[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 brahmachari108@ wrote: snip This statement is indicative of the Kali Yuga, Where righteousness is considered unrighteous and unrighteousness is taken for Truth. Lazy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have it wrong way round Brahmachari, striving is Kali-Yuga, effortless awareness is Sat-Yuga. See here (not the words easy, effortless, natural, relaxed): snip Last I heard Lord Krishna's incarnation ended a bit over 5000 years ago. Isn't that the harbinger of Kali Yuga? How many hundreds of thousands of years until this yuga ends and another round starts with Krita Yuga? To think any other yuga is happening sounds like major mood making. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bhagavata purana or Willytex's declaration of ignorance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brahmachari108 wrote: Yes, it says they go to hell. Except there is no such thing as the 'Bhagavata' - you probably meant the Srimad Bhagwatam or the Bhagavad Gita. Some pundits you two turned out to be! Have you ever before displayed your arrogance and ignorance so well at the same time? Do a Google search on Bhagavata and see what shows up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Allow Sri Bhagavan to have the last word on this question: There must be human effort to discard them [vasanas]how could God be expected to be favourable towards you without your striving for it' [Letters pg 151]. Striving being very non-satsang and non-advaitan, per trinity in recent posts. Desire /striving to end the cycle of desire is ironic, if not funny, if not -- at some point -- not productive, I This statement is indicative of the Kali Yuga, Where righteousness is considered unrighteous and unrighteousness is taken for Truth. Lazy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHO IS GAYATRI ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ankur Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHO IS GAYATRI ? GAYATRI A CONFLUENCE OF MANY STREAMS.. Beautiful, thanks for posting Dear brothers and sisters, I tried to present few excerpts from an online rich library...where is an library of spiritual books that meet the raising needs of 21st century. http://www.awgp.org/gamma/LiteratureEnglish 1. Gayatri is known as Adya Shakti, because Brahma who was borm from the Navel Lotus of Vishnu was directed to take support of Gayatri Maha Mantra for creation. Brahma worshipped it and performed tap and brought forth all animate and inabimate creation. 2. Gayatri is defined as Vedmata-the genesis of all Vedas. The four Vedas -Rik, Yaju, Sama and Atharva and hence all streams of knowledge are said to have originated from Gayatri. 3. Gayatri is referred in the scriptures as Amrat, Paras and Kalpavriksha, because it bestows the necter of spirituality, illuminates the inner self of every devotee with divine glow and fulfils all righteous desires. 4. Gayatri is the source of all the PARA: Manifested in the tangible world and APARA: subtle branches of absolute knowledge. 5. The Chhandogya Upanishad states GAYATRI VA IDAM SARVA BHUTAM YADIDAM KINCHA implying that the entire universe is a reflection of Gayatri Power. 6. Gayatri represents the limitless Brahma, eternal, omnipresent, absolute existence of Thy Consciousness Force. 7. Gayatri represents the deity of time, knowledge, pure intellect, prudent foresight, creatuib, progress, welfare which is described in most of the Indian Scriptures. 8. Gayatri symbolize the Five Sheaths (Pancha Kosha): Body Cell, Life Cell, Mind Cell, Knowledge Cell, and Beautidious bliss Cell. of the consciousness force of five realms of its different manifestations and expansion. 9. LORD KRISHNA has identified himself as GAYATRI CHANDASAMHAM, in the Bhagawat Gita (Verse-35: Chapter-10, Analysis of Gayatri in Vibhuti Yoga); meaning to say amongest the poetic components I am the supreme Gayatri. 10. Gayatri is the origin of all the spiritual , conscious, unconscious, and super conscious faculties, cosmic energy and material existance. The cosmic power of Gayatri used for the creation and perceptible realization of this universe and named as SAVITRI. 11. The Science of Gayatri aims at the collective awakening of the righteous intellect, divine sentiments, altruist creativity and eminence. The Science of Savitri deals with the origin and proper utilization of matter and energy. 12. GAYATRI IS :(1) Essence of Knowledge supreme. (2) Fountainhead of wisdom and talents. (3) Eternal absolute. (4) Deliver of souls from the cycles of birth and death. (Gayam trayate eti Gayatri). (5) Giver of wholeness, revealer of Vedas. (6) The pure sublime soul. (7) Adorable spirit of the yogis. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Advaita and Western Neo-Advaita Alan Jacobs snip Allow Sri Bhagavan to have the last word on this question: There must be human effort to discard them [vasanas]how could God be expected to be favourable towards you without your striving for it' [Letters pg 151]. This posting hits it right on, IMHO. This reminded me of a recent post about Vedantic thinking; and I searched here to find it. #92260 posted by hanumanhoffman9 where his guru goes deep into this. Good stuff to counter Kali Yuga thinking. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: anon_astute_ff wrote: Who in the Holy Tradition would ever accept money for such? Most all Holy Traditions in India accept money for operational expenses. How do you think they build temples? I've seen donor's names carved into the rock base of some temples. It's a common practice in India to give money to your guru for instruction. They would go to hell. Maybe so, but you or I don't get to make up the rules. What Guru would ever put such a sacred bond to paper? Maybe not to paper, but it's all recited on a daily basis in the puja to Guru Dev anyway. The TM puja contains an admonition to bow down before your guru and pay homage. Bring fruit and flowers - these all cost money. Most Indian spiritual traditions have an oath - some are even secret oaths, such as those in the tantric tradition. It's SOP for devotees. If you have read the Bhagavata then you should know what it says about one who sells this secret knowledge. Yes, it says they go to hell. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Insider's Report
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: anon_astute_ff wrote: If it is not available to non-initiates how would mahesh know this information? By getting himself initiated into the tantric tradition and then studying with his master for thirteen years? Does his name contain Saraswati? Sure, it's Bal, the name given to Mahesh when he was initiated by Guru Dev. Not to mention his given name, Mahesh, which means Shiva Yogi. But Mahesh doesn't need any names at all really - a Maharishi dwarfs any epithets given to most others. But I suspect that the reason Mahesh isn't a Saraswati is that a person has to join the recluse order founded by Shankaracharya before the surname Saraswati is used. Mahesh didn't want to join the Order - Swamis suffer, Yogis enjoy. Would a real Maharishi goes into business? Would one say give me a million to sit in another room and watch me on TV? There is no Maharishi in TMO. Doesn't caste determine eligibility? How would an orthodox Shankaracharya like Brahmananda Saraswati waver from that? Ksatriya's go into business. Sure he may have gained realization from his devotion, but to assume he was privy to Sri Vidya knowledge doesn't add up. He wasn't brahmin and it has been suggested that mahesh's caste may not have even been that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 5 stars!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Translations for the remaining chapters exist, Why Can't the TM-org publish it.? Maharishi in the beginning of the Gita translation said that, each sloka in the Gita has to be interperted from the view-point of the 6 systems and 4 states of consciousness, which means there are 24 valid commentaries for each sloka of Gita. Maharishi himself has not written any commentary like that apart from that first sloka. Would it seem likely, given the parameters stated above, that NOBODY in that movement is qualifed? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: a Spiritual Master? was: A little bit about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend: Dear Rick snip but we must remember that Maharishi, as a spiritual Master, has a responsibility towards the spiritual enlightenement of his disciples. That may mean that M instantly dissolves any successful venture a disciple sets up if that disciple has any ego involved. What Maharishi? Talking only about first verse of Rg Ved for 30 years makes a maharishi? a spiritual master? Who has gained enlightenment from his 5-7 year program? What responsibility has ever been shown? Is asking for your money an example of this? What disciples? Kali yug To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Phase to say when someone is dying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend. Anyone know the answer to this?: I've heard that there is some phrase that helps someone passing on.that is to be whispered to them as they pass. Do you know of this? Having a notion that you know what is best to say to someone upon their passing is such arrogant thinking. (albeit innocent) Not surprising attitudes coming from a bastardized version of what Adi Shankara began long ago. Being told we knew everything in order to give some innocent fool enlightentment. It's to be expected in this kali age that this type of thinking would develop into believing we know what sounds should be the last that some poor soul should hear. Does anyone here really believe they know what is best for another's journey? Can you imagine the karmic ramifications of such an act? Who would want to incur such? Is it not best to chant names of the Lord for yourself, praying for their well being, leaving it up to God? Om Shanti Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raajas and Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi Channel: raajas seem to have learned lots of Sanskrit expressions; some of them are still slightly struggling with their pronunciation... WHo gets to decide how to pronounce a thousands of years dead language? Gypsies? What dead language? True Maharishi's know how to pronounce this universal language. Not just the first line of Rig Veda. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: ladies servicing ladies on Mother Divine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many men over the year, Purushniks, would take their leaves, ostensibly to visit family or take care of business (or whatever) only to stop off and have sex with their non-girlfriend girfriends. Occasionally you hear ripples of homosexual activities on Purusha. What about on MD. DO you think that any of these women serving other women on MD might be servicing their bosses in this fashion. Kinda like MD Bondage Parlors? Imagine the red face on the red haired Purushnic and MD'er I ran into in the Bahamas about ten years ago. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proper pronunciation of Buddha
Venture to say that anyone referring to him as Maharishi doesn't know what a Maharishi is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BOO-DA-HAH And you can determine the state of consciousness of the speaker by how he pronounces Buddha. If he just says BUHDAH -- as he would BUTTER but with Ds instead of Ts and dropping the R -- then he is of low consciousness. If he says it with the three syllables distinctly enunciated -- BOO-DA-HAH -- then he is, of course, very highly evolved. Throw in an East-Asian accept and say it very quickly then you're probably an Avatar. It's like in the TM Movement: if you say MA-HA-Ri-SHI you are lowly evolved and should just be cleaning the floors of your local center. But...if you pronounce it MA-HAR-SHI then you are, of course, a long-time TMer who is personally close to and beloved of MMY and you are highly evolved. There are exceptions of course. Notably, Charlie Lutes. Not only did Charlie pronouce it MA-HA-RI-SHI, the son-of-a-gun threw in the article, to boot! Charlie always referred to him as THE MA-HA-RI- SHI which gave him a good-ole-boy rep who could still go into any board room in America and slap the back of any stogie-totin' CEO and, in the same breath, tell them he was now going to go off and close his eyes and silently repeat a mantra. SSRS is in the lineage of Charlie. He calls MMY, the Maha rishi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] away
Been away for awhile, I have. Amazing posts there have been. Worthwhile use of time, most not. Different useful perspectives offered, some were. Peace to be enjoyed this holiday season, I hope you do. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Drugs Don't Discriminate. Get help for yourself or someone you know. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0I.OUB/ZbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Guru empowered mantras (was Re: TMO as a valid employer)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At one time I would have believed this but I have serious doubts at this point. It would certainly be to the advantage of a guru (or all gurus) to propagate this belief: this way you can always be beholden to the guru. Such a misunderstanding of guru, you have. something worthy of eternal gratitude, useless you think. Results of following a wolf in sheep's clothing, it is. Losing faith? Do not. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without the shakti of the guru, a mantra, while having some effects, will not produce them same effect as a mantra that has been charged with shakti. MMY even mentioned this once when asked if people who read one of the TM mantras from a newspaper and start to meditate with it would experience any benefits. He said they would, but it would be very slow. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Ever feel sad or cry for no reason at all? Depression. Narrated by Kate Hudson. http://us.click.yahoo.com/CQDrNC/ubOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Drugs Don't Discriminate. Get help for yourself or someone you know. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0I.OUB/ZbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most of the stuff being posted ad nauseum here on FFLife? every day, over and over, the same issues for years now. more than that, folks, for example, *sparaig (sorry to pick on you but...) has to comment on every single other comment that everyone has also commented on. Sometimes long lines of posts/e-mails are from spairaig and most of them say little to nothing. Brought this up some time ago, I did. Think they know something, they do. Fallout from TMO ego building, I think. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip OffWorld http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/79669 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/79672 So there. Infantile crap...A waste... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 Infantile crap...A waste... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least I took out all the extra blank lines before I responded with one line... As I said.Infantile one-up-manship. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi is Hanuman - Frank Lotz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Maharish cannot be Hanuman as my old friend, Russell (Rusty) Hoffman is now Hanuman Hoffman. They'll have to fight over it in court. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Formerly known as Rusty Hoffman, knew him then..I did. Puts forth good referencing posts here..Hanuman does. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lalitha Sahasranam posted on-line
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have some recordings of Lalith Sahasranam which I will post on www.puja.net so anyone who wants them can download for free. I think Interestingly enough the site where Agastya-rishi was given this knowledge by Varaha is the Varadaraja Temple in Kanchipuram southeast of Madras. Conflicting information here. You suggest Varaha (Vishnu's avatara as Boar) is the one who gave to Rishi Agastya. Another poster says Hayagriva (Horse avatara) presented it to Agastya. Where do you get your information? Upon diligent searching, no where is Varaha connected. Hayagriva is noted as the channel for this knowledge of Lalita Sahasranama. http://www.factbites.com/topics/Lalitha-Sahasranama http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Lalitha+sahasranama BTW: accuracy not in question.. but impossible for an inexperienced one to follow...the chanting mP3 you posted is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Anybody visited major Temples in India?
Greetings, Wondering if anybody has visited major temples or done yagyas in India and what experiences were? Jai Guru Deva Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays the level of so called enlightenment. Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel the need to tell others? What other exists in enlightenment? If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need? Are you speaking from personal experience? or from your understanding of what the behavior of enlightened people looks like? Who can know what the behavior of enlightened people looks like? TMO has perpetuated dangerous notions that have led to many thinking they know how it should look, both inner and outer. Digging out of 35 years of experience in that organization that has now become a dark hole of desperation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is one long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and over again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby we recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the limitations that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger than we ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' because the common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is that we *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds are built typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, grab what you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited beings. So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed limitations, and become free, we are said to then be 'enlightened'. But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been. In reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, around which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability. On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a milestone of growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from the achievements we have achieved all of our lives. Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective experience both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable qualities. It both encompasses and transforms the human experience. And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, and one day we will look a long way back and realize that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, is not so relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening has faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite relative, or the significant achievement of learning to walk as a young child. Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another enlightenment beckons... Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the Truth of it? Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to let others know what their thinking is on enlightenment. What is your thinking on it? What good is it to think on it? Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of enlightenment. Is that all you can do because you are 'brahmachari'-- *mental* masturbation? I don't do sex in any fashion. Mental or otherwise. Brahmachari definition is not limited to sex. Truth. TMO fallout.EGO. So you've had bad experiences with the TMO? No, I had good experiences at the time, but found out these experiences really didn't provide Truth nor enlightenment. No regrets. Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the proferring itself betrays. What are you talking about? Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays the level of so called enlightenment. Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel the need to tell others? What other exists in enlightenment? If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need? Just a few in this group actually contribute references within their paths of practice without the personal commentary of what they think they know. More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be if more of such contributions were posted. What is the mission of this group, as you see it? It's obvious that garrulity rules. Let me tell you what I think...EGO may not be the mission but it appears clearly. A place for worthless banter on subjects equally worthless from a group of supposedly spiritually advanced practitioners. Save for a few gems. Worthless as well, this post. To each his own... Indeed. What do I know. Nothing
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Peter wrote: --- brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays the level of so called enlightenment. Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel the need to tell others? What other exists in enlightenment? If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need? The incentive to act is the same in the enlightened as well as the unenlightened. Just that the unenlightened think that they do it. The enlightened know that nobody does anything. It just happens like the rising and setting of the sun. But this understanding is utterly useless for the dharma of waking state, that's for sure! The enlightened know that? Bumper sticker I'd like to see: Narcissus loves me. Beautiful Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Other Earth-like worlds?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It occurs to me that Earth, with its nearly endless diversity is a suitable planet for evolution for a wide range of human beings, and is probably a reasonable template for a number of similar planets in our universe, built to accomodate as many souls, Atmans, dewdrops of God, whatever, coursing through the evolutionary spiral that forms the dynamic of our Universe. Does anyone know of similar planets to ours, that can sustain just such a range of physical life and evolution as we have here? Earth- like analogs? I am not so interested in more evolved or less evolved planets, just ones like this. Reading Markandeya Purana, the Bhagavatam, Mahabharata you can find out all the different worlds that exist, have existed, and will exist. Where they exist, why they exist, what and whom exists in them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you and I even all that different? We are One but we are quite different. Explain please? Sorry, I just don't spend each day sitting at my computer looking at what is being said here and wondering what to say. I don't doubt your sincerity and the love you display in your posts. Peace. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Maharishi's Comments on Mahalakshmi
Beautiful comments, I think not. Contributing to the incestuous knowledge base m.y. is. Fullness of Emptiness, Emptiness of Fullness...beautiful? How do we get Her? Empty words without application. Maha Lakshmi acheived with such lack of Love? Doubt it. closer to the mark msg 77884 from that hanuman guy is Beautiful as Maha Lakshmi is. Happy Diwali --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- The following is reported to be Maharishi's beautiful comments on Mahalakshmi ... very timely for this auspicious occasion... HAPPY MAHALAKSHMI PUJA -- DIPAVALI - DIWALI ! = ... Maha Lakshmi ... the first syllable is Maha. Maha, great. And this great in the context of education is the characteristic of consciousness. This Maha is the goal of anyone who is not yet Maha. So, Maha goal is the meaning of the word Laksha... Laksha means the goal (Maha means unbounded, infinite, immortal, eternal, Brahm, Totality, whole). Maha is the goal of that which is not Maha. The goal of Maha is to swing in his greatness. It should be a living reality. That the unbounded does not remain only silent. But in that silence, there should be lively all possibilities. So, the Laksha, the goal, the goal of Maha is to have many in its unified wholeness. And the goal of that what is not Maha, the goal of small is to be big and the goal of big is to swing in its own expressions. Infinity wants to flow from one end of infinity to the other end of infinity and it's flowing, it divides itself, it quantifies itself, it qualifies itself. So it is the qualification which makes one look to the goal. Small wants to qualify itself into as big as possible. The big wants to qualify itself as the field of all possibilities from this end to that end. Maha is a goal and MI is a very, very significant word which is made of two values, MA and I. When we look to MA, naturally it is me, the first to the self, ME, even in English me, but in the Vedic terminology MI we understand as total value of all four Vedas. MA, what MA is, it's the HUM, Hummm. Agnim-m-m. Rig, Yajur, Sama, Atharva. Then Atharva is a Hum. Hum of all the four Vedas... Agni, it s a collapse of all the progression of all the Vedas into a Hum. Hum means the total values of all sounds; all sounds are inherent in Hum. And in that Hum which is focused on a point, that reality of the point is then transformed into dynamism, which is represented by I. So, Maha Lakshmi this is the total Veda, concentrated into the Hum and made dynamism. Here is concentration at a point, which then in its nature is all dynamism. So, in the word Maha Lakshmi we have that enormous, unbounded, total, infinite, eternal immortality expressed in all the Vedas and found located in a point. And then expanding a point in infinity, and dynamism again into Maha. So, here is the total expression of the Veda, total expression of pure knowledge. Along with its infinite organising power in one point concentrating and expanding. This point value, this is Maha Lakshmi... So, the element of Maha Lakshmi is a composite of two values of opposite directions. Focal point and expanding in its nature, this is called Anyonyabhava. It has two kinds of directions, coming in, expanding and going out... So, the Laksha, the goal of expanding value is to concentrate. The goal of concentrated value is to expand. And here is the seed of Maha. This is Maha Lakshmi, at the point, which is both, expansion and contraction, infinite potential of the expansion element we could see along with infinite expansion of contraction element. That means no matter where the situation is, there is all possibility, no matter at what level we are considering or at any level of contraction or at any level of expansion, here or here, at any level is Maha Lakshmi. There is a field of all possibilities and the field of all possibilities in each cell is a concentrated point of silence within the quality of infinite dynamism. Silence and dynamism, that means completely fulfilled of wakefulness. Completely fulfilled because it is not devoid of anything. Infinite silence concentrated, infinite dynamism concentrated and therefore it is eternal state of fulfilment. It is a fulfilment of eternal value. Fulfilment of immortal value because there is a field of all possibilities and in this field of all possibilities is the element of fulfilment, infinite bliss. Infinite bliss is a quality of fulfilment and fulfilment the quality of lack of lack. Devoid of nothingness. It is all fullness, completely fulfilled, self-sufficient infinity, eternity, capable of flowing in terms of waves, modified, qualified and still remaining unqualified at all time. Unqualified qualified fulfilment, that means it
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment
Objectively? I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi. I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled manner, chances are this person is CC or above. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Horse crap. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How so? Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi. Where in Veda are these mentioned? What is above or below in the state of Turiya? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is one long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and over again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby we recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the limitations that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger than we ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' because the common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is that we *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds are built typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, grab what you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited beings. So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed limitations, and become free, we are said to then be 'enlightened'. But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been. In reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, around which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability. On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a milestone of growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from the achievements we have achieved all of our lives. Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective experience both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable qualities. It both encompasses and transforms the human experience. And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, and one day we will look a long way back and realize that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, is not so relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening has faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite relative, or the significant achievement of learning to walk as a young child. Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another enlightenment beckons... Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the Truth of it? Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to let others know what their thinking is on enlightenment. What is your thinking on it? What good is it to think on it? Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of enlightenment. Is that all you can do because you are 'brahmachari'-- *mental* masturbation? I don't do sex in any fashion. Mental or otherwise. Brahmachari definition is not limited to sex. Truth. TMO fallout.EGO. So you've had bad experiences with the TMO? No, I had good experiences at the time, but found out these experiences really didn't provide Truth nor enlightenment. No regrets. Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the proferring itself betrays. What are you talking about? Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays the level of so called enlightenment. Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel the need to tell others? What other exists in enlightenment? If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need? Just a few in this group actually contribute references within their paths of practice without the personal commentary of what they think they know. More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be if more of such contributions were posted. What is the mission of this group, as you see it? It's obvious that garrulity rules. Let me tell you what I think...EGO may not be the mission but it appears clearly. A place for worthless banter on subjects equally worthless from a group of supposedly spiritually advanced practitioners. Save for a few gems. Worthless as well, this post. To each his own... Indeed. What do I know. Nothing personal... Peace. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web
[FairfieldLife] Re: Any decent books on Vedic knowledge in TMO
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering lately if any decent books have been written and published on Vedic knowledge lately. snip It just seems to me I can't find many books at any bookstore by anyone associated with the TMO that are really informative and deep that concern the Vedas. The only thing available is the BG, Science of Being/AOL, and a few of those invincible defense, ideal education books, etc... Attempts failed. What is ideal about the state of MUM and the TMO? Have any graduates of MIU/MUM written any really good books concerning Vedic Knowledge lately that anyone here knows of? snip Or perhaps i'm just not noticing how advanced the Vedic Knowledge is because i'm not able to attend Bevan and John's lectures anymore??? Is this the case, or do others see the same problem? Perhaps it's not a problem, since nobody truly knows from their Ideal education on a subject that has already stood the test of time. Thankful we should be, that nobody else is trying to perpetuate a novel idea on the most ancient subject of Veda. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actions of enlightened beings, such speculation by the ignorant. fly off the handle at the most (seemingly) minimal transgression and curse others, the greatest rishis of ancient lore would. wailing at his loss of Sita, Rama would be seen He killed. As did Krishna. Actions of an enlightened one, Would someone looking from a distance think these such? fleecing his flocks.. mmy does clearly seeing from the Sahasranama chakra down through the sushumna to the Muladhara, is the one who can determine. Puppets we are... wanting to know. While there is some truth in what you say, do you really think that a guy who talks like Yoda is in any position to rag on puppets? Silly it is. :-) Win...you do. No...yo dew, what can a puppet do? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know and have read about several people who suffered traumatic accidents that appear to have kicked them into a more enlightened state. Some people believe walk-ins exchange places at those times and that's the reason why the individual feels so different. Sounded differently, acted differently...after near death in London didn't MMY? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I was enlightened, so there. Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached enlightenment? It's a lot like someone informing you of a past life you don't remember; or getting the gas bill: Okeedoke, I'll take your word for it lol Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? Objectively? I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi. I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled manner, chances are this person is CC or above. Horse crap. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment
snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paula Youmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is one long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and over again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby we recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the limitations that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger than we ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' because the common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is that we *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds are built typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, grab what you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited beings. So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed limitations, and become free, we are said to then be 'enlightened'. But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been. In reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, around which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability. On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a milestone of growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from the achievements we have achieved all of our lives. Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective experience both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable qualities. It both encompasses and transforms the human experience. And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, and one day we will look a long way back and realize that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, is not so relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening has faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite relative, or the significant achievement of learning to walk as a young child. Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another enlightenment beckons... Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the Truth of it? Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to let others know what their thinking is on enlightenment. Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of enlightenment. TMO fallout.EGO. Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the proferring itself betrays. Just a few in this group actually contribute references within their paths of practice without the personal commentary of what they think they know. More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be if more of such contributions were posted. Worthless as well, this post. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOTS OF Premature deaths by my calculations and of longtime dedicated TMO participants This notion of premature and untimely death in a group so filled with the enlightened. When someone's time is up is the only time death comes, so how is that untimely? karma Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Actions of Enlightened...Speculation at best
Actions of enlightened beings, such speculation by the ignorant. fly off the handle at the most (seemingly) minimal transgression and curse others, the greatest rishis of ancient lore would. wailing at his loss of Sita, Rama would be seen He killed. As did Krishna. Actions of an enlightened one, Would someone looking from a distance think these such? fleecing his flocks.. mmy does clearly seeing from the Sahasranama chakra down through the sushumna to the Muladhara, is the one who can determine. Puppets we are... wanting to know. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 1,000 Members
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you didnĀ¹t notice, our membership now stands at 1,000. Although a few of us prefer to sit when interfacing with the group. snip All of the above. Hands on the board, standing or sitting. so much time spent composing smart replies Serious mental masturbation..it is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus
These Maharishi Peace Palaces are a profound gift from Maharishi The Maharishi Peace Palaces will be financed through donations and the sale of interest-bearing World Peace Bonds. How is it a gift when financed by those who are supposedly the recipients? Is this the profundity of it? Kali Yuga shining brightly, huh? Stupid ignorant people. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Names/Purification(s) of Forces of Nature...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have found these to be helpful, in my practice. snip So, that the Light of God shines; More brightly on Earth. Jai Guru Devam Namah OM Copyright2005 Robert Gimbel You can copyright these mantras? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/