[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita

2006-04-14 Thread brahmachari108


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108
 brahmachari108@ wrote:
snip
  This statement is indicative of the Kali Yuga,  Where righteousness
 is considered 
  unrighteous and unrighteousness is taken for Truth.
  Lazy.
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You have it wrong way round Brahmachari, striving is Kali-Yuga,
 effortless awareness is Sat-Yuga. See here (not the words easy,
 effortless, natural, relaxed):
 
snip

Last I heard Lord Krishna's incarnation ended a bit over 5000 years ago. Isn't 
that the 
harbinger of Kali Yuga? How many hundreds of thousands of years until this yuga 
ends 
and another round starts with Krita Yuga? 

To think any other yuga is happening sounds like major mood making.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavata purana or Willytex's declaration of ignorance

2006-04-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 brahmachari108 wrote:
  Yes, it says they go to hell.
 
 Except there is no such thing as the 'Bhagavata' - you probably meant
 the Srimad Bhagwatam or the Bhagavad Gita. Some pundits you two turned
 out to be!


Have you ever before displayed your arrogance and ignorance so well at the same 
time?

Do a Google search on Bhagavata and see what shows up.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita

2006-04-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
 
   Allow Sri Bhagavan to have the last word on this question: There
  must be human effort to
   discard them [vasanas]how could God be expected to be favourable
  towards you
   without your striving for it' [Letters pg 151].
 
 Striving being very non-satsang and non-advaitan, per trinity in recent
 posts.
 
 Desire /striving to end the cycle of desire is ironic, if not funny,
 if not -- at some point -- not productive, I


This statement is indicative of the Kali Yuga,  Where righteousness is 
considered 
unrighteous and unrighteousness is taken for Truth.
Lazy.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: WHO IS GAYATRI ?

2006-04-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ankur Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WHO IS GAYATRI ?

   GAYATRI A CONFLUENCE OF MANY STREAMS..


Beautiful, thanks for posting



   Dear brothers and sisters,

   I tried to present few excerpts from an online  rich library...where is an 
 library of 
spiritual books that meet the raising needs of  21st century.

   http://www.awgp.org/gamma/LiteratureEnglish

   1. Gayatri is known as Adya Shakti, because Brahma who was borm from the 
 Navel 
Lotus of Vishnu was directed to take support of Gayatri Maha Mantra for 
   creation. Brahma worshipped it and performed tap and brought forth all 
 animate 
   and inabimate creation.

   2. Gayatri is defined as Vedmata-the genesis of all Vedas. The four Vedas 
 -Rik, Yaju, 
Sama and Atharva and hence all streams of knowledge are said to have originated 
from 
Gayatri.

   3. Gayatri is referred in the scriptures as Amrat, Paras and Kalpavriksha, 
   because it bestows the necter of spirituality, illuminates the inner self 
 of 
   every devotee with divine glow and fulfils all righteous desires.

   4. Gayatri is the source of all the PARA: Manifested in the tangible world 
 and 
   APARA: subtle branches of absolute knowledge.

   5. The Chhandogya Upanishad states GAYATRI VA IDAM SARVA BHUTAM YADIDAM 
KINCHA implying that the entire universe is a reflection of Gayatri Power.

   6. Gayatri represents the limitless Brahma, eternal, omnipresent, absolute 
   existence of Thy Consciousness Force.

   7. Gayatri represents the deity of time, knowledge, pure intellect, prudent 
   foresight, creatuib, progress, welfare which is described in most of the 
 Indian 
   Scriptures.

   8. Gayatri symbolize the Five Sheaths (Pancha Kosha): Body Cell, Life Cell, 
 Mind Cell, 
Knowledge Cell, and Beautidious bliss Cell. of the consciousness force of five 
realms of its 
different manifestations and expansion.

   9. LORD KRISHNA has identified himself as GAYATRI CHANDASAMHAM, in the 
Bhagawat Gita (Verse-35: Chapter-10, Analysis of Gayatri in Vibhuti Yoga); 
   meaning to say amongest the poetic components I am the supreme Gayatri.

   10. Gayatri is the origin of all the spiritual , conscious, unconscious, 
 and super 
conscious faculties, cosmic energy and material existance. The cosmic power of 
Gayatri 
used for the creation and perceptible realization of this universe and named as 
SAVITRI.

   11. The Science of Gayatri aims at the collective awakening of the 
 righteous intellect, 
divine sentiments, altruist creativity and eminence. The Science of Savitri 
deals with the 
origin and proper utilization of matter and energy.

   12. GAYATRI IS :(1) Essence of Knowledge supreme.
   (2) Fountainhead of wisdom and talents.
   (3) Eternal absolute.
   (4) Deliver of souls from the cycles of birth and death.  (Gayam 
 trayate eti 
Gayatri).
   (5) Giver of wholeness, revealer of Vedas.
   (6) The pure sublime soul.
   (7) Adorable spirit of the yogis.

 
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita

2006-04-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita
 Alan Jacobs


snip
 
 Allow Sri Bhagavan to have the last word on this question: There must be 
 human effort 
to 
 discard them [vasanas]how could God be expected to be favourable towards 
 you 
 without your striving for it' [Letters pg 151].

This posting hits it right on, IMHO.

This reminded me of a recent post about Vedantic thinking; and I searched here 
to find it. 
#92260 posted by hanumanhoffman9 where his guru goes deep into this.
Good stuff to counter Kali Yuga thinking.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-05 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote:
 
  anon_astute_ff wrote:
   Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such?
  
  Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational
  expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's names
  carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in
  India to give money to your guru for instruction.
   
   They would go to hell.
  
  Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules.
  
   What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper?
  
  Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the puja
  to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down
  before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all
  cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath -
  some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition.
  It's SOP for devotees.
 
 If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says about one 
 who sells 
this 
 secret knowledge.


Yes, it says they go to hell.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report

2006-04-05 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote:
 
  anon_astute_ff wrote:
   If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh 
   know this information?
  
  By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then
  studying with his master for thirteen years?
  
   Does his name contain Saraswati?
  
  Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru
  Dev. Not to mention his given name, Mahesh, which means Shiva Yogi.
  But Mahesh doesn't need any names at all really - a Maharishi dwarfs
  any epithets given to most others. But I suspect that the reason
  Mahesh isn't a Saraswati is that a person has to join the recluse
  order founded by Shankaracharya before the surname Saraswati is used.
  Mahesh didn't want to join the Order - Swamis suffer, Yogis enjoy.
 
 Would a real Maharishi goes into business?
 Would one say give me a million to sit in another room and watch me on TV?
 There is no Maharishi in TMO.


Doesn't caste determine eligibility? How would an orthodox Shankaracharya like 
Brahmananda Saraswati waver from that?
Ksatriya's go into business. Sure he may have gained realization from his 
devotion, but to 
assume he was privy to Sri Vidya knowledge doesn't add up. He wasn't brahmin 
and it has 
been suggested that mahesh's caste may not have even been that.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 5 stars!

2006-04-03 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   If the Translations for the remaining chapters exist, Why Can't the 
 TM-org publish 
it.?

   Maharishi in the beginning of the Gita translation said that, each 
 sloka in the Gita 
has to be interperted from the view-point of the 6 systems and 4 states of 
consciousness, 
which means there are 24 valid commentaries for each sloka of Gita.  Maharishi 
himself 
has not written any commentary like that apart from that first sloka.
   

Would it seem likely, given the parameters stated above, that NOBODY in that 
movement is 
qualifed?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan

2006-03-27 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a friend: 
 Dear Rick
 snip
  but we must remember
 that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility towards
 the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That may mean that M
 instantly dissolves any successful venture a disciple sets up if that
 disciple has any ego involved. 

What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for 30 years makes a 
maharishi?
a spiritual master? Who has gained enlightenment from his 5-7 year program?

What responsibility has ever been shown?
Is asking for your money an example of this?

What disciples?
Kali yug









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Phase to say when someone is dying

2006-03-24 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From a friend. Anyone know the answer to this?:
 
 I've heard that there is some phrase that helps someone passing  on.that
 is to be whispered to them as they pass.  Do you know  of this?

Having a notion that you know what is best to say to someone upon their passing 
is such 
arrogant thinking. (albeit innocent) Not surprising attitudes coming from a 
bastardized 
version of what Adi Shankara began long ago. Being told we knew everything in 
order to 
give some innocent fool enlightentment. It's to be expected in this kali age 
that this type 
of thinking would develop into believing we know what sounds should be the last 
that 
some poor soul should hear.

Does anyone here really believe they know what is best for another's journey?

Can you imagine the karmic ramifications of such an act? Who would want to 
incur such?

Is it not best to chant names of the Lord for yourself, praying for their well 
being, leaving 
it up to God?

Om Shanti








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Raajas and Sanskrit

2006-02-08 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  Maharishi Channel:
  
  raajas seem to have learned lots of Sanskrit
  expressions; some of them are still slightly
  struggling with their pronunciation...
 
 
 
 WHo gets to decide how to pronounce a thousands of years dead language?
 
 Gypsies?

What dead language? 
True Maharishi's know how to pronounce this universal language.
Not just the first line of Rig Veda.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: ladies servicing ladies on Mother Divine

2006-02-08 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Many men over the year, Purushniks, would take their leaves,
 ostensibly to visit family or take care of business (or whatever) only
 to stop off and have sex with their non-girlfriend girfriends.
 Occasionally you hear ripples of homosexual activities on Purusha. 
 
 What about on MD. DO you think that any of these women serving other
 women on MD might be servicing their bosses in this fashion.
 
 Kinda like MD Bondage Parlors?


Imagine the red face on the red haired Purushnic and MD'er I ran into in the 
Bahamas 
about ten years ago.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proper pronunciation of Buddha

2006-01-30 Thread brahmachari108
Venture to say that anyone referring to him as Maharishi doesn't know what a 
Maharishi is.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  BOO-DA-HAH
  
  And you can determine the state of consciousness of
  the speaker by 
  how he pronounces Buddha.  If he just says BUHDAH
  -- as he would 
  BUTTER but with Ds instead of Ts and dropping
  the R -- then he 
  is of low consciousness. If he says it with the
  three syllables 
  distinctly enunciated -- BOO-DA-HAH -- then he is,
  of course, very 
  highly evolved.  Throw in an East-Asian accept and
  say it very 
  quickly then you're probably an Avatar.
  
  It's like in the TM Movement: if you say
  MA-HA-Ri-SHI you are lowly 
  evolved and should just be cleaning the floors of
  your local 
  center.  But...if you pronounce it MA-HAR-SHI then
  you are, of 
  course, a long-time TMer who is personally close to
  and beloved of 
  MMY and you are highly evolved.
  
  There are exceptions of course.  Notably, Charlie
  Lutes.  Not only 
  did Charlie pronouce it MA-HA-RI-SHI, the
  son-of-a-gun threw in the 
  article, to boot!  Charlie always referred to him as
  THE MA-HA-RI-
  SHI which gave him a good-ole-boy rep who could
  still go into any 
  board room in America and slap the back of any
  stogie-totin' CEO 
  and, in the same breath, tell them he was now going
  to go off and 
  close his eyes and silently repeat a mantra.
 
 SSRS is in the lineage of Charlie. He calls MMY, the
 Maha rishi
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] away

2005-12-19 Thread brahmachari108
Been away for awhile, I have.
Amazing posts there have been.
Worthwhile use of time, most not.
Different useful perspectives offered, some were.

Peace to be enjoyed this holiday season, I hope you do.







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[FairfieldLife] Guru empowered mantras (was Re: TMO as a valid employer)

2005-12-19 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At one time I would have believed this but I have serious doubts at 
 this point. It would certainly be to the advantage of a guru (or all 
 gurus) to propagate this belief: this way you can always be beholden 
 to the guru. 

Such a misunderstanding of guru, you have.
something worthy of eternal gratitude, useless you think.
Results of following a wolf in sheep's clothing, it is.
Losing faith? Do not.









 
  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  
  Without the shakti of the guru, a mantra, while having
  some effects, will not produce them same effect as a
  mantra that has been charged with shakti. MMY even
  mentioned this once when asked if people who read one
  of the TM mantras from a newspaper and start to
  meditate with it would experience any benefits. He
  said they would, but it would be very slow. 
  
  
  
   
   
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 most of the stuff being posted ad nauseum here on FFLife?
 
 every day, over and over, the same issues for years now.
 
 more than that, folks, for example, *sparaig (sorry to pick on you
 but...) has to comment on every single other comment that everyone has
 also commented on.   Sometimes long lines of posts/e-mails are from
 spairaig and most of them say little to nothing.


Brought this up some time ago, I did.
Think they know something, they do.
Fallout from TMO ego building, I think.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
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snip
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/79669
 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/79672
 
 So there.


Infantile crap...A waste...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread brahmachari108

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 
  Infantile crap...A waste...
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At least I took out all the extra blank lines before I responded with 
 one line...


As I said.Infantile one-up-manship.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi is Hanuman - Frank Lotz

2005-11-21 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, Maharish cannot be Hanuman as my old friend, Russell (Rusty)
 Hoffman is now Hanuman Hoffman.  They'll have to fight over it in court.
 
 
 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip

Formerly known as Rusty Hoffman, knew him then..I did.
Puts forth good referencing posts here..Hanuman does.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Lalitha Sahasranam posted on-line

2005-11-15 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 I have some recordings of Lalith Sahasranam which I will post on
 www.puja.net so anyone who wants them can download for free.  I think

 Interestingly enough the site where Agastya-rishi was given this
 knowledge by Varaha is the Varadaraja Temple in Kanchipuram southeast
 of Madras. 

Conflicting information here. You suggest Varaha (Vishnu's avatara as Boar) is 
the one who 
gave to Rishi Agastya. 
Another poster says Hayagriva (Horse avatara) presented it to Agastya.

Where do you get your information?

Upon diligent searching, no where is Varaha connected. 
Hayagriva is noted as the channel for this knowledge of Lalita Sahasranama.

http://www.factbites.com/topics/Lalitha-Sahasranama

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Lalitha+sahasranama

BTW: accuracy not in question.. but impossible for an inexperienced one to 
follow...the 
chanting mP3 you posted is.










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[FairfieldLife] Anybody visited major Temples in India?

2005-11-15 Thread brahmachari108
Greetings,

Wondering if anybody has visited major temples or done yagyas in India and what 
experiences were?

Jai Guru Deva





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  --- brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  snip
  
   
   Reading your words and most others on their
   proclamations betrays the level of so called 
   enlightenment.
   Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
   he would feel the need to tell 
   others? What other exists in enlightenment?
   If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this
   need?
 
 
 Are you speaking from personal experience? or from your understanding 
 of what the behavior of enlightened people looks like?


Who can know what the behavior of enlightened people looks like?
 TMO has perpetuated dangerous notions that have led to many thinking they know 
how it 
should look, both inner and outer.
Digging out of 35 years of experience in that organization that has now become 
a dark 
hole of desperation.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
snip
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

  Seriously.how does anyone ever know???

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life 
 is 
   one 
 long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and 
 over 
 again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby 
 we 
 recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the 
 limitations 
 that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger 
 than we 
 ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. 
 
 It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' 
 because 
   the 
 common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is 
   that we 
 *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds 
 are 
   built 
 typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, 
 grab 
   what 
 you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited 
 beings.
 
 So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our 
 assumed 
 limitations, and become free, we are said to then 
   be 'enlightened'. 
 But it is merely relative to what our past experience has 
 been. 
   In 
 reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an 
 evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, 
   around 
 which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability.
 
 On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a 
 milestone of 
 growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from 
 the 
 achievements we have achieved all of our lives.
 
 Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective 
   experience 
 both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, 
 responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable 
   qualities. 
 It both encompasses and transforms the human experience.
 
 And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is 
 reached, 
   life 
 goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements 
 continue, 
   and 
 one day we will look a long way back and realize 
 that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, 
 is 
   not so 
 relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening 
 has 
 faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite 
 relative, or 
   the 
 significant achievement of learning to walk as a young 
 child. 
 
 Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another 
   enlightenment 
 beckons...


Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with 
 the 
   Truth of it?
Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to 
 let 
   others know what their 
thinking is on enlightenment.
   
   What is your thinking on it?
  
  What good is it to think on it? 
  

Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of 
   enlightenment.
   
   Is that all you can do because you are 'brahmachari'-- *mental* 
   masturbation?
  
  I don't do sex in any fashion. Mental or otherwise.
  Brahmachari definition is not limited to sex.
  Truth.
  
   
TMO fallout.EGO.
   
   So you've had bad experiences with the TMO?
  
  No, I had good experiences at the time, but found out these 
 experiences really didn't 
  provide Truth nor enlightenment.
  No regrets.
  
   
Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the 
   proferring itself betrays.
   
   What are you talking about?
  
  Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays 
 the level of so called 
  enlightenment.
  Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel 
 the need to tell 
  others? What other exists in enlightenment?
  If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need?
  

Just a few in this group actually contribute references within 
   their paths of practice without 
the personal commentary of what they think they know.

More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be 
 if 
   more of such 
contributions were posted.
   
   What is the mission of this group, as you see it?
  
  It's obvious that garrulity rules.
  Let me tell you what I think...EGO may not be the mission but it 
 appears clearly.
  A place for worthless banter on subjects equally worthless from a 
 group of supposedly 
  spiritually advanced practitioners.
  
  Save for a few gems.
  

Worthless as well, this post.
   
   To each his own...
  
  Indeed.
  
  What do I know.
  
  Nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Peter wrote:
 
 
 
  --- brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  snip
 
 
 
  Reading your words and most others on their
  proclamations betrays the level of so called
  enlightenment.
  Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
  he would feel the need to tell
  others? What other exists in enlightenment?
  If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this
  need?
 
 
  The incentive to act is the same in the enlightened as
  well as the unenlightened. Just that the unenlightened
  think that they do it. The enlightened know that
  nobody does anything. It just happens like the rising
  and setting of the sun. But this understanding is
  utterly useless for the dharma of waking state, that's
  for sure!
 
 The enlightened know that?
 
 Bumper sticker I'd like to see:
 
 Narcissus loves me.

Beautiful






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a 
 suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is 
 probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our 
 universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, 
 whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the 
 dynamic of our Universe.
 
 Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just 
 such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth-
 like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved 
 planets, just ones like this.


Reading Markandeya Purana, the Bhagavatam, Mahabharata you can find out all the 
different worlds that exist, have existed, and will exist. Where they exist, 
why they exist, 
what and whom exists in them.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-07 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Are you and I even all that different?
  
  
  We are One but we are quite different.
 
 Explain please?


Sorry, I just don't spend each day sitting at my computer looking at what is 
being said 
here and wondering what to say. 
I don't doubt your sincerity and the love you display in your posts.

Peace.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Maharishi's Comments on Mahalakshmi

2005-11-01 Thread brahmachari108
Beautiful comments, I think not. 
Contributing to the incestuous knowledge base m.y. is.
Fullness of Emptiness, Emptiness of Fullness...beautiful?
How do we get Her? Empty words without application.
Maha Lakshmi acheived with such lack of Love? Doubt it.

closer to the mark msg 77884 from that hanuman guy is Beautiful as 
Maha Lakshmi is.

Happy Diwali




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
  
 

 ---
 
 The following is reported to be Maharishi's beautiful comments on
 Mahalakshmi ... very timely for this auspicious occasion...
  
 HAPPY MAHALAKSHMI PUJA -- DIPAVALI - DIWALI !
 
 =
 
 ... Maha Lakshmi ... the first syllable is Maha. Maha, great. And this great
 in the context of education is the characteristic of consciousness.
 
 This Maha is the goal of anyone who is not yet Maha. So, Maha goal is the
 meaning of the word Laksha... Laksha means the goal (Maha means unbounded,
 infinite, immortal, eternal, Brahm, Totality, whole).
 
 Maha is the goal of that which is not Maha. The goal of Maha is to swing in
 his greatness. It should be a living reality.
 
 That the unbounded does not remain only silent. But in that silence, there
 should be lively all possibilities. So, the Laksha, the goal, the goal of
 Maha is to have many in its unified wholeness.
 
 And the goal of that what is not Maha, the goal of small is to be big and
 the goal of big is to swing in its own expressions.
 Infinity wants to flow from one end of infinity to the other end of infinity
 and it's flowing, it divides itself, it quantifies itself, it qualifies
 itself.
 
 So it is the qualification which makes one look to the goal. Small wants to
 qualify itself into as big as possible. The big wants to qualify itself as
 the field of all possibilities from this end to that end.
 Maha is a goal and MI is a very, very significant word which is made of two
 values, MA and I. When we look to MA, naturally it is me, the first to the
 self, ME, even in English me, but in the Vedic terminology MI we understand
 as total value of all four Vedas. MA, what MA is, it's the HUM, Hummm.
 
 Agnim-m-m. Rig, Yajur, Sama, Atharva. Then Atharva is a Hum. Hum of all the
 four Vedas... Agni, it s a collapse of all the progression of all the Vedas
 into a Hum.
 
 Hum means the total values of all sounds; all sounds are inherent in Hum.
 And in that Hum which is focused on a point, that reality of the point is
 then transformed into dynamism, which is represented by I.
 
 So, Maha Lakshmi this is the total Veda, concentrated into the Hum and made
 dynamism. Here is concentration at a point, which then in its nature is all
 dynamism.
 
 So, in the word Maha Lakshmi we have that enormous, unbounded, total,
 infinite, eternal immortality expressed in all the Vedas and found located
 in a point.
 And then expanding a point in infinity, and dynamism again into Maha. So,
 here is the total expression of the Veda, total expression of pure
 knowledge.
 
 Along with its infinite organising power in one point concentrating and
 expanding. This point value, this is Maha Lakshmi...
 
 So, the element of Maha Lakshmi is a composite of two values of opposite
 directions. Focal point and expanding in its nature, this is called
 Anyonyabhava.
 
 It has two kinds of directions, coming in, expanding and going out... So,
 the Laksha, the goal of expanding value is to concentrate.
 
 The goal of concentrated value is to expand. And here is the seed of Maha.
 This is Maha Lakshmi, at the point, which is both, expansion and
 contraction, infinite potential of the expansion element we could see along
 with infinite expansion of contraction element.
 
 That means no matter where the situation is, there is all possibility, no
 matter at what level we are considering or at any level of contraction or at
 any level of expansion, here or here, at any level is Maha Lakshmi.
 
 There is a field of all possibilities and the field of all possibilities in
 each cell is a concentrated point of silence within the quality of infinite
 dynamism. Silence and dynamism, that means completely fulfilled of
 wakefulness.
 
 Completely fulfilled because it is not devoid of anything. Infinite silence
 concentrated, infinite dynamism concentrated and therefore it is eternal
 state of fulfilment.
 
 It is a fulfilment of eternal value. Fulfilment of immortal value because
 there is a field of all possibilities and in this field of all possibilities
 is the element of fulfilment, infinite bliss.
 
 Infinite bliss is a quality of fulfilment and fulfilment the quality of lack
 of lack. Devoid of nothingness.
 
 It is all fullness, completely fulfilled, self-sufficient infinity,
 eternity, capable of flowing in terms of waves, modified, qualified and
 still remaining unqualified at all time.
 
 Unqualified qualified fulfilment, that means it 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-11-01 Thread brahmachari108


  
   Objectively?
   
   I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi.
   
   I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner
   repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled
   manner, chances are this person is CC or above.


   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Horse crap.
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 How so?

Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi. 
Where in Veda are these mentioned?
What is above or below in the state of Turiya?










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..

2005-11-01 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  snip
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
  
Seriously.how does anyone ever know???
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is 
 one 
   long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and over 
   again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby we 
   recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the limitations 
   that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger than we 
   ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. 
   
   It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' because 
 the 
   common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is 
 that we 
   *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds are 
 built 
   typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, grab 
 what 
   you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited beings.
   
   So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed 
   limitations, and become free, we are said to then 
 be 'enlightened'. 
   But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been. 
 In 
   reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an 
   evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, 
 around 
   which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability.
   
   On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a milestone of 
   growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from the 
   achievements we have achieved all of our lives.
   
   Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective 
 experience 
   both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, 
   responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable 
 qualities. 
   It both encompasses and transforms the human experience.
   
   And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, 
 life 
   goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, 
 and 
   one day we will look a long way back and realize 
   that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, is 
 not so 
   relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening has 
   faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite relative, or 
 the 
   significant achievement of learning to walk as a young child. 
   
   Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another 
 enlightenment 
   beckons...
  
  
  Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the 
 Truth of it?
  Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to let 
 others know what their 
  thinking is on enlightenment.
 
 What is your thinking on it?

What good is it to think on it? 

  
  Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of 
 enlightenment.
 
 Is that all you can do because you are 'brahmachari'-- *mental* 
 masturbation?

I don't do sex in any fashion. Mental or otherwise.
Brahmachari definition is not limited to sex.
Truth.

 
  TMO fallout.EGO.
 
 So you've had bad experiences with the TMO?

No, I had good experiences at the time, but found out these experiences 
really didn't 
provide Truth nor enlightenment.
No regrets.

 
  Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the 
 proferring itself betrays.
 
 What are you talking about?

Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays the level of 
so called 
enlightenment.
Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel the need to 
tell 
others? What other exists in enlightenment?
If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need?

  
  Just a few in this group actually contribute references within 
 their paths of practice without 
  the personal commentary of what they think they know.
  
  More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be if 
 more of such 
  contributions were posted.
 
 What is the mission of this group, as you see it?

It's obvious that garrulity rules.
Let me tell you what I think...EGO may not be the mission but it appears 
clearly.
A place for worthless banter on subjects equally worthless from a group of 
supposedly 
spiritually advanced practitioners.

Save for a few gems.

  
  Worthless as well, this post.
 
 To each his own...

Indeed.

What do I know.

Nothing personal...

Peace.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Any decent books on Vedic knowledge in TMO

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was just wondering lately if any decent books have been written and 
 published on Vedic knowledge lately.  
snip
 It just seems to me I can't find many books at any bookstore by anyone 
 associated with the TMO that are really informative and deep that 
 concern the Vedas.  The only thing available is the BG, Science of 
 Being/AOL, and a few of those invincible defense, ideal education 
 books, etc...

Attempts failed. What is ideal about the state of MUM and the TMO?
 
 Have any graduates of MIU/MUM written any really good books concerning 
 Vedic Knowledge lately that anyone here knows of? 
snip

 Or perhaps i'm just not noticing how advanced the Vedic Knowledge is 
 because i'm not able to attend Bevan and John's lectures anymore???
 
 Is this the case, or do others see the same problem?

Perhaps it's not a problem, since nobody truly knows from their Ideal education 
on a 
subject that has already stood the test of time. 
Thankful we should be, that nobody else is trying to perpetuate a novel idea on 
the most 
ancient subject of Veda.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actions of enlightened beings, such speculation by the ignorant.
  
  fly off the handle at the most (seemingly) minimal transgression 
  and curse others, the 
  greatest rishis of ancient lore would.
  
  wailing at his loss of Sita, Rama would be seen 
  He killed. As did Krishna.
  Actions of an enlightened one, Would someone looking from a 
  distance think these such?
  
  fleecing his flocks.. mmy does
  
  clearly seeing from the Sahasranama chakra down through the 
  sushumna to the 
  Muladhara, is the one who can determine.
  
  Puppets we are... wanting to know.
 
 While there is some truth in what you say, do
 you really think that a guy who talks like
 Yoda is in any position to rag on puppets?  
 Silly it is.  :-)


Win...you do. No...yo dew, what can a puppet do?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  I know and have read about several people who
  suffered traumatic accidents
  that appear to have kicked them into a more
  enlightened state.
 
 Some people believe walk-ins exchange places at those
 times and that's the reason why the individual feels
 so different. 

Sounded differently, acted differently...after near death in London didn't MMY?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
  was enlightened, so there.
  
  
  
   
  
  Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached
 enlightenment? 
  
  It's a lot like someone informing you of a past life you don't
 remember; or
  getting the gas bill:
  
   
  
  Okeedoke, I'll take your word for it lol
  
   
  
  Seriously.how does anyone ever know???
 
 Objectively?
 
 I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi.
 
 I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner
 repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled
 manner, chances are this person is CC or above.

Horse crap.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-13 Thread brahmachari108
snip
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

  Seriously.how does anyone ever know???

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is one 
 long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and over 
 again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby we 
 recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the limitations 
 that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger than we 
 ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. 
 
 It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' because the 
 common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is that we 
 *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds are built 
 typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, grab what 
 you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited beings.
 
 So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed 
 limitations, and become free, we are said to then be 'enlightened'. 
 But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been. In 
 reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an 
 evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, around 
 which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability.
 
 On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a milestone of 
 growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from the 
 achievements we have achieved all of our lives.
 
 Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective experience 
 both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, 
 responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable qualities. 
 It both encompasses and transforms the human experience.
 
 And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life 
 goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, and 
 one day we will look a long way back and realize 
 that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, is not so 
 relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening has 
 faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite relative, or the 
 significant achievement of learning to walk as a young child. 
 
 Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another enlightenment 
 beckons...


Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the Truth of it?
Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to let others know 
what their 
thinking is on enlightenment. 

Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of enlightenment.
TMO fallout.EGO.
Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the proferring itself 
betrays.

Just a few in this group actually contribute references within their paths of 
practice without 
the personal commentary of what they think they know.

More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be if more of such 
contributions were posted.

Worthless as well, this post.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...

2005-10-12 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LOTS OF Premature deaths by my calculations and of longtime dedicated 
 TMO participants

This notion of premature and untimely death in a group so filled with the 
enlightened.

When someone's time is up is the only time death comes, so how is that untimely?

karma






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[FairfieldLife] Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best

2005-10-12 Thread brahmachari108
Actions of enlightened beings, such speculation by the ignorant.

fly off the handle at the most (seemingly) minimal transgression and curse 
others, the 
greatest rishis of ancient lore would.

wailing at his loss of Sita, Rama would be seen 
He killed. As did Krishna.
Actions of an enlightened one, Would someone looking from a distance think 
these such?

fleecing his flocks.. mmy does

clearly seeing from the Sahasranama chakra down through the sushumna to the 
Muladhara, is the one who can determine.

Puppets we are... wanting to know.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members

2005-10-12 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   
In case you didnĀ¹t notice, our membership now stands at 1,000.
   
   Although a few of us prefer to sit when interfacing
   with the group.
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 All of the above.


Hands on the board, standing or sitting.
so much time spent composing smart replies
Serious mental masturbation..it is.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus

2005-10-06 Thread brahmachari108
  These Maharishi Peace Palaces are a profound gift from
Maharishi
  The Maharishi Peace Palaces will be financed through donations
and
  the sale of interest-bearing World Peace Bonds.

How is it a gift when financed by those who are supposedly the recipients?

Is this the profundity of it?

Kali Yuga shining brightly, huh?

Stupid ignorant people.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Names/Purification(s) of Forces of Nature...'

2005-08-30 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have found these to be helpful, in my practice.
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   So, that the Light of God shines;
  
 More brightly on Earth.
  
 Jai Guru Devam Namah OM
  
   Copyright2005  Robert Gimbel


You can copyright these mantras?






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