[FairfieldLife] Re: Henotheism in Hinduism

2017-07-29 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

Deepak Chopra's current writing, which I posted a few weeks ago, may be getting 
into the area of henotheism or derivatives of of it.  His ideas seem be 
evolving into non-traditional concepts, outside the basis of TM or the 
parampara of Shankara.  Perhaps he can explain further his views in his next 
book or editorials.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As I see this, close to Advaita Vedanta but doesn't go far enough into 
Absolute Monism.  But Mahayana Buddhism goes in further in dispensing with the 
idea of "God" altogether.
 From Wikipedia:
 

 Hinduism[edit 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henotheism=edit=3] 
Further information: Hindu views on monotheism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism and History of Hinduism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hinduism
 To what is One They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni,
 and he is heavenly-winged Garutman.
 To what is One, sages give many a title.



— Rigveda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda 1.164.46
 Transl: Klaus Klostermaier 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Klostermaier[12] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-12[13] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-13
 Henotheism was the term used by scholars such as Max Müller 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_M%C3%BCller to describe the theology of Vedic 
religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Vedic_religion.[14] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-max-14[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-taliaferro78-2 Müller noted 
that the hymns of the Rigveda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda, the oldest 
scripture of Hinduism, mention many deities, but praises them successively as 
the "one ultimate, supreme God", alternatively as "one supreme Goddess",[15] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-15 thereby asserting that 
the essence of the deities was unitary (ekam 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekam), and the deities were nothing but 
pluralistic manifestations of the same concept of the divine (God).[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-taliaferro78-2[5] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-alonp370-5[6] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-fahlbusch524-6
 The Vedic era conceptualization of the divine or the One, states Jeaneane 
Fowler, is more abstract than a monotheistic God, it is the Reality behind and 
of the phenomenal universe.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16 The 
Vedic hymns treat it as "limitless, indescribable, absolute principle", thus 
the Vedic divine is something of a panentheism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism rather than simple henotheism.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16 In late 
Vedic era, around the start of Upanishadic age (~800 BCE), theosophical 
speculations emerge that develop concepts which scholars variously call 
nondualism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondualism or monism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monism, as well as forms of non-theism and 
pantheism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16[17] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-17[18] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-18 An example of the 
questioning of the concept of God, in addition to henotheistic hymns found 
therein, are in later portions of the Rigveda, such as the Nasadiya Sukta 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasadiya_Sukta.[19] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-19 Hinduism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism calls the metaphysical absolute concept 
as Brahman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman, incorporating within it the 
transcendent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(religion) and 
immanent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanence reality.[20] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-20[21] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-21[22] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-22 Different schools of 
thought interpret Brahman as either personal 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_god, impersonal or transpersonal. Ishwar 
Chandra Sharma describes it as "Absolute Reality, beyond all dualities of 
existence and non-existence, light and darkness, and of time, space and 
cause."[23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-23
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Henotheism in Hinduism

2017-07-29 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Interesting link, thanks. 

 Reading definitions, it seems coexisting in one movement a henotheistic 
faith-based side of ™ would be pantheists and non-devotee ‘spiritual but not 
religious’ Unified Field practitioners of ™ evidently would be panentheists.  

 Henotheism was the term used by scholars such as Max Müller 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_M%C3%BCllerto describe the theology of Vedic 
religion.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As I see this, close to Advaita Vedanta but doesn't go far enough into 
Absolute Monism.  But Mahayana Buddhism goes in further in dispensing with the 
idea of "God" altogether.
 From Wikipedia:
 

 Hinduism[edit 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henotheism=edit=3] 
Further information: Hindu views on monotheism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism and History of Hinduism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hinduism
 To what is One They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni,
 and he is heavenly-winged Garutman.
 To what is One, sages give many a title.



— Rigveda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda 1.164.46
 Transl: Klaus Klostermaier 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Klostermaier[12] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-12[13] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-13
 Henotheism was the term used by scholars such as Max Müller 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_M%C3%BCller to describe the theology of Vedic 
religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Vedic_religion.[14] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-max-14[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-taliaferro78-2 Müller noted 
that the hymns of the Rigveda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda, the oldest 
scripture of Hinduism, mention many deities, but praises them successively as 
the "one ultimate, supreme God", alternatively as "one supreme Goddess",[15] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-15 thereby asserting that 
the essence of the deities was unitary (ekam 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekam), and the deities were nothing but 
pluralistic manifestations of the same concept of the divine (God).[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-taliaferro78-2[5] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-alonp370-5[6] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-fahlbusch524-6
 The Vedic era conceptualization of the divine or the One, states Jeaneane 
Fowler, is more abstract than a monotheistic God, it is the Reality behind and 
of the phenomenal universe.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16 The 
Vedic hymns treat it as "limitless, indescribable, absolute principle", thus 
the Vedic divine is something of a panentheism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism rather than simple henotheism.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16 In late 
Vedic era, around the start of Upanishadic age (~800 BCE), theosophical 
speculations emerge that develop concepts which scholars variously call 
nondualism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondualism or monism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monism, as well as forms of non-theism and 
pantheism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16[17] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-17[18] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-18 An example of the 
questioning of the concept of God, in addition to henotheistic hymns found 
therein, are in later portions of the Rigveda, such as the Nasadiya Sukta 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasadiya_Sukta.[19] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-19 Hinduism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism calls the metaphysical absolute concept 
as Brahman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman, incorporating within it the 
transcendent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(religion) and 
immanent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanence reality.[20] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-20[21] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-21[22] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-22 Different schools of 
thought interpret Brahman as either personal 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_god, impersonal or transpersonal. Ishwar 
Chandra Sharma describes it as "Absolute Reality, beyond all dualities of 
existence and non-existence, light and darkness, and of time, space and 
cause."[23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-23
 





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[FairfieldLife] Henotheism in Hinduism

2017-07-29 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As I see this, close to Advaita Vedanta but doesn't go far enough into Absolute 
Monism.  But Mahayana Buddhism goes in further in dispensing with the idea of 
"God" altogether.
 From Wikipedia:
 

 Hinduism[edit 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henotheism=edit=3] 
Further information: Hindu views on monotheism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism and History of Hinduism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hinduism
 To what is One They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuna, Agni,
 and he is heavenly-winged Garutman.
 To what is One, sages give many a title.



— Rigveda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda 1.164.46
 Transl: Klaus Klostermaier 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Klostermaier[12] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-12[13] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-13
 Henotheism was the term used by scholars such as Max Müller 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_M%C3%BCller to describe the theology of Vedic 
religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Vedic_religion.[14] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-max-14[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-taliaferro78-2 Müller noted 
that the hymns of the Rigveda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda, the oldest 
scripture of Hinduism, mention many deities, but praises them successively as 
the "one ultimate, supreme God", alternatively as "one supreme Goddess",[15] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-15 thereby asserting that 
the essence of the deities was unitary (ekam 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekam), and the deities were nothing but 
pluralistic manifestations of the same concept of the divine (God).[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-taliaferro78-2[5] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-alonp370-5[6] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-fahlbusch524-6
 The Vedic era conceptualization of the divine or the One, states Jeaneane 
Fowler, is more abstract than a monotheistic God, it is the Reality behind and 
of the phenomenal universe.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16 The 
Vedic hymns treat it as "limitless, indescribable, absolute principle", thus 
the Vedic divine is something of a panentheism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism rather than simple henotheism.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16 In late 
Vedic era, around the start of Upanishadic age (~800 BCE), theosophical 
speculations emerge that develop concepts which scholars variously call 
nondualism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondualism or monism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monism, as well as forms of non-theism and 
pantheism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism.[16] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-jeaneanefowler43-16[17] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-17[18] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-18 An example of the 
questioning of the concept of God, in addition to henotheistic hymns found 
therein, are in later portions of the Rigveda, such as the Nasadiya Sukta 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasadiya_Sukta.[19] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-19 Hinduism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism calls the metaphysical absolute concept 
as Brahman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman, incorporating within it the 
transcendent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(religion) and 
immanent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanence reality.[20] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-20[21] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-21[22] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-22 Different schools of 
thought interpret Brahman as either personal 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_god, impersonal or transpersonal. Ishwar 
Chandra Sharma describes it as "Absolute Reality, beyond all dualities of 
existence and non-existence, light and darkness, and of time, space and 
cause."[23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#cite_note-23
 



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