known as “the Reboot”. Zerby and Kelly framed it in terms of giving the group 
a fresh start. But to many members, it was devastating.

 The Reboot didn’t seem to affect (some) who were far removed in the mission 
field. They stayed .. and continued on with their work. But most communes 
collapsed.

 “It was a bit disconcerting seeing that other branches were closing down or 
other people, even friends, were deciding that perhaps the missionary work was 
no longer for them,”

 Today, the Family counts only about 2,500 members in some 80 countries.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/11/children-of-god-church-sex-cult-texas-mexico-fbi
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/11/children-of-god-church-sex-cult-texas-mexico-fbi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hmmm...aakaasha and Black Holes??

[marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Lamp at the door?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga

['Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he 
could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga

 

  

>I was thinking of Andrew Cohen and neo-advaitas you have had on batgap.  You 
>kind of gave them their ropes to let them hang themselves.. A lot of spiritual 
>ego by example. 

I recently took Cohen’s interview down, because I had taken down another two 
interviews by a rather popular Advaita teacher whom we discovered (through 
credible feedback from the victim) had drugged and raped a girl between her 
ages of 14-16 when he was 40ish, back in the early ‘80’s. His students were 
complaining that it was unfair that I had taken him down and left Cohen up. I 
had done so because what Cohen had done wasn’t illegal, and was also well-known 
now. 

 

>This more recent thing I didn't get the name on.  The people sitting around a 
>table at Revelations were being real guarded to not get anyone in trouble but 
>it was an active concern of theirs. I was just listened some and asked 
>questions a little and wrote some notes. It was interesting spiritual 
>satsanga.   -FFL

 

So some guy in FF is engaging in sexual tantra with multiple partners and some 
sort of soul-swapping black magic? That’s what you’re saying?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , 
 > wrote :

Who is this?: recently watched Rick Archer let one NPD'ed hang out to dry in 
his Batgap interviews

 

And this?: From the spiritual sexual tantra kind of encounter with him, this 
scandalous man, this ne'er-do-well, .. takes people around and puts them into 
other people’s bodies.  Bad.  This guy facilitates that, he is like a black 
magician.”

 

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:Disordered 'Spiritual' narcissism: 'He said he 
could do what he wanted': the scandal that rocked Bikram yoga

 

 

More from the FF Satsanga, 

“..The obsession with #1 ‘spiritual’ experiences is opening people up to this. 
Consciousness meditation aside, people are looking for 'experiences’.”

 

“..Someone in the Dome was sharing, giving experience about this guy as a  #1 
experience.  From the spiritual sexual tantra kind of encounter with him, this 
scandalous man, this ne'er-do-well, .. takes people around and puts them into 
other people’s bodies.  Bad.  This guy facilitates that, he is like a black 
magician.” 


“On the Humboldt courses, one of Maharishi’s Brahmacharyam came trotting 
directly out into the lecture hall confronting someone..,   “Don’t you ever do 
that!” for crossing over into other people’s minds and thoughts.”



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , 
 > wrote :

As a melting pot or crucible, Fairfield,Iowa has long been a crossroad stop on 
the spiritual circuit that draws seekers, and want-to-be ‘teachers’, lecturers, 
and gurus. 

 

In Conversation more recently of the Fairfield Coffee Haus Satsanga: 

 

“..He says, “I know what I am doing, I am the Guru, I am a master”, very bold,  
 “I am the one, I will help you,  I will do this for you, I do this out of love 
and to inform you.  Let me do this for you.”

 

Apparently he spends so much time in this astral realm that he has real 
difficulty in living. 

 

He has got these people that he engages in with this spiritual sex, it is 
extremely highly charged and errotically charged with these so called unity 
experiences and then he creates this kind of dependency that is predation. He 
is doing it to men and women, there is a part of it that is monstrous.  You can 
see why they felt their only recourse was to shut down.   

 

..When you hear language like that it is time to turn around and look.

 

#



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , 
 > wrote :

The Spiritual Ego,

Unprepared for if and when it occurs, 

it is very seductive someone saying,  “I am a powerful one”, “I can do it for 
you”, and “I am a guru”.

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , 
 > wrote :

Yep, interesting observation about the cultural gap.  A cultural difference for 
Indian Gurus and such coming to the West might be that behavior is not just 
‘karma’ but also judged by or held up to The Golden Rule and the first 
amendment (bill of rights) of the US Constitution, cultural sensibilities about 
ethics and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating in the Dome

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It is way past time to re-draft the national guidelines that regulate 
membership for inclusion in the group meditations.  There are way too many 
“non-compete” clauses that remain in the guidelines, still. Clauses that 
exclude capable meditators from the collective of the group meditations.  It is 
sinful what the Rajas have continued to abide in excluding people. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Just simply reading the published science, it is compelling. 
 A common sense of the statistical fact of the science certainly justifies now 
an immediate change of the membership guidelines for facilitated group 
meditations to directly remediate the hurtful damage that was done to people 
that suppresses still the collective meditation in the United States.  The 
‘fundamental’ problem now in this are the Raja of the corporate culture. By the 
science these Raja of TM should come to be the ones now asking for, demanding, 
change to improve our circumstance of the collective meditation here. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We have a need at hand with the group meditation in the Domes here. More 
recently the numbers were down around 190 in the men’s Dome.  Drs. Hagelin and 
Nader being top-educated western trained scientists are data guys and will make 
these spiritual decisions based on data but they have to work with people to 
get things done.  The fanatics need to step aside on this, ‘recuse’ themselves 
if needs be. It is time. 

 It is time to overrule the fanatics and change the guidelines by extending the 
olive branch of membership back to those who have been separated from the 
movement during this late era of the Patterson-Morris administrative state of 
the USA movement. It is time for the ™ Rajas to collectively step up to the 
problem that was created in the US movement before and expect instead a healthy 
change towards expansion.  
 

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 I get asked all the time by meditating folks in town, “Have they changed?”.

 

 It has been eight years now since Maharishi and it is high time to rectify so 
much damage that was done before under the decades of suppression of the 
Patterson-Morris era. And little has been done by the Rajas to effectively 
acknowledge or remediate the circumstance of the failure of the Dome meditation 
numbers in the United States since. Without attentive action the Rajas 
themselves are sitting on the suppression of Dome meditation numbers.  It is 
quite time for them to come out of meditation on this and get moving on this. 
 


 

 srijau writes, I see your point when you elaborate, otherwise it came across 
as I described.
 

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 Actually the new ™ movement is now a corporate democracy with boards, 
officers, ‘Rajas’ as the likes of corporate exec VP’s, administrators and 
staff.  No one is in a position to rule by decree.  Both Drs. Nader and Hagelin 
towards the apex as trustees have to bring people along, including those people 
around them who are more fanatical maharishi devotionals who do feel they 
personally are fundamentally duty bound to keep things static as they are, 
because ‘Maharishi set things up that way’. 
 Inaction on all their parts at best is continuing suppression of the communal 
Dome meditation numbers. The problem of collective meditation numbers is theirs 
to acknowledge and remediate and they are certainly the problem at this point. 
 



 srijau writes:
 there is no "supression by Rajas" thats childish finger pointing and blame 
gaming extremely noble people who are doing more than anyone to benefit 
humanity.grow up.
 It is mostly in the USA that these kind of policies have been enacted.  
Ultimately one Raja , John Hagelin can change this policy if he wants to.

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 Yep, the collective force of consciousness and its suppression by the Rajas.

 Common sense looking at all the recently published research would dictate an 
immediate gutting of all the “non-compete” clauses embedded in the national 
guidelines over the group meditations facilitated by the TM movement to expand 
membership participation. Right away immediately.  
 

 It would be easier to just directly start over with a new document that is 
more bare and essential to what you need to run and administrate a TM group 
meditation.  Separate and leave all that other 'non-compete’ stuff about 
trademark enforcement over employees to an HR department to enforce with their 
lawyers.
  
 Let practitioners back into the Domes, again. Free the practitioner to 
practice meditation collectively again now.  Those members who could be 
meditators in the group should be freed from the oppression of the Rajas now.
 

 Free the meditators now to meditate together, again!
 

 rajawilliamsmith writes:   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

“..There is a 3 in 10,000 trillion probability that the reductions in the 
homicide rate could simply be due to chance.”
 

 It only takes what?  Evidently only about 2000 people meditating in the same 
place at the same time doing ™ and the ™-sidhi program.
 

 New, solid, published, peer-reviewed research has indicated once again (in 
replication) how meditation can change the world for the better.  -FF Weekly 
Reader
 

 yifuxero writes:

 .
 Personally, I highly recommend doing such things a Yagyas, pujas, group 
meditations, etc; since
 a. I perceive that such performances and rituals radiate Shakti, which can be 
perceived through human physiology.
 b. Such activities have life-supporting effects, so therefore doing more of 
the same would benefit humanity, and has in UNKNOWN ways since karma is 
unfathomable.
 However,
 a. as already pointed out, presenting arguments based on faulty science in an 
attempt to "prove" certain effects have taken place such as lower automobile 
deaths or whatever; is simply unachievable in the context of modern science.
 b. Again, there is no scientific method available apart from subjective human 
perceptions of demonstrating the existence of subtle Shakti to others. This 
would be basically on the same level as attempting to prove the existence of 
higher dimensions.  Such dimensions are hypothesized in the context of string 
theory but as yet there's no evidence for such dimensions.
 c. The effects can't be isolated (say automobile deaths), and neither can the 
causes, since there are countless sources of Shakti in the world influencing 
events continuously.  A scientific study would require that these cause be 
isolated out, measured, and eliminated as possible causes.  Given the countless 
number of Pun dits in India doing pujas, yagyas, as well as householders doing 
pujas every day, one would have to measure these influences and that's 
impossible.
 d. The simplest way to prove the ME would be to first devise a machine that 
can detect Shakti.  Set it up outside or inside the Domes, and measure the 
influence in some units analogous to those in various branches of physics, say 
Watts or Joules.  Next, set up the machine in a control area, perhaps the 
police station, and measure the Shakti as a control.
 

 To conclude, the MUM papers on the ME are complete rubbish since a. no 
controls. b. competing influences are not identified and culled out. c. the 
measurement problem: there is no machine or device outside of the human nervous 
system that can detect and measure the subtle Shakti.  If anything has been 
published so far in any physics journal attesting the existence of such subtle 
Shakti energy, let's see the reference.
 The fact that one cannot prove the existence of the ME or even present the 
case in the context of modern science should not dissuade people from doing it. 
 I agree that the ME has beneficial effects, but such effects can't be 
scientifically measured
 To those promoting group meditation, Yagyas, chanting of mantras, pujas, and 
even ordinary prayers, keep up the good work. You are doing a great service to 
mankind, but are diminishing the credibility of such Sattvic activities by 
claiming that the causes and results are within the domain of scientific 
inquiry.  I agree that modern scientific inquiry is limited in scope, but there 
as yet is no post-modern set of scientific methods. 
 It's fine if one says "the ME has been confirmed by our own post-modern set of 
ad hoc rules"; but not the rules of modern physicists.
 

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 ‘ ..the ‘Not everyone agrees’ defense:  “We don’t know..it is only 
probability, ‘correlation is not causation’, it is not certain, therefore it 
may not exist and it would cost too much to implement or make any change in 
public policy, better we should not do anything until we know for certain, we 
should even stonewall the correlation, fire the messengers if they get too far 
with this!’  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Brilliant. A fine extension of the scientific process (discourse). Thanks. 
I will forward a link to this to higher authorities for their review. 

 yifuxero writes:
 Let's review some hypotheses and assumptions.
 

 1. In regard to "modern" scientific inquiry, we may be in agreement  that such 
methodologies are quite limited in scope, since there are vast bodies of 
phenomena beginning with simple psychic experiences that most people "believe" 
are true based on subjective experiences and the testimonials of others. This 
body of "unproved" phenomena extends into such areas as crop circles, alien 
appearances and abductions, cattle mutilations, Big Foot sightings, etc, and 
ultimately, the ME.
 ...
 2. Most profoundly and of great importance, is the nature of Gnosis 
(Self-knowledge of the Atman leading to complete Brahman realization). We can 
go back to the early Gnostics to see how 

[FairfieldLife] The Power Within the Samadhi Temple of a Guru

[martin.quick...@yahoo.co.uk [FairfieldLife]]

https://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2017/03/12/the-meaning-of-mahasamadhi-or-shine/
 
https://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2017/03/12/the-meaning-of-mahasamadhi-or-shine/

explains about the power, purpose and peace found within the shrine of a 
liberated Guru.
Enjoy ;-)

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] FF meditator memoriam

[Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Have any of these recent people been contributors to FFL?  To anyone’s 
knowledge?

Sal 




On Mar 12, 2017, at 12:13 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:



I think his last name was Wannaman or Wanneman... something like that.


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Karl Wasserman passed away last night.